Donald Trump Pleads the 5th After Years of Saying Only Guilty People Do That
The former president may be a hypocrite, but at least he knows his own rights.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has investigated former President Donald Trump and his real-estate business for over a year. The probe, conducted in conjunction with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, began as a civil investigation before James announced last May that it had become criminal.
Today, Trump was forced to sit for a deposition at James' Manhattan office. In a statement, he indicated that he had "declined to answer the questions," invoking his Fifth Amendment right not to be forced to incriminate oneself.
The invocation marked a notable break from Trump's previous thoughts on taking the Fifth, most notably during the 2016 campaign: During a presidential debate against Hillary Clinton, he called it "disgraceful" that members of her staff had refused to testify before congressional committees investigating Clinton's use of a private email server. Days later, he told a rally crowd, "The mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"
Trump addressed the about-face in today's statement: "I once asked, 'If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?' Now I know the answer to that question." He cited the FBI's Monday raid of Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach home, as the last straw of "an unfounded, politically motivated Witch Hunt supported by lawyers, prosecutors, and the Fake News Media." He further claimed that "the current Administration and many prosecutors in this Country have lost all moral and ethical bounds of decency," thereby requiring him to take the Fifth "under the advice of my counsel."
In truth, Trump's history on the right against self-incrimination is more complicated than that: In 1990, during divorce proceedings from his first wife Ivana, he invoked the right 97 times in response to questions about potential adultery. In 1998, days after President Bill Clinton admitted an affair with a White House intern before a grand jury, Trump said in an interview, "I'm not even sure that he shouldn't have just gone in and taken the Fifth Amendment."
In 2017, a Democratic National Committee email cited Trump's statements tying "taking the Fifth" to the mob, after Trump defended Michael Flynn, his former national security advisor, who invoked the Fifth by refusing to testify before Congress about communications with Russian officials.
It's not surprising that Trump would change his tune on an aspect of the law depending on its application. But looking askance at the Fifth Amendment is a bipartisan tradition.
In 1986, when Oliver North refused to testify before hearings about Iran Contra, Sen. John Glenn (D–Ohio) complained, "I can't think of anything that is going to polarize Capitol Hill more or make this into a political football any more than people taking the Fifth or stonewalling it and preventing all the information from coming out."
In 2013, when IRS chief Lois Lerner invoked the Fifth and refused to testify about her agency's overzealous investigation of conservative nonprofits, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Preibus said it was a sign that "there's clearly something serious the American people are not being told." Rep. Stephen Lynch (D–Mass.) similarly promised there would be "hell to pay" if Lerner and others did not testify.
But the right not to be compelled to incriminate oneself is as inherent to the Constitution as the rights to speech or assembly. It stems from America's founding when Puritans who had experienced forced interrogations in England made sure to codify the right into the new nation's Constitution. The American legal system is founded upon the premise that the government has to prove a person's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The right against self-incrimination ensures that the government must meet that burden of proof without requiring a defendant to participate.
Sometimes, the interview itself is part of the prosecutorial strategy: As former federal prosecutor Ken "Popehat" White wrote in Reason, "arguably the primary purpose [of an interview] is to provoke the foolish interviewee into lying," thereby committing a prosecutable offense that can be used as leverage. Since most people would not know what to expect, "even an honest, circumspect person faces grave peril in such an interview."
By invoking his Fifth Amendment right today, Trump may be a hypocrite. But that doesn't mean he is wrong to do so.
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New York Attorney General Letitia James has investigated former President Donald Trump and his real-estate business for over a year.
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And years ago our justice system was credible. So much can change in just a few years. A great nation can be transformed into a third world banana republic, for instance. If I were him, I'd take the fifth too.
Poor Dear Leader.
What happened to Obama?
He married a crazy black woman.
Who may or may not have a penis.
They all be crazy.
The editors at Reason are failing, big time. I'm going to have to significantly change my legacy gift to Reason, to some other organization that actually promotes less government.
Trump has learned, there's a lot of alligators that don't look or act like alligators, in the swamp, until they are in power. Trump was foolish to believe government hasn't been corrupted, and he believed a lot of his hires, who lied to him to get their positions of power. Now he knows why many people plead the 5th, as the FBI has shown they'll setup people are political enemies of the entrenched political class in DC. The good thing about his approach, is the alligators soon revealed themselves, as corrupt. Like everyone who furthered the Russian collusion hoax manufactured by Hillary and Obama.
