AOC Defends Due Process as Colleagues Greenlight Asset Seizure Bill
Plus: Homeland Security's new Disinformation Governance Board, the FDA's menthol ban, and more...

The bill asks Biden "to violate the 4th Amendment," says congresswoman. An unlikely coalition of congressional Democrats and Republicans joined together in opposing the "Asset Seizure for Ukraine Reconstruction Act."
But it wasn't enough to stop the House from passing the bill, which authorizes the president to "seize assets belonging to a foreign person whose wealth is derived in part through political support for or corruption linked to Russian President Vladimir Putin," per a congressional summary. Funds from the assets may only be used to supply weapons to Ukraine, support post-conflict reconstruction there, or provide humanitarian aid to Ukrainians and Russians.
The bill does not suggest that those whose assets are seized must be linked to—let alone convicted of—any crime. Rather, it states that the Biden administration shall "determine the constitutional mechanisms through which the President can take steps to seize and confiscate assets under the jurisdiction of the United States" of any foreign person on whom the president has imposed sanctions due to their links to Putin's regime.
Nor does it require that sanctions and asset seizure be linked to corruption; political "support for" the Putin administration is enough.
Of course, in a country like Russia, where dissidence can be punished gravely, support may be a matter of (economic and sometimes literal) survival. Is it really fair for the U.S. to punish people for this?
Alas, a lot of legislators think so. The Asset Seizure for Ukraine Reconstruction Act passed the House by a vote of 417–8 on Thursday.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) was one of just eight "no" votes on the measure.
"This vote asked President Biden to violate the 4th Amendment, seize private property, and determine where it would go – all without due process," AOC said in a statement. "This sets a risky new precedent in the event of future Presidents who may seek to abuse that expansion of power, especially with so many of our communities already fighting civil asset forfeiture."
It's a very valid concern—and the kind all too rare among lawmakers and among political partisans more broadly.
It often seems like libertarians are the only ones warning against expansions of power that will last long beyond whatever particular circumstances spawned them. So it's nice to see Ocasio-Cortez—someone whom libertarians seldom agree with—make this point and act accordingly.
AOC was joined in her opposition to the bill by a motley crew of representatives representing the right and left poles of Congress. Other "no" votes from the left included AOC's fellow "squad" members Reps. Rashida Tlaib (D–Mich.) and Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.), as well as Rep. Cori Bush (D–Mo.).
The four "no" votes from the right came from Reps. Madison Cawthorn (R–N.C.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (R–Ga.), Thomas Massie (R–Ky.), and Chip Roy (R–Texas).
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"Never bring something to a fight you don't want shoved up your ass later." David C. Lowery, founder of bands Camper Van Beethoven and Cracker, has some words of wisdom for folks supporting the Biden administration's creepy new disinformation board, which will be a part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
"One of my older cousins gave me some good advice when I was twelve: never bring something to a fight you don't want shoved up your ass later," tweeted Lowery yesterday. "When the DHS is in the hands of the Republicans this gets turned on dems who currently think this is a good idea. Just saying."
Okay you're a punk rocker in 1982 and the Department of Homeland Security under President Reagan sets up a Disinformation Governance Board to combat disinformation. You're reaction is
— David C Lowery (@davidclowery) April 28, 2022
The new Disinformation Governance Board will be headed by Nina Jankowicz, author of How to Lose the Information War and How to Be a Woman Online. Jankowicz claimed on Twitter that "one of the key reasons the Board was established, is to maintain the Dept's commitment to protecting free speech, privacy, civil rights, & civil liberties." But just last week, she was quoted in NPR warning against "free speech absolutists."
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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has formally proposed a ban on menthol cigarette and flavored cigar sales. Supporters of the ban have portrayed it as "a racial justice issue."
"They are right about that, but not in the way they mean," writes Reason's Jacob Sullum:
What they mean is that 85 percent of black smokers prefer menthol cigarettes, compared to 30 percent of white smokers.…As the menthol ban's proponents see it, even the choice to start smoking is not really a choice, because consumers—in this case, black consumers in particular—are no match for Big Tobacco's persuasive wiles. Gardiner cites the industry's history of "predatory marketing," while the anti-smoking Truth Initiative condemns "relentless profiling of Black Americans and vulnerable populations" by brands like Kool, Salem, and Newport.
That's one way of looking at it. Here is another: The federal government is targeting the kind of cigarettes that black smokers overwhelmingly prefer, precisely because black smokers overwhelmingly prefer them. The FDA also worries that menthol cigarettes appeal to teenagers, another "vulnerable population." Public health officials are thus treating African Americans like children in the sense that they don't trust either to make their own decisions….
In addition to condescending assumptions, the FDA is displaying remarkable shortsightedness regarding the practical impact of its policy on the community it supposedly is trying to help. "Policies that amount to prohibition for adults will have serious racial justice implications," the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the Drug Policy Alliance, the Sentencing Project, and 24 other organizations warned in an April 2021 letter to Becerra and Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock. "Such a ban will trigger criminal penalties, which will disproportionately impact people of color, as well as prioritize criminalization over public health and harm reduction. A ban will also lead to unconstitutional policing and other negative interactions with local law enforcement."
The FDA also claims that menthols are more addictive than nonmenthol cigarettes. "But that's hard to square with the existing data," points out Reason Foundation's Guy Bentley.
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The bill asks Biden "to violate the 4th Amendment," says congresswoman.
You'll never guess which congresswoman went fascist!
Number 3 will shock you!
Any foods I should stop eating right now?
Dog crap, o wait that was sqrls blog
Dog crap isn't good for eating! It is, however, good for smoking! Especially Labrador... Is some REALLY good shit!
Cheech and Chong, Labrador shit ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhzgY-EadHA
Ant foods I should start eating every night before I go to bed?
Dog crap, oh wait that was sqrls blog
I hear it helps you lose weight. Eating crap everyday. Find me one fat person you know who also eats crap consistently.
It’s pre digested!
4th.... and the entire rest of the thing.
I really don't see "steal stuff from around the world" among the enumerated powers.
Like Obama said, the Constitution is “ a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf." He believes—and he's right—that changing this is the way to bring about "redistributive change."
"This vote asked President Biden to violate the 4th Amendment, seize private property, and determine where it would go – all without due process," AOC said in a statement. "This sets a risky new precedent in the event of future Presidents who may seek to abuse that expansion of power, especially with so many of our communities already fighting civil asset forfeiture."
Great, AOC! Now do Socialized Medicine, Universal Basic Income, Reparations, Free College, Free Housing, Free Shit, etc., ad nauseum.
You missed her key metric (or rhetoric). How does a policy impact the down-trodden? By that measure, she is all for everything on your list.
I wonder what's the real reason she voted against it.
she's clearly a Putin stooge
The commie? (There are only 2 possible forms of socialism)
"This vote asked President Biden to violate the 4th Amendment, seize private property, and determine where it would go – all without due process,"
So the fourth applies to Russians, but not Americans?
And people try to say the left is not fascist.
I actually agree worh aoc here. But I also agree the us still has an asset forfeiture problem.
Something about a broken clock? A really dumb, annoying broken clock?
With crazy eyes who affects a Hillary "I ain't in no ways tired" accent when pandering.
You also agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene here too, but ewwwww Republicans! NO WAY!
She just left wants to date AOC.
Could anyone have imagined that 3 members of the "squad" and MTG would ever make up half the contingent on a House vote that actually opposed an unconstitutional bill?
They're controlled opposition so yes I can imagine that.
Has she commented on asset forfeiture in the US or other big 4th amendment issues? It's possible she's being consistent here. It's hard to be wrong about everything all the time.
She has.
https://www.theblaze.com/shows/pat-gray-unleashed/watch-aoc-says-civil-asset-forfeiture-disproportionately-affects-low-income-people-and-people-of-color
The answer is clear, crank it up for white people... then equity!
How does she feel about civil forfeiture when it comes to "reparations"
Taxes are not theft only forfeiture is theft. Try to keep it straight.
So the fourth applies to Russians, but not Americans?
So, if there were a sum of money held by an American somewhere that was paid at a cost to the Ukraine that they legally shouldn't have had to incur, would that constitute corruption supporting Vladimir? Asking for the Big Guy.
"Never bring something to a fight you don't want shoved up your ass later." Pretty good.
> So the fourth applies to Russians, but not Americans?
The Fourth Amendment starts, "The right of the people...". That's not just citizens, that's not just 'Muricans, that's not just those on your tribe. That's anyone residing within the jurisdiction of Congress.
It means the government needs due process before it can go around seizing the property of anyone. Doesn't matter if they're tourists from Japan, farm workers from Mexico, diplomats from Australia, permanent residents with greencards from Finland, or even Russians.
It means Russian "oligarch" property in the United States cannot be seized except by due process and a warrant based probable cause of a crime.
A bill saying the Federal government can just go take stuff from an "oligarch" is not Constitutional.
Just because the government wipes its ass with the Constitution doesn't mean it's right. The Fourth Amendment is still there, and you can't be going around whining about the First and Second at the same time you plant a steamer on the Fourth because you don't like Russians.
So you think our constitution applies globally. I see...
I'm pretty sure he didn't say that. Just that it applies to anyone under US jurisdiction.
And of course the constitution applies globally to the US government's actions.
This action is for taking foreign assets.
Taking them where? If it happens in the US, at least, I would say the 4th should apply.
No, he said "within the jurisdiction of congress". The only dispute here is does "the people" nominally refer to resident non-citizens? I think most libertarians agree it would.
Just because you're carrying a green card doesn't mean you don't have a right to a jury trial or that you don't enjoy 5th amendment rights if you're arrested, or you don't enjoy the first amendment. IN fact, I just looked it up and was surprised to see that even an alien is not prohibited from purchasing a firearm in the US unless they have a 'non-immigrant visa' so there are SOME limitations to that.
Where things get sticky is the things that aren't rights, but Democrats want them to be. I don't think I have to enumerate them here for people to know what I'm talking about.
Where things get sticky is the things that aren't rights, but Democrats want them to be.
^
The Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights enumerate human rights, not "privileges for American citizens."
That's what justified the Revolution. They weren't American citizens until there was a USA, but they had the rights anyway, because all humans have those rights (i.e. the negative ones, not the ones where you have a "right" to the products of someone else's labor).
Correct. I have a friend who moved here from Sweden, and got heavily into guns, bought several guns, regularly went off to the shooting ranges, and even set up his own reloading station in his tiny apartment. He went in head first!
And wasn't a citizen at the time. It was all very legal, even in the state of California (yes, we have gun ranges, duh). The First Amendment applies to non-citizens.
The Fourth Amendment starts, "The right of the people...". That's not just citizens, that's not just 'Muricans, that's not just those on your tribe. That's anyone residing within the jurisdiction of Congress.
Uh, sorta. See "We the People of the United States," and "Congress shall make no law" that precedes "The right of the people..." And if you want to parse further, there's plenty of evidence that foreign nationals, felons, and indigenous people are definitively, distinct from 'the people' don't have an unfettered right to due process... or, varyingly, 3/5th of a right to it. Congress can declare war pretty much anywhere so where, exactly, is outside Congress' jurisdiction?
That's not to say the government has an unfettered right to go violating the 4th against anyone. Just that it's far more nuanced than "the right of the people under Congress' jurisdiction = humans".
He didn't even make it past the first seven words.
Surely you are aware that the 3/5ths thing was only about Congressional apportionment, and the 3/5ths part was the side of righteousness in that argument.
Though the people it referred to certainly did not receive due process rights. Or any others, really.
But more to the point, the Constitution doesn't have to apply globally. It applies to Congress and defines the limits of their authority. The only delegated power I can think of that would apply is the issuance of Letters of Marque and Reprisal. I can only presume they did not go that route.
I think the Constitution is a definition of the powers that the government possesses. This could fall under "Letters of Marque and Reprisal", but I'm not sure we want to claim that particular thing. I think that formally declaring that would probably be an escalation.
As bad an idea as it would be to bring back Letters of Marque, how cool would it be to be put "Pirate" (technically "Privateer" I guess, but still...) on the occupation line of your next 1040?
I'd have to imagine that being an authorized US Privateer would at least come with some expeditious handling of the ATF paperwork needed to own functional automatic weapons, and maybe even some kind of allowance for ownership of certain kinds of heavier military hardware...
Now do the Biden Ministry of Truth. Which will be aimed at American Citizens.
Now do the Biden Ministry of Truth.
Could not be a more clear violation of the First Amendment.
