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Reason Roundup

Number of American Mass Murders Relatively Steady Since 2006

Plus: A surge in female voter registrations, eminent domain in North Carolina, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 8.22.2022 9:40 AM

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It's become commonplace to talk of an "epidemic" of mass shootings. But new data suggests the "only epidemic is in fear levels," as Northeastern University criminologist James Alan Fox puts it.

The data come from USA Today, Northeastern University, and the Associated Press, which tracked mass murders in which four or more people (excluding the killer) were killed in a 24-hour period. Fox oversees this database, which goes back to 2006. It includes not just mass shootings but other sorts of mass murder, such as arsons and vehicular homicides.

"The number of mass killings in 2022 is about average compared with previous years despite recent shootings that captured public attention," USA Today reports. "The number of victims is somewhat higher than average but still below previous highs."

"Cases in which someone shoots strangers in a public place usually get the most attention," the newspaper adds. "But fatal public shootings are a small fraction of all mass killings."

Needless to say, murders of any kind are tragic. But the database challenges the conventional wisdom about mass murders, showing that their frequency has held relatively steady since 2006.

In 2006, there were 38 mass killings—the second highest number in the database. The year with the highest number was 2019, with 45 incidents (including 8 public shootings, 25 non-public shootings, and 12 non-shooting incidents). In 2008, there were 36 mass killings and 35 in 2021. On the lower end, there were 22 mass killings in 2012; there were 25 each in 2013, 2014, and 2018; and there were 26 in 2007. There have been 19 incidents so far in 2022.

Public mass killings occurred on average six times per year, notes Fox. The most in any one year was 10, in 2018.

Since 2006, the number of victims killed in mass murders of any sort—public and non-public, shootings or otherwise—was highest in 2019 (229 victims), 2017 (226), and 2016 (196). Before this, the highest years were 2006 (183), 2009 (172), 2021 (172), and 2008 (171).

The years with the least victims were 2020 (114), 2014 (113), 2013 (116), 2010 (121), and 2018 (140).

So far in 2022, there have been 108 people killed in mass murders—42 in public mass shootings and 66 in non-public mass shootings.

"A guy who kills his wife and children and sometimes kills himself is the most common type of mass killing," Fox told USA Today. "Mass killings take place far more often in private homes than in schools, markets or churches."

From 2006 to now, the data show 349 mass killings in some sort of residence or private shelter and 155 in public places, including 50 in commercial, retail, or entertainment establishments, 32 in open spaces, 12 at schools or colleges, and seven in churches. Regardless of location, the killers were overwhelmingly men.

Mass killings "take place across the country in towns of all sizes," the newspaper notes. "Homicides with fewer than four victims are more common in larger cities, but mass killings with higher death tolls often take place in smaller towns or rural settings."


FREE MINDS

Female voter registrations surge following abortion ruling. New data from the political data firm TargetSmart suggests that in the wake of the Supreme Court's ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, some states have been seeing a surge of women registering to vote. "This isn't just a blue state phenomena. In fact, it is more pronounced in states where choice is more at risk, or has been eliminated by the decision," TargetSmart CEO Tom Bonier pointed out on Twitter.

The largest gender gap in new voter registrations was seen in Kansas, where voters at the beginning of August rejected an anti-abortion ballot measure. "70% of Kansans who registered to vote after the Dobbs decision was released were women," TargetSmart reported on August 3.

Double-digit gender gaps in new voter registrations are also seen in Idaho (18 percent), Wisconsin (17 percent), Louisiana (13 percent), Pennsylvania (12 percent), Ohio (11 percent), Missouri (10 percent), and Colorado (10 percent), per TargetSmart's data. Voter registration gender gaps ranging from 5 to 7 percent were seen in North Carolina, Connecticut, New Mexico, Alabama, Maine, Georgia, Indiana, South Dakota, Illinois, and Florida.

Here are the states with the biggest gender gap among new registrants since the Dobbs decision was handed down. This isn't just a blue state phenomena. In fact, it is more pronounced in states where choice is more at risk, or has been eliminated by the decision. pic.twitter.com/X4Kj2oG550

— Tom Bonier (@tbonier) August 17, 2022

Drilling down a bit in some states, TargetSmart found that registrations have been heavily concentrated among younger women and Democrats. For instance, in Pennsylvania women account for more than 56 percent of post-Dobbs voter registrations. ("For reference, among all registrants in PA, women outnumber men by only a 4 pt margin," tweeted Bonier.) More than half of these new women voters were under age 25. And 62 percent registered as Democrats, compared to just 15 percent as Republicans. New male registrants in Pennsylvania also trended young and Democratic, but by smaller margins (41 percent under age 25, 43 percent Democrat, and 28 percent Republican).

In NC, pre-Dobbs, new registrants +1 GOP. Post-Dobbs, +5 Dem.

— Tom Bonier (@tbonier) August 20, 2022

Meanwhile, "in states like New York or Rhode Island, where the right to choose is protected by state law and reinforced by state officials, the motivation amongst women to register to vote is much lower and the numbers aren't telling the same story," suggests TargetSmart. The gender gap among new New York voters was less than 3 percent, and in Rhode Island it was nearly equal.


FREE MARKETS

The North Carolina Department of Transportation (NCDOT) proposes seizing homes to make way for highway. The agency wants to use eminent domain powers to make room for VinFast, a Vietnamese automobile company, by expanding a highway to accommodate it.* "Altogether, NCDOT estimates it will need to take 27 homes and five businesses and move Merry Oaks Baptist Church," reports The News & Observer:

"They're going to mess up a good home place," said Lena Stone, who stands to lose four houses—hers and three rental properties where NCDOT plans to widen Pea Ridge Road. Stone has lived there since 1973, and the property has long been a family gathering place, said her daughter, Rhonda Mitchell….

It often takes many years for NCDOT to plan big highway projects like this. But the timeline here is set by VinFast and the state's desire to see it begin producing electric SUVs at the plant in 2024. Chatham County and the state offered the company $1.25 billion in tax and other incentives to locate here, including about $250 million for road and rail improvements in and around the site.


QUICK HITS

• Onlooker video shows police officers in Crawford County, Arkansas, beating up a man they pinned down outside a convenience store. Two of the deputies involved "have been suspended" pending the outcome of an investigation, the Crawford County Sheriff's Office said.

• A partial hand recount of Kansas votes on an anti-abortion ballot measure confirms that the measure failed. "Nine of the state's 105 counties recounted their votes at the request of Melissa Leavitt, who has pushed for tighter election laws," reports the A.P. "After the recounts, 'no' votes lost 87 votes and 'yes' gained 6 votes."

• A federal court has ruled against key parts of Florida's "Stop WOKE Act."

• Vietnam's government has declared homosexuality "not a disease," and Singapore is repealing a law that bans gay sex.

• Hugo Chavez and socialism are being "erased from the Caracas skyline," says Bloomberg. In their place: ads for makeup, phones, and jeans.

• A Florida sheriff's deputy has resigned after bodycam video showed him telling a speeding car "pull the vehicle over or I'll put you into the ground" and then pulling a gun on the driver of the car, who was a pregnant woman with kids in the backseat. "Rather than immediately pull over, [the woman] turned on her emergency lights and kept driving in order to find a well-lit area," the New York Post reports.

• Teachers in Columbus, Ohio, are going on strike.


*CORRECTION: NCDOT is trying to take homes to make way for highway improvements to accommodate an auto factory, not for the factory itself.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    But new data suggests the "only epidemic is in fear levels..."

    Even more useful!

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      We're talking about the flu (aka covid), right?

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        That’s so last month. The shiny new panic is monkey pox.

        1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

          covid = old and busted
          monkeypox = new hotness

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    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Number of American Mass Murders Relatively Steady Since 2006

      Is this supposed to be some kind of assurance?

      1. Wizard4169   3 years ago

        When a lot of people are screaming about a non-existent "epidemic", yes.

        1. Griffin3   3 years ago

          You are still more likely to be killed in a mass murder attack than being killed by Hillary Clinton. But less likely than being killed by a household fall.

          1. Jerry B.   3 years ago

            And you’re 100 times more likely to be killed in a traffic accident than by an assault weapon.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      The only thing we have to fear is not being fearful enough?

      1. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

        My fear accelerator is already jammed to the floor.

        1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

          I’m afraid it might be time to panic.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Sounds terrifying.

          2. Utkonos   3 years ago

            I’ll know when it’s time to panic. See, I set an alarm.

    4. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      We need better training for mass shooters to get us out of this slump.

    5. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

      the question is would you ENB vote for a politician who will end the Fed but ban abortions after 15 weeks or a politican who will expand the federal govt, monetize trillions more AND allow abortion till birth? Seriously..if any woman votes for the second and talks about "rights" they should lose their right to vote...period.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Female voter registrations surge following abortion ruling.

    They're interest cycles have synced.

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      14 weeks... still plenty of time to change their minds.

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Haven't polls usually shown that, contrary to the narrative, women are more pro-life than men?

      https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/395816-dem-pollster-women-are-less-likely-to-be-pro-choice/

      and

      https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/abortion-trends-gender.aspx

      If so, ENB might not actually like this.

      1. Cyto   3 years ago

        I doubt that this is the way it augers.

        People rush out to vote when they are under threat. In this case. Pro life just won. You don't rush out to register because you are winning, you rush out because you are afraid of what you are losing.

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        2. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

          How have any of these people avoided being registered up to now? At this point it's almost an act of actively dodging registration. These folks must be absolute bottom of the barrel on the awareness of political issues. Just what we need, more dumb-fucks voting.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            They’re dead people.

          2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

            Yeah, sure. Because it's so intelligent to immerse yourself in caring about the unproductive, angry world of Red vs. Blue Team sports instead of spending your time on your personal life.

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              Whoosh! (Again)

            2. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

              No. Just don't vote for people and things unless you're willing to spend the time to figure out what they are. Maybe these newly minted voters will have a chance to vote on the next "assault weapons" ban or maybe the next "don't say gay" bill.

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                Dee’s more interested in an assault fire extinguisher ban herself.

      2. Foo_dd   3 years ago

        you missed the ages and party most of them were registering with.

    3. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      We need to end women sufferage

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Seems kinda straightforward that if you aren't in a life situation to take care of a baby, you aren't in a life situation to take care of full-grown adults.

      2. Super Scary   3 years ago

        Yeah, women are suffering too much! Let's put an end to it.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Go back to giving women protected legal status, so they don't have to worry about stress from voting and signing contracts.

      3. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        No, just go back to literacy tests.

      4. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

        Haven't those poor women suffraged enough???

  3. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    ...registrations have been heavily concentrated among younger women and Democrats.

    Venn diagram with The Handmaid's Tale enthusiasts.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      I have never read the book, but I did see the movie with Natasha Richardson. The villains of the movie are rich white couples and the wives in particular. The plot is that infertile rich couples enslave fertile poor women to bear their children.

      How exactly that book became some kind of holy mantra for rich white women is a real mystery to me. Don't they understand the book makes them the villains?

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Don't they understand the book makes them the villains?

        They do all the cooking and all the cleaning and you think that makes *them* the villains!

        1. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

          I think he's referring to the commander's wives, who don't do any of that stuff and are pretty much just villains.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            Yes. That is who I am referring to.

            1. mad.casual   3 years ago

              And I'm referring to the idea that if you think plainly telling women that they're the victim of their own behavior is going to work, best of luck. Maybe they'll listen if you work it into some jokes

              1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                No argument there. Just because I find it amazing doesn't mean I think I could fix it.

              2. Nardz   3 years ago

                Progressive women aren't victims, they're malicious totalitarikarens

          2. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Are you mansplaining why women aren't the victims?