Donald Trump Pleads the 5th After Years of Saying Only Guilty People Do That
Considering the circumstances, this applies to Trump. The regime knows he's guilty, they just don't know what the crime is.
When he said that only guilty people plead the 5th, he meant lawless democrats. Not special righteous patriots like himself.
The 5th amendment is in there just for these circumstances, when an honest patriot is being persecuted. This is different than when it is abused by lawless democrats.
Jeffrey Clark's pleading of the 5th was also righteous, because he was trying to reverse a stolen election. Stolen by lawless democrats.
Pleading the 5th is fine, even commendable, unless done so by a lawless democrat. This is different than when real patriots invoke the right.
So, Doug, you're now saying that pleading the Fifth is proof you're guilty if you're an evil conservative.
Got it.
Let me guess...we should have no problem with a massive increase in IRS agents because you shouldn't lie on your taxes, eh?
Doug should be just fine with quarterly IRS probes of his personal and any business tax returns. Not if he has nothing to hide.
When they attempted to impeach you twice on evidence that explicitly exonerated you, you've undergone a seven year IRS fishing trip, the FBI manufactured fake evidence about you and lied to a federal judge for a warrant, a committee investigating claims cooked up by your running opponent knowingly uses fake documents as it's basis for a special investigation, the investigator finds nothing but deliberately uses vague language regarding your innocence, and a New York AG says he hates you and he's going to find some time dirt on you and launches a witchhunt, you can be excused for using the fifth.
When IRS chief Lois Lerner invoked the Fifth and refused to testify about her political attack on conservative nonprofits, it wasn't even close to the same situation.
I hope someone posts the video of Doug getting beaten to death on social media.
You’re still here trying to cash checks with other people’s asses Nardzy-poo? Ida figured you’d have finally put up or shut up.
Hey look, it's the soy who promotes tattling to Daddy Gov when people say things it doesn't like.
Your life doesn't matter, Eric, and ending it yourself would be the best decision you've ever made.
Nardz is right. You have no reason live, and you’re just a clump of cells anyway. So drink a bottle of Drano. That will be your contribution to cutting CO2 emissions.
"When he said that only guilty people plead the 5th, he meant lawless democrats. Not special righteous patriots like himself."
Stuff your TDS up your ass, shitpile.
I think in normal prosecutorial situations, pleading the 5th is a bad look.
This is not normal. These are people who are obsessed with destroying Trump. The prosecutor in this case ran on the promise that she would find something to prosecute Trump for.
Pleading the 5th is at least still playing by the rules. The left does not currently believe that they are bound by rules.
Poor Dear Leader. He’s really, really a victim.
We are all the victims of reading your drivel.
You lived with your parents until 27, and then moved into Richie Ianucchi 's apartment because you didn’t have the balls to live on your own. Slink back to your IPS truck, you fat fuck.
Sarc's real name? Either way, another day, another Doug.
Exactly. She campaigned on getting him. For something, anything…
Robert Mueller already proved Drumpf has been a Russian intelligence asset since 1987 and the 1 / 6 hearings proved he masterminded a HEAVILY ARMED INSURRECTION. He's going to prison regardless of the 5th Amendment.
And one minute after he's behind bars, we in the billionaire-funded #Resistance will already have our next message ready to go — "#DeathSantis is even worse than Drumpf!"
#LizCheney2024
Does Poe’s Law allow me to plead the Fifth?
Hahahahah. Yes, Muller proved Trump was a Russian asset that’s why absolutely nothing came of that investigation.
You’re a stupid person who should just watch TV and fade away.
How dare you assume OBL's species!
Adjust your parody detector.
Dude's handle is SeaLion.
So it’s Lying Jeffy?
What are the odds Jeffy is a registered sex offenders.
Very high.
Although it’s hard to actually offend when your fat ass can’t get up your mom’s basement steps easily.
Poor Dear Leader. The walls are closing in. He’s completely innocent!
Fucked up again. Do you even understand how this is supposed to work?
With that non sequitur ending, this must be some kind of Chinese bot.
Lancaster pounces!
The Derangement Syndromw never ends at “Reason”
Trump is the most Libertarian president in modern times. Yet all Reason does is bash him.
The most Libertarian president in modern times would not say "Take the guns first. Go through due process second, I like taking the guns early."
It's hilarious how leftists have to lie about their beliefs from the get go.
So, faggot, which president was better for liberty than orangemanbad?
