Once These Legal Immigrants Turn 21, They Face Deportation
With action from Congress, over 200,000 dependent visa holders could see some relief.

Fedora Castelino left India when she was only four months old, eventually settling in the United States at the age of six as a dependent on her father's H-1B visa. Now almost 19, she's staring down a deadline: In just two years, she might have to deport herself.
Castelino is one of over 200,000 "Documented Dreamers," dependent visa holders who were brought to the U.S. legally as children and have resided here lawfully since. If they can't secure a work visa or sponsorship for a green card before turning 21—a process made far more difficult by extreme application backlogs and wait times—they're forced to self-deport. "It's so hard to realize that I've lived here basically my entire life—this is actually not my home," says Castelino. "Even after finishing all my schooling in America, I'm still not in a home country, which is really hard to accept."
"These are individuals who've essentially been raised and educated here," says Dip Patel, founder of Improve the Dream, which advocates for Documented Dreamers. "This is typically the only place they've known." According to a survey conducted by Patel's organization, Documented Dreamers were, on average, just five years old when they came to the United States.
The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, introduced by the Obama administration, shields undocumented "Dreamers" from deportation. Around 650,000 undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children through no fault of their own are protected. But Documented Dreamers have received comparatively little attention from politicians.
Last year, Rep. Deborah Ross (D–N.C.) and a bipartisan group of sponsors introduced the America's Children Act, which outlines certain protections for Documented Dreamers. It would provide a pathway to permanent residency, lock an applicant's age on the green card application date rather than require the securement of a visa by 21, and allow Documented Dreamers to work while their green card applications are pending. A narrower version of that legislation may also pass in the form of an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, which the House is taking up this week.
Patel explains that it's critical for lawmakers to make strides this year, since there will be a new Congress after December. "Right now I think there's a lot of momentum to get this issue resolved. For the longest time, there wasn't any attention given to this," he says. "I think there's a really good opportunity to get it done."
Immigrants like Castelino have been forced to put their dreams on hold due to the uncertainty of their status in the country. "I was denied a lot of internship opportunities," she explains, since her H-4 dependent visa doesn't grant her work authorization. That meant she couldn't take on a job to help provide her family with some extra cash. Nor did she qualify for in-state tuition while applying to college, since she was technically an out-of-state international student.
She eventually secured a scholarship to attend the University of South Carolina, where she'd hoped to join an ROTC program. "Serving in the U.S. Army was something I worked towards," Castelino says. "I soon realized that I can't even get admission in an ROTC program without permanent residency or citizenship." She's since decided to major in pre-med and hopes to secure work visa sponsorship that way. "We can't really risk taking a degree that we're super passionate about," Castelino explains, "and not have any future in it."
Unfortunately, Laurens van Beek's clock has already run out. Coming from the Netherlands, he had lived in the U.S. since he was seven as a dependent on his parents' visas. After eventually securing an international student visa to study at the University of Iowa and qualifying for postgraduate extensions, he had to leave the country last week at the age of 24. It was his first international flight since the one that brought him to the United States. He's now living in Belgium while his employer tries to secure an employment-based visa for him to return home.
"These kids are American in pretty much every way of life, except for a piece of paper that says they are," says van Beek. "For most of these people who have to go back, they're getting thrown into a culture that they don't know." He says his circumstances are very fortunate since he's stayed in touch with European family and still speaks Dutch, but calls that "the exception to the norm."
Self-deportations tear families apart. They also put America's competitiveness at risk. "A system focused on retaining the best talent means acknowledging that immigration is inherently a family affair," explains Sam Peak, an immigration analyst at Americans for Prosperity. "We've seen countless examples of engineers, physicians, and other professionals who feel like they need to choose between their children and their professional lives."
Major tech companies have been pushing the Biden administration to offer relief to Documented Dreamers. In a letter last month, officials from Amazon, Google, and Uber urged Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas to "establish more robust aging out policies" for Documented Dreamers, pointing out that the current policies make it more difficult to recruit foreign talent. "Families are already leaving the U.S. in favor of countries who have streamlined their systems to attract more talent," Peak says.
