Ohio Lawmakers Want To Subject Female Athletes to Genital Inspections
There’s reportedly only one trans female athlete competing in the state, but this sports ban can be used to harass cis girls as well.

Ohio lawmakers approved a particularly intrusive trans school sports ban Wednesday night by attaching it to a completely unrelated bill.
H.B. 61, the "Save Women's Sports Act," bans schools and colleges in Ohio from permitting "individuals of the male sex" from participating in women's sports. It covers any school that participates in organized interscholastic athletic conferences, meaning it covers private schools that compete against state-funded schools as well.
The bill does not explain what the "male sex" or "female sex" is. It does not say "trans" or "transgender" anywhere in the bill. It doesn't talk about birth or biological sex.
What it does instead is give people the power to dispute the sex of an individual athlete. Then it falls upon that athlete to prove their sex by going to a physician and getting a signed statement confirming the athlete's sex based on only the following:
"The participant's internal and external reproductive anatomy;"
"The participant's normal endogenously produced levels of testosterone;"
"An analysis of the participant's genetic makeup."
The bill does not specify who has the authority to levy such challenges, but it does authorize individuals or schools "who [are] deprived of an athletic opportunity or suffers a direct or indirect harm as a result of a violation of this section" to sue the school, school district, or conference who allowed the trans woman to play and be awarded damages.
So, to be very clear here, no evidence is needed that a particular athlete is trans or not a biological female in order to demand that she prove her sex. The athlete must then go to a physician and either subject herself to a physical inspection of her sexual organs or arrange for hormone or genetic tests. And no, the bill does not fund the costs of such tests.
The bill's wording is similar to one passed in Idaho in 2020 that is currently being challenged in federal court. This Ohio bill had first been introduced more than a year ago by sponsor Reps. Jena Powell (R–Arcanum) and Reggie Stoltzfus (R–Paris Township). The bill had been referred to the Primary and Secondary Education Committee and never voted on. On Wednesday evening, the text of the bill was attached to H.B. 151, an unrelated bill about the Ohio Teacher Residency Program, and passed.
News 5 in Cleveland notes that there is currently only a single trans female student competing in high school sports in Ohio. Powell, though, insists that this bill is needed to protect biological females.
"I am passionate about this issue because we cannot allow girls' dreams of being a gold medal athlete to be crushed by biological males stealing their opportunity," she said. "This bill ensures that every little girl who works hard to make it on a podium is not robbed of her chance by a biological male competing against her in a biological female sport."
For a moment, let's aside the cruelty of a complete one-size-fits-all rejection of trans participation in girls' sports regardless of the sport or situation, the assumption that the trans girl has an advantage, and whether the existence of this problem even requires government intervention.
Let's instead think for just a few minutes about what is likely to happen if these rules become law. This bill does not require the person levying the complaint to provide any evidence that the accused athlete is trans or not a biological female. The bill puts the onus on the target to prove that she is a biological female and is permitted to compete. And it provides financial incentives for parents, athletes, and other schools to file complaints and officially prohibits retaliation or punishment against anybody who files such complaints.
The potential for these regulations to be used to harass biologically female athletes is very high. Assuming the claim is true that there's only one trans female athlete competing in Ohio, isn't the most likely outcome of this bill complaints against biological girls who appear more masculine or muscular, who are stronger than the other girls, and who even have more naturally produced testosterone than other girls, but who are nevertheless the biological females Powell claims she wants to protect?
We live in a country where parents assault the umpires at little league games, for heaven's sake. You better believe that these rules will be turned against some of the best female athletes by other parents or schools regardless of the girls' biology. And they're going to have to subject themselves to intrusive testing to prove who they are. Biological girls are not the beneficiaries of this bill—politicians wanting to score culture war points propping up a particular social conservative constituency are.
