Strict U.S. Immigration Laws Leave Migrants Dependent on Human Smugglers
Human smugglers at Mexican border won’t be sought after if migrants can come to the U.S. legally.

Tougher immigration enforcement at the U.S.-Mexico border over the past 50 years has made human smuggling more profitable and resulted in an ever-increasing number of desperate people employing smugglers to reach America. To end human smuggling, U.S. laws and policies must provide significantly greater avenues for individuals to live and work legally in the U.S. and to gain access to human rights protections—including, to the extent possible, before they reach the U.S. border.
The vast majority of activity on the Southern border involves human smuggling—someone paying to be taken across the country's border. This is different than human trafficking, which is far less common.
Former President Donald Trump and current Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas agree that human smugglers are bad. Yet neither succeeded in limiting human smuggling or illegal border crossings.
Despite tougher rhetoric and somewhat harsher policies under the Trump administration, apprehensions at the Southwest border, a proxy for illegal entry, increased by more than 100 percent between FY 2016 and FY 2019 (from 408,870 to 851,508). Apprehensions dropped in March 2020 because of the pandemic but by August and September 2020 returned to the approximate level of illegal entry during those same months in FY 2019. In FY 2021, a little over nine months of which included the Biden presidency, apprehensions reached a nominal high of 1.66 million. Border Patrol agents have used Title 42 to expel people without further processing, causing many would-be immigrants to attempt multiple crossings, making historical comparisons difficult.
Human smuggling is a dangerous, booming business. Drug cartels, while they don't control smugglers, earn money by capitalizing on the misery of those smuggled. Cartels charge tolls for smugglers who move through their territory and extort money by kidnapping and demanding ransom from victims' relatives in the United States.
Increased enforcement has encouraged virtually every unauthorized immigrant to use a smuggler. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) notes that "smuggler usage rates have increased steadily over the last 5 decades," with the percentage of migrants using smugglers rising from 40 percent to 50 percent in the 1970s to 95 percent by 2006, coinciding with increased federal spending on immigration enforcement.
U.S. law enforcement also concedes human smugglers are service providers. "Migrants will only tolerate higher fees to the extent that smugglers provide an essential and successful service," according to a 2018 DHS report. "Smugglers also compete to attract customers by offering their services at the lowest profitable rate, so higher fees indicate rising costs to smugglers." There is no evidence U.S. enforcement will ever make smuggling prices too high for migrants.
Arrest one smuggler and another one will pop up. It's a pretty low bar to become a human smuggler—almost anyone from south of the border can become one. "Smuggling markets tend to possess low barriers to entry and remarkably similar organizational arrangements in all the main smuggling routes in the world," University of Cambridge professor of criminology and complex networks Paolo Campana wrote. The Washington Post even profiled a Mexican teenager who earned money for years as a smuggler. He was never prosecuted due to his age.
There is one way to make human smuggling drop significantly or even largely disappear—allow those who now pay smugglers instead to obtain a legal visa to work in the United States. Apprehensions at the border dropped 95 percent between 1953 to 1959 when the Immigration and Naturalization Service liberalized the entry of Mexican farmworkers via the Bracero program. Today, establishing a new work visa with sufficient annual allocations, expanding the H-2B visa category, and negotiating bilateral agreements between the United States and Mexico, as well as countries in Central America, would increase legal avenues to work and eliminate the need for individuals to pay smugglers.
Expanding opportunities for individuals to apply for protection in their home countries—via refugee interviews at consulates and circuit rides—would also make it less likely for people to pay smugglers to reach the United States. Migrants should be able to apply for refugee status from their home country. That way they don't resort to human smugglers just to be denied refugee status at the border. And, in that case, an opportunity to obtain a work visa at a consulate and travel legally to the U.S. would be a good alternative for many individuals and their families.
Human smugglers would be happy to see the U.S. keep the same immigration policies that have allowed their business to flourish over the last 50 years. Making legal immigration an easier avenue will create a safer alternative for migrants.
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Whew! After the 'Feinstein Sacrament' article yesterday, I was worried that Reason had taken a turn back to sanity. Good to see that Reason is quite content to encourage immigration policies to encourage human smugglers to bring their unique skillset to more domestic illegal employment like assault, kidnapping, and murder.
Lol, this is like saying we shouldn't unban alcohol because the bootleggers smuggling in the alcohol will commit other crime so we shouldn't address one of the victimless crimes that enables them to be important actors. One of the stupidest things I have ever read. Congrats!
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Sure, Sure; because it's a PERSONAL CHOICE to invade someone else's turf.........
RBAY -- "One of the stupidest things I have ever read. Congrats!"
Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime.
Get rid of the welfare systems and then we can talk about open borders. I'm not going to pay to import poverty.
That’s like saying we should get rid of mass shootings before we allow guns. No, freedom comes first, and then we go after the entitlements.
The freedom of invasion???
Sorry if I choose to place my own freedom ever so slightly higher than the freedom of other to freeload off of me.
Bigot. How deplorable.
No, it’s not like saying that at all.
And unless you’re a US Citizen, you don’t have the freedom to enter the US.
And if we legalize murder, wives won't have to hire hit men to collect their husband's insurance....
Strict U.S. homicide laws leave disgruntled spouses dependent on Mafia.
