'The Second Amendment Is Not Unlimited,' Brett Kavanaugh Stresses in SCOTUS Gun Case
“Properly interpreted, the Second Amendment allows a ‘variety’ of gun regulations,” Kavanaugh writes, invoking Antonin Scalia

"Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in District of Columbia v. Heller, his 2008 opinion recognizing an individual right to keep a handgun at home for self-defense purposes. "Nothing in our opinion," Scalia wrote, "should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."
Justice Brett Kavanaugh re-upped that language from Scalia today while signing on to Justice Clarence Thomas' majority opinion in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, in which Thomas held that "the Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home."
Kavanaugh agreed with Thomas about that. But Kavanaugh also wrote separately, joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, "to underscore two important points about the limits of the Court's decision."
First, Kavanaugh stressed, the constitutional problem with New York's licensing scheme for carrying handguns in public was that "it grants open-ended discretion to licensing officials and authorizes licenses only for those applicants who can show some special need apart from self-defense." By contrast, "43 States employ objective shall-issue licensing regimes. Those shall-issue regimes may require a license applicant to undergo fingerprinting, a background check, a mental health records check, and training in firearms handling and in laws regarding the use of force, among other possible requirements." Today's decision by the Court, Kavanaugh emphasized, did not touch any of that in any of those 43 states. "Shall-issue licensing regimes are constitutionally permissible, subject of course to an as-applied challenge if a shall-issue licensing regime does not operate in that manner in practice."
Kavanaugh's second point was drawn straight from the Heller language that I quoted above. "Properly interpreted," Kavanaugh wrote, invoking Scalia, "the Second Amendment allows a 'variety' of gun regulations."
Why would Kavanaugh write such a concurrence if he also fully joined Thomas' majority opinion? One possible reason is that Kavanaugh is looking ahead to future cases that will inevitably arise in the lower courts as legal challenges are levied against other gun control laws. Kavanaugh, joined by Roberts, may be signaling to the lower courts that, in his view, many such gun control regulations are presumptively constitutional, and lower court judges should therefore act accordingly. At the very least, many lawyers in future Second Amendment cases will be grappling with Kavanaugh's concurrence.
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"Properly interpreted," Kavanaugh wrote, invoking Scalia, "
the Second Amendment allows a 'variety' of gun regulationsthe words 'shall not be infringed' mean infringement is necessary."Infringe-ish.
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He just wants to ensure ppl aren't carrying in his workplace.
I’m seeing several liberals on Twitter upset that the court confirmed the right to concealed carry?
Is that correct? The court clearly ruled that people have a right to public carry, but did they specifically say that states cannot make laws against concealment, specifically?
Ah, Volokh answered my question. They confirmed a right to public carry, but not necessarily concealed: https://reason.com/volokh/2022/06/23/how-should-courts-evaluate-gun-regulations-after-bruen/
Hmm, my follow-up comment never got posted.
Volokh covered this question: The decision confirms the right to public carry, but a state May decide to allow only open public carry, with no concealed.
Kavanagh did try to Rape the 4th Ammendment, it's only a matter of time he try to Rape other Ammendmentd
So, in your opinion, banning child porn is an illegal infringement of the 1st amendment?
Somehow you guys never remember the "well regulated militia" part though.
We can read and understand what we read.
Because the "well regulated militia" is an explanatory clause; it explains the purpose of the amendment, but does not limit it. Look at like this, it makes no sense if you remove the second half the amendment reads as "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State." But the "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." is a perfectly functional statement.
No one here is forgetting the well regulated militia part. Crack a dictionary and you will learn that the one of the definitions of regulate is to control or keep in good working order. Anyone who collects antique clocks knows this because when the clockmaker services your grandfather clock he is regulating it. All it means is to keep your firearms in good working order.
As for the militia part “ I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials” George Mason, founding father. In short those that don’t represent the state are the militia.
Somehow you mental midgets never remember that SCOTUS took care of your retarded attempt at 'gotchas' in Heller
100 hours of class room instruction, along with 60 hours of range time, repeated every month can hardly be considered an infringement. After all, if it saves one life and it makes a left wing Democrat smirk...
Except that the Constitution says "arms" not "muskets."
Funny how the radical extremist, and corrupt, far-Right Conservative activist justices don't want to regulate the WMDs, like AR-15s, that the poorly educated know how operate.
Meanwhile, the radical extremist, and corrupt, far-Right Conservative activist justices have no problems when it comes to regulating the WMDs that the poorly educated don't know how operate.