Yeah but LyingJeffy says we shouldn't freak out it may not be that bad and Joe Friday says its no big deal because it has no enforcement powers.
it has no enforcement powers
Doesn't need any. I fully anticipate veiled threats to review someone's anti-trust status if they can't manage their disinformation problem, possibly even have their broadcasting license examined. Because Russia. And Child Sex Trafficking.
I fully expect many of us will be labeled insurrectionist, arrested at 3 am by the FBI (after they shoot our dog) locked in solitary confinement, denied bale, denied access to a lawyer and held that way for a year to force us to confess.
The least I can see is this board will label things wrong speak er I mean disinformation and that will give the leftist media and social media an excuse to not report on stuff and block stuff they are inclined to anyhow because it makes the left look bad. The new excuse will be the board of disinformation has ruled this as misinformation and therefore it has been removed from our site.
Oh and they and the academics will use the data from this board to "prove" the right posts nothing but disinformation.
this board will label things wrong speak er I mean disinformation and that will give the leftist media and social media an excuse to not report on stuff and block stuff they are inclined to anyhow because it makes the left look bad. The new excuse will be the board of disinformation has ruled this as misinformation and therefore it has been removed from our site.
Oh and they and the academics will use the data from this board to "prove" the right posts nothing but disinformation.
Yes - this is exactly what I think is going to happen.
But I think they'll take it a step further, because the left almost always does. The board will prove that disinformation is so rampant that it's a threat to national security (the head of the board has already used that trigger word) that they need to crack down on those who purvey in it, because they're dangerous to society. It may not happen but it's definitely well within the realms of possibilities.
And that's when I think the shooting will start. Unfortunately.
I desperately wish I could argue with your conclusions.
But I think they'll take it a step further, because the left almost always does.
I mean, this IS "taking it a step further" on its very first nanometer out of the gate.
Hell, the 'gate' itself even existing is "taking it a step further".
Fuck this bullshit and fuck these people.
If the scope of their activity is limited to issuing press releases regarding what they deem to be "disinformation", then it'd probably be legal (although the White House has multiple departments which already do that).
Whatever the people setting it up are likely imagining they're going to do is likely the kind of activity that would get them shut down by the courts in fairly short order.
Nina Jankowicz said "One of the key reasons the Board was established is to maintain the Dept’s commitment to protecting free speech, privacy, civil rights, & civil liberties”
And I assume that maintaining no commitment to those things will be pretty easy.
Holy fuck, did you see her singing video?
There's a Mencken quote about raising the black flag and starting to slit throats, and this bitch is going to get us to that point more rapidly.
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
And my other favorite:
"The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naive and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair."
That's the only reason AOC is agin it, that it applies to Russians, not Americans. I'm surprised Bernie hasn't similarly weighed in.
It's odd, taking property from wealthy russians is bad but taking property from wealthy americans is just fine. I guess it's all in the semantics, 'sanction' = bad, 'wealth tax' = good. Can't wait to see her reaction on red flag laws.
In her defense (and I kinda can't believe I'm bothering) at least the taxes notionally have followed due process.
It's not much, I know.
"When the DHS is in the hands of the Republicans this gets turned on dems who currently think this is a good idea. Just saying."
But there will not be another Republican Administration for at least 50 years. Because the Koch / Reason immigration agenda has imported enough obedient Democratic voters to give Democrats a lock on the White House for the foreseeable future.
#OpenBordersWillFixEverything
#LibertariansForSinglePartyGovernment
Funny Reason's only comment about the disinformation governance board is what how the GOP may do with and not what the left has already said what information they would like suppresed
Really not surprising. It will be Interesting to see the Reason spin going into the midterms. I'm predicting they will reluctantly but strategically endorse Democrats.
Of course they will. The writers here are cowardly hacks more concerned with going along to get along than being real libertarians.
Never bring something to a fight you don't want shoved up your ass later.
They think they'll never lose power.
Or they like having things shoved up their ass?
Why else do you think they insist 2nd graders learn about Timmy's other dad?
"Timmy's other dad"?
That is some cishetero, antitrans bigotry there. Timmy's parental unit does not identify as a "dad" or a "mom" and your need for labels is exactly why we need to give Timmy hormone blocking therapy immediately.
Why not both?
They know the Republicans won't actually roll back what they do, so yes, they will effectively never lose power.
I gotta say I love what David Lowery had to say on that subject! Cracker did express some great Libertarian/Individualist social and economic viewpoints here:
Cracker "Get Off This"
https://youtu.be/WbbYp7dcYFo
OccupyDems and BLM are already making up memes/picket signs to stir up outrage at the next GOP administration for having created the "disinformation" board...
Hey they mentioned the misinformation board! In one of the weakest ways possible.
Reason must be hoping to get on some kind of information pre-check list.
They mentioned a tweet about it.
I guess the party finally decided on a line to toe.
and the line is keep it away from the GOP since they are the bad ones
The Ministry of Truth has preferred pronouns. Oh my.
Nothing on the wrongthink censor in chief not liking free speech in general... Or that this board was conceived and in the worka before Elon made a bid for Twitter. We were going to get fucked regardless.
Nothing on the wrongthink censor in chief not liking free speech in general.
What do you mean? She loves free speech! She said so!
You just are deluded by thinking there's some inherent conflict between your right to free speech and her right to censor your speech, when there isn't.
If the head of the Disinformation Board says she loves free speech but has numerous tweets saying the exact opposite could she cite herself as a case of disinformation?
9 Dimensional Chess
And would pointing that out be malinformation, an even worse thought crime?
Only 48 hours late to the party. But LyingJeffy assures me this isn't that big a deal and we should wait and see because it may not be that bad.
"..Biden administration's creepy new disinformation board, which will be a part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)."
This is a lot more than just "creepy." It's fucking dystopian.
The Department of Homeland Security will be running a Disinformation Governance Board.
Read that sentence aloud a couple of times and just ruminate on it for a bit.
It gets worse, yesterday in a press conference Psaki said one of their duties will be monitoring and combating election disinformation. Hmmm, wonder how that will work?
Hmmm, wonder how that will work?
The saving grace is that these people are the very picture of incompetence.
Just means lots more eggs will "accidentally" get broken.
That's the bad part, yes. The good part is that their mission will nevertheless fail.
I'm not convinced of that. I still had to take my shoes off last time I flew to Vegas.
I still had to take my shoes off last time I flew to Vegas.
And yet we still have terrorists.
I'm not saying they won't be perfectly awful, or that this will definitely go away quickly.
I'm saying their goal of stamping out political opposition is going to fail.
It'll actually probably increase it, because anyone who isn't a leftist sycophant will see this department for exactly what it is, an end around to control speech and a propaganda department.
It'll actually probably increase it, because anyone who isn't a leftist sycophant will see this department for exactly what it is, an end around to control speech and a propaganda department.
Exactly. Even in my increasingly old age, I'm still optimistic that people aren't as stupid as politicians tend to assume that they are. I think this is going to backfire bigly.
It’s time to wipe out the democrat party and completely remove them from government at all levels.
Awesome investogatove reporting on the topic. I especially enjoyed the part where they dug into who's on the board, what specifically they will do under the purview of misinformation governance, what powers they will have to do it, what metrics or criteria they will use to define misinformation, etc. All the important stuff about a government Misinformation Governance Board.
who's on the board, what specifically they will do under the purview of misinformation governance, what powers they will have to do it, what metrics or criteria they will use to define misinformation
Personally, I haven't been able to find this information anywhere. I'm not convinced they have anything other than the fancy name and a couple of people at this point, and they're now going to start feeling out what they might be able to get away with.
Personally, I haven't been able to find this information anywhere.
As far as I can tell as well, it hasn't been reported. There is maybe one or two articles representing original reporting on it, such as this one:
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-immigration-media-europe-misinformation-4e873389889bb1d9e2ad8659d9975e9d
However, there is a metric shit-ton of right-wing freakout over it. There's at least 10 articles about it on Fox News alone. The right-of-center media is clearly trying to drum this up as something like the worst violation of our civil liberties ever ever ever. Because of the extremely hyperbolic nature of these claims, my instincts tell me that while it's undoubtedly a bad idea, it's probably not AS BAD as Fox News et al. are making it out to be. It would be nice to have more information on it so that rational people could form a rational opinion on the matter. But according to some around here (*cough* soldiermedic *cough*), anything less than the right-wing-media line of IT'S THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH COME TO LIFE constitutes defending the board and an endorsement of it.
There is absolutely no plausible reason for this ridiculous board other than political propaganda and silencing of discussions they dislike.
Read the article that I cited. There is nothing wrong with attempting to understand the good-faith arguments of one's opponents even while disagreeing with them.
Based on the article, they believe this board is justified in part because migrants from Central America have this erroneous idea, pushed by what they claim is "disinformation", that the "border is open" and if they make the dangerous journey here, they will be let right in. That idea is false, and so they want this board to combat this disinformation with correct information about the state of the border. That is their claim, at least. From this point of view, would you regard this as a "plausible reason"?
Really? And you contend you aren't defending this? WTF do you call this entire post? Fuck the level of cope needed to post this bullshit without throwing up in your mouth is just fucking insane.
WTF do you call this entire post?
What do I call it? I call it "summarizing the AP article that discussed the administration's stated rationale for setting up this board". Is that not allowed now?
Still denying your defending this I see. Fuck you are stupid.
and you are saying the rationale is "plausible" which is defending it. And making excuses is defending it. Fuck, everyone can see it but you.
And MK said there is no plausible reason for it to exists so you feel the need to inform him of the Biden administration's rationale and stated that they were plausible reasons. But MK stated the government of the US had no plausible reason. He wasn't interested in their excuses. He is correct. There is no plausible excuse for the government to do that, and we don't care what fucking excuse Biden gives for this completely unAmerican and unconstitutional actions. Period, Full Stop. Nothing more needs to fucking be stated. It's not the fucking governments job. And telling Central Americans not to break the law by coming here doesn't require a fucking new bureaucracy to do. Fuck INS already has a site they could put it on the fucking home page. Fuck that is the sorriest fucking excuse yet. Fuck. I can't even believe you reposted that.
Pedo Jeffy is the one who is also white knighting for pedophiles grooming small children. So it’s not much of a stretch for him to defend an Orwellian ‘Ministry of Truth’ organization put forth by his precious democrats. He probably gets a boner just like when he defends pedophiles. If he could find it underneath his many, many rolls of fat.
Although I hear Musk has inspired him to leverage his ownership stake in NAMBLA to a full buyout. As it’s something he’s really passionate about.
And by the way. The world is more complex than this simplistic thinking going on, that modern politics can be reduced to simple metaphors of "freedom vs. fascism". People may do things in good faith and with the best of intentions, that we nonetheless might strenuously disagree with, based on OUR good faith reasoning and OUR good intentions, and it doesn't necessarily make anyone an evil fascist asshole. Real people are not cartoon caricatures of villains or heroes. So I'm going to reject the characterization of the board as this cartoonish representation of Minitrue from a dystopian 80-year-old novel. That doesn't mean it isn't a bad idea, or that we shouldn't oppose it.
At the end of the day, do you want to coexist with these people, or not? Because if you do, you will at least have to understand why they are doing what they are doing, even if you don't agree with it.
It's fucking simple. In a federal constitutional Republic the government does not create a department to fucking combat misinformation. Period. No fucking complexity at all. Stop with the fucking false sophistry. You fucking leftist apologist. It's fucking simple, not fucking complex. You are trying to make it complex because you can't bring yourself to condemn this out of hand. You aren't being fair minded here, you are trying to defend the indefensible while also trying to claim you aren't defending it by a limp wristed "it's a bad idea but it'd not that bad". It's all fucking excuses to not call a spade a spade. It'd all fucking obfuscation on your part. You know exactly what this department is, and are pretending otherwise and trying to draw a shade of gray where none fucking exists.
False sophistry, and enthusiasm for child rapists, is all that fat fuck has. Along with a bulk supply of Haagen-Daz.
And I don't need the government telling me what is and isn't the truth to co exist. I am a free fucking American, not a fucking subject.
I don’t want to coexist with Marxists. And I only care to understand them in as far as it it strategically useful to destroy them.
Oh and fuck off and die you authoritarian bootlicker.
they believe this board is justified in part because migrants from Central America have this erroneous idea, pushed by what they claim is "disinformation", that the "border is open" and if they make the dangerous journey here, they will be let right in. That idea is false, and so they want this board to combat this disinformation with correct information about the state of the border. That is their claim, at least. From this point of view, would you regard this as a "plausible reason"?
This is the least grievous thing they're talking about, yes.
The part I find concerning is the part about combatting 'Russian' disinformation in the coming election cycle. The way they've set it up, since they have "evidence" that the Putin administration favors Trump, could we not justify any pro-Trump campaign material as 'Russian disinformation?' Or really any campaigning on the part of any disfavored Republican, as long as they could be portrayed as being sufficiently 'divisive?'