            More seriously, what exactly makes you (him) think they aren't between willfully ignorant and completely aware?

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              Did you just assume default’s gender?

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                Did you just imply that women can't mansplain?

                *Texts "That R Mac bitch is a fucking cunt!" to Mrs. Casual*

                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  Something something your wife on her phone something.

                  1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                    OK, I admit, I chuckled at the thought, "Yeah, I saw the text on her phone." Good one.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

        No. Rich white women imagine the wives in A Handmaid's Tale starting as unambitious evangelic husband worshippers who have always wanted to enslave women like them them out of jealousy. When your competitive advantage comes from victimhood, your superego won't let you admit you are not a victim.

        1. Terran   3 years ago

          "When your competitive advantage comes from victimhood, your superego won't let you admit you are not a victim."

          Great elucidation!

      3. Eeyore   3 years ago

        I thought it was popular for the sexual fantasy.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          The movie had Natashia Richardson, who was raving beauty back in the day. So there is that.

          1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

            She was lovely. Died too young.

            The movie missed a few bits, though I'm guessing modern Handmainds Tale followers have only seen the TV show. Almost guarantee they haven't read the book and don't understand the context (it was written at time of the Iranian Revolution, inspired by how people fight for freedom and the power vacuum gets filled by religious hardliners).

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              Died way too young. Skiing is so dangerous.

              1. Eeyore   3 years ago

                "beginner skiing lesson", damn.

      4. Ignore me!   3 years ago

        I've read it. The women enslaved into Martha or Handmaid service aren't necessarily poor people (June, the protagonist, certainly isn't), but the Commanders' wives definitely are modeled on a particular sort of patrician upper-class archetype, a particular sort of woman who back when the novel was written probably voted straight ticket Republican and would have called the cops if they saw a black person in the neighborhood not doing yardwork. Now those women mostly vote for Democrats, have those stupid "No human is illegal" signs in their yards, have copies of White Fragility and How to Be Anti-Racist on their bookshelves...and still probably would call the cops if they saw a black person in the neighborhood not doing yardwork.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The North Carolina Department of Transportation (NCDOT) is seizing a bunch of homes so the land can be used for a auto factory.

    That better be an electric car factory.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

      But the timeline here is set by VinFast and the state's desire to see it begin producing electric SUVs...

      Ah-HA!

      1. Overt   3 years ago

        There is no way this company ever makes money doing this. Rivian spent billions to develop a truck no one wants. Ford already has an e-truck that can easily be converted to an SUV...assuming there is ever demand.

        But that prediction is such a gimme, that I will make a more risky one: An electric SUV never gets off the production line in this proposed factory.

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Even money that the thing never finishes being built. 5:1 odds a car never rolls off of it. Any bets at any odds (aka free donation) that too few cars to offset the carbon footprint of (not) building it roll off the line.

        2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          The tests of the Ford e truck show it can't tow anything.

          The Results: How Far Can A Ford F-150 Lightning Tow?
          Before we answer the big question, let's set the baseline. While the EPA says the F-150 Lightning Platinum is good for 300 miles, that number is based on a mix of city and highway driving. With only a driver aboard and no trailer in tow, the Platinum achieved a MotorTrend Road-Trip Range of 255 miles.

          We had been warned to expect the range to be cut in half when towing, but the effect of towing these travel trailers proved even more significant. With the smallest and lightest trailer, we measured a range of just 115 miles. That figure fell to 100 miles with the middleweight camper and sank to a mere 90 miles with the 7,218-pound Grand Design trailer.

          https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-f150-lightning-electric-truck-towing-test/

          What good is a pickup that can't tow?

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

            It will be fine. Just find a camping site with a charging station.

            1. Idaho Bob   3 years ago

              A camping site less than 90 miles from home?

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

                Anything more than 90 miles away from a city should be given back to the Tribes anyway. Don't you know how to Prog?

              2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

                Um, is there a charging station at mile 87?

              3. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

                45 if you want to get back.

              4. R Mac   3 years ago

                There’s a campground about five miles from my house, but it’s got less trees than my yard, so what would be the point?

            2. mad.casual   3 years ago

              I believe the term is "glamping site".

          2. Eeyore   3 years ago

            During a time when there is huge backlash against the van lifers and you have to drive further and further to find legal camping.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              Hey, progressives tell us no "camping" is illegal, especially in city parks.

          3. Wizard4169   3 years ago

            I'm not sure most pickup owners regularly haul anything bigger than a few grocery bags, much less tow anything. But I agree that the truck tested was pretty useless if you are planning to tow something. It's even more pathetic when you throw in the $92k sticker price. Even if I had a spare hundred grand sitting around, I can think of lots of better ways to blow it.

            1. mpercy   3 years ago

              Pay to keep your boat at an all-service marina where you can call them and have your boat in the water waiting for you when you arrive. Better than towing it and putting it in and out, plus none of that boat ramp reversing trouble!

              Instead of that 5th-wheel, with a spare $100K, you can buy a nice little cabin in the woods somewhere.

          4. mpercy   3 years ago

            Well, technically it *can* tow, just not very far.

            1. Eeyore   3 years ago

              Hey, it can get you 50% of the way to the next charge station.

        3. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

          Of course there's demand, there's pretty much *only* demand for SUVs anymore, and there are few electric ones already on the market.

          Sure, not the full-size truck frame ones you seem to be thinking of, but I highly doubt a Vietnamese company will be making those anyway, I'm sure they'll be making compact SUVs to compete with the Tesla Models X and Y, Ford Mach-E, Hyundai Kona, etc.

          1. jimc5499   3 years ago

            "compact SUV" Isn't that an oxymoron?

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              Seriously, no.

              Once upon a time, what people started calling SUVs were all based on pickup truck chassis, e.g. the Chevy Suburban, and the early Ford Explorer. Then designers created SUVs based on car and minivan chassis. Most of the SUVs people buy today are taller versions of small to mid-size cars. The better term is CUV (cross-over utility vehicle).

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                Most of the SUVs people buy today are taller versions of small to mid-size cars.

                Which, ironically, are more of a pain in the ass to get the oil changed in than the older style hatchbacks and sedans they replaced.

            2. Longtobefree   3 years ago

              The "S" doesn't stand for supersize - - - - - -

        4. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          There is no way this company ever makes money doing this. Rivian spent billions to develop a truck no one wants.

          Bullshit, I've seen two on the streets in Seattle, if that's not a national trend, I don't know what is.

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

            Homeless homes don't count.

          2. mad.casual   3 years ago

            I've seen one in our neighborhood in Chicagoland. Between here and there, there have to be, like, 50, 100. Of course, it's about as elusive as the Fisker Karma that I've seen too. Not quite as elusive as the Rezvani Tank that cruises around town. And none are as abundant as the Porsches (ICE or EV), Lamborghinis, McClarens, Bentley SUVs, or Rolls Royces. Probably < 1 in 10 relative to the new Broncos.

            Poor Ken.

          3. Stuck in California   3 years ago

            I would want one.

            I just don't want to pay what Rivian is charging.

            Seriously it is expensive for what you get, though it's a nice package in theory. And then they raised the prices again. And therein lies the problem.

    2. SRG   3 years ago

      Lets hope the victimes take this to court, and it finds its way to the SC and give the Court a chance to overturn Kelo.

      And meanwhile, can anyone cite an example of a state government tax subsidy like this that ended up as a good deal for the state's citizens? I'm sure that there are examples out there, but I'm sceptical in general.

      1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

        You shouldn't be sure - there are none.

  5. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

    https://freebeacon.com/democrats/ron-wydens-wife-raked-in-ppp-loans-while-laying-off-hundreds/

    Libertarian hero Ron Wyden's wife raked in millions of PP loans while she laid off hundreds of employs.

    As will all leftists, the answer to all of your questions about Wyden is "money". The whole thing comes down to stealing as much money from the public as possible.

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

      When your husband is the one writing the rules, it is pretty easy to take maximum advantage without actually breaking them.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Yes it is.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Onlooker video shows police officers in Crawford County, Arkansas, beating up a man they pinned down outside a convenience store.

    Sheriff says the guy assaulted an officer to set off the melee. Witnesses claim otherwise.

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/weaponizing-bureaucracy-who-will-protect-us-governments-standing-army

  7. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    Good morning Peanuts! This is your daily reminder Biden is awesome, the economy is the strongest ever, and inflation and recession are wingnut.com lies.

    #TemporarilyFillingInForButtplug

    1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

      Phoning it in. D+

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

        But that's all Buttplug does. he hasn't had an original thought in decades.

        A-

    2. Terran   3 years ago

      It's bad enough reading him when he's here, but I can never mute you OBL, so why do you have to do this to me?

    3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      They can’t all be gems.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Two of the deputies involved "have been suspended" pending the outcome of an investigation...

    It will take months to get past the video evidence and witness testimony to get to the totality of the circumstances.

  9. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    TargetSmart found that registrations have been heavily concentrated among younger women and Democrats.

    Did you consult a biologist for this story?

    1. Terran   3 years ago

      Ha! Nice one!

  10. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

    The Libertarian moment comes to Austin.

    He has since been charged with first-degree felony murder and second-degree felony aggravated assault.

    On August 8, before he was arrested for the shooting-related charges, Ramirez was released on personal bond for the charges of unlawful carrying of a weapon and felony possession of a controlled substance from two nights before.

    Two days later, Austin Police Department (APD) ballistics analysis positively identified Ramirez’s pistol had fired the rounds. U.S. Marshalls arrested him later that day.

    Ramirez had been out of jail in Travis County since he was granted personal bond on May 27, 2022 for the June 2021 charge of unlawful possession of a firearm. Ramirez had been on the lam since the incident last year until he was arrested on May 26, 2022.

    Austin Municipal Court Associate Judge Stephen Vigorito granted the bail on the condition that Ramirez not possess any firearms or engage in criminal activity. His pretrial for that charge is set for August 26.
    https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=52337

    It was just one Mexican killing another. It is not like he killed anyone important. Murder adds to the cultural flavor of the area, sort of like food trucks.

    Reason whored itself for bail reform for years. Now that they have it in a lot of places, reason suddenly doesn't want to talk about the subject anymore.

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      #TherAreNoIllegalHumans

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      On the one hand, I’ll defend Reason because the bail reform they’ve advocated for is for non-violent and victimless crimes.

      But on the other hand, once it became clear that’s not what was happening, they didn’t bother criticizing the actual practice that was occurring because, well, they don’t criticize the people that were doing it.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        If they really were advocating for bail reform on non violent offenders, then why don't they criticize this? Sorry but they don't get the benefit of the doubt here. If they don't criticize this, and they haven't and won't, then they own it and we can safely assume they supported bail reform for all criminals not just nonviolent ones.

        1. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

          This isn't the best example of that, this guy *was* arrested for nonviolent crimes, and released, before subsequently being linked to a violent crime.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            Yes it is.

            Ramirez had been out of jail in Travis County since he was granted personal bond on May 27, 2022 for the June 2021 charge of unlawful possession of a firearm. Ramirez had been on the lam since the incident last year until he was arrested on May 26, 2022.

            If jumping bail doesn't forfeit your right to get it, what does? It is more than just violent crime. It is forcing people to show up at trial. If you want to say he deserved bail on the 2021 charge fine. But he didn't deserve bail when he refused to show up for that charge and got arrested again.

        2. R Mac   3 years ago

          “If they really were advocating for bail reform on non violent offenders, then why don't they criticize this?”

          Because they don’t criticize the people doing it. Regardless of whether they agree with it. Principals over principles.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Vietnam's government has declared homosexuality "not a disease..."

    Know who else made extensive use of tunnels?

    1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      The Morlocks?

