After Uvalde, Politicians Push Irrelevant Gun Control Proposals
The gun control policies under discussion are fundamentally ill-suited to prevent mass shootings.

The horrifying May 24 massacre at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, which killed 19 children and two adults, happened just 10 days after a gunman murdered 10 people at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York. Both crimes predictably prompted politicians to reiterate their demands for the gun control laws they already supported, even though the policies they pushed are fundamentally ill-suited to prevent mass shootings.
"In New York," former Gov. Andrew Cuomo bragged after the Buffalo attack, "we passed the best [gun control] laws in the nation." Although those laws manifestly did not deter the Buffalo shooter, Cuomo thinks the answer is more of the same.
Cuomo mentioned a federal "assault weapon" ban, and other politicians responded to the Buffalo massacre by recommending expanded background checks for gun buyers. After the Uvalde shooting, President Joe Biden repeated his longstanding support for banning "assault weapons," and Senate Democrats mulled an "accountability vote" on a bill that would expand the federal background-check requirement to cover private transactions as well as sales by federally licensed dealers.
As Democrats framed the issue, anyone who resists those measures is manifestly untroubled by the murder of grocery shoppers and schoolchildren. "When in God's name are we going to stand up to the gun lobby?" Biden asked during an emotional speech. "When in God's name are we going to do what we know needs to be done?"
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.) suggested that callous indifference was the only plausible explanation for opposition to his gun control agenda. "Republicans don't pretend that they support sensible gun safety legislation," he told reporters. "They don't pretend that they want to keep guns out of the hands of those who might use weapons to shoot concertgoers or movie watchers or worshippers or shoppers or children."
In Texas, Beto O'Rourke, the Democratic nominee for governor, heckled Gov. Greg Abbott during a press conference about the Uvalde attack. "The time to stop the next shooting is right now," O'Rourke told Abbott, "and you are doing nothing."
While the urge to do something after an appalling mass murder is understandable, that does not mean anything will do. "It's one thing to say that, regardless of the facts, you should just do something," Sen. Mike Rounds (R–S.D.) observed. "The question is whether something you would do would actually make a difference." On that score, Democrats' knee-jerk policy prescriptions seem decidedly unpromising.
As a response to the Uvalde massacre, expanding background checks was a non sequitur. The shooter, who was also killed during the attack, legally bought the Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 rifle he used from a federally licensed dealer, which means he did not have a disqualifying criminal or psychiatric record. That was also true of the man charged in the Buffalo case, and it is typically true of mass shooters. According to a 2022 National Institute of Justice (NIJ) report on mass public shootings from 1966 through 2019, 77 percent of the perpetrators purchased guns legally, while just 13 percent obtained them through illegal transactions.
Even for the small minority of mass shooters who have disqualifying records, an expanded federal background-check requirement would not pose much of an obstacle. Data from states with similar rules, which in practice require that all firearm sales be completed via licensed dealers, indicate that gun owners generally do not comply with that edict. "Universal background checks" are universal only in theory.
Bans on so-called assault weapons likewise cannot reasonably be expected to have a meaningful impact on mass shootings. Such laws define the category based on functionally unimportant characteristics.
The NIJ study found that 77 percent of mass public shooters used handguns. A quarter of the perpetrators used what the NIJ described as "assault rifles," meaning they had features targeted by the legislation that Biden favors, such as a pistol grip, a folding stock, a threaded barrel, or a barrel shroud.
A gun without those characteristics, such as the "featureless" rifles that remain legal in states that have banned "assault weapons," still fires the same ammunition at the same rate with the same muzzle velocity. The proposed federal ban explicitly exempts the Ruger Mini-14 and the Iver Johnson M1 carbine, for example, as long as they do not have prohibited features such as pistol grips or folding stocks.
According to the online manifesto that police attributed to the Buffalo shooter, the Bushmaster XM-15 rifle he used did not qualify as an "assault weapon" when he bought it, because it had been fitted with a fixed magazine. He easily reversed that modification so the gun could accept detachable magazines, and he reportedly used magazines that exceeded New York's 10-round limit. Although that change had practical implications, other workarounds, such as replacing an adjustable stock with a fixed stock or a pistol grip with a Thordsen grip or a spur grip, allow New Yorkers to legally buy and own AR-15-style rifles like the Bushmaster XM-15 that are functionally identical to prohibited models.
The rifle that the Uvalde shooter used would qualify as an "assault weapon" in New York. But even if Texas had a similar law, the killer would have had many equally lethal alternatives.
Given the arbitrary distinctions they draw, it would be surprising if "assault weapon" bans reduced the frequency or lethality of mass shootings. "When we passed the assault weapons ban [in 1994], mass shootings went down," Biden averred. "When the law expired [in 2004], mass shootings tripled." But in a 2020 review of the relevant research, the RAND Corporation deemed the evidence "inconclusive," saying "assault weapon bans have uncertain effects on mass shootings."
In a 2017 column that The New York Times republished after the Uvalde shooting, Nicholas Kristof endorsed new firearm restrictions, including expanded background checks. But he noted that "the 10-year ban on assault weapons accomplished little, partly because definitions were about cosmetic features like bayonet mounts" and "partly because even before the ban, such guns were used in only 2 percent of crimes."
Supporters of "assault weapon" laws frequently seem confused about which guns they want to ban. In a May 18 New York Times column urging Congress to "get rid of the guns," Gail Collins mentioned "assault rifles" and "the infamous semiautomatic AR-15." But she also talked about banning "semiautomatic rifles" and "semiautomatics." In a Times opinion piece published a week later, Mary B. McCord, who served as acting assistant attorney general for national security in the Obama administration, likewise conflated "assault weapons" with "semiautomatic weapons" and "semiautomatic firearms."
A ban on all "semiautomatic firearms" would be flagrantly unconstitutional, prohibiting myriad guns "in common use" for "lawful purposes," the category that the Supreme Court has said is covered by the Second Amendment. It would ban many rifles that do not qualify as "assault weapons" and nearly all of the most popular handguns, which the Court described as "the quintessential self-defense weapon."
Opponents of "assault weapon" bans warn that they are part of a broader, more consequential assault on gun rights. The rhetoric of prohibitionists like Collins and McCord suggests that concern is justified.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "After Uvalde, Irrelevant Gun Control Proposals."
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We don't need to "prevent" mass shootings, because the risks are already extremely low.
It's a travesty that the criminologists, who know this very well, refuse to come forward and tell everyone to stop worrying.
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It is entirely arbitrary where one draws the line of what is “extremely low” or acceptable.
I can understand that many people fee any school shootings at all is unacceptable. Doesn’t mean anything can be done practically to prevent them.
Preventing every school shooting is impossible, unless you want to end up with school bombings instead.
Don’t necessarily disagree, but my point is it is subjective whether to label the rates of random mass shootings as “extremely low.” It’s totally understandable that people, especially parents of school age kids, care a lot about the issue.
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Prior to the mid-80s mass killings outside of gang related issues(terrorists being poltical gangs) were quite low. It was only after modern psychotropic drugs were pushed on the public with ever increasing rates that they happened with regularity. Modern anti-depressants cause mania and homicidal ideation in between 3-6% of users depending on specific drug, and of that subset some decide to just start killing.