There is already open talk that there's nothing at all undemocratic about state actors working against Trump's candidacy. I very strongly doubt that the activities of this commission are going to be limited to (or even actually include) discouraging Hondurans from trying to cross the border.
And if this was all the board is meant to do, why form this board at all? Couldn't they put the same information on the INS site and BP site? Since it's their fucking departments that deal with this?
One also wonders where anyone in Honduras or Guatemala ever would have gotten the idea that all they have to do is get an unaccompanied minor across our border and the rest would be downhill?
Gee, I don't know Wally.
I don't know why you're freaking out. A government agency would never abuse its power or overstep its original purpose.
I bet this fucking statist piece of shit thinks it's totally cool that there's an entire generation of Americans for whom it's totally normal to be subjected to an xray search by a government agent, with no probable cause or reasonable suspicion. They have no memory of life without DHS, and they're now conditioned to accept that 24/7/365 surveillance is just how life is.
Yeah nothing to worry about. Just a blatant violation of the 1A, but it's totally cool and just another example of right wing pounce (which I actually predicted would be the response yesterday before you said a single thing). Fuck you gas lighting, leftist bootlicker.
it's probably not AS BAD as Fox News et al. are making it out to be
It's the rare day that anything is as bad as partisan media makes it out to be.
This must be the new talking points from the left. It's all right wing freakout and it doesn't even have enforcement power. Both LyingJeffy and Joe Friday are using it.
I also should note yesterday Psaki said that she can't "think of anyone who would disagree" with the government fighting "disinformation" on the internet. Which is similar to the nothing to freak out about narrative.
It's a Disinformation board. That's even worse.
Because the Reason staff all support the misinformation board.
It's all cool as long as they don't mention section 230.
Twitter has some strange happenings going on. First the left leaning site the Verge admits Twitter was miscounting millions in daily users.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/28/23046170/twitter-miscounted-daily-users-three-years-q1-2022-earnings
Then a mass unbending happened the day after Twitter was given the offer by musk and accepted. Conservative follow counts jumped by 30k. People banned were told their accounts were unsuspended. Is Twitter deleting their algorithms used to filter put conservative members? They were asked to not change any code as part of the sale, this happened a day later. People have questions.
Not being a tech guy, I’d ask those who are: is it even possible to make changes now that someone can’t find out about later?
A clean transfer of all new code without history to a new server would do it. If they use CM tools, they do. sanitizing it is difficult. Especially with backup measures to protect against hardware failure.
A clean transfer of all new code without history to a new server would do it.
A repo with a history dating back to the deal announcement would look awfully suspicious.
Agreed. And probably be a violation of the sale.
"sanitizing it is difficult"
Couldn't they just use a cloth or something?
Just flush out all the tubes?
I'm wondering, is it actual changes being made (considering nothing in the management structure has actually changed), or if it is just -- people who felt they were being leaned on, had to keep their heads down and tow the lion and push conservative numbers down -- if these people just don't feel leaned upon any more? Or basically, see the change in the winds, and want to straighten up so as not to get fired?
[conservative account follow counts went up by a lot more that 30K in some cases. Also, seeing a lot of reports that injected advertising going away:
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supposed to be
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Brian's soul for an edit button!
@RMAC it would be almost impossible to do that. They almost certainly use git or similar source control which tracks every change over time. And if that suddenly disappeared it would be glaringly obvious what happened.
I meet your question with another question, who's going to check that the code hasn't been changed? Most likely the person who was doing the changing.
Leftists ALWAYS engage in fraud. It makes up for their stupidity and lack of talent.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has formally proposed a ban on menthol cigarette and flavored cigar sales. Supporters of the ban have portrayed it as "a racial justice issue."
Yawn. Whatever. We left-libertarians realize the Constitutional RIGHT TO PRIVACY only protects the right to do certain approved things with your body. Like access abortion care 8.5 months into pregnancy.
But smoking menthols? Sorry, that's not covered.
#MyBodyMyChoice
#(Sometimes)
"Nor does it require that sanctions and asset seizure be linked to corruption; political "support for" the Putin administration is enough."
I am sure Bernie once said something nice about Putin.
Trump said Putin was a smart man. Maybe AOC can now legally go confiscate all of Trump's assets?
Biden called Putin the new Peter the Great. Obama and Hillary pushed the great reset and said russia wasn't a threat.
Youre still broken.
Someone can be bad and smart at the same time dummy.
Putin is a smart man. I don't know why Trump's comments are controversial. Noam Chomsky is a smart man. Barack Obama is a smart man (although nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is), hell, Trump was a lot smarter than I thought he was when he won in 2016.
By comparison to most American politicians, Putin has a PhD in history and is an excellent analyst of international politics.
That's the problem around here. Saying someone is "smart" doesn't mean you you agree with them or even like them. You underestimate your enemies at your peril.
I'm not claiming Putin wasn't smart. What Trump did was imply that his actions invading the Ukraine were very smart. Even in full context it could be seen as admiration for how he did the invasion.
NOT that I want Trump punished for this, other than the mockery he has already received, because everyone has the right to their own opinion and free speech.
I am merely reiterating the point that going after Bernie for saying something nice can also apply to Trump. Goose meet gander. The implied standard that it's okay to confiscate wealth because someone says something nice about someone who is hated is grossly Unconstitutional and immoral.
If you had a preconceived false notion that Russia and Trump colluded that was spoonfed to you by DNC operatives and Clinton staffers, yes, I can see how you would arrive at the same conclusions you started out with before confronting the preponderance of contrary evidence.
As far as things go, Putin invading Ukraine was smart. I mean Joe tried his best to get WW3 going, but as Obama pointed out years ago, Joe is a complete fuck up. Thank god for that in this instance.
Putin is clearly very smart. Like extreme high IQ smart. He's running circles around the west right now.
Uh... that remains to be seen. Clearly a lot of stuff is happening that he did not at all account for. His economy is in shambles, most trading partners are walking away, and his recent successes are just that, recent. He wasn't ready for the fight and it took him a while to get up to speed, probably because he was busy quashing opinions back home and arresting journalists.
His economy is in shambles,
The ruble is trading higher than it did before the war.
Stop reading NPR.
Multiple nations are capitulating to the "Rubles or gold only" oil deals.
Russia is not getting hammered the way Jen Psaki is telling you.
Cite?
If you need a cite for these claims, you’re clearly ignorant of basic, easily obtained information. Which we all know. Plus you love to sea lion everyone.
You are a worthless, morbidly obese, Marxis, pedophile enthusiast.
For lying Jeffy:
https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD
The Russian economy by almost all measurements have barely noticed Biden's actions.
Thanks sharing updates good morning at gm vibes
'Don't say jey'
What a shame that eight congressmen voted, in this instance at least, to uphold their oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution rather than steal money from others to help Ukrainians.
Why do they hate Ukrainian women and children?
Can someone tell The Wall Street Journal there is no "winning" a nuclear war?
No one's saying we won't get our hair mussed.
To be fair, a one sided nuclear war did win ww2.
WW2 was already won. The only remaining question was how long it would take the Japanese to surrender.
Yes, but there were still other alternatives to nukes. Granted, we didn't know much about them at the time, and they did turn out to be less destructive individually than the early conventional firebombing, but I remain unconvinced that they were required to be used.
I remain unconvinced that they were required to be used
You and I both. I'm sort of partial to the "they didn't want to surrender to the Red Army that was burning its way through Korea" argument, and so they surrendered to the US as the lesser of two evils. The timing makes more sense.
And looking at subsequent history, they made the right choice.
The Soviets didn't start their operations until after the first bomb was dropped. And Japan refused to surrender until after the second.
And Japan refused to surrender until after the second.
Which you could also frame as "they didn't response to the first bomb, but they did respond to the Soviets getting involved."
You probably can't make an airtight case either way, but given that the destructive power of the A-bomb was oversold compared to things like the Dresden firestorm, and that the Japanese were definitely losing the war, to me "we don't want to surrender to the Reds" is a clearer and simpler explanation than "who knew the Allies would firebomb our cities?"
It's hard to say. I don't buy the idea that Truman made the wrong choice. Based upon available intelligence, and the results of the Battle of Okinawa, Truman was right to fear an invasion of the Japanese homeland. So his choice was either try the bomb or prepare for an invasion that would have been extremely far more bloody than the destruction of the bombs.
I don't buy the idea that Truman made the wrong choice.
I agree that he didn't (necessarily). It's very easy for us sitting at this vantage point to say he went too far and did something that may not have been strictly necessary, but there's definitely an argument to be made that fewer people died and there's was less overall destruction associated with the A-bomb than there would have been with an actual ground invasion, no matter who did it.
I just personally suspect that in the end if it weren't for the Red Army looming, the Japanese would have stiff-upper-lipped it and hung on a lot longer than they did.
Maybe but based upon the Japanese mindset to never surrender and die rather than surrender, and defend the Empower at all costs (the US hadn't stated that they'd leave him alone) I don't think the Soviet invasion alone was enough to overcome this. Considering how the Japanese Civilians reacted at Saipan and Okinawa, I don't think the Soviets were enough. The atom bomb gave them an excuse to surrender while still saving some face (we can't fight a weapon like that).
The atom bomb gave them an excuse to surrender while still saving some face (we can't fight a weapon like that).
I could see there being something to that. They certainly couldn't openly admit that they were surrendering out of fear of the Soviets, even if it were true.
@Square = Circle: "given that the destructive power of the A-bomb was oversold compared to things like the Dresden firestorm"
The Dresden firestorm was the work of about 1300 bombers. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by 2 bombers. Do you think that difference was insignificant?
Now, if the Japanese had known that the Nagasaki bomb was the last one we'd have for months, they may have felt that the A-bomb was not as important as the destruction wrought on their cities every night by hundreds of B-29's. But as far as they knew, we might be able to load _all_ of those B-29's with nukes and take out the center of every Japanese city at once, and do this much sooner than the Red Army could grind through Korea and arrive opposite Japan - but without landing craft!
We wont know until we try!
What about our precious bodily fluids?
Nobody said this would be fun.
Our Founders risked "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" for freedom against " the world's largest empire of the time and the worst weapons they faced were cannon balls and grapeshot.
Does the eternal struggle change if the weapons we face are fissionable isotopes, microbes, or nerve gas? Should we give up defending and upholding our Natural Rights over a washed-up empire that couldn't even deliver a mess of pottage to it's own people, let alone us?
Forbid it, Almighty Void and fuck that noise!
Give me Liberty and, whether by the hands of Ukrainians or us, give Putin and the Putineers death!
Forbid it, Almighty Void and fuck that noise!
Give me Liberty and, whether by the hands of Ukrainians or us, give Putin and the Putineers death!
You understand that praying is a pointless exercise in delusion, right?
You're all in this together!
some of you MAY die, but that is a price I'm willing to pay.
Us economy shrank 4.8% in the first quarter as the media and biden continue to gaslight about their strong economic growth.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/us-gdp-q1-2020-first-reading.html
Whoops. Wrong saved link. Down 1.4%
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/28/us-q1-gdp-growth.html
Have to clean up bookmark folders.
Reason's leading economics expert says everything is fantastic because rig count is up.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
Ameliorates the spittin tabaccy price jump.
So they are openly bragging about rigging the election?
If Jimmy Carter's stagnation-with-inflation economy was dubbed "stagflation", what do you think they'll call this recession-with-inflation economy?
Racist?
A depression.
Assuming the GOP wins. Otherwise, we'll continue with 'Resuscitation'.
Trumpflation.
MMT's wet dream?
The Great Reset?
A great win deserving of another landslide.
(assuming Zuckerberg has enough money left after the stock market meltdown)
Equity justice?
During our last great stagflation, when inflation got almost as high as 15% (and it was calculated in a far more honest, straightforward manner back then than it is today), Volcker responded by raising the main funds rate as high as 22%. Now? We're still sitting there at a laughable 0.33%, even as the newer, more generous inflation formula rapidly approaches double digits.
So yeah, the next couple of years are probably going to be absolute hell for most people. The pain we have to suffer now as a result of our wild 13+ year orgy is just getting started.
I'm thinking they're pretty bad right now. The disconnect between the 'public health experts' w/ their pronouncements on the effects of the lockdowns, prolonged isolation on people's mental well-being, and rising prices is fairly humorous. In a bubonic plague is funny way. Depressed people faced with choices about paying for food, utilities, or rent, fed (pun intended) a steady diet of grievance theory by education industry and media. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
Oh it's just getting started. First reported case of human bird flu, let the panic begin (COVID is so yesterday).
