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Inflation

Biden's Plan To Ease Gas Prices Will Save Drivers a Few Cents at Some Pumps…2 Months From Now

Plus: Why high inflation is getting more attention than low unemployment, how to make supply chains more resilient, and more...

Eric Boehm | 4.13.2022 9:30 AM

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President Joe Biden's latest gambit to combat high gas prices will save some drivers a few cents at the pump—two months from now. But consumers might not see much in the way of savings at all, since they'll be buying dirtier, less efficient fuel that will require more frequent fill-ups.

Biden on Tuesday said he will direct the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to issue an emergency waiver allowing so-called "E15" gasoline to be sold between June 1 and September 15, when it is usually prohibited due to concerns about how the fuel contributes to air pollution.

Most gasoline sold in the U.S. is blended with 10 percent ethanol, a type of alcohol made from corn, thanks to a mandate originally created during the George W. Bush administration. Higher blends—like "E15," which is 15 percent ethanol—are a bit cheaper, but they burn less cleanly and provide marginally less energy. Though originally pitched as an environmentally friendly alternative to supposedly dirtier fossil fuels, studies have shown that ethanol actually emits more greenhouse gases. Nevertheless, the federal government has spent years subsidizing the production of ethanol, in no small part because politically powerful agricultural lobbies are big fans of the stuff.

It also happens to be a bit cheaper than traditional gasoline, which is why the Biden administration is suddenly so keen on it. "E15 is about 10 cents a gallon cheaper," Biden said Tuesday as he announced the emergency environmental waiver while touring an ethanol production facility in Iowa. "And some gas stations offer an even bigger discount than that."

Yes, but that statement comes with several important caveats. As Biden admitted during his remarks, E15 fuel is only available "at a few thousand pumps today." The actual number is about 2,300 stations, most of them in the South and Midwest. Not to worry, though, as Biden also committed taxpayers to pay for $100 million in upgrades to biofuel infrastructure, according to NPR.

Even if you happen to have one of those E15 fueling stations on your street, Biden's emergency order won't affect anything until June 1. That's perhaps a tacit admission from the White House that prices are likely to remain high for months—and a telling illustration of how little power the president has to curb high prices and control inflation in the short term.

Tuesday's monthly consumer price index report showed that inflation has hit a 40-year high of 8.5 percent over the past 12 months. Inflation in fuel prices was a significant driver of overall price increases during March, and Biden dutifully blamed Russia's war in Ukraine for much of that. But the White House continues to ignore or downplay the role that its own policies—and, in fairness, the policies of the Trump administration—played in worsening inflation by overheating the economy, particularly the decision to throw more than $800 billion in "free" money at American households during the pandemic.

The only real "winner" in Biden's ethanol decision, Reuters points out, is "the U.S. corn lobby" since farmers will likely benefit from "expanding demand for corn-based ethanol" this summer.

"It's not going to solve all our problems," Biden said Tuesday of his emergency ethanol order. Indeed, it's not clear that it will solve any of them.


FREE MINDS

What matters more, inflation or unemployment?

University of Michigan economist and Brookings Institution senior fellow Justin Wolfers wonders why the media is treating 40-year-high inflation rates as a bigger story than 50-year-low unemployment rates.

Lotta headlines today about "inflation at 40-year high." We have a nice test of whether the media is symmetrically interested in good news because in the next month or so, it's likely that unemployment will hit a 50-year low. Will this attract as many breathless headlines?

— Justin Wolfers (@JustinWolfers) April 12, 2022

In one sense, he makes an interesting point. Inflation is not the only economic indicator out there, and right now workers are having an easy time finding jobs and seeing wages rising—as long as you don't look at inflation, which is turning those wage gains negative.

But there are a few answers to his question. First, bad news always gets more attention. Second, inflation hasn't been a major story for a good long while, and thus is more interesting than rote employment reports (even historically good employment reports). But probably most importantly, as Josh Barro writes in Very Serious, is that wages aren't rising fast enough to counter inflation, which leaves even employed workers feeling like they are falling behind:

The unfortunate story here is that, while the tight labor market was supposed to do two very good things, it actually only did one of them. The good thing it did was make it easier than usual to find work, especially for people on the margins of society who tend to have the most difficulty finding a job at all. That's great. But the other thing a lot of people expected—I expected—was that a tight job situation would tend to force wages to rise faster than prices, with workers capturing a larger share of total economic output as income. And that's not happening; the opposite is happening.


FREE MARKETS

Dismantling global supply chains does not make them more resilient. In fact, as a new report from the International Monetary Fund makes clear, the opposite is true.

Reuters reports:

"Dismantling global value chains is not the answer. More diversification, not less, improves resilience," the researchers wrote in a blog post accompanying the chapter.

Simulating a lockdown akin to those in China in early 2020, the researchers said by that reducing labor supply by 25 percent in a single large supplier of intermediate components, the average economy's output fell by around 0.8 percent.

But with higher diversification among source countries, the decline would be reduced by about half, to about 0.4 percent.

Even in scenarios where there are shocks to multiple countries, high source diversification reduces the level of GDP decline by about 5 percent.


QUICK HITS

• Police in New York are looking for a 62-year-old man, Frank R. James, who has been named a "person of interest" in Monday's Brooklyn subway shooting that left 23 injured.

• In China, other cities might soon be joining Shanghai under strict COVID lockdown—though it is notable that Shanghai's draconian rules don't seem to be preventing case numbers from spiking:

'Does anyone have antipyretic medicine?' Shanghai mother of young child asks for neighbors' help at 2.30am. She says her baby has a 40°C fever and she needs fever reducing medicine. Locked down, drugstores closed, access to urgent care services severely limited. pic.twitter.com/ekjbQ7lkyO

— Manya Koetse (@manyapan) April 12, 2022

• Perhaps unsurprisingly, people are fleeing Hong Kong in even larger volumes than usual now that another COVID wave is striking China:

Covid-19: Since the outbreak of the fifth wave, Hong Kong has seen a net outflow of 147,324 residents, meaning that there were more people leaving than entering the city: https://t.co/WpdsOb7pfv. Official data shows a significant uptick from the end of Jan. pic.twitter.com/vn2elsn0Dg

— Hong Kong Free Press HKFP (@hkfp) April 13, 2022

• It's not just you: Everything really has gotten stupider.

• A Twitter shareholder is suing Elon Musk, who is now the social media company's largest shareholder, based on allegations that Musk failed to disclose that he owned more than 5 percent of the company before acquiring more shares in recent weeks.

• A lawsuit alleges that this Texas prosecutor spend years writing rulings for the judge who was hearing his cases—and getting paid to do it.

Thread: For 20 years, prosecutor Ralph Petty secretly worked for the judges who decided his cases. At night, he'd write rulings in favor of…himself.

He even sent someone to death row. And now, someone is finally trying to hold him to account. My latest: https://t.co/wPEbXU1TFB

— Billy Binion (@billybinion) April 12, 2022

• Drone delivery is the future, but will it ever be the present? Not yet.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    President Joe Biden's latest gambit to combat high gas prices will save some drivers a few cents at the pump—two months from now.

    Two months closer to the election.

    1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

      How much will Biden's "latest gambit" save drivers when they get to the grocery store to buy corn?

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        And beef.

        1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          And tortillas.

          Or even bread because off all the corn planted instead of wheat or other grains.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Flour tortillas are better anyways.

      2. Vexatious   3 years ago

        It saves nothing. Fuel economy will drop, erasing any “savings”. We need to get off ethanol. Not increase it’s use.

        Another democrat failure in the making.

    2. Minadin   3 years ago

      I don't think that 2 months is even accurate. Corn has a growing season - you can't just ramp up production overnight - and early planting is just getting started in much of the country. Harvest won't be until August. Then you have to process it into ethanol. Then you have to blend it with gasoline.

    3. Griffin3   3 years ago

      I don't even know where to start with this retarded idea.

        • E15 might be 10 cents cheaper (2.5%), but it has 3.3% less energy in it (13 cents). Go ahead, do the math: ethanol has 66% as much energy as gasoline per gallon, and we are adding 5% more of it.*
        • How much ethanol is in the pipeline? The gasoline side of it is fine: just don't change your mixes back from "winter" gasoline. But towards August or July, we are going to run low on alcohol. And how much farther will this screw with the already bizarre incentives around corn and ethanol?
        • Study: New E15 gas can ruin auto engines. Causes gummed up fuel systems and O2 sensors, computers to throw fault codes, eats up even some neoprene gaskets. Of course, this largely applies to cars produced before about 2012, which I'm sure the administration wants to run off the road anyway. But this is a big screw-you-guys to everyone driving a car over 10 years old, when the average age of car on the American road is 12.1 years in 2021.**

        *Just for personal information, if normal E10 gas is $4.00/gallon, then pure gasoline is "worth it" at $0.26 more. There is a station in Atmore that sells pure gas for $0.15 more, so, shweet!

        ** Right now my family has 7 cars in great working order made before 2008, and one 2014. Luckily, so far in West Florida, no one has ever sold this E15 crap, summer or ever. In fact, some of the Citgo stations have been selling P98 at pretty much the same price as everyone else - I dunno if there is ethanol shortage at times, or what, but I am surely appreciating it.

      1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

        One also needs to factor in the damage to seals and gaskets that happens when ethanol is used, and/or the additional cost of using a fuel additive in hopes of preventing expensive maintenance costs further down the road. Pun intended.

      2. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

        Yep. Just ahead of another electric vehicle push, no doubt. Ones that come with biometric sensors to detect drunk drivers and...

        1. Vexatious   3 years ago

          Better to have a push to remove democrats.

      3. Vexatious   3 years ago

        I won’t put that shit in any of my vehicles. Instead of doing this, just prevent democrats from driving. Since they voted for gasoline scarcity, it’s their fault anyway.

    4. Yatusabes   3 years ago

      Im not a betting man, but now might be a good time to take bets on what Biden’s poll numbers will look like come November.

      CNBC All-America Economic Survey: Biden’s approval rating shrinks to lowest level since presidency began
      https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/04/13/cnbc-all-america-economic-survey-bidens-approval-rating-shrinks-to-lowest-level-since-presidency-began.html

      Approve: 38%
      Disapprove 53%
      Spread -15%

      Let’s Go Brandon!

      1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

        Google, how many days to midterm elections?

        Google says, "In 209 days."

  2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    Biden is a total failure

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Fuck Joe Biden

      1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

        Fuck Joe Biden

        1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

          Let's go Brandon!

    2. perlmonger   3 years ago

      And it's not even half over.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    ...it is usually prohibited due to concerns about how the fuel contributes to air pollution.