Calvin Coolidge, of course
Sure, but a bit of a stretch on the "modern" qualifier
"The most Libertarian president in modern times would not say"
TDS-addled shitpiles would focus 0n what he said, rather than what he did.
trade wars, bump stock bans, and trying to coerce elected officials to throw the election for him?
"trade wars, bump stock bans, and trying to coerce elected officials to throw the election for him?"
Tax cuts, regulation reduction, appointing those who oppose government intrusion, resulting in a raging economy and you are obviously too infected with TDS to understand the term "coercion", asshole.
Stuff your TDS up your ass, steaming pile of lefty shit.
so, your response is to deliberately ignore the blatantly non-libertarian actions taken by Trump..... got it... you are a moron who wants to pretend you are a libertarian while ignoring the blatant anti-libertarian actions of your chosen savior.
So yout reaponse is to deliberately ignore the blatantly ANTI-libertarian actions taken by Biden so you don’t have to admit that Trump is by far the lesser of two evils?
don't forget losing Republicans the House, Senate, and White House faster than you can say "30 trillion in debt"
Way to shill for thr dems, Scheißkopf. Lets see what Biden loses them faster than you can say “10% inflation and counting”.
"Trump is the most Libertarian president in modern times."
This is true. I thank you for admitting it.
> "Trump is the most Libertarian president in modern times."
That's sort of like being the tallest midget, or the skinniest Sumo wrestler, or the most honest lawyer.
Or the most intelligent thing brandybuck has ever said
Well, we are taking about politicians, so the bar is low.
Always listen to Tron
Tron: There are! I say there are so many amendments in the constitution of the United States of Americaaaa! I can only choose one! I can only choose ooooooone! I plead the fif! I plead the fif! FIVE! 1,2,3,4, fiiiif! Anything you say! FIIIF! Go ahead and ask me a question!
Senator: How do...
Tron: Fif!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdeo7Q2E5cE
"On the advice of my counsel, who is the best counsel, many people have told me, I decline to answer that nasty question, this is the kind of question they never asked crooked Hilary, the FBI should have prosecuted her, I asked them to investigate but Chris Wray, I call him little Chris, said that there was not enough evidence and the constitution says innocent until proven guilty, which is how drug dealers get away, 5,000 drug dealers a year, thanks to Sleepy Joe, but you can't just lock them up because of the constitution, nobody knew that until I explained it, judges said I knew as much constipational, and constitutional law, as they did, so I won't answer because of the fifth amendment right against self-incomprehension"
love it.
Of course Donald Trump is guilty, comrades. We all know that. He is guilty of trying to stop the revolution. This cannot be permitted.
So dramatic. Go wave a snake flag at the Palm Beach PD if you really care.
Ooohhh…… are you one of our usual progtards? Or are you some new shitweasel that burrowed in here
He’s not muted, so that cuts down on who it could be (unless Mr Bittplug got a new IP address)
It's by email and account rather than IP.
Same idiot that ran the KAR and DOL socks. Probably shrike. Ask him about Mormons.
Naah, tell him to eat shit and die.
Eating shit hasn't killed sqrly, yet.
True.
It's not a person, so it doesn't matter.
Reason writers just keep getting dumber.
You told them!
Damn, you’re weak. Did you think that was somehow…… clever?
It wasn’t.
I wouldn't talk to these people either and if taking the Fifth is the only way to not talk to them, take the Fifth. Look what happened to General Flynn and Scooter Libbie. The were not convicted of a real crime, only "lying to a federal law enforcement" officer. In both cases they were trivial mistakes where the underlying action was perfectly legal. If they ask you if it was it in the morning or the evening and you pick the wrong one, you are 'lying to a federal law enforcement' officer. You know what is NOT against the law? Them lying to you. They can lie all day long about witnesses, surveillance footage, etc. If they can lie to us, why can't we lie to them? It's like those stupid laws against filming a policeman while he has a body cam running on you. Sauce for the goose.
If taking the Fifth is the only way not to talk to them, and taking the Fifth is about not incriminating oneself, what does that say about Trump, Flynn, and Scooter?
taking the fifth - is a big middle finger to the NY AG - not an admission of guilt - in spite of Trumps prior rumblings...
But didn't Trump say only guilty people take the Fifth? If he took it, what is he saying about himself?
It's saying he's a dumbass who runs his mouth and says bullshit he wishes he could take back.
Bingo.
"But didn't Trump say only guilty people take the Fifth? If he took it, what is he saying about himself?"
This is tell for TDS-addled shitpiles; If Trump isn't perfect, I"M RIGHT!