There are ways that sports programs can navigate the participation of trans women in a way that can be inclusive of trans athletes yet also recognizes the potential for fraud and can evaluate participants for unfair advantages. But that's a complicated and challenging process that requires people to be willing to compromise. Politically, Americans are not in a place where that can happen. When Utah politicians attempted to create a compromise bill that would have created a commission to do this, it was replaced at the last minute by a Republican lawmaker with a complete ban.
Though this new ban passed the House, Ohio's Senate is currently not in session and won't be back until after the November election. Republicans have a supermajority control of the Senate, so they can most certainly get this bill across the finish line in a post-election lame-duck session.
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Chromosomes don't lie.
Actually they do on occasion. It's rare, but biological sex is not 100% correlated with the presence or absence of a Y chromosome. One's biological sex (the gonads and genital morphology) one is born with are determined primarily by hormones during fetal development. So there is a strong correlation but it's not absolute.
There have been cases where a biological female, biologically female since birth, fully raised as female, etc., discovered during sports related testing that they were genetically male.
I looked it up and what I read said it's around one in fifteen thousand. In my opinion that's not enough to be a basis for policy.
It's not. Those are edge cases- exceptions to the rule, and he knows that. The trans lobby love to point out these edge cases where a very small percentage of people don't fit the rule to try and invalidate the rule. There are scientific definitions of male and female sex, and the vast majority of humans fit neatly into those rules.
and most importantly, we have yet to encounter a single instance of an XXY person, an intersex person, or any of the other examples that are thrown out there...being the issue
The issue has always been a clearly male XY person who is kind of OK at male sports beating the shit out of XX females.
When we have a slew of cases of intersex people, other chromosomal abnormalities, etc being the problem, maybe we can reconsider the approach. But as of now, it has been 100% XY men kicking women's asses.
"and most importantly, we have yet to encounter a single instance of an XXY person, an intersex person, or any of the other examples that are thrown out there...being the issue"
Most true genetically intersex people have enough problems getting their organs to function properly, let alone complete in sports.
Of course Brandyfuck knows this, but... you know... the narrative.
"and most importantly, we have yet to encounter a single instance of an XXY person, an intersex person, or any of the other examples that are thrown out there...being the issue"
A single instance of "an XXY person, an intersex person, or any of the other examples that are thrown out there...being the issue".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya
Wrong. Semenya is a man with XY chromosomes and testicles.
"Semenya is an intersex woman,[8] assigned female at birth,[9] with XY chromosomes and naturally elevated testosterone levels caused by the presence of internal testes."
So Caster's a boy with undescended testicles, XY chromosomes and no vaginia who had girl written on their birth certificate by a very shitty obstetrician.
That doesn't invalidate JimboJr's point.
It's sexism. The poor boy had no dick, so it was better to raise him as a girl than allow him to suffer the trauma of being a dickless boy. This is how transsexualism started in the US. When radical circumcision became popular in the US after WW2, there were, in rare cases, complications and mistakes that resulted in the loss of the penis. Horrified at the idea of a boy having to grow up with no dick, doctors came up with the idea of "transitioning" these boys into girls, with surgery and hormones. It was later that this was proposed as a treatment for sex dysphoria.
"Horrified at the idea of a boy having to grow up with no dick, doctors came up with the idea of "transitioning" these boys into girls, with surgery and hormones. "
There was exactly one case of this. The doctor was a horrific sex abuser pervert who forced the boy and his brother to engage in simulated sex acts and they boys both eventually committed suicide as adults. It was a horrible thing pushed by sick people then, just like now.
No, it's not just one case, and male-to-female "transitioning" of children with genital deformities or injuries continues today.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20171026/loop/forced-into-genital-surgery-as-babies-intersex-adults-fight-back
Transitioning is no longer necessary in these situations because nowadays a boy with no sick can lead a full and productive life as a member of the Uvalde Police Department.
Wouldn't the same apply for this law then? What is the rate of transgender men in women's sports?
Really we don't need the government in sports at all. Leave it up to the schools/leagues to make their own rules.
But public schools ARE the government.
