Jury Acquits 2 Men Accused of Plotting To Kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
The plot was organized by a government informant working with the FBI.

In what should serve as a major blow to the credibility of federal law enforcement agents, a district court jury acquitted two men accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The jury deadlocked on the charges against two other defendants, and it's not clear whether prosecutors will seek to retry them, according to The New York Times.
Brandon Caserta and Daniel Harris were acquitted on all charges they faced. Adam Fox and Barry Croft will be eligible for retrial.
This is an embarrassing outcome for both the FBI—which had relied on a vast network of informants that were extensively involved in planning and even encouraging the plot—as well as Whitmer herself, who treated the plot with utter seriousness and connected it to former President Donald Trump's irresponsible rhetoric.
In reality, Whitmer was never in actual danger; "Big Dan," the ringleader of the alleged plot, contacted law enforcement early on, and the FBI paid him $54,000 to conduct six months of surveillance on a loose network of militia members who were upset with Whitmer's aggressive COVID-19 lockdown policies. When the group staked out Whitmer's house, it was Big Dan leading the effort—with the FBI's foreknowledge and encouragement.
At the same time, Big Dan's FBI handler, a man named Jayson Chambers, was attempting to start a side business as a security consultant; he thus had every incentive to construct a major domestic terrorism bust that he could take credit for foiling. As The Times reported:
No attack ever took place and no final date for an abduction was set, testimony showed, and the details of the alleged plan sometimes differed from witness to witness. The F.B.I. informant, Dan Chappel, said he believed the group planned to kill Ms. Whitmer, whose handling of the Covid-19 pandemic had infuriated the men. Ty Garbin, the man who earlier pleaded guilty in the case, said he thought the group of men might abandon the governor in a boat in the middle of Lake Michigan. Another man who pleaded guilty, Kaleb Franks, said he had hoped to die in a shootout with the governor's security detail.
"There was no plan to kidnap the governor, and there was no agreement between these four men," Joshua Blanchard, a lawyer for Mr. Croft, said in closing arguments. He said the government tried to conjure up a conspiracy by using a network of informants and undercover agents, and that "without a plan, the snitches needed to make it look like" there was movement toward a plan.
The FBI, of course, has a long history of engaging in entrapment: i.e., inducing people to plan crimes that they had no intention of carrying out. The victims of these prosecutions have often been Muslims, though right-wing groups are also a common target of overzealous law enforcement. It appears that the jury possessed reasonable and well-justified doubt that the there was ever any actual plot to kidnap Whitmer, despite the FBI's attempts to manufacture one.
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Hey Robbie, who is Ray Epps?
Just a guy who told the truth to the J6 committee members and not a guy in film directing people to enter the building. Now shut your mouth.
Hey Robbie, where is the J Edgar Hoover building, HQ for the FBI?
Hint: if you walk from the White House to the Capitol, you pass right in front of it.
Sounds like J Edgar Hoover building is right in the main Drag!
a vast network of informants that were extensively involved in planning and even encouraging the plot
That vast right-wing conspiracy again?
Won’t change their credibility much. Their credibility has been near zero and still falling for a long time now.
We should still subpoena gop donor lists just to make sure they weren't in Michigan
the FBI paid him $54,000 to conduct six months of surveillance on a loose network of militia members
"You get what you pay for. *** kicks pebble ***"
Also the FBI agent who started this investigation was creating a private security firm and trying to get millions in security contracts from politician protection to protect against these groups.
I, too, read the aticle.
I skipped it.
And.....I think another FBI agent (Trask?) was dismissed after beating the shit out of his wife when they returned from a Swingers party. Pretty sick fucking people we have in the FBI. Strozok was also a sick fuck, too. Seems to be a 'thing' within the FBI.
Strozok‘s smirking under oath in front of congress was a clear sign that not only are the feds completely unaccountable and they know it, they find it amusing. He even had the balls to sue to get his job back after getting caught planning to remove a sitting president, when he should be in prison.