    2. creech   3 years ago

      Alexander Cassatt?

    3. MK Ultra   3 years ago

      The residents of Stalag Luft III?

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        Talk about a Great Escape! 😉

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          With Tom, Dick, and Harry! 😉

        2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          ...With Tom, Dick, and Harry! 😉

        3. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Sorry. Though it's worth saying twice, I didn't mean to. Damn "Submit" button!

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

            You could have covered your ass by changing the last to "Hairy".

            1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

              Or claim you were “hacked”.

            2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

              Oh, but mine's not hairy. 🙂

    4. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

      The gopher from Caddyshack?

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        "Varmint Cong!" 🙂
        https://youtu.be/kmHQO-Q_wrU

    5. Terran   3 years ago

      Ulru-Ujurrians?

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        "Ulru-Ujurrians?". Is that Madea talking with a mouthful of "lur-nch?" 😉

        Seriously, I looked them up and they sound like critters after my own heart. I want one! 🙂

    6. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      Freddy Mercury?

    7. Utkonos   3 years ago

      Enver Hoxha?

  12. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

    So VinFast has to destroy a village to build it.

    Or something.

    1. Terran   3 years ago

      Well you wouldn't want a village of freely autonomous individuals that don't owe their livelihood to their feudal lord would you? That's anarchism!

      1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

        Ackshuyally, Feudalism is one form Anarchism could take under Anarcho-Capitalism and other adherents to Polyarchy, this weird notion of "competing governments, as if tyrannies would willfully operate on a voluntary subscription basis.

  13. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

    A Seattle man released from jail in July after allegedly threatening to kill a transit cop now faces murder charges over an unprovoked, caught-on-tape fatal assault on a senior citizen.

    Video allegedly shows Aaron Fulk, 48, strike 66-year-old Rodney Peterman with a metal pole in broad daylight Aug. 2 at Pike Street and Third Avenue, according to KOMO News.

    Fulk kept striking Peterman after the older man collapsed unconscious, fracturing his skull, according to police.

    https://nypost.com/2022/08/21/footage-shows-man-fatally-beat-senior-citizen-in-seattle-cops/

    You know, maybe everyone who is arrested isn't an innocent pot user caught in possession. In fact, there might be people out there you really don't want to meet and belong in jail.

    Hey, lets let everyone out on bail because we don't know if they are guilty. If one of those people murders someone, well that is just another egg in the big gay, transgender, libertarian omelet.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      #EmptyThePrisons

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Left Libertarians and ancaps are some of the most useless idiots on earth.

      2. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        ...into the ocean.

      3. Utkonos   3 years ago

        Wait, we released the Marquis de Sade? Sacre bleu!!

    2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      When I said I wanted criminal justice reform, I wanted to release nonviolent drug offenders. I didn't want to reduce criminal populations at all cost. Violent people deserve to be locked up.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        I agree with you. The problem is that it wasn't people like you and me doing the reforming. It was leftists who wanted the exact opposite to happen. Rather than recognizing that, reason went right along with the leftists and served as useful idiots.

        1. Michael Ejercito   3 years ago

          Note that thesde are the same people pushing for stricter gun control laws.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            Yes. They want to end police protection and also make it illegal for law abiding citizens to defend themselves against criminals. The whole point is to make people as defenseless as possible.

            1. Cyto   3 years ago

              Can't rebuild a racist society of people feel safe

      2. Moonrocks   3 years ago

        That's what you get for wishing on the monkey's pox.

        1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          Nice!

      3. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        At this point, space is so dear in state prisons that almost everyone there is a violent or sexual offender. If you want to significantly lower prison populations, you have to advocate shorter sentences for those offenders.

    3. SRG   3 years ago

      The same argument can be made concerning gun control

      Your sarcastic comment can easily be rewritten: "Hey, lets let everyone buy a gun because we don't know if they are going to use it illegally. If one of those people murders someone, well that is just another egg in the big right-wing sovcit omelet."

      2A is no more special than 8A.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        No the same argument can't be made you moron. Everyone hasn't been arrested for a violent crime. You only get arrested because there is probable cause to believe you did the crime. That doesn't mean you are innocent. It does mean that there is a good reason to think you are guilty.

        So, no you can't say the same thing about gun control. Try again dipshit.

        1. SRG   3 years ago

          Except 8A says nothing about guilt, you moron. Preventing excessive bail means that randomly someone the Constitution requires you to release will reoffend

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            There was no bail in this case, you fucking retard. We have had large bail and no bail for violent offenders for the entire history of the country. Take the word "excessive" think about what it means and then shove it up your ass and use it as a crowbar to get your head out of there.

      2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Srg is shrike.

        1. SRG   3 years ago

          Fuck off, peasant. I'm not shrike.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Whatever you say, shrike.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              Other turds of wisdom from R Mac include "I know you are but what am I?" "Stop hitting yourself!" "Don't touch me!" and "Are we there yet?"

              1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                Hi sarcasmic.
                I quoted R Mac in the past so you have to credit me now even for your fake quotes.

                Hey, you made the rule.

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  I made a joke. Retards took me seriously. More at eleven.

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    Haha, I can assure you no one’s taking you seriously.

                    1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Says the guy who stays up all night trying to think up clever things, but ends up repeating what he hears when he creepily spies on playgrounds.

                    2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Was that a joke? You decide.

                    3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      "I was deliberately being retarded! It was a joke!"

                    4. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      You were? That explains a lot.

                    5. R Mac   3 years ago

                      I suppose it was an attempt.

                    6. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Bob Marley LIVE!!

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-voyk2gpZs

                      Saw the guy once. Good show.

                    7. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Not that show. Watching it for the first time. Dude's so Mainah.
                      If you read lots of Stephen King books, this guy might make sense.

                    8. R Mac   3 years ago

                      Shitfaced by 4, huh sarc?

                    9. R Mac   3 years ago

                      sarcasmic
                      August.22.2022 at 12:37 pm
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      Other turds of wisdom from R Mac include "I know you are but what am

                      sarcasmic
                      August.22.2022 at 2:46 pm
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      You were? That explains a lot.

              2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

                The evergreen "Caw! Caw!". Boy, R Mac really showed me up with that one!

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  R Mac is the obnoxious kid in a Peanuts cartoon.

                2. R Mac   3 years ago

                  It was particularly funny that months later you still never got the reference and started calling me a misogynist Dee.

                3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  R Mac really showed me up with that one

                  He actually kind of did.

      3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        So letting someone out on bail who has been caught on camera assaulting a stranger is the same as letting people buy guns?

        Dude, that's weapons-grade stupid.

    4. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      I'm still unclear on what bail reform is arguing for. Is it that more things should allow for bail? I thought Reason was arguing for getting rid of bail all-together and having charges to either require the suspect to be jailed, or to be released without charge.
      I have different thoughts on those two scenarios.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        I may be wrong, but I don't recall Reason ever advocating for getting rid of bail. I remember them reporting that there are some people advocating for getting rid of bail.

    5. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Hey now! Don't put Prison Abolition off on Gays, Transgenders or Libertarians!

      While I am all for exonerating and releasing people convicted of strictly victimless acts, those people who are "too mean for the peoples" need to stay the Hell in!

      I would even favor bringing back exile for people who only live to prey upon others. Give them a man-made island with a big enough eco-system for one, patrolled on all sides by satellites, gunships, and drones.

      Give them access to an online law library, Nexus-Lexus archive, and an Attorney if they want to try and argue innocence in court, but other than that, no contact with other human beings and the rule is "Root, Hog, or Die!"

    6. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Hey now! Don't put the ridiculous notion of Prison Abolition off on LGBTQs, Transgenders or Libertarians!

      While I am all for exonerating and releasing people convicted of strictly victimless acts, those people who are "too mean for the peoples" need to stay the Hell in!

      I would even favor bringing back exile for people who only live to prey upon others. Give them a man-made island with a big enough eco-system for one, patrolled on all sides by satellites, gunships, and drones.

      Give them access to an online law library, Nexus-Lexus archive, and an Attorney if they want to try and argue innocence in court, but other than that, no contact with other human beings and the rule is "Root, Hog, or Die!"

    7. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      Sorry. The "Submit" button isn't working for me today.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Maybe a sign?

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          A sign that my pad takes forever to connect to the Wi-Fi. No "boogums-in-the-closet" here.

  14. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

    I have noted that overturning Roe would be a large social experiment and there seems to be evidence that this is happening. SCOTUS handed the right to regulate abortion back to the states. Many states now have the opportunity but have not accepted that they must now regulate in a way that is in line with the majority opinion within the state. I don't think woman prochoice or prolife will accept this and will demand some measure of reason.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Somebody who knows what’s best better than the majority?

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

      Drunken troll ramblings. Monday morning comes early, eh?

    3. Liberty_Belle   3 years ago

      I don't want the state in my private affairs any more than I want the feds in my private affairs. This really should be an individual's decision and government can keep it's nose out of it. Ideally, abortion should be decriminalized and that's only as much as any government body gets to say on the matter.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Does the state have an interest in keeping people from abusing their children?

        1. Liberty_Belle   3 years ago

          Yes. But depending on where you are going with this, we may disagree on when a child exists. Which is exactly my point, the government sets the "floor" limit on something observable, like when the circulatory & respiratory systems can sustain life outside womb; everything before that time is up to the woman to decide for herself (without government intervention) what she believes. *Poof* Everyone's beliefs are respected more the less government gets involved.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            At some point the decision needs to be decided what is “the floor” though, and I’d rather that decision be made at the state than federal level.

            1. Liberty_Belle   3 years ago

              I could see that point of view. But doesn't that make it much more difficult to get "equal protection under the law" if the law changes from state to state ? And separately, some fanatical states have already had to be scolded by SCOTUS from trying to make it illegal to travel out of state to get something done where it is legal; threatening legal action when you returned home. I would think that doing it at the fed level (in this case) would be the best leverage with the least amount of force to get it all done. But, I will be the first to admit I have no idea what is the "best" way to get it handled.

  15. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    Hugo Chavez and socialism are being "erased from the Caracas skyline," says Bloomberg. In their place: ads for makeup, phones, and jeans.

    Too bad nobody can afford those things.

  16. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

    From that Bloomberg article:

    “It’s like the government wants to eliminate Chavez from the memory of the people.”

    Which, of course, is NEVER something that happens under socialism. They don't just try to unperson people or edit history. But according to that article, it's some wicked capitalistic influence removing Chavez.

    “Political ideology has been replaced by a drive for consumption,” said Jose Carvajal, director of Ciudad Laboratorio, an urban studies think tank in Caracas. Socialist iconic billboards promoting the idea that Venezuela “belonged to everyone,’’ he said, have given way to a Dubai- or Miami-style landscape, with rows of palm trees along its main highway. In many ways, it marks something of a return to the pre-Chavez era, when multinationals hawked products of all stripes on billboards across Caracas. “Now Venezuela, like never before, belongs to a few who can succeed.”

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Political ideology has been replaced by a drive for consumption,” said Jose Carvajal, director of Ciudad Laboratorio, an urban studies think tank in Caracas.

      The government starving you to death and reducing you to eating your pets to survive will do that. If you are not willing to starve to death for the greater good, it is because you are just a greedy consumerist. This is what these evil fuckers actually believe.

    2. mad.casual   3 years ago

      “Now Venezuela, like never before, belongs to a few who can succeed.”

      ^In case you're wondering if American media outlets can get any more detached.

      1. BYODB   3 years ago

        Yeah, because the entire nation being controlled by a cabal of lunatics wasn't necessarily people who could succeed so PolitiFact rates this as 'mostly true' since they inevitably failed.