    So I guess Mother Gaia can go fuck herself now.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Just like all the paper plates and plastic forks for the last two years.

    2. Eeyore   3 years ago

      Gaia is still happy. We are saving 2c off the next $1 increase. So we will still be paying 98c more.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Trees don't vote.

      1. Rich   3 years ago

        Bingo.

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Yet.

      3. R Mac   3 years ago

        What if they identify as a dead Democrat?

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

        2. Vexatious   3 years ago

          I ide tofu as an electoral majority that voted Trump in.

          1. Vexatious   3 years ago

            Let’s try that again….

            I identify as an electoral majority that all voted for Trump.

    4. Cronut   3 years ago

      First of all, it's Birthing Person Gaia, you fucking bigot.

      And yes, she can got fuck herself until November 9th at the earliest.

  4. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    Perhaps unsurprisingly, people are fleeing Hong Kong in even larger volumes than usual now that another COVID wave is striking China:

    Charge them with desertion.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Not to worry, though, as Biden also committed taxpayers to pay for $100 million in upgrades to biofuel infrastructure...

    Endgame revealed.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Why isn’t that money going to EV infrastructure?

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Biden hates Tesla.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Well, Musk might be alt-right. Or worse, a libertarian.

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Batteries require nickel from Russia.

  6. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "Police in New York are looking for a 62-year-old man, Frank R. James, who has been named a 'person of interest' in Monday's Brooklyn subway shooting that left 23 injured."

    I hope they find the shooter.

    But as a Koch / Soros / Reason soft-on-crime #FreeTheCriminals and #EmptyThePrisons libertarian, I cannot support a prison sentence longer than a couple months.

    #CheapLaborAboveAll

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      If he's not out within 24 hours under NYC's anti-bail rules, it's just more evidence that we live in an irredeemably white supremacist society.

    2. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      Furthermore, I learned in college that gun violence in Democrat-controlled cities and states is always the fault of Republicans in neighboring states. Which means the problem will be solved once the Koch / Reason open borders agenda imports enough Democratic voters to make every state as Democratic as California.

      #LibertariansFor50Californias

    3. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Mr James met with the FBI as recently as last year. Are we sure this isn't another FBI plot?

      1. Nardz   3 years ago

        He was in a packed subway car with a captive audience and no resistance.
        Nobody died.
        Draw your own conclusions.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   3 years ago

          They ID'd by a credit card and keys to a rental van he left behind. A totally credible story.

          1. American Mongrel   3 years ago

            Seriously. What the fuck are covering up? Don't know what they're lying about but I'm 100% sure they are lying.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    University of Michigan economist and Brookings Institution senior fellow Justin Wolfers wonders why the media is treating 40-year-high inflation rates as a bigger story than 50-year-low unemployment rates.

    Because maybe people don't like toiling away their days to bring home less purchasing power.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      Also.... what is that labor participation rate again?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Work is racist!

        1. Anomalous   3 years ago

          Au contraire...work makes us free.

      2. Jerryskids   3 years ago

        The labor participation rate is lower now because people are no longer needing to work two or three jobs just to make ends meet.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          This comment brought to you by AOC. When you are an idiot just ramble incoherently with confidence to exude an air of knowing things.

        2. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

          Wait, I thought people working 2 or 3 jobs was the reason the unemployment rate was down

      3. Griffin3   3 years ago

        Exactly. The labor participation rate is down 2% over the pandemic, and down fully 5% since the start of the money handout crisis in 2008. So that's 7.5 million more people, since 2008, that don't see the need to work. Have wages miraculously gone up? Have fewer people had to work to support the family? No, we would have heard about this in all the newspapers.

        What has happened is $5 trillion + dollars of government handouts, as even the New York Times will admit. There are still billions of dollars being paid out in unemployment, rental assistance, childcare assistance, food giveaways, student loan forbearance, every other handout you can imagine. When the government will give out a tablet and 5 years' free internet to anyone who can fog a mirror, why the hell would these people ever want to go back to work?

    2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

      Am curious as to how the virus impacted the figures he's referring to. His followers seem a bit on the rabidly left-leaning side, so my guess is that the numbers are bs.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        There are roughly 2 million less working adults still than 2019.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Progress!

        2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          Lots of people decided retirement looked really appealing during the months of 2020 lockdowns.

        3. Minadin   3 years ago

          They all died of Covid. Probably.

        4. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

          We 'know' this, but I couldn't suss out where he got his 'data' from.

    3. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      It's because I simply don't believe there's low unemployment when 80% of businesses I drive past still have "Hiring! Open Interviews Wednesday all-day" signs up.

      I absolutely don't trust whatever formula they are using to calculate unemployment because there's no doubt in my mind BLS would skew numbers to make it look favorable to this administration. And they can't hide that Labor Participation is still well below where we were pre-pandemic.

      1. Weigel's Cock Ring   3 years ago

        Also, a big part what's going on is that many of these "jobs" people are taking now, especially among the younger generations, consists of things like trading crypto or making lots of videos on YouTube or Twitch ("content creators").

        While it's certainly possible to scratch out a living this way, especially if someone is very good at it, I think it's very questionable as to whether it's a positive trend. Because we all know damn well that these "jobs" provide nowhere near the same amount of real value to the economy and to society as say, a truck driver, or even a store clerk.

        Can we really sustain the kind of modem society most of us are accustomed to over the long run with an entire generation doing nothing but making YouTube videos? I seriously doubt it

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

          With you there. At some point the older gens will retire and the kids will have to get, gather or make the stuff they use themselves. Unless they are 3D printing everything by then. It is not an inspiring future.

      2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

        There's this, and the number of shuttered businesses, permanently closed restaurants, places only open for phone/internet order, that make me think that the claims of low unemployment are pure propaganda.

      3. Cronut   3 years ago

        There's "unemployment" and there's unemployment.

        Everywhere I go is short staffed. A ton of businesses are open fewer hours. A lot of them have signs on their doors, essentially saying, "Give us a break, we're short staffed and doing our best."

        One silver lining is, a lot of the places that used to be staffed by adults have a lot of teenaged faces there now, at least in my area. Kids are getting jobs.

        1. Vexatious   3 years ago

          A friend’s daughter got hired at 15. That’s usually hard to do, given how restrictive WA State is labor rules for those under 16. But some businesses had no other choice. Yet there are plenty of adults around who refuse to work.

        2. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

          Yeah, everywhere is short-staffed. There's a couple of freaking Waffle Houses that I know that can't keep enough people to stay open 24/7 anymore. But then again, you do have to live up to the restrictive hiring standards of a Waffle House.

          1. perlmonger   3 years ago

            Aren't all of these stores about places with not enough employees exactly what you would expect to see if there wasn't anyone to hire? I get that the labor participation rate is down, but isn't that what a low unemployment rate means? That there's nobody available?

  8. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    Frank R. James

    Sounds like an alias.

    1. Rich   3 years ago

      "Toiz R. Uhss"

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      R definitely stands for rick.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    More diversification, not less, improves resilience...

    This doesn't sound like a China-approved message, either.

  10. Cyto   3 years ago

    Today in propaganda….

    NBC Today teased their upcoming story…”the New York Subway attack…. what do we know about possible motives?”

    They come back from break and do a little setup then toss to a live stand up from NYC. “We don’t know for sure what mY have motivated this attack, but officials say the attacker may have made social media posts critical of the Mayor of New York”

    End of story. That is it. Nobody knows. But he probably is motivated by being against democrats, so…. well, you know……

    Did not feature images of attacker, suspect, race…. none of that. In fact, watching the video you would think the attacker is some bald headed white dude who was fleeing toward the camera.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      Meanwhile, if the alt media is to be believed, he has an extensive and quite racist social media presence, similar to the perpetrator of the Waukesha massacre.

      https://thepostmillennial.com/person-of-interest-in-nyc-subway-attack-had-social-media-filled-with-black-nationalism-and-hate

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Really? A hate filled person stated shooting other people? No way.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Get woke! Hate, like bullets, only flows in specific directions that we can understand based on intersectionality. Only white people induce hate, and only white people fire bullets. In this case they literally sucked those shots out of the gun held by the oppressed victim.

          1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

            He was forced into it.
            I call entrapment.

          2. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

            Yep. The guy deserves an award for leaving as fast as he did, thus preventing other white racists from sucking additional bullets into themselves.

          3. R Mac   3 years ago

            In this case it looks like a lot of the white racists were the Asian kind.

            1. VULGAR MADMAN   3 years ago

              Asian is close enough to white.

              1. Vexatious   3 years ago

                A subset of honkies.

                1. perlmonger   3 years ago

                  Subhonkies?

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Do you have a notarized blm membership card?

      3. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

        "It was also revealed that surveillance cameras at the subway station were not operational at the time of the shooting."
        -------
        Huh.

        1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

          Man, what are the odds that the shooter would attack the one subway station where the surveillance cameras weren't working?

          Say what now?

          1. Cyto   3 years ago

            Think there are any FBI informants involved?

            1. American Mongrel   3 years ago

              I'd take the over.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Come on. Race is only relevant when the shooter is an angry white male who hates gays and/or blacks--or at least one time forwarded some Facebook post that might have been contrary to progressive doctrine.

      Black shooters in subways get the same cautious treatment as black SUV drivers at parades. Thus reporters and editors demonstrate the kind of reserve we expect from serious media.

      1. Cyto   3 years ago

        I put this to the test.

        As an experiment, I asked the kids in the middle school carpool if they knew about a mass killing at a Christmas parade. They did not. I asked if they knew about someone running 60 people down with an suv at a parade…. nope.

        Propaganda works.

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          Keep this in mind when someone tries to use polls that show low trust in media as evidence that their propaganda doesn’t really effect many people.

      2. JesseAz   3 years ago

        The red suv was responsible sir. The black driver had no control.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Correct. Our flawless media has told me that evil SUVs are the result of capitalist white greed.

        2. Griffin3   3 years ago

          They are fighting back against the SUVs:
          SUV Flat Tire Challenge
          Me, I was so giggly at the idea of a bunch of brainless white liberal kids running around and flattening each other's parent's SUV tires, I had to sit in a dark room for a while ...

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Lol. I wish I could catch one of them fucking with my truck.

            1. Vexatious   3 years ago

              That would be fun. I wonder how fast they would change from being little smart assess to begging for mercy?

              1. perlmonger   3 years ago

                Not fast enough.

    3. Nardz   3 years ago

      https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1514239112814993411?t=8QUt7AAedn41TVNlhOrmFw&s=19

      So Frank James was able to post about killing people based on racial animosity for years on FB but people get suspended for posting Fauci memes

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        That's how equity works.