The precursor to the J6 political trials.
What's interesting is how one sided the trial was...towards the Prosecutor. Prosecution was able to exclude all sorts of evidence, including context from sound-bites. Prosecutors had all the power and still lost. Proprietorial control in cases still needs to be cut.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/a-stunning-surprise-in-the-michigan-kidnapping-case-calls
FUBU is apparently a brand the FBI can get behind
Fucked Up By Us?
It really makes you wonder how Comey became an ethics professor.
Those who can't, teach.
And those who can't teach - administrate.
This is so true.
Yes! So true.
Of course what happened in MI didn't happen in D.C. on January 6th.
Have you once seen the headline, "FBI Failed to Notice 5000 Domestic Terrorists Walking Past Their HQ" ?
Either they had agents in the crowd or they missed an insurrection that quite literally took place on their doorstep. Frankly, the latter is the scarier proposition.
Disagree.
The former is far worse.
An incompetent federal police force isn't the end of the world. You can survive just fine w/o federal police at all.
A malicious, corrupt federal police force can impose totalitarianism. Just because these guys escaped their clutches doesn't mean you will... and most haven't.
Looked who called it from the get-go:
"Jerry B.
October.9.2020 at 8:44 am
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Undercover FBI agent - "Guys, we really need to kidnap the governor."
Militia members - "Well, we don't know. Sounds sort of extreme."
Agent - "Oh, come on. I've already got handcuffs and IEDs in case we need them.
Militia - "We're still not sure it's a good idea"
Agent - "Pussies"
Militia - "Okay. Tell us your plan."
Agent - "You're all under arrest for conspiracy to kidnap.
Militia - "Wha???"
Director's cut
new ending
Militia - uses handcuffs, digs big hole in woods, rehearses the chorus to "We never heard of him, honest. We was all playing poker that night"
And this trial happened with the judge being so favorable to the FBI and disallowing reams of misconduct data related to the Michigan arrests.
The comments from the usual suspects in that article are hilarious in hindsight.
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October.9.2020 at 9:22 am
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He is an anarchist in the "government in always the problem" like Reagan said. I know of few of them. They hate modern Republicans because they spend trillions of dollars we don't have like Dubya did and Trump does. They hate globalist centrists like Obama and Biden even more.
You Trump Trash spawned these far-right motherfuckers like Tim McVeigh and Dylan Roof so don't try to disown them. They are like the fucker that flew his plane into the IRS building in Austin - he was an anarchist who hated both parties but in particular Democrats.
Always wrong, always lying.
You can bank on reality being the exact opposite of what Shrike claims.
Too funny.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. Turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
Turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Well, you have to admit that he had a point about the absolute chokehold Trump had on the FBI...
I remember reading that comment and giving a good chuckle.
Didn't realize he had access to the real transcript.
"serve as a major blow to the credibility of federal law enforcement"
Also known as beating a dead horse.
No three letter federal agency has any credibility anymore.
And they really don't give a damn.
And why should they? Even when their schemes don’t work, there’s no consequences.
Fauci and the other incompetents at the CDC got:
Lots of public attention (fame in Fauci's case)
Lots of money
Zero repercussions for being mostly wrong about everything
More importantly about the CDC relative to the Whitmer plot; mostly wrong about everything with thousands of lives on the line.
Also, you left out the sweetest bennies: The simple joy of being able to take your mask off in a room full of people and tell the plebs masks work and to stay away from public gatherings.
The chances of the media ignoring this whole setup and still continually referring to the "kidnapping plot" anytime Whitmer is brought up? Pretty good.
The chances of Whitmer herself ignoring this and still continually referring to herself of a victim of a "kidnapping plot" during her reelection campaign? Extremely good.
^
How were they able to sort out defendants from the informants?
The ones that don't smell like shit-covered homeless people are the Feds.