Clever, but no. Victimless "crimes" should disappear. No one wants to legalize violent behavior.
I take it your back yard is now open territory for everyone to wonder into??
Trespassing is just a 'victimless' crime.... /s
there IS no suth thing as a victimless crime. Unless you are telking about perhaps selling beer to a nineteen year old who does not get drunk and cause a car crash, or maybe driving hyuor own car 25 mph over the posted limit when the nearest car is half a mile away on a clear warm dry day.
These migrants" as you want to cal them, by the very act of TRYING to enter our territory when they are not lawfully authorised to do so ARE committing victim- involved, not victimless, crimes. They take resources away from we who rightfully should have them, iuncur huge expenses and lsses, take jobs/wages away from those lawfully here, cause tax dollars (MY money) to be used to attempt to control and repulse such illegal entry, incur costs on the rest of them IWHO is paying for those endless pallets of baby formula Biden is sending to the border, when others rightfully here cannot get them at any prie?) and the lst goes on. END your drivel about "victimless crimes" wiht respect to illegal border crashers. They HURT us all.
These types of articles and the nude dancing at the Libertarian Party convention demonstrate why voting third party is just pissing your vote away.
Nude dancing?
Libertarian Party Convention..
Like most nude beaches, the nude dance floor at the LP convention is very disappointing.
Things I do not want to see. Trust capitalism and pay for your nude dancing. Quality control is a must.
Do your homework Stuart instead of taking cheap shots. Immigration lawyers don't want the current system changed. They make too much money from it. The funny thing is that those same lawyers donate heavily to the Democrats to keep things that way. You call out Trump, but, don't mention that the Democrats haven't changed immigration laws either.
Not just haven't changed them but repeatedly offer cash discounts, member discounts, and one-time deals to incentivize it.
Everyone knows that it's those pesky Republican's fault, even though when the Democrats have the majority they need it never seems to be a priority.
I thought for a moment I was reading an article from the Bee or Onion. This is a joke right?
Well, yes, it's a joke; but on whom?
I told you they'd replace Fiona with a white male.
Not replaced at all. As with our current White House press secretary, the white male appearing to prop them up really is just fortification on an already indisputably righteous crusade.
There are plenty of paths to legal immigration. Migrants just chose not to take them.
There aren't. This isn't true. If you don't want immigrants just say you don't want immigrants. Constant gasligjting with, oh, there are many paths, legal immigration is easy, etc ... is entirely unhelpful.
There are. One million immigrants manage to do it every year.
Congress sets annual quotas for legal immigration. These are quite generous already, but if you want to increase them, make the argument in Congress.
But the fact is: you know that that is going to fail. So instead you are gaslighting people by calling illegal migrants “immigrants” and accusing people who want the law as passed by Congress to be enforced “anti-immigrant”.
I’m an immigrant. Illegals and people like you are assholes who make the lives of immigrants miserable. And you do that because it serves your political agenda.
hw's about they stay home and work toward making their own nation enough less of a SHole they would be content to remain there?
He says ‘strict immigration laws’. Relative to what?
Relative to OBL's Koch vision?
Does Reason LOOK for stupid writers, or are they just drawn to it like flies to a mound of shit?
Kinda ironic that so many of them are white, privileged, or both.
How else can all those humanities majors make a decent living?
Both
Locks on doors leave burglars dependent on crowbars.
Bank vaults leave safe crackers dependent on explosives.
The failure of random people to voluntarily hand over their money leaves muggers dependent on knives and guns.
Ever occur to you that they're not actually entitled to 'migrate' here if we don't want them to?
Ever occur to you that they're not actually entitled to 'migrate' here if we don't want them to?
Of course they are! Everybody's entitled to be here but us!
People are only entitled to what they do not have.
- Progressive Logic Handbook
Specifically, section Catch 22.
The country isn't a house or a safe. You do not own land in Texas, Arizona, or any other border state where they enter. Unless they're actually trying to live on the property you legally bought, it's none of your concern where they move. Worry about your own life and stop obsessing over people born in poverty and crime trying to better their lives. I'd do the same thing as them and so would you.
"trying to better their lives" HOW???
The whole reason there needs to be border controls.
No, they country is not my property. But it is a constitutional republic, in which citizens have the right to decide through Congress what our immigration law is to be, who may and may not immigrate. We have generous immigration quotas. Want to increase those quotas? Pass a law.
MY gummit taking MY ts money and spending/wasting it to try and prevent these border crashers coming in costs ME money no matter where they happen to set their feet. The ONLY Place they are entirled to set their feet is somewhere on the OTHER side of that international boundary line. I decided ti emigrate to Canada some years back, went through the tnire process, was given the pwperwwork, complied with all the requirements and protocol,s them moved there as a permanant resident Ithat means, "immigrant", I did it lafully and crossed the border with their oermission. If I can do that they can do it too. I did NOT simly wander accross their lne and find a place to lve and I CERTAINLY did not become a burden on the folks that live there and pay taxes. I paid taxes, too, up there.
They were smart enough to make a law that if, within the first four years, I think it was, I was there, I EVER became a burden on the government (welfare, etc) because I was not working, they would purchase for me a one way ticket back to the city from which I had emigrated. And escort me onto the plane or train to make sure I left. Fair enough. Why are we not that smart?