'Jankowicz claimed on Twitter that "one of the key reasons the Board was established, is to maintain the Dept's commitment to protecting free speech, privacy, civil rights, & civil liberties." But just last week, she was quoted in NPR warning against "free speech absolutists."'
The double-think is strong in this one.
Not all free speech is made equal. You are free to agree with them or leave society.
Hey, hey now the Gray Box formerly known as LyingJeffy has assured me that we shouldn't be getting worked up about this, it may not be that bad.
That's like saying that the Sheriff granting your "Big Brother May I?" Concealed Carry Permit and the BATFE granting your Tax Stamp for full-auto weapons is protecting your right to keep and bear arms.
The Disinfo Board was created to decide what things they don't want you saying. You know, to protect free speech.
"You are free to say the following things..."
it's not double-think. it's double-speak.
Time is running out for South Carolina's over-the-counter birth control bill.
Hurry up, before the heads start crowning!
Why would anyone want to give birth over the counter?
Oh, never mind.
'Over-the-counter conception control' does make much more sense.
To celebrate the place of conception? Just guessing...
Inflation continues to rise. Spittin tobaccy almost too expensive to buy.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/inflation-rises-to-new-40-year-high-in-key-gauge-watched-by-fed
But don't worry, democrats have a plan to fight inflation. They want to raise taxes to bring inflation down.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/democrats-want-to-tax-hike-the-us-back-into-recession
“If you want to get rid of inflation, the only way to do it is to undo a lot of the Trump tax cuts and raise rates,” Schumer said after Democratic senators met for lunch Tuesday.
It is amazing all the ills raising taxes will solve.
Only if those tax increases target "the rich".
Also only if those tax cuts are then used to fund massive spending and redistribution of income.
The problem must have been that the budget deficits weren't big enough.
And the funny thing is, a lot of them, including AOC, don't realize that THEY are the rich compared to many other people.
She's already getting a taste of her own medicine between the liberal backlash over the Met Gala dress and the Iron Dome vote. Another few years of constant leftward shift in her party and the realization that she can't win a NY senate seat or the Presidency without courting middle of the road members of her party and they'll be calling for her to be first against the wall. Look at what's happening with Barbara Boxer.
I stated the biggest difference between today and pre-2010 Dems is the existence of Blue Dogs as a political entity.
I heard it cures arthritis, too.
Hell, they've been subsidizing smokin', chawin', and spittin' terbacky during the entire COVID-19 pandemic/endemic, even though the diseases related to these put people at risk the most. And these are the people some trust with Socialized Medicine?
Elon Musk says he "strongly supported Obama for President, but today's Democratic Party has been hijacked by extremists."
So what you're saying is Obama should be cancelled.
Wait until he hears what Obama himself said about the topic just a few days ago.
That was when Elon was young and voting with his heart.
I was kind of happy with Obama's election back in '08. I didn't like McCain and the neocons, and at the time I thought that America could finally step back from the racial divisiveness that was killing it.
I didn't realize that that the evil fuck would maliciously dial it up to eleven.
I always thought of Obama as a bought and paid for empty suit. He was absolutely nobody, sponsored no legislation, and his only accomplishment was writing a book about himself- and then he was president.
His speeches were vapid and meaningless, and completely designed to allow anyone to project whatever they wanted on them. The only semi-important thing about him was that he was black(ish).
I also said from the beginning that it was a curse as well, because he was the first black president, so there could be no meaningful opposition to his worst policies because every objection would be discredited as racism.
And yes, he's an evil fuck.
Monsanto VP to head the FDA in the first week, wasn't it?
Obama was a lying two-faced sellout who now advocates for censorship.
The left had a meltdown on this and his graphic he tweeted. They are now convinced this statement is evidence he is a fascist.
I hope they escalate the use and application of "fascist", so that people stop listening.
Better still, they brush up on the word fascist and learn about corporate capture, special protections, and crony capitalism/corporatism/mercantilism, but I'd settle for mostly stop listening.
Wapo even wrote a full story attacking the meme. Insane.
And the thing is, it's entirely true. If anything conservatives tend to be more left than they were ten or twenty years ago. Polling on most social issues show more of a left movement by the right than a rightward. Which on many things is a good thing, but the media keeps trying to convince us the right has gone extreme, not the left.
Could the media be biased?
Yes but in which direction? It's not clear.
Both Sides! (obviously)
First Term Obama would be a Republican now.
So he'd be a misogynistic white supremacist?
^ remember when Obama was against gay marriage? Any politician of either side would be crucified for that position today. Those ancient times when Obama was president...
And his speeches on immigration in the Senate.
Yeah, Clinton would be a Republican, JFK would be a Republican, chances are Truman would be considered a Republican. Hell, even Carter, while he was President, would be considered a Republican now.
Hell, even Trump is considered a Republican now.
Yeah.
But a lot of that is due to the fact that there actually were blue dog Democrats in purple districts back then. 2010 pretty much wiped them out as a concern for the far left. Now, they don't even try to court them, they attack them, see Machin, Sinema.
"The state has 1,288 independent special districts. But we aren't hearing significant GOP complaints about anyone's but Disney's," she points out.
To be fair, you can't get much more crony than the mouse.
I would like to hear Carl Hiaasen's take on this Disney episode.
Isn't that a flat out lie? I could be wrong but didn't the bill tackle most of the special districts?
Only those started before 1968(?).
As I understand it, it tackles special districts created before the latest revision to Florida's constitution, which is like 10 of them.
To be fair, literally, you *would* extend special protections to other corporations/quasi-governmental organizations for the same amount of time.
"The new Disinformation Governance Board will be headed by Nina Jankowicz, author of How to Lose the Information War and How to Be a Woman Online."
When we Koch / Reason libertarians supported Biden, we were mainly hoping for billionaire-friendly economic policies like open borders. Not only has Biden delivered that, he's giving us all this other good stuff too!
#LibertariansForBiden
#LibertariansForTheDisinformationGovernanceBoard
How to Be a Woman Online
You missed this obvious gender bias assumption, OBL. On the other hand, our new SCJ might benefit from this, at least partial, description of what a woman is.
Surely some left leaning university will grant her an honorary biology degree.
#LibertariansForCommonSenseSpeechControl
What's driving "the new Republican statism"?
They learned it from watching you, okay?
Note that it's "the new Republican statism", but there's no statism from the party that just snapped its fingers and created a minitru.
"Its not happening and its good for you."
Correction.
1. It's not happening.
2. Well, ok, it's happening but it's not as bad as you say.
3. Ok, so it's happening, it's even worse than you say, but ____________
It's a good thing.
It's Trump's fault.
Get used to it, it's just the new normal.
LyingJeffy and Joe Friday are already on stage 2.
Quickly working on stage 3.
It's okay because the they're only fighting disinformation and not the politics ENB likes.
Democrats have always been statist. That's the nicest interpretation I can come up with.
Democrats have always been statist. That's the nicest interpretation I can come up with.
^
"We expect this kind of thing from Democrats."
I love all of the terror coming from the left as soon as one republican shows some spine
Favored nation carve outs are libertarian!
Yeah, most of Reason's examples of statism are pretty weak sauce. They had three articles bashing Republicans yesterday, didn't mention our new ministry of truth at all, and only mention it briefly today, 48 hours after the news broke. Not even the leading story, no that is a story about some foreigners possibly losing constitutional rights, but the government taking away rights from US citizens only is second place, and two paragraphs and a tweet.
Projection?
I know I go to WaPo op-ed writers to hear why Republicans do...anything.
Bidens DoJ partnered with left leaning activist groups in GA to fight election reform.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-doj-coordinated-legal-assault-georgia-election-integrity-law
How worried should we be when one side isn't concerned about election integrity?
Very worried. Look around you at what's happening already.
I never thought I’d say it, but AOC is right here. We’re seizing assets from people because they are officially considered to be bastards. Many of them are, but having let that become the reason without any further due process, the government will find it convenient to apply the term liberally.
Agree here. Also finding it hard to believe I agree with something she said.
She must be conflicted, since the Russian targets are "rich".
Just because someone is wrong five times a day doesn't mean they're always wrong.
People forget that the Bill of Rights is a list of restrictions on what Congress can do -- it's not a list of rights "granted" to American citizens. It applies to all persons.
"As the menthol ban's proponents see it, even the choice to start smoking is not really a choice, because consumers—in this case, black consumers in particular—are no match for Big Tobacco's persuasive wiles."
Of course black Americans, like all Americans, are too vulnerable to be left un-shepherded. We are very fortunate that elitists are here to protect and guide us. Especially black people. I mean, they're like children.
Democrats: knowing what's good for black people since 1828.
I thought it was since 1619
"The Asset Seizure for Ukraine Reconstruction Act passed the House by a vote of 417–8 on Thursday"
Stupid fucks. How do 417 morons get played so easily?
They didn't get played, they're playing us.
3D stupid chess?
So reasons go to take on Biden setting up a department of truth is that it's bad because Republicans might be in power in the future?
I'm guessing you haven't been reading their scorching hot takes on Musk at Twitter.
No enemies on the left for the the current crop of Reasonista.
It's like when FDR interned American citizens of Japanese descent. It's not bad due to shitting on the Constitution. It's bad because: What if a Republican did something similar?
Like all extensions of government power it's _stupid_ because eventually the other side will be in power. It's bad because it's _bad_: a grossly unconstitutional attempt by government officials with a long history of lying to define the "truth".
Well, well, well. So AOC drops the mask and shows us she's a Putin supporter, eh? Why else would she support Constitutional protections for Russian oligarchs but not for Americans?
From eat the rich to suck the rich.
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1520010169769500672
This is the new Biden administration head of Ministry of Truth, Nina Jankowicz. She is in charge of what’s truth and fiction in America. Every time you think the Biden administration can’t get more ridiculous, they do:
https://twitter.com/votedegrammont/status/1519715407162077185
She lied about her tweets on her first day on the job. Pretty amazing really.
Duh, that proves her qualification.
Disinformation is her job.
"Ministry of Truth" indeed!
SoldierMedic was throwing a HUGE hissy fit that Reason wasn't covering this! Reason must be a bunch of commies!!! Man the barricades!!!
Now that Reason has mentioned it, accompanied by some clearly derogatory snide comments about said "Ministry of Truth", WHERE are the songs of praise for Reason.com?
Speaking of songs of praise, here ya go...
Scienfoology Song… GAWD = Government Almighty’s Wrath Delivers
Government loves me, This I know,
For the Government tells me so,
Little ones to GAWD belong,
We are weak, but GAWD is strong!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
My Nannies tell me so!
GAWD does love me, yes indeed,
Keeps me safe, and gives me feed,
Shelters me from bad drugs and weed,
And gives me all that I might need!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
My Nannies tell me so!
DEA, CIA, KGB,
Our protectors, they will be,
FBI, TSA, and FDA,
With us, astride us, in every way!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
Yes, Guv-Mint loves me!
My Nannies tell me so!
Defending reason only giving a partial mention to the terrible ministry. Lol.
Never change sarc.
WHERE are YOUR songs of praise for Reason.com, JesseBahnFuhrer? A few snide comments is not enough for ya? Reason.com needs to condemn the new "Ministry of Truth" as being THE WORST THING EVER, since Attila the Hun, right, right-wing wrong-nut?
Has it ever occurred to your dim bulb that if EVERYTHING is THE WORST THING EVER, then NOTHING is the worst thing? Shrill wrong-nut who cried "wolf", all day every day?
Yeah 48 hours after the news broke and me and multiple others pointing out they hadn't even mentioned it but felt the need to run three Republican bashing stories, they finally mention it briefly, but not even as the lead story of Hit n Run. Only Sqrsly and the Gray Box formerly known as LyingJeffy even tried to defend this.
They are leftists. Full stop. Their primary concern is defense of left statism. Then they spend their days finding ways to rationalize their beliefs. Ultimately ending in sophistry and very precise metaphors attempting to attack the fight against statism by the right.
Oh after a bit last night I finally got LyingJeffy to say it may be a bad idea, but nothing to "freak out about", we should wait and see what they do first. Like he was trying to be reasonable.
It's kinda like saying the guys with runes on their collars and skulls on their hats might be a bad idea but we should wait and see what they do before we make up our minds.
Did you ask him about a ministry of bears in trunks?
Y'all are kinda like the Ministry of Silly Walks, except y'all are the Ministry of Silly Hyper-Partisan Squawks!
Remember when Jeff said sexual exploitation of children was fine as long as they weren't coerced, and weren't physically molested?
