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Liz Truss Is Britain's Next Prime Minister. Should Libertarians Be Happy?

Only time will tell if Truss reverses the big spending style of her predecessor.

Robert Jackman | 9.5.2022 9:26 AM

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After a bruising six-week contest, the result is in: Liz Truss will be Great Britain's new prime minister. An ambitious Conservative politician who served as Boris Johnson's foreign secretary throughout the Ukraine crisis, Truss will officially take office on Tuesday. But will her arrival in Downing Street bring an end to the big-state, big-spending style of her predecessor?

There are certainly reasons to be optimistic. Within the Westminster village, Truss has long been regarded as a torchbearer for liberty—a reputation that stretches back to her days working at various small-state think tanks. Since entering Parliament in 2010, she has been a member of the Free Enterprise Group—an informal caucus of Tory members of Parliament (M.P.s) looking to push the party in a more free market direction.

While she served in the David Cameron and Theresa May governments, it was her appointment to Boris Johnson's cabinet—in summer 2019—that made her a household name. As trade secretary, Truss was responsible for delivering on the good bit of Brexit—jetting around the world to sign tariff-busting trade deals. She was good at it too, quickly securing ambitious agreements with Australia and Japan.

Her internationally-focused brief also provided a convenient pass during the dark years of COVID-19 lockdowns. While her ministerial colleagues led finger-wagging TV broadcasts announcing authoritarian new rules, Truss chose to prioritize Zoom negotiations with her counterparts in the U.S. and India. Long seen as a savvy social media user, her Twitter timeline was noticeably light on the "stay at home" propaganda being churned out by Downing Street.

After Johnson's downfall came Truss' leadership campaign—with its determined focus on tax cuts. She immediately pledged to reverse the tax hikes pushed through by Boris Johnson's administration, including the sharp increase in payroll taxes. When her opponent, Rishi Sunak, fretted about increasing the fiscal gap and the impact on inflation, Truss hit back, insisting that tax cuts were necessary to reverse Britain's economic slump.

But will Liz Truss' premiership put Britain back on track to a smaller state? Some things aren't that simple. While Boris Johnson certainly embraced big government, he was also responding to a fundamental shift in British political gravity—one which makes small-state conservatism a difficult sell.

Like other Western countries, Britain possesses a rapidly aging population. It's a ticking time bomb that has already seen state spending on health care and pensions surge to unprecedented levels, making tax cuts more difficult. As those pampered retirees tend to vote Conservative, their influence over its policies is enormous. It's why pensioners are just about the only people in Britain getting a pay raise in line with inflation.

Throughout her think tank days, Truss took aim at this growing culture of affluent entitlement. One of her most influential reports dared to call for a rethink of the "winter fuel payment," an unconditional handout of between £250 and £600 ($288 and $691) made to every single retiree in Britain (one in four of whom is now a millionaire). Truss' assessment was spot on: Why should taxpayers subsidize the fuel bills of rich households?

Many of Truss' best ideas will encounter similar resistance. To her credit, Truss has long been an advocate of relaxing Britain's punitive planning laws, which would make it easier to build much-needed homes and energy infrastructure. But such ideas are toxic with backbench Conservatives, whose voters—high on inflated house prices—will punish them for greenlighting the smallest development. When Michael Gove, a Conservative minister with a knack for pursuing radical reforms, tried to take them on, he ended up flushing his plan down the toilet (literally).

It doesn't help that the pandemic has raised the expectations of voters, who now expect the government to step in at the first sign of trouble. Witness the growing demands for the state to pick up the tab for Britain's rapidly escalating energy bills. But what do the Conservatives expect after they spent £69 billion ($80 billion) on paying workers to stay at home? The Treasury has already bunged everyone in Britain more than £550 ($633) to pay their bills. Now half of Tory voters want full state ownership of the energy industry.

To be fair, Truss isn't afraid to stand up for her principles. As trade secretary, she fought nobly against the lobbying of farmers who wanted to maintain strict tariffs on Australian food imports. But her more protectionist colleagues won the battle—persuading Boris Johnson to hand farming unions an effective veto over any future trade deals. Next time, of course, it will be Truss who makes the final decision.

With a looming recession and an election due before the end of 2024, our new prime minister is going to have to move fast. Let's just hope that it's in the right direction.

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Robert Jackman is a London-based writer and critic with the Spectator.

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  1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    We Koch / Reason libertarians demand all developed countries (except Israel, of course) open their borders. Her term will be a success if and only if she accomplishes this.