No, asshole, Trump is a load-mouthed loose cannon who simply turned into the best POTUS we've had in about 100 years.
Fuck off and die.
losing his party the legislature and executive branches in one term is how you define "the best"? talk about dumb-downed America, jeesh
Did M4E change its handle after being called out as being the most Orwellian?
Sounds like it.
What are you, a third grader?
But didn't Trump say only guilty people take the Fifth? If he took it, what is he saying about himself?
He is saying that he knows that he's guilty and that the left wants him to speak so they can use his words to fabricate the crime that he is obviously guilty of.
Duh.
It says your life expectancy is real fucking short.
"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - attributed to Cardinal Richelieu
The spirit of that statement is alive and well in modern times. Trump was wrong to say that only the guilty invoke their 5th amendment rights, contrary to internet jokes, the man isn't perfect.
I was going to say, Michael Flynn is very implicitly referenced here, wondered why they didn't use his name.
Sometimes, the interview itself is part of the prosecutorial strategy: As former federal prosecutor Ken "Popehat" White wrote in Reason: "arguably the primary purpose [of an interview] is to provoke the foolish interviewee into lying," thereby committing a prosecutable offense that can be used as leverage. Since most people would not know what to expect, "even an honest, circumspect person faces grave peril in such an interview."
You think you're trying to help out someone on your side, they're just looking for the most tenuous inconsistency so they can charge with you making inconsistent statements.
Trump is only ever consistent in his inconsistency. A smart man will just start out assuming he's lying and go from there; they'll usually be right.
Oh? What did he lie about?
I mean real, actual lies. Not exaggeration, parables and figures of speech that the WaPo et al. called "lies".
"The election was stolen."
That's for starters. Short list here:
https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/
Though most estimates put Trump's lies at over 30,000.
It was stolen, asshole.
Because you don't understand that mail-in ballots are often counted at a different time than same-day ballots and you refuse to learn?
That's only one of the half million ways they blatantly fucked with the results.
If you can't produce any evidence of this, you are engaging in some treasonous evil shit, are you not?
Are you capable of considering the possibility that you're wrong, or does your brain just not work that way?
Do you get off from being lying scum?
https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/17/judge-rules-michigan-secretary-of-state-violated-state-law-with-absentee-ballot-order/
If you can't produce any evidence of this, you are engaging in some treasonous evil shit, are you not?
If you're deliberately ignoring all the evidence you sure as fuck are.
Anyway: https://hereistheevidence.com/
Enjoy. It's what you asked for.
They may say it's evidence, and you may believe it's evidence, but that's not what evidence is.
People just claiming something isn't evidence. Lost frivolous court cases aren't evidence. The spaghetti method isn't evidence.
Even actual vote miscounts aren't evidence of what you're claiming. The top-line number is 2 million votes "touched by anomalies" using what I'm sure is a very rigorous method of defining anomaly. But that's less than half of the popular vote spread.
At any rate, the electoral college count was certified and Biden is president. There is no legal mechanism to redo that. Any which way you slice it, you're engaging in evil treason.
Statements by witnesses are generally considered evidence, much like the statements of the witnesses in both impeachments and the 1/6 hearings, right?
You realize the 'popular vote spread' is a specious piece of ridiculousness, right? I mean you have heard of the EC, right?
So your final retort is that its too late to change it doesnt matter? Does that prove your assertion that the election wasn't stolen? Lol, no.
Over 2 dozen illegal election rule changes found by the courts accounting for tens of thousands of ballots.
Go on.
TRUMP SAID HE LOVED VIRGINIA NAZIS, MIKE WALLACE TOLD ME SO!!!1111!!!11!!!
All of Trump’s ‘lies’ were less damaging than Obama’s Lie of The Year which cost millions of people billions of dollars and killed many.
As long as someone, somewhere, does something even slightly wrong, Trump is innocent.
They let you people vote?
thankfully, there were fewer of them than they all seem to think.
Yes. Trump lacked armies of the dead to put him over.
are you trying to make an allusion to the false idea that dead voters put Biden over the top? political parties get voter data after every election.... including who voted and who did not.... if there were any validity to that claim, there would be evidence that the political parties would able to easily provide....... and there are many MAGA loving state chairs that would eagerly provide such evidence.... (in other words.... there was no army of the dead for Biden, or those who REALLY REALLY want to believe that would have given us all the evidence we would need to prove it.)