This must be Peter Strzok, or someone who shares his sentiments.
https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/strzok-told-page-he-went-to-a-walmart-he-could-smell-the-trump-support.653103/
Funny thing was, of the 9 originally identified, 3 were FBI informants, 2 were FBI agents and only these 4 were tried.
Don't forget the one guy who pled guilty, though.
To late return of a library book?
And just withdrew his guilty plea, in light of the verdict and mistrial.
Anyone who runs is a defendent. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined informant!
This was a federal trial, too. Federal trials have a very powerful state apparatus to fund the prosecution, very seasoned federal attorneys, and all the power of the United States to produce anything a prosecutor could want. They usually also are slanted in favor of the state during voir dire and federal judges tend to be more pro prosecution than defense.
This is a massive blow against the prosecution that they couldn't get any convictions on any of the four defendants. It should be a massive indictment for how weak this case, how bogus the prosecution is, and how manufactured the entire offense was. The attorneys should turn around and sue for malicious prosecution to recover fees after this.
Yeah this is or at least should be a very big story. Of course it won't be. And just a reminder, Reason has been supporting this crap since 2015 and continues to support the unconstitutional treatment of J6 protesters. One Soave article doesn't get them off the hook.
It's nearly impossible to overstate how huge this is, yes. Because this wasn't just a bogus FBI case where they completely flubbed a federal prosecution due to entrapment. This was the FBI pushing and advancing a politically-driven case in an election year. It was a political prosecution aimed at demonizing elements of one political party to associate them with others.
There's not enough to say about what this does for the FBI, that they got caught running a false flag operation that politically benefited a certain party. There's so many layers underneath the surface that need to be scratched and if Republicans retake Congress, expect a TON of investigation to happen related to this.
The FBI has to be dissolved.
That is the only sane response to what's happened.
But it won't be, because the FBI is rather explicitly the Gustapo/Stasi.
This is my article that will hit tomorrow.
Here it is:
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/end-the-federal-bureau-of-investigation?s=w
If not dissolved, then severely reduced in size and scope. That is for sure. I would add abolishing the FISA court, too.
Oh yes, the repubs wll have a shit ton of investigations, spend a lot of time and energy crowing about it, and have exactly nothing come of it. As per normal whenever they take over Congress.
But Will Smith is now banned from the Oscars got 10 years. Which is more important to you? Really, get with the program.
https://twitter.com/DannyWArmstrong/status/1512335862155120646?t=oIftcNrhcSyXOv6sQj9YlQ&s=19
Ukrainian sisters and chess grandmasters Maria & Anna Muzychuk will be suspended and excluded from competition by Lviv Chess Federation for refusing to sign an open letter calling for the International Chess Federation (FIDE) to ban Russian & Belarusian athletes.
Chess players are athletes?
FIDE wants to pretend they are so they can get chess into the Olympics or something. They already use the anti-doping rules.
"If you're not with us, you're against us "
Pathetic. I am behind the Ukrainian people full stop but would never sign an open letter to ban other chess players from playing in a tournament because of where they are from. This might be dumber than the Boston Marathon.
Bad the Ukrainians for refusing to condemn all Russians. Wow.
My favorite NHL team has 4 Russian-born players and - thankfully - no one is calling for them to be banned.
https://twitter.com/DarrenJBeattie/status/1512518340325093384?t=zTH0rnJ5I-JEG1WtgxAxnQ&s=19
Steven D'Antuono has a lot to answer for
He ran the Mighigan FBI's entrapment operation
Then was promoted to oversee Jan 6 investigations
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But Robby is certain they didn't pull the same thing for J6 because reasons.
They only messed up just this once. Pinky swear they won’t do it again.
Remember the Hutaree Militia? Yeah, the FBI fucked that up, too.
I forgot about that. I wasn’t living in Michigan at the time so I don’t know the details. Wonder if any of the same feds were involved.
Our government is pathetic.
Our government doesn't get everything right, but it handled Ashli Babbitt.
Try harder.
Gun owners don't get everything right, but one handled Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber.
Sic semper hicklibis.
