Jon Stewart Accuses GOP of 'Cruelty' for Wanting Minor Amendments to Pricey Veterans' Bill
Senate Republicans have raised reasonable objections that legislation covering veterans' health conditions linked to toxic burn pits will allow for more spending on unrelated items.

A technical dispute over how to account for spending on veterans' healthcare in an otherwise popular bipartisan bill has blown up into a high-profile, politicized controversy thanks to the unhelpful intervention of Jon Stewart.
The comedian has gone on the warpath against Senate Republicans, in particular Sens. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) and Pat Toomey (R–Pa.), for successfully stalling the passage of the Honoring our Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics Act (PACT) Act last week.
The bill would expand Veterans Affairs (V.A.) benefits for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans who have developed a long list of conditions linked to exposure to toxic burn pits.
Veteran advocacy groups say the current system makes it too hard for servicemembers to get health coverage for burn pit–related conditions. Fiscal hawks have criticized the bill for expanding entitlement spending without paying for it. Some conservative wonks argue the eligibility criteria in the bill would have taxpayers covering government veterans' health conditions that aren't linked to their service.
The bill is "not going to seriously study what conditions might be caused or exacerbated by burn pits, it's not trying to measure the extent to which any service member was exposed to burn bits," says David Ditch, a policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation. "It's just saying that if you were an Iraq or Afghanistan veteran and you have a broad array of medical problems, it is presumed to have been caused by burn pits."
Senate Republicans mostly support the bill's substantive provisions. Their objections instead rest on more technical concerns that the PACT Act's conversion of existing discretionary veterans' spending to mandatory entitlement spending would open the door to additional federal largesse unrelated to veterans' healthcare.
"The PACT Act as written includes a budget gimmick that would allow $400 billion of current law spending to be moved from the discretionary to the mandatory spending category," said Toomey last week. "This provision is completely unnecessary to achieve the PACT Act's stated goal of expanding health care and other benefits for veterans." (He's offered an amendment to address these concerns.)
Stewart, a longtime advocate of the bill, said outside the Capitol last week after Republicans stalled the bill, "I'm used to the lies, I'm used to the hypocrisy. … But I am not used to cruelty."
"The difference between mandatory and discretionary is… that's just a word salad that [Cruz is]spewing into his coffee cup on his way to God knows where as veterans sit in Washington, D.C., and the sweltering heat, demanding that they pass this legislation that they have been fighting for, for 15 years," Stewart said to Chuck Todd on Meet the Press over the weekend.
"[Senate Republicans'] critique is absolutely accurate," Marc Goldwein, senior policy director at the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, tells Reason. "This bill could cause up to $400 billion of increased discretionary spending on anything and everything. We don't know how much this is going to cost."
Currently, the V.A. health system offers coverage to veterans for a range of conditions and health problems related to their military service. The bill would expand health benefits to automatically cover conditions 23 conditions—including several types of cancer, leukemia, and bronchitis—for veterans who were stationed in 17 countries during particular times, including in Iraq during the Gulf Wars and in Afghanistan following 9/11.
The bill would treat new spending on this coverage as mandatory spending, meaning that it's not subject to the yearly appropriations bills that Congress passes. The new spending would be on autopilot, like Social Security and Medicare. Importantly, it would also convert a lot of existing, discretionary veterans' health spending into mandatory, entitlement spending.
A June analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found that the bill would raise overall spending by $277 billion over ten years and convert an additional $390 billion of existing, discretionary spending into mandatory spending over the same time period.
The upshot of making more spending on such benefits mandatory is that Congress doesn't have to find the money for them when it's writing up annual spending bills. But by relieving Congress of the need to find $40 billion to spend on benefits for veterans each year, they'll have more room to spend that $40 billion on other discretionary programs without increasing overall discretionary spending at all.
Stewart and others have dismissed this by noting that there's nothing in the PACT Act that would spend money on things other than healthcare for veterans.
That's true. But it also misses the point.
"We don't know how appropriators are going to react," Goldwein says. "I think we can surmise that if their spending needs are lower because $40 billion a year, on average, has been removed from something they need to fund, they're going to feel like they have more wiggle room to spend on other things."
Some Democrats have already said as much. Sen. Jon Tester (D–Mont.) told Roll Call that the PACT Act's shift to mandatory spending makes budget writers' jobs much easier by relieving them of the need to find money for the new benefits in the annual appropriations process.
Another criticism offered by Stewart is that many of the Republicans opposing the PACT Act as written also voted for a substantively identical one in June, when the bill passed the Senate on an 84-14 vote.
"It's always been mandatory spending. No gimmick, no trick, been there the whole fucking time," he said in a Friday video monologue.
A Message to and from Mister Senator Ted Cruz…Attorney at Law#PassthePactact pic.twitter.com/QjGRGdPmq4
— Jon Stewart (@jonstewart) July 29, 2022
Manhattan Institute scholar Brian Riedl says many Senate Republicans voted to move the PACT Act forward in June on the belief that they'd have a chance to offer amendments addressing the discretionary vs. mandatory spending issues later in the process.
But that didn't happen in the House. Then this past week, Senate Democrats tried to move the bill forward without allowing consideration of amendments.
Riedl attributes Democrats' unwillingness to accept the Toomey amendment, which would keep $400 billion in current veterans' healthcare spending as discretionary, as pure political gamesmanship.
"They could fix this problem easily and pass the bill," he says. "But by not fixing it and not allowing any amendments to fix it, they were able to spend the weekend generating headlines that Republicans hate veterans."
"I don't think this was an intentional effort, at first, to backfill the discretionary budget," says Goldwein, contra Riedl. "I think this was a complicated budget issue they are trying to work through."
Stewart's moralizing antics over what is essentially a bookkeeping issue haven't helped.
His supposed value add as a political commentator and comedian was always that he could cut through the made-for-television partisan fights designed to conceal how Democrats and Republicans were essentially in agreement on some misguided policy.
But with the PACT Act, he's done the exact opposite. Stewart has inflamed a minor and largely technical dispute about a flawed bill with massive bipartisan support into a life-or-death struggle between greedy Republicans and sick veterans. At best, that's presented an inaccurate picture of the debate over the bill. At worst, it's obscured the fact that both Republicans and Democrats support a major, unfunded expansion of veteran healthcare benefits for conditions that, in many cases, aren't plausibly connected to their service.