      2. Weigel's Cock Ring   3 years ago

        I would love to see all the shooting victims join together and sue Facebook and their entire board of directors for negligence, endangerment, fraud, and violating their own terms of service.

        The only way to rein in these bastards is to think outside the box, get creative, and go after them hard.

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          Probably won't work.
          Section 230 and all.
          But decorating the streets with exec and staff corpses might.

      3. Vexatious   3 years ago

        But what of his brother Jesse? Is he getting the gang together to bust Frank out?

      4. perlmonger   3 years ago

        Or talking about the BLM real estate portfolio.

    4. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      They are just spinning their wheels until they have enough information to make this Trump's fault.

      1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

        They have never before needed information to make it Trump's fault - - - - -

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Trump caused the discourse of this man even before he was president. This guy obviously watched The Apprentice.

          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

            The logic will look something like this.

            The subway is in NYC
            Trump Tower is in NY
            Trump once rode on the subway
            The shooter hated Trump
            Ergo Trump caused the shooting

          2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

            At least somebody watched it. Dude, flip the channel.

    5. Nardz   3 years ago

      https://twitter.com/NuanceBro/status/1514053452829179904?t=VwZAMpv4lIJJGOrefmG1hg&s=19

      NYC subway shooter in a drunk rant he posted on YouTube almost a month ago talking about how white people and black people should have no contact with each other and that white people are angry that black people are no longer slaves

      [Link]

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        watching Joy Reid has consequences for simple minded folks

    6. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      Did they mention the arrest of Brian Benjamin? His party? His People of Color status?
      Is Anne Applebaum disinterested?

  11. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "In China, other cities might soon be joining Shanghai under strict COVID lockdown—though it is notable that Shanghai's draconian rules don't seem to be preventing case numbers from spiking"

    Before his incomprehensible switch to the painfully unfunny "Ali Akbar" character, I recall American Socia1ist pointed to China as the model for effective #TrumpVirus response. I wonder what he'd say about this.

    #LibertariansAgainstSinophobia

  12. Weigel's Cock Ring   3 years ago

    Why am I not the least bit surprised that the subway attacker is a whitey-hatin' low level Block Yomomna foot soldier? Or that this worthless piece of garbage was on the FBI's radar three years ago, but naturally they couldn't do anything to stop him?

    Oh well. Too bad Park Slope Welchie Boy couldn't have been there at the station.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Look, the FBI already has enough on its hands tracking down grannies who trespassed on January 6, intimidating parents who show up at schoolboard meetings, and investigating garage door pull sightings. They can't just go investigate every violent mass shooter that gets reported to them.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      What I find odd is the guy shot 33 times into a crowd of people and no one died.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Mostly peaceful then.

      2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Held the gun sideways.

      3. Longtobefree   3 years ago

        Shoots like a trained cop -

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

          Deathstar Stormtrooper?

        2. R Mac   3 years ago

          No dogs in the subway?

      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        The glowies didn't make sure he had enough range time before turning him loose.

      5. Griffin3   3 years ago

        One data point says a .380 automatic isn't even worthy of discussion in the 9mm vs. .40 debate.

      6. perlmonger   3 years ago

        Glock fucked his shooting spree with their nomenclature. See dude went in and asked for a "Glock 40". Because he wanted a Glock model 22, which is chambered in .40 S&W. But he got a Glock model 40... which is chambered in .22 LR.

        And that's how you shoot 23 people in a subway car without managing to kill any of them.

  13. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "University of Michigan economist and Brookings Institution senior fellow Justin Wolfers wonders why the media is treating 40-year-high inflation rates as a bigger story than 50-year-low unemployment rates."

    If anything, media will continue to tell us how "work" is unfair, how unhappy most people are with their jobs--and paychecks, and why we need some form of UBI. To them, record employment is just another indicator of the failure of capitalism.

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      It's not record employment when more people were employed in 2019.

    2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      Maybe because the unemployment rate is manipulated to say what they want while the inflation rate, though manipulatable, has real individual impact.

  14. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

    It's not just you: Everything really has gotten stupider.

    But enough about bohem and reason. Com

  15. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

    Bohem : you should vote biden
    Bohem: look the imf agrees with me and we should pay attention to them
    Bohem: why do people call me an antilibritarian, totalitarian cock sucker?

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      People like Boehm are just as guilty as Biden is.
      There cannot be peace; there must be consequences.

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      "Who do you plan to vote for this year?"
      "I will vote strategically and reluctantly for Biden."
      "If you could change any vote you cast in the past, what would it be?"
      "I can't imagine thinking a single vote is valuable enough to spend time regretting."
      - Eric Boehm

      https://reason.com/2020/10/12/how-will-reason-staffers-vote-in-2020/

  16. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    "What matters more, inflation or unemployment?"

    Neither.

    Reason's leading economics expert cites two crucial metrics when proving the current Democratic President is responsible for the best economy ever — rig count (now that Biden is in office) and the Warren Buffett Net Worth Index (throughout Obama's 8 years).

    #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      The WBNWI is plus $17.6 billion already for 2022.

      #VoteDemocratToHelpWarrenBuffett

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      The spittin tobaccy / rig count ratio is the smart person’s economic metric during the Biden boom times.

    3. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Rig count only compared to 2020 using permits granted at the end of 2021.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        This! For goodness sake, don't compare to pre-pandemic figures, because reasons.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Police in New York are looking for a 62-year-old man, Frank R. James, who has been named a "person of interest" in Monday's Brooklyn subway shooting...

    This story seems to be moving out of the news cycle.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      This morning they changed it to "suspect". NBC did a live stand up. Unlike their earlier report, they showed his picture.

      No mention of race or motive though. Actually, they said there was no word on possible motive.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        He was giving out gifts.
        He was demonstrating gun safety.
        Just goofing around.
        Shooting at a spider.
        Trying to stop Covid.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Ethnic dance.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            Cultural gun fights.

      2. JimboJr   3 years ago

        Motive: white supremacy

        Got it!

  18. Rich   3 years ago

    ethanol actually emits more greenhouse gases.

    The *good* kind of greenhouse gases, though.

    1. Not Robbers=Nut Rubbers   3 years ago

      They smell like hot buttered popcorn?

      1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

        Great. That song'll be stuck in my head all week.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    ...hough it is notable that Shanghai's draconian rules don't seem to be preventing case numbers from spiking...

    I am not sure that's the point.

  20. Rich   3 years ago

    "E15 is about 10 cents a gallon cheaper," Biden said Tuesday as he announced the emergency environmental waiver

    Oh, FFS! *Water* is about *3 dollars* a gallon cheaper!

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      The government stopped water engine research for automobiles in the 80s you know. Totally not an urban legend.

    2. American Mongrel   3 years ago

      Wait... is e85 85% ethanol? I've never heard of e15 before.

      1. perlmonger   3 years ago

        Yes, E85 is 85% ethanol. E10 is the most common "winter blend" variety, though yes, sadly, some places have gone to E15 because they hate goodness and freedom.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Perhaps unsurprisingly, people are fleeing Hong Kong in even larger volumes than usual now that another COVID wave is striking China...

    People have been trained perhaps too well over the past two years.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Somebody was paying attention.

      Where's Fiona? Can't we open the gates for these motivated people? (And can't we arrange an exchange for some COVID panic-prone Americans who would love to be locked up for a few more months?)

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Jokes aside, people fleeing Hong Kong would be a benefit to us.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          So would decreasing our urban elites.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            I’m good with both.

          2. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

            We need more subway shootings.

            Too soon?

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              The elites don’t ride the subway. Although many of the useful idiots do.

              1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                How do humanity's betters leave Manhattan for the airport? Helicopter rides?

                1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

                  They take limos. Or get the car they never drive out of the parking garage.

                2. R Mac   3 years ago

                  Drivers.

    2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      It’s very odd, personally, reading the news from Hong Kong, because I interact with my in-laws there everyday on Facebook.

      But we are just exchanging Wordle scores and such. Never a hint anything there is wrong. Don’t know if they are personally affected or just afraid to say what they think.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        You've said previously your wife was black... how many minorities did you marry?

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          And before you scream racism, African doesn't even make the census cut for Hong Kong.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Hong_Kong

        2. R Mac   3 years ago

          Lol, she did.

        3. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          As many as Mike needs for his stories.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

        I'm beginning to wonder if anyone is getting reliable information from the region.

        1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          It weird. My in-laws range from a well-to-do banker, who have a life of going out to eat and Disneyland (don’t forget in the middle of all this oppression, there’s a freegin’ Disneyland there — how weird is that.) to poorer and living in what I think is a (small) subsidized apartment.

          It’s the upper middle class banker I swap Wordle scores with every day. Funny thing there is he lives in my “tomorrow”, so he’s always posting what is the next day’s Wordle in my reality.

          I’m afraid to post anything that might get them in trouble, even if I’m the one saying it.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Tell us more about your wordle Dee.

          2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            "I’m afraid to post anything that might get them in trouble, even if I’m the one saying it."

            Don't worry, given that they're imaginary, and, like your Black wife, invented for narrative, they should be able to escape detection.

            1. Vexatious   3 years ago

              You never know. I’m sure Winnie the Xi is on the case.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    It's not just you: Everything really has gotten stupider.

    Yes, but unlike me they've gotten willfully stupider.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A Twitter shareholder is suing Elon Musk...

    I mean, what else could he do?

    1. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

      #RESIST

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      No standing.

      1. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

        Look, the announcement of Elon's purchase made them a lot of money so that's an unforgivable economic harn.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Tweet about his personal anguish?

    4. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Moot.

  24. Rich   3 years ago

    a "person of interest" in Monday's Brooklyn subway shooting

    should be whoever is responsible for the surveillance cameras being off at the time.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Luckily 1984 didn’t take bureaucratic incompetence into account.

  25. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A lawsuit alleges that this Texas prosecutor spend years writing rulings for the judge who was hearing his cases—and getting paid to do it.

    Hopefully the no consequences is enough of a deterrent.

  26. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/chillin12342/status/1514093907264614403?t=eQaxNAClwZOg1e-9CRARhg&s=19

    And today’s winner is who ever did this

    [Meme]

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      OK, I admit it. I don't get it.

      What is that about? Why a seagull?

      Is this like Aleppo? Am I gonna be labeled as unbelievably out if touch.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        That makes two of us.

      2. Nardz   3 years ago

        Omens are real.

        https://summit.news/2022/04/13/video-bird-shits-on-biden-and-white-house-wont-even-admit-it-happened/

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1514244415136702465?t=F7XdVSLpBGYdD6O7J0blKA&s=19

          WATCH: Multiple camera angles captured President Biden receiving a 'gift from above' during his Tuesday speech in Iowa, Eric Bolling reported on "The Balance."

