Leana Wen Accused of 'Unsafe, Ableist, Fatphobic, and Unethical Practices' for Opposing COVID Mandates
The left-leaning commentator wants to get back to normal. So more than 600 experts want to censor her.

Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, one character has ruffled more feathers than perhaps anyone else in the public health sphere. It's not Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who recently declared himself the symbol of scientific "integrity and truth." It's Leana Wen, the medical doctor, pundit, and COVID hawk-turned-COVID normalizer. Once the target of conservative outrage over COVID mandates, Wen is now being targeted by left-leaning public health advocates who oppose her insistence that COVID is endemic and we need to live with it.
In response to to Wen's advocacy, a petition is circulating online seeking to have her booted as a speaker from the 2022 American Public Health Association (APHA) Annual Meeting and likening her current public-health advice—she opposes mandates and emphasizes vaccines, personal risk reduction, and an attempt at cultivating normalcy—as one rooted in eugenics. "We are demanding our colleagues and fellow leaders in public health to reconsider and replace Dr. Wen with someone whose work is consistent with anti-racist, anti-eugenicist public health practices and community health," the letter reads.
The ordeal is a perfect example of how difficult it has become to have a normal discussion in a public forum about anything. I empathize deeply with anyone still anxious about the threat that the coronavirus poses to them, a legitimate fear for many people who are elderly, disabled, or immunocompromised. This isn't a hypothetical for me: I'm on a cocktail of immunosuppressants. COVID has been a weird and strange time. But Wen is not a eugenicist, and her ideas aren't either.
Consider some of the claims made by the displeased AHPA attendees. "Through her platform on news outlets and social media, Dr. Wen has promoted unscientific, unsafe, ableist, fatphobic, and unethical practices during the COVID-19 pandemic," reads the petition, which has been signed by over 600 public-health researchers, professors, students, and physicians.
To support the claim that Wen subscribes to views that are "unscientific," the petitioners point to a tweet from March of this year in which Wen noted that "everything has risk, and zero covid is not a viable strategy." That benign assertion is arguably scientific fact, recently touted by the head of the World Health Organization. Yet in this instance it's been deemed so unscientific and unsafe that it should preclude Wen from speaking in public.
That sort of weak reasoning pervades the rest of their claims. Wen is allegedly fatphobic because she suggests not eating a donut every day; she is ableist because she says people should make decisions based on personal risk tolerance; she is unethical because she agreed with the latest CDC guidelines. If someone is unfit for a public speaking engagement because she is in step with the nation's top public health agency—the one not exactly known for throwing caution to the wind, the one that seeks to police everything from how much wine you drink to how much meat you eat—then who, exactly, is safe to speak?
"In a recent article, Dr. Wen suggested that infection should be accepted as a 'new normal,'" the petition continues. This is meant to shock the conscience. In reality, it is, once again, the mainstream scientific consensus, repackaged as something that is not only unscientific but so nefarious as to be murderous. "The 2022 keynote is an opportunity for APHA, the foremost and largest public health organization in the United States, to reject the history of paternalism, eugenics, and racism and to begin rebuilding a relationship with the public we serve," they write. "The start of a new relationship with the public can and should start with us."
This is histrionic nonsense. Actual eugenicists in the U.S. sterilized racial minorities and the poor. California's eugenics experiment—which lasted into the 21st century—provided inspiration for Nazi Germany's program. The petitioners mock actual eugenics victims by comparing their abusers to someone who echoes the scientific consensus that COVID-19 is now endemic to the U.S. and cannot be fully eradicated.
It is hard to overstate just how benign Wen's positions are. She has called cloth face coverings "little more than facial decorations"—something that is indeed backed by science—and encourages people to wear high-quality masks (which protect the wearer) as they see fit. She also opposes mandates, arguing that they do not make sense in perpetuity. It's widely accepted now that they never made sense at all. While N95 masks work to mitigate spread, the data show that mask mandates decidedly did not, perhaps because wearing one from the host stand to the restaurant table, then removing it, could never suppress a highly contagious airborne virus. Though the APHA dissidents imply that Wen's stance is both unscientific and Darwinian, they do not reckon with the actual science nor do they lay out a scientific alternative to Wen's positions.