What’s up with your retarded use of punctuation?
in other words, you can't find a single rational argument to make against what i have said.
it's how he learned to operate from his mentor, Roy Cohn... you know, the guy who served up political fodder for the religious right while privately sucking every dick he could fit in his mouth till the AIDS got him... he groomed Trump for decades
Careful. You'll find there's a really weird level of defense and support for Trump from a lot of Reason commenters.
Or the new asshole will discover the number of TDS-addled shitpiles who are here.
Again, TDS runs both ways.
Possibly, but in this case, it's one direction alone. Stuff your TDS up your ass.
Trump is a hell of a lot more honest than some leftist faggot who chose to name itself "UltraModerate" for gaslighting purposes
This is like when Jeff Mike or sarc start a statement with "as a libertarian"
What's the problem? The Supreme Court has long held that the Fifth Amendment's due process clause imposes certain standards on the government, including the burden of proof and what type of evidence it can use against a criminal defendant. New York Attorney General Letitia James has made it clear she was going to run a partisan witch hunt against Trump. Trump is under no obligation to help her.
Exactly! Taking the fifth - was a big middle finger to the NY AG - not an admission of guilt - in spite of Trumps prior rumblings...
The guilty don't have to self-incriminate, yes.
The article above said there is no problem.
There's not a problem; he has the right to take the Fifth just like anyone else. It does make him look like a hypocrite (unless he's guilty, in which case he's more consistent.)
"I decline to answer on the grounds that my answer could be used against me in a frame-up prosecution."
Trump, at least until he is immunized, is entitled to rely on the Fifth Amendment.
Those opposing him in civil litigation are likely to be entitled to rely on adverse inferences deriving from his refusal to provide evidence.
Blowhards and hypocrites have rights, too. But not always the right to avoid consequences for misconduct.
Even asshole bigots have rights, asshole bigot.
No, taking the 5th isnt something only the guilty do, but in Trump's defense, he did it in a civil action. Not criminal like some (all?) of the examples give.
If Trump has a lawyer worth anything at all, he knows to never talk to the police.
https://vimeo.com/683887548
Especially when they’re democrat lackeys.
TDS trolls out in force today.
Let he who has never made a bombastic comment lacking subtle nuance make the first tweet.
I mean, really, has anyone ever said anything for effect to have it not age well? Like, most Reason articles …
Yes! The Orange Man is Bad and he's back and he's gonna save our flagging ad revenue!
Trump was a dumbass to have said that in the past. Trump says a lot of dumbass things. He lets himself get baited into them, also, which is why it's especially important for him to exercise the fifth.
Him taking the fifth today is a big nothing-burger. He knows the New York AG is desperate for something to make a case against him, and it's only rational to avoid saying anything to her investigators. They're not interested in truly investigating, they're looking for any way to perjury-bait him.
Gotta love how "criminal justice reform" obsessed Reason goes after Trump for some shit he said at some point, yet makes no objection to political persecution and actual injustice by authorities
Reason gave up all credibility years ago.
Indeed
Lemme get this straight. Conservatards have finally discovered that criminal justice in America is unfair and that we should defund the police.... now that Trump is in trouble.
I am Trump and Trump is me! Nothing outside the Trump!
Only guilty people would want to defund the police.
Conservatives love the local constabulary who implicitly promise to keep black people off their lawns, but they hate the feds who have a sneaky habit of escorting black children into newly integrated schools.
It's all very consistent.
cite?
Early Trumpers.
oh, perhaps you were just trolling....
i guess one must vent their hatred somehow
Fuck you, Joe Lancaster. You are no libertarian to criticize someone acknowledging the validity the 5th amendment.
you should learn to read..... the point was all the times trump and some other dirt bags refused to acknowledge the validity of the 5th..... until it suited them, personally.
Letitia James campaigned specifically on finding a crime that Trump committed. I’m surprised Joe didn’t mention that.
Hahaha I’m just kidding, I’m not surprised he didn’t mention that.
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/james-promises-more-scrutiny-of-trump-if-elected-state-ag/article_9d80ae56-4fc7-55d3-bc2e-e7320d50bad6.html
Seriously, shouldn’t libertarians have a serious problem with prosecutors campaigning specifically to arrest someone? Guess not if it’s Orange Man Bad.
Letitia James campaigned specifically on finding a crime that Trump committed.
If this was an honest article that would have been in the lead.
"lock her up!"
Problems campaigning to arrest someone? Sounds a lot like a bill of attainder, if you squint a bit, doesn’t it?
"Seriously, shouldn’t libertarians have a serious problem with prosecutors campaigning specifically to arrest someone?"
so, chanting "lock her up" at campaign rallies should be a big no-no..... shouldn't it?