          [Video]

          1. rbike   3 years ago

            Even the birds in Iowa know where to sh!t. Great to state to be from and to live in.

          2. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

            Birds do it, bees do it
            Even educated fleas do it
            Let's do it, let's shit on Joe.

            1. Vexatious   3 years ago

              SQRLSY approves that message.

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                Sqrlsy would lick it right off Joe’s jacket.

        2. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

          It's Corn-Pop's revenge!

        3. JesseAz   3 years ago

          It was newly generically modified corn shitting kernels.

  27. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Drone delivery is the future, but will it ever be the present?

    I hate having to go get the drone myself.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Join the metaverse! Once you leave your meatspace body behind on a cot, it's physical needs will be handled by your Roomba.

    2. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

      I know he was a boomer, but maybe Dr. Leary was right.

      Turn on, Tune In and Drop out

      Turn On - activate your neural and genetic equipment, in other words, use your mind and body, explore your mind and body.
      Tune In - interact harmoniously with the world around you, in other words, live and be peaceful, explore yourself and others peacefully.
      Drop Out - take an active, selective and graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments, in other words, leave what makes you unhappy or what prevents you from exploring yourself fully and instead seek what brings you peace.

      Sounds very Zen Z

  28. TJJ2000   3 years ago

    Geeeezzzzzzzz.... Did people forget already how much Government subsidies went into E85???? It was going to save the planet.....

    Seems *ALL* Propaganda B.S. uses the word 'environment'.
    Yes, Nope, Yes, Nope --- So long as there's an excuse for MORE THEFT!!!
    Global Cooling, Global Warming, Climate Changing......

    It's baffling so many people buy into such a flake of a ?science?
    It's quite obvious the only thing NOT Flaky is building a Nazi-Regime.

    "The essence of the argument that we need more, not less, ethanol in our gas tanks is linked to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s upcoming mid-term review of President Obama’s fuel economy standards, established in 2012. Ethanol boosters say now is the time to ramp up the ethanol/gasoline blend to 30 percent because it will reduce harmful particulate pollution, improve gas mileage, and lower gas prices."

    "The research, which was funded in part by the National Wildlife Federation and U.S. Department of Energy, found that ethanol is likely at least 24% more carbon-intensive than gasoline due to emissions resulting from land use changes to grow corn, along with processing and combustion."

    "A 2019 study from the USDA, which has been broadly cited by the biofuel industry, found that ethanol’s carbon intensity was 39% lower than gasoline, in part because of carbon sequestration associated with planting new cropland."

    1. TJJ2000   3 years ago

      I mean good grief event this article itself CONTRADICTS itself. Ethanol is massively subsidized but ?cheaper? than gas??
      Let me guess; Gov-Guns out STEALING from people makes it cheaper?

    2. Longtobefree   3 years ago

      " . . . now is the time to ramp up the ethanol/gasoline blend to 30 percent because it will reduce harmful particulate pollution, improve gas mileage, and lower gas prices."

      Destroy engines, General; don't forget it will destroy engines.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        And after Biden’s ethanol increase ruins your engine, you can go ahead and buy an EV.

        1. TJJ2000   3 years ago

          Code named for a bicycle with a solar panel on it.
          Because lets pull those comparisons... a XC90 gas runs 262hp and it's duplicate EV version runs at 65hp.

          1. TJJ2000   3 years ago

            .....And never-mind that charging an EV in the "green energy" state of CA is going to cost MORE than gasoline even at today's prices.

      2. TJJ2000   3 years ago

        Never true-er than Obama's Diesel mandates; Stranded fire-trucks and ambulances, trucks that burn themselves to the ground unattended (never-mind the pollution that put out), and wheel loaders that broke down every day and ran spontaneously.

        Ya; it's been a 1st-hand D.C. handed down B.S. Nazi dictation story through and through by Power-Mad dictators who know nothing about anything (even the USA; Constitution of which their job is entirely encompassed by) nothing but imbecilic, childish and naive Gang-Land politics (king of the mountain) game of pushing people around and an astonishingly amount of arrogance....

    3. Cyto   3 years ago

      Improve gas mileage?

      What in the ever-loving hell?

      Ethanol contains way less energy per volume than gasoline. It can only reduce your mileage.

      It is good for high compression applications... like running high boost turbos and longer stroke cranks. But that ain't helping in your stock 4 banger Accord.

      1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

        Ethanol contains way less energy per volume than gasoline. It can only reduce your mileage.

        To be fair though, it costs more to produce, while simultaneously reducing the food supply.

        1. Cyto   3 years ago

          Win-win!

          Weren't we worried about a coming food shortage?

          Diverting food to fuel production seems like a brilliant idea that will surely avert the coming food crisis!

    4. D-Pizzle   3 years ago

      Carbon sequestration is not a thing when the intent is to also burn the replacement crops. You cannot assess carbon sequestration with a "snapshot in time" approach.

      1. perlmonger   3 years ago

        I guess the idea with something like E85 is that at least you aren't digging up new carbon? I dunno. I agree it doesn't make much sense.

  29. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/aimeeterese/status/1514212315994165250?t=wRFDGHMpOjG-djslOpNrSw&s=19

    More than anything I trust people who can see through bullshit, and aren't easily caught in the saccharin sweet spiders web of glib charm spun by liberal narcissists. Anyone incapable of setting and holding firm boundaries, against these monsters will invariably let you down.

  30. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    South Carolina 'serial rapist', 19, whose dad works for DA gets PROBATION for 'sexually' assaulting pastor's daughter: Second 'rape victim' died, with third rape charge dismissed
    Relatives of 19-year-old Bowen Turner's victims said he was merely given a slap on the wrist by Orangeburg County Judge Markley Dennis
    Turner, initially charged with sexual misconduct, entered a plea deal with the prosecution on Friday and was convicted of assault and battery
    Because he was a juvenile at the time he attacked Chloe Bess at a house party in 2019, Turner will not have to register as a sex offender
    At the time he attacked Bess, Turner was on bond for allegedly raping and beating 18-year-old Dallas Hayer Stoller in October 2018
    Turner's criminal record will likely be expunged despite his over 50 house arrest violations, Sarah Ford, an attorney for Bess and Stoller's family, said

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10712569/South-Carolina-serial-rapist-19-handed-PROBATION-thanks-plea-deal.html

    We've got a two-tiered "justice" system. One for cops and family of those within the system where they're treated as innocent until proven guilty with no reasonable doubt. And one where they're treated as guilty until coerced into a plea bargain by overcharging, withholding and fabricating evidence, and fabricating police reports.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      So no cops family in J6?

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        They should make sure he didn't watch trumps speech on j6.

    2. Vexatious   3 years ago

      The victim’s families should deal with both father and son themselves.

  31. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    I thought we had low unemployment because half of America engaged in "The Great Quit-Out" and went off to be SoundCloud EDM musicians or something.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Podcasters.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Influencers.

        1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

          Stoners

          1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

            Coders. No, wait.

  32. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

    Haidt really has a problem with calling out shitty behavior by his in-group. His examples of 'structural stupidity' are a sad demonstration of this. Yes, the rights has its share of folks who adhere to some out there beliefs, and he lists a few. The left has at least as many, often shared, for example vaccines, government monitoring of private affairs, or technology is concerned. Haidt chooses to instead claim that in a struggle for control between the vocal progressive groups and the moderate groups on the left, the moderates win, and discusses the left's control of education, news media, entertainment- which he terms culture. This is a poor compare and contrast, akin to comparing leprosy to the rhinovirus.

    1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

      There is no moderate left. None at all.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        That's not true. There is a moderate left. In fact, despite the right-wing, Hitler-like ramblings of my comments, most of the people I follow closely, read, listen to etc., are all self-described members of the left. I would disagree with most of them on mundane issues of economics (many support high minimum wage laws, comprehensive and/or universal healthcare, more stringent regulation of business). But almost all of the people I follow are considered left/liberal. The kick is almost ALL of those people I follow have found themselves rejected by the Modern left, accused of right-wing apologetics, alt-right behavior, or are just dismissed as "right-wing". As Brendan O'Neill said when he was asked "When did you leave the left", his response was, "I didn't leave the left... the left left me."

        The issue is there are moderate people on the left, we-- the royal "we" don't call them left any more. We call them... something else.

        1. Cyto   3 years ago

          He'll, Greenwald is nowhere near moderate left... he is pretty radical left. Just not down with communism and censorship and tends to call it straight.

          Therefore....

          Nazi!

          1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

            I would say that Greenwald is a true believer old school or classic liberal. He definitely has integrity and sticks to his principles, which is not a trait the progressives share, speaking generally.

            1. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

              ^
              You can change Greenwald's mind with facts. Classic Liberal.

          2. perlmonger   3 years ago

            The Intercept had the giant brass balls enough to email me begging for money to fight censorship in tech.

            I laughed out loud.

        2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

          I agree, there are moderate lefties, and moderate righties. And they. we, I suppose, tend to suck at holding our own accountable. Haidt seems to be a thorn in the progressives' foot, but just can't quite get to the point where he is really able to admit that his team are often a bunch of assholes. He doesn't need to, but if he wants to straddle the middle more effectively, then it would be a better position than the tepid condemnations he generally musters. But, back to the moderates -it's easier to pretend that the far left and far right, w/ their vocal shenanigans, are the entire group.

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Nobody has monitored more citizens of the wrong party than the democrats have. Obama, Hillary, j6 committee.

  33. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/AtlRey/status/1514242052829155333?t=kg61MlaGWAllNSq5S37f_Q&s=19

    2 years after the 2020 election, have your feelings that there was election fraud increased or decreased? Please retweet for a larger sampling size.

    [Poll]

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Went from zero to zero.

      —Reason

  34. Jerryskids   3 years ago

    Marine Le Pen hasn't even won the French Presidency but already the French turn to Putin and Russian propaganda has begun as French journalist claims the US is running the war in Ukraine.

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Is it still Russian propaganda if it's true? Biden's puppeteers needed a Ukrainian invasion worse than Putin, and damned if they'll let it end before midterms.