All rights are based, derived from, the right to life. Do we need a ruler (someone with power over us) to "properly interpret" life? Isn't that the same as running our life? What does "properly" mean? Could it be a justification for changing, even reversing an interpretation? Back and forth? As with the right to consume alcohol? Is this sane? Is it a stable, reliable politics? Or, is it chaos?
No! Screw that, Kavanagh.
Hes really one of us Progs with his Living Constitution crap.
Like my dirty Depends....
Kavanaugh Writes Stuff To See His Own Words is better title.
...must have been reading from the Democrat dictionary.
I think it was very nice gesture from Justice Kavanaugh to tell future mass shooters, that as long as he is on the job, they won't ever have to worry about being unable to find and attack a gun free zone like a Church or School, Movie theater, Government (not private) buildings etc.
I must say, I am not impressed with the Federalist Society's track record in selecting Supreme court justices.
If I had the chance, I'd ask Kavanaugh why wrongful use of the right of free speech is only subject to after the fact restrictions, while it's OK, in his opinion, to subject the right to keep and bear arms to prior restraints on exercises that are only the whole almost always innocent.
I'm sure he has an excuse for that, I wonder if he'd have the honesty to admit his reasoning is not so far from Breyers' as he'd like to imagine?
He'd probably answer that Time, Place, and Manner restrictions are pretty well attested to in 1st Amendment cases.
So, viewpoint neutral laws that prevent people from blasting music at 2AM have been held up in court many times.
Anti-billboard laws have also been upheld, once again as long as they're viewpoint neutral. So, banning religious advertisements is not allowed, banning billboards entirely is.
Things like that.
I don't know what Kavanaugh's point with his concurrence is though. Might be that he's attempting to push towards a consistent standard of enforcement for the 1st and 2nd amendment, that is that the 2nd amendment can have Time, Place, and Manner restrictions as well, but not really anything else. Which is basically where the 1st amendment jurisprudence seems to be nowadays.
This is separate from my own feelings about it, just trying to read the tea leaves with my limited knowledge.
Like Roberts and so many Senators, he is a squish. Wants to be liked by all.
There's nothing wrong with saying that the 2nd Amendment allows SOME level of regulation. Almost nobody disputes that. The problem is that the left, and the lower courts so inclined to do so, are going to read his concurrence as a blank check to impose ANY level of regulation, no matter how stupid or ineffective.
There's still no standard of review in any of the opinions under which to judge magazine bans or "assault weapons" bans, as an example.
The rights exist whether they're recognized by robed lawyers or not.
Wrong.
Next...
Of course the right is limited. It is, first of all, limited to "people"; there is no right to arm bears. And it is also limited to "arms".
Convicted felons and the declared mentally ill have been subject to a due process, individually applied, with rebuttal allowed, thus legitimately denied their 2A rights.
The other prior restraints are not the result of individualized due process and should not be able to pass Constitutional scrutiny.
Legislative, blanket removal of Constitutional rights are not due process, yet the SCOTUS seems to think they are.
They need to have this idea corrected, maybe we can start with the blanket denials of due process, created by legislative action, when assets are seized, without charges even being filed.
Youre a bigger liar than I am !
So another law school graduate who can't seem to find "infringed" in the dictionary.
Infringe:
act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.
"his legal rights were being infringed"
Seems pretty far from what Kavanaugh seems to imply.
It would be nice if we quit making up "reasonable interpretations" of laws that do not in any way comport with the black letter of the law.
I truly believe that the whole fake rape allegations against Kavanaugh weren't intended to sink his candidacy, but force Republicans to defend someone who wasn't particularly conservative.
If not for that, he might have been Harriet Myers-ed
Well, I'm not sure why we ignored his money issues either.
Sexual assault and corruption? Seems like a perfect republican candidate.
Minus the sexual assault, unless you think "It happened sometime, somewhere, and nobody can actually back up my story" is a credible accusation.
"Properly interpreted", the 2A allows a ham sandwich to be elected president.
Seriously, the 2A, like the entire BoR, was a restriction on the federal government, reaffirming the fact that the power to regulate guns had not been delegated to the federal government.
Of course, once you interpret the BoR as applying to the states, now you're in the business of interpreting it as granting a limited list of rights. Since the BoR wasn't written for that purpose, language that is clear and precise in the context of the federal government is vague and indefinite in that context. It is not surprising that judges have to use Urim and Tummim to "interpret" what "rights" they establish.
SCOTUS is a joke, as is the body of law they have produced over the past century. We have gone from a clear, well-written constitutional order to nine people making up laws out of thin air as they go along, according to their reading of the political winds and their personal preferences. We'll have to live with it, but we should laugh at these people and their pronouncements.
