Mom Who Let Her 7-Year-Old Play at the Park Will Not Be Added to Arizona's Unfit Parent Registry
A Tucson mother who briefly left two kids alone while she ran an errand won a temporary reprieve in court.

Last week, a Maricopa County Superior Court judge temporarily blocked the state of Arizona from adding a Tucson mother to the state's list of unfit parents.
Sarra, whose full name is withheld to protect her privacy, was arrested for alleged child endangerment in 2020 after allowing her 7-year-old son and his 5-year-old friend to play at the park while she ran an errand. Reason's Robby Soave covered her story here.
Sarra's case was dropped after she pled guilty and agreed to take parenting classes, but the state's Department of Child Safety (DCS) moved forward with a separate action: adding Sarra's name to the Central Registry, a government-maintained blacklist of Arizonans who are prohibited from working with children.
"I do not believe that I neglected him," said Sarra, when she testified. "No, I believe that playing in the park is something that was appropriate to his development level, to who he is right now."
At Sarra's hearing, the department argued that any number of horrible things could have happened to her son during the 30 minutes she was at the grocery store purchasing a Thanksgiving turkey: He could have been attacked by homeless people, witnessed drug abuse, sprained an ankle, broken an arm, or even stepped on glass or needles. Or he could have been abducted by a daytime kidnapper undeterred by all the dog walkers, park workers, and people attending a nearby tai chi class being taught by an acquaintance of Sarra. Sarra, on the other hand, argued that those things weren't likely to happen and didn't.
She lost. But then the Goldwater Institute and the Pacific Legal Foundation got involved, and in a rare bit of good news, a judge agreed to stop the department from adding Sarra's name to the Central Registry.
At Sarra's hearing, I testified as an expert witness, and I can tell you that Sarra's only crime was being rational.
The facts are not in dispute: Someone saw Sarra's son and his friend playing in the park and called the cops. In return for pleading guilty to contributing to the delinquency of a minor and taking a life skills course, the criminal charges were dropped. But DCS was not as easily appeased.
The fact that there hadn't been a child abduction in over a decade, according to the Tucson police department's own records, made no difference. That Sarra went back to the park to scour for needles and found none was also irrelevant. And how about the fact that she had actually worked as a statistician early in her career, so she had an above-average understanding of relative risk? The state didn't care.
"Arizona courts have reasoned that in dealing with 'probable cause,' we deal with probabilities," said DCS attorney Kayla Peckard at the hearing. "These aren't technical or factual."
Peckard essentially conceded that so-called probabilities don't have to be, well, probable.
"Adopting statistical data as part of the standard of 'probable cause' runs contrary to the legal precedent," she said.
When I took the stand (via Zoom), Sarra's lawyer, Thea Gilbert, asked me about my research on stranger danger. I replied that in researching my book, Free-Range Kids, I learned that if for some reason you wanted your child to be snatched by a stranger, you would have to leave a child outside for 750,000 years for that particular crime to be statistically likely to happen.
Gilbert then asked about the "reasonable childhood independence" laws that my nonprofit, Let Grow, helped to pass in four states. I noted that Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D) had just signed his state's bill into law the day before. "What's the significance of a childhood independence law?" Gilbert asked.
In most states, I replied, the neglect laws are pretty broad. That leaves them wide open to interpretation. Given all the different decisions a parent has to make and all the different judgments that onlookers (and caseworkers) might have, the reasonable independence laws clarify that neglect is only when you put your kids in obvious, serious, and likely danger—not anytime you take your eyes off them.
"Have any of those childhood independence laws been enacted in Arizona?" the DCS lawyer asked during cross-examination.
"Not yet," I admitted.
But the tides are turning. Timothy Sandefur, the Goldwater Institute's vice president for legal affairs, is hopeful that the appeals judge will rule that the bar for blacklisting parents—probable cause—is unconstitutionally low.
Right now, Sandefur explained, mere "probable cause" can get you listed. But probable cause is the low bar cops use to obtain a warrant.
"It's basically synonymous with 'suspicion,'" he says.
Guaranteeing people due process in such hearings and narrowing government neglect laws will ensure parents can make reasonable parenting decisions—and even let their kids play outside—without getting slammed by the state.
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It's weird he was at the park though. He's already 7, he should be working at his dad's taqueria.
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Wouldn't surprise me if someone in the Biden administration had her added to the No Fly List.
If she had dropped the kid off at drag queen story hour they wouldn't have said a word.
He could have been attacked by homeless people, witnessed drug abuse, sprained an ankle, broken an arm, or even stepped on glass or needles.
Sounds like a fun park.
Sarra, on the other hand, argued that those things weren't likely to happen and didn't.
Did this woman even consider the potential of mutant zombies? Alien abduction? Sweet Meteor of Death?
She needs to be locked up.
You forgot bears. Don't forget bears. Bears will fucking kill you.
Bears would have gone after the nearby tai-chi class. Old people can't run fast.
Only if you let them out of the trunk. Smart as they are, they still can't unlock it from the inside.