Has anybody accumulated the data on perpetrators of random mass shootings and the drugs they were or were not taking?
There's not data available for many, but even only leaking whether through drugs recovered by police during the investigation or family/friend reports of therapy and AD use the number is quite high.
https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Antidepressants-and-Mass-Killings-3375614.html
https://thoughtcatalog.com/jeremy-london/2019/09/37-mass-shooters-who-were-on-antidepressants/
Somewhat on-and-off topi, but something about the Uvalde government that I didn't know:
Embattled Uvalde school police chief Pete Arredondo resigns from city council, newspaper reports
Tony Plohetski, Austin American-Statesman
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2022/07/02/uvalde-school-police-chief-pete-arredondo-resigns-city-council/7796553001/
If School Police Chief Pete Arredondo was both a School Police Chief and a City Council Member, this betrays a Cronyist, Good-Ol'-Boy, incestuous mentality in the entire government structure.
Who knows what other homicidally negligent, corrupt, crooded shit took place in Uvalde leading up to the school shooting? This is a problem that goes 'way deeper than guns!
Can anybody play "Duelling Banjos" with Mariachi instruments?
Correction: Crooked, though it is also "crood."
I imagine it’s hard to find “civic minded” people to serve in public positions in a small town.
Perhaps if you keep a closer eye on the neighborhood kid that carries around a sack of dead cats.
Or lock the door
Or check if the door is unlocked
Or let the parents be parents
Or allow adults to carry
Or fire all the local cops and only use state police and border patrol
There are really alot easier things to do to prevent this from happening again.
but you aren't asking the right question...
how can we use this incident to disarm citizens?
^This.
The bolsheviks LOVE a new mass shooting. They feverishly hope for another one every day.
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In the span of roughly 48 hours, the Fed has revised their Q2 GDP estimate from 0.0%, down to -1.0%, down to -2.0%. With the lone exception of the government-mandated shutdown due to the so-called "pandemic", I've never seen a GDP estimate go down that much that quickly. So... how is everyone out there enjoying their broken, dysfunctional Joe Biden economy where almost nothing works right?
"The economy always does better under the democrats."
-Dipshit Dave Weigel, aka "Palin's Buttplug"
The bright side though is there's only 129 days left until the big ass red tsunami comes to sweep dozens of these assholes out of office.
Only 129 days left until
massive fraudelectoral fortification delivers "surprising results" in the way of little actual change.The machine has been in motion everywhere.
The Biden economy is the best ever because liberal capitalist Warren Buffett made $1.64 billion yesterday. I'm also a liberal capitalist so when Buffett gets richer it proves I'm smart too.
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Those Progressives that demand a ban on assault weapons and mass shooters have more in common than either would think. The messed-up fucks who go out to shoot people they don't know in a search for death and glory imagine themselves as a sort of Rambo action hero, so they need the proper movie prop weapon. That means they need to carry a gun that looks like the one in the movies, with a folding stock, pistol grip, and banana magazine.
Similarly, Progressives do not consider the actual function of the weapons, only how they look. Starting around 1908 the British Army had a requirement for soldiers to pass a 'mad minute' shooting test, shooting a target at 300 yards at least 15 times in one minute using a Lee-Enfield bolt action rifle with a 5 round clip. Semiautomatic weapons are easier to use, but a British soldier in a restricted area could have done almost as much damage.
“The messed-up fucks who go out to shoot people they don't know in a search for death and glory imagine themselves as a sort of Rambo action hero, so they need the proper movie prop weapon.”
Hmm, you may have inadvertently made an argument for banning any “cool looking” weapons, backing up the logic Progressives use for wanting to ban “assault” rifles.
I have no idea, though, what the actual data is on how often weapon that look like a “proper movie prop weapon” have been used in random mass shootings.
You do touch on another point, probably unintentionally: our popular entertainment is chock full of scenes of people blowing each other away with cool-looking weapons. Those movies are consumed by pretty much all demographics, including progressives. Most od the actors in those movies are vocally against guns in real life while making movies that fantasize and glamorize weapons.
That's nothing I think I would be able to hit a target 300 times in 15 min from 5 feet, granted I would need a semi auto at least
"but a British soldier in a restricted area could have done almost as much damage."
More damage. At the ranges of these shootings the soldier wouldn't have to waste time aiming.
Just for the record:
"Practice number 22, Rapid Fire, The Musketry Regulations, Part I, 1909", required the rifleman to fire 15 rounds at a "Second Class Figure" target at 300 yd (270 m). The practice was described as; "Lying. Rifle to be loaded and 4 rounds in the magazine before the target appears. Loading to be from the pouch or bandolier by 5 rounds afterwards. One minute allowed".
The record for an Army type is 38 hits in the minute. (requires 7 reloads of a fixed magazine)
And, oh by the way, a Norway civilian sport shooter also got 38 hits in a minute.
During The War to End All War, German soldiers would report machine gun fire from trench sections held by British infantry who were doing a 'mad minute' firing defense.
Lots of progressives coming out with the "but wait until the blacks have guns!"
Always projection with these folks
If progs had the power Blacks wouldn't have guns and they assume everything works how they think it should. So they assume Blacks don't have guns.
They also don't want blacks to reproduce
Margaret Sanger, is that you?
"When in God's name are we going to stand up to the gun lobby?" Biden asked during an emotional speech. "When in God's name are we going to do what we know needs to be done?"
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.) suggested that callous indifference was the only plausible explanation for opposition to his gun control agenda. "Republicans don't pretend that they support sensible gun safety legislation,"
Not that I want them to do anything, but the Democrats control the Presidency and both houses. And yet they're pretending like they're helpless here in the face of the big bad Republicans.
Well, they also have to deal with a majority of Americans that are not onboard with progressive policies. If they could only use Democracy! to overcome democracy.
damned if they arent trying to do just that
Hey Brandon!
Right after you stand up to the Teacher's Unions, the SEIU, the Chinese............................
Iran, General; don't forget Iran.
Good thing Biden already took care of Putin, right?
Big freedom protests yesterday in Ottawa despite it being temporarily illegal to shout.
https://twitter.com/RealAndyLeeShow/status/1542955894824132608
Ottawa Police fined a protester $1,130 for writing “FREE TAMARA” in chalk on the sidewalk.
https://www.rebelnews.com/ottawa_police_just_fined_a_protester_1130_dollars_for_writing_free_tamara_lich_in_chalk
Every time there's a well publicized shooting they try to take away the guns from the people who didn't do it.
^EXACTLY... Well Said +10000000
That sounds consistent (sort of) with their other programs:
Every time somebody makes a successful business, they try to take it away and give control to the people who didn't do it.
Every time somebody earns a billion dollars, they try t take it away and give it to the people that didn't do it.
Every time somebody uses freedom of speech, they try to take it away and...well, to be fair they just want to take speech away from everybody, except for temporary use during approved performance politics.
Something happened! Gov-Gods (politicians) will need to get MORE POWER...
Does anyone else find it odd that politicians always goes after "The People" every-time something happens instead of going after their own that are incompetent???