Sure, come on in, the water.s fine and so is the welfare, free food, medical care, housing, tramsportation... just come on up, we'll take care of you.
Meanshile we've got millions of anks out of work....
If you didn't realize it before, this site exists to promote open borders. All the rest is just window dressing to keep you coming back.
OBL acolyte .
I know. It's great!
#ImmigrationAboveAll
#OpenTheBordersToHelpCharlesKoch
Hey, that's what freedom means! You're free to have your country invaded by hostile foreign nationals, free to bake gay wedding cakes, and free to have trannies in the lady's room.
And what are you free to do about it? Absolutely nuthin'!
Ain't freedom wonderful?
Dey terk er jerbs.
Spoken like someone who doesn't actually understand economics, why you rely on a cartoon for your talking points.
Spoken like someone who doesnt undertand satire.
Russia invaded Ukraine. Families fleeing violence and poverty by crossing a line to a place that has little of it is not invading anyone.
And you're free to just live your life and not give a shit that people from other countries are coming here to seek a better life like your ancestors did.
I’m an immigrant who came to the US selling a better life.
It’s assholes like you that are destroying that better life and hurting immigrants by advocating lawlessness and illegal behavior.
ALL my ancestors who came here for a better life did so LEGALLY and helped BUILD a better life for those here in this country. MY ancestors heped make America what it has become.... until about the last twenty years or so. And every one of them was fine with more coming in// as long as tney did so legally, and then turned to and worked to supoort their famiiles and grow their communities. NONE of them just walked accross the border and said HERE I AM FEED ME house me, make sure I'm healthy, educte my kids, etc. nd of the hundreds of ancestors I have all came here from somewhere else except for one, and her family had been here for a few nudnred years before the rest got here.
My grandmother got off a boat legally and paid her taxes.
Are you worried that a migrant is going to date your mother?
Whores, General; don't forget whores.
And free weed.
"apprehensions at the Southwest border, a proxy for illegal entry, increased by more than 100 percent"
Is it though? My understanding was that in the Obama administration, the Border patrol was largely not engaged in apprehensions, and Trump changed that. I could swear Reason made this point some ways along the line. Why not use the actual estimated number of illegals in the country, that Homeland Security put out annually until the Biden administration took charge? The answer to that is obvious- it doesn't prove the point.
https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/population-estimates/unauthorized-resident
In any case, this problem is now 100% the problem of Democrats. 2 Years into the Biden administration, with a majority in the house and senate, they have done nothing to alleviate the problem. They have trapped immigrants on their plantation and refuse to do anything that would allow them to leave.
Like any political group, Democrats never want to solve a major issue. The impacts on social leverage and donations might be irrecoverable.
Above posts pretty much say it all.
Idiotic FDA and Customs are destroying baby formula parents are trying to buy abroad.
How many Reason writers have moved out of their homes to give it to illegal aliens? How many have quit their jobs and insisted it be given to an illegal alien? How many have turned their banking accounts over to illegal aliens? Zero, huh? Why haven't they? They are quick to advocate for others to do so. Let's have them do it first to show how it is done.
Diversity is not your strength. It lowers your wages, marginalizes your culture, increases your crime, fills your hospitals, occupies your housing, ruins your schools, consumes your taxes, tightens your laws, restricts your freedoms, endangers your children, and calls you racist.
Even more abstractly, it's only a strength in the face of uncertainty. If you don't know the correct choice or if there is even one choice, diversity is a better guarantee that you choose one or all the right choices. But if you know a choice is right or a choice is wrong, diversity just guarantees you're diverting resources to answers you know aren't right or know to be wrong.
Diversity can be a strength, but it can also be a weakness.
What Democrats fail to really make a case for is why unlimited immigration is a strength rather than a weakness. Republicans make their case for why they think it's a weakness rather than a strength, and even if one disagrees with that case at least it's been made.
Democrats certainly want to say that unlimited immigration is some kind of moral imperative, but all they seem to have are emotional appeals. They don't even try to sell the idea to anyone outside their circle of special interests.
And while Libertarians might have some arguments for why unlimited immigration is a good thing, notably the route they use to arrive at the conclusion requires a whole lot of other changes such as doing away with the welfare state. Good luck with that while Democrats and Republicans are both uninterested in the necessary reforms.
Progressives, whether they admit it or not, seek a global socialist nanny state. Some of them are so far down the ideological rabbit hole that they can't comprehend the need to justify politics or policy.
And while
LlibertariansFIFY.
Trump laid out clear reform and rollbacks across several lines of law and logic and was rejected. The only people who didn't oppose him were (some) Republicans. It's no longer just Democrats and Republicans that are disinterested in not being abjectly retarded about immigration. See: https://reason.com/2022/05/24/strict-u-s-immigration-laws-leave-migrants-dependent-on-human-smugglers
No, I meant the actual Libertarian party rather than ideological libertarians. The party can't seem to decide how any of that is going to work, and especially candidates like Gay Jay can't seem to articulate underlying problems and just peck along the surface.