The Senate will likely hold another vote on the bill early this week.
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"The difference between mandatory and discretionary is… that's just a word salad"
Wow.
I think a word salad has to be multiple words anyway. So mandatory and discretionary are more like word baby carrots, or word tomatoes.
Word man vs word women... very unclear on the definitions.
You mean word birthing person vs word non-birthing person?
This year I learned that recession, difference, insurrection, woman and insider trading all have different meanings than what I thought. At this rate kids in 2032 aren't going to be able to understand shows from 2012.
Stewart has gone full Prog. "Things that are opposite are exactly the same!"
He's always been a disingenuous douchebag. He's played the same concern troll role for over 20 years; "Both sides are sooooo dysfunctional, but Republicans, amirite?"
I guaran-fucking-tee he doesn't give a shit about this bill, either; the Democrats are just trotting him out like they did with another late-night relic, Robert Smigel, to use as cat's paws because they think this is still 2005.
I really used to enjoy the guy...
Now he has episodes of his new show 'the problem with whiteness'...
He has gone full prog retard mode.
This is another perfect example. Asking for an amendment that would still give you the money but not give you inflation exploding extra fun money is the responsible thing to do. Him having a tantrum because the dems didnt get their poison pill is telling.
I do not think he's changed as much as you would like. He's always been of this sort. He also has long done the thing of ripping into people and when they respond falling into the stance that he's a comedian.
He's always been a coward.
thats fair. I may have been blinded by some bush2 resentment
I may have been blinded by some bush2 resentment
^
Same. The transition worked for the Daily Show because Clinton-hating Kilborn & Co. left and Bush-hating Stewart & Co. came in right about when the administrations changed, and the satire never faltered (although after the transition, mostly it was only Stewart who was funny, whereas before they'd had A. Whitney Brown and Beth Littleford in addition to Kilborn).
I had to stop watching the show after Obama was elected, because it just became a nightly half-hour of Obama tongue-bathing and "what's wrong with those racist Republicans?"
He did occasionally do some decent interviews, though, and while I don't think he ever really was the "honest, decent guy just asking questions" he pretended to be, I do think that he's gotten worse in his descent into just naked, knee-jerk, shot-from-the-hip partisanship over the last several years.
Yeah, I never liked his politics but I thought he did well with interviews. Thoughtful questions, on topic. Kept it moving.
Didn’t even recognize him in that pic. And I forgot his name. Saw the headline and thought, ‘who?’
The left needs to be shown the door, and told things are going to get real fucking bad for them if they don’t take it. Anything else is about as useful as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Or trying to have an honest conversation with Pedo Jeffy.
He threw a tantrum when Rand Paul said he just wanted to make sure the 9/11 first responders bill was paid for too.
>gone
That implies some kind of transitory motion.
He was always full prog.
Despicable piece of shit that was, occasionally, somewhat entertaining before he got really popular and started thinking he was important.
That happens to the comedians: they tend to become political shills and then become boring. Happened to Bill Maher, happened to Stephen Colbert, happened to John Oliver and now happened to Jon Stewart. Those former comedians are now political shills and boring as heck.
I am a veteran .
Jon Stewart is not.
Stop helping me.
You don't win friends with salad.
*joins in behind*
'you dont win friend with salAD!'
No, only by tossing it, which Jon Stewart seems able to do well.
Reminds me of Don Lemon dismissing the difference between semi and full automatic as "semantics".
If these scumbags got their prescribed beatings, they wouldn’t be such a problem.
I like Stewart getting involved, and his efforts. He's already shown himself to be ignorant, misinformed, and totally lacking in concern regarding taking $400 million from workers, who are dealing with inflation and lowering standards of living. I also believe soldiers who've been harmed by burn pits, should be compensated, by taxpayers.
It's important to always point out, government taxation harms people before the money is spent; thus, first harms people. Look at it this way (an approach the political class abandoned after Bush promoted a senior drug program that seniors would pay for): Do you want to obtain your goods and services from the government, or free market vendors? Stewart's proposals harm people in the name of helping some.
toxic burn pits, is this what they call an area with a large group of leftists such as NY or CA?
O Lord, don’t give them ideas!
It's actually impressive how insufferable the pseudo-political-intellectual of Jon Stewart has become.
The irony that his response was exactly the kind of response Schumer was hoping for in order to gain a political win is so lost on the guy.
I don't think it's lost on him at all. He loves that they made this opportunity for him to grandstand, fake sincerity, appear outraged so he can score points his team while self-aggrandizing. I think he's one of the slimiest commentators on politics in all of media. The Daily Show was all about being deliberately misleading and then hiding behind, "We're not a news show, though, so it's okay that we're full of half-truths and bullshit! It's a comedy show!"
Fuck him.
Pretty much. His AppleTV show or whatever the fuck it is, isn't pulling in the numbers for the reason I mentioned above--he's a goddamned political dinosaur from an era where Dubya was Literally Hitler. He got a little bit of attention when he ambushed Andrew Sullivan and some danger-haired freak Sully through a struggle session, but he might as well have been in fucking Siberia, that's how irrelevant he'd become.
This is a total work to try and get Zoomers to tune in to his shit TV show, and give Millennials and late Gen-Xers some memberberries about the Daily Show.
He always was insufferable.
At best, he does not understand the problem with funding the bill the way the Dems have it, at worst he is intentionally invoking emotional arguments to cover for the Dems shenanigans.
Let's say the bill was perfect the way the Dems wrote it. There is still nothing absurd about amendments being brought up and discussion taking place around it. This idea that everything is an urgency is unhealthy.
It is odd, to me, that Schumer was in no way cruel for adding in provisions into the bill that the GOP had warned for months were a big problem and denied them any opportunity to change what were major problems.
Jon Stewart Accuses GOP of 'Cruelty' for Wanting Minor Amendments
Chemjeff school of emotional rhetoric in action. "Its cruel not to castrate trans children!", "It's cruel not to coyote illegals in", "It's cruel not to let drag queens strip for kids".
Typical Democratic grift. Sorta like this.
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-propose-800-billion-if-you-dont-vote-for-this-you-hate-puppies-spending-bill
As a veteran myself, what the fuck to I care what a non veteran thinks? I'm supposed to care what he thinks when he was above serving the country and now he wants the "Look at me attention"? Just made his money making fun of people who don't lockstep like himself.