  35. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    One of most infamous Capitol rioters 'Bigo' who put his boot on Pelosi's desk and was armed with a stun gun REJECTS plea deal and five-year sentence
    Richard Barnett, 61, became one of the Capitol insurrection's most famous faces
    He is charged with theft of government property, disorderly conduct and entering a restricted building with a dangerous weapon on January 6, 2021
    Barnett also carried a stun gun when he put his feet on Pelosi's desk: prosecutors
    Ex-firefighter and window salesman said no to guilty plea and five-year jail term
    The Arkansas rioter also stole headed letter paper from Pelosi and left a quarter

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10714467/Stun-gun-wielding-Capitol-rioter-61-feet-Nancy-Pelosis-desk-rejects-plea-deal.html

    What a farce! The guy was nothing but a peaceful tourist! Everyone puts their feet on her desk! Besides, what about the summer rioters, huh? Why aren't they being prosecuted, huh? It's all political! They're political prisoners! It's just like East Germany!

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      He did pay for the stolen paper.

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Sarc supports 5 year sentences for feet on desk if armed with a non lethal weapon. And thinks he is a libertarian. Lol.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        Also...

        https://concealcarrylaw.co/legal-self-defense-weapons-in-washington-dc-2020/

        Weird. Stun guns are on that list. Sooooo.... 5 years for feet on desk?

      2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        JesseAz is a liar who makes stuff up about people and asserts it as fact.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Looks like I'm unmuted. Lol.

          So you aren't cheering the 5 year plea agreement there? Do tell.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            Um, no. The burden of proof is on you to prove your assertion, not on me to defend myself from your spurious accusations.

            1. Dakotian   3 years ago

              I see, so you posted this story to tweak your "enemies" on here not to comment on the 5 year sentence for non violent crimes? Very libertarian of you.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                Dude, all I did was mock the J6 nutters. That's it. There's nothing between the lines or anything like that. Just mockery.

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  Mocking someone for a 5 year plea agreement for feet on a desk. And you think there is no associated intention with that.

                  Stop scrambling. Your intentions are clear with the post.

                  Most libertarians don't mock people facing over 5 years in federal jail for non violent offenses, yet here you are.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    I was mocking you, not him. You knew that, but being a liar you had to twist my words since lying is all you've got.

                    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      No you weren't. There was no mockery of me in your post shit for brains. It is mocking the person whose story you linked to.

                      Problems with your post.

                      A) youre not funny
                      B) the subject is for a 5 year plea deal, meaning he is facing more, over your described actions of feet on a desk
                      C) you find it funny the "wrong people" are getting prosecuted for the above
                      D) you've never once said these prosecutions are unjustified but have defended them prior.
                      E) an appeal to mockery is the closest you can come to your statement implying you think this was wrong and agree with the punishment
                      F) even if we assume you are mocking posters. Then you are mocking them for saying 5 years for non violent offenses is bad.

                      No matter what you try to claim you mean now, your intentions are shown to be terrible.

                      Youre a piece of shit sarc.

                    2. Dakotian   3 years ago

                      Ok. So the so called "Nutters" believe that the J6 defendants are being persecuted for political reasons. Do you think this is false? Do you think a 5 year plea deal is a just sentence for this crime? Because most of the comments I see are not "The guy was nothing but a peaceful tourist!" but that they are being punished harshly for supporting the wrong guy.

                    3. R Mac   3 years ago

                      So you were mocking Jesse, and not discussing ideas? Fucking dishonest hypocrite.

                    4. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      So the so called "Nutters" believe that the J6 defendants are being persecuted for political reasons. Do you think this is false?

                      I'm on the fence. I laugh at people who use the word "insurrection" but understand where they are coming from. If you are someone who believes that this was in fact an attempt to overthrow the government, which is mainstream thought, then no they are not being persecuted for political reasons. They are traitors to the country and deserve what they get. However I also laugh at those who claim these were "mere tourists" who deserve no punishment at all because the summer rioters weren't punished. So I'm mixed on that.

                      Do you think a 5 year plea deal is a just sentence for this crime?

                      He rejected the plea, so that isn't his sentence. And I'm no expert on the subject so I can't give an informed answer.

                      Because most of the comments I see are not "The guy was nothing but a peaceful tourist!" but that they are being punished harshly for supporting the wrong guy.

                      They are being punished for invading the Capital building, destroying property, and disrupting the business of Congress.
                      Saying that they are being punished for supporting the wrong guy is a dishonest cop-out that ignores the fact that crimes were indeed committed.

                      Oh, and thank you for not being a dishonest prick like the asshat I just put back on mute.

                    5. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      JesseAz, I recommend you get psychiatric help. There is something seriously wrong with you.

                    6. Dakotian   3 years ago

                      Sarc he got charged with with theft of government property, disorderly conduct and entering a restricted building with a dangerous weapon. Does that deserve 5 years in jail? Yes or no? And keep in mind the plea deal is for less then what the prosecutor wants to push for in trial. Are you arguing that there should be a special "attempting to overthrow the government" modifier on his sentence? That doesn't seem like a very libertarian position.

                    7. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Sarc he got charged with with theft of government property, disorderly conduct and entering a restricted building with a dangerous weapon. Does that deserve 5 years in jail? Yes or no?

                      I'd have to say no.

                      But that's my answer to most sentences. I have nothing but contempt for our legal system that treats people as guilty until proven guilty, that routinely overcharges people to coerce a plea, that has sentences that do not fit the crime, and treats defendants differently depending on if they're peasants or part of the political class.

                    8. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Are you arguing that there should be a special "attempting to overthrow the government" modifier on his sentence?

                      No I am not. Although I'm sure the asshat I put on mute will tell me I'm wrong.

                    9. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      So you were mocking Jesse, and not discussing ideas? Fucking dishonest hypocrite.

                      When did you last discuss an idea?

                      Have you ever discussed an idea?

                      How often do you try to derail discussions about ideas by attacking the person to change the topic from the idea to the person?

                      I'm thinking the answers are never, nope, and at every opportunity.

                    10. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      . If you are someone who believes that this was in fact an attempt to overthrow the government, which is mainstream thought, then no they are not being persecuted for political reasons.

                      This is not a mainstream though based on polling. It is the democrat narrative by media and politicians which you seem to have no trouble joining in with. Not a lefty after all.

                      J6 is low on concerns of voters.

                    11. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      Lol

                      sarcasmic
                      April.13.2022 at 2:12 pm
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      JesseAz, I recommend you get psychiatric help. There is something seriously wrong with you.

                      What in any of my posts says I need help dumbass? What an idiotic post.

                    12. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      This is not a mainstream though based on polling. It is the democrat narrative by media and politicians

                      If you'd have stopped there we could have a conversation. But you couldn't stop.

                      which you seem to have no trouble joining in with. Not a lefty after all.

                      Now you've already framed my point of view. You're engaging with a straw man.

                      Is you point that you don't want a conversation?

                      All conversations with you are one sided. You state your point of view. You state my point of view. Then when I disagree I'm a liar.

                      I'll leave you off mute for a little while. See if you're capable of civil discourse.

                    13. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      What in any of my posts says I need help dumbass? What an idiotic post.

                      Your mind reading followed by emotional outbursts.

                    14. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      I'm going to try something.

                      "This is not a mainstream though based on polling. It is the democrat narrative by media and politicians"

                      Really? Which polls are you talking about? I'd be interested in the information.

                    15. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      It's utterly hilarious that after I say "you tell your point of view, then my point of view, then call me a liar when I disagree," and then finish the argument by saying I'm in denial.

                      Were you trying to prove my point?

                    16. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      Cite the emotional outburst sarc. There is no way to read your mocking in a neutral or positive manner.

                      Are you honestly that much in delusion?

                      You've had far more emotional responses so far. I'm laughing at you. And yes. You are retreating as fast as possible. Look at the timestamps.

                    17. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      sarcasmic
                      April.13.2022 at 4:24 pm
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      I'm going to try something.

                      "This is not a mainstream though based on polling. It is the democrat narrative by media and politicians"

                      Really? Which polls are you talking about? I'd be interested in the information

                      Do you know how to search for polls on voter concerns? Honest question.

                      We get it. They are the wrong people. Lock them up. Just like it sucked Kyle avoided jail time for self defense. Want that link too?

                    18. R Mac   3 years ago

                      sarcasmic
                      April.13.2022 at 12:24 pm
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      I was mocking you, not him

                      4:19 pm
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      This is not a mainstream though based on polling. It is the democrat narrative by media and politicians

                      If you'd have stopped there we could have a conversation. But you couldn't stop.

                      Such a dishonest hypocrite.

                    19. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      By the way sarc...

                      Oh, and thank you for not being a dishonest prick like the asshat I just put back on mute.

                      How did you respond with quotes if I'm back on mute?

                      When you are so dishonest with small things it leads to people calling you a chronic liar in all things.

                    20. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      You caught that r mac? He claimed he was mocking me then cried me responding as to the reason for not having a discussion? Lol. I saw that too. Didn't bother pointing it out.

                    21. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      I'm going to try something.

                      "This is not a mainstream though based on polling. It is the democrat narrative by media and politicians"

                      Really? Which polls are you talking about? I'd be interested in the information.

                      You guys responded by flinging poop like monkeys. Thank you.

                    22. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                      Wow. Hung up on mute or not, and that determines the validity of whatever the subject was?

                      Good job trolls. You win. Thank you for reminding me why I keep you on mute. Stops me from being tempted by masterbaiters.

                    23. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      Pinky swear I'm on mute this time?

                      Youre just ignoring you blatantly lie all the time?

                  2. perlmonger   3 years ago

                    > I'm laughing at you. And yes. You are retreating as fast as possible. Look at the timestamps.

                    Maybe the mute boxes should be brown instead of gray so he can leave a streak behind when he runs away.

                2. Vexatious   3 years ago

                  Your hatred for Trump has consumed whatever was left of your liquor soaked soul. Terrible injustice with chilling implications for what is to come? No problem! They’re Trumpistas! So the law, or even the constitution, doesn’t matter.

                  Good old Sarc. So principled.

            2. JesseAz   3 years ago

              What is the point of your comment? Is there any?

              You've made clear for 2 years that these aren't political prosecutions even in that statement here.

              What was your intention? It sure seems like you dont give a shit the pleasure agreement, a lower sentence, was for 5 years for a non violent offense.

              Don't backtrack now.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                What is the point of your comment? Is there any?

                Nope. None. Just mocking you and your fellow J6 nutters.

                You've made clear for 2 years that these aren't political prosecutions even in that statement here.

                I have never made such a statement. Ever. You're lying again.

                What was your intention?

                To mock you.

                It sure seems like you dont give a shit the pleasure agreement, a lower sentence, was for 5 years for a non violent offense.

                You're reading things that aren't there.

                Don't backtrack now.

                Backtrack on what? Your lies and false assertions?

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  You are in such denial.

                  It is obvious after the post you realized how badly this made you look and are fucking scrambling now.