If it's rallies composed entirely of cops, prosecutors, judges and AG's, fuck yes.
What the hell is wrong with you?
you do realize, that your response makes absolutely no sense, right? you are trying to add qualifiers to the original statement that don't exist.... that never existed.
Lol.
He wasn’t running for prosecutor, it wasn’t his stated purpose for running, he was referring to something that she’d already done and was out in the open, and while president he didn’t, you know, actually lock her up.
Letitia James ran as a prosecutor with the intent of prosecuting a particular person for no particular crime, then immediately after being elected began investigating him. Prosecutors are supposed to have the crime first, then prosecute who committed the crime, not the other way around.
Do you imagine being obtuse is impressing anyone?
"He wasn’t running for prosecutor,....."
how is it possible to be this fucking stupid? he was running for the top executive position in the country, and you want to play some stupid "he wasn't running for prosecutor" BS..... this is one of the lamest trump loving defense attempts i have seen.
So that’s a yes on being obtuse. Thanks for the honesty.
he was just running to be the Federal Prosecutor's boss... totally, totally not the same thing lol
Which he was for four years. And she wasn’t locked up. Why is this so complicated for you morons?
"...so, chanting "lock her up" at campaign rallies should be a big no-no..... shouldn't it?..."
Folks, this is the sort of imbecilic comment expected of a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit.
Note that this asshole attempts to equate chants at a political rally with the stated campaign aims of a candidate during an alection.
How stupid is this? Well, on a scale of "stupid" = 0 and "intelligent" - 10, it's somewhere in the negative numbers.
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled pile of shit.
yes.... because blind trump worship is what makes sense..... but consistent application of principles does not...
trump promising prosecutions (that he lied to you, because he never did it) is totally cool, but anyone else doing the same thing is totally wrong....
You’re quite the simpleton.
look in the mirror....
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shitpile.
so your implication is Trump didn't mean the things he said to crowds in order to whip them up? he lied?
Did he lock her up?
No?
James is targeting him for nothing.
Judging by the comments I would say that Trump is right he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it.
Trump has every right to plead the fifth amendment, just as does every other American. But you cannot have two standards, if it an admission of guilt for one, it is an admission of guilt for all.
I am not a lawyer. I do believe that a prosecutor cannot use taking the fifth again a defendant but a plaintiff in a civil case can use it against a defendant and this is a civil case.
What whiny horseshit.
As R Mac pointed out Letitia James campaigned specifically on tying Trump to a crime and taking him out.
Imagine if a prosecutor swore in their election campaign that they were going to come after you and hang you for something, anything. Then imagine they launched the anti-M4E witchhunt and demanded you come talk to them.
Would you take the fifth?
You'd be insane if you didn't.
The thing is Joe Lancaster is lying by omission above. And because I know that you know about Letitia James treasure hunt, you're doing the same.
I did not say that Trump was wrong to take the fifth, I said there needs to be one standard. If you grant no quarter to Lois Lerner or Bryan Pagliano, then you grant no quarter to Donald Trump. Consistency is important.
it wasnt trump that grants quarter... he only granted his opinion
There is one standard. Different opinions on the use, but the constitution is the standard.
Lerner admitted she did what she is being criticized for.
FOX News was running with "Why not Hunter?" for a surprisingly hefty portion of the night. They must think you people are the biggest morons in the fucking universe.
You want to know a story I've heard many times, and what I've experienced in my own life? People, for one random reason or another, find themselves not watching FOX News for a week or two. Maybe even watching CNN instead. Their relatives report that they have stopped saying irrational, hysterical nonsense, and aren't just better informed about reality but are actually calmer, more normal people.
I've never heard of a liberal watching FOX News and starting to get angry at whatever minority they're targeting that week. Most of us can't stomach more than five minutes of their lies, and we worry for the blood pressure of their victims.
"They must think you people are the biggest morons in the fucking universe."
Evidently they weren't aware of Tony and his friends then.
So according to you people who start watching CNN are reported as being better informed and less irrational. Yeah thta's what I call bad reporting.
As for what minority they're targeting this week, when do they target any minority? Tony you've never watched anything you don't agree with, have you?
I thought I explained that I keep very close tabs on the horseshit they're feeding you. Also, I'm here all the time.
What about you? Big NPR fan?