Well, we non veterans pay the taxes that your services and benefits depend on and vote on the representatives that decide them. That’s why you should care what we think.
And becoming a murderer for hire for a regime that mostly fights wars over oil and money isn’t something to be proud of. Most young men do it out of the best of intentions and ignorance, which is why we should be kind to them. But you are on a libertarian site: you ought to know better by now.
That’s why you should care what we think.
So what do you think about a poseur wearing a fucking USO hat shrieking about legislation that is going to make a bunch of attorneys really wealthy and do nothing to avoid future reckless military engagements? And what have you done to hold your representatives accountable for using the military to fight wars over oil and money? Or do you think the rank and file serviceman vote over which shithole to invade next?
The rank and file servicemen made a voluntary choice to sign up to fight these wars over oil and money.
Cite that Angry Porcupine is a murderer?
And our present forign policy aside, how do you propose to protect your subsidiarity Stepford without men with weapons?
I didn't say he is a "murderer", I said that he has chosen to become a "murderer for hire". That means he is willing to accept money to perform killings other than self-defense.
With a voluntary, unpaid, domestic militia. Without a professional standing army, without foreign military bases, without foreign wars.
I didn't say he is a "murderer", I said that he has chosen to become a "murderer for hire". That means he is willing to accept money to perform killings other than self-defense.
I was going to make the opposite point as well. You didn't say he was a 'murderer for hire', there are plenty of heroes among veterans, police forces, and the general populace and, as a libertarian, signing up to collect a paycheck to drive supply trucks around a green zone at a death rate similar to having a delivery route on the south side of Chiraq isn't really any more admirable than becoming a murderer for hire.
That, too.
As libertarians, we should discourage kids from signing up for the US military by explaining to them the reality of what the US military is being used for, and by explaining to them what a bad decision it likely is for their personal future.
And we should get across that military or veteran status does not mean an automatically higher social status (though, of course, we should feel compassion for, and help, vets who got injured).
So, the only way you’ll respect me is if I got hurt?
Dork.
Does the word "compassion" have too many syllables for you? No, I won't respect you either way: you made a foolish choice and signed up to hurt other people in wars that clearly were not defensive. I simply feel sorry for you.
You made what you may have thought was a selfless choice when you signed up, you were hurt, and the institution that hired you under false pretenses and hurt you should pay for it. That's all.
No, got hurt in combat. Otherwise, you signed up to do a job the same way anybody else signed up to do a job. If you fell off the wing of an F-18 due to your own clumsiness and forgetfulness and fucked up your leg, you're owed no more respect than a construction worker who who fell of a scissor lift or a due to their own clumsiness and forgetfulness. If you fell off the wing of an F-18 because you were hit by machine gun fire or a paveway bomb blew up underneath the plane, yes, you deserve more respect than the dumbasses who can't stand on an F-18 or a scissor lift in calm conditions.
You really are a dumbfuck. I pay taxes too. What I don't like is watching Veterans who were injured or crippled on active duty while performing their duty, being neglected, while those with drug addiction issues (self-inflicted) get everything handed to them.
Did I advocate anywhere not supporting veterans?
We veterans also pay taxes. Also, I don't recall anyone I served with mentioning joining because they want to be a murderer for hire, protecting oil interests and making wealthy people wealthier. I do admit that is an issue though.
Angry Porcupine argued that he shouldn't have to care what non-veterans think. I'm just saying that as a practical matter, he does: non-veterans vote and non-veterans pay most of the taxes that provide services for him.
I don't question anyone's motives. Most people who sign up do so because they believe that they are going to be defending America. It's a laudable motive, but they happen to be wrong.
Military training is designed to change who you are as a person. One of the primary purposes of military training is to overcome your natural reluctance to kill other human beings. That is a choice you make when you sign up, whether you are aware of it or not.
But, again, that's what the US military is being used for.
And that issue won't be addressed if we keep mixing up compassion for veterans and respect for their actual choices.
The misuse of the US military for non-defense purposes is only possible because young people sign up for it voluntarily, after being lied to about its purpose and operation.
I would risk my life to defend this country against invasion. I will not take up arms to conquer oil fields in the Middle East so that European oil companies can make a profit.
Wanna know what he thinks? Seen his dispicable show. What's wrong with White people? He's a fk no good Jew just like Soros.
I have no interest in Jon Stewart's show, but Jewishness has nothing to do with it.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Jon was hardly a big supporter of our troops while they were fighting now he wants to act like he's our savior. Fuck off. Want to see how a real actor supports our troops? Look to Gary Sinese. That dude has class, and has put his time, energy and money to help wounded warriors without demanding the spotlight while doing it.
The upshot of making more spending on such benefits mandatory is that Congress doesn't have to find the money for them when it's writing up annual spending bills.
Libertarians for forever budgets.
Real question, has there been any additional work to reform the VA in general? Is it still an expensive and almost entirely non-functional piece of government bureaucracy or has it reformed somewhat?
I don't see veterans really anymore, and so I don't know.
If not though, that should be considered again. Really, we should be more reform minded in general instead of this fucking this of spending more money as a first instinct. Maybe in this case, it does require more funding to allow for a new group of injury, but there are more general problems at play here and money is often not the solution.
I heard some murmurs about a lot of the worst offenses being fixed under Trump's VA secretary, but of course you won't hear about it in the news if true and I haven't looked much into it, so I can't confirm. All I know is I remember a fairly large VA scandal as Trump was getting in to office and I've heard nothing specific about the VA since.
You know if there had been a fuckup under Trump you'd have heard about it.
Fortunately, no one gives a damn what Jon Stewart thinks.
I don't know how anyone listens to him. He's always seemed slimy to me. Something about how he approaches things, the way he speaks, I can feel someone there who is not operating in good faith. He's basically always been a political mouthpiece full of mock indignation and fake sincerity.
the way he speaks,
He speaks like a fucking urban cosmopolitan who's never been outside of New York City or Los Angeles in his life. That's why everything he says sounds so distorted from reality.
This is no different from all the other talking points and propaganda coming from Democrats. I mean you don’t really think the Inflation Reduction Act reduces inflation? You don’t really believe that this is the greatest economy ever?
Democrats flood Twitter and other sites with lies. And I mean “flood”. It’s an unrelenting stream of nonsensical garbage. But journalists pick it up and a narrative is born. Nobody bothers to fact check it look at the background, in particular if it sticks it to Republicans.