Yeah? I don't get your point. Are you saying that since government is already involved in education, that justifies its further intrusion into sports? There's an important difference. The government forces you to go to school, but sports are optional.
But public schools ARE the government. The government is not "involved" in them. The government is not an "intrusion" into them. PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE THE GOVERNMENT.
1. Public schools are the government.
2. Its not up to the schools/leagues but up to their audience.
1 So are you saying this justifies government intrusion into those schools sports? (Not accusing, just asking)
2 I disagree, but I'd be fine with this if it was so. Then do we agree the government should not be making laws governing sports?
Sports in government schools are GOVERNMENT sports. Why shouldn't government be making rules for their own sports programs? What aren't you getting here?
I'm not getting how anyone thinks the government should be concerned with and legislating rules for extracurricular sports. This is the antithesis of limited government.
They're THE GOVERNMENT'S SPORTS PROGRAMS. Are you retarded or something?
I'm only mildly retarded.
Leave it up to the schools/leagues to make their own rules.
You've reversed your attachment to reality. Schools/leagues made up their own rules for hundreds of years with no problem, despite the supposedly natural prevalence of transgender athletes. The whole reason this is an issue now is because the LGBT community (and, admittedly, *some* of the LGB part of the community disagrees) wants the government to fix it for them.
And, even then, he's bullshitting around your facts. The one in 15,000 you quote is someone born with a set of chromosomes and genitalia that don't match, but the mismatch is obvious from birth. The situation he describes, where nobody has any clue until the onset of puberty or whatever is in the one in hundred thousands, if not millions range.
You're talking about Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, right? If so, you are right that it occurs and also right that it is very, very rare. As in, about one in 500,000 genetic males. Call it 300 examples in a population about the size of the US.
And if your morphology and hormone levels differ from your chromosomes, you can then count yourself as intersex. That is exceedingly rare and easy to diagnose.
Everybody else is either male or female.
Actually they do on occasion.
No, they don't.
Because he wasn't 'biologically female'. He IS biologically intersex with genitalia that appears enough within the range of normal female that it wasn't questioned.
Just because no one looked doesn't mean the chromosomes lied.
If a sport offers separate teams for men and women, what is wrong with prohibitong everyone from joining the team not reserved for their sex?
I think it's pretty terrible that we're even in the situation where people think a law might be necessary. I'd like to think it still isn't necessary, and public opinion will put a stop to the destruction of women's sports, but people do seem awfully willing to swallow a lot of bullshit these days.
Wait until they finally run out of patience. Then things will get interesting.
The vast majority of people have no problem with sex segregated sports teams.
My high school actually had a sex-integrated football team, but only because there were no separate teams for boys and girls.
I don't think many male leagues specifically exclude females. There was one girl who played on the football team when I was in high school.
No one who has a brain and thinks that females should have a space where they can excel at competitive sports could reasonably object to sex segregated sports. Top level male league will always coincide perfectly with top level everyone league.
Why should females specifically have such a space, rather than just people who are not good at competitive sports, where they can excel?
For the same reason we have para-sports, there is a basic definable difference with sex and physical disabilities that is limiting that cannot be said about something like coordination. Much as morons like Scott want to deny biology and reality, no amount of marxist gender ideology is going to change the facts.
But you can define basic differences by skill too. For instance in track, just sort competitors by how fast they are. You can have competition for the fastest, competition for the fastest among the slowest, etc. There are leagues in which there's promotion of competitors who do best, and relegation of those who do the worst. There are many ways to do it, and that's not even counting handicapping of scores.
We're trying to allow women to play sports.
Doing it your way, there would be very, very, very few women playing sports.
That's why there's sex segregation. You could get a team of 14 year old boys who couldn't make the freshman basketball team and they would still dominate the best varsity girls team in the state.
Or those 14/15 year old boys would easily beat the US women's Olympic soccer team, and the Australian women's national soccer team.