Diversity, grounded in facts and objective reason, can be a great thing. Considering lots of medical options to cure a disease or lots of engineering options to design a bridge can lead to better outcomes. Diversity, driven by human delusion and political agenda, is almost always destructive. Witch doctor chanting and affirmative action design contracts most often lead to disaster.
I would argue that there's only one correct way to build a bridge: continuously from one end to the other and the question of "What is the best way to build a bridge?" is less factual/objective with diverse approaches and answers.
To be fair, I would say the democrats have had much more to do with ruining the schools than a few criminal border crossers.
Diversity leads to perversity.
Pornhub's new motto
Maybe it's time to sent special operations forces to Mexico to deal with cartels.
I don't think we'd stand a chance
Today, establishing a new work visa with sufficient annual allocations, expanding the H-2B visa category, and negotiating bilateral agreements between the United States and Mexico, as well as countries in Central America, would increase legal avenues to work and eliminate the need for individuals to pay smugglers.
Here is a list of available non-immigrant visas:
https://visaguide.world/us-visa/nonimmigrant/
Here is a list of immigrant visas:
https://visaguide.world/us-visa/immigrant/
That's a total of 185 different types of visas available to enter the US. Just how many fucking types of visas do we need?
All of them. MOAR Visas!
All those technical visas were a massive drain on high tech jobs through the '00s. Wage increases stalled for over a decade and Americans who paid excessively for an education were passed over for folks who would never ask for a raise because they don't want to lose their visa and get shipped back to Bangalore.
Huge swaths of construction industry has descended to minimum wage labor rather than middle class tradesmen because you can go pick up 10 people at the home depot and pay cash rather than having to deal with all the taxes and employment regulations. And nobody complains because they don't want to go back to a poor farm town in Oaxaca. It's worth the tradeoff for quality and speed of work they're so much cheaper, and contractors will say they have to do it because all of their competitors are doing it.
That's what Koch and Reason are after, people who will never ask for a raise or complain about poor working conditions.
Common sense and humane suggestions to combat illegal immigration from countries south of our border. Sounds like a win/win. It’s too bad that so many of the comments reflect nothing but hostility towards these suggestions and to our southern neighbors in desperate situations.
How many have you taken in?
how many border patrol agents have you taken in?
Lots of people, globally, are in desperate situations. Should "Stop Being the World Police" USA now become the world's welfare provider?
It's not OUR job to fix every shithole on Earth.
Expansion of the H-2B work visa means immigrants would work in jobs where we have labor shortages and they’d pay taxes, so it’s not welfare. What is wrong with this suggested solution to reduce human smuggling?
We have "labor shortages" because employers wish to pay below-market wages.
Either the market is supported or it is not. The market does not mean "Well, employers win every time". Sometimes, they have to do more to attract workers and many do not wish to do so. Tough shit for them.
Exactly this.
Labor is a marketplace. It will find a balance. If you want a better employee, you can make the job more attractive to that employee. Your competitors looking for employees have the same problems...
As long as the government doesn't put their thumb on the scale and start importing cheap labor every time employees finally get enough leverage to be worth a greater wage.
In a dynamic free market we do not have "shortages". We have a balance between supply and demand at a given price point. Business owners can pay higher wages to attract more/better workers if they have customers willing to pay commensurate higher prices. Customers who want more can decide to pay more, or go without. There is no "right" wage or price. Anyone who believes that is dangerously delusional, and probably a socialist.
>delusional, and probably a socialist.
You're repeating yourself here.
'Labor shortages' with our labor force participation is perhaps a misnomer.
What we need, in present-day USA, are tens of millions of unskilled and illiterate members of the world's poor. Or we would, if this were a place where we built giant pyramids using thousands of laborers. Or if we still relied primarily on non-mechanized agriculture.
they’d pay taxes, so it’s not welfare
I don't think you know what the word 'welfare' means.
H-2B workers are not immigrants; they are expected to leave the country. But, of course, they will have an anchor baby and stay. So you are playing a shell game when you talk about H-2B
Furthermore, if you fill labor shortages by importing low skill third world labor, you’re making America poorer: the more of s country’s workforce is low skill, the poorer that country is.
On top of that, given the US tax system, most of those workers will never make a net positive contribution in taxes. Rather, they will represent a net drain on federal, state, and local budgets.
No, we should let in people and not give them any welfare.
When the 2nd materializes then we'll talk about the 1st.
not my problem. we should only allow those into our country if they benefit our country, they are not criminals, are educated, etc.
you're right. It's not your problem who comes in here. That's why you should shut up and mind your own business if someone wants to come here from another country and build a life for themselves. It's literally not your concern and you don't have the authority to dictate where people can move.
actually it is my concern. i'm the citizen not the illegal alien. why do they have to "build a life for themselves" here? there are 194 other choices. just because someone wants to come live here does not give them the right to do so. we need to be very selective about who gets in.
Who the fuck are you to dictate where someone gets to choose to live? Do you actually think that because you happened to be born on dirt inside our borders that you can dictate to others who didn’t have your geographic luck where they can live? What a fucking asshole!
lmao.... "You won't let us invade your turf. What a fucking asshole!".
What are you 10?
Hey moron you only own your house that you bought. The country is NOT YOUR turf. You literally have no right, legal, ethical, or otherwise, to claim all of the land in America as your own. You sound like a fucking communist. Get a grip with your collectivist “our house” bullshit.