"I wouldn't be fighting so much to push this information out and push this news out if I didn't truly love living in America," says Castelino. "Then I would just easily self-deport and it wouldn't really affect me. America is where I want to live. I love this country."
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Fedora Castelino left India when she was only four months old
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So, her parents had about 20 yrs to get citizenship and failed to do so.
Sounds like her beef should be with them.
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Someone here on an H1B visa for 15 years really is an issue.
H1Bs are a clusterfuck. They have been massively misused, were basically a way for tech companies to not pay competitive wages or do training when their employees lacked a skill set from the dot com crash until after the 2008 crash.
Leaving someone on that sort of visa for more than a decade without just moving them to legal residency is exactly what Fiona wants for her benefactor, because it ties them to a job like an indentured servant.
H1Bs are supposed to be temporary. And if they have green cards and have been here that long, they long ago should have begun the process to sort her out as well.
H1Bs are a clusterfuck. They have been massively misused, were basically a way for tech companies to not pay competitive wages or do training when their employees lacked a skill set from the dot com crash until after the 2008 crash.
This cannot be understated. Many of the biggest (and even medium sized) tech firms had employees or entire departments doing H1B visas because mysteriously, out of 330,000,000 people in this country, they couldn't find a single qualified candidate in the US.
I've had my beefs with overfed, overpaid American workers, but it really does begin to make one wonder how a guy who went through a certification mill in Bengaluru is so much more qualified than 100% of the American domestic population.
I've had my beefs with overfed, overpaid American workers, but it really does begin to make one wonder how a guy who went through a certification mill in Bengaluru is so much more qualified than 100% of the American domestic population
Oh, sure, not content with one quiet question being answered out loud, now you feel entitled to beg other quiet questions out loud! Entitle American prick, we could outsource your job to India for way less than $15/hr.
Based on my experiences, it would take four or five of the $15/hr coders, plus a supervisor and a translator (both being paid by the client) to replace one native American programmer.
Unfortunately, they refuse to come off their reservations to help the white man with his coding projects.
I would say that it's not too often that you meet a libertarian that's willing to completely overlook minimum wage mandates to make a fundamentally racist argument, but this is Reason.
Uh, he probably shows up at work every day.
So, her parents had about 20 yrs to get citizenship and failed to do so.
I know, right? I mean, the wait list for green cards from India is only 90 years' long. Why couldn't they have acted sooner?
https://www.cato.org/blog/14-million-skilled-immigrants-employment-based-green-card-backlogs-2021
I can't think of an easier problem to solve. A flick of the wrist from Congress could fix... or turn this into a non-problem and it would probably enjoy bipartisan support.
Yeah, immigration is really messed up. It always turns into a discussion of "how many should we let in?" but there are huge issues with the process regardless of the related issue of numbers.
It's just government clusterfuck, just like most government.
The system is a mess because nobody dares ask, let alone answer, answer the fundamental questions: who should we let in and how many of them?
I would argue the system is a mess because of the opposite. People combine the question of "how the system should work" with "how many people should be let in."
They're different questions.
I think there are various reasons for this confusion, but one major reason is every major law is an omnibus bill now.
Absolutely. It is completely stupid. These are people who followed all the rules, filled out all the correct papers, had their petitions approved, and the only reason they don't have green cards is because of the per-country annual limit on green cards.
People in this country generally don't realize how completely broken and stupid the legal immigration system is.
And BTW, my comment wasn't meant to be snark.
If I'm walking down the street in my town, and I'm stepping over homeless drug addicts who are threatening to stab me in the eyeball, and weaving between shrieking overweight harpies with a dozen nose piercings demanding that their six figure student loans in Gender Studies be canceled and you ask me, "should we block deportations for these... brown skinned women with a tee-shirts that read "Dios, Familia, Patria" on it as long as they're in the system-- regardless of how backed up it is" you can damn well bet this bitter culture warrior is going to say "absolutely".
I believe you. If there is going to be any type of amnesty, these kids should be the ones first in line.
That's the last thing that the Democrats want. They need this issue to show how mean and evil Republicans are.