Kind of. I missed the bear in the trunk thing though. I'm assuming it was another of his long list of specious allegories.
Here you go.
https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/?comments=true#comment-9176512
About what I suspected it was.
I mean even Sarc is starting to say, "wait a minute, it's time to pump the brakes" in regards to the left, but LyingJeffy and Sqrsly still have a hard on for defending the left. White Mike's been quiet lately. Wonder if he's rethinking his stances (eh, probably not).
Dude, I've never defended the left. Never once. Only numbskulls and liars who equate criticism of the right with support of the left think that.
Lol. The lies drunks tell themselves.
An example.
You attacked conservatives over their derision to mask policy as you pushed the lefts defense of it from stopping droplets. You did this for months.
You've defended the clea eat election ever.
You've defended their treatment of the J6 protestors for daring to put shoes on desks.
You thought it sucked Kyle got off on self defense and should have at least been charged with man slaughter.
I can go on and on.
I mean here is you defending the immigration problem as being caused by trump lol.
https://reason.com/2021/07/28/two-more-whistleblowers-come-forward-alleging-neglect-and-mismanagement-at-migrant-youth-shelter/?comments=true#comment-9016761
You are downstream blaming the Ministry of Truth on Trump. Really? You are going to go with I never defended the left?
That quote you posted is not defending the left. Only a numbskull would think that.
You are downstream blaming the Ministry of Truth on Trump. Really? You are going to go with I never defended the left?
How is that defending the left? No, it's blaming the right for creating such a toxic atmosphere of discourse that those who hate debate feel the need to forcefully silence their opponents in defiance of the Constitution.
You're smarter than that.
It's kissing cousins to defending the left. And even a numbskull can see that. It's a passive aggressive way of deflecting blame from the left.
Did you catch the part where I said that what the left is doing is a blatant violation of the Constitution? How do you equate that with defending or supporting them?
Because it's deflection, yeah the left is violating the constitution but they were forced to because of Trump.
That's like me saying that Putin invaded Ukraine because he feared NATO expanding on his country's border, and you responding by saying I think Putin was justified. It's daft.
I never said "forced." That would justify what they did. I don't know if you're deliberately lying at this point. I expect that from JesseAz, but not you.
No it's just strongly implied. I gave multiple examples of them trying to get something similar to this for decades, and you stated it only happened after Trump, the implications are crystal clear.
Oh fuck you. Time after time, what you all call "defending the left" is actually "attacking the right's outrageous claims". When it comes to the disinformation board, you have gotten it into your head somehow that there are only two possible options:
1. It's the MINISTRY OF TRUTH come to life and we should hyperventilate hysterically about it.
2. It is A WONDERFUL IDEA and we should defend it at all costs.
That's it, it's a false dichotomy that you cannot let go of.
My position is, and was from the beginning, that it sure looks like a bad idea but it's probably not pants-shitting OMG MINITRUE level of awful that right-wing media is portraying it out to be, and that it would be nice to have more information about it to decide what it's really about. But to you that's an unacceptable position. You are the one behaving badly with your epic meltdown about this.
No it wasn't you didn't state it was a bad idea until your last post last night. Instead you stated it may not be that bad. Stop your fucking gaslighting. You stated no need to freak out. You never said it was a bad idea until I embarrassed you into saying that. And anyone can go back and look, so who you're trying to convince that there are five lights not four?
And if you don't think this is a serious problem you're a fucking leftist apologist. Which we already knew. Now you're back to being a gray box because you can't stop gas lighting. Fuck off and die.
And I notice you are still blaming the right for freaking out over a little thing like government board of disinformation. Yeah, it's the right that is at fault, you fucking lying piece of shit.
Instead you stated it may not be that bad.
I stated that I don't think it is AS BAD AS what the complete epic right-wing freakout meltdown over it claims it is. No, I do not think that due to whatever this Disinformation Board is, that you are going to be dragged out of your house at 3am and thrown in a gulag and shot in the head based on posting some shitty meme. I think that is hysteria and hyperbole. JUST LIKE, whenever Trump did anything, Team Blue would have an epic meltdown and claim that it was the dark night of fascism descending.
But to you, it must be either OMG MINITRUE or TOTALLY OKAY. No in between. You are smarter than this normally but this issue has fucked with your head big time.
You never said it was a bad idea until I embarrassed you into saying that.
Don't kid yourself. You didn't goad me into anything. You are incapable of doing so.
it's a false dichotomy
No it isn't. That's an argument given to midwits to distract them from the implications.
Also, no free, democratic government on earth has ever created a ministry to determine truth and fight what they label as disinformation before, but every single authoritarian and totalitarian government has.
Why do you believe that this is magically different?
"But to you, it must be either OMG MINITRUE"
Probably because it is literally OMG MINITRUE, and you have to be a dishonest fuck of enormous proportions to claim otherwise.
Probably because it is literally OMG MINITRUE
And you know this how? Because the fifty identical stories on right-wing media all told you so?
The truth is, we know very little about this board, what it is precisely supposed to do, what its specific duties are going to be, etc. That is not just me saying that, Square = Circle said the same thing above. Is he a "DNC shill" too now?
I get it, you are pre-disposed to view anyone to the left of Ted Cruz as evil fascists, and so the moment you heard about this board, you and the rest of Team Red jumped to the immediate conclusion that this was definitive proof of fascism in action. JUST LIKE, when Trump was in charge, Team Blue was predisposed to believe he was a fascist, and so interpreted every single action of his as definitive proof of fascism in action. All of y'all are behaving like tribal idiots, and I and a couple of others are actually behaving like rational human beings by not immediately falling for the hysteria and waiting until we actually have more information before definitely stating that yes, this is LITERAL OMG FASCISM. I'm not a shill for any team, you are.
And you know this how?
BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST CREATED AN OFFICE OF DISINFORMATION, YOU PURPOSEFULLY DECIETFUL NAZI FUCK!
It's not the government's business to be arbiters of the truth! It's an incredibly dangerous and stupid thing to do. Historically it has never-ever-ever-ever worked out well. Not even once.
It's very existence is fascism, even without actions.
Anyone who isn't an authoritarian piece-of-shit should be terrified by its creation.
To Jesse, any position that is not 100% pro-right-wing is explicitly pro-left-wing. Is that your position too? Don't be dumb like Jesse.
Your position, as everyone is well aware is that anything the left does wrong is the entirely the fault of the right and therefore we should only criticize the right.
Nope not my position. That is you pulling a Jesse and stuffing strawman arguments into my mouth. What did Jesse do to you? Is he blackmailing you into adopting his shitty tactics?
Soldiermedic76's right you fascist fuck.
Do you actually believe that we're all not cognizant of the fact that you're a Democratic Party shill paid to fifty-cent in the comments?
ML, your opinion of me is meaningless. You're a tribalist moron. Anyone to the left of Ted Cruz is a "fascist fuck".
Citation? I've called put your leftist beliefs too. Just like sarc you claim you aren't a left but constantly defend shit. Like today the misinformation commission. Pro marxism. Critical theory. Government handouts. Etc.
Fuck off jeff.
Nobody here respects or agrees woth your sophistry outside of like 4 people.
You've never advocated a position here that wasn't tribalist, chemleft, you Nazi garbage.
You claim that you're libertarian but every psychotic Democratic Party policy has seen you fall lockstep behind.
Online and government censorship? - ✓
A Ministry of Truth? - ✓
Locking up protesters indefinitely without charges? - ✓
Price controls - ✓
The obvious explanation for the divergence between your purported ideology and your advance of the DNC narrative of course, is that your a fifty-center paid to push that narrative here and elsewhere.
Jesse is tangibly more intelligent than you are. He’s also honest. Where you are a lying shitweasel. You may or may not be a pedophile yourself, but you are absolutely their biggest cheerleader. I’ll bet you’re dying to push for calling them ‘minor attracted person’, but you can’t quite get away with that yet.
You are vile, sophist, dishonest, and a Marxist at heart. Which is why you are so hated here, and likely everywhere else too.
To be fair, what else is he going to do to supplement his welfare check and whatever disability scam he’s running? Would you actually hire a worthless, annoying, morbidly obese Marxist sludge like him to do anything? I sure as hell wouldn’t.
It’s just a shame his parents didn’t beat and starve him. He would be so much better off if they had.
Remember when Jeff said sexual exploitation of children was fine as long as they weren't coerced, and weren't physically molested?
That is a slanderous lie. I said no such thing.
You really get off on falsely accusing people of horrible crimes against children, don't you?
It is amazing watching you assholes deny your past statements constantly.
You said exactly that, you lying sack of shit.
Lol. Maybe the next time a teacher tells little 6 year old Timmy that he might not be a boy if he doesn’t feel like one, they’ll run it by the misinformation board and see what they think.
I also remember him extending his insane open borders bullshit to know pedophiles from other countries. He adamantly demands they have unlimited access to the US.
Try and deny that you worthless fatfuck.
Sqrlsy's celebrating a government created Minitru and claiming criticism of it is somehow statist.
Fucking amazing.
I see! So you’re saying that the Intergalactic Sub-Smegmonic Boogoidian-Strawmen-Hybrids have deployed booger-beams (Those unspeakable BASTARDS) and have hijacked your tinfoil hat! You have my sympathies, but no more… I have no good advice for you, sorry! Other victims of the Intergalactic Sub-Smegmonic Boogoidian-Strawmen-Hybrids that I have known? They all ended up on Skid Row, and I could NOT help them!
Seems about right.
Why do y'all lust after torturing the libertarian babies to death, and then drinking their blood, in Satanic rituals?
I wonder if he is aware how fucking clownish everyone sees him as?
Has your tinfoil hate-hat given you access to EVERYONE now? Where do you buy it, and how do you calibrate it?
I WANT TO BUY ONE NOW!!! (Maybe I can add a logic inverter to the "hate-gate" in there somewhere.)
He doesn't care. His purpose is to throw shit while defending the left and attacking the right.
I disagree. His purpose is to get shit thrown at him so he can it eat it off the ground.
He thinks he's "funny". He's a pathetic old man who takes in far too much midwit establishment propaganda like Salon and MSNBC.
Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer thinks that all one needs to do to refute something, is to say, "That's not from MY Sacred Tribe, QED!"
Tribalism is literally what you're doing by defending the inception of Minitru.
Do you know a DAMNED thing about self-righteous and self-centered tribalism, other than what can be learned by living and breathing it?
The intelligent, well-informed, and benevolent members of tribes have ALWAYS been resented by those who are made to look relatively worse (often FAR worse), as compared to the advanced ones. Especially when the advanced ones denigrate tribalism. The advanced ones DARE to openly mock “MY Tribe’s lies leading to violence against your tribe GOOD! Your tribe’s lies leading to violence against MY Tribe BAD! VERY bad!” And then that’s when the Jesus-killers, Mahatma Gandhi-killers, Martin Luther King Jr.-killers, etc., unsheath their long knives!
“Do-gooder derogation” (look it up) is a socio-biologically programmed instinct. SOME of us are ethically advanced enough to overcome it, using benevolence and free will! For details, see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ and http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/ .
You claim to be a libertarian but in the last week you've defended online censorship, child castration and the creation of an Orwellian Ministry of Truth, just because they are pushed by the Democratic Party.
You're tribalism incarnate.
Every bit as much as You (Perfect One) have advocated for driving the human race to extinction, lest someone, somewhere, NOT be PUNISHED-PUNISHED-PUNISHED quite precisely enough!
Give me one citation Sqrlsy of you agreeing with the Republicans and disagreeing with the Democrats.
In days bygone, Team "R" used to believe in SMALLER Government Almighty. Now, all that they believe in, any more, is... "The Personality Cult of TRUMP-TRUMP-TRUMP!!!!" (And, of course, Trump's Big Lie.)
Team "R" still apparently (??? I hope!) believes in deregulation, "drill, Baby, Drill", and oil pipelines, as far as I can tell. Here, I do agree with Team "R" and not "D"... Liar!
That's not a citation. That's a phony vision of the past.
SQRLSY should be put down. It isn’t even human anyway.
Neither of those organizations are midwit, they are dim, bottom rung, purely ignorant and stupid.
halfwit?
Just for the record; this will NOT be a private corporation.
But but section 230.
"Start your own DHS."
"Start your own Big Lie generator." If Trump can do it, you can, too!