Land with a National Government is a collectivist "house" (i.e. land) dumb*ss... A Governed Nation isn't equal to communism... Good grief; the B.S. you'll pull to get your way are astounding.
I’m a US Citizen with the right to elect representatives to Congress, representatives who set immigration policy.
Who the fuck are you to dictate immigration policy to American citizens, overriding Congress and the Constitution?
"just because someone wants to come 'eat someone else's greener-grass' does not give them the right to do so"
It must be *EARNED*...
Earned? Life is simple. If a human being was born in a terrible place and they want to go to a better place, they should be allowed to move there rather easily. That goes for foreigners and people born domestically here in poor towns that want to move to richer ones. You guys should not have a say in what other people want to do if they’re not committing any violent crimes.
Someone explain this to me. Some schmuck in day Iowa thinks he’s being threatened by a guy from Mexico entering Texas looking for a job. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
Hm, because the Iowa schmuck's taxes are diverted from benefiting Americans and instead pay for noncitizens who illegally entered his country can bypass the legal system and directly begin taking more federally taxed funds from other social programs crafted to benefit Americans?
Texas schmuck, having both lost his job and having a diminished social welfare net, is really pissed.
Well, that’s not how the world works. Sorry.
And as an immigrant myself, let me tell you that it is ignorant assholes like you who make the lives of immigrants so miserable.
Oh okay, gotcha. So you think because you were lucky enough to go through the sacred “process” of becoming legal without having your life risked by gang violence or poverty forced by socialism or other corruption, you can dictate to others how they should enter the country too. If you were born in El Salvador would you try to make a run for it and get asylum here or would you say “kids, I’m sorry. We should stay until we get processed into the country 10 years from now.” ?
^YEP; See. You don't want to *EARN* citizenship.. You want to TAKE it. And once you're here you'll probably want to TAKE everything else for YOUR "not lucky-enough claims...
Your mentality is EXACTLY why Mexico sucks. Take, Take, Take but never ever ever *EARN* what your heart desires. If you want to be a US Citizens go through the CORRECT way of getting there.
I'm not "dictating" anything to anybody. US law allows for a generous level of immigration. When I immigrated, I complied with that law, and I expect that law to be applied and enforced against others as well.
If you don't like the law, you are welcome to change it. But for some reason, you think you can dictate to the American people what US immigration law should be, against the laws passed by Congress.
I came from a pretty shitty place myself, a place I never wanted to have to go back to. That's why I worked hard and was extremely careful not to violate immigration law. I expect all other immigrants to do the same thing or feel the full force of the law.
Yes, as a US citizen, it is my concern who comes here. Not only is it my concern, I have the right and authority to determine this through Congress.
No, it’s not your concern who comes here. It’s only your concern who comes into your property. The country doesn’t exist as a home for you to decide who gets to come in or not. There’s nothing unique or special about you that gives you that kind of authority. You aren’t God.
Are you speaking morally or legally?
Legally, it’s a simple fact that immigration is regulated and limited by Congress, and in get to vote for Congress. So legally, you’re obviously wrong.
Morally, as an immigrant myself, I’m not going to debate this with you other than to express my deep contempt for you. You really are an evil, self righteous prick.
I thought liberals were the collectivists. You guys are indistinguishable from Marx.
There is no “you guys” here; the comment section has a wide variety of views and ideologies.
However, i have to correct you: your open borders views are Marxist.
It’s communist countries who have walls and strict laws against movement of people.
For the most part.
It's communist countries that grants it's people whatever they want by ENSLAVING or INVADING other people's claims....
Foreign Nations nor it's people have any claim to the USA. You're essentially trying to flop the principles of property ownership on it's head.
Communist countries have walls for the same reason prisons have: to keep people from running away.
Capitalist countries have walls for the same reason mansions and jewelry stores do: to keep people from entering illegally and stealing.
Keeping people in vs keeping people out is a fundamental distinction when it comes to migration. It violates international human rights to keep people in, it is perfectly legitimate to keep people out.
Silly me. I also need to adjust my humane common sense for things like property theft and assault so that we can reduce the people "forced" into illegal activities. Perhaps you could also relax your feelings about rape.
Strict is an odd word choice to describe the most generous immigration system in the world.
Just because our system is more generous than other systems doesn't make it easy or any of the restrictions justified. We also have laxer gun laws than other nations, but the ones in existence infringe on gun owners rights anyway. Get it?
We don’t have to justify our immigration restrictions to anyone, legally or morally.
Here's a good read for those who still have an open mind... Cato…
https://www.cato.org/policy-report/januaryfebruary-2019/myths-facts-immigration-policy
https://www.cato.org/blog/crime-along-mexican-border-lower-rest-country
Search until the cows come home and you fill find, '...no data exist to determine the extent of migrant smuggling globally (IOM, 2016b)...' so the entire article is based on fantasy, fiction or just a lie or something that must be taught in 'libertarian school'. A million illegals have walked in under Biden to join the 20 million illegals who have walked in or entered through our 'ports of entry' and over stayed and became illegal immigrants. Smuggling is to illegal immigration what dandruff is to life expectancy.