What I want to know is why this wasn't this addressed when the Democrats came up DACA?
Because the kids of legal immigrants are not the ones the Democrats want.
Because they don't plan ahead for anything that doesn't benefit them politically. Dems aren't planners, they are vicious opportunists.
Their donors don’t want it. It jacks the price of the labor. If they aren’t legal citizens, they are cheap labor.
Don’t ever expect this to be solved. The politicians use it to get votes, the donors fight it for the cheap labor.
Same thing I was thinking.
Don't break laws, don't get deported. Simple as
Castelino is one of over 200,000 "Documented Dreamers," dependent visa holders who were brought to the U.S. legally as children and have resided here lawfully since.
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Last year, Rep. Deborah Ross (D–N.C.) and a bipartisan group of sponsors introduced the America's Children Act, which outlines certain protections for Documented Dreamers. It would provide a pathway to permanent residency, lock an applicant's age on the green card application date rather than require the securement of a visa by 21, and allow Documented Dreamers to work while their green card applications are pending.
So, when I first read that Rep. Coffman (R-CO) introduced the BRIDGE Act in 2017, the number was something like 1.8M DREAMers. When Trump proposed it again in 2019 the number was something like 700K DREAMers. Now, we're talking about 200K DREAMers. Seems like this problem is either solving itself or Democrats are more bigotted than Trump or Coffman and someone is playing fast and loose with the definitions to make it seem like it isn't.
It's almost like democrats aren't really serious about solving the problem at all.
"Solving" problems is white supremacist thinking.
I do like how this article (accidentally?) admits that the disaster at the border is squarely on Obama's shoulders.
Quiet, you.
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I'm a little confused here. The minimum age to apply for citizenship is 18. As the author says, they're raised here and so understand English, basic civics and have five years residency. It seems to me that any of these people, by age 21 should be able to become U.S. citizens.
Or is this about making green cards hereditary?
The problem is that they are subject to the annual per-country limit on green cards. The wait time for an applicant from India is incredibly long, like decades and decades long. They didn't break the law, they followed all the rules. In this case it is the broken system that really is letting them down.
In this case it is the broken system that really is letting them down.
I'm pretty sure insulting their parents in this manner is racist.
How so? As I said, it seems to me like any one of them can apply for American citizenship on turning 18. And saying they're entitled to a green card because their parents had one and brought them over here seems to me like an injustice to all those Indians waiting decades and decades.
Jokes on you, if they went to public school they don't know civics, not even a little bit
I blame DeathSantis for making it illegal to teach proper pronoun usage.
No, applying for citizenship doesn't require just five years' residency, it requires five years' lawful permanent resident status.
These people are not here as dependents of green card holders, but of H1B holders. H1B status is temporary (three years extensible to six), not permanent residency, and H4 status as a dependent of an H1B-holder is also temporary, not permanent residency.
The problem is that the H1B status in these cases has been abused into a pseudo-permanent residency, where the H1B holder was not sent home after 3-to-6 years, but given a new H1B. If the H1B program was being used as intended, this issue would not occur.
Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't really clear why they couldn't just apply for citizenship. This makes sense. You'd think the article would have made this clearer. I was assuming their parents held green cards.
>>These kids are American in pretty much every way of life, except for a piece of paper
somewhat important piece of paper, and seems like a decade+ to enact proceedings is not unreasonable
I'm no expert on immigration law but the proposed legislation seems pretty reasonable to me.
Which is why it will never pass. It's much easier to fund-raise off a crisis.
After eventually securing an international student visa to study at the University of Iowa and qualifying for postgraduate extensions, he had to leave the country last week at the age of 24.
So his student visa expired?
Sounds like the system worked to me.
Sounds like the system worked to me.
Not until he's locked into a job here with a company willing to purchase his ownership paper, er, I mean sponsor his H1B.
And of course the easiest solution goes ignored by reason: abolishing birthright citizenship.
That requires a constitutional amendment. I don't see any circulating among the states.
Besides, irrelevant in this case.
It doesn't.