"Big Lie generator"
COVID came from a wetmarket, "Hands up, don’t shoot", Trump’s a Russian spy, Kavanaugh ran a secret gang rape cartel, Covington kids assaulted a vet, Trump said neo-Nazis were "fine people", MAGA madmen lynched Smollet, Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress, HCQ doesn't work, Biden doesn't have dementia, Masks work, COVID passports, Cuomo didn't kill old people, Dominion systems were secure, Hunter Biden is an artist, Trump colluded with Russia, Jan 06 was an insurrection, Transwoman are real women, BLM is mostly peaceful, Trump had a pee pee tape, Antifa is an idea, George Floyd didn't overdose, Advanced coursework is racist, 1619 is real history, Hunter Laptop wasn't real, Trump caused asian hate, White rage is the problem, CRT isn't poisonous, All white people are racist, A pipe in ATL stopped the count, Kavanaugh is a drunk rapist, Monsanto has a great product, Wildfires are bc climate change, Gen Flynn is a traitor, Omar didn't marry her brother, Anita Hill story was true, Trump votes were whitelash, Trump called Nazis fine people, The media is tough on Biden, Trump tried to nuke a hurricane, Cops kill 1000s unarmed POC, Green New Deal is affordable, Hurricanes are all stronger now, Kamala never witheld evidence, Everything is infrastructure, America is structural racism, IRS never targeted Tea Party, Defund the Police, Austere religious scholar dies, Joe never fingered Tara Reade, 17 Intel Agencies agree, Imran Awan did nothing wrong, Greta Thunberg is authoritative, Giuliani warned of FBI raid, Social Workers can stop crime, Joe Scarborough is innocent, No Las Vegas Shooter motive, Brexit was undemocratic, Moderate rebels aren't terrorists, GOP baseball shooter apolitical, Dangerous Lockdown protests, Scaramucci had Russian ties, CIA doesn't plant news stories, NSA isn't spying on your calls, Trump preparing Martial Law, Border Walls don't work, You didn't build that, Racism is public health crisis, Walls closing in on Trump, Bitcoins a worthless scam, Gillum did no wrong, Trump said all Mexicans rapists, 5 people murdered at Capitol, No immunity via C19 infection, Trump tear gassed Lafayette Square, Hillary didn't hide any emails, Its illegal to view Wikileaks, Trump had secret Russia server, Clinton-Lynch Tarmac was fine, Katie Hill is the victim, Trump pays no taxes, Brazille never leaked questions, Manafort visited Assange, China never paid Hunter, Pelosi's hair salon set her up, W.E.F. is a benign organization
Meat is bad for the environment, Feinstein's staffer wasn't CCP, Podesta emails were doctored, Omar didn't pay husband $2.8M, Amazon = 'Lungs of the Earth', Clinton foundation helped Haiti, Nothing was on Weiner's laptop, Hillary didn't collapse into a van, Nike doesn't use slave labor, Trans Story hour is beautiful, The Asymptomatic spread C-19, Stacey Abrams was cheated, Zuckerberg saved 2020 election, The NBA isn't supporting CCP, Trump failed Puerto Rico, Rittenhouse showed up to kill, AOC staff didn't divert $1M, C.Cuomo didn't break isolation, Baturina never wired Hunter $$, China stopped fentanyl export, Chauvin jury was impartial, Maxine Waters made no threat, Ed Buck was just a fundraiser, Schiff didn't leak classified info, COVID Spring break will kill you, Boulder shooter Alissa is white, Biden attended Delaware State, 2-Scoops was a Big deal, Weinstein shocked Hollywood, Guns owners don't stop crime, Brian Williams Heli was shot at, Hillary did land under sniper fire, Lauer's behavior was unknown, Joy Reid's blog was hacked, NY DA will take Trump down, You should report GOP family, Solyndra did nothing wrong, Prince Andrew isn't a Pedo, Kaepernick unsigned because racism, Avenatti will be great President, Coal miners: learn to code, No, Blackrock isn't to blame, Trump last-ditch war with Iran, Uranium One wasn't a scandal, Carter Page was Russian asset, Burisma did nothing wrong, AR15 used in all mass shooting, Trump stimulus is breadcrumbs, 1/6 riots planned assassination, Trump wants to Nuke North Korea, FISA warrants aren't abused, Democrats freed the Slaves, Tucker wasn't spied on, The GOP opposed Civil Rights, Biden never plagiarized, Trump hates the environment, The parties flipped, USMCA is a disaster, Biden didn't kill keystone jobs, Trump destroyed US leadership, Vince Foster committed suicide, CCP wont manipulate currency, Classical Music is Racist, Trump wont have magic wand, Paris Climate Accords help US, Trump is Anti-Semite, Math is Racist, What difference does it make, Manufacturing isn't returning, Trump will crash stock market, There is no deep state, Abolish gender pay gap, POC have trouble getting an ID, Seattle's CHAZ isn't dangerous, CNN townhall wasn't scripted, Trump hid in bunker, Ma'Khia was in schoolyard fight, The NC bathroom bill was evil
Did you mention the Whitmer kidnapping plot? Or zero fraud, oh wait just a little acceptable fraud?
We could actually fill hundreds of equally long posts, couldn't we.
Yeah, and that's only if we limit it to the last decade, if we expanded it to my lifetime we wouldn't have time to do anything else.
The problem is that you absolutely could and so it all just sort of fades into the constant background noise of continuous scandal.
No widespread corruption.
Also, I see my the huge number of gray boxes he's gone totally deranged again. Time to call his nurse and let them know he needs his meds again.
Time to call his vet and put him down.
I really hope he dies.
Any vote for Trump MUST be valid, and any vote NOT for Trump, MUST be fraudulent!
With this one-way vote-valve, we will SAVE democracy and freedom!
Providing a teenager with “gender dysphoria”, with ANY kind of “emotional support”, or a charter school with protection from bullying, is the SAME thing as raping 5-year-olds, and MUST be PUNISHED- PUNISHED- PUNISHED in the exact same manner!
Judgmental self-righteous asshole describes you to a "T"!
You have "human dysphoria"... You're an evil inhumane being stuck in a human body! Try to LOVE being a humane human, for once!
Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer has ZERO balance… She would PUNISH- PUNISH- PUNISH the ones who fart too loudly, the same as the ones who fire-bomb our houses in the middle of the night!
All agonist-muscle, and no antagonist-muscle, You are, Oh Perfect Imbalanced One… All gas pedal, and no brake! And one of these days, You will have earned Your Perfect Self a Perfect Collision of Agony!
Ha-ha. You got your ass handed to you so you're back to stamping your foot and calling names.
You know, Mammary-Fuhrer, your “species dysphoria”? Whereby you have an evil, inhumane spirit stuck in a human body? Let’s call it what it is… It is an EVIL spirit! It does NOT lead to your Happy Place!
Whether your evil spirit is merely metaphorical, or metaphysical, Mephistophelian, or Manichaean, it really doesn’t matter much. (I can say that it is a waste of time to bother to look for it under your bed, or in your closet, is about as far as I will go). The rest isn’t worth arguing about.
All I can say is, whatever its nature may be, your evil spirit is NOT going to lead you to your Happy Place!
Healing often starts with understanding. Start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.
Has he started making inane comments about the Great Enchanter Tim yet? That's when he has really lost it.
Ask, and ye shall receive wisdom!
Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!
So I discussed your awesome talents with some dear personal friends on the Reason staff… Accordingly…
Reason staff has asked me to convey the following message to you:
Hi Fantastically Talented Author:
Obviously, you are a silver-tongued orator, and you also know how to translate your spectacular talents to the written word! We at Reason have need for writers like you, who have near-magical persuasive powers, without having to write at great, tedious length, or resorting to boring facts and citations.
At Reason, we pay above-market-band salaries to permanent staff, or above-market-band per-word-based fees to freelancers, at your choice. To both permanent staff, and to free-lancers, we provide excellent health, dental, and vision benefits. We also provide FREE unlimited access to nubile young groupies, although we do firmly stipulate that persuasion, not coercion, MUST be applied when taking advantage of said nubile young groupies.
Please send your resume, and another sample of your writings, along with your salary or fee demands, to ReasonNeedsBrilliantlyPersuasiveWriters@Reason.com .
Thank You! -Reason Staff
And there he goes, I predict.
Pavlov's dogs weren't even this predictable.
Absolutely pathetic.
Okay aoc now do the j 6 protesters
They didn't lose assets, just their freedom. And she was almost killed.
Days since enbs last yglasias reffrence :22
Days since jesseaz last yglasias reffrence : - 1.i don't know how he pulled it off
I dont have Twitter so only have access to hisblast 6 tweets. I'll do better.
Matthew Yglesias
@mattyglesias
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Finding me annoying is the current thing.
Nice one.
I liked it. Felt appropriate =)
Where is she on the crazy/hot matrix?
https://twitter.com/Chadwick_Moore/status/1519847521031532545
When a Minister of Truth came to America of course it was going to be a smug, condescending white woman. And of course she looks and sounds exactly like this.
A few centuries ago there were heresy laws, and the Ministry of Truth of the time was better known as the Inquisition.
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Unfortunately literally every republican and libritarian (actual libritarian, not the retards that work for reason) have been saying the left want to do this since at least 2010
Difficulty. She isn't hot. And she talks like someone knocked her jaw off.
We live in the age of Karen.
From COVID and public health, to education and coddling, to the ultimate social justice movement based on institutional empathy, its a tsunami of estrogen.
All significant decisions are now made by the craziest people, because power is now concentrated and goes to whoever can't stop, can't rest, can't give it a break, etc. Normal people do something other than obsess over The Current Thing all day every day. They don't, so they win.
Ergo, we're fucked.
But if you point that out youre a right wing statist.
Far above and to the left of the Debbie Mendoza Diagonal.
She comes off as the ultimate whiny karen type. Victim culture degree, false assertions on top of false assertions inside of false assertions.
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1519883670408118273
Biden’s Minister of Truth: “Force away! Lock us down.”
What's driving "the new Republican statism"?
There might not be state-sponsored book burnings in Tennessee in the near future (but who knows). Perhaps more profound than even the fury of the new right-wing culture war is the way it appears to be completely reconfiguring what we understood American conservatism to be.
Meanwhile progs are actually burning books and not a peep from Reason
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/book-burning-at-ontario-francophone-schools-as-gesture-of-reconciliation-denounced/ar-AAOcyYP
Didn't ENB mock us for being alarmist when they started banning Mark Twain, Dr. Seuss and Tintin books?
But look at these guys fret that they can't have a book teaching boys how to suck old man dink in the school library.
Crazy story in Canada about the government legislating a law to outlaw benefits to religions who aren't woke.
Wait, what? That totally sounds like Trudeau but is news to me.
I'll have to find it. It is starting with a bill to remove military chaplains from religions who don't support LGBT issues.
Yes Republican statism, right after Biden creates a ministry of truth. But hey, nothing to see here.
soldier, the "ministry of truth" has no enforcement powers, unlike the Florida Governor and state legislature which just punished a specific private business with legislation passed without Committee hearings or any public input, because it's CEO criticized other legislation they passed. I thought a strong defender of rights - the 1st Amendment in this case - like you would want to know about that real outrage and abuse of power.
the "ministry of truth" has no enforcement powers
It's part of the Department of Homeland Security, you disingenuous fuck. Who do you think you're tricking?
Yeah, who the fuck cares if it does or doesn't have enforcement powers. Today they create the department. Next week they will say it isn't enough and the week after that they'll be sending out SWAT teams to take down your uncle for posting memes. Also they don't need enforcement powers, they'll delegate those to the ATF/FBI/DEA or some other alphabet soup agency. The very fact that it exists is more than enough to make it extremely authoritarian. But yeah, Joe Friday would be stupid enough to defend it.
Again, no enforcement powers. Note soldier is a partisan enough hack to not even criticize the State of Florida's war on the 1st amendment.
Again, you're fucking lying. This is a part of the Department of Homeland Security which has shitloads of enforcement powers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Homeland_Security#List_of_incorporated_agencies
Of course you think this is no big deal. You really should kill yourself Joe.
Here comes Joe once again defending something that is straight out of the playbook of ChiComs and 1930s Germany, but remember folks, we're the real fascists for standing up for free speech.
and he calls me a partisan hack and states Florida is waging a war on free speech by stating that schools can't teach kindergartners about sex without parental permission. Hint idiot that isn't a war on free speech, creating a government board to combat misinformation and disinformation is a war on free speech. And it's funny you keep insisting it has no enforcement authority. Yeah, we believe you. Also, I have some ocean front property in Arizona that I'll sell you cheap.
Soldier, it would be less embarrassing for you as a pretentious pontificating poster - your word count is off the charts - if you actually tried to keep up on events. Let me help you.