...and that doesn't count all of those taken in from "humanitarian" disasters on a temporary basis (think Haitians, Salvadorians etc.)
who never leave.
"Human smugglers at Mexican border won’t be sought after if migrants can come to the U.S. legally."
Bad news, Stuart. A quick web search shows that there already are legal ways to enter the USA. Maybe you could get a better research team?
Or any research team. Or do any research at all.
No need, though. I think they have 100 of these stories banked. We complained about Fiona being one note, so they got someone else to add the byline here.
Stuart, can you explain how these poor downtrodden criminals who seek illegal entry to the USA can pay more than 5 or 10 times my social security check to a "smuggler"?
I mean, I retired so a legal immigrant could have a job, what more do you want?
The same way our ancestors saved enough money to board a ship to come here, dummy.
You mean sold themselves into slavery?
We can always count on at least some faction of the open borders crowd to endorse the same arguments.
What the hell are you talking about you closed borders communist jackass? Our ancestors saved up enough money to get in a ship and come to America where they were able to start their lives over with more opportunity they had in their native country. Are you this dumb?
Yes, and today, passage alone is legally insufficient. What’s your point?
I think Stuart has it backwards. It's the perception that the laws will not be enforced that makes human smugglers desirable.
Open borders hasn’t benefited the EU countries that were lax in allowing refugees or immigrants. While immigration can be beneficial to our work force, Congress is hurtful. They maintain a system that hurst people. They continue a system that encourages illegality and at the same time never fully support our sovereignty.
Congress sucks big time on this issue. Gee? What could their perverse agenda be. Stooy! Write about that.
the author is certainly a brandon lover. he is very confused indeed. our border policy & laws should have zero to do with smuggling and everything to with securing the border to prevent all illegal entry. the only acceptable number for illegal entry is zero. we had the most secure border in many, many decades under trump. brandon believes in an open border with entry for anyone at any time, but that is a huge national security problem. a nation without a secure border is not a nation. we need a strong wall and a strong security force at the border. brandon's idea that every asylum seeker in the world should be allowed into the us is ridiculous. i would bet that 90% of those claiming to be an asylum seeker are not.
Are you stupid? Cartels thrive on prohibitions. If drugs were legal, they wouldn't exist. If immigration was more legal, they wouldn't exist either. Why would a cartel member need to smuggle in a desperate migrant if they could just cross the line and be processed in a few hours? God forbid we ever had a system that efficient. Oh wait, we did. Ellis Island. Bring those days back.
if we closed the border the problem would not exist. the focus should be on enforcing the border security. if we stop the illegals then the smuggling problem is irrelevant. again, there should be zero illegal immigration. zero.
Yes let’s destroy the economy by closing the border so we can keep people that contribute to the economy. Brilliant!
If low skill workers helped economies prosper, then the countries these people are coming from would be prosperous.
The fact is that importing low skill workers impoverishes the US
comparative advantage, economic theory, first developed by 19th-century British economist David Ricardo, that attributed the cause and benefits of international trade to the differences in the relative opportunity costs (costs in terms of other goods given up) of producing the same commodities among countries.
I'm glad you brought that up.
Our comparative advantage right now is a skilled, educated workforce. That's why Americans are pretty wealthy.
If you import large numbers of low skill workers, then our comparative advantage will shift to performing low skill, low value work, making Americans poorer by all the measures of wealth and human development we usually apply.
Therefore, yes, because of comparative advantage, we should not open our borders to low skill workers. Rather, we should leave the manufacture of low value goods to countries with lots of low skill workers, like El Salvador.
I’m happy to have open borders just as soon as we eliminate the welfare state, like back then.
No halfway measures.
From the American Thinker:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/05/angry_migrants_protest_for_their_right_to_be_in_the_us_illegally.html
You just can't make this shit up.
Maybe we can't, but most delusional progressives and leftists can.
Did any of you dopey nativists even read the article? Stuart's argument is that if we made it easier to come in legally, human smugglers and other bad actors wouldn't have any incentive to smuggle in people because the migrants wouldn't need their help. This is true for all victimless behavioral crimes. Look at the war on drugs. You guys come onto a libertarian website and promote a massive expansion of government to restrict movement and centrally plan labor flow in the economy. Are you kidding me?
Also, the country isn't a freaking house. Stop asking how many people pro immigration folks would take in. You do not own the United States of America. You own your house because you legally purchased it. The country has plenty of land and plenty of landowners looking to rent to prospective migrants. Mind your own f'n business and worry about your own lives. Oh, also, moving from one place to another should never be a privilege, and you aren't special because you happened to be born on American soil. You're just lucky. Pieces of sh*t.
Did you dopey nativists ever consider we could just allow in immigrants and leave them to fend for themselves? They don't have to be a burden. It's not their fault a welfare state exists. And if they were given welfare, it would make the welfare state unsustainable and just lead to it collapsing, which would be a good thing. But you nativist dorks want your entitlements but only for your "unique" native born Americans. F'n snowflakes.
ok, given that law enforcement is an expense, and arguably, when provided on the behalf of an illegal alien, could be construed as a form of welfare.
So I'll make you a deal. I'll go along with open borders as soon as a law is passed stating that anyone in the country illegally is not protected by US law.
Then let the legitimate citizenry "vote" on each immigrant, one at a time.