We already do this. Wrestling and boxing have weight classes. Baseball has Major and Minor leagues. Professional football teams are segregated by ability into 'strings' - second string, third string, etc.
You're not making the point you think you are making.
If you wish to do away with women's sports, knock yourself out with the demand.
The best female athlete in any sport would not be competitive with a MIDDLING male.
Lia Thomas was a quite dominant "female". As a male...middle of the pack on his best day.
Those people have their space too. Its called 'at the park, on Sunday afternoon'.
People who are not good at sports, by definition, cannot excel. But they can excel relative to other similarly situated people.
There are plenty of opportunities of all kinds of people. As SJIN said, that is why we we have Paralympics. It’s also why there are weight classes in martial arts and weightlifting. And age classes (over 50 leagues, etc.). Women’s sports is just another one of those categories, but iIn my opinion, the most important one. Why do people feel the need to shit all over it?
Because people want women and girls to play sports and compete against their peers. I don't think there's any logical home run here. It's just what people seem to want.
Our High School Rifle Team was sex-integrated.
They call the gun the great equalizer for a reason.
I'd like to think it still isn't necessary, and public opinion will put a stop to the destruction of women's sports, but people do seem awfully willing to swallow a lot of bullshit these days.
Agreed that it's sad we're even in the situation where a law might be necessary and agreed I would prefer a social reckoning. However, I think you're a bit naive to assume it's strictly limited to women's sports. The US Women's Soccer team's repeated pay disputes pretty solidly indicates that it's about bringing all sports organizations to heel.
Wow. Intrusive testing? Just get a note from the obstetrician who "assigned" the sex. Oh yeah, it's called a birth certificate.
Like politicians could ever do something that simple and straightforward.
In some states it's now possible to get the sex on your birth certificate changed when you "transition", so that's not dispositive.
Changing birth records:
https://www.usbirthcertificates.com/articles/transgender-birth-certificates
"The bill does not explain what the "male sex" or "female sex" is."
If you're too stupid to admit you do not know what female and male sex is, I would avoid bragging about it.
"For a moment, let's aside the cruelty of a complete one-size-fits-all rejection of trans participation in girls' sports regardless of the sport or situation"
There ARE sports that literally have zero sexual requirements. The "men's" sports do not actually require one to be a man to participate. At all. Trans can try and participate in those.
If you're too stupid to admit you do not know what female and male sex is, I would avoid bragging about it.
We just hired a Supreme Court judge that doesn’t know.
But she (assumed) has the only two qualifications required.
Do we really know she's a woman? Do we really know she's black? We could be getting played. She could begin identify as a White man at any moment, and then where would we be? Another privileged White man on the Supreme Court, taking a seat that was supposed to go to a black woman!
If the athlete has "Tab-A" it's male, if it has "Slot-B" it's female.
Simple enough.
The "men's" sports do not actually require one to be a man to participate. At all. Trans can try and participate in those.
But, but then trannies would be supporting women, men, TERFs, the patriarchy, everyone else, and objective reality than their own delusions and we can't have that!
The Adam’s apple never lies.
So Ann Coulter really is a dude?
We could just have Austin Powers punch everyone and then try to rip the wig off.
Isn't that ace ventura?
Ace Ventura pulled Einhorn's blouse open (that kind of surgery can happen over a weekend), then pulled "her" pants down to reveal "she" was Ray Finkle.
MISINFORMATION ALERT.
Reason.com is usually a pretty good source of information, but there are exceptions, such as this article right here.
"Genital inspections" is hyperbolic crap. Hence you should actually read the text. All it requires is a note from a doctor. And this is all already covered anyway, because a basic physical is already needed to participate in ALL school sports. Did Mr. Shackford object to those prior to this bill?
But if you still think that genitals are so sacred they should be extra hidden, you might be horrified to find out that for the 99% of so of us that were born in a hospital, someone already looked at them, and already recorded that information on a birth certificate. Therefore, it's already a matter of public record.
Someone saw my pee pee?