    #ImmigrationAboveAll

    1. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

      She does not aid the rapists and girl-bulliers who seek to force women into Hitler/Teddy Roosevelt anti-race-suicide reproduction. The Maeces caucus is doubtless horrified.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

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      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

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      3. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

        What language were you shooting for?

      4. 5.56   3 years ago

        I feel your pain, loser.

  2. Syd Henderson   3 years ago

    She seems a lot more competent than Boris, but if she intends to cut the size of government, she has her work cut out for her.

  3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Liz Truss is a WEF grad, but so was the guy running against her for PM, Rishi Sunak, and so was Boris Johnson...

    https://www.weforum.org/people/liz-truss

    Attending a year at the Davos compound is now as necessary for aspiring British politicians as Eton, Oxford and Cambridge used to be.

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      As for her libertarian bonafides:

      Liz Truss Is Thinking About Freezing Energy Bills, According To Reports

      and also,

      Liz Truss’s economic plan is eerily reminiscent of the 1970s

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        But don't worry, Liz Truss made a promise that the UK won't go fully cashless society for now.

        "“We should make sure people are able to use cash where they don’t have alternatives,” Truss said at leadership hustings in Belfast on Wednesday, describing having the ability to do so as “important”.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          For more insights, here's a video on the World Economic Forum website featuring Liz:
          https://www.weforum.org/events/the-davos-agenda-2021/sessions/fixing-the-international-trade-system-western-hemisphere

          She talks about how to fix the International Trade System. Worth a watch.

          1. the machine stops   3 years ago

            Was this the "British Apples" speech?

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago

            She is a terrible candidate who hides behind New Speak. Which apparently Reason is too dumb to notice.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      Yeah, conservative has been defined down to mean "moderately Marxist"

      Boris supported net zero ffs

    3. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      "Attending a year at the Davos compound"

      Is it just me, or does this seem more and more like a movie where people go away to the bad guys evil compound, get some type of chip inserted into their brain, recover, then turn into puppets for their evil mastermind bad guy?

      1. CE   3 years ago

        Chips in brains?
        Why bother when you can just send back an android duplicate?
        Didn't anyone watch Futureworld?

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          No but I watched Altered Carbon…

  4. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

    to every single retiree in Britain (one in four of whom is now a millionaire).

    This kind of quote is insidious and disingenuous with inflation pushing up housing values. Most people don't think of a home's value as contributing to what makes someone a millionaire. The quote is a typical lazy slur designed to push emotional buttons.

    Yes, redistribution is bad. That should be your argument, not that retirees are millionaires.

    1. the machine stops   3 years ago

      I agree.

      Also, the fact that she didn't post on social media very much during COVID restrictions doesn't say anything about her libertarian proclivities. i feel like the author's entire argument basically amounts to a crock of nothing.

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      "one in four of whom is now a millionaire"

      Shit, you can barely retire on a million dollars or pounds. Maybe if you also have a good pension and/or other significant assets. These WEF idiots really are going to push us all into the state of having nothing and depending entirely on government. What could possibly go wrong?

    3. CE   3 years ago

      It's good to remind people that the poor, starving elderly who want all the handouts and would be eating catfood if freeze their annual increases are actually the wealthiest segment of society.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        I keep hearing this about boomers like me. Turns out we spent decades paying off a house that somebody else might think is worth a lot of money. I'm trying to figure out how I can eat my house.

        1. DRM   3 years ago

          I'm trying to figure out how I can eat my house.

          Oh, come on. Reverse mortgages were designed specifically for that.

  5. the machine stops   3 years ago

    As a Yank, I admittedly don't know entirely alot about Lizz Truss. So i cant comment to alot of this article. But I will say this :

    –One could make the argument that the "tarriff-busting" trade deals she made were done on the instruction of her boss, the big-spending Boris Johnson. I obviously could not know if this is true or not, but i do question how much decision autonomy she actually had in an appointed role.

    – I have watched a clip of her "British apples" speech and, oddly enough, i found myself agreeing a bit with a Guardian opinion piece, albeit for different reasons (which was a hit piece, describing her as a moron). In the speech, she laments about British children not knowing the taste of a real British apple and essentially espouses protectionism (especially concerning agriculture and foodstuffs).

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      British food is delicious! That's why all of their top chefs train in france

      1. NoVaNick   3 years ago

        Fish and chips are awesome, especially with vinegar on the chips. The rest, not so much.