Such is often the case with censorship attempts. Instead of presenting a better idea, the goal is to make someone a pariah. It's easier. Who on earth wants to come to the table with a eugenicist?
Wen has been in the hot seat for the entirety of the pandemic. But it wasn't always this hot seat. The Washington Post columnist and CNN contributor once favored the mandates she now opposes, sometimes remarking that the unvaccinated should have fewer privileges in public life. It's a stance I very much disagree with. Now Wen does, too. What changed?
A panel she spoke on at the Aspen Ideas Festival in June provides a window. "How I think about risk has really evolved over the course of the pandemic," she said. "If there's one thing that I wish we had all done a better job of communicating right from the beginning, it's that change is to be expected. As in, the same things that we did in 2020, with the knowledge that we had in 2020, the tools that we had in 2020, are different than the tools that we have now….We're adapting to the circumstances." Those circumstances, in her view, included the initial hope that COVID-19 could be contained. But that was a pipe dream.
Her shift solidified with the advent of Omicron in December 2021, she noted, with its mild symptoms and high contagiousness. "We're all going to get COVID at some point," Wen said. "What am I willing to do to not get COVID? What am I willing to have my family do—in terms of not traveling, my 4-year-old still masking in school, not going to indoor play dates, all these things—what is the price we're willing to pay in order to avoid COVID?"
Put differently, she has been no stranger to backlash, some of it deserved and some of it not, though where those apply depends on the individual. Yet in a sort of cosmic irony, the APHA working group she is supposed to speak on is titled "Weathering the Storm: Countering Backlash Against Public Health." True to its name, the section is slated to delve into how people in the field deal with backlash; a copy of the schedule obtained by Reason shows Wen sharing her time slot with another controversial figure, Thomas Dobbs, the progressive medical doctor and Mississippi state health officer who was named in the recent Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade.
Wen will speak on "Harassment, bullying and death threats: Staying the course while under attack." In other words, the petition seeks to generate enough backlash against Wen to prevent her from speaking about how to deal with backlash. The jokes write themselves.
"Leana Wen is not a keynote speaker and is not being paid any sort of fee to participate in the APHA Annual Meeting and Expo," reads a statement from the APHA. In regards to Wen speaking on bullying, "this is something she and many other public health officials across the country have encountered at unprecedented levels in recent years, and that she is well-qualified to address." Indeed, the petition makes a strong case for her appearance.
But this letter is not just about a single conference and a single speaker. It's indicative of a larger trend, one where the loudest voices try to drown out opposition and speak on behalf of the collective. But being loud doesn't mean you speak for anyone; it just means you're loud. Consider a January Monmouth poll which found that 70 percent of Americans agree that "it's time we accept Covid is here to stay and we just need to get on with our lives"—the sentiment Wen shares, which has been branded too controversial for public consumption. Consider that a more recent poll by Morning Consult, taken in July, found that just 14 percent of Americans see COVID-19 as a "severe health risk." And consider APHA's motto: that they "champion[] the health of all people and all communities," not just a choice few.
The petitioners seeking to silence Wen don't speak for the majority of the public. They also don't speak for every vulnerable person mentioned in their letter, because they certainly don't speak for me.
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Wasn't she one of the Branch Covidians advocating for stricter Covid restrictions earlier in the pandemic, saying that those who refuse to be vaccinated should be locked up within their own homes, and calling them "filthy vermin"?
https://notthebee.com/article/this-may-be-the-greatest-defiant-ls-of-all-time/
I guess what comes around goes around.
Exactly her. This bitch should be run out of town.
Leave it to Proggies to cancel people for all the wrong reasons.
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To be fair, "filthy vermin" was editorial paraphrase by a source hostile to her.
That's probably what got her the gig as a talking head on CNN.
I'm actually amazed they didn't cut to a test pattern and fire her on the spot when she said on air that fabric masks had never been good for much more than decoration. Just because something is backed up by the result of pretty much every controlled and peer-reviewed study ever published doesn't mean that rejecting it outright isn't the same as "following the data"...
Ideologues would cancel someone for claiming the sky is "up" and the ground is "down" if their existing worldview required them to believe otherwise.