        Obviously it wasn't true socialism since they failed, so they need to double down and socialist harder. It really is the obvious solution.

        /sarc

    3. Overt   3 years ago

      What the fuck ever happened to Bloomberg?

      Chavez SHOULD be memory-holed. Why would you fret about it?

      And notice once again the tired old cliche about "drive for consumption". Why is it that elites always hate it when people (*GASP*) consume goods and services?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        It's not the consoooooooooooooooming in principle that bothers them, it's the lack of consoooooooooooooooming the accepted products of the Cathedral.

        One need only look at Hollywood's constant bellyaching these days that a large chunk of Americans don't want to watch their woke PC drek, no matter how much the entertainment media tongue-bathes it.

        1. Ignore me!   3 years ago

          Does Hollywood care, though? The people who make woke garbage seem only to care that they get the media tongue bath. If normies avoid their output in droves, that just allows them to call audiences bigots and play the victim. It's a badge of honor.

        2. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          see: SheHulk

          Not even released and there's a stack of women calling potential fans racists and misogynists.

          Of course I'm not going to stream that.

          I don't need to give money to people who treat me with contempt. I have the government for that.

        3. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

          Or look at the gate they give independent creators.

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Again, the 'like never before, belongs to a few who can succeed' is astounding. Like Venezuela was 98% people in hilltop mansions driving 15 cars until the Chavez posters came down.

      3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        Disagree. Chavez should not be memory-holed, he needs to be rubbed in the faces of every Venezuelan that put him in office. And the Venezuelans (and Nicaraguans) who are slithering up here as refugees need to be sent back good and hard.

    4. SRG   3 years ago

      Before Chavez and his ilk, Venezuela was AAA-rated by S&P, and I am sure that there are Venezuelans who remember what Venezuela was like pre- and during. Verily, Chavez will not be forgotten.

      Pity that the US fucked up in dealing with Venezuela, of course. Chavez would have lasted for far less time if he hadn't had the propaganda advantage of being able to blame (wrongly) the poor economy on the US

    5. Roberta   3 years ago

      "A drive for consumption" in the sense of tuberculosis?

  17. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Hugo Chavez and socialism are being "erased from the Caracas skyline...

    Chavezgrad is now known as Saint Miguel Cabreraburg.

    1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      Is that where the Ugeth Urbina Correctional Facility is housed?

  18. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Rather than immediately pull over, [the woman] turned on her emergency lights and kept driving in order to find a well-lit area...

    Obedience or violence. What part of the binary didn't she understand.

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/facebook-fact-check-censors-factual-claim-irs-arming-agents-use-deadly-force

    2. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      Sounds like she made the right call.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Teachers in Columbus, Ohio, are going on strike.

    Read the room.

  20. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/08/over-1000-scientists-and-professionals-sign-formal-declaration-there-is-no-climate-emergency/

    Over 1000 scientists and professionals sign formal declaration that there is no climate emergency.

    I guess science will no longer be done by consensus anymore.

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      I'm always skeptical when I see "...and related professionals." I'm not convinced there's a vigorous screening process for credentials there. For instance, some of the US signees include a comic book artist, a nutritional counselor, a Philosophy professor, a special-ed teacher, and a former pilot for United Airlines.

      That's not to say they're wrong, but it's the issue of mass petitions like this. Simply putting your name on something doesn't mean you've actually studied the topic properly. Even experts who have done studies end up crafting the study to drive confirmation bias. The way to get to the truth isn't by gaining a ton of signatures, but by looking at the specific claims critically and seeing which arguments are most supported by the evidence.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        I am as well. In this case, however, this is important because it disputes the claim that everyone who knows anything believes in this lunacy. This is important not because a thousand or two thousand or however many people signed it. It is important because it shows that the "consensus" is nonexistent bullshit.

      2. JimboJr   3 years ago

        they were happy to use the same when it was "hundreds of 'doctors' signing on to say Joe Rogan is being an evil man" despite the fact that most signing the petition were in fact not actual physicians.

        It doesnt make it right, but this is their tactic.

        But regardless, the left will do what it does with every situation, apply double standard, ignore.

        Blasey-Ford and the crazy chick Avenatti found (Swetnik) were proof Kavanaugh did it because they were 'credible' accusers. Tara Reid's story was immediately written off because she was 'not credible' despite being pretty much on the level of Swetnik.

        Theyll do the same with any scientists that criticize climate change. Whether they are credible or not, theyll get demonized

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          Good enough for Reason Magazine

        2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          The Joe Rogan thing amazes me. The guy is a liberal who hates Trump. And all he did was get sick with COVID and tell the truth about how his doctors treated him. In return for that, the major media slandered him as some kind of nut taking horse medicine.

          1. Ignore me!   3 years ago

            My daughter recently asked me what I thought about Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro. When I said I wasn't that familiar with either one except through their involvement in various recent controversies, my #feminist sister put in that Rogan was a right winger and anti-science because he opposed vaccines. I said that Rogan, so far as I knew, described himself as a liberal and claimed to have been vaccinated, she just said, "No he isn't." "Liberal" for my sister means "progressive." For people like her, you're not on the team unless you do and say what the rest of the team does and says.

        3. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

          In one of my NYC mandated anti-sexual harassment trainings, someone mentioned Biden and the flute player. The trainer not only called Biden sniffing her hair sexual harassment, but also pointed out that Biden committed sexual assault by placing his hands on her shoulders.

          What's the odds that the trainer voted for Biden.

          1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

            … committed sexual assault by placing his hands on her shoulders.

            Lock him up!

        4. Cyto   3 years ago

          Reide was not on the level of swetnick. They had conte!poraneous accounts.

      3. JesseAz   3 years ago

        The great Barrington declaration was similar. And also correct.

        The list of names here includes some Nobel laureates and other well known climate scientists.

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          There are no rules, only weapons

      4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Hmm, so what should we think when the "experts" who endorse a crisis are all paid from money thrown at solving the crisis?

    2. SRG   3 years ago

      Their CO2 point is highly misleading - perhaps designed to fool the ignorant into thinking that rising CO2 will be a good thing. Falso in unum...

      As far as Nobelists are concerned, there is only one, Ivar Giaever, who is not a climatologist.

      Let's take the first 10
      1. Ian Plimer, Professor Earth Sciences, The University of Melbourne; WCD Ambassador: geologist, not a climatologist
      2. Viv Forbes, Geologist with Special Interest in Climate, Founder of http://www.carbon-sense.com, Queensland, Australia; WCD Ambassador: geologist, not a climatologist
      3. D. Weston Allen, Physician and Medical Director of Kingscliff Health, New South Wales, Author of a number of Climate-related papers: clearly not a climatologist
      4. Don Andersen, Retired Teacher, Programmer: clearly not a climatologist
      5. David Archibald, Research Scientist: cancer researcher, not a climatologist
      6. Michael Asten, Retired Professor in Geophysics and Continuing Senior Research: Fellow at the Monash University, Melbourne: genuine related expertise, and IPCC reviewer
      7. József Balla, retired teacher and manager of a small business: clearly not a climatologist
      8. Stuart Ballantyne PhD, Senior Ship Designer, Sea Transport Corp.: clearly not a climatologist
      9. Jeremy Barlow, Energy and Mining professional, Director and CEO: clearly not a climatologist
      10. Dr. Colin M. Barton, Geologist, Retired Civil Engineer with Experience in Project Control, Research and Professional Training, Honorary Fellow RMIT University Australia: clearly not a climatologist

      Not exactly an impressive array of domain-specific expertise

      I recall Einstein's comment on being told that 100 German scientists had written a petition saying that relativity was scheissdreck. He responded, "if I am wrong, one would be enough".

      Meanwhile, as I have noted before, there is a sector of the financial industry which has an overwhelming financial incentive to get the science right. They have their own highly-paid climate scientists. If any company in this sector thinks that GW isn't a problem but it is, the company will be at risk of going belly-up. If if thinks that, per genuine scientific consensus, it is a problem but the consensus is wrong, as some of you think, while the other companies in the sector with their unbiased scientists think that it's not a problem, they will also be at risk of, if not going belly-up, at least having a massive loss of revenue.

      In other words, this sub-sector is the perfect private and market-driven impartial indicator or lodestone.

      Isn't that who you would want as an indicator? Neither grant-driven left-wing agenda-ed scientists, nor scientists getting funding from climate sceptics or self-interested industry. Just "what's the reality?"

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Meanwhile, as I have noted before, there is a sector of the financial industry which has an overwhelming financial incentive to get the science right. They have their own highly-paid climate scientists. If any company in this sector thinks that GW isn't a problem but it is, the company will be at risk of going belly-up. If if thinks that, per genuine scientific consensus, it is a problem but the consensus is wrong, as some of you think, while the other companies in the sector with their unbiased scientists think that it's not a problem, they will also be at risk of, if not going belly-up, at least having a massive loss of revenue.

        That is the dumbest I have ever read. It is like saying that woke movies must be popular because Hollywood execs know the market best and wouldn't be producing them otherwise. The history of the last 30 years has been one of one industry after another being run in the ground in the name of their CEO's woke virtue signaling. If you think the guys running Black Rock give a flying fuck about getting the science right and are not just buying into an excuse for global socialism, then there isn't much anyone can do to help you because your stupid is terminal

        Just stop talking now. Really, stop talking.

        1. SRG   3 years ago

          You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, because you don't know what subsector I'm talking about.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            I know exactly what I am talking about. It is called ESG numbnuts.

            1. SRG   3 years ago

              I never specified which subsector of the financial industry. You assumed it was asset management, hence your irrelevant Blackrock and ESG references. I was talking about a significant but little-known subsector, the reinsurance industry. I don't blame you for not knowing about it, as not many people do.

              You should stick to designing sports cars

      2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

        If you think rising CO2, ie plant food, and the associated greening of the Sahara and the rest of the world, is bad, then feel free to stop exhaling.

        1. SRG   3 years ago

          Rising CO2 up to a point may be good for plants. It's unhealthy for animals. And the benefits of rising CO2 for plants can be offset by the adverse effects of rising temperatures on plants. Do you think that recent droughts are only coincidental?

          A good overview for plants showing that rising CO2 levels may indeed be beneficial, but noting that some plant species lose out

          https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/effects-of-rising-atmospheric-concentrations-of-carbon-13254108/

          and for animals - not so good:
          https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/global-atmospheric-change-and-animal-populations-13254648/

        2. BYODB   3 years ago

          If you think CO2 is a problem, note that life as we know it ends on Earth at around 170PPM CO2 and it's been proven to be at several thousand PPM in the past when life was at it's most diverse and covered the entire planet.

          Also notable are all the 'hunger stones' that are uncovered in Europe that some are claiming is a sign of climate warming when, notably, those stones were put in the ground during similar circumstances several hundred or even thousand years before industrialization was a thing.

          It's fine to note that the climate changes, because it does, but to claim humanity is the primary driver of that process is hubris at it's finest.

          1. SRG   3 years ago

            at several thousand PPM in the past when life was at it's most diverse and covered the entire planet.

            With 100% humidity and dragonflies with 30" wingspans and overall conditions utterly unsuited for human habitation. And IIRC no polar icecaps, hence much of what is presently dry land would be flooded...

            "Oxygen is vital for humans!" "Great, let me drink this large bottle of hydrogen peroxide - must be even healthier than regular water!:

            1. VinniUSMC   3 years ago

              "Oxygen is vital for humans!" "Great, let me drink this large bottle of hydrogen peroxide - must be even healthier than regular water!:

              Yes, we get it, you're a moron.

    3. Foo_dd   3 years ago

      make sure you don't look up any of the people who signed it.... a quick check reveals a good percentage of them are paid by fossil fuel companies..... it might ruin your narrative if people knew that.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Yeah because no one ever made any money advocating for AGW. Nope, they are as clean as the driven snow.