The headline says it's in Arizona, not California.
No one spoke up against that scurrilous affront to homeless people? I thought wokesters were in love with them.
They only have to defend the homeless when right wingers are pouncing.
In this case since there were no right wingers pouncing, they were allowed to admit the homeless are a problem because they were attempting to expand and reinforce the power of the state.
You say "admit" like the homeless were front and center and a point of concern at the park rather than the case being, seemingly, that there were no homeless people around so statists just rhetorically drove under the local overpass, picked up a homeless guy, and shoved him in front of a bus to make their case for persecuting this woman.
picked up a homeless guy, and shoved him in front of a bus to make their case for persecuting this woman.
We need to get more of this where I live.
In a just court, the judge would have thrown CPS in jail for wasting their resources prosecuting good mothers instead of cleaning up what they know is an absolute hell hole of a city park.
Sometimes, good things do happen. Hopefully, we can have more freedom like this and tell the busybody Karens to take a long walk off a short pier.
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Why do they need a registry for this?
Karens gonna Karen
Yeah, you don't want them wasting all that talent on duplicate snitching.
It's just one more tactic to sever the bond between parents and their children so that children can be under the sole influence of the state. That's been a fundamental leftist goal since Marx.
Those sneaky Republicans with their Marxist tactics
You still believe there's two different "parties". Cute.
Tucson and CPS are dem shrike.
Fuck off, peasant. DCS is an AZ state body.
Filled with democrat social degree majors shrike. Who reports kids to DCS? Hint. It is on the article. It was Tucson, a dem government. Maricopa , a gop leaning area, decided not to add her to the list.
I know you are defend the left all the time, but your argument is infantile.
Most of these Karens are Democrats. The same Karens who would get pissy in 2020 if you went outside without a mask.
what the hell is an "unfit parent registry" and how the hell did a free people allow this to happen?
I don't know. Searching for the phrase "unfit parent registry arizona" just linked to this article. I also found some divorce court stuff in the state, but that appears to be more custody related.
Oops, they named it in the article. "Central Registry":
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-child-welfare/2018/04/29/how-find-out-if-you-arizona-department-child-safety-central-registry-child-abuse-neglect/480234002/
It's a secret list, which is already a pretty fucking bad sign. I'll raise a stink at the next Arizona Illuminati meeting about it.
Arizona Illuminati
Band name.
Ian McCollum might be interested. He used to play bagpipes.
What's Central Registry, chopped liver?
Electing John McCain was a bad sign for the state.
"I do not believe that I neglected him," said Sarra, when she testified. "No, I believe that playing in the park is something that was appropriate to his development level, to who he is right now."
Remorseless, reckless dumbass. Adult supervision required. Let's hope these children overcome the obstacle of having a child for a parent.
Lets hope your programmers overcome the shame of writing such a pathetic subroutine as you.
NO! They should wear the shame like a dead mouse around their neck.
Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid or something?
I think it is great that disaffected, on-the-spectrum, faux libertarian, antisocial, inconsequential, permanently outraged, right-wing misfits have a place at which they can congregate, such as the reason.com comments section.
Remoras clean the dead skin from sharks, whales, and manta rays. Kind of like you feed off the scraps of posts to a forum of a magazine that espouses a philosophy in which you do not believe.
Here, eat some flakes, don't forget the perineum.
God you are just a muppet for the state aren't you.
Does the Left believe in allowing parents any discretion on these issues or is it just whatever the politicians say you'll go along with?
Sarra's case was dropped after she pled guilty and agreed to take parenting classes
Cool! Now make that a requirement for getting pregnant.
Pleading guilty?
I think I've seen that one on porn hub.
Central Registry, a government-maintained blacklist of Arizonans who are prohibited from working with children
, especially their own.
Helicopter authoritarianism.
Children should cling to their mothers' skirts at all times. What better way to promote healthy child development?
Well, it all worked out anyhow, since the process is the punishment and she certainly was processed.
"He could have been attacked by homeless people, witnessed drug abuse, sprained an ankle, broken an arm, or even stepped on glass or needles." Says Tucson, admitting it is a shithole city not worthy of having children as residents. The judge should have fined every city employee two month's wages for not doing their jobs.
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I try not to pay attention to the royals, but can't help but picking up bits and pieces now and again.
If you're gonna have royals Elizabeth II seems like a 10/10 for value. Charles is a horse's ass, always pontificating on crap he should keep to himself, like architecture styles, and stuff which is decidedly not a royal's business, like climate catastrophe. No idea why Diana married such a stiff stuffed horse's ass who carried on with Camilia the whole time. William seems to have turned out alright, and picked a good match in whatever her name is. Harry always seemed like he had an inferiority complex, dating and getting dumped by various famous babes, then settling on Meghan. I've only seen her in Suits, didn't even remember who she was, definitely a second rate actress who could at least memorize her lines, and now she's leading Harry around by the dick like that dingbat from the 1930s who got the king to abdicate. What a couple of petty wannabes, can't make up their mind whether they are jealous of the other royals or want to turn their back on them, milking the relationship for all it's worth. I think Harry is going to regret it in a few years when Meghan moves on and he has no friends of his own any more.