'...variety...', more commonly referred to as the 'Ed Sullivan' exceptions to the Second Amendment, first mentioned in a footnote in a concurring opinion by Justice Topo Gigio.
NOYB2,
That is an excellent point on the difficulty with incorporating the BOR. Those rights were written as unqualified statements since the federal government was to have nothing at all to do with those subjects (speech, religion, etc,). To be fair, the supreme court has in many cases looked at the various state provisions concerning the same subjects to determine the scope of a BOR protection as generally understood (see US v Miller, 1939).
In Bruen, the majority imposes only the widely accepted view, as found in early state court cases ranging from the very narrow Aymette v TN to the very broad individual rights interpretation as in Nunn v GA, that while bearing arms in public can be regulated to some extent for public safety it cannot be completely denied without running afoul of the constitutional right to bear arms.
Well, I think incorporation should never have happened, for any of the BoR, including the 2A.
If NY wants to ban all gun ownership, allow abortions, and adopt a strict separation of church and state, they should be able to, just like Idaho should be able to ban abortion, allow gun ownership/concealed carry, and teach Christianity in school.
I think that was the original intent of the Constitution, and it was a good one: I think a nation as diverse and complex as the US cannot function in the long term if you try to impose a single policy on the whole nation. The Constitution guarantees free trade, free movement, and a bare minimum of legal processes enabling democratic decision making, and the rest ought to be up to the states.
(But we do need a mechanism for states like California and Oregon to split up along political lines.)
There is *very much* wrong with saying that the Second Amendment leaves room to be ‘interpreted’. Why do you think that the writers of the Constitution said, “Shall not be infringed,” if they *really* meant: “ Ah, go infringe a little bit; nobody will notice”?
I think the question about the 2A is whether it was intended to apply to the states when written; the 1A clearly was not.
Because 'shall not be infringed' is just too complicated for the layman to understand.
What arcane gobbeldygook did you put between those quotation marks? I can't make heads or tails of it.
sin,
Ivy League law graduate
I think that Justice Kavanaugh, like just Scalia, understand the implication of the opinion he has signed on to and is clearly attempting provide some cover. The passage of the most recent gun legislation suggest that tides may be turning. Mass shooting of school children will not be tolerated and accepted as necessary for someone to have a right to a gun.
Gun control is worthless in preventing mass shootings or school shootings.
Gun control is also worthless given that progressive DAs are unwilling to enforce it against criminals.
The gun control legislation that is passing is a fig leaf for moderate republicans and a token accomplishment for a failed president. It’s net effect will be nothing.
"Mass shooting of school children will not be tolerated and accepted as necessary for someone to have a right to a gun."
Wow. What? In which fantasyland does this statement make sense?
Prosecute criminals; do not make 99.9% of gun owners into criminals, who would not otherwise be.
Or break away and establish your own country.
And get your head out of your ass; or don’t because it won’t make any difference
...or you could stop having "gun-free" zones as mass shootings seem to occur exclusively at them.
Another activist court.
Apparently everyone is a well regulated militia by default. Sure, that makes perfect sense. /s
"Apparently everyone is a well regulated militia by default."
Basically, yes.
Gun Free Zones = Killing Zones of Innocent People
If a place says "Gun Free Zone", you would do well to stay out of it.
So how are bans on all guns in federal buildings, like the post offices, supposed to be judged? There's no standard of review. Are liberal lower court judges just going to point to Kavanagh's "variety of regulation" and rubber stamp basically any challenge that comes before them?
New York is going to pas a law that any borough with more the 10,000 people is a gun free zone.
Because “reasonable regulations” and gun free zones are permissible.
And now that law will have to work its way up to the Supreme Court in another 10 years
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Just quit making fun of me. Im demented and senile, what do you expect from an 80 year old child molester ?
.A President ?
Maybe somebody should explain to this idiot that the word "gun" isn't in the second amendment.
"...properly interpreted..." = using my authority to deny rights while claiming to protect them. This begs the question: Who will protect us from our protectors? For example, granting coercive (initiation against innocent citizens) force, to some, at the expense of rights, is a reputiation of (a contradiction of) rights, in practice. So, either you believe in rights, or not, but you can't have them, and change them around, e.g., a right by permission of others, granted, then removed, e.g., right to consume a drug (alcohol), then no right, then a "right by permission" again. But a right to consume drugs, generally (legally), no. Why? With a coercive political paradigm as is the paradigm in every country, more of less, rights are denied to some, by rulers who claim authority to act "for the common good" or "national security" or "the collective" even if innocent individuals are sacrificed.
Do you choose to be ruled or to self-govern? Voting for a rep is voting to be ruled, to have others run your life by force. Don't call it freedom if you value honesty.