                2. Vexatious   3 years ago

                  You weren’t mocking Jesse. And how is he a ‘J6 nutter’? I’m pretty sure he wasn’t there.

                  1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                    His whole defense when pointed out he is mocking people facing over 5 years for feat on desks is to claim he was mocking me. But his entire post is dedicated to that guy and his situation.

                    He is truly delusional lol.

                    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      Feet*

                    2. R Mac   3 years ago

                      Not delusional, a lying hypocrite.

              2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                This is typical discourse with you. You twist my words, read things that aren't there, rebut things I never said or did, and then expect me to defend myself. What do you get out of this?

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  I didn't twist anything. Your own claims are you are either mocking someone facing 5 years for feet on a desk or mocking people outraged for someone facing 5 years for feet on a desk.

                  You look terrible. You realized it. And you are scrambling lol.

                2. Vexatious   3 years ago

                  He isn’t twisting anything. You’re backtracking. We can all see what you wrote. Tony is also a huge piece of shit, but at least he’s somewhat honest about what a soulless totalitarian he is in what passes for his heart.

                  1. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

                    Tony is very honest about being a totalitarian piece of shit, to his credit. Sarc is drinking his way through the stages of denial on it.

    3. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      5 years? wtf

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        He rejected it which means it's likely going to trial. And in light of the recent story of the guy claiming security let them in I think it's a good move.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Continued proof you realized how terrible your original post was lol.

          1. Vexatious   3 years ago

            He’s just such a pathetic, weak little shitweasel.

            1. JesseAz   3 years ago

              Lol. In agreement there.

    4. American Mongrel   3 years ago

      I'm starting to think that besides the "mean girls", you, tony and most of the rest of the prolific posters are all shills.

      The only good poster left is soldier medic and I'm sure he'll eventually earn the wrath of one one group of faggots or another.

      The mean girls are definitely a cancer on this site and I think the core 3 are the same person, but....

      Eat shit anyways.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        More mean things said in this post than the group he accuses of being mean. Hypocrites abound!

      2. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

        Mean tweets broke America. Never again.

  36. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

    Eh, if dumbasses didn't think the president caused such high gas prices then we could dismiss with the theatrics. But they don't so we can't.

    Hell if you talk to reason they think it's fantastic that we have high gas prices.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      WTF?

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      Sock fail or sarcasm fail?

    3. JimboJr   3 years ago

      What about the rampant inflation he and the dems caused in literally every other area of life?

      Seems the policies he and D governors put into place have ruined the economy.

      Oh btw shithead, remember when you said we had to do what CDC and Fauci said for the good of society?

      https://www.nber.org/papers/w29928

      Guess what, all the R governors who told you to fuck off faired better, while your D buddies had worse mortality, worse economic outcomes, with less kids back in school.

      "Science"!

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        You understood that gibberish?

    4. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      Whose day 1 EO paused gas leases and exploration? What happened to the Keystone?

      Pathetic as ever, shitlunches.

  37. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

    • Perhaps unsurprisingly, people are fleeing Hong Kong in even larger volumes than usual now that another COVID wave is striking China:

    In fact, people have been increasingly fleeing Hong Kong because of the Chinese Communist takeover Asia's former capital of free trade.

    • In China, other cities might soon be joining Shanghai under strict COVID lockdown—though it is notable that Shanghai's draconian rules don't seem to be preventing case numbers from spiking:

    After seeing/hearing the unscientific inhumane lockdowns by Chinese Communist officials even in affluent sections of Shanghai, many/most Chinese are now stockpiling food and other essentials (similar to what occurred in the US during the covid panic and lockdowns by left wing Democrats), which could cause shortages of food and essentials throughout the country.

    1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      When the communists take over, you have to get out ASAP before they slam the door shut and lock you in.

      If you dont know this by now you haven't read even the most basics of 20th century history.

      If the USA ever dissolves GET OUT of the blue states as soon as you can they will go full commie and lock you down.

      1. Vexatious   3 years ago

        The best move is to slaughter the communists before they can take over. If all the communists are dead, then their can be no more communism.

        1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

          sure but no one ever takes this step. They let the communists take over and then it's lights out for everyone. you gotta run quick once they grab power.

          1. perlmonger   3 years ago

            Mostly the issue is that people, being human, generally don't want to go that far. Communists aren't like that, because they aren't human. They just love bloodshed and misery.

            1. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

              It's not that they love it, but that they can consider those outside their politics as in- or subhuman.

              Remember each Communist may have a family. Unless they have weirdly coloured hair and a halter top with their stubble; you can pretty much guarantee those aren't procreating.

  38. Cyto   3 years ago

    This randomly came up in my feed.... let's see what the common man thinks about the NYC subway attack...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/u2ov0r/brooklyn_shooter_uploaded_a_video_insulting_white/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    Checking the comments, the propaganda war is working. People are defending the shooter, saying he is not a racist, and people are pointing out that he is a racist and the media is hiding it.

    Divide and conquer. Keep the people at each other's throats. Make sure everything is about the team, so that critical thinking cannot engage and people will just believe whatever they are told......

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      The people arguing he isn't racist are regime loyalists. They are trying to conquer you.

      This isn't a situation where 99% of people are being divided in two and manipulated into focusing on the other side so 1% can accomplish their goals.

      It's 40% fully in support of those goals of 1%, driven purely by programming and resentful desire to destroy.

      The activist left, and those who agree with them, aren't misguided- they are evil, and a continuous threat to your existence.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      I wonder if not reporting his race immediately caused any witnesses to miss him?

      1. Cyto   3 years ago

        "We have an APB for a male."

        Nope. Can't see why that wouldn't work.

        1. swillfredo pareto   3 years ago

          We have an APB for a male.

          Suspect is hatless. Repeat, hatless.

  39. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/TonyDungy/status/1514234510585606145?t=bjo6mlUPDwxOVqTEmBsffQ&s=19

    2 days ago I spoke on behalf of a Florida bill that supports dads & families and it offended some people. 14 yrs ago Pres Obama said the same things almost verbatim. I’m assuming people were outraged at him too. I am serving the Lord so I’ll keep supporting dads and families.

  40. Joe Friday   3 years ago

    Sure, Biden's efforts reap pennies in a few months and leasing federal lands about the same in years, so why not criticize him for both.

    By the way, on the Hunter laptop? Today's WaPo:

    "When the New York Post first reported in October 2020 that it had obtained the contents of a laptop computer allegedly owned by Joe Biden’s son Hunter, there was an immediate roadblock faced by any other news outlet that hoped to corroborate the reporting, as many did: The newspaper wasn’t sharing what it obtained.

    The national story quickly centered on the dubious provenance of the material, particularly given how, four years before, WikiLeaks had begun releasing material stolen by Russian hackers at about the same point in the presidential contest. But for news outlets interested in actually evaluating what the New York Post claimed it had, neither the paper nor its source for the material, President Donald Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani, were willing to share. (Giuliani famously told the New York Times that he was hoping to avoid having the material vetted before being published.) It therefore seemed wise to treat the New York Post’s claims with some skepticism.

    Now, a new voice has joined those raising questions about the validity of the material that’s alleged to have been on Hunter Biden’s laptop: the guy who recovered that data in the first place.

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    Last month, The Washington Post was able to publish a report based on a copy of material that we obtained from a Republican activist named Jack Maxey who’d gotten it from Giuliani. We had multiple experts examine the contents of a hard drive that purported to contain the laptop’s contents, validating tens of thousands of emails as likely to be legitimate. But an enormous amount of the material on the drive couldn’t be validated as legitimate, in part because of the game of telephone that the material had undergone by the time it reached us. (The report notes that efforts to obtain the material in 2020 were rebuffed.)

    “The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years,” our report explained, with those we spoke with being unable to “reach definitive conclusions about the contents as a whole, including whether all of it originated from a single computer or could have been assembled from files from multiple computers and put on the portable drive.”

    For example:

    “[An expert] also found records on the drive that indicated someone may have accessed the drive from a West Coast location in October 2020, little more than a week after the first New York Post stories on Hunter Biden’s laptop appeared.”
    “Over the next few days, somebody created three additional folders on the drive, titled, ‘Mail,' ‘Salacious Pics Package’ and ‘Big Guy File’ — an apparent reference to Joe Biden.”
    One expert likened it to a crime scene that was littered with fast-food wrappers thanks to the first police who’d arrived on the scene. That’s meant as an indictment, but it’s also generous. The first people on the scene weren’t police, in this case; they were (to extend the analogy) people aiming to obtain an indictment against a particular person.

    There is still an unlittered crime scene out there. The owner of the store where Hunter Biden allegedly dropped the laptop off for repairs three years ago turned the computer over to the FBI when issued a subpoena to do so. In an interview with the right-wing media outlet “Real America’s Voice,” the owner, John Paul Mac Isaac, explained how relieved he was when the FBI came to get the laptop.

    “I thought everything was great when they took it," he said, “because that was what I wanted the whole time was just to get this stuff out of my shop, have the FBI — have a paper trail that afforded me some protection, both physically and legally.”

    This was a theme of the interview, as it has been with past interviews with Mac Isaac: his insistences that he thought he was somehow in danger for having the laptop in his possession. If you’re wondering how he then was able to pass the material to Giuliani, the answer is that he nonetheless kept a copy of the material from the laptop “in case he was ever thrown under the bus as a result of what he knew,” his attorney told The Washington Post. In this particular tale, this is low on the scale of things that don’t entirely make sense.

    It’s important to explain how Mac Isaac created the backup in the first place. The laptop he obtained repeatedly shut down as he tried to recover its data. So, instead of simply copying the entire hard drive to another device, he did so piecemeal, copying individual files and folders one at a time. In doing so, he claims that he saw material that he found alarming.

    “I saw some content that was disturbing and then also raised some red flags,” Mac Isaac explained to “Real America’s Voice.” Later asked to explain what had alarmed him, he said that he saw “criminality … related to foreign business dealings, to potential money laundering and, more importantly, national security issues and concerns.” That, he explained, was “what caused me to do a deep dive into the laptop once it became my property.”

    Here, again, the timeline is iffy. Delaware law indicates that he could assume ownership of the laptop after a year. But he obtained the laptop in April 2019 (at the same time that conservative media was beginning to focus on Hunter Biden’s relationship with a Ukrainian energy company, Burisma) and gave it to the FBI that December. He said that he was alarmed by the failure of the laptop to come up during Trump’s first impeachment investigation. That effort ended in February 2020, before a year had passed.