  6. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

    I checked, and where individual rights are concerned Liz is more of an originalist 1972 libertarian than the Klan, Nazis, Comstockists, race-suicide hotliners and televangelized Trilbys that masquerade as "conservatives" in These Colonial States.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Cite?

      Should be easy since you just “checked”.

      1. the machine stops   3 years ago

        Hahahaha

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          What're you some kinda Comstockist?

      2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        That was good. My black sack cloth is tipped

    2. the machine stops   3 years ago

      Okay, sure, fair enough, but you're obfsucating a bit here. Nobody here is trying to compare fringe or even MAGA "conservatism" with British mainstream "conservative".

      The question posed by the author is "Will Lizz Truss make libertarians happy?". The article then goes on to argue (rather ineffectively) that Truss has libertarian proclivities, ergo answering the rhetorical question at hand.

      The answer to that question is what's being debated. Nobody here is disparaging Ms. Truss. If the answer was "Will Truss make mainstream british conservatives happy?" then it's suddenly a different debate, isnt it? We're merely debating whether or not Truss is a libertarian in any meaningful sense of the word, which is a totally separate debate from comparing 2 different countries' conservative movements or even whether or not American conservatives have sufficient libertarian overlap...

      Sssooo this begs the question : What's your point?

      1. the machine stops   3 years ago

        Obfuscating*** ^.^

    3. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      Are you a more or less coherent version of sqrl?

    4. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

      We need a Libertariantranslator translator.

  7. Anastasia Beaverhausen   3 years ago

    She's anything but a libertarian. She started in politics as a Lib Dem, and was a Remainer in the EU referendum. (Heck, Boris by inclination was a Remainer at heart but at least he had the momentary good sense to read the tea leaves and support Brexit.)

    1. John C. Randolph   3 years ago

      Remainer

      So... A 4th Reich Quisling?

      -jcr

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Yeah BoJo's moment has long past. Isn't he the guy that called an emergency meeting with Zelensky when their was a peace deal on the table in April? And he demanded war? Isn't he the guy that went all out on the Covid scam? Isn't he the guy that is driving half of the UK population into poverty while telling them to "buy a new kettle"? don't know much about this woman but she can't possibly worse than Johnson.

      1. Syd Henderson   3 years ago

        And if she's bad, she won't be in office more than a couple of years.

      2. Hugo S. Cunningham   3 years ago

        Could you give a reference for that "peace deal on the table in April"? I realize a URL will be blocked, but how about an exact Google search that will take me there, with a couple of words to pinpoint the particular article in Google's selection. My impression is that the peace Putin has offered is surrender of half of Ukraine, including the entire Black Sea coast, with the option of destabilizing and finishing off the rest later.

      3. Roberta   3 years ago

        And when he campaigned and then began his party program in office, it was so laissez faire — then he caught CoVID-19 and reversed course, like it affected his brain!

  8. NOYB2   3 years ago

    Liz Truss Is Britain's Next Prime Minister. Should American Libertarians Be Happy Give a F*ck?

    There, FTFY. And the answer is: No.

    1. the machine stops   3 years ago

      Hahaha lol well i mean to a certain extent, yes. Being an American libertarian doesnt mean we can't debate this question and it certainly doesn't mean that we shouldn't care about geopolitical stuff, especially elections and whatnot

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        And like WW3 and shit.

    2. the machine stops   3 years ago

      Besides, aren't you the least bit interested in how badly the popular understanding of libertarianism is skewed? It's apparently not just an American problem.

      1. the machine stops   3 years ago

        But there's nothing about being an American libertarian that means you shouldn't be interested in geopolitics, political science, the interests of our allies (ie, who their leader will be, bc their economy directly affects our economy via trade)... but, at any rate, it's not like i sit up at night wondering if Truss or Sunak is more libertarian than Johnson. I am just interested in these things and i was answering the question posed by the article shared by my favorite media outlet.

        So... like... i unno, why SHOULDN'T i care about geopolitics, the elections in foreign nations, answer rhetorical questions, be curious in political science, or care about how the pop understanding of libertarianism is so skewed? Why shouldnt i?

        1. NOYB2   3 years ago

          TFA isn't asking "what does Liz's election mean for US libertarians", it asks the question of "how libertarian is Liz" and implies that the more libertarian she is the more happy US libertarians should be.

          The fact is that Britain is not a libertarian society, not even close. And whether the British PM is more or less libertarian leaning is largely irrelevant for US libertarians.