Yes. They addressed that in the article. SHE CHANGED HER MIND.
It's good to change one's mind. It shows that you are growing. To stay stagnant is to let your mind slowly decay into a propaganda-hungry void. You let someone else tell you how to think because if you don't, you might crumble under the strain of cognitive dissonance because you haven't been working your discoursive mind muscles.
It's the equivalent of never leaving your bed and gorging on Cheetos and beer. You become repulsive. You stink. You are a burden to all around you and they hate you for it.
This rancid cunt was all in for the tyranny and helped crush those opposed to the clotshot. Fuck her, and fuck you for defending her. You both need to be shot.
Fuck her. Bitch killed thousands of children at Planned Parenthood before she graduated to traumatizing them with her COVID alarmism.
I hope the guillotine blade the cancelers use on her is extra sharp.
Don't you mean really dull?
Screw using a blade, use a spoon.
I'm having trouble picturing a guillotine with a spoon.
Maybe a head-removal spork? Still can't work out the engineering in my head there.
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Actually, Planned Parenthood fired her because she wanted them to focus more on healthcare for poor women instead of politicizing abortion. I’m not a fan of Wen at all, or most of those in the public health field, but at least she is one of the less dishonest of the bunch.
Love it when Progs eat their own.
This fucking evil cunt wanted the unvaccinated to all be fired from their jobs and locked in their homes,.
'Wen in Rome, act like a Marxist or be banished.'
'...The petitioners seeking to silence Wen don't speak for the majority of the public. ...' Really? Maybe they say that in public, but what do they say in private?
https://reason.com/2022/08/24/for-many-americans-cancel-culture-is-self-inflicted/
Not 600 experts as the subheadline states.
True shreek, it's actually 629. Those words with the lines underneath them? Those are hyperlinks. If you click on that it will take you to a different page.
The asshole SRG has no interest in those constructs "evidence" or "facts".
public-health researchers, professors, students, and physicians.
Not Experts.
Some might be experts. A lot are students in the list (a quick count showed over 110), and you can get students to sign any progressive shite. A lot of "experts" seem to have jobs like "advocate" -- not what it's an advocate for, just advocate -- and others are things like Health Equity Advocate. I like this one:
- Artie Vierkant, Advocate, Death Panel
Lots just say "Health worker" which could mean anything from a surgeon to the guy mopping floors and cleaning bedpans, though I somehow can't imagine any Doctor not loudly proclaiming that they are a Doctor because... well, fucking doctors.
I'mma go ahead and say the 70 people on the list who are "advocate", independent or otherwise, don't count as experts, like the students. Nor do the folks who are just "health sector worker."
I mean, I despise Wen. She's an awful person. No friend of SRG, either. But in this case, there's no fucking way that that is a list with 600 experts on it. It's just a list of 600 random people hanging around a university hospital that they got to sign a list.
Was there a link to the petition with the signers? That would be a start on an on-line list of people who proved themselves so stupid and ignorant no one should ever listen to anything they say.
Fuck off, peasant
Turns out her own child suffered actual effects from the masking and isolation. Who knew this could happen? Could be wrong but it is the word I heard.
Or maybe that was just due to prolonged exposure to her.
This is what I saw:
https://summit.news/2022/08/24/cnn-medical-analyst-who-fiercely-advocated-masking-now-admits-it-harmed-her-own-sons-development/
"Wen also admits that “Masking has harmed our son’s language development, and limiting both kids’ extracurriculars and social interactions would negatively affect their childhood and hinder my and my husband’s ability to work.”
As we have previously highlighted, lockdowns and masking in particular have had massively detrimental impacts upon children."
I think we should give credit where credit is due. Even if it did come late, she was at least able to reconsider her position and change it when she saw new evidence of the harm her preferred policies caused. Most people aren't that intellectually honest.
True, but Wen has received so much writing because of her place in the political class. Reason should have about 300 articles on all the signers of the Great Barrington Declaration before they spend any more ink on people who weren't right from the start. Then the fact that the first principles of individual liberty were unbelievably correct on COVID government response could be highlighted, not the divide that the culture wars create. Guess I'm no "expert" journalist though.