It's like they just wait for an excuse to suppress the people at large.
While pretending they themselves have no responsibilities in the events unfolding.
We must remember that most urban and suburban Americans learned everything they "know" about guns from TV, movies, and The NY Times. Thus every weapon is a fully-automatic machine gun with unlimited rounds. And every weapon embodies an evil spirit that coopts the will of any person nearby. The only "rational" response to seeing, or even hearing about, a firearm is fear and panic.
You have that right. Hollywood shows a 40mm grenade blasting a guy ten yards. (Hell there was one night I wish they were that powerful) The next scene they show the hero walking away from 20 pounds of C-4 as it detonates 20 feet behind him.
"Our children are dying and what is Congress doing?"
That's 100% the incentive for all of this. If you do nothing, it's like you don't care. So they have to do something, even if that something is pointless and wrong. We have to do something, and here's something, so let's do this.
What the small-l libertarians need is to be more ruthless, to be honest. Progressives tend to win these conversations because, no matter how much gun control there is, they always have one more proposal ready to go the next time tragedy strikes. So they can just say, "See, if you had done X, this wouldn't have happened!" or "How many more times do we need to see this before we do X?"
What we need is a stock answer we can plug in every time there's a tragedy and blame it repeatedly each time in order to advance policy goals.
Never waste a good crisis.
And if people don't recognize something as a crisis, amp up the hysterical politi-speak and media reporting.
And kill a bunch of people by putting them on ventilators to juice the death count.
Official Arizona Democrat account promotes ‘Fuck the Fourth’ event.
https://twitter.com/tylerbowyer/status/1542981835214401537
Who should respect a holiday that celebrates Columbus landing in 1619 with a boat load of African slaves that he used to kill all the indians and then personally impregnated all the women, while evil American plantation corporations sold the A-bomb to Hitler who dropped it on Pearl Harbor. Plus Trump's birthday.
If GOP was smart, not likely, they'd run a commercial with just this and tie it to any Dem candidate in Pima county.
Democrats aren't even pretending that they do NOT hate our country. Listen, every country has it's sin and makes mistakes. Any country run by men will be flawed. But most Americans except this reality and still believe our country, NOT THE GOVERNMENT, is a decent country.
Dems - please keep showing your hand.
Not to be outdone by Arizona, the Colorado DSA host a flag burning to grieve.
https://twitter.com/GeorgiaLogCabin/status/1543335200574345216
The Democratic Party mayor of Orlando had the city issue a statement Saturday after sending out a promotion for the city’s fireworks display which claimed that people “probably” don’t want to celebrate because America is full of “hate,” and adding “we can’t blame them.”
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/city-of-orlando-regrets-impact-of-fireworks-promo-saying-people-probably-dont-want-to-celebrate-usa-and-cant-blame-them/
Progressive mother is found guilty over death of 18-month-old son who weighed just 17lb when he died after being fed vegan diet.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10973883/Vegan-mother-39-guilty-murdering-18-month-old-son-weighed-just-17lb.html
sounds like compounded with neglect based on the poor hygiene of the other kids in the house.
Based on what it said the kid was getting (Bananas, mangoes, avocados, breast milk) the baby could have done well with just some protein supplementation. One of our kids loved bananas and avocados and chubbed up pretty good going to town on them when she would for a while not want anything to do with the proteins we would give her (though she eventually came around to steak). So I suspect the kid might have been picky and the parents insisted on sticking with only vegan stuff despite the childs refusal. And no protein supplementation.
But ya, it sounds like they wanted to stick to their weird food ideology over their kids health. Very sad.
You don't starve to death on picky. You need protein for muscle and organ development.
South Africans left in the dark after grid collapse
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/07/02/south-africans-left-in-the-dark-after-grid-collapse-n480287
"This didn’t need to happen. South Africa has always relied primarily on coal-fired power plants because the country sits on rich deposits of coal. But their leaders have followed the same trends we’re seeing in other developed nations around the world, growing “squeamish” about using coal and looking to set up more solar and wind energy farms. Maintenance of some of the coal plants has been neglected because they anticipated the eventual closure of those facilities. Some of them have gone offline."
For the greens and Davos crowd this isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.
We saw the exact same thing happen in Sri Lanka with fertilizer bans (that they're trying to reproduce in the Netherlands). They start banning important parts of the infrastructure and pretend to be shocked when the whole system collapses.
Instability is the real goal.
Hey, a pastoral feudal system can be very stable. A tiny, privileged elite can watch over billions of unarmed peasants, who will consistently die around age 45--assuming they survive the 80% early childhood death rate.
https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/1543243359312945152?t=FLR3GZ1p3NN-XfP8NbBrEg&s=19
This weekend, you will be told July 4th celebrates the establishment of national government.
In reality, it commemorates secession, and promotes the idea that free people can alter, abolish, or withdraw from political arrangements at will.
1776 was the first #NationalDivorce
I guess Nard didn't get the memo on the Constitution. Explains a lot.
What are you even pretending to imply?
It needs the 50 cents to pay its rent share before the late fee for June kicks in.
The Constitution wasn't signed in 1776, or on July 4. July 4 is Independence Day.
There IS a Constitution Day, if you want to celebrate that. It's in September.
Since the Constitution - and a government organized under it - was implied by the Declaration, the 4th is not a celebration of anarchy to follow, and indeed, it notes one of the functions of the militia trained by Congress was to put down insurrections, secession was not anticipated as a right. That theory was tried later in our history and violently suppressed. The good guys - us - won.
The good guys - us - won.
I didn’t know you were a Civil War veteran.
It must take a lot of effort to be this stupid.
Joe Asshole lies; it's what Joe Asshole does.
Joe Asshole claimed to be a builder, and then claimed to have 'diagnosed' gunshot wounds daily and now claims (regardless of his statement last week) that he's doesn't 'diagnose' gunshot wounds, he was quoting an ER doc.
Joe Asshole is a pathological liar, too stupid to remember the lies he told just minutes ago.
Fuck off and die, Asshole.
"The good guys - us - won."
The Nazis weren't good and you lost.
Joe Asshole is full of shit; that's all you need to know about Joe Asshole.
https://twitter.com/austinat/status/1542957855984066560?t=WXAgviuRdsFuNcf1JUAOtQ&s=19
"The original deal with Pfizer (...) paid the pharma giant $19.50 a dose. The new pact gives Pfizer $30.48 per dose, resulting in an astronomical 56% hike from the deal negotiated by the last administration."
It's the "Putin Price Hike", @JordanSchachtel!
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The most profitable pharmaceutical product in world history becomes even more profitable? Soon they'll be mandating it for farm animals and pets.
This is what happens when you let politicians own stock in the company they're negotiating with.
"Have you had your booster today?"
Both crimes predictably prompted politicians to reiterate their demands for
the gun control laws they already supported, even though the policies they pushed are fundamentally ill-suited to prevent mass shootingsforgoing introspection and opting instead to blame others for our collapsed American culture.Just once I would like to see Members of Congress, on both sides of the political aisle, to strike their chests, say aloud 3 times, me culpa, and lead all Americans to engage in a fearless, moral inventory, make their families their number one priority, and for bonus points, shut down Congress for 9 months, so that they too can focus on their own failures as parents and human beings.