At the governor/ dictator of Florida's command, the state legislature voted in legislation - without committee hearings or public or expert comment - a bill intended to punish Disney because it's CEO criticized previous legislation he/ they passed. They didn't hide their motivation and the GOP members voted lockstep with limited debate to punish a company because it's CEO dared exercise his 1st Amendment rights to criticize the State. The State brought it's full power down on his company's ass, and in a reckles bill, the full impact of which no one knows, beyond its 6 clear intent to squelch the 1st Amendment.
As someone with claimed heightened sensitivity to the misuse of government power, I'm sure you will now join me in denouncing this blatant example of what you imagine the DHS intends to do, though there are no examples like this one of their doing so.
Get it?
At the governor/ dictator of Florida's command, the state legislature voted in legislation - without committee hearings or public or expert comment
So the democratically-elected Florida legislature are being dictators by voting on a thing without having had experts tell them how they should vote first?
How often do other legislation require all those things before a vote? I've never heard of my state legislature, in any of the six states I've lived in having a public comment period or expert witnesses for every piece of legislation. Hell for most legislation.
Then soldier there is something wrong with the states you have lived in or your just another ignorant fuck who pays no attention to local and state politics while claiming all politics is local.
Square you simpleton, committee hearings are SOP for bills and the more complicated - this one in Florida is very complicated with long range consequences unknown to anyone involved, since these kind of self governing bodies have typically been around since the inception of whatever the organization - could be Disney (1967), could be the Marion County Library board. Reports by committee staff as well as public comments are taken as part of a sane legislative process. Of course this was not that, it was the dictator governor and his GOP lapdogs targeting the 1st amendment rights of a citizen speaking for his organization in a way the governor did not like.
Read a fucking book or newspaper sometime so you have at least a vague clue about what happens and how things work.
it was the dictator governor and his GOP lapdogs targeting the 1st amendment rights of a citizen
So . . . there was no vote?
And Disney, Inc. = "a citizen organization?"
How do you feel about Citizen's United?
Read a fucking book or newspaper sometime so you have at least a vague clue about what happens and how things work.
Has anyone ever told you you don't bluff very well?
I didn't call Disney "a citizen organization". Can you make a point with words I spoke and ideas I conveyed?
Citizen's United sucks and isn't about citizens speaking. It's about rich people, labor unions, and corporations giving money anonymously.
Watch your Marxist shill mouth you fucking punk. You’re a moronic uneducated fool. You have zero business criticizing anyone here.
You’re a punchline to a bad joke that no one wants to hear.
Joe Friday still defending his partisanship by calling others partisan, still lying about what happened in Florida too.
He's such a dishonest fuck.
What a hack. Unbelievable that you pretend to care about excess government power and constitutional rights but defend this blatant example of not only bad legislation who's impact no one knows but legislation intended purely to punish free speech.
By the way, genius, tell us how I lied about what happened in Florida. Lay it out in detail so I can kick your ass around the board.
"punish"
You still haven't explained how getting treated like everyone else is punishment.
You couldn’t kick your way out of a wet paper sack. You faggoty fuck. If Media Matter si a lying you more than a peso for your comments, you’re vastly overpaid.
Also still lying about the Disney bill that encompassed ten special zones not just Disney.
Also, I don't think I've actually taken a strong stance either way on the Florida Disney kerfuffle other than to say Disney was stupid to get involved in the matter in the first place and that these kinds of zones shouldn't exist period.
Disney was stupid to get involved in the matter in the first place and that these kinds of zones shouldn't exist period
^
My position in a nutshell.
Yes, citizens must keep their mouth shut and their heads down or they deserve whatever the governor serves up.
Cripes, these are the libertarians? No, GOP, MAGA creeps.
Who just created a ministry of truth? And you label conservatives creepy? Fuck you are stupid.
whatever the governor serves up
By "governor," do you mean "legislature?"
"Read a fucking book or newspaper sometime so you have at least a vague clue about what happens and how things work."
- Joe Friday
Why haven't you, you phony?
I thought you said I was full throated defending it, now you admit I didn't defend it? Also, as I explained this was part of the Florida legislature taking care of these special zones which had expired and which they've been doing away with for years as they expire, and Disney was one of ten such zones, it wasn't singled out this year, nine others lost their special zone designations as well, and none of them headed into the debate about the legislation. You are pushing a false narrative, which is mainly why I haven't taken a stance on it, because it's a false narrative.
soldier, you don't know WTF you are talking about and it's getting beyond embarrassing. It was not part of the governor's or anyone's agenda to change these districts and it still isn't. I told you it doesn't go into affect for a year and dollars to donuts it won't happen after the deals are cut and Disney agrees to start giving DeSantis and the GOP hefty contributions again. You know about that Right? No? Stupid fuck pretending to know something.
Maybe your bullshit will fly in Montana or wherever the fuck you live, but no one following this believes that nor has anyone in the Florida GOP even said that when they were ramming this through or afterward.
you don't know WTF you are talking about and it's getting beyond embarrassing
It is, but not for the person you think.
Well, Joe IS a failing faggot, so……
Sarc and Jeff do the same calling everyone that disagrees with them then crying like batches when people point out they are leftists based on actions and beliefs.
Jerk off, they passed it that way to appear like there was a principle involved, though they couldn't tell you what and they have no idea what the consequences are. THERE WERE NO HEARINGS, NO PUBLIC OR EXPERT INPUT, NO COMMITTEE INVESTIGATIONS on a bill of exceedingly complicated import. They left an out in that it doesn't take effect for a year, when they can cut the deals behind the scene - Disney contributed to both parties in the state, but to the GOP by a factor of about 2 to 1 and was DeSantis's largest donor. With the CEO's statement defending his employees and criticizing the legislation he said they would hold up on any contributions in the near term. Unlike you jack asses I know what happened. You only know the GOP spin because that's all you read or listen to and you'll believe anything if a Republican is talking and you don't care anything about the rights you pretend to care about.
It really sucks when your victims hit back, doesn’t it bitch?
1. It's not happening.
2. Ok, it's happening, but it's not as bad as you say.
3. [...]
3) FBI SWAT team busting in your door at 3 am, shooting your dog and dragging you off to jail, where you'll be denied bale, a lawyer and placed in solitary confinement for a year, all for posting a Let's Go Brandon Meme. They'll label you an insurrectionist.
the "ministry of truth" has no enforcement powers
What's the point of it?
It's like he's never heard of mission creep and has never seen how our government works. Today no enforcement power, tomorrow they document "a major problem" day after that armed agents taking down granny for posting memes.
It also just strikes me that "don't worry, it won't actually be able to achieve its stated purpose" is a weird defense.
Yeah. Because the government always gives up when they can't achieve their mission.
I mean look at the war on poverty and drugs.
Soldier - Florida/ Disney. Look it up!
Like I said you're lying about Florida and Disney. Look up what the bill actually did, it impacted ten, not just Disney. The other nine didn't say a word about the bill. You're repeating partisan talking points that aren't even close to the truth of the matter. In other words disinformation, best hope the Republicans never get control of the board of disinformation. Then you might see what enforcement powers they actually have.
BTW, these zones were all created before 1962, and their authorization had actually expired and Florida legislature has been doing away with them for years as their authorization have expired. Disney just happened to be one of ten this year the legislature did away with, and they've done away with multiple others in the past couple of years.
Correcting misinformation by providing information.
First that isn't the Governments job, second much of what they label disinformation is true (Hunter Biden's labtop) or a difference of opinion. In a democracy, the government shouldn't be deciding what is and isn't true. That is what the Chinese and Nazis actually did. Yeah, might want to reread the Constitution bub.
Correcting misinformation by providing information.
Which involves the sitting administration deciding what is and isn't "misinformation," no?
And how will these "corrections" be shared?
Will there be a White House website containing a list of false claims and their corrections?
Or will they be issuing directives to Twitter and Facebook to monitor certain viewpoints if they don't want more onerous regulations to deal with?
Yes, that’s usually what happens when YOU post disinformation.
So youre defense of it is that it is just taxpayer funded propaganda? Lol. They already said they were going to use it for election misinformation.
So youre defense of it is that it is just taxpayer funded propaganda? Lol. They already said they were going to use it for election misinformation.
^
Pretty weak tea.
"AOC Defends Due Process..."
Blind squirrels, sopped clocks.
Or maybe someone told her that a majority of Republican reps were voting for it.
Have we started WWIII yet, to spare white progressive snowflakes the horror of having to admit they lost a winnable race against a beatable opponent in 2016?
V. We had 2 under trump.
Who is burning down the meat packing plants?
When such disparate members as AOC, Tlaib, MTG, and Massie are all opposed to a bill, rest assured there's something damned wrong with it.
also rest assured the vast majority of the congress will vote for it.
Aaaaaaand they did.
I have one question about the Ministry of Truth; can the republicans appoint Trump as the head after they win in November?
Will that matter to the democrats?
Some judge will block it for...reasons. shut the fuck up, that's why.
They will have all the ex-Twitter staff hired by then. Now with government jobs that no billionaire can pry them from.
Twitter: There's no such thing as shadowbanning! (changes algorithm the minute Musk buys Twitter)
DHS: (picks up pad and pen) "Shadowbanning", huh? Do we need a new unelected board for that?
Yeah the timing of this new board isn't at all suspicious. Especially when senatorial Democrats are now threatening to subpoena Musk and force him to testify before Congress on his plans for Twitter and threatening him with legislation to give Congress control of social media and who can own it. Nothing to see here, it's those damn Republicans that are statists.
Nothing keeps the homeland safer than complete control of all information.
It's too bad assholes like Josh Hawley will fight tooth and nail to abuse the system they've been given rather than just ending it.
I just saw that episode of Archer.
that would be the greatest head explosion of all time.
As if Trump wasn't daily bullying the free press when he was president, bringing his substantial weight and that of his office down on them. What planet do you live on?
Oh so now you're excusing it because Trump was mean to the press? Fuck you are a leftist simp authoritarian bootlicker.
I am pretty sure being mean to the press is covered under the 1A. I wish more politicians were mean to the press, and the press mean to them, instead of being fucking bed partners.
And another thought, if Trump really did bully the media, think about what he or DeSantis could do now that Biden created this authoritarianism lite board when they get power again. Even if you think it's good because you dislike the right, you should consider how the "evil" right will be able to use this next time they're in power.
And then you will understand the dangers of it.
Probably you won't, you'll just piss and moan when it's turned against you and pretend like it wasn't your side that created this monstrosity.
As if Trump wasn't daily bullying the free press when he was president
How so, exactly?
He was mean to them and didn't kiss their ass.
Remember when Trump had an AP reporter’s phone tapped? Oh wait, that was Obama…….
How can you write the shit you do without being embarrassed is a mystery.
The four "no" votes from the right came from Reps. Madison Cawthorn (R–N.C.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (R–Ga.), Thomas Massie (R–Ky.), and Chip Roy (R–Texas).
AOC gets top billing and Paparazzi treatment on the red carpet, but Marjorie Taylor Greene is a footnote.
SOP.
AOC much prettier than horse face MTG.
AOCs the handsomest filly in the stable, but farmer Joe couldn't get her or MTG to take the bit on that one.
That one is gonna hit a nerve. 'Take the bit' is the booking note the girls at the massage parlor have always used for Joe Friday's appointments.
Well, she is an evil, nasty New Statist Republican.
AOC's right wing mirror.
At least MTG is doing something useful since being kicked off committees and forcing actual votes from politicians instead of allowing voice votes by staffers.
Even a stopped clock.....
"Elon Musk says he "strongly supported Obama for President, but today's Democratic Party has been hijacked by extremists."
Took him long enough to figure that out.
"This vote asked President Biden to violate the 4th Amendment, seize private property, and determine where it would go – all without due process," AOC said in a statement.
Wait a minute - did AOC say there's such a thing as private property?
for her, certainly.
What enforcement powers would this Disinformation Governance Board have? I'd think it would have to be pretty toothless if it's going to pass a 1A challenge.
The mere existence of the board doesn't pass a First Amendment challenge.
I agree, but checks and balances don't exist anymore. The three branches operate on a policy of deference. It's just assumed that whatever they do is Constitutional because people in government are angels who would never do anything bad. Government actions must be challenged in court, and the burden of proof is not upon the government to show what enumerated power allows it to do what it is doing. No, the burden of proof is on those who claim that people in government aren't angels.
The mere existence of the board doesn't pass a First Amendment challenge.
^
Talk about "chilling effect."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764647/Elon-Musk-hints-hes-shifted-political-right-14-years.html
Elon Musk hints he's shifted to the right over last 14 years as liberals morphed into 'woke progressives': Twitter sees exodus of 'wokerati' since his $44B takeover with Kamala, AOC and Bernie losing thousands of followers
The picture is pretty funny. Worth a glance.
"shifted to the right" because he supports free speech.