Divorce material for sure.
Our identitarian era has turned a narcissist into a hero.
A-. Good reporting. Personally, can't give full credit for omission of
"Ass for a lion" (The Lion King, 'piece of', 'Molly for a lion'... too many good pitches, not enough swings of the bat for an A+).
Joe Biden’s ‘semi-fascism’ comments are shameful
Smearing Trumpists as fascists is a cynical and dangerous game.
Complete irony as Biden’s executive orders reek of fascism.
After all, assorted Democrats, countless commentators and an army of hackademics have been shrilly denouncing Donald Trump and his supporters as ‘fascist’ for the best part of six years.
Huh, they must all actually know some really bad guy that we don't, named Bushitler, who is *not* associated with fascism.
And how about the fact that she had actually worked as a statistician early in her career, so she had an above-average understanding of relative risk? The state didn't care.
That the state doesn't care about the understanding of relative risk was made abundantly clear over the last two years. Pay attention.
"I testified as an expert witness" -- surprised you were called. You're a top advocate for one side of a debate, not a neutral expert. I'm with you on what you advocate for, but judges shouldn't give much weight to an expert witness with such a clear stake in the outcome.
What stake did she have in the outcome? Did she testify for a contingent fee?
Now I am convinced Lenore actually wrote the article, and that Robbie is sour-grapes Questioner7.
Heh.
He could have... stepped on glass or needles. Or he could have been abducted by a daytime kidnapper undeterred by all the dog walkers
"Why aren't the cops arresting all the dog abusers for walking their dogs on broken glass and needles?" - Reason Commentariate Paw Patrol
(Seriously, though, without a reason like needing to pull a dog sled full of insulin over a field of broken glass to a hospital full of diabetic orphans, even *I* think walking your dogs on broken glass is fucked up to the point of maybe being arrest worthy.)
Yesterday was the first day of school in our area. By 9AM Facebook had exploded with posts about kids waiting for the school bus, in their yards without a parent hovering over them. Many of the responses urged the poster to call Children and Youth on them.
I'm pretty sure that a 9 year old is quite capable of standing 25 feet from the front door of their house while waiting for the bus.
When I was seven I had the run of the neighborhood and walked to and from school alone. And so did all the other kids in the neighborhood.
DCS acts like the KGB, but the KGB was likely more professional.
My mom would be on the index expurgatorious today. But back when I left home of a morning at age 6 armed to the teeth and came back bloodied but unbowed before dark, fallout was still sifting down from H-bomb tests. No officious prigs were eager to pick a fight with my gringo parents. All hoped instead I'd get run over by a bus.
By this standard, when I grew up, every parent would have been on the "registry". Like the state would do better? Now the mother is on some government list, that potentially can be used against her at some point in the Kafka-esque world the government would like to have. The lovers of authoritarianism continue to shrink common sense and freedom.
The author of Childhood Disrupted says: “[Even] well-meaning and loving parents can unintentionally do harm to a child if they are not well informed about human development” (pg.24).
Regarding early-life trauma, people tend to know (perhaps commonsensically) that they should not loudly quarrel when, for instance, a baby is in the next room; however, do they know about the intricacies of why not? Since it cannot fight or flight, a baby stuck in a crib on its back hearing parental discord in the next room can only “move into a third neurological state, known as a ‘freeze’ state … This freeze state is a trauma state” (pg.123). This causes its brain to improperly develop. It's like a form of non-physical-impact brain damage.
Also, it’s the unpredictability of a stressor, and not the intensity, that does the most harm? When the stressor “is completely predictable, even if it is more traumatic — such as giving a [laboratory] rat a regularly scheduled foot shock accompanied by a sharp, loud sound — the stress does not create these exact same [negative] brain changes” (pg.42).
Furthermore, how many of us were aware that, since young children completely rely on their parents for protection and sustenance, they will understandably stress over having their parents angry at them for prolonged periods of time? It makes me question the wisdom of punishing children by sending them to their room without dinner.
Meanwhile, general society perceives and treats human reproductive “rights” as though we’ll somehow, in blind anticipation, be innately inclined to sufficiently understand and appropriately nurture our children’s naturally developing minds and needs. … In protest to newly mandated elementary school curriculum that teaches something undoubtedly controversial, a picket sign read, “We don’t co-parent with the government”. Yet, maybe a lot of incompetent yet procreative parents nowadays should.
As a moral rule, a physically and mentally sound future should be every child’s fundamental right — along with air, water, food and shelter — especially considering the very troubled world into which they never asked to enter.
I'm of the school of thought that the health of all children needs to be of real importance to everyone — and not just concern over what other parents’ children might or will cost us as future criminals or costly cases of government care, etcetera — regardless of how well our own developing children are doing. Simply mindlessly 'minding our own business' often proves humanly devastating.