No laws will ever take the place of the individual practicing self-regulation and raising children to live likewise.
mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
The Family and Society
"2207 The family is the original cell of social life. It is the natural society in which husband and wife are called to give themselves in love and in the gift of life. Authority, stability, and a life of relationships within the family constitute the foundations for freedom, security, and fraternity within society. the family is the community in which, from childhood, one can learn moral values, begin to honor God, and make good use of freedom. Family life is an initiation into life in society."
https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P7T.HTM
So go have one, Francis and quit ruining my life!
Dude, I live a relatively blameless life with the same woman - and mother of our 2 successful and responsible "kids" - for many decades and i didn't even vote for Gov Abbot in Texas or any of the GOP members who control the state. I don't think I bear any responsibility for the school shooting there recently, but maybe you do, I don't know. Usually the problem is with individuals who are not self regulating and society has to deal with them - one was just recently our un-elected president - through laws. I don;t get your point beyond the usual mealy mouthed "thoughts and prayers" offered up by the impotent political leaders owned by the NRA or otherwise unwilling to take responsibility for their charge to protect and defend.
Take some time off and think about that.
You have no wife, no family, no honor and instead spend your every woken moment trolling these and other forums with your jihad against anyone and everyone shoving down peoples throats your irreligious, Leftist ideologies that do nothing to build but everything to destroy institutions. You shot your credibility on this forum way before I joined.
Sing along with Cat Steves:
It's not time to make a change
Just relax, take it easy
You're still young, that's your fault
There's so much you have to know
Find a girl, settle down
If you want you can marry
Look at me, I am old, but I'm happy
I was once like you are now
And I know that it's not easy
To be calm when you've found
Something going on
But take your time, think a lot
Think of everything you've got
For you will still be here tomorrow
But your dreams may not
- Cat Stevens
You can imagine any bullshit you want about me Yatu - I am in fact irreligious and wear that one with pride - but your imagination is not where arguments are won.
Speaking of Jihads, why don't you quote Cat Stevens on Salmon Rushdie's fatwa since he is apparently your spiritual leader?
More bullshit from Joe Asshole.
That's The Artist Formerly Known As Cat, Yat.
Say, do you have a family, Yat. (I presume it's not as Big Papa prescribes.)
"Dude, I live a relatively blameless life with the same woman - and mother of our 2 successful and responsible "kids"
Ha, ha. I bet big money that you don't.
Joe Asshole at one time claimed to be a "builder"; a week or so ago, he claimed to 'diagnose' gunshot wounds daily.
Joe Asshole is full of shit.
I am a builder soldier and I quote ER docs who see gun shot wounds regularly. You get that's not the same thing, right?
Fuck off and die, lying pile of shit Joe Asshole.
No you're not. You're some pudgy blue-haired keyboard warrior sitting in his parents basement, and posting off a talking points pdf you're issued each morning.
Also an architect.
And you'd lose Mother, but we both want to keep our anonymity.
It's both curious and incriminating that you must imagine terrible things about those you disagree with. Adults and sane people know better than that. I imagine nothing about your private life - hasn't occurred to me - and it has no bearing on the idiocy of most of your posts here.
In the last four months you've advocated for child castration, racist instruction, segregation, late-term abortion and infanticide, censorship, government authoritarianism and class divisions.
No fucking shit that I think you're a demented, evil monster.
or a paid troll for Act Blue. Seems to carry those talking points near and dear to his lifeless heart
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1543247356761604100?t=aKJrzey9WAN16_XXs1Sczg&s=19
BREAKING: US National Archives Website Places 'Harmful Language Alert' on US Constitution
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Zero surprises there. It's been nothing but harmful to their agenda.
Yup. From the NARA mission statement:
- researching the problem, listening to users, experimenting with solutions, and sharing our findings with each other;
- evaluating existing processes for exclusionary practices or institutional bias that prioritize one culture and/or group over another;
- making an institutional commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility.
This is complete bullshit.
Here is the Constitution, from the National Archives:
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution
Hey look, no "harmful language alert".
Now here is the National Archives Catalog:
https://catalog.archives.gov/
Oh look, THERE's the "harmful language alert".
That "harmful language alert" applies to the WHOLE CATALOG, not specifically to the Constitution.
People like Posobiec do this all the time - lie to you. Why do you let them get away with it? Why do you propagate their lies on their behalf?
That "harmful language alert" applies to the WHOLE CATALOG, not specifically to the Constitution.
That makes it even worse.
Good self own.
"That "harmful language alert" applies to the WHOLE CATALOG, not specifically to the Constitution."
Cripes! I don't know how Jeffy figures that's better and not worse.
"That "harmful language alert" applies to the WHOLE CATALOG, not specifically to the Constitution."
Ok, so the US constitution is part of that catalog. Learn how sets work.
What could possibly be harmful language? In anything?
Only snowflakes would need a trigger warning.
"Supporters of "assault weapon" laws frequently seem confused about which guns they want to ban. In a May 18 New York Times column urging Congress to "get rid of the guns," Gail Collins mentioned "assault rifles" and "the infamous semiautomatic AR-15." But she also talked about banning "semiautomatic rifles" and "semiautomatics." In a Times opinion piece published a week later, Mary B. McCord, who served as acting assistant attorney general for national security in the Obama administration, likewise conflated "assault weapons" with "semiautomatic weapons" and "semiautomatic firearms."
Yeah, because Gail Collins isn't a queer for guns and pretends she's Jack Reacher at the range, she needs to get her definitions in order.
It's not hard: semi-automatic, large magazine capacity capable, and high-velocity rounds capable. 3 characteristics which quantify why and how some guns are really good at exploding the tissue and organs of multiple school children in short time so they can't be put back together again, and which should be illegal for anyone to buy until 21 and ultimately illegal for anyone to own.
3 characteristics which quantify why and how some
gunsAct Blue paid trolls are really good at exploding the tissue and organs of internet readers.Dude, I could be getting checks as we speak from George Soros right now, but that doesn't explain your inability to counter anything I said, which is completely factual. If that was the excuse i had to come up with - "that Yatu guy must be getting checks from Hillsdale College" - I'd hang my head in shame.
I'd hang my head...
Paging Ralph Northam. We have a still born baby here to decapitate, showing no viable signs
Paging Donald trump. We have another stupid fuck here unable to hold up a conversation and dollars to donuts he'll believe anything you tell him.
Yatusabes isn't the one railing about hunting rifles here.
Yeah, if you don't care what the game looks like and you can get right up on them.
No you fucking idiot.
Your standard fucking deer gun (30-06, .308, .300, .30-30, .223) is "large magazine capacity capable, and high-velocity rounds capable".
He's been told this. He doesn't care. He still calls the 5.56 mm NATO high velocity and extremely lethal. Maybe compared to a .22 LR, but wait until he sees what a .22-250 can do with the same weight bullet and same caliber. Or the .204 Ruger, or the .22-250 Ackley. All beat the 5.56 mm NATO by a considerable margin on velocity.
Not to mention new deer cartridges like the 6.5 creedmore and the 6.5 western.