    What Mac Isaac said next, though, is what was most noteworthy. When he did his “deep dive,” he said, he “saw a lot of photos” — but “did not see a lot of photos that are being reported to [have been] seen.”

    “I do know that there have been multiple attempts over the past year-and-a-half to insert questionable material into the laptop as in, not physically, but passing off this misinformation or disinformation as coming from the laptop,” he said. “And that is a major concern of mine because I have fought tooth and nail to protect the integrity of this drive and to jeopardize that is going to mean that everything that I sacrificed will be for nothing.”

    In other words, Mac Isaac says that he has seen claims about what the laptop contains that don’t actually reflect what he saw on the laptop at the outset. Or, presumably, sees now, as one of the few people that might still have an unlittered copy of its contents.

    To what is he referring? It’s hard to say. It may include one of the more popular claims that has circulated on the right, alleging that the machine included evidence of criminal sexual activity by Hunter Biden. (This was alleged on-air by Tucker Carlson last year, without proof.) Or it may involve other claims entirely.

    Here’s where The Washington Post’s discovery that folders were added becomes more important. We have evidence that the portable hard drive had something added to it both before and after the New York Post’s original story — and here’s Mac Isaac agreeing that some of what he’s seen presented as coming from the laptop was never on there. This is why provenance matters in journalistic investigations. Just because Rudy Giuliani says that material came from a hard drive is not reason to assume it did — particularly when he’s on-record as disparaging the idea that the material should be vetted before being reported on.

    Hunter Biden remains under federal investigation for possible violations of tax law. The material on the laptop (assuming that the laptop itself is Biden’s, which is also not entirely settled) may play a role in establishing his guilt or innocence. But the mythical contents of the laptop that have been so fascinating to the right for the past 18 months are — at least at times — not provably that.

    If you don’t want to take the mainstream media’s word for it, take Mac Isaac’s."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/12/now-warning-about-hunter-biden-laptop-disinfo-guy-who-leaked-it/

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Lol.

    2. TJJ2000   3 years ago

      There is no such thing as "federal lands"...
      The federal government wasn't given the authority to be a LAND MANAGERS. Treasonous Politicians like to pretend they can be Land Managers and *STOLE* almost 40% of the entire USA Land Mass from the !!-People-!!... Gang-Land Criminals; Just as bad as Russia taking over Ukraine yet leftards pretend it's all well and good.

      ......... BECAUSE .......... Let's not pretend its not something it most definitely is.... 100% COMMUNISM.......... The USA is NOT a Communist Nation. It is a Constitutional Union of Republican States.

      1. TJJ2000   3 years ago

        ...And anyone has to pretend they don't understand why real estate pricing keeps blowing through the roof.

    3. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Are these the same analysts FusionGPS paid to verify the DNC server hack?

      1. Cyto   3 years ago

        What they are saying carries absolutely 0 plausibility. When you get a copy of a hard drive, you don't access the files That way.

        . The whole thing is stupid. At best they are claiming that the is the copy that they have been given been given has been altered.. But the stuff they are claiming to have been altered has nothing to do with the import of the laptop. That is how you know you're being deceived.

    4. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      Interesting. I wouldn’t have been able to see this one behind the paywall.

      1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        I’m sure JesseAz would tell lies about this, but I never said I believed or disbelieved the Hunter laptop stuff. It had a few fishy elements when the story broke (mostly Giuliani being in the chain of custody), but I always said I was simply reserving judgement.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Lol. Yes you did. And it isnt a lie. You straight dismissed it.

          Next up you never talked about fire extinguishers and bear spray.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            HO2.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              What if the assault fire extinguishers were filled with HO2?

              1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                He honestly thinks people didn't figure out he was white Mike.

      2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

        And I agree with the conservative criticism of liberal media that they didn’t want to carry the story at all before the election. It’s understandable, but not excusable, that they were fearful of the election going to total cretin, Trump.

        Where I very much disagree with advancers of the conservative victimhood narrative here is that I can see that the liberal media is not the totality of media.

        The Hunter Biden story got, and still gets, plenty of media coverage. Anybody who wanted to know about it was able to get all the info they wanted on the topic.

        1. Cyto   3 years ago

          Intentionally ignoring all evidence to the contrary, most notably the polling immediately after the election and a year before the Times revelation that it is in fact legit, a third of Biden voters said that if they had known they would not have voted for him.

          Don't believe the media hiding things actually has an effect?

          Take a less political example. Waukesha. Go to a local mall and ask them if there have been any mass killings by black people. Or if there have been any large scale racist attacks by black people recently.

          You will not have very many folks dredging up Waukesha.

          That is a straightforward and simple to understand example. A crowd of old ladies and kids is mowed down by a BLM guy who is a black nationalist and has an extensive set of writing, songs and video making violent racist statements. 60 people. 5 months ago. Nobody remembers it. No 20/20 features. No memorials. No profile of a killer. Didn't happen.

          1. JimboJr   3 years ago

            From a media coverage standpoint, they were working on memory holing it the next day, and it was completely absent from all coverage less than a week later.

            Contrast that with the guy who ran down left wing protestors, and killed 1 (one) person in Charlottesville. Breathless coverage, 24/7, for weeks if not months after, multiple interviews with victims family, white supremacy on blast daily, you couldn't turn on a TV without seeing it mentioned hourly. One person, who was run down by a douche in a clash of protestors and counter protestors.

            Vs a person in the most evil way possible, running over and killing almost 10 people, injuring more. An actual mass killing. Of innocent grandmas. At Christmas. With openly stated racial motives. Crickets. Just imagine the coverage had he been white and even a single victim being black.

            1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

              He didn't run down anybody. He ran into a car, which then hit the crowd, killing Heyer. The media has purposefully lied about this, to make it more sensational, and to support their agenda. Still a douchebag, but not really the same thing as ramming into the crowd.

            2. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

              And he was out on bail reform after having just run down another lady. Same SUV.

              Crickets.

          2. perlmonger   3 years ago

            Go to a local mall and ask them if there have been any mass killings by black people. Or if there have been any large scale racist attacks by black people recently.

            As though people at the mall wouldn't be afraid to answer that question publicly...

        2. JimboJr   3 years ago

          "Where I very much disagree with advancers of the conservative victimhood narrative here is that I can see that the liberal media is not the totality of media."

          Its not the totality of the media, but its about 95% of it. Aside from fox there is really no other widely watched station that pushes anything but the approved (and perfectly parroted) narrative at any given time.

          Also, they use this to their advantage. They see the same approved talking points on NYT, Wapo, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, NPR, and then they finally get the opposing view from a right leaning source and dismiss it as wingnut insanity. Because after all, they already got the "correct" take from 6-10 "trusted" news outlets. The take from fox has to be false misinformation.

          1. JesseAz   3 years ago

            The media who pushes these lies are also trusted green checkmark for plug-ins like News Guard.

            1. Joe Friday   3 years ago

              Look it up:

              In Sept 2016, Fusion GPS invited all major news organizations - NYTs WaPo, New Yorker, etc, to come to their office in NY and vew the Steele Dossier and even meet Steele. Most did. None reported on it until it was broken in Jan 2017 by others.

              Responsible journalism means being wary of sources, and especially just before an election. Trump was protected by this practice by the supposedly partisan major news sources in 2016 just as Biden was in 2020.

              Spin it how you want. Those are facts.

              "The founders of Fusion GPS have described how they did not hide the fact that they were researching Trump and Russia: "Fusion and Steele tried to alert U.S. law enforcement and the news media to the material they'd uncovered ..." and their office became "something of a public reading room" for journalists seeking information. In September they arranged a private meeting between Steele and reporters from The Washington Post, The New York Times, The New Yorker, ABC News, and other outlets. The results were disappointing, as none published any stories before the election.[56]

              Jane Mayer has described how, in "late summer, Fusion set up a series of meetings, at the Tabard Inn, in Washington, between Steele and a handful of national-security reporters. ... Despite Steele's generally cool manner, he seemed distraught about the Russians' role in the election." Mayer attended one of the meetings. None of these news organizations ran any stories about the allegations at that time.[29]

              Before the election, only two news sources mentioned allegations that came from dossier reports. Steele had been in contact with both authors. These were a September 23, 2016, Yahoo! News article by Michael Isikoff which focused on Carter Page,[95] and an article by David Corn on October 31, 2016, a week before the election, in Mother Jones magazine.[70]"

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier#Hints_of_existence

              1. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

                You still don't realize what Wikipedia is, or why it's not a valid source of information, do you?

                I agree media outlets were initially wary of the Steele dossier: it was fabricated bullshit in a political misinformation push by the Clinton campaign.

                What is different in the Hunter Biden story - contents are Congressional record now btw - is that it was actively suppressed by tech companies and most every publication actively wrote against it in coordinated regime propoganda.

  41. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/western-dissent-from-usnato-policy?s=w

    What makes this outburst of Western censorship so notable — and what is at least partially driving it — is that there is a clear, demonstrable hunger in the West for news and information that is banished by Western news sources, ones which loyally and unquestioningly mimic claims from the U.S. government, NATO, and Ukrainian officials. As The Washington Post acknowledged when reporting Big Tech's “unprecedented” banning of RT, Sputnik and other Russian sources of news: “In the first four days of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, viewership of more than a dozen Russian state-backed propaganda channels on YouTube spiked to unusually high levels.”

    Note that this censorship regime is completely one-sided and, as usual, entirely aligned with U.S. foreign policy. Western news outlets and social media platforms have been flooded with pro-Ukrainian propaganda and outright lies from the start of the war. A New York Times article from early March put it very delicately in its headline: “Fact and Mythmaking Blend in Ukraine’s Information War.” Axios was similarly understated in recognizing this fact: “Ukraine misinformation is spreading — and not just from Russia.” Members of the U.S. Congress have gleefully spread fabrications that went viral to millions of people, with no action from censorship-happy Silicon Valley corporations. That is not a surprise: all participants in war use disinformation and propaganda to manipulate public opinion in their favor, and that certainly includes all direct and proxy-war belligerents in the war in Ukraine.

    Yet there is little to no censorship — either by Western states or by Silicon Valley monopolies — of pro-Ukrainian disinformation, propaganda and lies. The censorship goes only in one direction: to silence any voices deemed “pro-Russian,” regardless of whether they spread disinformation. The "Russians With Attitude” Twitter account became popular in part because they sometimes criticized Russia, in part because they were more careful with facts and viral claims that most U.S. corporate media outlets, and in part because there is such a paucity of outlets that are willing to offer any information that undercuts what the U.S. Government and NATO want you to believe about the war.