Thanks for labeling your comment as misinformation.
Derp da derp da tiddly terp.
Stop sockpuppeting, Jeff. Take responsibility for your opinions.
You can apply this alert to every article from Shackford lately.
All it requires is a note from a doctor.
And how does the doctor know?
turns out a lot of them are in fact, biologists!
There are miles of daylight between getting an exam from a doctor that certifies your biological sex by noting you have a penis and testicles or a vagina and uterus, and GENITAL INSPECTIONS, which implies that coaches are going to demand to look at athletes' junk in the locker room.
By performing a sports physical?
That was my thought. Has he ever been through a sports physical?
Another Shackford panic about the reality of biological sex.
It's a Scott article.
Scott is a fag groomer pedofile, who will do anything to push the queer Marxist agenda.
As I said above, some states now allow trannies to have the sex on their birth record changed, so the birth certificate could be inaccurate.
Changing birth records:
https://www.usbirthcertificates.com/articles/transgender-birth-certificates
Which is why they shouldn't be changed. But at least I believe there's still a record that it was changed, which is a huge clue that the person is transgender.
Every time u see SS has written an article I wonder: what's his lie in this one
In this article it comes after the word ohio
ohio lawmakers are creepers.
I still think we're in a very weird moment. I wonder what will collapse things back down to earth again. I'm thinking war in Asia, but I don't know.
Same as always. The old generation will die off and this will be the new normal.
Nope. Genderism is a passing fad. It's never been "normal" anywhere on Earth.
These same gender activists had no problem deciding who men and women were in regards to abortion opinions.
Massive culling of leftists.
That's literally the only way
So what's going to stop people making challenges against the daughters, nieces, and cousins of the politicians who voted for this bill? No proof is needed, only an accusation. Whereupon they have to pay for the testing and examination of their hoohah.
Petard, meet hoist.
>> the daughters, nieces, and cousins of the politicians
laws don't apply to these people.
^this
Simple blood test would do the trick. The very extreme and rare cases of intersex/hermaphrodites are not necessary to cater to.
If you are XY play with the XY's. XX's compete together.
100% of the issues that have come up are XY men stomping the hell out of XX women. Lets not pretend this intersex red herring is or ever was the issue at hand.
Or, XXs compete on either team. No need to restrict women from men's teams.
sure and thats fine, but of course it would shake out as only XY's. There are really only a few roles on teams a female can fill on a 99% men's team.
Kicker on the football team is a good one. If they are OK accepting the risk of getting absolutely railed by the opposing line backer from time to time. But if so, they can certainly do a good job as the kicker. Wont be able to kick as far, but still could be pretty functional.
Anyways, it would obviously be fine to allow, itll just self segregate based on talent.
Even kicker goes out the window once the other team actually hits back. The lower bone and muscle density plus the lower height and weight will mean they'll take very few real tackles before going out permanently from injuries.
Had a girl kicker on a local high school team. They recruited a really strong player off the girls soccer team. She did extra points pretty accurate from the 2 yd line.
But they had a guy kicker who did all the kickoffs and any FGs from distance.
Kathy Ireland held her own.
She did have Scott Bakula holding for her though, so maybe it was a confidence boost.
There are really only a few roles on teams a female can fill on a 99% men's team.
Much less, fill across all "men's" teams across all tiers of the sport. As in, if you wanted even 50% of professional kickers in the NFL to be women in the next 10 yrs. and for the next 10 yrs. you'd have to probably have to take whatever number of male kickers you recruit next year and find twice as many female kickers and, iteratively, however many HS males you get interested in and trained to kick, double that number of female potential kickers. And those numbers just aren't there.
"The potential for these regulations to be used to harass biologically female athletes is very high."
Stop pretending to be concerned about harassment of biologically female athletes. You're not concerned about biologically female athletes being bullied into competing against biologically male athletes, and then being forced to keep their mouth shut about the rank unfairness of it or be punished.