Are you trying to beat Tony for the maggot of the year prize or something?
-jcr
The democrats can't convict anyone they accuse.
Coming up next: dismissal of the constitutional rights of criminal defendants. Clearly the system isn't working. La dee da.
They can't convict anyone because they haven't committed any actual crimes.
They won't get rid of constitutional rights for defendents. They'll get rid of juries. They're too unpredictable and difficult to pay off.
Obviously we need to make more laws to run afoul of, then we're all criminals at the mercy of delayed judiciaries!
Yet another conspiracy turned truth studiously ignored by the corporate press (Reason being a member in good standing).
Pardon me for posing a dumb question, but I’m curious as to the following. What happens to or with this FBI Informant?
Qualified immunity I'm sure. Don't look for any consequences.
What you might see are massive congressional investigations starting next year if Republicans retake Congress.
Nothing will happen to him.
We live in a dictatorship.
Has Robby Soave ever met a roundly bigoted, slack-jawed, disaffected right-winger he didn't like?
Seems to be his type. That would explain his hairstyle.
You sure don't come across as bigoted, yourself.
Kirkland has to be a parody.
Who can tell anymore?
Have ever been intellectually honest?
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1512620434424008704?t=uIZFYhtLAMP5Z8iJvagA4A&s=19
ukrainian member of parliament tweeting out a photo of a regular cemetery on ukrainian-controlled territory as a "mass grave" that was "discovered" to her quarter million followers. this is just grotesque.
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https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1497380328209530884?t=0B8LdXF2_lsNNxv3SjsMFQ&s=19
ICYMI, lawyers for Alfa Bank today published their depositions of Rodney Joffe and Peter Fritsch–and they are lit.
TLDR: Hillary operatives planted a trail of false breadcrumbs tying Alfa to Trump.
How did Mueller and his crack team not figure this out?
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Moral of the story this week, if charged by the feds never, ever take a plea deal, no matter how they pressure you to.
Another moral....get small. Meaning, low profile. The Chinese have an interesting proverb: The tallest tree is the first to be cut down.
When governments target citizens and strip away their liberty as ours is doing now, don't be a tall tree. That is the lesson I have had reinforced of late, sm76.
Whitmer's Chief of Staff, JoAnn Huls on the matter: “Today, Michiganders and Americans—especially our children—are living through the normalization of political violence. The plot to kidnap and kill a governor may seem like an anomaly. But we must be honest about what it really is: the result of violent, divisive rhetoric that is all too common across our country. There must be accountability and consequences for those who commit heinous crimes. Without accountability, extremists will be emboldened."
And you know what? I completely agree with her - these FBI agents must be held accountable, or we will continue to see otherwise innocent, discontent Americans entrapped in alphabet agency soup.
“There must be accountability and consequences for those who commit heinous crimes. Without accountability, extremists will be emboldened.”
She’s talking about the illegal changes the Democrat SOS made to voting rules, right?
Those too.
Seriously, Dems are like vampires when it comes to self-reflection. Absolutely nothing there.
It is not the agents who need to be held to account.
Someone said, "go forth and do this". That person clearly had political motives. There was an entire political team on board. The decision to prosecute, the issuing of warrants, the way it all was framed and announced to the press.... All of it was a political hit job. One done by people who do not care if they have to frame people for felonies to get the political win.
90% of this country is trying so hard to avoid looking at what is happening so they don't have to reach unhappy conclusions. At some point one of these is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back.
This case was a debacle from the start. But for the instigation and support of the FBI (our tax dollars BTW), there never would have been any conspiracy. It’s pretty sad when, in the middle of a national crime wave, the FBI has to run around CREATING crime so they can stand up and shout, “Hey, look at what I did!” How about we put those resources to work against real,crime? Just saying.
The resources were put to perfect use for their goal.
Real criminals are dangerous. It's a lot safer to frame harmless idiots.
The Chron did print a story about this. About 6 column-inches at the absolute bottom of the last page of the main news.