        Beyond that, maybe the fossil fuel companies have a point? Ever think of that you fucking pagan moron?

      2. BYODB   3 years ago

        'A good percentage' meaning that you don't know the percentage and looked up a handful of names that confirmed your bias and you stopped looking?

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          I’ll bet a dollar on that.

  21. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/08/21/new-cnn-ceo-tells-employees-you-might-not-like-or-understand-whats-coming-n1622715

    CNN boss tells employees "you might not like or understand what is coming". How funny would it be if CNN went full OAN?

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Or out of business.

    2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      I honestly don't know how I would fix CNN at this point. The issue is credibility, but nobody is going to notice if CNN keeps doing the same thing is wrong a smaller percentage of the time. So the way to signal changes is to latch onto something sensational and drive traffic that way, but the overly sensationalist model is what has tanked their credibility in the first place.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        You could start by just telling the truth or at least making an honest effort to do so. That would at least offer something that no one else is offering.

        1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          Do CNN viewers want the truth, or do they want to be told that they were right all along?

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            CNN really doesn't have many viewers to lose. There are plenty of viewers out there who would be interested in the truth. Granted, they are very unlikely to be watching the network now. Considering how few people actually do watch CNN now, losing them is probably a risk worth taking.

            1. SRG   3 years ago

              There are plenty of viewers out there who would be interested in the truth.

              I agree. I think that the general news problem is that, first, very many viewers are like the proverbial wife/GF asking "does my bum look big in this?" Do they really want the truth or do they want to hear what they want the truth to be? It is plausible that these viewers outnumber the genuinely reality-orientated viewers, and so news stations will be affected at the very least with a kind of institutional subconscious bias. And second, it's the selection of true news. A news source can be both highly partisan and 100% accurate simply by choosing which news to report.

          2. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

            Judging by how they're hemorrhaging viewers while placing like Substack grow by leaps and bounds, I would say at least some of them do.

            1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

              *places

              On Substack, there's an edit button!

          3. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

            If the CNN powers-that-be actually believed in their DNC-led positions, they would also believe that the truth would be enough. The fact that they have had to lie, obfuscate, cover up, and spout political points, and lost viewership, also ought to convince them that the truth alone would be enough.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        I honestly don't know how I would fix CNN at this point.

        Start with the low hanging fruit. Start by firing the Brian Stelters and the Chris Cuomos and Don Lemons. Focus on straight news shows while you develop new talking head shows that don't have to be crazy-pants biased. Although an evening talk show that's biased towards Democrats isn't a tragedy, in fact it's fine.

        Warn that anyone caught modifying the news- (ie color changing a-la Joe Rogan Hillary Clinton DNC acceptance speech type stuff) will be fired on the spot. We don't "modify the news" here at CNN, period. The end.

        Review your hiring process. Understand HOW and why your organization hired Brian Stelter and make sure that never happens again. (fyi, people have actually tried to figure out HOW or WHY Stelter was hired and no one's been able to do it. Before his "Reliable Sources" show he like, ran a website or something.)

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          Oh, I almost forgot. No personal relationships with high ranking Democrats (or Republicans-- I don't want to see CNN go MAGA) and again, anyone fraternizing with party officials or taking talking points from same will be fired on the spot.

          As they used to say when I worked for a Defense Contractor 100 years ago, you don't just avoid just impropriety, you avoid the PERCEPTION of impropriety.

        2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          One of the many hypocritical things about the TV newsmedia is how they claim to be all woke and feminist yet put put any woman who works for them out to pasture once they hit 40 or go above a size four but hire complete toads like Stetler and Jeffrey Toobin. There is literally no standard for appearances of male TV news figures. As a group, they are some of the most physically unattractive people on earth. Yet, only skinny, hot, and young women ever get in front of the camera and they are always wearing some form of tight fighting evening wear. The networks are feminist and progressive like that.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          fyi, people have actually tried to figure out HOW or WHY Stelter was hired and no one's been able to do it. Before his "Reliable Sources" show he like, ran a website or something.)

          Guys like Stelter get their jobs because they have connections within industry that might not be readily apparent. The website wasn't as important as his gig with the New York Times was, which probably is what brought him into Jeffrey Zucker's orbit at mutual media events and parties, especially as fellow Democrats.

          1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

            Right, but holy cow, you look at his Wiki page and it's "Brian Stelter became a political reporter at the NYT at 22 yrs old... then he was the host of Reliable Sources on CNN!"

            So... what happened between those two things.

            1. JimboJr   3 years ago

              lots of fluffing

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

              Good question. For someone who's so high-profile, there's a notable lack of biographical information on the guy, unless there's a deep-dive New Yorker piece out there on him that I'm not aware of.

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                He was on Red Eye once.

        4. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

          Brain Stelter will land on his feet at Weekly World News, where he'll be immortalized in The Further Adventures of Batboy.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            I'm sure he'll end up at MSNBC at some point. That's his natural home, anyway.

    3. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Wikipedia says Licht suffered an aneurysm and that Biden himself, then VP, personally called his own doctor to treat Licht.

      I expect "New CNN - Same great MiniTrue flavor, now with less Trump."

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Maybe he wants to make money. There is always that possibility. If he does, then he won't be doing what you describe.

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Something about the Journalism/Poli Sci degrees doesn't scream "I'm just here to make money." to me.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            Keep in mind, before Zucker decided that CNN needed to be openly ideological, it was a pretty bland news network run by old-line Silent Generation journos. It was mainly notable for running the same 30-60 minute news broadcast on repeat, with minimal updates even after it became a Big Thing during Desert Storm.

    4. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      CNN's parent company also just axed a $100 million movie because it sucked. Sounds like they're amputating a lot of rotting limbs.

    5. JimboJr   3 years ago

      they will basically continue on so long as package cable deals continue to keep them afloat.

      Honestly if people could get ESPN and most major sports without getting the parasite channels thrown in, they wouldn't be kept afloat at all. Their viewership would crater even more, basically being on in airports.

      They are existing because they automatically come with package deals and get money from that, plus the advertisers that will stay with them to get some revenue from the few boomers watching.

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        ill add to that my internet company basically makes me buy cable. The package I have (the highest speed) comes bundled with cable and I cant change that. So even to say fuck it I just want internet, they have the highest 2 tiers bundled with cable.

        So I unfortunately am also helping keep them afloat

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Honestly if people could get ESPN and most major sports without getting the parasite channels thrown in, they wouldn't be kept afloat at all.

        A la carte cable would absolutely nuke 90% of the channels out there. ESPN probably wouldn't even survive for long without Sugar Disney pumping in bucks to keep it afloat, because other than the morning yak shows, late-night Sportscenter, and college football, what audience do they really have? The NCAA would probably make more money just setting up its own streaming channel and giving the schools a cut of the cash.

  22. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    The American Conservative says Salman Rushdie deserved it, complains that his skirt was too short.

    1. Ajsloss   3 years ago

      Hot ankles.

    2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      That wasn't Rod Dreyer himself writing that but it is Dreyer's magazine. So, it is fair to assume he agrees with it or it wouldn't have been published. What a piece of shit Dreyer is and always has been.

      1. SRG   3 years ago

        I don't think Dreher always was a POS - I even had a pleasant private exchange of emails with him a few years back - but in recent years he's become increasingly hysterical. In short, it's vile and evil and disgusting for one man to love another man..,unless the other man is Viktor Orban.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Yet at the same time, Dreher hates Trump and hates his supporters even more than the man himself. It is totally wrong to care about your country and think that its government should put the interests of its people first unless you are a Hungarian. Then it is totally okay.

          Dreyer is one of those people that Trump broke. He has just lost his mind. He is also one of those people like Mark Steyn who seems to have a fetish with losing and thinking all is lost.

          1. SRG   3 years ago

            I think he's reconciled to Trump at this point, like a Catholic bishop deciding after all to take donations from a Mob boss. But you're right, he's lost his mind. I hesitate to go too personal on this but I have to wonder whether his divorcing (he's gone public about it without providing reasons) is all part of this mental change.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              If he has reconciled to Trump, I haven't seen it.

              1. SRG   3 years ago

                He's not engaged in lurv-fest, but he is not exactly uncomfortable with him.

                See this, for example. Definitely has the flavour of "notwithstanding his faults, he's our guy".

                https://www.theamericanconservative.com/trump-our-late-roman-moment/

            2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

              He's divorcing? Does this mean his "Benedict Option" didn't succeed from stopping him from Gay-marrying? 😉

              1. SRG   3 years ago

                Always wonder about some who's so vociferously anti-gay...

        2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          And Putin. Dreher, Orbán, and Putin should have a threesome, with Dreher as the pivot man.

    3. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      I thought that was a Bee headline at first.

    4. Nardz   3 years ago

      https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/forget-free-speech-rushdies-fatwa-winning

    5. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      The American Conservative? Holy crap.

    6. Overt   3 years ago

      Uh where did they say he deserved it?

      "No, he didn’t deserve to be stabbed last week. That should go without saying. But getting stabbed doesn’t make him a hero, either."

      That's the point they were making- if you walk around mocking people, one day you are going to get punched. Should we lionize you because you finally got punched?

      I don't think that is terribly controversial to say.

      That said, the difference here is that Rushdie published this book ("Insulting someone's mother") 30 years ago. And that family has been on the hunt for him ever since. So it isn't necessarily like he is walking around day in and day out insulting people.

      1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

        I actually do think you should lionize those people. Rushdie's the one who has now paid the cost for free speech. He even quotes the "can't say fire in a crowded theater" line, which, we must always remind people, was said in the context of a SC case on whether a communist could pass out anti-draft pamphlets during WW1.

        The author of that article is in every meaningful way anti-free speech. His argument that Rushdie shouldn't have said those things if he didn't want to get physically attacked makes explicit that a protected class of people exist, worse somehow it basically turns Islam into a cult of animals who can't be expected to not murder when their feelings are hurt.

        In the article, the author says this:

        Later, Cooke mentions the Charlie Hebdo shooting of 2015. The comparison is apt, but not for the reason he thinks. The magazine’s offices were targeted by radical Muslims over their crude, satirical drawings of Mohammed. Twelve people died in the attack, while eleven more were injured.
        And what was the point of it all? For what cause did those twelve give their lives? The answer is, insulting Muslims. Speaking to the press after the attack, Charlie Hebdo’s editor said they would go on mocking the faith “until Islam is just as banal as Catholicism.” That’s it. But dying for a cause doesn’t make it right.

        The author is pulling an obnoxious slight of hand here. He is conflating the question of whether their speech was right, with whether their right to pronounce that speech was right. Above that he also willfully misconstrues an argument made by Charles Cooke about this, once again, conflating the idea that support for Rushdie being allowed to say things without living under threat of being murdered for 30 years with support for the arguments Rushdie made.

        The author of this article is either doing one of two things:
        He's either making a banal argument that one does not need to agree with what Rushdie said, even if one disagrees with him being attacked for saying it. If that was the author's intent, then fine, but he should say so with a lot less throat-clearing around "What should Rushdie have expected to happen?" because it weakens his position and does nothing but give material aid to the fundamentally anti-free speech mindset of the attacker.
        Or we take him at his word. He was a fool for talking. We should all understand that we should not say things that offend people, especially people who are willing to act on it. At this point, this is an argument that one should avoid unpopular speech, and that is anti-free speech plain and simple. There's no free speech without a culture that lionizes the rights of those holding unpopular opinions. You've never needed permission to praise the powers-that-be anyway.