Eh my bad, fucking lack of an edit button, 6.8 mm western.
"your inability to counter anything I said, which is completely factual.
What the hell are you on about. You made it very evident that you don't even know anything about guns.
"semi-automatic, large magazine capacity capable, and high-velocity rounds capable. 3 characteristics which quantify why and how some guns are really good at exploding the tissue and organs of multiple school children in short time"
The last two are every single fucking hunting rifle ever. You're not going to take down a deer or a hog with a .22. And the first is no quicker or more "dangerous" than a pump or bolt action. It just sounds "bad" to you clowns because it has "automatic" in the name.
Media Matters really needs to stop sticking pig ignorant clowns like you to argue here.
In Joe's utopia, approved people can own nerf guns.
The rounds fired by an AR-15 are slightly larger than a .22 but gain their destructive force because of the speed with which they travel. Kinetic energy = mass/2 x velocity squared. Do the math. This also means low recoil allowing the shooter to exercise better control shooting school kids.
Eat shit and die, Joe Asshole.
You're dodging the point shithead. You were clearly describing ordinary hunting rifles as your top bannables.
If you knew anything about firearms you wouldn't have fucked up like you just did.
Here, talk to retired Major General Paul Eaton who trained Iraqi forces for us.
"As the former Commanding General of the Infantry Center at Fort Benning and Chief of Infantry, I know a bit about weapons. Let me state unequivocally — For all intents and purposes, the AR-15 and rifles like it are weapons of war.
Those opposed to assault weapon bans continue to play games with AR-15 semantics, pretending there’s some meaningful differences between it and the M4 carbine that the military carries. There really aren’t.
The military began a transition from the M16 to the M4, an improved M16, some years ago. The AR-15 is essentially the civilian version of the M16. The M4 is really close to the M16, and the AR-15.
So what’s the difference between the military’s M4 and the original AR-15? Barrel length and the ability to shoot three round bursts. M4s can shoot in three round bursts. AR-15s can only shoot single shot.
But even now, you can buy AR-15s in variable barrel lengths with Weaver or Picatinny rails for better sights and aiming assists like lasers. Like the military, but w/o the bayonet.
But our troops usually use single shot, not burst fire. You’re able to fire a much more accurate (deadly) shot, that way. Note: you can buy our Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight on Amazon. So troops usually select the same fire option available on AR-15.
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That is why the AR-15 is ACCURATELY CALLED a ‘weapon of war.’ It is a very deadly weapon with the same basic functionality that our troops use to kill the enemy. Don’t take the bait when anti-gun-safety folks argue about it. They know it’s true. Now you do too."
https://twitter.com/PaulDEaton52/status/1532492803271544833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1532492803271544833%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ledger-enquirer.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics-government%2Farticle262125247.html
Then why is the Army switching to the M-5? Also, the M-4 is not three round burst, it's select fire, fully automatic. And it's not an improved M-16, it's a carbine version that functions exactly the same. The M-16A1, M-16A2, M-16A3 and M-16A4 are all improved versions of the M-16. The reason the military adopted the M-4 was mainly due to urban warfare, where carbines are more useful than full length rifles. Your general is talking shit. His statement isn't even factual. The current issued M-4 is the M-4A1 which is fully automatic and has replaced all M-4s which were only capable of 3 round burst, and they are just shortened M-16A2. No improvement, no change. As for firing, yes we were taught to fire in semi-automatic most of the time, but we did also use fully automatic, especially at close range and extremely long range, and for suppressive fire. As for weapons of war, again what makes it a weapon of war? Oh it fires the 5.56 mm NATO round? So do multiple bolt action and single shot rifles. It's semi-automatic, so are multiple deer rifles, shotguns etc. Paul Eaton is also a well known progressive advocate and had been criticized for putting politics in front of facts, which he does in your tweet. Which he gets multiple things wrong in.
None of that has anything to do with being "semi-automatic, large magazine capacity capable, and high-velocity rounds capable" which covers almost every hunting rifle above varmint caliber.
If you understood the words you were posting you wouldn't be constantly beclowning yourself like this.
What is even funnier is we've all pointed out how he is wrong. I've tried to have a legitimate conversation with him in the past, and corrected him with citations. And the next day he is back saying the same shit he was corrected on the day before. Either he is incapable of learning or simply chooses to ignore any and all data that disputes his talking points, either way, it doesn't show a person with high intellectual ability. I also love how he quotes from the constitution but then gets wrong what he quoted, trying to state it defines what the militia is, when it doesn't. It simply authorizes states to create a militia and for the federal government to call them up and equip them, when needed.
"And the next day he is back saying the same shit he was corrected on the day before."
That's how you know that you're dealing with a paid shill. They have to post the same assigned talking points over and over again, regardless of how often they're completely discredited.
You see the same thing with Jeff and Shrike. This contrasts with guys like Brandybuck and sarcasmic who obviously aren't fifty-centing and just watch too much CNN.
I also love how he states the various militia acts are mythical, and no one has been called up under them, when they created the National Guard and Reserves, as well as created the draft, as the whole basis of selective service back to the first draft during the Civil War is the fact that all males between 18-45 are part of the militia and all the draft is doing is calling up the militia in accordance with the very clause of the Constitution that he quotes.
The rounds fired by an AR-15 are slightly larger than a .22 but gain their destructive force because of the speed with which they travel. Kinetic energy = mass/2 x velocity squared. Do the math. This also means low recoil allowing the shooter to exercise better control shooting school kids.
https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2019/11/01/victim-of-violent-home-invasion-speaks--credits-wife-with-saving-his-life
Victim of Violent Home Invasion Speaks; Credits Wife With Saving His Life With AR-15
"Them guys came in with two normal pistols and my AR stopped it,” King said. “(My wife) evened the playing field and kept them from killing me."
Technically they aren't bigger than a .22 either, all .22 rounds have the same bullet diameter, which when measured in metric is 5.56 mm, this holds the same for .22 short, .22 LR, .22 magnum, .22-250, .220 swift, .222, .223 Remington, 5.56 mm NATO, etc. The difference is the bullet weight, which is still extremely small compared to most hunting cartridges, topping out around 75 grains, when most deer cartridges are around 130 grains, giver or take. Deer cartridges also have the same velocity or greater than the 5.56 mm NATO, and many are chambered in semi-automatic rifles, as well as bolt, pump and lever action rifles, all of which can be cycled as fast as the AR-15. Additionally, most 5.56 mm rounds are FMJ, which produces smaller wound channels, whereas most hunting rounds are designed for maximum expansion, creating larger wound channels and doing far more damage to internal organs. Someone armed with a Browning BAR .30-06 semi-automatic deer rifle would do far more damage then someone with an AR-15. I will put the link in for the Browning website because Joe is so stupid he will think I am referring to the WW2 light machine gun.
https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/bar.html
Note it has an external magazine, which means it can be fitted with any sized magazine, many bolt action rifles also are now fitted for external magazines, as they are safer to unload than a fixed magazine. My wife's Tika rifle in .30-06 has an external magazine. My father's Browning bolt .300 win mag has an external magazine. Etc. And just so idiot Joe Fuckface's information, the .30-06 was designed specifically for warfare and is far more lethal than the 5.56 mm NATO. Which he has been told is such an underperforming round that the Army is in the process of retiring it in favor of the 6.8 x 51 mm round.