Yes her kid was her motivation.
"fatphobic"?
Like homophobic as a term, fatphobic, and any other 'phobic' that the left trots out is linguistically missing the discussion point. The left wishes to disregard any and all viewpoints, cancelling rational discussions.
I do not have an irrational fear of the obese. Rather, I have a perfectly sound understanding of the relationship that excess weight has upon physiology, and in the context of covid, upon the dire problems encountered by the severely overweight. This from personal experience as a critical care physician.
When people hurl the phrase 'phobic', they do so to close all discussion, investigation, and furthering of understanding.
I do not have an irrational fear of the obese. Rather, I have a perfectly sound understanding of the relationship that excess weight has upon physiology, and in the context of covid, upon the dire problems encountered by the severely overweight. This from personal experience as a critical care physician.
You say this like the term fatphobic originated or is rooted in Traditional Western Science and Medicine rather than the more contemporary culture of "Would you prefer to stick your dick in it?"
And it works, because if anyone uses the term fatphobic, I stop talking with them, because they clearly are not interested in conversation.
There is such a thing as fatphobia, and it typically manifests in eating disorders and other such severe attempts to lose weight that they are actively unhealthy.
There is a difference between severe obesity, which has extremely negative issues, and being mildly "overweight" which is a statistical wash as far as health risks and bears no negatives outside of sports performance. Supermodels and "health" experts that attempt to force everyone into malnourishment in order to meet arbitrary weight goals are definitely fatphobic.
On the other hand, the term has no bearing on the discussion at hand, which is just an attempt to yell "Shut up" at Dr Wen as loudly as possible
Guess what? Obesity is one of the big COVID-19 comorbidities, along with the often accompanying Type II Diabetes. Part of it is the constant state of inflammation that excess weight causes. Inflammation that is, ultimately, an immune reaction, and thus, impacts the ability to fight the virus. Turns out, that an effective diet for the very obese is probably better than the experimental mRNA gene therapies imposed on us, for emergency use, as if they were vaccines, for protected this very high risk demographic from the virus.
Jesus was fatphobic. He declared he was living water and everyone with any science knowledge knows that water and fat don’t mix because water is fat phobic.
Or is fat water-phobic?
I can’t remember…
"I empathize deeply with anyone still anxious about the threat that the coronavirus poses to them"
I don't.
Totally agree if they are not in a high risk group. And that means obese, immunosuppressed, multiple comorbidities...elderly or "65+ year old" is not necessarily a risk factor. Maybe 65+, vitamin D deficient, unhealthy, overweight, multiple comorbidities, etc. is. I'm 67 and worked the entire pandemic when there were no vaccines and more deadly strains and never missed a day of work. My only risk factor was the "65+ y.o." overgeneralization.
>>with anti-racist, anti-eugenicist public health practices
planned parenthood?
Wen is allegedly fatphobic because she suggests not eating a donut every day...
But they come free with my daily booster shot!
Wen is allegedly fatphobic because she suggests not eating a donut every day
Are we sure this isn't also lesbophobic?
also a cop joke but nobody on left would get it
Humor is racist!
The people demonizing Dr. Wen seem nearly as bad as those who have demonized Dr. Fauci.
Lol. Uh, Artie? Those are your people.
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Poor Artie.
You mean the same Dr. Fauci who mishandled AIDS and lies right and left?
You cling to some seriously stupid shit there, Kirkland.
I mean the Dr. Fauci who was awarded the Medal of Freedom for a half-century of skilled, altruistic service to our nation, while a bunch of science-disdaining, virus-flouting, delusional, half-educated right-wing dumbasses whined at the sidelines.
Lol now do all the starving people around the world article. You and Joe Friday are the most effective trolls.
Fuck off and die, asshole bigot.
^about the only appropriate response to AK
"Dr." Fauci demonized "Dr." Fauci.
Hi Reverend. I've seen many of your posts. You are not qualified to have an opinion on any aspect of COVID-19.
This is a case of the cult attacking anybody who leaves -- even if they'd been 'good Germans' up until then. The pressure to conform is tremendous.
That's one of the defining characteristics of a cult.