It doesn't matter if there's one, 21, or 101 trans athletes competing on girls' teams. One trans athlete with an unfair advantage deprives all other female athletes of the opportunity to meaningfully compete in their sport, and that can cost them scholarships, endorsements and sponsorships, Olympic opportunities, etc.
Since when do we care if "it's only just a couple of people whose rights are being trampled?"
we have to trample on 50% of the population to appease 0.1%
And the 50% better shut the fuck up about it, or else.
Nobody told Ron DeSantis:
https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Gov.-Ron-DeSantis-Proclamation-Declaring-Emma-Weyant-as-NCAA-500y-Freestyle-National-Champion.pdf
He's not concerned about biologically female athletes being bullied into sharing a locker room with biologically male athletes either.
"Let that dude flash you every day or we're revoking your scholarship." Sounds like quid pro quo sexual harassment to me.
Biologically female athletes aren’t being harassed anyway; they have their girl parts inspected regularly as part of routine preventative medical care.
Could Shackford please explain what is the argument for including M to F trans athletes in girl"s sports?
The understanding that girl's sports excluded males has been fairly clear from when such divisions were started, and physical advantages of males over females at
competitive levels of sport are well established.
The argument is that trans people must be validated at all costs. Biological realities are immaterial. Feeling like a girl is enough to completely change your physiology.
Is this going to be "dont say gay" part 2?
Another example where we just need to read the actual bill rather than the narrative interpretation that CNN or Wapo tells us is true?
Why blame CNN or Wapo? Scott's the one who wrote the article.
A lot of the women who will be cheated out of their spots will be black women. I’m not sure they’ve thought this through, letting the crazies drive decision-making.
itll probably take a few podium pictures of a clearly physically superior white male tranny standing over a strong wamon of color who truly should have won.
That these SJW wedge issues are pushing Blacks away from the Democrats could be a silver lining to this insanity.
It's called backlash, Scott, and when you fuck with people's children you run the risk of eating a face full of it.
let's [set] aside..the assumption that the trans girl has an advantage
IOW, let's handwave away the very reason this legislation is necessary.
Let's instead think for just a few minutes about what is likely to happen if these rules become law
Kids already are required to take a physical to participate in athletics. Is there significantly more indignity for the tiny number asked to verify their sex? This legislation addresses a very real problem: either girl's/women's sports becomes the d-league for the lesser be-penised, or it continues to be a way for the fairer sex to participate in organized athletics.
All school athletes are already checked "down there" in their required physical exams in order to find hernias.
Was going to say this as well. We had hernia checks by the school nurse even just for intramural sports.
Could kill 2 birds here.
The bill does not explain what the "male sex" or "female sex" is.
Because everyone already knows, including you, Scott.
And they're going to have to subject themselves to intrusive testing to prove who they are.
No more intrusive than the physical exams already required of school athletes. But I guess it's no surprise that Scott doesn't know that.
There are ways that sports programs can navigate the participation of trans women in a way that can be inclusive of trans athletes yet also recognizes the potential for fraud
Men competing on women's sports teams by claiming they are women is always fraud. It doesn't matter how they perceive themselves.
What ways is Scott proposing? Because so far, the only way that's been "proposed" is complete and total acceptance, and you better not complain.
Even for Scott, this is over the top.
Does anyone know of a libertarian web site?
Scott man, I dont know if you are just super amped up for pride month or something...but these have been some pretty stupid takes lately.
These gender weirdos are not your friend. Especially if you in any way think yourself a libertarian.
Gay men are doing notably well in society. Not only that, but there are a lot of cis-gender gay white men. Dont think for a second you aren't next in the scope
White Gay men are already considered members of the oppressor class by the SJWs.
I haven't yet seen anyone object to the idea I've held my entire adult life, which is to abolish sex-specific competition categories in favor of ability-based class competition. You know, there'd be a class for the top competitors, and so on down to those who really aren't good at the sport but enjoy competing in it. We do this in many sports outside the academic milieu.