          As far as international relations and "our allies" go, the libertarian position is that we should get out of defense alliances and special trading arrangements.

          So, it's not that you shouldn't take an interest in international affairs, it's that analyzing international affairs in terms of how marginally more or less libertarian some foreign politician is is an idiotic thing to do.

          1. Roberta   3 years ago

            Oh, it matters all right. The more libertarian she is and the better she does, the more popular our ideas will be. OTOH, the more libertarian she is and the worse she does, the less popular our ideas will be. Consequences beget ideas. Propaganda by deed.

    3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      Since he had a Kenyan father who was a citizen of Great Britain at his birth I think Obama should be England's next Queen.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        Gonna need to see a birth certificate.

  9. Eeyore   3 years ago

    No.

    1. the machine stops   3 years ago

      ^^ riddle me that, batman

  10. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

    Truss will support Great Britain.

    1. John C. Randolph   3 years ago

      Maybe. She's obviously no Maggie Thatcher.

      -jcr

      1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

        Truss (n): A truss is an assembly of members such as beams, connected by nodes, that creates a rigid structure.

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Also a therapeutic item worn around the waist for herneas.

          Might, but she's still not Libertarian enough.

          Perhaps some night school lectures on "Capitalist Acts Between Consenting Adults" might get her to see see light. 🙂

          1. Utkonos   3 years ago

            And on that note I think we’ve rather neatly tied up the meaning of the word truss.
            I just hope this isn’t like with the last female PM. I was rather disMayed by that outcome.

        2. Dillinger   3 years ago

          many of us understood engineer humour.

  11. Bramblyspam   3 years ago

    Antiwar.com has her pegged as a hardline foreign policy hawk. That’s a big “no thanks” for me.

    Oh well, we can always hope she’s tolerably decent in other respects.

  12. JesseAz   3 years ago

    she is a socialist in sheepa clothing.

    Liz Truss
    @trussliz

    United Kingdom government official
    Great discussion at
    @wef
    on fixing the international trade system.
    .
    As an independent trading nation, Global Britain will work with like-minded democracies to champion free and fair trade.
    .
    It's time we had rules fit for the 21st century. ???????? ????

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Nobody who participates in WEF believes in liberty. They just push new speak.

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 years ago

      Yes, in true Reasonista fashion, we would be better off with a Labour PM

  13. CE   3 years ago

    (Checks Magic 8 Ball)

    "Signs point to No".

  14. SRG   3 years ago

    I doubt there is a single politician in Britain who would make American dogmatic libertarians happy. No doubt the latter could always find British politicians who are less bad from a libertarian perspective than the general mass of MPs and peers, but that is hardly the same thing.

    1. NOYB2   3 years ago

      I doubt there is a single politician in Britain who would make American dogmatic libertarians happy.

      Fortunately, the internal politics of Great Britain are really of no concern to dogmatic US libertarians, because dogmatic US libertarians really don't concern themselves with the affairs of other peoples in other countries.

      Of course, progressives masquerading as libertarians want the entire world to be run according to their preferred ideology.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        Yeah because the internal politics of other counties that our deep state is knee deep in are of no consequence to American libertarians. If Europe like got blown off the map we'd still be cool.

        1. SRG   3 years ago

          If I have no interest in an article, I don't comment on it.

          1. NOYB2   3 years ago

            I don't have an interest in Liz Truss.

            I do have an interest in US libertarianism. One of its faults is that it concerns itself too much with people like Liz Truss.

        2. NOYB2   3 years ago

          (1) What does "Europe got blown off the map" even mean?

          (2) From the point of view of American libertarians, is it preferable for Great Britain to have a libertarian government? A conservative government? A socialist government? Why?

          (3) Realistically, what are you going to do about it?

          1. Roberta   3 years ago

            (1) Q bomb, per Wibberly.

            (2) Of course it's preferable for anywhere to have a libertarian government. We want people to have liberty.

            Not only that, but if they have a libertarian government and it does well, then that's a good example for the rest of the world, and libertarian ideas become more popular.

            Why is this a hard question?

            (3) Realistically, the only things you can do anything about are in your own life, and many of those you can't do anything about either.

      2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        +2

  15. eyeroller   3 years ago

    Now half of Tory voters want full state ownership of the energy industry.

    Can Liz deliver?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Now half of Tory voters want full state ownership of the energy industry.
      That should solve the problem. If there's any energy left.