        1. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

          The final two paragraphs of the article say this:
          I don’t want the kind of freedom Rushdie’s supporters are offering, and neither should you. It erases any distinction between beauty and ugliness, between good and evil, between truth and lies. It is the enemy of poetry, art, music, romance, community, worship—of everything that makes us human. It is the freedom to scoff and sneer, never to love or hate. And while it may keep us safe from death, it gives us no reason to live.
          Natural rights do exist. But only because so does human nature. If we ignore the latter, we are sure to lose the former. If we force men to choose between liberty and loyalty, most will choose loyalty. So, you can write endless blog posts insisting on your First Amendment right to insult other people’s mothers. But if you try to exercise that right, you are going to get clocked.

          I cannot read this in anyway that defends free speech. At best, it defends something closer to speech the author considers correct, or at least disallows speech the author considers bad. And once again, that is not, in any way, free-speech.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            I am at a loss to understand why not murdering someone who does something ugly or bad or disrespectful to your religion "erases any distinction between beauty and ugliness". That paragraph is idiotic. No one is saying that Rushdie is a good writer or that what is said was right or wrong. They are just saying that whatever he said no one has a right to murder him over it.

            What kind of freedom is this clown offering? It looks to me like it is the freedom to express only those things that someone somewhere has decided is not acceptable and justification for my murder. I am dumfounded at how stupid this article is.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              Face it. Many people hold some belief, place, person, etc. sacred. They might support some degree of liberty, but only until it threatens their sacred cow. Then they get all jihaddy.

      2. Nardz   3 years ago

        You might want to read the zerohedge article, overt

    7. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      If this Michael Warren Davis wants to clock somebody for a perceived insult to his precious Mom or his precious religion, he might get his Hipster beard jerked with his head cracked on somebody's knee.

      This man literally wants to bring back Dark Ages "honor culture," where grown-ass men fight in the streets over gash!

      Fuck Off, Rasputin! Chivalry is dead and may it feed the worms!

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        This man literally wants to bring back Dark Ages "honor culture," where grown-ass men fight in the streets over gash!

        That is a great way to put it. It is more than a bit ironic that this guy would last like ten seconds in such a world before he was either dead or someone's bitch.

      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        This man literally wants to bring back Dark Ages "honor culture," where grown-ass men fight in the streets over gash!

        Don't make it sound so fun. I remember being 21 after the nightclubs closed.

  23. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    Milk is Racist.

    1. Sevo   3 years ago

      Oh, goody! More sage advice from 13 yo kids!

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   3 years ago

        Some kids will say anything to not drink milk.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      What about chocolate milk?

      1. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

        A race traitor. No more milk in the chocolate.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

          Uncle Milk.

  24. Michael Ejercito   3 years ago

    "The number of mass killings in 2022 is about average compared with previous years despite recent shootings that captured public attention," USA Today reports. "The number of victims is somewhat higher than average but still below previous highs."

    Yeah, let us ignore the increase in inner city violence in the past two years. One type of murder has remained steady these past sixteen years, and that is all that counts. /sarc

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      I think we can get those numbers up. Perhaps we just aren’t trying anymore.

    2. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      More people were murdered in Chicago over the weekend it happened than were murdered by the lunatic who drove the car into the Christmas parade. Yet, somehow, everyone is shocked and appalled by the parade murders but couldn't care less that literally 50 or 60 people get shot in Chicago every single weekend and have been for years on end now.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        It’s not possible. Chicago has very strict gun laws, therefore nobody is getting shot in Chicago.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          And what parade "murders"?

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 years ago

        Actually, I recall there being very little curiosity from the MSM about why that red SUV drove through that parade.

        Maybe if we had common sense internal combustion engine control……

  25. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    Budget cutbacks can be effective, but apparently not when performed by woke maniacs for religious reasons.

    Start: The Baltimore City Council eliminated $22 million from the police budget.

    Finish: Baltimore On Pace For Possible Record Murders As Local NAACP Asks Governor To Deploy National Guard.

  26. Sevo   3 years ago

    "Hugo Chavez and socialism are being "erased from the Caracas skyline," says Bloomberg. In their place: ads for makeup, phones, and jeans."

    Very few post-commie governments move far from some sort of planned economy; let's see if the Venezuelans get lucky.

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      Especially when the guy they elected is still definitely a communist. He’s just editing photos to get rid of references to the more popular communist.

      1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

        Increase the chocolate ration and blame everything on the "cult of personality" that surrounded your predecessor. It works for a while but once you admit that the previous dear leader was a failure, everyone stops believing in the system and it is just a matter of time before it falls. This is basically the equivalent of Kruschev's 1956 speech admitting that Stalin was a tyrant. It didn't happen immediately, but most people agree that was the beginning of the end of the old Soviet Union.

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          The middle point of something is necessarily the beginning of the end

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            True. So, at least Venezuela's nightmare has reached its midpoint.

    2. BestUsedCarSales   3 years ago

      That article mentioned "memory-holing" Chavez as well. It mentions it as if it's a good thing. I think that's probably a bad move. Getting past something is not memory-holing, and often it's the opposite. I think the failure of the post-Soviet world was an unwillingness to look long and hard at why the system failed, and forcing people everywhere to look at it and grapple with the fact of the matter.

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        We don’t pretend Jimmy Carter never happened.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          I bet corporate media is going to try to pretend Biden never happened.

  27. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    Some Canadian provinces are noting that "Unknown causes" suddenly became the leading cause of death in 2021.

    I know what you anti-science, racist transphobes are thinking but it's definitely not because of that. Don't even go there or I'll have you blocked from Twitter.

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      Well, that's mysterious. Even moreso...

      The unknown causes of death category only began appearing on the list in 2019 — there is no record of it ranking before then, dating back to 2001.

      What happened in 2019?

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        A wave of new doctors who didn’t learn much in medical school because they spent to much time worrying about skin color?

      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        What happened in 2019?

        Only 500 cases. The big jump happened in 2021.

  28. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    Poll: Nearly Two-Thirds Of College Democrats Would Refuse To Room With A Trump Supporter; Republicans Far Less Likely To Reject A Biden Voter.

    This is impossible because sarc, Jeff and Sqrlsy swore that they're not the tribal ones.

    1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      It's cute when the trolls give each other reacharounds. "If Reason were run by true libertarians they'd report on this!" "Oh yeah? Well if there were really true libertarians they'd report on this!" Watch as the trolls tremble in extasy from their masturbatory bitch session.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Poor sarc.

        1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          Keep your ejaculatory moaning to yourself. Gross.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            I've been wondering about you ever since you first shipped Sevo and Nardz.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              "shipped"

              Is that Canadian slang? Let me look it up.
              Oh. Really? You think pointing out potential mass-murderers is romantic?

              Dude, you've got problems.

              1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                I'm pretty sure that I'm not the one with problems:

                sarcasmic
                October.3.2021 at 7:32 pm
                "him and Nardz... making sweet homosexual love."

                https://reason.com/2021/10/03/how-the-cdc-became-americas-landlord/?comments=true#comment-9138013

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  The two of are on the fringe between hard right and full reverse. You don't think they're destined for each other? When it all goes to shit?

                  1. R Mac   3 years ago

                    See a psychiatrist sarc.

      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Still not tribal.

        1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

          If sitting around and watching tribal people do stupid shit is a tribe, then that's my tribe.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            "If shilling and covering for Democrats is a tribe, then that's my tribe."

            Fixed that for you.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              *crunch crunch*

  29. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    They're removing the statues of the Roosevelt who didn't lock Americans in internment camps because of their race.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Remember when Reason published the libertarian case for tearing down statues? Good times.

  30. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    Edgewater bans open carry of firearms; effort to cite ‘white supremacy’ in ordinance fail

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      For those that don't know, Edgewater is a run-down municipality on the north side of Denver that's undergone an influx of upper middle class white shitlibs the past few years, due to the metro area's skyrocketing housing costs. It was long a working-class area that became heavily Hispanic during the massive immigrant influx that took place in the metro area after Y2K, and so it was one of the last neighborhoods that had affordable housing to buy.

      What's notable here is that, in a neighborhood that's 80% Hispanic, the city council is whiter than a Klan rally.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        But how will the brown people know what to do without a progressive elite to lead them?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          You should ask the brown people, honestly--they're the ones who put these guys in office.

          Snark aside, it ultimately boils down to how people want to spend their time. Again, this is mostly a working-class, Hispanic neighborhood, and the odds are that they just don't want to devote the extra time and energy needed to be a part of a city council, which can be a pain in the ass in any circumstance. Your average construction worker or in-home care provider just isn't going to be motivated to waste a lot of time on figuring out how to fix the city sewer system, when all their energy is going in to just trying to pay the bills, and hoping your kid doesn't get knocked up at 15 or join a gang.

          I've noticed in other councils that an increasing number of members are not full-time professionals, but work remotely, are quite young (we're talking early-mid 20s young) and have few if any kids, are retirees, and/or are "floater" types like Bobby O'Rourke, who don't have an actual career but their spouse makes enough money that they can devote their time to doing nothing but politics.

  31. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    American Historical Association president apologizes for … citing historical facts

    Self-censorship isn't censorship. I learned that from Jeff.

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

      He went from this:

      "When we foreshorten or shape history to justify rather than inform contemporary political positions, we not only undermine the discipline but threaten its very integrity."

      to this:

      "In my clumsy efforts to draw attention to methodological flaws in teleological presentism, I left the impression that questions posed from absence, grief, memory, and resilience somehow matter less than those posed from positions of power."

      Feelz trumps history. Academia is fully corrupted.

      1. ragebot   3 years ago

        "In my clumsy efforts to draw attention to methodological flaws in teleological presentism, I left the impression that questions posed from absence, grief, memory, and resilience somehow matter less than those posed from positions of power."

        What the fuck is "teleological presentism"?

        It has reached the point that on every single thread at Reason I am compelled to post "you just made up that word".

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      More to the point, he was excoriated by his colleagues for offering a viewpoint that didn't conform to their ideological status quo.

      This is a great example of how the phrase "academic freedom" has become a euphemism for "neo-marxist conformity," and that universities are fundamentally corrupt at the foundation. When you notice that the trunk of an old tree is rotting at the base, you don't prune a few branches and hope that fixes the problem--you acknowledge that the tree is dying, cut it down, grind the stump, and replace it with a new tree.

  32. Sevo   3 years ago

    "Workers at UK’s biggest container port Felixstowe strike over pay"
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/21/workers-at-uks-biggest-container-port-felixstowe-due-to-begin-eight-day-strike-action

    According to the (non-credited) story in the dead-tree Chron this morning, the port operator "prioritized shareholder profits over worker welfare"(!)

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      If the port operator can find replacements, then well that is just too bad for the workers. If he can't, then well it is too bad for him and he is going to have to pay his people more if he wants to stay in business. It is not that he prioritized profits over workers. It is that he perhaps under estimated the market value of his workers. Time will tell who is right here.

      1. Overt   3 years ago

        "Time will tell who is right here."

        Unless the government enforces the Union monopoly. At which point, Might will tell who is right here.

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          The government can always screw it up. That said, being a port worker is not like it used to be where anyone with a strong back could do it. Now, it is a highly skilled job. Those workers are very hard to replace and in very short supply. So, government or no, the port owner is likely going to have to pay.

          1. Sevo   3 years ago

            All this may or may not be true, but the point was the objection to putting the stock-holder's interest above the workers; the workers may not like it, but that is the job of the management.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              The writer for the Chron is an idiot. That being said, it doesn't necessarily mean the workers are in the wrong here.

              1. Sevo   3 years ago

                That was a quote from the Union rep, and yes, he's wrong.