Birthright citizenship as currently applied is in fact unconstitutional, as explicitly stated in congressional arguments by the authors of the 14th amendment.
Birthright, like in all other contexts the term is used, refers not to location but to lineage.
It wouldn’t really apply here because these kids were already born before being brought to the US.
The Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, introduced by the Obama administration, shields undocumented "Dreamers" from deportation.
But Documented Dreamers have received comparatively little attention from politicians.
This reads like the best solution for Fedora Castelino is to burn her documents, and become undocumented.
Yes, if the H1B system is abused into giving someone de facto permanent residency instead of the temporary residence intended, then people brought in as that person's dependents might be screwed when their dependent status, and thus H4 eligibility, runs out.
The sane way to avoid this problem is to prohibit chaining H1B visas.
This is just like everything else in the Democrat playbook.
Delay, sue, sue and settle, delay some more and the claim reliance after the law isn't enforced on these individuals for decades.
How many Haitians are here because of the "emergency" caused by the earthquake 20 some years ago, as an example.
Hey, sadness is always an emergency.
Loopholes in our immigration laws allow foreigner to exploit temporary work visas into permanent work permits. The parents of these people should have gone home after 3 years. If they had dons so this problem would not exist. Now that it does exist we are the bad guys!
The only thing wrong with our immigration system is that it allows too many foreigners into the country.
"The only thing wrong with our immigration system is that it allows too many foreigners into the country.
"
The only thing wrong is that it isn't enforced.
foreigner to exploit temporary work visas
It's not the foreigners doing the exploiting here.
Why does this country hate LEGAL immigrants so much? And why are both Democrats and Republicans so eager to keep it that way?
Because 40% and perhaps more, of what they do can be automated. Anyone falling in the 40% category should not be admitted or deported if they snuck in. We gone from 12 year olds working next to adults in lose your arm and leg sweat shops for 100 hours a week for slave wages - we're down to 40 hours and should be planning for people to be paid 40 hour wages for 20 hours of work by the end of this Century which means driving our population down by 50 to 75 million people - start by deporting anyone who has no legal right to be in this Country. We should be so beyond using infantile language and slogans like 'legal' and 'illegal' immigrants.
How about a program that keeps educated young immigrants while getting rid of ignorant, economically inadequate, superstitious, bigoted, worthless, stale-thinking hayseeds from America's desolate backwaters?
I’m surprised you’re volunteering to leave the country, but I’ll celebrate a decent hard working immigrant taking your place.
Only if they carry an ignorant, economically inadequate, superstitious, bigoted, worthless, entitlement-thinking ghetto dweller under each arm.
"[this land] is being sold to the global elite"
"it's a struggle for land, language and culture."
Which anti-immigration right-wing republican-- and which right wing news source produced this documentary?
Hint: Hawaii is for Hawaiians.
Something something borders and preserving culture and local character.
"We are ready to take a picture."
"Quick, get the prettiest girls in front."
Perhaps these kids should join the military, then apply for citizenship.
From the article:
She eventually secured a scholarship to attend the University of South Carolina, where she'd hoped to join an ROTC program. "Serving in the U.S. Army was something I worked towards," Castelino says. "I soon realized that I can't even get admission in an ROTC program without permanent residency or citizenship."
https://www.usa.gov/join-military
Requirements for Enlisting If You Are Not a U.S. Citizen
You do not have to be a U.S. citizen to enlist in the military, but you may have fewer options. If you are not a U.S. citizen, you must:
Have a permanent resident card, also known as a Green Card
Currently live in the U.S.
Speak, read, and write English fluently
No green card, so no military.
Growing up, I had a lot of Indian classmates. I remember going to a citizenship party for one of them.
Maybe this is something these people's parents should have looked into?
If they were immigrants, they could stay. In fact, they aren’t immigrants. Their parents are in the US on temporary work visas; they agreed to that status and that deal. If they thought that that was a bad deal for their kids, they should have left after a couple of years.
Another "problem" from Fiona that I just don't care about at all. I'm tired of the "they're already here" argument. Life is difficult, and tough luck is a fact for most people and you just need to shut up and go.
Good. Deport them.