I think maybe she shouldn't be allowed to leave her home.
When you sup with the devil, you may find your spoon is too short.
She bought in; she owns what she got.
That sort of weak reasoning pervades the rest of their claims.
What do we expect? Our education system taught tens of millions of people that if an event could even theoretically have a particular motivation it should be treated as conclusive. Obviously this was created so accusations of racism / sexism / homophobia wouldn't need real evidence, and originally at least it was tacitly understood it should only be used against non-leftists.
I wonder how she feels now that it's being used against her, an identity politics partisan and fellow hater of the right. I bet there's a certain level of regret the method broke the firewall. But I also strongly suspect she still believes this method is perfectly valid when used against non-leftists.
Reasoning is racist.
Maybe, but it's still fun to watch these people eat their own.
I mean, it's remarkably stupid. And looking at who is on the list it's like Degrassi Jr High level of stilted drama, but being focused on this fucktard Wen woman is hilariously unreasonable.
She best be watching for ice axes ...
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"Through her platform on news outlets and social media, Dr. Wen has promoted unscientific, unsafe, ableist, fatphobic, and unethical practices during the COVID-19 pandemic," reads the petition, which has been signed by over 600 public-health researchers, professors, students, and physicians.
In a recent article, Dr. Wen suggested that infection should be accepted as a 'new normal,'" the petition continues [...] "The 2022 keynote is an opportunity for APHA, the foremost and largest public health organization in the United States, to reject the history of paternalism, eugenics, and racism and to begin rebuilding a relationship with the public we serve[.]"
These "public health scientists" appear to be insane. Why would any rational person want any kind of relationship with them.
"What am I willing to do to not get COVID? What am I willing to have my family do—in terms of not traveling, my 4-year-old still masking in school, not going to indoor play dates, all these things—what is the price we're willing to pay in order to avoid COVID?"
Some of us were asking that 30 months ago.
Better late than never
Another sign that we may have to divide this country soon. I just hope we get at least three new nations, so I can live someplace besides Jesusland and The People's Socialist Republic.
If that happened, Jesusland and the PSR would be the immediate result, but then, both rump countries would either have to make compromises with minorities in order to stay together, or break into smaller countries themselves. There's not enough Christian Rightists or Communists to dominate half the country without coalition partners.
No sympathy for her. Not in this case. She was one of the most authoritarian, vile lockdowners in media, bar none. She literally created the environment that's coming for her. She was one of the principal architects of the entire public attitude among the pro-mask-lockdown crowd.
This is not someone who had some other, unrelated opinions that's being canceled for something that I'm a defender of, such as free speech etc. But this is like someone who ran a concentration camp for political prisoners and is now being dragged through a show trial and sent to her own concentration camp. Zero... sympathy.
On the one hand, there is the desire for someone not to be punished for promoting (at long last) a reasonable position. On the other hand, earned karma.
She can be our Jan Huss. Someone who wasn't so sanctimonious can be the reformer who is NOT burned at the stake.
had she changed her opinion with a concomitant groveling apology that everything she's ever uttered on this subject in the past was not only wrong, but criminally wrong, then maybe. But that's not what we have here. What we have is the same thing going on at the CDC. Just "hey, here's our guidance two and a half years later which essentially mirrors that from the world's top scientists who we ran explicit smear campaigns against". Mumble mumble, foot notes.
As Brett Weinstein analogized, it's a bit like a bunch of businesses saying "We don't serve Jews" for two and a half years, and now they're saying, "Nope, everything's ok, we've recalculated and we'll start allowing Jews at the lunch counter".
No. NO! That doesn't make it all better. All it does it tells us what you're capable of.
Have you seen/heard his podcast with Norman Fenton? If not, it is worth a listen.
This is the last I'll say on this, but she essentially spent the last two years screeching that anyone who wasn't vaccinated or masked and social distanced was to be treated by the law as a second class citizen. Then CNN has a 90% ratings crash, they fire Brian Stelter and then all of a sudden, there's a new message coming out of her mouth.
Nuh uh... Like Jules said in Pulp Fiction, you ain't talkin' your way out of this shit.