Do you also think we should ban guns until we have a solution to the mass shooting epidemic?
Banning guns is ineffective at stopping mass shootings
Immigration enforcement is effective.
So nations and borders are just figments of nationalist imaginations? Good to know.
Uh, I'm not saying to get rid of borders. I'm saying that crossing the southern border should be as easy as crossing your town or state's border. Really, why is it any different? Only because you don't like the folks coming in. Have you ever considered that when someone crosses a border (be it a country's, state's, or town's), the laws of the jurisdiction don't change? Borders exist to respect sovereignty. When I left for work this morning, I didn't "invade" the city I work in or change its laws by my mere presence. How stupid can people be?
BSalz3586, thanks for fighting the pro-individual-freedom fight here, against the Hurrr-Derrr-Grrrr nativists. I've kinda given up on this fight for a while... Fossilized minds never change!
HERE is how bad the nativists and the border-guard folks can get!
https://www.theonion.com/ice-agents-hurl-pregnant-immigrant-over-mexican-border-1822307567
ICE Agents Hurl Pregnant Immigrant Over Mexican Border To Prevent Birth On U.S. Soil
Haha, while this is just a parody, government agents at the border rape girls and use excessive force on migrants all the time. I bet these people love law enforcement too. Real "libertarians".
I love how you completely ignore who pays for all this.
Is my money no longer my property? When it is taken from me in taxes and put into a collective social net, along with taxes from all other citizens, what is the justification for then spending that money on noncitizens who have not contributed? We call that foreign aid, and Congress votes on it.
In the famous words of Obama, "you didn't build that."
Grandmother was fresh off the boat, legally. Paid into the system and recieved due benefits.
Fuck you lazy line jumpers.
So let me see if I have this right:
There is a seemingly endless amount of money for people to pay smugglers, but those poor people don't have anything in their own country?
Do you even economics?
This is incredibly dumb. Yes, poor people are able to save up to pay smugglers so they can leave for a better life. Our ancestors did the same thing. Why is it so unfathomable to you that poor people can save up for an expensive move that will change their life forever? Do YOU even economics? Dummy
So where is all the fucking money coming from?
More importantly, if there is that much, why not spend it fixing their own homes?
They have shit jobs where they live and save enough from it to give to human smugglers to help them get over the border. Having enough $$$ to use for a life-changing mission doesn’t mean they are living comfortably. Do you really not know anything about how the world works or are you just being obtuse?
Let me put in terms you might relate to. If you were born in El Salvador and were raising a family near gangs that groomed girls and forced boys into the gang by gunpoint, would you put aside X amount of your salary for awhile so that you could save up and escape somewhere else?
No. I'd die for my country.
Your country is just where you happened to be born. If you find another country that is safer and has more civil liberties you should go there. You can’t change your race or gender (well I guess you can change your gender now) but you can change what country you live in based on your needs.
If America fell to communism, would you definitely fight for America? If so, would you judge those who aren’t really fighter types and choose to go to another country for the security?
would you judge those who aren’t really fighter types and choose to go to another country for the security?
Uh. YES!! because they're running away from a problem they either allowed to happen or pushed for it....
It's called taking responsibility for one's self.
That’s insane. All of our ancestors left an inferior situation overseas to come here because America had more to offer. Our ancestors didn’t enter politics and take on the monarchies and whatever else were the ruling elites at the time. This stupid argument was made against Jews fleeing Nazi persecution too. Just resist Hitler! It’s not that easy.
"All of our ancestors left an inferior situation overseas to come here because America had more to offer." ---- BULLSH*T!!!!!!
The new land granted them the freedom to CREATE more to offer.
You have ZERO concept of EARNING anything... Just want to demand everything and everyone adhere to what you want.
Don’t you assholes also say “love it or leave it” to Americans who aren’t happy here? Not the Central Americans who leave places they’d rent happy in though. They have to stay. LOL
Humorously; You don't love the USA at all. Seems you'd just like to invade it and milk it dry.
What’s with your belief people need to stay where they came from? Don’t you try to move into nice neighborhoods?
That's irrelevant. Communities get to choose their own members. It's one of, if not the only, collective rights that libertarians recognize.
Nope that’s not a libertarian belief. Libertarians believe freedom of movement is a human right. They also believe that one has the freedom to move out of their community if they don’t like who is coming in. Human beings don’t have the right to reject someone from buying or renting property they don’t own. That sounds like collectivist communist garbage.
So free association stops after the individual level?
Alright then, I'll pencil you down for forced association for charities, churches, and corporations. Muted.
Where in America do you live? When someone applies to live on your street do you get a form asking whether or not you approve their application? Lol
Humorously yes... From voluntary Home Associations to City Regulation.. Everyone decides MASSIVELY (probably too much) what kind of neighbor they're willing to take in.
It’s illegal to deny someone entrance to a community based on an immutable characteristic. Red lining was prohibited a long time ago,
Too bad USA 'legal' doesn't apply to ILLEGAL immigrants huh... ? 🙂
That doesn’t apply to immigration law. We can discriminate any way we want for the purposes of immigration.
But that’s irrelevant anyway, since we’re simply talking about keeping illegal migrants out of the US.