Personally, I enjoy watching news that reminds me how stupid and disgusting republicans are nonstop. It’s comforting to know that a news channel has adopted democrat political branding. They’re smart people, and by god, if they embrace my politics, that means I’m smart, too. Plus it gives me ammo to use against those stupid deplorables and their Hitler. Fox News never does that.
Still, I don’t see how you can stay calm knowing that the worst attack on our democracy ever happened just a year ago, with the support of half the country. They’re all literal Nazis at this point. Any response that saves the republic from them is warranted, no matter what the constitution is “supposed” to say.
This is war. Worse than Pearl Harbor.
50 centers are getting dumber.
Has to be parody
Unfortunately, like OBL, it's parody that precisely mimics leftist psychosis. The only indication it isn't sincere is that it's relatively straightforward
First they have to stop winning elections by "legitimate" means. The only reason they're permitted to flap their stupid faces in public at all is because US law gives cousin-fucking rubes 10 times the political power of educated people, purely by accident.
But if they do keep losing elections despite themselves, they'll get real mad and start blowing shit up, and at some the fact that they're aren't Muslim or black will stop protecting them from the war on terror.
So, you have ten times the political power of me?
Once we get rid of traitors like Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema from the Senate in November, we can pack the Supreme Court and interpret the first amendment any way we want. Who says disgusting republicans should have any right to shout their treasonous lies in the public square? That’ll put an end to their treason real quick, and it’s just what they have coming to them.
Of course, that assumes we hold the house.
I’m sure we’ll win the “real” election regardless, of course: the popular vote. And if we don’t, it’s only because the voters were hoodwinked by Faux News and Orange Hitler.
Counting the days until we can silence republicans forever. If there’s one thing I can’t stand about those racist cousin-fucking Nazi Republican rubes, it’s their bigotry.
People freely choose whether to be Republicans. It's okay to be "bigoted" against people who choose to be identified as terrible.
Taking the fifth is a sensible and moral action in many circumstances. But I can't help but think if you're working for the government you should have to answer questions about what you did in government. Maybe not under oath but you should have to answer.
one thing i do have to grant the Cheeto worshipers is that this specific investigation does not have anything to do with what he did in government, if i understand correctly. it is more of a deep dive into his business to find shady practices that his political contributor status previously shielded him from.
It didn't shield him from the IRS who already spent seven years doing exactly that.
ummmm.... OK, whatever.... the audit was from before he did anything political, and was just his excuse to not release tax returns...... they didn't spend 7 years on it, he just spent 7 years not wanting to show his returns. you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that audit was politically motivated. (if you look into political rivals who got slammed with audits when he was president though.....)
Her investigation is focused on property evaluation common to real estate backed loans. Standard acts used across the industry. She is just a fucking idiot just like you are.
in other words..... you are acknowledging that the person i was responding to is as full of shit as you are....
Are you Kathy Newman?
are you my mummy?
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled asshole.
"...ummmm.... OK, whatever..."
Get back to us after you pull your head out of your ass, steaming pile of lefty shit.
make an actual argument or fuck off, retard.
……nEedS MoAr……..
"...one thing i do have to grant the Cheeto worshipers..."
Notice how the adolescent shits who are afflicted with raging cases of TDS think bullshit like this represents clever repartee'?
Pretty sure there is a term for assholes like this: I-G-N-O-R-M-U-S.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Sorry: I-G-N-O-R-A-M-U-S; that'll do just fine.
notice how the fucktards can't be bothered to actually address the argument being made.
Fucking TDS addled steaming pile of lefty shit:
"notice how the fucktards can't be bothered to actually address the argument being made."
Notice how the TDS-addled steaming pile of lefty shit has yet to offer anything other than bogus claims? Steaming piles of lefty shit tend to be stupid enough to confuse their fantasies with 'arguments"
Fuck off and die; make the world a better place, shitpile
oh boy.... you really made me feel bad with your boring insults not worthy of a 3rd grader...
You certainly should feel bad as a steaming pile of lefty shit incapable of imagining, let alone posting, an argument.
Eat shit and die, asshole
lefty, lefty, TDS, eat shit and die....
do you like the internet message boards because you were laughed off the playground with your weak shit?
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shitpile.
What argument? That people worship cheetos? That’s…….not………..an………actual……………….…argument.
r.…e………..t……a…………r………d…
poor little dumbfuck can't understand anything in a post past the first half of the first sentence...
Steaming pile of TDS-addled shit called on bullshit once more.
Fuck of and die, asshole.
sad sad little trumpsucker.... can only repeat the same three lame insults over and over without ever making anything resembling a rational argument.