Next you're going to tell me the Affordable Care Act didn't make healthcare more affordable.
Or the Patriot Act wasn't patriotic.
Did you catch the stream of thoughtful "randos" on twitter defending Joe Biden with the exact same worded twitter message?
No offense, Dianne, but that doesn't narrow it down much. That's pretty much Twitter in a nutshell.
No, I hear you, it's just funny because people keep finding these streams of different "normie" accounts that have twitter messages like,
"Biden Needs time to get things done. He's a good president. We should support him and let the process play out. Let's go America!"
Hundreds, and hundreds and hundreds of times from different random normie accounts.
That crap drives me nuts.
One of the biggest reasons I haven't been on the reddits for years. Twtter has been a dumpster fire ever since they allowed hashtags and analytics.
The manipulation is SUPER obvious. For every academic study or takedown of a zillion Chinese accounts spreading Xi's message, or Russian disinformation campaigns, there are dozens of propaganda outfits doing exactly this. Funded by billionaires, or political parties (or individual politicians), or private companies...
I think Twitter likes it because it runs their numbers up. But it sure isn't real, in the sense that it reflects anything people believe in meatspace, at least.
The worst offender, by far, is the globalist/DNC.
They've been running the vast majority of bot armies for a decade plus.
Jon Stewart has been good at calling out BS and everything about the Republican actions looks like BS. Jon Stewart was at the Capital waiting for the bill to be passed, the last-minute rejection is what got his and many others anger up. Republicans for some reason handled this as poorly as possible.
We have a volunteer military and part of the deal is that you sign up, we take care of you. There might be many things that caused cancer, but exposure in the military is as likely as any and it does create and obligation.
Finally, this bill was good enough for Republicans on last go around and everything suggests there were little in the way of changes.
Ah yes, the Republicans calling out Democrats' purposeful political ploy to score political points is the problem, not the ridiculous attempt to tack on $400 billion in unaccounted for slush fund spending that the Dems pulled.
It's like saying it's the rape victim's fault for choosing the bat rather than the gun to defend herself.
Meanwhile IS on another board: "Democrats want trans women to rape children!"
Politics is not beanbag, and this isn't even discernibly partisan politics except to the extent that Republicans made it that way.
Wow, Tony. Please link to where I said such a thing?
This is some serious strawmanning. Well done.
Ok groomer.
You're mixing up two facts.
FACT: Democrats want to put biological males into women's only facilities.
FACT: Democrats want to drive sexual educational content into elementary school and are using "trans women" to do so.
There are about three lies in your two facts.
The only "lie" here is your continued denial of the facts, Tony.
And the poor little baby threw a temper tantrum because he didn't get his way. Maybe he should be directing his anger at the pork. Maybe he should be angry that they've already spent $6 Trillion + and left little room for one of the few legitimate things they should be spending on. The young men and women in our military that the feds use and abuse.
He doesn't care. He can afford it and assumes we will all pitch in and pay for it. Again. And again. And again. We all have unlimited money to pay for this and also for those who won't take responsibility for themselves. Right? We are a rich country. Right?
Just shows his and their economic ignorance and utter disregard for individual rights.
Everything about this process is the most standard process of legislation I can think of. A bill is in place, amendments are being suggested and attempting to be discussed. This is actually what it's supposed to be like.
Heightening every political interaction to a panic is not a moderate stance.
It is the process. And Schumer decided to demand a vote than discuss and debate the amendments. It was his goal to get this very reaction.
I'm actually impressed with Schumer. It was a brilliant way to score a quick political win. He knew exactly how the media and people like Stewart would frame the situation and he pulled the trigger on it.
Or. We can discourage people from volunteering and then we will have fewer wars.
In any event, these people signed up to kill people in “discretionary” wars for money.
Fuck them.
Another $400 Billion? Meh. Just print more money. What could possibly go wrong?
We have to talk about Jon Stewart because he's always operated in good faith, right? He's not some bullshit artist spreading misinformation that advances his own agenda, surely he'd never do anything like that.
Get fucked, Jon.
He's not some bullshit artist spreading misinformation that advances his own agenda
Who isn't at this point?
Jon Stewart pisses me off more than most because of how artificial he seems. He likes to jump into places he can get attention for himself at low opportunity costs, just to score cheap political points. And I feel like he's always been this, despite supposed claims that he used to treat both sides the same.
I never liked the guy or found him to be entertaining, though I've never seen any claims that he treats both sides the same.
I don't think anyone's made claims to that effect; it is one of the pretenses he's always liked to promote about himself, such as that fake-ass "both sides" schlock he threw out during that Crossfire episode.
Stewart's biggest sin is honestly advancing the idea that mere disagreement is "divisive" and something only "extremists" indulge in. One of the great things about Crossfire was the acknowledgement that people COULD disagree, but it didn't mean that you couldn't respect the person making the argument. Stewart turned that on its head by stating that ANY kind of political disagreement was "divisive," because vigorous disagreement was a threat to the advancement of his political ideology. He convinced about 1.5 generations that going against the left-liberal agenda didn't just mean you were mistaken but sincere, it meant you were an idiot and a horrible person that deserved to be mocked.
Guys like him are straight-up evil because their actions undermine civil society the whole time they're claiming to support it.
How is that different from Limbaugh or Hannity or Savage?
Or Beck or Levin or any other right wing rabble rouser?
None of them ever pretended to be anything other than political partisans. Stewart's a leftist who lies that he can't stand either side.
He also ruined the Daily Show. It was his idea to focus it politically. I remember a magazine article ages ago where he was bitching about how the humor went everywhere and made fun of everyone. And It was his idea to give it a all the same bent.
So not only is he a political hack, he’s an artistic hack.
This became self evident in the Obama years. He was savvy enough to step out of the lime light while he still had some sort of “credibility” and before shit on the show went total propaganda. But then he missed the pulse and a chance to be the first lefty to dabble actual controversy (like Maher) and so now he pulls shit like this.
It’ll probably work, too. For every person who sees right through him, there are 3 saying “what a great guy. He fights for veterans, and firemen, and puppies.”
It was mandatory spending the first time it passed. Not mentioning that is journalistic malpractice. The GOP is angry over the Manchin deal on reconciliation, and that's the real reason for the switch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XKXWDV2tVAo
Back when reason had balls
The very first part of that top 5 list being about vaccine mandates is the chef's kiss of linking this video from 2015.