Other things he said that could have been spoken directly to Leana Wen include
“Man, I will never forgive your ass for this shit. This is some fucked-up repugnant shit.”
and
“I don’t remember asking you a goddamn thing.”
The fight against overbearing safetyism (and centrally planned society in general) is so important, and the number of people on the other side is so large, that getting people to switch sides is of overriding importance.
Therefore, maybe forgo the comeuppance/contrition part and just welcome anyone who finally sees the light. Yeah, the fact that she was a ringleader does make her more culpable, but it also makes her a more influential convert.
Having said that, getting attacked by her own ex-allies isn't a bad thing. Helps make sure the conversion "sticks". But no need for any us to pile on.
I'm a big believer in second chances. The chance that I would give Wen is to ask her if she would censor people who state that "neither hurricane numbers nor their intensity has increased over the last 50 years". If she say "yes" then nothing has changed. If she say "no" then perhaps there is redemption for her.
Dude, we’re in a tiny minority here. The last thing we need to do is impose yet another purity test.
Accept your allies for whatever issues they have common ground and look to convince them about the rest. Don’t chase them off because they held a position that most of the country agreed with at the time.
Yeah, there should be fewer purity tests.
But one has to point out that Old Engineer's test is not very hard. He's not demanding that she affirm or even accept anything at all about hurricanes. He's not even asking her to do anything. He's just asking her to not censor people for saying stuff about hurricanes, when she doesn't even much the power to do so. Seems like a no cost "yes".
"This is histrionic nonsense."
It always was. They were never arguing in good faith. They were always behaving as if the perfect policy could provide absolute protection, if they were not the ones benefitting from lockdowns or was living for their authoritarian fantasies.
WAPO apparently mentioned Original Antigenic Sin in an article today. The numbers must be getting really bad. My guess is that the insurance data is going to be impossible to hide. I think their strategy is to hand this on the neck of Trump...another pivot that seems to be happening in real time on Twitter.
Well, this article has made me view Dr. Wen more favorably. Her public messages in 2020 and 2021 were frighteningly totalitarian. Now her stance has become reasonable and supported by both science and rational thinking. So, good for her for changing, although we can't expect her to apologize for the crazy stuff she said in the past.
although we can't expect her to apologize for the crazy stuff she said in the past.
We can't? Why not? That crazy stuff she said put her at the head of the very mob that's now coming for her scalp. And the only thing that's changed is that she's seeing the consequences of her stance visiting her own children.
Wen just threw some cold water on the boners of those who still jerk off to Fauci, like the Rev-how dare she!
"It isn't happening and you are totally a conspiracy theorist for even mentioning it..... but it is super bad when it happens to a progressive"
COVID is endemic and people should be allowed to wear face decorations if they choose to. People should not be forced to wear face decorations, nor should they be forced to be injected with a foreign substance.
Nearly every human on the planet will eventually get COVID and for the vast majority of these people the symptoms will be something like other upper respiratory viruses like influenza.
We have the natural rights to speak and air our opinions and should not allow the authoritarians to stifle our free speech.
There are three basic resolutions to conflict which are Dialogue, Separation, and Force. Dialogue is the preferred method where you attempt to persuade and compromise with the other party. The COVID regime attempts to shut down unauthorized opinions, and resorted to mandated (forced) compliance.
The COVID regime is an authoritarian not a scientific movement. While Leana Wen was swayed by the COVID regime for quite awhile, at least she is using evidence to call out the lies.
Anders Tegnell Rules!!!
However, the "Science Is Real" yard-sign crowd will never accept experiential results over political dogma....
The inarguable truth concerning science in America is, "We Suck At Science!"
But let's fund more mental delinquents studying for "Social Justice Warrior" degrees....
Wen was one of the leading advocates of technocratic authoritarianism in response to the COVID panic. Now that she realizes that the authoritarianism she's been advocating is going to have to be paid by her own children, she wants to change her tune. The better part of me wants to say, "better late than never" and come to her defense against the rest of the technocratic authoritarian mob that's seeking to destroy her. The thing is, at no point have I seen anything from her saying "I was wrong". Hell, even this article has her pretending that somehow or another "the science has changed". Except it hasn't. It's just what it was when she was at the front of the authoritarian mob that's now looking to destroy her. And the authoritarian mob held up its end of the bargain. They delivered her her facetime on CNN and national prominence. Now she wants out of the deal because the childrens' lives ruined are her own? She called forth the devil. And the devil wants blood. Better her own than that of an innocent.