    1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

      Nardz, I am sure you saw the official warning to the US and NATO from the Russian Defense Ministry this morning. They have stated they will attack any US or NATO vehicles bringing in weapons to Ukraine, and cited their legal justification under international law.

      My question to you: Is it a bluff? Will they attack US vehicles?

      1. Cyto   3 years ago

        Of course. We would. Anyone would.

      2. Nardz   3 years ago

        NATO or otherwise, if they're in Ukraine running weapons they are legitimate targets

        1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

          Then you know what is coming, Nardz (and Cyto). An elaborate 'cat and mouse' game. I hope to Christ our military leadership still remembers how to play that game.

          1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

            ^but you know the answer.

            1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

              I only wish I did, IW. The only thing I know for certain is that things will not go according to plan.

          2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

            This game has been coming since the start. Now the choice is not 'Putin can leave,' or 'Zelenskyy can give up Donbas,' but the US can stop the fucking proxy war, now.

            1. perlmonger   3 years ago

              208 days to turn the Midterms around! ...or get us all killed. One of those.

        2. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

          The only not legitimate target is an Iranian general/terrorist, in a war zone.

  42. Sevo   3 years ago

    "California condors to return to Northwest skies after 100-year absence"
    [...]
    "“The California condor is a shining example of how a species can be brought back from the brink of extinction through the power of partnerships,” said Paul Souza, regional director for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s California-Great Basin Region, in a press release.
    The Yurok Tribe has worked for decades to return the condor — called pregoneesh in the Yurok language — to the Pacific Northwest alongside many federal, state and private entities. The bird’s recovery plays a large role in healing Yurok people, Williams-Claussen said..."
    https://www.opb.org/article/2021/03/25/condor-yurok-tribe-pacific-northwest-recovery/#:~:text=The%20endangered%20California%20condor%20is%20ready%20to%20return,of%20California%20condors%20in%20the%20Yurok%20ancestral%20territory.?msclkid=6bbd898bbb3911ec9d5089a9cc9a3546

    Outside of a huge pile of bullshit regarding 'healing a people', no one has addressed WHY we are wasting time and resources on attempting to keep any species from extinction.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      The easy answer to that is because it is impossible to unextinct them

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      For the children?

    3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      There are few people on this continent more responsible for species extinction than the "natives".

    4. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      Because of California's huge cultural guilt for devastating one of the most beautiful ecologies in the nation and causing more environmental harm per capita than any of the other states?

  43. Sevo   3 years ago

    "U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson Fined for Breaking COVID Lockdown Rules"
    https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/13/headlines/uk_prime_minister_boris_johnson_fined_for_breaking_covid_lockdown_rules?msclkid=9c5a975dbb3a11ecbc7613dc2824b589

    It's a good thing Newsom and Pelosi don't live where laws apply to elected officials.

  44. Sevo   3 years ago

    "San Francisco activist Cleve Jones to vacate Castro flat amid housing fight"
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/San-Francisco-activist-Cleve-Jones-to-vacate-17073733.php?msclkid=07ddc18dbb3b11ec8c97d20c7e879779

    Guy has a Russian River home, keeps the (rent-controlled) pied-à-terre in San Fran for his visits.
    Woman bought the place, asked him to move since he wasn't living there; he declined.
    Well, seems she had security cameras installed and they made it clear that his 'occupancy' amounted to visits to collect mail a couple of times a month.
    He's claiming the 'strain of the proceedings' would be too much; IOWs, he got busted.

    1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      You'd have to be insane to get into the landlord business in SF

  45. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/rumblevideo/status/1514243124830392325?t=bdIHiGNuHk2zX8itWieD0Q&s=19

    1/2 Here are emails we received from the @globeandmail, demanding to know why we aren't dutifully copying YouTube's censorship. It is now common that we receive pressure from journalists demanding that we censor more. See the next tweet for Rumble's response:

    [Link]

    1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      Mainstream media journalists are essentially regime apparatchiks at this point.

      Reading this guy's emails to Rumble, it's just embarrassing for him. I can't imagine what it's like to be this kind of person. The true definition of a regime NPC.

    2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      The projection in the email is insane. Seriously, every day it's harder to argue that progressiveness isn't a disease.

    3. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      What a fucking loser. I can't get over what a little bitch this Joe Castaldo "journalist" is.

  46. JimboJr   3 years ago

    https://nypost.com/2022/04/12/frank-r-james-idd-as-person-of-interest-in-brooklyn-subway-shooting/

    Man talk about a guy who's brain got warped by left wing propaganda. He hits so many of the high points.

    - white motherfuckers, committing genocide on people..."What do you think they gonna do to your black ass?”"
    - "Why should a n—er be alive on this planet? Besides to pick cotton or chop sugar cane or tobacco"
    - "Cause unlike President [Volodymyr Zelensky] over in Ukraine, nobody has your back. The whole world is against you"

    Absolutely the product of consuming too much left wing media and the brain worms that come with it. Blood is on the hands of the race baiters

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      The Today Show has it on high authority that he was unhappy with the mayor of New York. That is clearly the motivation at work

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        It is absolutely the product of the anti-racism garbage that is now widespread through society.

        When you've got some loser who is being constantly told the whites are the problem and have caused all of societies ills, and that you will always be at a disadvantage do to your skin color....

        Then Ibram Kendi tells you, in his "how to be an antiracist" that the only solution for past and current discrimination (or racism) is countering that with future discrimination (or racism) to right the injustice.....his words, not mine....

        But ya, im sure he was just unhappy with the mayor, the Today show is probably right. Not the non stop race baiting they themselves push.

        1. Cyto   3 years ago

          Step 2 is realizing that this is the intended result. The want a return of racism and openly racist people. The better to make you happy to surrender your rights.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      Biden should be impeached for inciting violence when he told black people “They’re gonna put y’all back in chains.”

  47. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10715311/Saudi-TV-mocks-Biden-forgetful-old-man-needs-helped-Kamala-Harris-played-aman.html

    Saudi TV mocks Joe Biden as a forgetful old man who falls asleep at the podium, wanders off and needs to be helped around by Kamala Harris character played by man in drag
    Saudi TV show mocks Biden as sleepy and forgetful in SNL-style skit
    Kamala Harris is played by a black man in drag who has to correct his gaffes
    Biden has history of verbal gaffes that prompt questions about his mental acuity
    TV show is produced by Saudi government-owned television station
    Relations between the US and Saudi Arabia are going through difficult spell

    Worth watching. It's better than SnL (not that that means much).

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      I dunno if it is worth watching... but unlike SNL they actually poke fun at a democrat.

      At least Biden isn't a superhero on snl like Obama was. The only joke during Obama was "look how awesome Obama is for tolerating those stupid and evil Republicans. Isn't he amazing!?!"

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      This was posted yesterday. This doesn't save you "mocking" a guy facing more than 5 years for feet on desk above. Lol.

      1. Vexatious   3 years ago

        No, no…… he’s somehow mocking YOU. Even though you aren’t mentioned at all, and we’re not at the J6 protest.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          To be fair. I do mock him often. But not in a round about way totally divested from comments not in thread.

  48. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

    If inflation is turning any rise in wages negative, then that is pretty good explanation as to why it is the bigger story. Notwithstanding that inflation has an effect on a wider swath of the population than low unemployment.

  49. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    The Atlantic? Seriously when you link to a piece in the Atlantic you embarrass yourself.

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      It's Jonathan Haidt, though. The man generally is insightful and well-informed.

      1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

        I disagree with a lot of what he says, but he is insightful and puts a lot of thought into his arguments. Haidt is one of the few reasons to read anything at the atlantic.

  50. Minadin   3 years ago

    Meanwhile, I guess the CDC/TSA went ahead and just extended the public transit / commercial airline masking mandate again.

    https://notthebee.com/article/the-cdc-just-extended-their-mask-mandate-on-planes-again

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      The Science!

    2. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      It's a joke at this point

    3. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

      Didn't even wait until closer to the deadline to make it suspenseful!

    4. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

      Hey. Gas prices are high. Let's kill the airlines just for fun!

  51. Brian   3 years ago

    "Why high inflation is getting more attention than low unemployment"

    Because everyone pays for stuff, but practically everyone has a job even in the worst of times.

    1. JimboJr   3 years ago

      Commies making social commentary:

      "Why do these peasants keep piping up and complaining? They all have magnificent jobs serving the wealthy elite! Why do they keep complaining their measly paychecks are buying significantly less and that the bread lines are longer every week? They all have jobs after all! Why arent they celebrating?!?!"

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

        Reminds me of Shackford talking about how Title IX was going to be restructured and that people were only going to talk about the controversial stuff instead of the more basic changes. As if not understanding that there's a reason we don't want the shit mixed in with the agreeable stuff.

    2. TJJ2000   3 years ago

      "practically everyone has a job" --- Entirely Untrue.

      USA workforce 160M according to BLS.
      78% of the US population is an Adult @ 330M pop = 257M.

      60% of adults work.

  52. JimboJr   3 years ago

    Notably absent in every MSM article I have seen about the NY subway shooting spree...any picture of the suspect.

    After Kenosha we saw daily pictures of Rittenhouse complete with "white supremacy" label.

    Every pic from NYT and Wapo have been of random subway entrances, people walking around NYC/the subway, or occasionally victim photos. Haven't seen a single pic of the guy or his social media activities since it happened (from them)

    I wonder why...

    1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      You know why. Easier to memory hole this story without associated pictures.

  53. drisco304   3 years ago

    It's all about the headlines. "Biden helps consumers in big way", scream the headlines. OK. Next act.

  54. fabmonster   3 years ago

    No! No! No! E15 will not cost drivers a little less! Yes, the pump price will drop, slightly. But fuel efficiency will drop MORE. I ran the numbers on my vehicle. I will pay 30 cents more every 360 miles with E15 because I will have to fill up more frequently to drive those 360 miles.

    I know reporters are generally humanities majors and do not do arithmetic but I hoped Reason would not just recite talking points. The comments sections of the WaPo and WSJ have engineers who are sounding the alarm.

    I have a low opinion of Biden's intelligence and imagine he does not understand this. But I am certain at least some of his advisors have basic mathematical literacy and do know E15 will cost drivers more. This is a profoundly cynical vote-getting move relying on a complacent press. Do better, Reason!

    1. TJJ2000   3 years ago

      You should check out the "solar" light public park projects. Dumping Millions of tax payer stolen money and still having to use commercial power to keep the lights on.

    2. TJJ2000   3 years ago

      Green Energy has absolutely nothing to do with logic and everything to do with Nazi-Building and "looking good" (getting a plague) for Nazi-Regime fans who absolutely love the idea of stealing from everyone and dictating like Hitler.

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