In a Belated Outburst of Rationality, Germany Decides To Keep Three Nuclear Plants Open
Leaving the country dependent on Russian natural gas was not too smart.

Russia has dramatically cut its exports of natural gas to Germany as punishment for the country's support of Ukraine in its war against the Russian invasion. Germany was getting 55 percent of its natural gas from Russia before the war. In the meantime, Germany has been shutting down perfectly good nuclear reactors that would have made the country less dependent upon the whims of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Before 2010, Germany had 17 operating nuclear power plants. However, in a panicked over-reaction to the Fukushima nuclear meltdowns in 2011, the German government decided to close all of them down.
Leaving the country dependent on Russian natural gas was not too smart. Let's compare how primary energy consumption in Germany evolved over the last 15 years.

In 2009, nuclear energy and natural gas accounted for 11 percent and 22 percent, respectively, of Germany's primary energy consumption.

By 2021, nuclear energy had fallen to 6 percent of Germany's primary energy consumption whereas natural gas had increased to more than 30 percent. By the first half of 2022, nuclear power provided for only 3.1 percent of Germany's primary energy consumption.
In June, the German government announced that it would be curtailing the use of natural gas to generate electricity in order to conserve it for heating this winter. In 2009, nuclear power supplied 25 percent of Germany's electricity which had dropped by 2021 to under 12 percent. In the meantime, burning natural gas generated 15 percent in 2021.
Germany's last three nuclear power plants were scheduled to shut down this year, but in a belated outburst of rationality, the German government has decided to keep them open for now.
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You know who else was known for outbursts in Germany?
That really great scene in the bunker in the movie "Downfall"?
Claus von Stauffenberg?
That one guy in inglorious basterds?
Leipzig was scoring in droves a couple seasons ago.
Bill Haley & His Comets?
Screaming Hasslehoff fans?
The Beatles?
Klink?
Klaus Kinski?
Klaus Nomi?
Sgt. Shultz? Although he never knew anything.
Klink? Schultz? What’s Major Hochstetter, chopped liver?
https://youtu.be/fTyDtzgvHng
Lili von Shtupp? https://youtu.be/s9JqbCH4aVw
(It's Twue! It's Twue!)
Is she any welation to Mawena Deutschwen?
https://youtu.be/kLRF7Lb-fOM
The RAF Bomber Command and USAAF?
Nice comment, and historically accurate. The Army bombed the hell out of the Third Reich.
This is not an act of rationality. They pretty much had no choice.
They had a choice. They can always let the lights go out.
Let them burn corn !
https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2022/08/fuel-for-thought.html
That’s what happened the last time Germany was forced to shut off the gas. (Well I’m sorry, but maybe if they refuse cheap energy they’ll take a cheap shot instead!)
People noted this when the Germans began is idiotic, quixotic quest to rid themselves of nuclear power. They failed to listen until the Russians stopped providing natural gas. Ironically, the Germans went from a source of less CO2 emissions to a source of more CO2 emissions by closing the nuke plants. If you really are serious about reducing emissions, then nuclear is the only real way to go.
Very true. This also shows why we need to get rid of the green movement, which also means getting rid of the democrats. They are an existential threat.
Better they go than us.
Thanks for the laugh Ted.
People forget that the "Green Movement " was manufactured by the KGB during the Cold War and it is still paying dividends for Putin now.
If only someone had warned them about relying on Russian gas.
Oh well.
Who in Germany would have thought that Ivan was still pissed about that whole WWII thing.
You expect Reason to mention Trump when issuing the same exact take he had? Way too tangential. Totally unlike Rand Paul wanting to do away with they espionage act. That is 100% about Trump, just ask Shackford.
"One of them captured the amused reactions of the German delegation as Trump said: “Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy if it does not immediately change course. Here in the Western Hemisphere, we are committed to maintaining our independence from the encroachment of expansionist foreign powers.”
German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas could be seen smirking alongside his colleagues.
It wasn’t the first time Trump had lashed out at Germany over its gas imports from Russia."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/09/25/trump-accused-germany-becoming-totally-dependent-russian-energy-un-germans-just-smirked/
Almost as if cold were more deadly than heat.
A real question: any idea how many of the retired nuclear reactors could be revived in time for winter, or sooner? I'd guess at least some have been decommissioned too much to restore, but could some have simply been mothballed and just need a month or two of work to come back online?