What's wrong with being a eugenicist?
For decades we've been following social welfare and education policies that amount to dysgenics.
I notice "Darwinian" was thrown in like it's an insult too!
I love it when the wokenazis turn on each other.
Me. Maybe we can talk science.
What's wrong with wanting to improve people genetically? We want to improve their physical conditions medically, surgically, nutritionally...why is genetics out of the question?
Because the value of a human being is so complex and subtle that we have no idea how to engineer "better" people. Who was the superior human being—Stephen Hawking or Mike Tyson?
Kudos to her for seeing the light.
Most people can't admit when they were wrong.
Which is why so many people are mad at her now.
Wen was a wretched witch who helped weave the psychotic hysteria we witnessed.
No sympathy here.
And fuck this retard group and their insane pseudo-scientific gibberish.
You understand that "this retard group" includes you, right?
Yeah. Whatever. /rolls eyes.
Very must the HAES gang is behind it... as soon as you read the words fatphobic it tells you all you need to know. Personally I do not care one whit about where the woman in the article stands... but HAES gang is a detriment to society
From the echo chamber dept: Now if only she was disposed to read the article and these comments, they might have an effect.
In the 1940's Robert Heinlein described the last half of the 20th and first half of the 21st century as "The Crazy Years". He was right.
I need to get some more of his novels - I haven't read one in years!! Thanks for the reference!
ummm - Surprise? The left is nuts? (not surprised...)
Fuck the APHA. I'll cut Wen some slack for FINALLY getting her head out of her ass.
"While N95 masks work to mitigate spread". Please stop printing this misinformation. N95 masks are designed to filter 95% (not 100%) of particles 500uM and larger. Respiratory viruses are 3-5uM and thus easily pass through the filter media.
Are there still people stuck on this unscientific fact?
Respiratory viruses do not travel naked through the air.
They are found on droplets of saliva.
These droplets are very much larger than the virus is themselves.
The N95 is a class of masks some have valves some don't either way for medical purposes they are single use and should be discarded as soon as they are become clogged or soiled.
They become clogged or soiled easily in non-hepa filtered environments and are not suitable for all day wear if their intended purpose is medical in nature.
Having watched a woman at the super market do a scratch and sniff of her asscrack shoving her whole hand up under the mask in line while wearing one I am certain hers was purely for demonstration purposes only.
And let me not forget my personal favorite: using a mask as an athletic supporter for the nose.
Once clogged or misaligned with the contour of the face they pass unfiltered air through the side making them as effective as nothing at all.
Since most people are not professionals who have trained for years to not touch their face under any circumstances until they are no longer in an environment where they need protection, most if not all PPE used by the general public is strictly for demonstration purposes only.
Yes for the first 10 minutes before they scratch and sniff or adjust and readjust the living hell out of that n95 it may work flawlessly however after that first 10 minutes it is nothing more than a bacterial incubator strapped to the face of the most inept person to ever be confused by their own shoelaces.
On the bright side, seeing people still wear masks is comforting to me, at least I know in the coming apocalypse my children will have an ample supply of mindless sheep to use as fodder for their zombie armies.
Hope this helped.
Giving consideration to her position on what she felt was an appropriate punishment for me and my family, most notably my children for not wanting to mask and not wanting her experimental medical treatment I can honestly say, I don't care if they tie her to a stake and burn her for being a witch.
I wouldn't give 2 squirts of piss to put her out if she were on fire.
What I want to see is human rights tribunals and I want to full disclosure of all communications by these so called medical experts. I want to see those who knew and conformed tried, convicted and given the proper send off we reserve for such vile examples of humanity.
In this act I would hope there would be healing for those harmed by so called medical professionals and a reminder to those still practicing medicine that they have a responsibility to their patients over everything else.
"I was merely following ze orders of the CDC" should become a common refrain for the next generation.