Come to think of it, we should separate sports and school too. It's been an odd match that came about for historic reasons because of favorable publicity about intramural sports in English public schools.
Sure that all sounds fine. But what would clearly happen is:
Top category would be what we all know as the men's division.
No one would really care about any of the other divisions therefore they would not be televised.
The bottom divisions would likely be akin to what we commonly have as intramural sports. We have that available right now.
Most importantly, it would take away women competing to see who is the best, with all other things being equal.
If a woman really is the cream of the crop, she deserves the chance to prove she is the best. Not to be relegated to compete with the men who are mediocre to bad at the sport (which is where they would compete).
Serena Williams would go from a dominant force to competing in the bottom tier non televised category. And I think she deserves better than that given her skill and ability. The US womens soccer team would go from a championship team to literally all riding the bench or playing against the worst of the men. Removing a variable that has a massive advantage (male physiology) is the most fair way to allow them to compete.
The vast majority of all sports are not televised, so what's the difference? Most sporting competitions have 0 spectators. Others have more competitors than spectators. Some sports have no spectator appeal even when the best in the world are competing, but the competitors still have fun. And when the two worst in the world at the most unpopular games in the world are competing, don't you think they have fun? Don't you think they're interested in being matched against others at their level?
So what if there's no ladies' or girls' division, but instead a bad-at-this-sport division? Won't it be fun for them?
Why can't the current players of the US women's soccer team join teams of other people who are at their skill level in soccer, regardless of sex? Don't you think they'd still have a good time?
I think the US womens team likely would enjoy competing at the highest level in their sport, with the potential to win the accolades of best in the world if they win.
They are actually able to go play in a mixed intramural league somewhere. I have a feeling playing with high school or college guys, non-televised, and for no glory would be a big downgrade for them.
At elite levels of sport, "just having a good time" isn't the point. Winning is the point. It's fundementally unfair to create categories where women don't have a chance to qualify for elite competition because of biological differences.
Right. We need women's sports for the same reason there's weight divisions in boxing and wrestling.
The purpose of professional sports is to get people to watch so you can sell merchandise and ad space
TheOne purpose of professional sports is to get people to watch so you can sell merchandise and ad spaceDo you really think jv men should be allowed to beat up on the best chick pros? Seriously that is their skill level
You're probably being too generous here. They are regularly beaten by U-14 teams. That puts them somewhere around middle school or freshman male levels of competition. How far would we have to expand the levels of competition to get any real female representation in a given sport? In combat sports that are already divided by weight women wouldn't have a chance and would be at a huge risk of serious injury
Don't you think they'd still have a good time?
No. They aren't playing soccer to have a good time. You might say that they're playing soccer to make money, but even that's varyingly untrue. Some/many are playing soccer to spite men and not just any men, the top tier men in their respective sport. They've demonstrated they will shit on soccer, rules, logic, law, and contracting and human agency in order to spite men, what gives you the least inclination that they'll be content playing on an even field against men who are roughly equally skilled as them?
I've objected to this because it's a sanctimonious retconning of plagiarized history. You should reject your lying eyes and accept my truth/genius. Do you really think none of us has played coed sports? None of us has seen mixed doubles tennis or mixed relays? None of us can watch men's golf and women's golf, men's weightlifting and women's weightlifting, men's swimming and women's swimming, etc., etc., etc. and see that there's a reason why women prefer to compete amongst themselves? Men's sports overwhelmingly isn't sex-specific and coed sports is not some retarded fringe ideology that no one has heard of since ancient Rome. Everybody understands why the sexes are segregated and you pretending like you don't makes you the retard.
Moreover, it doesn't address the issue from either side. Leah Thomas didn't switch to the women's division because he really loved swimming. He switched because he's trans and he wants to be number 1. If Leah were forced to compete against men, he would no longer be number one, he would be just another (trans) woman oppressed by the patriarchy. It's a false solution to a problem that shouldn't have been entertained in the first place.
maybe a panty sniffing test?