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shitpile.
hahahahaha....
polly want a cracker?
TDS, TDS, fuck off and die...
See how that turned out for Michael Flynn...
Sorry - but talking to the police is like bringing your own rope to your hanging...
After all these years, it better be good.
https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1557384869596090369?t=OUAOrJDtOauXmXeroLSQ1w&s=19
The IRS is hiring new special agents!
Requirements include working min “50 hours per week, which may include irregular hours, and be on-call 24/7, including holidays and weekends” and “Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary.”
They “will combine accounting skills with law enforcement skills to investigate financial crimes.”
“all income earned, both legal and illegal, has the potential of becoming involved in crimes which fall within the investigative jurisdiction of the IRS Criminal Investigation.”
While these newly hired feds are required to “Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary,” the government adds that “Criminal Investigation Special Agents are part of a diverse workforce that mirrors the taxpaying public we serve.”
“Between March 1 and June 1, 2022, the criminal division of the IRS ordered $696,000 in ammunition, the IRS told VERIFY in an email.”
In a 2018 report, the IRS was shown to generally spend $675,000 on ammunition a year in the previous seven years.
[Screenshots, links]
https://twitter.com/RonColeman/status/1557435291534778370?t=I2biyMXBhklTzj4D2oE7RQ&s=19
From a so-called correspondent re the Mar-a-Lago raid:
"Important to remember that two circuits have found - in People vs. Orange Man (DC Cir 2021) & Good People vs. Literally Hitler (9th Cir. 2020) - that 'Orange Man Bad.'
"IOW there’s an element of_stare decisis_ here"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/florida-man-concealed-firearm-kills-gunman-who-threatened-shoot-crowd
Trump says idiotic/outrageous things, but has good policy. The rest of the swamp say "nice things", but outright lie, and have terrible policy.
"They" (all the swamp dwellers, Ds and Rs) can not allow Trump to continue to influence. He facilitates reduction of government, and must be silenced.
Reason is completely short sighted in focusing on trivial hypocrisy. ALL swamp politicians are complete hypocrites. ALL! No recent politician has done more for reducing government than Trump, since perhaps Regan. The rest is noise.
Thank you.
TDS-addled assholes are entirely too stupid to focus on outcomes; the inputs of 'nasty tweets' are all-important to adolescent shits with HS sophomore mentalities.
The lot of them need to grow up and deal with reality rather than the gossip about who is going to the dance with whom.
See Foo-asshole and Brandyshit above.
Meant as reply to Thoritsu
TDS, eat shit and die....... i am so clever....
-sevo
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shitpile.
eat shit and die, TDS..... i can't come up with anything more original than that.
-sevo
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shitpile.
Spelling democrat l-i-b-e-r-t-a-r-i-a-n by no means changes a persons outlook, they are still a democrat. And outlook becomes look out. Not only that but Reason has none, and are all copsuckers as well. Has Reason figured out what causes inflation yet? Is Reason snuggling up to China as well? Leason...
Anyone who is pleased by FBIs performances I will remind them it was the FBI that blew Vicky Weaver's head off while she was holding her baby. Vicky's brain matter and skull shard splattered her older daughter's face. Vicky's son was already dead as was the boys dog that barked at trespassers which caused them to silence the dog. All to 'keep the children safe' the big cheese FBI pig would tell reporters over and over. Was this before or after Waco ? I don't recall. But how much tax dollars did government have to pay Mr Weaver? Millions and just because Weaver visited distant neighbors who were Aryan of which I am sure several members were agents. Pardon me, "Special Agents". That title means absolutely nothing and I hope Mr Trump gets elected and shuts these bastards down. Committing crimes does not stop crime. And take your toadies the ATF with you. Liars, thieves and killers, the 3 things I hate the most.
Lock him up!
Lock him up! Long overdue.
I bet all those "law and order" conservatives are right there with us.
Let's give Trump credit for saying something he may well have believed to be true and then providing actual evidence in support of it...
There is a difference between a fair trial and a fixed witch hunt.
Trump is saying he will not participate in this political embarrassment, if you have evidence bring it. This is an AG that campaigned on "getting Trump". Why would Trump say anything she could twist and misconstrue? I would do the same thing in his place. The fact Reason refuses to bring up the partisan nature of this AG just shows they still suffer from TDS.
Wait til Trump argues to not unseal the warrant when it clearly states what they're after.
Face it you cult loser- your god king is finally having to answer for just a smidgen of his crimes.
Get fucked Donnie! You and all your fascist pals.