  16. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Reason Contributor, Brendan O'Neill on Truss:

    And in Truss we seem to have a leader who is more technocratic than visionary, more given to following the political consensus than to shaking things up. As the Telegraph put it, Truss has been a ‘dutiful servant’. Despite being something of a Tory party outsider – considered by many insiders to be ‘a bit odd’ – Truss has always ‘diligently backed the consensus within the party’. She seems overly media-oriented, too. She’s clearly had her gauche edges smoothed by media training and she devotes a lot of energy to ‘savvy social-media use’. A politician who prefers consensual calm to bold action, and who is more concerned with virtual likes than real-world impact, is not what crisis-ridden Britain needs.

    1. Roberta   3 years ago

      If the consensus within the party is relatively good, going along with it is relatively good. Whether it's calm or bold action is irrelevant in determining whether it's good action.

  17. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

    Current events in Europe: Russia shuts down Nordstream, energy prices rise at 20 percent per day, Nato countries warning of massive civil unrest as millions will be without heat and food this winter. 70k people in Czechoslovakia marching in the streets demanding that their government cease pissing away their livelihoods on Biden's war in Ukraine. Farmers in the Netherlands in revolt over insane green policies. Italy, Spain, Greece, Ireland, UK. all are on the verge of political collapse. If you think the USA is somehow immune from all of this you are full of shit. But Reason some how hasn't noticed any of this. The new UK PM is the story of the day. Good or bad, libertarian or not, this woman is circling the drain. Europe dragged us into 2 world wars. Reason's boy, Biden, may very well drag us into another one by fucking around there. I for one miss that whole America First MAGA thing we had going on for that brief moment.

  18. MatthewSlyfield   3 years ago

    As an American libertarian I'm struggling to come up with a reason why I should care one way or another who the UK PM is.

    1. SRG   3 years ago

      There are plenty of people in Britain who aren't libertarian who would be inclined to agree with you, of course.

  19. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

    Reason Rope a Dope.

    https://nypost.com/2022/09/04/fbi-agent-timothy-thibault-hid-intel-from-whistleblower-on-hunter-the-big-guy-joe-biden/

    Bobulinski and his lawyer were given Thibault’s cellphone number and told that he would be their “point man” at the FBI thereafter.
    That night, Bobulinski’s lawyer phoned Thibault, who said he would soon advise on next steps and whether Bobulinski should do a follow-up interview.
    But neither Bobulinski nor his lawyer was contacted again. Nor was Bobulinski brought before a Delaware grand jury investigating Hunter.
    Dawson moved to the field office in Little Rock, Ark., last July.
    Thibault retired from the FBI last week, amid an investigation by the Office of Special Counsel into his anti-Trump social media posts, and after Republican senators made public allegations that he buried Hunter Biden material that would have damaged Joe’s candidacy.

  20. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    After initially refusing due to setting a 'bad precedent' for free speech, Cloudflare succumbs to online threats and drops KIWI Farms.

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Citing an “immediate threat to human life,” Cloudflare has dropped the notorious stalking and harassment site Kiwi Farms from its internet security services following an online campaign started by transgender Twitch streamer Clara Sorrenti to pressure it to do so.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      “This is an extraordinary decision for us to make and given Cloudflare’s role as an Internet infrastructure provider, a dangerous one that we are not comfortable with,” CEO Matthew Prince wrote in a blog post Saturday in an about-face after earlier insisting that the company would not block the site. “However, the rhetoric on the Kiwifarms site and specific, targeted threats have escalated over the last 48 hours to the point that we believe there is an unprecedented emergency and immediate threat to human life unlike what we have previously seen from Kiwifarms or any other customer before.”

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      They gang up on victims and pool their personal details such as addresses and phone numbers in a practice called “doxxing,” spreading vile rumors and targeting workplaces, friends, families and homes. Another favorite tactic has been “swatting” — making false emergency calls to provoke an armed police response at a target’s home. Some people subjected to the group’s abuse have died by suicide.

      The AP is LITERALLY describing Twitter.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        The decision to drop Kiwi Farms Saturday was an about-face for Cloudflare and Prince, who earlier in the week put out a 2,600-word blog post — without mentioning the site by name — doubling down on the decision to protect it and comparing Cloudflare to a phone company that “doesn’t terminate your line if you say awful, racist, bigoted things.”

        But Sorrenti and other targets of the site say it was far worse than that, as trolls on the site relentlessly pursued their victims offline — often for years on end.