No doubt we are all impressed by the useless bullshit you've crammed into your brain about your unhealthy obsession with guns. I know I am. I have hobbies too, but they don't involve pretending I'm Jack Reacher or GI Joe - did as a kid, mind you, but grew out of it.
Have you considered quilting or stamps?
You can't counter anything, so rather than admit you're fucking wrong you try to insult those who fucking correct you on your bullshit. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, so when you are corrected, instead of admitting it, you fucking try and imply that the person with actual knowledge is some sort of freak. You are shallow and lack the knowledge necessary to fucking argue this. When presented with evidence that runs contrary to your viewpoint you ridicule that knowledge. Which demonstrate someone who is of mediocre intelligence. Maybe shut up and learn rather than making a complete tool of yourself. Knowledge is powerful, but you seem incapable of incorporating new knowledge and applying it. If you are a builder, given this incapacity to absorb and apply new knowledge, I wouldn't even hire you to build a chicken coop.
No dude, that's crazy person obsession. So are the 100 word minimum posts.
Between building million dollar plus houses, I don't have much time for chicken coops, but hey, email me the architect's PDF and I'll try to fit you in. Will you live in the chicken coop or are the chickens just friends?
You don't build fuck all, Joe. It's obvious that you know even less about construction than rifles.
Unless masturbating to anime is a profession, I'm guessing all your job skills relate to internet posting.
Joe tries to be cute and fails as badly as when he tries to lecture us on guns.
No doubt we are all impressed by the useless bullshit you've crammed into your brain about your unhealthy obsession with guns. I know I am.
That's a pissy little footstomping way of admitting you know fuck all about the subject you've been pontificating on.
Good for them. Now how many are used in assaults and murders - we have 19 in Texas last month to start.
Less than are killed by hammers every year according to DOJ reports. Idiot.
As a builder I can confirm that hammers have utility beyond killing people. You don't know what you are talking about again,
So do fucking AR-15. I shoot coyotes and gophers and fucking Badgers with them all the fucking time. That's about all the 5.56 mm NATO is good for, shooting varmints. For self defense I prefer a larger round that will actually stop an assailant. You haven't yet disproven anything I've ever stated. I give you actual links that prove I know what I'm talking about you insist I'm the one who doesn't understand this. Except I back my statements with citations and facts. You are the one who has been shown to be wrong on this multiple times. Yet, you never learn. You keep saying the same wrong shit over and over and over, no matter how often you get it wrong. The AR-15 is an excellent varmint rifle. It's a piss poor weapon for anything much bigger than a coyote. Why do you think the Army is retiring it moron? Going to a much larger, heavier round? Because it's small and not all that lethal, especially at ranges over 100 meters. It's a glorified .22 BTW you are also wrong above when you state the 5.56 is larger than a .22. It is a fucking .22 caliber round. You don't fucking even know the difference between caliber and bullet weight moron.
Joe Asshole is claiming to be a builder again. Next, he'll be a nucular chemist or some such.
Joe Asshole is certainly dishonest, but he's brain-damaged, too.
Does pretty good on school kids, people in WalMart, etc, here try this buster. By the way, you can kill varmints with a shotgun. Even I can do that.
https://twitter.com/PaulDEaton52/status/1532492803271544833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1532492803271544833%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ledger-enquirer.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics-government%2Farticle262125247.html
You can kill varmints with a .416 rigby (a fucking elephant cartridge) too. So fucking what? As for killing kids and people at Walmart, you can do that with a fucking shotgun too, probably far more effectively, idiot.
"As for killing kids and people at Walmart, you can do that with a fucking shotgun too, probably far more effectively, idiot."
I'm not convinced Joe knows what a shotgun is.
As an aside, my father has shot gophers a couple times with a .375 H&H magnum. Can't prove if he hit them or not, because there wasn't much left of them afterwards.
What you said doesn't need to be countered. Shall not be infringed. It doesn't matter if I don't need a 100-round drum on my AR-15, I've got a constitutional right to not only own it, but to bear it.
Why would I need a 100-round drum? No good reason. It would be a waste of money to empty that many rounds at the range in one day, and the weight of it would ruin a lot of what makes the AR-15 a good rifle platform. But if I fucking want it, I should be allowed to have it. I'm not going to use it to harm anyone else and nobody should assume its mere existence is harmful.
Your right to own weapons is not unlimited and even our jerk off SC majority left in place an age limitation on the NY law it just overturned.
At some point we are all going to have to admit that the militia of the constitution - it is defined elsewhere in that document - does not exist and hasn't for vary long time and you and I, our fathers, grandfathers and possibly great grandfathers never belonged to it. If we did, we'd be subject to:
Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
Clause 16
Clause 16. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.
At some point we are all going to have to admit that the militia of the constitution - it is defined elsewhere in that document - does not exist
10 USC, CHAPTER 12, SECTION 246
ANTIFA BLM are the threat we all must defend against. While Youtube has tried to scrub the video recordings of their anarchist violence that took innocent lives, we know the DNC relies on them to take innocent lives.
https://thenewamericanist.com/the-top-10-reasons-why-you-should-own-an-ar-15/
The Top 10 Reasons Why You Should Own An AR-15
You are out of your mind paranoid. Seek help.
The paranoid one is you who is scared of a black rifle that is fairly weak compared to almost any other rifle on the fucking market.
And killed 19 kids last month in "one good guy with a gun" Texas.
How is that working out down there?
Considering no good guys with guns where there because it's against the law, your point is fucking moot. If anyone had had a gun, it's likely he wouldn't have killed 19 kids. And when the cops actually showed up, they fucking left him alone for an hour. Fuck, with an hour with no one trying to stop him, he could have used a fucking hammer and killed 19 kids. You haven't yet made a salient point.
Joe doesn't understand the difference between the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And even then he gets wrong what the militia is and was. The Constitution doesn't actually state what the militia is, all it does it authorizes the States to create a militia and the federal government to activate it and arm it when needed.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C16-1/ALDE_00001078/
And sevo apparently can't explain it for us. Not sure if claiming that the basis for a right you all seem to think is unlimited is never defined is worse than avoiding the fact that nothing like what it does define as it's duty and responsibilities is completely archaic. He's not in a militia trained under the authority of the Congress and subject to it's call and neither were his father, grandfather, etc. Mine the same.
Didn't read the fucking link, as it explains that Joe is full of shit. And he thinks I'm Sevo. Really. Sevo tells him to eat shit and die, I explain why Joe is a fucking idiot.
Joe Asshole is so stupid he does not realize that muting a commenter mutes all their socks besides!
A pathological liar and retarded besides! What a way to go through life!
Earlier today he tried correcting me on concealed carry on the frontier and part of his reasoning on why concealed carry didn't actually exist is because not everyone had shoulder holsters or derringers. Guess he never heard of a belly gun or a pocket pistol. And he obviously thinks the only way to carry concealed is in a holster, preferably a shoulder holster.