Tribes with massive inferiority complexes who are very small minorities crave attention and "celebration.' Pride month? Why? Straight month? sorry, that isn't going to happen. Oh, that is "cis"..what bullshit. Sorry I'm straight.
Now on sports. Why do we have women and men's divisions? I'll give you an easy example Scott. I ran times in high school in the 800 meters that would have qualified me for the US womans Olympic finals 800 meters. And I was the third best half miler in my high school. A world elite woman 800 meter runner runs just under 2 minutes. Men run 1:43 or faster. That is over 100 meters easy.
Why would you let some young male who has decided they "identify" as a female compete against females? Who is getting discriminated here Scott? Why should we change the standards just because it doesn't give you the social outcomes you want? This really is just the equity agenda..you don't get what you want so you just change the standards, qualifications and so on.
Just another case of Republicans being mean to LGBT because they are bigot sacks of shit. Move along nothing to see.
Imagine having the audacity to have tolerance for someone that has a mental health problem but not actively agree that their delusions are real.
This folks is what passes for "bigotry" nowadays. We are basically a bunch of Klansmen for calling the sky blue and grass green.
This nonsense has nothing to do with gays and lesbians.
It’s progressive idiots like you who are “mean to gays and lesbians” by lumping us together with the mentality ill.
This nonsense has nothing to do with gays and lesbians.
You mean, aside from the fact that Scott "Don't say gay" Shackford wrote it?
Go ahead, tell me that calling Scott "Don't say gay" Shackford a liar is an ad hominem and when he lies, empirically, he shouldn't be attacked for lying. Bonus points for explaining why it shouldn't be done because his lies have nothing to do with homosexuals.
They've always been subject to proving their sex. Same as male athletes. What does your birth certificate say?
Most states will now change the sex on the birth certificates of trannies.
https://www.usbirthcertificates.com/articles/transgender-birth-certificates
Good god, this article is tendentious and inflammatory.
What Ohio law says is that a doctor is the final arbiter of what your biological sex is, as it should be. That’s why they don’t have to define sex in the bill, it’s defined by the doctor based on standard physical characteristics.
Lawmakers are not forcing anybody to have their genitals inspected. You can have a genetic test instead if you like. However, since standard physical exams involve examination of the sex organs, a doctor can certify your biological sex based on a routine physical.
as i said above this feel like don't say gay all over again.
An extremely disingenuous take on a bill with the express purpose of making it sound appalling.
I would expect this take from Vox, not on reason
The only thing more dishonest that a cop with a badge? A writer with one.
Any volunteers for the job of genital inspector?
There should be an app for that.
Ohio Lawmakers Want To Subject Female Athletes to Genital Inspections
SCOTT SHACKFORD
No reason to read further. Ohio Lawmakers may actually want to subject female athletes to genital inspections but I wouldn't trust Scott to honestly tell me the time of day... or not want to inspect male athletes' genitals himself.
Solution.
End school sports. It’s a waste waste of government funding.
For many voters, sports are the only reason they support school tax levies.
Those voters may want to consider education as an alternative primary mission for schools.
In many cases, the public schools might want to consider education as an alternative primary mission.
Looks up-thread: No turd, Joe Asshole, the shitbag Tony, looks like a good examination of the issue.
Great
It's illegal to permit children of the opposite sex to expose themselves to each other.
Based 'only' on the following? 'only'?
Do you truly think, Scott, that your fucking feelings have any fucking effect on the sex you physically are?
Get fucked, groomer.
Go long on aluminum producers, guys. I read through the comments, and it's apparent that the demand for "tinfoil" (actually aluminum foil) already has and is going to continue to skyrocket to keep the moonbats supplied with their tri-corner "tinfoil" hats. In addition to proclaiming your allegiance to moonbatdom, the hats allow you to receive secret microwave messages from whomever is orbiting the earth in the purple mother ship, as many of the commenters above are already sharing the benefits from.