On that time scale? My guess is zero. Even a very short shutdown (for example, in response to an unplanned maintenance need) requires months of work and inspection before the plant will be allowed to come back online.
The prior three nuclear plants in Germany were shut down in January of this year. By now, those plants are down and cold. You'd need a year or more to restart safely even if the nuclear fuel was still on site.
Believe it or not, it might actually be faster to build entirely new nuclear facilities than to inspect and restart the decommissioned ones.
A month or two?
The biggest obstacle is likely staffing. When thousands of workers are let go from a plant that is shutting down, not too many if the workers starting just sitting around the house waiting for a potential call-back. They went on with their lives and got new jobs.
The next obstacle is nuclear fuel. Procurement plans are made years and years in advance. Again, fuel suppliers are not sitting on idle fuel-production plants just waiting for a now-closed nuke plant to decide to restart. They have production commitments to their existing customers.
"...The biggest obstacle is likely staffing. When thousands of workers are let go from a plant that is shutting down, not too many if the workers starting just sitting around the house waiting for a potential call-back. They went on with their lives and got new jobs.
The next obstacle is nuclear fuel. Procurement plans are made years and years in advance. Again, fuel suppliers are not sitting on idle fuel-production plants just waiting for a now-closed nuke plant to decide to restart. They have production commitments to their existing customers."
To their surprise, that greaseball Newsom and SF Mayor Breed found out this is true of business in general; yes, you can mandate closure overnight by making it illegal to run said business. Restarting it doesn't quite work that way.
Couple of months ago, Breed pitched the Chamber of Commerce luncheon, begging business leaders to require the workers return to the offices in the hopes of re-populating boarded up portions of downtown SF, never once apologizing for the mess SHE created. Notable lack of applause.
Asshole...
If any large and complex item is mothballed with the expectation that it will be restarted sooner or later, quite a lot of work and some materials are needed to avoid problems developing as it sits. Even then, much work will be needed to get ready to restart, drained fluids replaced, every moving part freshly lubricated, etc., and then it has to be started up in stages while checking for anything gone bad. For something as critical as a nuclear power plant, I'd expect the startup and checkout to take many months.
But I don't think that's how these plants were shut down, and any shutdown past a few months will have left problems for restarting. Many moving parts will have stuck wherever they happened to stop. Water may have been left in pipes to freeze over the winter; even if supposed to be drained, fluids often remain in low spots. It isn't the pipes visibly burst by freezing that are the worst problem, but the ones with hidden damage that are likely to burst later.
I know from experience that if a house sits unheated over a Michigan winter, there's going to be plumbing work required when you move in in the summer, and possibly other work to repair water damage. Think how much worse that will be when the pipes may be feet in diameter, the pressure may be hundreds of psi, and the water may have picked up some radiation.
Thanks. I figured ones decommissioned years ago would be too difficult, but had not realized some were decommissioned just this year.
German Heavy Water Experiments. Just saying.
The perfect beverage to go with their cuisine
It doesn't take a lot of heavy water consumption to be fatal to a human.
The same goes for German food.
Hey, what is better than bratwurst, sauerkraut and beer? Especially when it's cold outside.
I have fond memories of time in Frankfurt, heading to a biergarten I found in Sachsenhausen. Pork (get the shank portion, the lean stuff is for tourists), sauerkraut, apfelwien, and sparkling water. The local girls sometimes mix the applejack with the sparkling water to make it like champagne. The apple wine isn't necessarily my favorite, but it's good, especially after you've already had a bottle of it, and a local staple.
Similar memories of great pork on the Mosel, though with a really lovely, dry Riesling.
In Munich, I always went for beer.
Germany has some great food.
Yeah. Germany has a very diverse food culture, which many Americans aren't aware of. From the Rhine river wine industry to the North Germany biers, to the south Germany's bier cultures, it's extremely varied, much more so than in America. I love a good Hef in the summertime. It's really one of the best heat killers there is, with it's citrus notes, especially if you add a slice of lemon to accent the citrus notes. Keep your IPAs, I'll take Weissbier and Hefs any day, especially when it's hot outside.
Soldiermedic, I’ll go a long way for a bad joke.
"what is better than bratwurst, sauerkraut and beer? Especially when it's cold outside."