That's not the constitution and the unorganized militia is not under Congressional authority, and it hasn't been used since the revolution when Washington trashed it.
" “I am wearied to death all day with a variety of perplexing circumstances, disturbed at the conduct of the militia, whose behavior and want of discipline has done great injury to the other troops, who never had officers, except in a few instances, worth the bread they eat.” Washington added, “In confidence I tell you that I never was in such an unhappy, divided state since I was born.”"
Read the link I provided you idiot. It is still in the law, multiple laws, passed since the Constitution was written. You don't know Jack shit about what you're talking about.
Sevo, I know exactly what you wrote and the irrelevant laws under which you and no one on this board has ever been called up and never will be.
What an idiot. You didn't read the link and you refer to current federal law as irrelevant, except that is the whole basis of selective service moron. Keep showing you stupidity. Especially when you call me Sevo. I've been posting on here since 2001 fuckface. And no one except you is stupid enough to think I'm Sevo. We have two very distinctly different writing styles. For one, I actually take the time to show why you're a fucking idiot. Whereas Sevo just ridicules you for being a fucking idiot.
Militia acts of 1795, 1863 and 1916 for reference you dumb fuck, like we've told you multiple times. And the Constitution doesn't define militia. Also, like I've told you before, read the fucking federalist papers, which explains the Constitution, written by the actual authors, including Alexander Hamilton, in which it specifically states that the militia is everyone.
Having lived, and still living, the effects of BLM ANTIFA violence, the AR-15 was the logical response. case closed
Sevo can't dispute the fact that neither he or anyone in his family for generations, or his neighbors family, or mine, have ever been called up to this mythical militia on which he claims absolute freedom to own whatever weapons he wants. Given his anger management problems and fixation on guns ,aybe he should be red tagged, or whatever they call it.
PS The federalist papers are what got left out of the constitution.
Joe Asshole lies; it's what Joe Asshole does.
Eat shit and die, Joe Asshole.
My Grandpa and his brother were both drafted, so yes my family was called up, because the selective service is completely based on the Militia act of 1916. I was called up as well, as the Army reserve was also created under the militia act of 1916. My cousin was called up, as the National Guard was also created under the militia act of 1916. Fuck Joe is stupid. Everything he writes is wrong, again.
Tells us about when you were called up or asked to come in for training.
You talk exactly like Sevo with the coprophiliac insults laden posts. You're Sevo.
Oh, gee! Maybe Joe Asshole is not going to claim to be a cunning linguist, along with being a builder and a doctor who diagnoses bullet wounds daily!
Fuck off and die, Joe Asshole.
January 25th, 2003 fuckface.
That wasn't the militia and you didn't need a rifle to be drafted.
PS I am in favor of your right to own guns - I own a shotgun - but it is not unlimited.
More bullshit from Joe Asshole.
I guarantee Joe doesn't own a shotgun.
Yeah, you're right. I shot that possum and stray dog a long time ago with a sling shot. My bad. I live in the country ass wipe. We all own guns.
PS And yeah, I'm sure BLM and Antifa marauders have been out here too.
You're a fucking city boy who knows shit about guns. It's fucking obvious because you make so many fucking stupid mistakes about guns, lethality, function etc. You probably piss yourself if you actually shot a gun. Anyone who continues to try and state the 5.56 mm NATO is a high velocity round that's especially lethal doesn't know shit about firearms.
Dude, I ran a cow-calf operation for 15 years in the rural south and have not lived in a town, suburb, or city since 1970.
https://twitter.com/PaulDEaton52/status/1532492803271544833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1532492803271544833%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ledger-enquirer.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics-government%2Farticle262125247.html
Joe Asshole is a builder, a doctor who diagnoses bullet wounds daily and a cow puncher!
Isn't the lying pile of lefty shit Joe Asshole a wonder!
You don't know the difference between a Hereford and a Holstein. The closest you've ever gotten to a cow calf operation is the fucking drive through at McDonalds.
As for Paul Eaton, I already dispelled everything he wrote above. He's a well known political hack who uses his military background to push partisan talking points but factually inaccurate talking points. First, the M-4A1 is fully automatic not three round burst. Second the M-4 is not an improved M-16 it is a carbine version. Third, we are trained to use burst and automatic fire in certain situations and semi-automatic in others. Fourth, the 5.56 is not especially deadly. In fact the Army is retiring the round because it lacks lethality. Fifth, the AR-15 shares the same action as the M-16 but so do thousands of far more lethal deer rifles, shotguns etc but he doesn't classify them as weapons of war. If that is the basis for his definition of weapon of war, almost every fucking bolt rifle in the world is also, as almost all of them are copies of the Mauser rotating bolt, purposely designed for military use. In fact, the only reason bolt action rifles now dominate sporting rifles, is because after WW1 there was a surplus of bolt action military rifles that you could buy very cheap, before WW1 semi-automatic rifles were far more common for deer hunters than bolt rifles, which were considered military rifles or European rifles. Most sportsman carried fucking semi-automatic or lever action rifles.
And please argue with me about cattle production. Pretty please. As I've stated multiple times on here for several years, even gave citations for my peer reviewed published work on the subject, I have a MS in Animal Science, worked for six years as an agricultural extension agent in Montana, and own and operate a cow calf operation. So please please argue with me about beef cattle production.
Also, please, pretty please continue to argue about the military with me. I'm fifth generation Army, and my son is in basic right now at Ft. Benning. Also I have multiple aunts, uncles and cousins who have served or is currently serving right now, several of which made a career of the military.
We had some Hereford mixes but our bull was Angus because they have smaller heads and create fewer birthing problems. Holsteins are a dairy breed, so of course we wouldn't have any, something you apparently don't know or you wouldn't bring them up talking about a cow calf operation. We had Charlais mixes in our herd, no Brahmas or Brangus. Ask me a question about it ass wipe and I'll try to help you. Did you ever castrate bull calves in a pen? I did every year and god damn, occasionally one got a little too old before we did and it was fuck all rugged.
Sure anonymous Sevo knows more than Major General Paul Eaton who trained Iraqi troops for us and by the way Sevo doesn't have a political bias at all.
We're talking about the militia you stupid fuck, not the military, and by omission it is clear that no one in your family has ever been called up for it. Your experience is irrelevant to the militia which does not exist, much as you try to pretend otherwise and cannot bring yourself to admit the truth on.
Yes or no, did you or anyone in your family ever get called up for the militia?
Do not engage Joe Asshole; simply reply with insults.
Not a one of his posts is worth refuting; like turd he lies and never does anything other than lie. If something in one of Joe Asshole’s posts is not a lie, it is there by mistake. Joe Asshole lies; it's what he does.
Joe Asshole is a psychopathic liar; he is too stupid to recognize the fact, but everybody knows it. You might just as well attempt to reason with or correct a random handful of mud as engage Joe Asshole.
Do not engage Joe Asshole; simply reply with insults; Joe Asshole deserves nothing other.
Eat shit and die, Asshole.
But I need that weapon for self defense in case someone invades my home.
Sorry, man.
And in fact, we all need those weapons so that the government doesn't get too big for its britches.
Then you'd be part of an insurrection the militia is supposed to suppress.