Disagree. The VA portion was more relevant and the "Giving the government more money to get better results is like upgrading from a $5 to a $10 hooker in the hopes of getting a better STD." was more symbolic of Reason's lost ability to deliver a strong backhand to a bitch in need.
New Reason sucks, I miss Reason Classic.
You should never “deliver a strong backhand” to a $5 hooker.
The $10 ones kinda sign up for that though.
A whole 400 Billion? Shouldn't we be giving that over to Ukraine? They're at war you know.
Do away with the volunteer Army.
CB
Fuck Off, Military Slaver!
Indentured servitude is definitely better than slavery.
Make Congress declare war; a real war. That would trigger a draft.
Then make the congress critters go home and tell the moms and dads in their district why the war they just declared is important enough that the U.S. needs to draft their sons and daughters to be killed in... Syria? I doubt it. Afghanistan? I doubt it. Iran? Iraq? Kosovo? We wouldn't be drafting kids because suddenly, we wouldn't be going to war over shit that doesn't affect the U.S. When you have a million-soldier standing army, you feel the need to use it.
CB
There is no enslavement involved in defending the country with militias.
I love watching the Republicans get skewered on this one. It couldn't happen to a better group of people. Twist a pig's ear and watch him squeal.
Oh no the mean Republicans wouldn't give the dems a 400 billion dollar discretionary fund
Such stoic stewards of fiscal responsibility, those Republicans.
LOL! I love how Repubs can never win with you. They fight against spending and you go, "whatever." They propose less spending and you go, "whatever." They propose more spending and you go, "see, Repubs aren't fiscally responsible."
Tribalism is a mind rotting thing. I suggest you get away from it.
They actually reduced regulations and…. Crickets.
Republicans cut taxes and increased spending when they had control. They aren't even close to fiscally responsible.
Quit sucking GOP dick.
Easy bacchys, now tell me, where did the Republicans touch you?
They fight against spending and you go, "whatever." They propose less spending and you go, "whatever."
Au contraire, when they do those things he screams that they're evil racist monsters who hate children.
Square,
You're right, my bad.
People like Tony need to go.
To be fair, Tony's mind is likely rotting from Neapolitan Disease.
Let me get this straight. I'm supposed to give credit to Republicans for the things they lie about when they're in the minority, but not the things they actually do when they're in power?
You're a fucking cheap date... who gets roofied.
Twist a pig's ear and watch him squeal.
Pretty sure making fun of Jon's ears and calling him a pig is racist.
"Twist a pig's ear and watch him squeal."
Ah, so that's why you faggot leftists shriek about everything at all times.
"I love watching the Republicans get skewered on this one..."
I love watching lefty shitpiles make lying assholes of themselves.
Comedian Jon Stewart said, "I'm used to the lies, I'm used to the hypocrisy."
He should be used to them - he practiced them long enough.
A replay from the Civil War. Benefits originally went to widows and cripples. The veterans formed a lobbyist group and gradually got them expanded. That's how you ended up with a 20 year-old woman marrying a 90 year old veteran in 1925 and collecting a widow's pension until she died at 90 years old.
Wanna know what he thinks? Seen his dispicable show. What's wrong with White people? He's a fk no good Jew just like Soros. Why hide his last name? He's no more a Stewart than I'm a Goldstein.
I'm sure anyone named Goldstein would be glad of that fact. Again, Fuck Off, Nazi!
Are you a Misek sock?
Jon Stewart’s histrionics are boring.
That main photo makes me think he's carrying on for the homeless! 🙂
I was thinking that it's weird how Jon Stewart, Joe Biden, and Walt Kowalski can all cut the same figure and simultaneously come across as the biggest pussy you've ever met, the most bumbling, upward-failing dumbass you've ever met, and the most disgustingly prinicipled, hard-assed, son-of-a-bitch you've ever met. Almost like you should judge people by the content of their character or something.
How about we fix the fucking VA? Then we wouldn't need a stand alone problem to address shit the VA should be fucking addressing in the first place. I've been encouraged to go to the VA and get the arthritis in my back covered. Fuck that, not worth the fucking hassle at this point.
People have been talking about fixing the VA as long as I can remember. And yet it never seems to get fixed. Some people love it, and others hate it. The bottom line is that our country should be committed to helping those "who have borne the battle". I think part of the problem is that our knowledge of effects of war increases. I am sure that cancer was never considered a war related injury after WWII or Korea. It probably existed, but people just did not have the knowledge to know that fact. Now the knowledge is there and must be confronted.
Because orangemanbad, soldiermedic.
Oh, and because corrupt totalitarian faggots like moderation4ever manufactured illegitimate votes when working the polls in places like Madison, Wisconsin.
Why have a separate VA? As far as I can tell, medical services in the VA are worse than for the general public. And that's no surprise, given that it's a gigantic government bureaucracy.
Wouldn't it make more sense just to give every veteran the option to choose Medicare coverage? If necessary, add a supplement to cover any deductible related to injuries from military service.
If anything should be mandatory spending it's the healthcare costs of soldiers borne directly from their service.
And if Jon Stewart is unfairly hurting Republicans because they can't adequately explain themselves, good. Republicans are a self-sorted collection of the worst people in the country. I don't understand the problem here.
You don't see the problem because you don't look at the substance, you just look at political team affiliation to make a decision.
Your lack of credibility is complete.
How many times do I have to correct your confusion before it sinks in?
This whole thing is a comedy of ironies. I think the tribal impulse is possibly the most dangerous quality of humans in the modern world. If I could make tribalism go away, I would, even if it meant no more sports.
Plot twist: Cons are a self-sorted cult of banana Republican fascists who are in the process of reshaping society to something more their liking. More camps, and so on.
They're the enemy. and they must be destroyed to preserve a world where one day we'll get to sit down and have a nice meal without a fucking internet-addled Trump hillbilly shrieking in our ears from across the street.
And if you're still confused as to who the enemy is, you could just go look around and see all the fucking swastika tattoos.
Or gee yeah maybe these are the good Nazis.
You're right - you don't understand the problem. Add it to the list of other things you willfully ignorant of (including, apparently, the inability to read the very article at the top of this page).
Republicans are like all people, good and bad. But they did mess this up and Jon Stewart has every right to call them on the fact.