        “They are trying to get people to lose their jobs. They’re trying to get people to lose their housing, to be starving and homeless,” Liz Fong-Jones, a former Google engineer and cloud computing expert who is transgender, told the AP last week. “And then they go after people’s families and then they tell people that the only way out is to kill themselves.”

        Literally... describing Twitter.

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      Also, not mentioned is google de-ranking kiwi farms for searches.

      If I search google for KIWI farms, my first hits are a wiki article ABOUT kiwifarms, then a host of press articles describing it as a "hate site".

      DuckDuckgo brings up Kiwifarms.net as the first hit.

      However, when you click on the site:

      Blocked
      What happened?
      Due to an imminent and emergency threat to human life, the content of this site is blocked from being accessed through Cloudflare’s infrastructure. For more details, please see: https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/

      Wonder if Reason will cover this if they haven't gone full ACLU.

    4. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      Slate being slate:

      The Voldemort of Anti-Trans Websites Got Booted From the Web, and Somehow That’s Controversial
      Cloudflare’s ban of Kiwi Farms is a win for the forum’s victims, and a win for speech.

    5. mad.casual   3 years ago

      So, if I think an equal number of advocates on both sides should be lined up and shot, does that make me a bigot?

      The article is a real bizarre 'Tower of Babel' sort of phenomenon. I understand all the words, but the corrosion of English, pseudo-credentialism, and oblique reference to facts makes it almost meaningless to interpret. It's almost like a 'They Live!' sort of situation where, if you're a normie just reading the page it looks like an article but if you don the special sunglasses, it just reads 'Emote!'. Not being involved, I can only ask 'Emote about what?' someone *else* getting doxxed and swatted on the internet?

      I have no idea who Clara Sorrenti is. A quick Googling, despite being doxxed, turns up very little information prior to becoming a Twitch streamer and is actually rather interesting as (e.g.) Ninja's birth name, DOB, HS graduation, known associates, etc., etc. is all listed. Same or similar for Pokimane and a half-dozen other Twitch streamers. This is doubly quizzical as Wikipedia indicates that they ran for office a couple of times and was not entirely unknown to the police prior. It seems no arrests were made and in no way rules out even the possibility that her actual attacker was Jussie Smollett.

      It's like a half-baked memory hole sitting there on the internet which, according to the narrative, shouldn't even exist.

  21. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    Trying and failing at figuring out why I should care.

  22. General   3 years ago

    Divorce is one of the main subjects of family law. Divorce cases are heard in family courts for whatever reason. for detail it https://aslanduran.com/calisma-alanlarimiz/ankara-bosanma-avukati-aile-ve-bosanma-davalari/

  23. Dillinger   3 years ago

    zoom. whitening.

  24. GraniteLiberty303   3 years ago

    Should libertarians be happy? Probably not. I think this is a better question for "UK Libertarians" than for Americans. Of course, it would be a good thing if there was an actual "libertarian" led government across the pond. Particularly if said Prime Minister and her governing majority were popular and successful in shrinking government, charted a prudent and restrained foreign policy, protected and championed individual liberties, etc. Such a figure could be a shining example for libertarians here. But that's not gonna happen at least not right now.

    Regarding Truss herself, my only concern would be if she were to pull us into, or deeper into, unnecessary foreign policy conflicts. But given the fact that our leaders have a knack for doing that a lot on their own, I probably won't be looking to blame her too much, unless of course the British do something truly egregious.

  25. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

    Rich libertarians will probably be ecstatic. She'll cut taxes for them and fuck everyone else in the process. The old "fuck you, got mine" policy in action.

  26. Naime Bond   3 years ago

    '....Only time will tell if Truss reverses the big spending style of her predecessor. ...' Times up. Zero evidence suggests she will do that. So answer is a resounding no.

  27. Rufus The Monocled   3 years ago

    Dunno much about her.

    What I do know is she witnessed an interview collapse due to a vaccine injury - yes, it was a vaccine injury. No one collapses for no reason.

    She supports the ridiculously corrupted proxy-war in Ukraine that sees the West, among other sleazy things, arming literal Nazis. Freedom and democracy my ass.

    And, like all conservatives in the West, supported if not was silent during the peak of the Covid hysteria that saw us undertake unprecedented unethical and pseudoscientific futile measures that eradicated civil liberties. The conservatives in Canada and Australia did the same damn thing.

    All cowards. Everyone needs keep their receipts. Shifting and doing 180s like that cunt Wen ain't gonna save them.

    Heads MUST roll for what they've done.

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