Freezing to death.
In 2009, nuclear power supplied 25 percent of Germany's electricity which had dropped by 2021 to under 12 percent.
Think about that stat....Germany deliberately reduced the share of electricity created by nuclear power by 50% in just 12 years. In just 12 years, they fucked themselves royally.
Now think about America. Are we fucking ourselves royally, like Germany did?
Answer: Yes
And the share of renewables didn't come close to offsetting that loss. So they increased CO2 emissions considerably in their quixotic green religion. And now we're following their example. Happy days for us. BTW, what is it about Democrats and adopting authoritarian policies from centrally planned German regimes?
Next you'll be saying that FDR admired Mussolini, Stalin, and Hitler!
Perish the thought.
Jonas must go to 1986 and tell Claudia to construct more plants.
Guess the idea of a lot of mad cold Germans this winter doesn't look good. Did them chopping down all the remaining forests give them a clue.
What's keeping Norway from providing them the gas?
Existing contract obligations, pipeline routing. That kind of thing.
A transport method.
Germany is building its first LNG terminal.
Energy traders are making a killing exporting US natural gas to Europe as prices soar - with some single shipments bringing in $200 million
Harry Robertson Aug 13, 2022, 11:54 AM
US production is way up (I know, I know, wingnut.com says Biden shut down all US drilling).
But this is amazing:
Segalen said companies with gas to sell in the US can fill a large ship and send it across the Atlantic for around $60 million, with the cargo then fetching around $275 million in Europe.
European gas prices have risen around 200% in local currency terms over the last year. When converted into dollars, benchmark Dutch TTF natural gas futures prices stood at around $62 per metric million British thermal units (mmbtu) on Friday.
By contrast, US natural gas is far cheaper, given the country's plentiful supplies and its lower capacity for exports. US Henry Hub natural gas futures traded at around $8.70 per mmbtu Friday, even after rising sharply in recent months.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/us-natural-gas-exports-europe-surge-energy-crisis-trader-profits-2022-8
$62 in Europe for natual gas - over six times higher than in the USA.
BUT BIDEN WON'T LET US DRILL !!!!! HANNITY SAID SO !!!!
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Maybe they realized that central planning doesn't work?
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/how-freedom-enriches-us
In a world of State-run ‘companies’, nobody (save the well-connected, as always) has access to resources because the State claims dominion over all things. In a free market society, access to resources is price-based. This means that the part-time carpenter (who values raw timber higher than a baker) can head down to the lumber-equivalent version of Randalls and purchase whatever they like. Eventually, the raw wood is turned into a chair (or many chairs) - improving the lives of everybody involved. Maybe this part-time gig is so successful that it turns into a full-time job, perhaps one that requires additional employees — once again improving the lives of everybody involved.
Of course, a single part-time carpenter doesn’t account for the vast difference in standard of living between the two styles of governance. But let’s zoom out just a little bit further. The woman who loves to bake values cooking ingredients higher than the carpenter does and makes the most of those ingredients, exactly how the man who loves to garden values gardening tools higher than others. Every time our resources are ‘optimized’ in this way, society gets just a little bit richer. Compound these small differences over millions of people and hundreds of years, and eventually you’re faced with Randalls supermarket versus the bare and depressing Russian-run version.
As an added bonus, the citizens of a free society are also HAPPIER than communists, specifically because of the freedom to pursue their hopes and dreams. No central planning required. Just free people making their own decisions about how to spend their time and resources.
There was no central planning in Germany. That's the problem here, acting without planning.
The rational thing would be to build new nuclear power plants, to stop their zero net carbon program, and to tap into their domestic natural gas reserves.
Keeping three nuclear power plants open temporarily is merely an act of desperation.
Of course they did, just as it has always been true that humans will rely on nuclear energy when fossil fuels get more scarce.
"But Wind and Solar can easily power the world and then some and it's cheaper and it's more efficient... It's just those nasty ?anything-but? companies ?forcing? everyone to buy ?anything-but? energy force society to buy their energy (Insert conspiracy theory here)... We need Gov-Guns to force-ably free society of those evil (imaginary tools of force) of dictation...", Every leftard dumb*ss,
Whatever happened to this commonly-accepted P.C. idiocy (i.e. ?Science?)? Funny how it disappears over-night once a taste of *reality* hits.