Narrator: Yet, in fact, Republicans didn't mess this up and Jon Stewart was not not to "call them" out on it.
You don’t give a fuck about veterans. Your just want to stick it to republicans.
Tony might have sympathy for Soviet veterans.
They can and do explain themselves adequately. People like you just like to lie about it.
The problem is that you are a lying p.o.s.
It should be.
This bill doesn't do that.
This bill spends $667 billion (!) on healthcare costs that are mostly unrelated to service, for about 12000 claims.
That is $55 million per veteran.
Just try to justify that, Tony. Go ahead.
Who elected Jon Stewart?
Did someone elect you to something? Maybe everyone is entitled to their opinion and to voice it.
Which means that everyone else is free to tell them where to stick it.
That’s absolutely fair. I wouldn’t suggest otherwise.
"Currently, the V.A. health system offers coverage to veterans for a range of conditions and health problems related to their military service." Technically true, but veterans use it also for regular health care for everything not related to military service. Veterans without any Service Connected problems can use it as their full health care privider.
Agreed. Despite Moderation4ever's assertions cancer wasn't, isn't, and shouldn't be considered a war related injury. Agent Orange causes Parkinsons, not cancer. The same Parkinsons that Gramoxone causes in native farmers. Even if Camp Lejeune knowingly dumped benzene into the drinking water, Camp Lejeune isn't a war zone any more than Flint, MI or the Coyahoga River is. Prostate and cervical cancer are, in no way, caused by war. Depleted Uranium is actually used as a shield against radioactive exposure in civilian applications.
For decades the rule of thumb regarding the incidence of environmental and occupational cancer has been ~6%. Even if the estimates are wrong by several fold, the majority of cancers aren't environmental/occupational. Even if they are, unless the specific cancer can be shown to be caused by the specific war, the handouts to people who simply drank water at Camp Lejeune is an insult to both brave combat veterans who actually laid their lives on the line and not-so-brave farmers who simply worked to put food on the table.
Regarding cancer from agent orange, please see,
H.Frumkin
Agent Orange and Cancer: An Overview for Clinicians,
CA: A Cancer Journal for Clinicians
July/August 2003 Vol 53, Iss 4
Yup. Right there in the summary "since dioxins contaminated the herbicide mixtures used in Vietnam". 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D, the two essential ingredients, are not generally regarded as carcinogens. They are both toxic as hell and will kill you acutely but not carcinogenic, the contaminant TCDD is carcinogenic [and acutely toxic], but the use/exposure is largely indistinguishable from background and the direct causality of cancer at the background-level doses is unsubstantiated. Read the research (the minimum safe level for dioxin carcinogenicity is not established largely because everybody gets exposed to dioxins naturally and a significant portion of people die of cancer), the history (from the 40s into the 80s 2,4,5-T and the associated TCDDs were still used throughout the Western World, of course, the US military stopped in the 70s), and the claims filed with the VA (psychotic symptoms despite none of the components having psychoactive effect, birth defects in wives who weren't primarily exposed to AO/TCDD [through the military], chain smokers claiming the dioxins in AO gave them cancer, total numbers of claims far exceeding the potential impact, etc., etc.) instead of cherry picking the data to fit your narrative. It's not even clear, today, that there is a measurable increase in the incidence of cancer from the spraying in Vietnam based on data impartial or sympathetic to people exposed to TCDD.
In case my above point wasn't clear because of units and conversion above, the background concentrations of dioxins in humans in the 70s was 50-100 pg/g and the mean concentration of dioxins from personnel exposed to Agent Orange was 23 pg/g. Doses of 56,000 pg/g are only associated with a slightly increased risk of cancer over 35 yrs.
Blaming the military (and, for agent orange, Dow Chemical) for cancer is like blaming the railroads for heavy metal poisoning from burning coal. You're essentially binding the taxpayers to an unconscionable contract through force of law.
And we need the money for more tax cuts if another GOP candidate gets selected by the electoral college.
Eat shit and die, Asshole.
First a note the herbicides 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D cannot be produced without the production of dioxins as a byproduct, a contaminant as you put it. Second dioxin as a carcinogen is not regulated as a threshold compound like 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D or H2S for that matter. So maximum dose does not apply here. Carcinogens are regulated by exposure risk. Typically, as a one in a million risk over a seventy-year lifetime. There is no way of knowing if exposure to agent orange cause an individual's cancer, but if they were exposed there is no way to rule it out. So, the question is this, if a person was exposed during their service to our country and now has a cancer associated with that exposure, do we support that person's health care or tell them TLC, "tough luck charlie". Same goes with the burn pits.
I don't think coal is a railroad coal is a good analogy, as coal has not been used for many years and we don't have epidemiological data for when it was heavily used. Better example would be exposure to benzene and PAH's from roadway exposure. If you leave near a high volume roadway you are more exposed, but it would be hard to link a cancer to that exposure. Living near a roadway is likely your choice. Working with agent orange or near a burn pit is your superior's choice.
First a note the herbicides 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D cannot be produced without the production of dioxins as a byproduct, a contaminant as you put it. Second dioxin as a carcinogen is not regulated as a threshold compound like 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D or H2S for that matter.
First note your general lack of understanding about chemistry. A grilled steak, smoked sausage, s'mores, cannot be produced without the production of dioxins as a byproduct and people routinely make the distinction that it's not the food, it's the preservatives/preparation that are causally-associated with cancer. Second, the 'threshold compound' stupidity you're stumbling over is the distinction between toxicity and carcinogenicity. And dioxins, unlike 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D have both a toxic dose and a carcinogenic dose.
So maximum dose does not apply here. Carcinogens are regulated by exposure risk. Typically, as a one in a million risk over a seventy-year lifetime.
Uh, you're cherry picking your data again. Just because you want to hand wave reality away doesn't mean it actually goes away. Your 'one in a million risk over a seventy-year lifetime' metric has to be causally and mechanistically associated with some sort of dose otherwise you're effectively binding the taxpayers to cover anyone who can claim they saw a barrel of agent orange opened or not. And, despite your assertions, the 'one in a million risk over a seventy-year lifetime' *is* frequently associated with a minimum dose.
There is no way of knowing if exposure to agent orange cause an individual's cancer
See, in legal parlance, this is well beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Again, it's becoming more and more obvious you don't actually care if any given veteran actually did develop cancer or didn't based on any given exposure, you're just trying to disgrace their service to freedom by binding taxpayers to unconscionable contracts through force of law.