          2. ragebot   3 years ago

            While I get it that port workers don't do minimum wage jobs I can still remember Ronny Rayguns telling the air traffic controllers to bend over and take it with no lube. Didn't work out so well for the controllers.

  33. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    Looks like 1200 heretics need a good burning.

    Over 1000 Scientists and Professionals Sign Formal Declaration: “There is No Climate Emergency”
    “There is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050.

    1. Sevo   3 years ago

      "Fringe" group, right?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Definitely blasphemy, and probably sedition.

  34. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/zinc-aluminum-smelters-halted-europe-due-soaring-power-prices

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

      Renewables can't satisfy peak power loads at any price. You can't turn up a solar panel or a windmill.

      1. SRG   3 years ago

        You can certainly build large-scale storage facilities that can be brought online to meet peak power demands.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Hydro-storage is great, as is heat storage, but both take up a lot of space, alter the environment and water tables and are still insufficient to meet need let alone demand.

        2. Cyto   3 years ago

          Pumped hydro does not have a lot more capacity available though. Most of the easy and obvious projects have already been done. Maybe you could double or even triple capacity... But that is a drop in the bucket.

          1. Cyto   3 years ago

            Of course, that just goes to show that there cannot be one, singular answer. It will take many solutions working together.

            1. Sevo   3 years ago

              One pretty good one available and it's largely ignored: nuclear power.

              1. JimboJr   3 years ago

                yup. The lefties can embrace nuclear or STFU about CO2

                Or both

              2. SRG   3 years ago

                Yup. FWIW I think it's still true that more people die from radioactivity from coal power than from nuclear.

          2. JimboJr   3 years ago

            but what if we were to reduce the human population by a lot and then ration out the energy to the ones left?

            1. Nardz   3 years ago

              Sounds like a plan

          3. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Also of note that that's capacity for current generation, not capacity for a whole or near whole transfer to wind/solar. Additionally, there are similar losses of scale with hydro storage.

    2. Eeyore   3 years ago

      They will just move aluminum smelting to China where they can use coal.

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        BMW moved some engine casting to China, the claim is 'for local markets only'. But once Germany 'greens' to the point that flipping the switch no longer turns on the lights, the world in general might get a whole lot more "local"

  35. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-drops-more-crucial-demands-get-iran-deal

  36. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Female voter registrations surge following abortion ruling. New data from the political data firm TargetSmart suggests that in the wake of the Supreme Court's ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, some states have been seeing a surge of women registering to vote. "This isn't just a blue state phenomena. In fact, it is more pronounced in states where choice is more at risk, or has been eliminated by the decision," TargetSmart CEO Tom Bonier pointed out on Twitter.

    So woman are finally starting to buy WNBA tickets now that it's being canceled.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      It is cute how ENB assumes all of those women are pro choice when every poll I have seen shows that a majority of women are in fact pro life. I guess those are not real women or something.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        As Don't look at me! obliquely points out above, wouldn't it be funny if all those women didn't appreciate being told by the FBI/DOJ to sit down and shut up when they go to the local school board meeting to bring up masks and vaccines or boys being in the girls' locker rooms?

        1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

          Those wouldn't be real women.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            Let me get this straight. In the 21st century, a person with a penis who believes in certain party principles is a woman, but a person with a vagina who contradicts those principles is not. And not entitled to a totally gender equal special status.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              Yes, that about sums it up.

            2. mad.casual   3 years ago

              The only tweak I would make is not just 'with a vagina' but 'impregnated by a man, birthed a child (sometimes multiply), and has or is raising it to some level of maturity'.

              The woman who acts like a woman for 15 min. is a woman and needs protection. The woman who does or did what her sex/social role does uniquely, across species, to her own unavoidable physical detriment and for an entire lifetime, doesn't.

  37. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    Remember when we thought forcing loyalty oaths was bad?

    Back to school: Berkeley's 'diversity vow' for academic hires

    But that was loyalty to the Constitution. This is loyalty to leftist cant.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      My ideological purity good; your ideological purity bad.

      Article 1 of the draft New Constitution.

  38. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1561713748955602944?t=OG86OYhlq9GPkmrXY7uYTA&s=19

    In 18 months with 100% Democrat power.

    1) Highest gas prices in history.
    2) Highest inflation in 40 years.
    3) Recession.
    4) Tax hikes, adding 87,000 IRS agents.
    5) Wars everywhere
    6) Open border with millions pouring in.

    Dem midterm voters - “please give me more of this!”

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Makes a do nothing Republican congress sound pretty good doesn't it?

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        We could use a big dose of do nothing.

      2. mad.casual   3 years ago

        I said it then and I'll say it now, "The ditch is preferable to the destination."

  39. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Reacharound - Libertarian links because they won't.

    Always accuse others of what you plan to do yourself.

    Ron Wyden’s Wife Raked in PPP Loans While Laying Off Hundreds

    The Oregon Democrat warned that wealthy business owners could abuse the loan program. Financial disclosures suggest his wife did just that.

  40. Nardz   3 years ago

    Soviet media

    https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1561732976286867456?t=C65b0kfpcZoODOXeIy-xEg&s=19

    JUST IN: The fate of nearly all marine species could be at risk of extinction by the end of the century if greenhouse gases continue to be emitted at current rates, scientists are warning in a new study.

    [Link]

    1. Overt   3 years ago

      Wow, it's just as JFear predicted in the bailey thread this weekend.

      1. Michael Ejercito   3 years ago

        Yerah, he claimed humans would become extinct.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Meh. We have already gone extinct like 5 times since 1960.

      2. JimboJr   3 years ago

        if we are keeping score, we are already underwater and have been for decades, we are having a superstorm every week, a new pandemic will be happening every year, and oh we are also all basically dead.

        Its like the boy who cried wolf on ultra roids

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

          You forgot the second ice age from the seventies. That freeze was ready to kill all the oceans creatures too, along with the currents.

    2. JimboJr   3 years ago

      How are these people not getting pushback about these insanely ridiculous claims

      These are on par with previous religious concerns involving satan, the antichrist, and all the shit in the book of revelations. Somehow 'the climate change' is this all powerful earth ending force that is omnipotent and can/will cause everything imaginable to be 1000x worse than you can imagine.

      I mean it would honestly get exhausting thinking up new doom porn every day for what almighty climate is going to do.

      1. rbike   3 years ago

        It's not worse than monkeypox. At least in the short term. Get your panicking straight.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        You have to take it to the next level. The true believers are as much worried about somebody ending their drama queen state of panic than any actual existential threat.

    3. mad.casual   3 years ago

      https://www.theblaze.com/news/great-barrier-reef-coral-cover-record

      JUST IN: Two-thirds of Great Barrier Reef boast highest coral cover ever recorded despite previous reports of looming extinction of Australia's natural wonder

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      I'm noncommittal until Al Gore weighs in.

  41. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

    Fuck Joe Biden.

    77 days.

  42. Super Scary   3 years ago

    Fauci is out of here. He's going to step down from his current position and, presumably, fade away. He's going to get away with everything he's done for the last 3 years.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/22/us/politics/fauci-retire.html

    1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

      You spelled "40" wrong.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Yup. Fauci was killing AIDS patients before it was hip.

        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/whitewashing-aids-history_b_4762295

        and

        https://www.worldtribune.com/flashback-faucis-nih-funded-experiments-on-aids-orphans-in-new-york-city/

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      He needs to answer for his crimes against humanity.

    3. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      Guarantee you this totalitarian Lysenkoist gets the Medal of Freedom on his way out the door.

      "People need to get over this idea of individual freedom" - Fauci, when asked about the Sturgis rally.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Does he get federal body guard protection for life or something? Asking for a friend.

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

          Let his pension pay for it. And the kickbacks he's probably getting from Pfizer. And hush money from the CCP.

    4. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      Over/Under on Ron Bailey writing a fawning, glowing article on his departure?

    5. Minadin   3 years ago

      Lamp post, then wood chipper.

    6. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

      Hope he enjoys the few days between retirement and sentencing.

    7. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      That just says that he is certain the Democrats are going to lose control of the House. Now he can just ignore the subpoenas from the Republican Congress secure in the knowledge that only Republicans are ever prosecuted for contempt of Congress. If he doesn't retire, he will have to answer a lot of questions under oath before Congress. Fauci understandably wants to avoid that.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        If he doesn't retire, he will have to answer a lot of questions under oath before a hostile Congress. Fauci understandably wants to avoid that.

        Minor correction.

    8. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      People like him are why religion was invented. To accept the fact that evil in this world is rewarded while no good deed goes unpunished, they invented a hell where evil people would face retribution. Because they certainly don't see any in this life.

  43. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

    Hugo Chavez and socialism are being "erased from the Caracas skyline," says Bloomberg. In their place: ads for makeup, phones, and jeans.

    Potemkin billboards.

  44. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    Anyone watch House of the Dragon?

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      Whatever goodwill wasn't burned by George R. R. Martin's refusal to actually write a book ended up being burned by the disastrous final two seasons of Game Of Thrones. I don't know how anyone can be invested in that property anymore.

      It's kind of tragic. When it worked it was smart and ambitious, the kind of entertainment a lot of people were craving, but it devolved into lazy and contrived, skating on the name recognition and the attachment people had to their favorite characters.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        More like Game of Groans, amirite?

      2. JimboJr   3 years ago

        ^^ yup.

        That last season was such terrible writing and decision making. If they even listened to fans for 1/2 a second they would have done a better job.

        It was very clear when they ran out of material. GOT was best when they were replicating the books very closely, the second they ran out of material the writers gave us the best they could do

        1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          What’s most noticeable is the behavior of the series’ smart characters. When they ran out of material, Lady Olenna, Littlefinger, Varys, and Tyrion all lost about 30 IQ points. It’s difficult to write people smarter than yourself.

        2. Nardz   3 years ago

          More than lack of material, they stopped giving a shit and just wanted to get done with it asap so they could move on to star wars.

          I don't know if Martin would've kept writing, because I don't think he ever had an "end" firmly in mind, but the HBO series pretty much prompted him to transition into enjoying celebrity instead of doing the work. Which is fine, good for him, but it's been clear since season 1 that no more books were going to come out.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            I don't know if Martin would've kept writing, because I don't think he ever had an "end" firmly in mind, but the HBO series pretty much prompted him to transition into enjoying celebrity instead of doing the work

            Martin's been a lazy fuck on this for a while, not just when the show started. He published the first three books in about 5 years, the following two in the next 11 years, and something like half a chapter in the last 11.

            The truth of what happened is that he started running the Comicon circuit after 2000, and found that he liked the attention he got for writing the books, more than actually writing the books. He's never been the most disciplined writer to begin with, and the series went way beyond his ability to finish it right after Storm of Swords came out. Once he started doing Fire and Blood, GoT was done as a novel series.

            Writing is a grind, even for an ordinary novel much less a magnum opus like what he was envisioning, and he should have been banging away on that computer morning, noon, and night to get it done so he could move on to other projects. It won't even reach Wheel of Time status because the sci-fi fantasy industry is so hollowed out at this point, no one could finish it up for him even if they wanted to.

            Tolkien remains the king, now and always.

            1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              Tolkien remains the king, now and always.

              Tolkien's world is so detailed, so complete, and so consistent that it makes you wonder if he didn't somehow tap into another dimension where the world he described actually existed. Tolkien's accomplishments of imagination were super human. No one is even close.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                I'll give Stephen King this--he may be a hack whose plots are tissue-thin and crippled by Boomer hippie pretensions, but at least the fucker is disciplined and focused enough to actually sit at a desk and write until his books are finished, even in the years when he was absolutely zonked out of his mind on drugs and booze. That Yankee work ethic is ultimately what made him a very rich man.