Define the militia.
insurrection the militia is supposed to suppress.
The constitutional militias were literally for insurrection against the British.
No you twit, the article says to suppress insurrections. not fuel them.
"Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions."
Joe Asshole slinging more bullshit.
He was a "builder", then someone who "diagnosed bullet wounds daily"; wonder what the lying pile of left shit will claim to be next.
Which doesn't define the militia, read the fucking federalist papers moron, clause 29. It explains this idiot. The part your are quoting allows Congress to call up and arm the militia during time of emergency, it doesn't define what the fucking militia is. Fuck, none of what you quoted defines the militia. But the same people who wrote the part you're quoting (ratified in 1787) also wrote the fucking militia act of 1795, which does fucking define what the militia is, which surprise is every able bodied male 18-45. Like you've been fucking corrected on every time you open your yap about this and your only response is a limp wristed statement is that the militia acts don't mean anything. Except they do, because it's how the National Guard and Reserves and fucking selective service is operated. On top of the fact that the authors of the Constitution also plainly stated that the militia was everyone in their writings on the subject during ratification. And, that the 2A was ratified two years after the constitution, and plainly separated the militia clause, which was an examplary clause, from the definitive clause, which states the rights of the people, and in every other instance in the bill of rights the people referred to every citizen. The militia clause was not the defining clause of the 2A, by the very words of the person who wrote it.
We all recognize that you are doing your best to make it clear that Joe Asshole is a dishonest and stupid piece of shit, but there comes a time when Asshole needs to be treated as such:
Do not engage Joe Asshole; simply reply with insults.
Not a one of his posts is worth refuting; like turd he lies and never does anything other than lie. If something in one of Joe Asshole’s posts is not a lie, it is there by mistake. Joe Asshole lies; it's what he does.
Joe Asshole is a psychopathic liar; he is too stupid to recognize the fact, but everybody knows it. You might just as well attempt to reason with or correct a random handful of mud as engage Joe Asshole.
Do not engage Joe Asshole; simply reply with insults; Joe Asshole deserves nothing other.
And no one ever called up in your 5 generations of military service, isn't that right Sevo?
The federalist is what was left out of the constitution and your law from 1795 is only a little less archaic than the constitution and the 2nd amendment. You can't prove otherwise because you know what you claim is bullshit.
high-velocity rounds capable
In other words, every rifle.
I used to think you were just a run of the mill troll, but you really are this fucking stupid, aren't you?
He had no idea what the words he was copying and pasting actually meant.
LOL
Touché
Funny.
As I recall in several shootings, lives were saved when the shooter's "semiautomatic gun with a high capacity magazine" jammed.
Earlier the British Army specification for the firing of a bolt action rifle was mentioned. I have an Enfield. I also have 10 round magazines for it. Goofing off at the range one day I fired 20 rounds in one minute with every round hitting a silhouette target at 50 feet.
It isn't the weapon, it's the shooter. The sooner that's figured out the better off we'll be.
Locking down schools isn't going to work either. What do they do if there is a bomb threat?
IIRC, those jams were with 100-round drum magazines, which are prone to jamming. (and I may not be recalling correctly).
The Army and Marine Corp has never adopted the 100 round drum magazine specifically because they are unreliable, even special ops don't use them. The Thompson had the same problem with the 50 and 100 round drum magazines, thus the Army and Marine Corp changed to the 20 and 30 round straight magazines for issue to combat troops. Drum magazines are used only by morons who don't understand their guns.
Hold the line!
The slippery slope is the undefeated champion.
SCOTUS says they can go pound sand.
Fed Pride parade
https://twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1543283283408158729?t=SeQE8YMqix_MT57CQQNhgg&s=19
Patriot Front right now marching in Boston, MA.
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Boston FBI office must have looked like a ghost town.
Haha! Most likely. If not, I still don't see violence or shit burning down. How will this get reported? A peaceful protest? Nah!
MSM - A deadly riot in Boston, MA today by white supremacist group Patriot Front. ENB will certainly post this in the daily roundup without any critical thought.
Arson is bad. Arson is terrible. The one thing you don't do to prevent arson is ban gasoline. Because millions of people use billions of gallons of it every year for lawful purposes.
Wanting to disarm the people who own the 40+ million AR-15s in this country to deter the 4 or 5 who will misuse them is the same.
https://twitter.com/alexchristy17/status/1543249089906851842?t=T7vEU2JzaT8XWSuWMdUIzA&s=19
Ali Velshi wants you to know that "Cuba, Argentina, Turkey, Russia, China, and I hope you are sitting down for this one, North Korea" have better abortion laws than the U.S.
This isn't the point you think it is, Ali.
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They do it to themselves, don't they.
I'm sure most Supreme Court Justices wonder what kind of craziness would enact laws for people who ignore laws then would disarm their victims. It's the kind of logic that leads to nations like Venezuela, Mexico, Cuba, North Korea, Russia, and a host of similar dictatorships. It's absurd and in the U.S., would spark armed resistance.
"Uvalde school district police chief plans to resign from city council post, officials say"
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"Pete Arredondo, the embattled police chief of the school district where 19 children and two teachers were killed in a shooting, is resigning from his city council post, city officials said.
A local newspaper in Uvalde, Texas, first reported Arredondo's decision to resign, which city officials later confirmed.
Arredondo, the police chief for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, served as incident commander during the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School on May 24. He has faced criticism and calls for his resignation as chief from parents and the Uvalde community over the police response and delay in breaching the classrooms where the gunman carried out the attack..."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/uvalde-school-district-police-chief-plans-resign-city/story?id=86124396
Sumbitch shoulda' been hung from the nearest light post.
Riddle me this - -
Given all the bullshit lockdown, business closing, experimental vaccine mandate, mandatory testing stuff "they" got away with, what terrible thing do "they" want to impose on us that "they" need us disarmed before "they" can even talk about it?
Gun control laws would make it easier for the state to punish the street thug and the gangbanger.
Sarc or stupidity?
No, because as we see here in St. Louis, prosecutors don't go after them, they go after people who try to protect themselves with guns
The Uvalde, Texas, school district’s police chief has stepped down from his position in the City Council just weeks after being sworn in following allegations that he erred in his response to the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School that left 19 students and two teachers dead.
Pete Arredondo said in a letter dated Friday that he has decided to step down for the good of the city and “to minimize further distractions.” He was elected to the council on May 7 and was sworn in on May 31, just a week after the massacre, in a closed-door ceremony.
https://worldabcnews.com/uvalde-texas-school-police-chief-resigns-from-city-council-amid-backlash-over-shooting-response/
Seems like a lot of you good people know more about guns than the average American. Probably more than the average European knows. Almost certainly more than the average Russian does. So how about loading up as many guns and as much ammo as you can and going to the assistance of a beleaguered people and place who can put all your expertise to good use?
One of the most common liberal attacks against semi-automatic long guns and high capacity magazine is claiming that during the time the 2nd Amendment was being considered all they had for firearms were muskets so that's how we should have it now. Guess what cupcakes, muskets were the "assault rifles" back in those days. In reality if they could have had modern firearms back then, they would have had them back then so the liberal interpretation is flawed at best.