In addition, we are talking about a bill authorizing $667 BILLION in spending.
There are currently 12000 burn pit-related health claims
Obviously, the bill is not about providing healthcare for veterans, because that would be an absurd amount of money even given current US healthcare costs.
If it's so cruel and such an outrage, then why wasn't Jon Stewart fired up about this issue back in 2021? Or 2020? 2019? 2018? or anytime back years and years ago? Obama never brought this issue up, and Stewart seemed fine with it for all the years he was in office. He's jumping in now to suddenly appear relevant.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/09/11/comedian-jon-stewarts-new-cause-help-veterans-sickened-burn-pits.html
If rich celebrities want to help, they have their own money to spend helping.
What does that have to do with my reply to John Rohan? Nothing. He was acting like Jon Stewart just came to this cause recently, asking where he was on it in previous years. I then pointed to an article from one of those years about him getting involved and “fired up” over it.
Job Stewart’s jokes always relied on you not knowing a damned thing about the topic.
They were hilarious if you were entirely dependent on him explaining the scenario.
Manhattan Institute scholar Brian Riedl says many Senate Republicans voted to move the PACT Act forward in June on the belief that they'd have a chance to offer amendments addressing the discretionary vs. mandatory spending issues later in the process.
The author of this piece, Christian Britschgi, could have backed up Brian Riedl's claim with actual quotes from those Senate Republicans. If that was really what was going on and why enough of them switched to No last week (fist bumps and all), then I'm sure several of those Senators could be quoted saying exactly that as their reasoning.
Instead, maybe this whole article is as full of shit as Ted Cruz and trying to polish it and make it shiny.
Riedl spent years of his career and as an advisor to Portman and Rubio. "Scholar" my ass.
Fuck off and die, Asshole.
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Yep, lefty shitpile is down with murder as a preventative measure.
Yes, they can be quoted. Cruz even talked at length about it on his podcast.
The attack on Republicans over these votes was a smear campaign and either you’re part of the smear campaign or you’re just a gullible propaganda victim.
I found an article that quotes Sen. Cornyn (R-Texas) as saying that Sen. Tester (D-Montana and chair of the relevant committee) had promised an up or down vote on the amendment Toomey wanted regarding the whole discretionary vs. mandatory thing. But the same article said that Tester denies that.
What I'm looking for is something from before the No vote last week indicating that such a promise existed. If Ted Cruz talked about it on his podcast before last Wednesday's vote, then that would be evidence of what you're saying being true.
Republicans have been trying to rein in the pork in this bill since June (here).
What you should be outraged over is that Democrats used the plight of veterans to push through a $667 BILLION spending bill. This covers 12000 claims of burn pit related illnesses. You do the math. And if you think that burn pit victims get $55 million each for healthcare, you're a fool.
Another question to ask is why the people who ordered the creation of these burn pits haven't been thrown into the deepest dungeon and the key thrown away.
But you don't ask those questions. You just beat up on Republicans using some victim group you otherwise don't give a f*ck about.
Celebrities are shallow, foolish jerks. We see it over and over.
I can't quite tell if Stewart is simply very passionate about this issue while simultaneously not knowing a shred of what was going on; or if he was knowingly dishonest on this issue and thought he could still be blatant and abusive enough with his grandstanding that he and his political ilk could still get out ahead by turning the GOPs initial no vote into a self-sustaining scandal. Either way, he acted like a giant man baby the whole way through and this has been going for months.
Just to be clear, the bill was voted on - in the belief that it could be changed later.... and John Stewart the idiot... for calling them out on it?
John Stewart's success was based in large part of making fun of political "word salad" WITHOUT offering actual solutions.
Hmmm, sorta like the Trumplicans.... except funny.
Which Senators had said that they switched their votes because of what you said, that it could be “changed” later? That also contradicts most of the reporting I’ve read that the only reason that there was a second vote was because they needed to fix some technical issue. I’d like to see some real evidence of this claim that they only voted against what they had previously voted for because they expected to be able to amend the bill that they were voting for, which, if it was amended, they would need to vote again anyway, so why not withhold their vote until it was amended?
It took me about 5 minutes after the No vote and the coordinated smear campaign on Twitter to figure out what was actually going on. Of course, most of the MSM were lying about it, but you could find analyses and statements if you searched.
You, of course, prefer to just participate in the smear campaign, either out of ignorance or out of malice.
Of course, most of the MSM were lying about it, but you could find analyses and statements if you searched.
I'm only going to spend so much time searching for something you claim to exist but don't seem to be ready to provide a link for.
Well, I provided a link. And, of course, you have Google as well. But it won't matter because you don't care about the truth. You're an ignorant bigot who doesn't give a f*ck about injured veterans. To you, they are just a convenient political pawn to justify $667 BILLION in new spending, money that those veterans are never going to see.
From the link you provided:
Toomey said he has not been offered an amendment vote by Democratic leadership, disputing an assertion from a Schumer that he had offered Toomey an amendment at a 60-vote threshold, but that Toomey turned it down because Toomey wanted the changes added to the bill, not just voted on as an amendment.
The assertion I'm skeptical about is that the Republicans that had previously voted for it, but then switched to voting against it last week on Wednesday, had voted for it in June expecting to be able to vote on amendments. That is, that they had been promised a vote on amendments or they wouldn't have voted in favor it back then. But Toomey said he just wanted the change over mandatory vs. discretionary simply added to the final bill, not a vote on an amendment, especially not one that would need 60 votes.
Schumer said,
"I don't know where they came up with this," Schumer said at a news conference. "We offered Toomey -- he's standing in the way -- the ability to do an amendment at 60 votes just like the bill is a 60-vote bill. He insisted, at least in conversations with some others, saying 'no, no, no. If you don't put it in the bill,' which will kill the bill, 'I'm not going to be for it.' I stand by the offer."
I'm still not seeing the original claim that I was talking about being supported.
o you, they are just a convenient political pawn to justify $667 BILLION in new spending, money that those veterans are never going to see.