                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  I haven’t read anything he’s done in a long time, but The Stand and the Gunslinger series are great. I did a book review of Tommyknockers in 5th grade and got bonus points for effort.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    If you thought the Gunslinger series was great then you never finished it.

                    1. R Mac   3 years ago

                      I finished it.

                    2. JimboJr   3 years ago

                      Ill go with sarc on this one and say he lost his way somewhere in there. The Dark Tower series had some cool stuff, but I feel like it didnt have staying power. Somewhere in the middle of it, it started feeling like a slog that I wanted to get through because I had invested time in it.

                      It was fine for scifi, but I wont give it more than that.

              2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                Ayuh!

      3. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        I agree on GOT. Last season was beyond terrible.

        A haven't watched this new show yet. It was in high enough demand to crash the HBO servers, so it might not suck.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          Hopefully it will be as good as The Rings of Power.

          1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

            Is that the show that cast Mr. T as a female dwarf?

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              "I pity the fool who don't like my wokeness!"

          2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            I've got no desire to see that. None whatsoever. I read LTR many times, and even read the Silmarillion, before Peter Jackson's abominations made the screen. I'm certainly not going to check transexual elves and whatever other woke bullshit they've wormed into the plot. No thanks.

            1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              I will admit I'm kinda curious. I guess it's "historical fiction" in the sense that the Silmarillion and other backstory notes were used to set the characters and the scenes, with the details being filled out by the imagination of the writers. It has the potential to be good.

              But in reality it will most likely be about LGBTQ characters coming to terms with their sexuality.

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                I guess it's "historical fiction" in the sense that the Silmarillion and other backstory notes were used to set the characters and the scenes, with the details being filled out by the imagination of the writers

                This sounds like a favorable interpretation. From what I hear, it's better described as "They couldn't use the names in the work, so they bought the next most affordable group of names to assign to the writer-inserts in their story that they barely, if at all, retconned to align with existing cannon." And that's a pretty objective take of Amazon's own messaging.

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  Right. Now I remember. They have the rights to LTR and Hobbit only.
                  No Silmarillion or other works. So they've got to do all their historical stuff based upon the Appendices in the third book of the trilogy.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    By the way, I think this observation of mine is kind of astute. Where else can they get their info if they're limited to LTR and Hobbit? There are vague quotes from Gandalf and others referencing the undying lands and such. I suppose.
                    And these rights alone cost something like a quarter of a billion dollars.
                    Yeah, $250,000,000.

                    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                      I still think you're slightly mistaken. Warner still owns LOTR and Hobbit and the Tolkien estate won't license Silmarillion, or not favorably/exclusively, so Amazon only owns the appendices/Unfinished Tales and, AFAICT, isn't working very faithfully off of that.

                      Like I said, it sounds like they wanted to make some high fantasy SJW film and a film exec said, "No one will watch it without name recognition." so they went out and bought some cocktail napkins that Tolkien had scribbled some names down on to fix the name recognition problem.

                    2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      You're probably right.

                    3. R Mac   3 years ago

                      “By the way, I think this observation of mine is kind of astute.”

                      Well bless your heart.

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                I wouldn't call it anything other than a fanfic that you'd see if you gave the gender/queer/ethnic studies departments at a university $1 billion to create a TV show.

                I suspect a lot of the early interest in House of the Dragon is that people are wondering if it's going to turn in to a shitshow like GoT did, and how quickly.

                1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                  I wouldn't call it anything other than a fanfic that you'd see if you gave the gender/queer/ethnic studies departments at a university $1 billion to create a TV show.

                  *snort, chortle*

                  I suspect a lot of the early interest in House of the Dragon is that people are wondering if it's going to turn in to a shitshow like GoT did, and how quickly.

                  I plan to watch it today at some point. You?

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                    I don't have HBO Max, so no. Whatever actual interest I had in that universe pretty much died after Sam entered the Great Library for the first time, which was the last genuine moment the show really possessed. I did watch the rest of the series after that out of sheer morbid curiosity as to how it was going to play out, and it didn't disappoint in its awfulness.

            2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

              They're probably got gay dwarves entangling their beards, agile elves doing it in trees, goblins and orcs doing it in teams, ents doing it verrrrry sloooowly, and who knows what else. Inter-species orgies?

            3. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

              I really don't get what people's bitch about the Jackson movies is. They were beautiful to look at and followed the books almost to the letter. What the hell else do you want? Are you just that in love with Tom Bambidil you can't get over his not being included?

              Nearly all of the ways the movies varied from the books were pretty minor. Yeah, it was Glorinfidle not Arawin who saved Frodo's ass on the journey to Rivendell. Does that really make the movie an "abomination"? Really? The only change I can really see bitching about is they had Sam turn on Frodo at the end. That was unnecessary and really against the spirit of the books. But that is one thing in like 15 hours of movie.

              I understand not loving the movies. They were not perfect. I frankly can't stand Elijah Wood and think they made a terrible decision casting him in the role of Frodo. But, I see no reasonable case for calling them an abomination or justifying the hatred a minority of Tolkien fans seem to have of them.

              1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

                I think everyone loved the LOtR trilogy, but blamed Jackson for stupid, bloated mess that was "The Hobbit," which became ridiculous. He got shoved into a bad position by the production company for that, though.

                1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

                  I liked the Hobbit movies. I liked them primarily because Martin Freeman is a thousand times better actor than Elijah Wood. Freeman does such a great job and is so fun to watch that I don't mind the movies' other flaws. If Freeman had been cast as Frodo, the LOTR movies would have been so much better.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    I watched them again recently and they were ok. The most exciting parts of the movies represented sentences in the book. The Battle of the Five Armies in the book is like Bilbo sees a shit show, sees the Eagles coming with Joe Walsh at the front, takes a bong hit or gets bonked on the head, and when he wakes up it's all over. And he was invisible the whole time because he was wearing the ring when he got knocked out.

                    Peter Jackson turned that into an entire movie.

          3. mad.casual   3 years ago

            Step 1: Spend $1B on production.
            Step 2: Spend $100K on streaming infrastructure.
            Step 3: Declare servers crashed.
            Step 4: Profit!

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              Are they blaming the server crash on sexist-racist haters?

      4. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        "I sit on the floor and pick my nose
        and think of dirty things
        Of deviant dwarves who suck their toes
        and elves who drub their dings.

        I sit on the floor and pick my nose
        and dream exotic dreams
        Of dragons who dress in rubber clothes
        and trolls who do it in teams.

        I sit on the floor and pick my nose
        and wish for a thrill or two
        For a goblin who goes in for a few no-nos
        Or an orc with a thing about glue.

        And all of the while I sit and pick
        I think of such jolly things
        Of whips and screws and leather slacks
        Of frottages and stings."

        -Bored of the Rings, by Harvard Lampoon

      5. Dillinger   3 years ago

        >>devolved into lazy and contrived, skating on the name recognition

        Seinfeld?

  45. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    'Hugo Chavez and socialism are being "erased from the Caracas skyline," says Bloomberg. In their place: ads for makeup, phones, and jeans.'

    So then, what should we call a political-economic system where a small elite can spend all their time shopping for makeup and jeans, and 99% percent of the citizens suffer under institutional poverty guaranteed by a massive government bureaucracy?

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Modern socialism.

  46. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    House Oversight Committee leaders urged eight social media companies Friday to crack down on online threats against law enforcement that are reportedly on the rise following the FBI’s raid of former President Donald Trump’s home Mar-a-Lago.

    The lawmakers sent letters demanding information and documents from Twitter, TikTok, Facebook parent company Meta and Telegram, as well as the Trump-backed app Truth Social. Three other platforms with largely conservative followings, Rumble, Gettr and Gab, were also contacted.

    No need to worry about abortion threats to supreme court justices.

    1. Moonrocks   3 years ago

      All Cops Are Bastard! No, not those cops!

    2. TJJ2000   3 years ago

      They should all be indicted for treason...

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
      >>>>>>> or abridging the freedom of speech <<<<<<<<
      , or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

      If there is ever any 'law' that would punish them for not abiding to their demands.

  47. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

    For those of you tired of reading about the savage mayhem of American politics, here's some news about the sedate political environment of Italy. Far-right Italian leader blasted for posting rape video

  48. TJJ2000   3 years ago

    Republicans act SUPER F'En stupid (Power-Mad) by successfully defeating their OWN F'En ruling (Republicans wrote the Roe v Wade ruling) and lose votes to probably not Nazi-Fans but they're Nazi-Voters now because they had to chose between a Nazi-Regime and a Gun-Toting Puritan dictator..

    Why couldn't you (Pro-Lifers) just LEAVE OTHERS ALONE!!!!!
    It's PERSONAL; None of UR F'En business!!!!

    FORCING Women to Reproduce against their will isn't Individual Liberty or Justice. You could've passed a law making it illegal for doctors to intentionally kill a fetus all along; but you(Pro-Lifers) didn't ---- Just HAD to get personal Gov-Gun DICTATION involved.

    1. Briggs Cunningham   3 years ago

      Shup up shreek.

  49. Dillinger   3 years ago

    >>"70% of Kansans who registered to vote after the Dobbs decision was released were women,"

    having come to the recent understanding they were eligible.

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      The only state where saying "We're not in Kansas anymore" will get the hell beat out of you.

    2. mad.casual   3 years ago

      I'm sure they all promptly filled out and turned in their Selective Service cards within 30 days of turning 18.

      Funny how, despite all the waves of 'Women are just as good as men.' and 'What is a woman?', some things never change.

      1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

        I know, women should be forced to register for compulsory military service we should get rid of selective service.

      2. Dillinger   3 years ago

        I think at some point the US Women's soccer team might beat a high school boys team lol who am I kidding?

    3. Truthteller1   3 years ago

      It's a nightmare, they will vote like good sheep.

  50. Sufi   3 years ago

    Elizabeth Nolan Brown is my favorite Reason reporter but she very badly missed the boat on this article. The reality is exactly opposite from what she concludes!
    Why combine shooting mass deaths with deaths from other causes like arson and vehicular homicide when the data on mass shootings alone is easily available here:
    https://time.com/4965022/deadliest-mass-shooting-us-history/

    Analyzing this data brings me to a much different conclusion. My calculations based on this data says for the ten years between 2021 and 2012 the average number of firearm deaths per year was 54.1 and the average number of wounded was 88.1. During the ten year period before that the numbers of deaths and wounded was 18 and 15.1 respectively. The ten year period before that between 1991 and 2001 was 14.8 and 16.9.
    Quite clearly there has been a HUGE increase in gun violence during the last ten years compared to the twenty years before that. Gun violence has increased by nearly 4.5 times compare to the 20 years before 2012. You are welcome to read the article and check my math. Nolan Brown's conclusions are quite the opposite from reality!

  51. Sufi   3 years ago

    Elizabeth Nolan Brown is my favorite Reason reporter but she very badly missed the boat on this article. The reality is exactly opposite from what she concludes!
    Why combine shooting mass deaths with deaths from other causes like arson and vehicular homicide when the data on mass shootings alone is easily available here:
    https://time.com/4965022/deadliest-mass-shooting-us-history/
    Analyzing this data brings me to a much different conclusion. My calculations based on this data says for the ten years between 2021 and 2012 the average number of firearm deaths per year was 54.1 and the average number of wounded was 88.1. During the ten year period before that the numbers of deaths and wounded was 18 and 15.1 respectively. The ten year period before that between 1991 and 2001 was 14.8 and 16.9.
    Quite clearly there has been a HUGE increase in gun violence during the last ten years compared to the twenty years before that. Gun violence has increased by nearly 4.5 times compare to the 20 years before 2012. You are welcome to read the article and check my math. Nolan Brown's conclusions are quite the opposite from reality!

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