I'm imagining that statement being made in 1987 anywhere in the media. Literally anywhere. What a fucking cesspool the media has become.
Try 2015.
I'm serious. 2015. Before the crybaby in chief started whining incessantly about "fake news" and then got his followers to believe the election was stolen, defining what is true or not true wasn't so much of an issue. Yet now we've got people disagreeing on basic facts in a way that I've never seen before. And it all happened in four short years.
Bullshit it started way before fucking Trump, asshat.
And I mean the right hasn't shifted but the left has been shifting further left since well before Trump. If anything, if you look at the polling on social issues, the right has even shifted left on most social issues.
There would be no Disinformation Governance Board if not for Trump. It is in direct response to him and his followers.
Really? It's now Trump's fault? Nothing to do with Clinton pushing the widely discredited Russia Hoax costing her the elections? The left has been wanting to create something like this since the 1990s, first it was to control talk radio and FNC, now it's the internet. I remember them calling for something like this board back when Rush was gaining an audience. You're smarter than this. Blaming Trump. Yeah, okay. I also remember Gore and Kerry calling for something similar to combat climate change "disinformation" during the Bush years, and several anti2A activists wanting to punish the NRA and other gun rights groups for disinformation as early as the 1980s. So, no, well before Trump.
This is aimed to silence a specific group of people. Trump and his supporters. Do you deny that? If not then you must concede that they had something to do with it.
It's aimed at anyone not toeing the far left line. It's aimed at both you and me, neither of whom voted for or supported Trump. It's aimed at anyone who steps out of line.
I still say that "The Steal" and COVID misinformation, mostly coming from the political right that is in the tank with Trump, were the straws that broke the camel's back.
Without that I doubt this Disinformation Governance Board would have come into existence at this time. Perhaps some time in the future in response to something else, but at this time I believe it is in response to idiocy from Trump and the far right.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
What COVID misinformation? Mostly what they've stated and was labeled misinformation is now widely accepted Truth. In fact, the left was far larger purveyors of false information. And no, they might use that as an excuse but they've desired this for decades and it is aimed at everyone. You're playing their game and deflecting blame by doing so.
Ivermectin, the vaccine is a hoax, things like that.
Ivermectin is utilized in several countries with promising results and is being studied in several other countries. You're a bit out of date. And the vaccine isn't nearly as effective and had been shown to have serious side effects for certain age groups. So not sure what you're trying to say they were wrong about.
Ivermectin is not a danger. Only 3 studies showed ivermectin wasn't helpful, the 3 cited by the cdc. All 3 were for ivermectin use when already hospitalized, not at early onset. It has the same effects as the Pfizer anti viral now being paid by taxpayers. That too is not intended for use on a hospital.
What the actual fuck. Youre just ignorant sarc.
Saec also blames the rape victim for having a skirt, and his alcoholism on his parents.
Of course they have something to do with it. But it's not just Trump and his supporters. Takes two to tango. The insane reaction to Trump and his supporters was a key part of it all. Trump didn't happen in isolation.
And much of the left was already moving in a more pro-censorship direction before 2015. Trump (as a phenomenon) and the reaction to Trump probably did kick it into high gear, though.
"Trump probably did kick it into high gear, though."
That's my point.
I would argue, Trump was more a product of the lefts censorship vibe than a causative agent. Trump was in response to such actions as labeling Romney a misogynist for having a file of qualified women and staying he wanted to put people back in chains. The constant need to silence the Tea Party and other right leaning groups and movements was what created Trump. They just stopped pretending after Trump.
I've got things to do so I'm signing off. Thanks for being civil. Later.
That's fair, I think. My main point is that all of these things are entwined and picking out one true cause is a fool's errand. The left's love of censorship is all on them. But it has played out the way it has for many reasons.
Oh, I agree it has multiple root causes and the growth of it can be traced back for decades as I stated.
Trump (as a phenomenon) and the reaction to Trump probably did kick it into high gear, though.
Uh-oh, Zeb. How dare you insinuate that the Disinformation Board is anything other than left-wing evil emanating from the bowels of the fascist corrupt left. According to some around here, that means you are defending the left and should be ashamed of yourself.
Fuck off and die bootlicker LyingJeffy. Never said that to anyone but you have earned it by being a fucking gas lighting, leftist bootlicker.
Fuck off and die authoritarian bootlicker Joe Friday. Now I'm up to two I've said that too.
Soldier, read the GOP led Senate Intel Comm report. It wasn't a Hoax. Cripes, talk about disinformation!
Fuck you are stupid. The Russians paid $100,000 on memes no one viewed, and there was no collusion and the entire investigation was started by the Clinton Campaign. So yes it was a fucking hoax you fucking idiot. Look it the fuck up before you make yourself look like the fucking idiot you are. You don't even fucking know the basic facts. But you still need to feel the need to repost long discredited talking points from the left. Fuck you are stupid.
The report that included alfa bank hoax and repeated the dnc server lies? Lol.
Also, have you forgotten the FCC and their fairness doctrine?
Almost, being that the fairness doctrine is dead and not coming back.
They just did it, with this board. It's the proverbial camels nose in the tent.
We'll see. I really hope it gets squashed on 1A grounds.
How the fuck so you manage to blame a board created solely by Democrats on Trump?
So fucking broken.
They shouldn't have *blank* if they didn't want to get *blank*.
Sarc claims he doesn't have TDS. Lol.
"Elon Musk hints he's shifted to the right over last 14 years"
It is pretty clear that his little stick figure in the image doesn't move at all and that the centrist (e.i. middle point) marker shifted over because the stick figure on the left ran further left. Someone moving away from you doesn't mean you yourself have moved. The writers of that article are straight up crazy.
Or they deliberately missed the point.
the picture doesn't show him shifting to the right.
It shows the left shifting away from teh center. These "journalists'" disingenuous descriptions of the image prove the point.
Not even sure if they know what they are saying.
Is it just me or do those two sentences contradict one another.
It's part and parcel of the current paradigm by which if you don't accept that there's no such thing as biological gender, you're the extremist.
"journalists"
The correct term is "urinalists".
"Never bring something to a fight you don't want shoved up your ass later." David C. Lowery, founder of bands Camper Van Beethoven and Cracker, has some words of wisdom for folks supporting the Biden administration's creepy new disinformation board, which will be a part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
This is a good weapon. I'm glad the Democrats are crafting it. It's needed. But one day, way down the road, the Republicans might be in charge of it. And we can't have that.
Camper van who?!!
Casper Van Dien.
Wait until Ron Desantis appoints Donald Trump Junior to run the board and see how these stalinists like it.
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@WIRED
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Platforms and governments aren't doing enough. It's time to act. Our national security and democracy are at stake.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/29/bidens-disinformation-chief-nina-jankowicz-online-gender-disinformation-of-kamala-harris-a-threat-to-democracy-and-national-security/
In the article, Jankowicz outlined tech companies and government should work together using “creativity and technological prowess to make a pariah of online misogyny.”
Social media companies, she argued should “make the shift toward believing women” allowing them to identify and censor content. Jankowicz also called for tech companies to stop “a tacit pile-on instruction” from influential people with a lot of online followers.
Jankowicz said online mockery of women was a threat to democracy, warning that “gender disinformation” could prevent women from running for office.
In September 2021, Jankowicz testified about “gender misinformation” being a threat to democracy in the British House of Parliament.
She cited Harris as an example:
I think of the little girls who were so happy on inauguration day, seeing our first female Vice-President inaugurated and, for those of them who are online, looking at the responses to tweets or Vice-President Harris’s Instagram posts, where people call the Biden-Harris Administration “Joe and the ho”, or worse. There is much worse, alleging that Vice-President Harris slept her way to the top.
During her testimony, she argued that “gender misinformation” was also a “national security concern.”
“It is not just a democratic concern; it is a national security concern, which should make it of interest to everybody in government,” she said. “It is not just about hurt feelings. It really affects the way our countries operate.”
Twitter is designed for tacit pile-on instructions from influential people though.
It was fairly clear from the fact that she wrote a book on her resentment of being questioned about her positions voiced in her first book that she views everything through the grievance lens. Irrational people should not be in positions of power and influence, crafting public policy and laws. Yet, it seems to be a goal of the left-leaning/progressive sociopolitical sphere to place as many as possible into exactly those positions.
"There is much worse, alleging that Vice-President Harris slept her way to the top."
If you don't want people to claim you slept your way to the top, you should start by not sleeping your way to the top.
She wasn't always on top...sometimes she was bent over or on her knees....which actually explains a lot about her politics.
There is much worse, alleging that Vice-President Harris slept her way to the top.
I'm not saying she slept her way to the top, but if she did sleep her way to the top, VP is pretty good for a woman who looks like she does.
*grumbles and boos from feminist audience*
What? You're saying an attractive woman can't sleep her way into the Presidency like Hillary almost did? Is there some sort of glass canopy? *You're* the sexists! Where's ENB? She'll defend me on this! Women should totally be able to sleep their way into the Presidency and feel no shame about it. Fuckin' spinster prudes, the lot of you!
Willie Brown's whore didn't sleep her way anywhere. She fucked Willie Brown to get on the first rung of the ladder of incompetence.
I don't object to prostitution per se, but Willie paying his whore with tax money pisses me off.
-jcr
Heels Up Harris did sleep her way up the ladder....starting with Uptown Willie Brown.
Truth hurts.
But lie about men as much as you want I guess. Fuck 'em, amirite ladies?
So we can get rid of Section 230 now, right? It's served its purpose and we no longer need the convoluted chain of secondary protection for favored/disfavored narratives to fuck us in the ass too, right?
Nah, that will be a step to far for Reason. No, they will now defend social media censorship by stating the board of disinformation has ruled this misinformation so Facebook et al are right to censor it.
And don't you dare try to sue them, because section 230 and muh private company.
No, they will now defend social media censorship by stating the board of disinformation has ruled this misinformation so Facebook et al are right to censor it.
Not Facebook. Your local butcher will be able to break a contract with impunity after discovering the event you asked him to cater isn't inclusive enough. Moderating/refusing service up front is too troublesome. If you want to hold your shitlord barbeque, raise and butcher your own livestock... as long as you don't birth them in farrowing crates.
"someone hurt my fweewings, thus national security and democracy itself are at stake"
Jesus christ, these fucking people.
It's the Karen regime. Get used to it.
Supporters of the ban are a bunch of power-mad, nanny state fucking fascists.
Any questions?
Elon Musk says he "strongly supported Obama for President, but today's Democratic Party has been hijacked by extremists."
No lies detected. He most straight-talking billionaire we have. We dont deserve him.
https://twitter.com/IronicEffort/status/1309908837911142402
Before she was a fierce feminist color revolution debunker, Nina Jankowicz sang erotic Harry Potter songs. I don’t use the word Renaissance Woman too often...
Democrat singing songs about sleeping with a 12 year old...
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GROOMERS! DISINFORMATION!
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Reason simping for AOC five seconds after bashing Ron DeSantis for telling Disney to go fuck itself. So predictable.
and is there a sunset on this bill?
Like within six months of it ending?
I am sure not so 25 years from now someone will have this used against them even when it will have nothing to do with their case other than they know some Russian dude in politics
More unforeseen consequences of the the Florida Governor and Legislature passing punitive legislation aimed at citizens criticizing the State, without holding hearings:
"The bond rating agency Fitch Rating, though, issued a new advisory Thursday that warns the Disney-DeSantis clash could have a profound impact on the borrowing ability of all Florida governments.
The idea that the state can so easily reach in and change the legal status of another government “heightens bondholder uncertainty,” Fitch warned, adding, it “could alter our view of Florida’s commitment to preserve bondholder rights and weaken our view of the operating environment for Florida governments.”
The governor and legislature ignored dealing with an insurance crisis in the state or the crisis in confidence in high rise beach construction in the state to fight unending cultural wars, and are using the state as a prop in DeSantis' presidential ambitions.
"This sets a risky new precedent in the event of future Presidents who may seek to abuse that expansion of power, especially with so many of our communities already fighting civil asset forfeiture." AOC. I would be impressed, if I didn't know that old saying about stopped clocks/twice a day.
If it takes one to know one, the 8 votes against are testimony to the existence of a dangerous looter Kleptocracy in Congress.
Pursuant to my right to free speech, I heartily invite Nina Jankowicz to go fuck herself sideways with a full-grown Saguaro.
-jcr
Wonder what AOC thinks of Fidel Castros asset seizures. It’s different because something something Marx something
Speaking of AOC/Marx here’s some fun facts about Marx, a racist and antisemite
https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/when-will-they-cancel-karl-marx-55c?s=w