I'm pretty sure that's wrong on the facts. The dispute between Republicans and Democrats over this was that something close to $400 billion of existing discretionary spending would get moved to mandatory. Republicans are arguing that this would allow Democrats room under current budget and spending rules to increase total spending without having to cut other things or find new revenue to pay for it. But the bill itself does not create as much new spending as you are claiming. Still a lot, no doubt. And it isn't all just for burn pit cases, but vets exposed to Agent Orange and other things would also benefit from it. That is why the cost will be so high. It will affect a lot of veterans.
But it won't matter because you don't care about the truth. You're an ignorant bigot who doesn't give a f*ck about injured veterans.
You never seem to go long before making these kinds of personal attacks. As a reminder,:
What I'm looking for is something from before the No vote last week indicating that such a promise existed.
I still haven't seen that, as your link was to an article written after the vote and doesn't include any statements from anyone about any such promises made before the vote. If you won't show me facts that back up your claims, then it isn't me that is the ignorant one.
I didn't claim that anybody promised anything to anyone. I said that the GOP wanted to get a vote that forces the Democrats to go on record with new spending, but that they were finally going to vote for the bill no matter what. So all those claims that "the GOP hates veterans" were lies.
Yes: since you and the people who pull your propaganda strings didn't have anything on the GOP, since you knew that the GOP actually didn't hate veterans, you needed to move the goalposts and fabricate a distraction. The link I provided doesn't provide evidence for your moved goalposts, it provides evidence that you moved the goalposts.
I never stop making those kinds of personal attacks on you: I think you are a dishonest partisan and a vile human being, and I will continue to state that when I think people need reminding. I will continue to remind people of that even on the rare occasions where we actually agree on something. Is that clear enough for you?
I didn’t move any goalposts. Reread my OP. I was always questioning the assertion from the think tank guy that Republicans were promised a vote on amendments before a final vote on the bill. That is because the whole thing came about because some two dozen GOP senators that had voted for it in June voted against moving to a final vote last week. The dispute, in my eyes isn’t whether Republicans “hate” veterans, but whether their explanations for their change in votes makes sense and is consistent with facts.
You say you think I am a “dishonest partisan and vile human being”. From my perspective, I see you regularly misstate or misunderstand what I’ve said and attribute to me what you don’t like about everyone else with different political views. I view your venom directed at me as more a product of your own biases than anything I’ve ever said or thought.
And who the f*ck cares what some think tank guy thinks? That's a red herring.
What matters is why the GOP voted the way they did, and it's clearly not because they "hate veterans", as bullshit Democrat propagandists have claimed.
The problem here is that you yourself don't understand what you're saying.
You don't think at all, as far as I can tell.
What matters is why the GOP voted the way they did, and it's clearly not because they "hate veterans", as bullshit Democrat propagandists have claimed.
That's what matters to you. And I've never indicated that I agree with the idea that this vote indicated that the GOP "hates veterans". Which is hyperbole anyway, as even Jon Stewart didn't say that. He considered their vote to be "cruel", but as a matter of what he saw as putting political games ahead of the needs of veterans, not of actual "hate". The bottom line here is that you've been arguing against a position I've given no indication that I hold, agree with, or even that I haven't paid enough attention to it. My point has always been that this article was itself putting a spin on the situation, so to argue that I'm buying into some Democrat propaganda is pretty rich.
The problem here is that you yourself don't understand what you're saying.
I understand what I am saying fine. You simply think that I am saying something that I am not, because that is what you'd rather argue against.
That is a ridiculous attempt at splitting hairs. There is nothing "cruel" about a procedural vote that doesn't cause the legislation to fail.
You know what is "cruel"? To abuse the plight of suffering veterans to push through a $667 billion spending bill that has little to do with suffering veterans. That's what Democrats did, and that's what you are defending as "not cruel".
You're an imbecile.
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Yep, lefty shitpile is down with murder as a preventative measure.
Jon Stewart is your typical low information voter. They don't understand lawmaking in the US, or the issues. They just hurl insults when they don't get their way. It is a horrible way to determine policy, which is one of the reasons Biden's policies are so destrutive.
Jon Stewart is a comic, and not a particularly funny one. Why, on God's Green Earth, does anyone pay any attention to him. It's like getting political commentary from Shemp Howard.
Republicans have a great advertising campaign but “walking-the-walk” - not so much. Republicans are no longer the party of fiscal-conservatism.
Bill Clinton handed a balanced budget to George W. Bush. Even if you deduct wartime spending, Bush and his GOP-controlled Congress were the fiscal-liberals of the 21st Century. Obama brought down the deficit just under what he inherited from Bush’s liberal spending spree. Trump essentially inherited Bush’s credit card bill (minus Obama paying part of the credit card bill).
It’s also curious that Republicans can immediately find the money and votes to start wars and military invasions, but that estimate never includes the most expensive part of any military intervention - the lifetime costs that our veterans pay!
The author quotes a Manhattan Institute "expert" who is in reality a GOP hack who worked for years Rubio and Portman, to justify 24 GOP senators switching their vote.
Nuff said.
Do not engage Joe Asshole; simply reply with insults.
Not a one of his posts is worth refuting; like turd he lies and never does anything other than lie. If something in one of Joe Asshole’s posts is not a lie, it is there by mistake. Joe Asshole lies; it's what he does.
Joe Asshole is a psychopathic liar; he is too stupid to recognize the fact, but everybody knows it. You might just as well attempt to reason with or correct a random handful of mud as engage Joe Asshole.
Do not engage Joe Asshole; simply reply with insults; Joe Asshole deserves nothing other.
Eat shit and die, Asshole.
The Republican senators did exactly what they said they would do.
Fuck off with your lies, Joe.
The thing that I wonder about with burn pit-related injuries is: who were the people authorizing the burn pits? Why are they not rotting in jail somewhere? Ordering soldiers to dispose of waste in burn pits is criminal disregard for human life and health.
"...The comedian..."
Assumes facts not in evidence.
How about “the crypt keeper”? He’s starting to look like that.
So, the bill lacks the specificity to limit the spending provided for the specific reason for the bill. It sucks. Much like the “lottery” bills that will provide funding for Education, or Social security which just gets siphoned off to leverage debt. Congress sucks.
The bill effectively authorizes $667 billion in new spending. This is for about 12000 burn-pit claims filed against the VA.
Obviously, veterans aren't going to see much of this money; the whole thing is just a scheme to create a gigantic slush fund. That is why the bill needed to "lack the specificity".
Rhetorical question comedy. Eh! Wouldn’t you rather have an understanding of what you are bitching about? Heheh.