Guys stop being retarded. You try to live in nice areas. So are the migrants. Everyone is entitled to a decent life. Stop getting in their way, sickos.
"Everyone is entitled to a decent life."
^THAT is why we don't need more immigrants...
******ENTITLED****** to someone else's greener-grass.....
No, immigrants who arrive here complement native borns. They don’t take away anything.
And yet every F'en year; Southern Visa workers end up breaking into houses and stealing right before running back to Mexico and there's not a d*mn bit of Justice served BECAUSE of Too Open National boundaries...
There are some excellent southern immigrants too; that add amazing value to society - thus immigration needs to be STRICT not OPEN (for Justice to even happen)... But hey; If Mexico is for Sale (Open Borders) maybe the citizens of Mexico can just vote to GIVE Mexico to the USA... Maybe that's what you should be lobbying for.
Imagine a group of men get off a plane at, say, JFK airport at the international arrivals gates. They don't have luggage except the occasional backpack. They linger back from the rest of the crowd as they approach Customs gates.
All at once, they make a break for it, scatter, and push aside the Customs agents and TSA flunkies. Hitting as many separate gates as they can to make it harder to coral all of them, the ones that made it through run through the terminal looking for an exit.
What is likely to happen to them?
The men who were caught or who think they might be caught immediately surrender and claim asylum. What happens then?
Why should a group of men overwhelming Border Control at the river be treated differently?
You’re assuming I think it should be illegal to get off a plane and enter America without being molested by a government agent.
Looking for a message board with people that actually oppose centrally planned government disasters like immigration regulations. Do you guys have any suggestions where I can go to find like minded people who don’t lick the boot of government because they’re scared of people from Central America? Thanks
Sure, sure; Because anyone who thinks it's a National Governments job to prevent the Nation from being invaded is just a "boot-licker of government"...... /s
Yes. People who think the government should detain people committing a victimless crime (crossing a line) are boot lickers. This isn’t fucking “Minority Report”. If a migrant commits a real crime he’ll be dealt with. He shouldn’t be apprehended simply for coming in here. It’s a misdemeanor anyway even though you people think it’s the worst sin imaginable. It’s equivalent to underage drinking, which we’ve all done, hypocrites.
All USA citizens are VICTIMS of National Invasion...
Here's you, "Good grief; I don't know why Ukraine is such boot-lickers of government. All Russia is doing is crossing a line."
I agree: illegal migrants shouldn’t be treated as criminals or punished. Instead, they should simply be removed from the country immediately.
Their employers, on the other hand, should face criminal charges.
Export fanatical prohibitionist violence and wherever it lands the economy withers. Lysander Spooner made this obvious in "Vices are Not Crimes." Doing away with borders is just as foolish when murdering gangs armed by our taxes and laws create poverty by banning production and trade. The drug law problem owns a subtle propaganda machine that shifts blame and attention elsewhere.
You should be happy on a typical young socialist or communist site; those people believe in unrestrained personal choices and the fictitiousness of borders. They don’t call it the “socialist international” for nothing.
There is an anarcho-fascist commune calling itself the Mises Caucus. It urges libertarians to turn a blind eye to men with guns coercing pregnant girls or shooting teens over plant leaves. Instead the focus is on adding planks legalizing extrajudicial murder and importing saracen berzerkers and illiterate starvelings. In 2020 alone their anarchist Trojan pony candidate cost us 8 years' gains and ballot access in roughly half of all States. Sockpuppets flock to their banner.
Over 22,000 apprehended since Friday as a result of our strict immigration laws.
News in Brazil is police SWAT raids leave a trail of innocents dead and mutilated by government gunfire--exactly the thing Biden wrote into both versions of his bipartisan antidrug prohibition laws before and after the Crash of 1987. Before the Reagan-Biden-Reich, almost no Americans died of drug overdoses--not compared to now. Nor did we have entire pauper populations fleeing "our" puppet regimes in search of a chance to pull weeds or flip burgers.
I'd wager Stuart knows nearly nothing of the languages, nor of American-dictated policies that make Latin America into Balkanized caudillo dictatorships people flee. Your taxes pay hordes of thugs with guns and hidden persuaders with cash to corrupt elections. It is why the Philippine Islands are poor and saddled with dictators like Duterte and Marcos. Laws that make production and trade a crime wreck the economy. Americans proved that in 1907, 1929 and 2008. Exporting fascism breeds collapse into communism and fleeing refugees.
Reason.com sure do be some censorous faggot monkeys.
It's my understanding that Congress is charged with making laws. Are they comatose? Does this not fit their narrative? Set up a simple system for processing prospective immigrants at the southern border. Make it an 'Ellis Island South'.
Hey, if we decriminalize theft and burglary, both stores and individuals will save a fortunate on locks and security systems! And we'll avoid the violence of robberies and bank heists by simply letting the criminals walk out the door with whatever they want. Let's just get rid of all boundaries - national, state, gated complexes, private homes, stores. Everyone just take whatever they need anytime and no one try to stop them. It will bring about a new peace in our society.
You know what ELSE discourages illegal immigration?
Not handing out benefits hand over fist. It's also cheaper.
Perhaps we should outlaw locked doors---Too many burglars are getting injured by shards of broken glass when they break-in through windows.