Free Speech Supporters Shouldn't Cheer These Libel Suits Over Election Claims
Plus: Russia attacks near the Polish border, Texas must pause trans kid investigations, how environmental regulations hobble progress, and more...

"First Amendment scholars" cheer against a free press? A strange piece in The New York Times—headlined "First Amendment Scholars Want to See the Media Lose These Cases"—delves into defamation lawsuits filed against Fox News, One America News, Project Veritas, The Gateway Pundit, and other right-wing media outlets. The suits accuse these publications of intentionally spreading false claims about voter fraud in the 2020 election and profiting from these claims.
To win, plaintiffs have to show that these outlets acted with "actual malice"—that is, deliberately spread misinformation or acted with "reckless disregard" for facts.
"The high legal bar to prove defamation had become an increasingly sore subject well before the 2020 election, mainly but not exclusively among conservatives, prompting calls to reconsider the broad legal immunity that has shielded journalists since the landmark 1964 Supreme Court decision New York Times v. Sullivan," notes the Times.
Critics include politicians like former President Donald J. Trump and Sarah Palin, who lost a defamation suit against The Times last month and has asked for a new trial, as well as two Supreme Court justices, Clarence Thomas and Neil M. Gorsuch.
[First Amendment lawyer Lee] Levine said a finding of liability in the cases making their way through the courts could demonstrate that the bar set by the Sullivan case did what it was supposed to: make it possible to punish the intentional or extremely reckless dissemination of false information while protecting the press from lawsuits over inadvertent errors.
But finding that media outlets actually knew (or should have known) the election-fraud claims they aired were false is a tall order. When the president and some top Republican officials and lawyers were making such claims, is it really that off-base to think some in media might have truly believed them? Or at least found them worth reporting on credulously?
Even if you're cynical about, say, Fox News staff being true believers in election-fraud narratives, it's not outside the realm of possibility. And if the courts rule otherwise, that seems likely to weaken press protections across the board.
Remember, we're not just talking about specific claims made by individuals who appeared on news programs. We're talking about claims against the media outlets as a whole.
Fox's lawyers argue that "the public had a right to know, and Fox had a right to cover" election fraud claims and that the network reported on them in a neutral manner in its straight news segments. As for guests that gave these rumors credence on opinion programs, "giving them a forum to make even groundless claims is part and parcel of the 'uninhibited, robust and wide-open' debate on matters of public concern," the network's lawyers say.
That's true, whether you like the way Fox and other right-wing outlets covered Trump's election fraud claims or not.
Supporters of free speech should be very wary of letting the courts decide that reporting on or sharing opinions about widely disputed events is illegal unless it toes a certain line. Even if you can't spare much sympathy for some of the outlets now being sued, their losses could have ramifications far beyond these specific cases and outlets.
The Times reports that if Fox prevails, "the argument that the actual malice standard is too onerous and needs to be reconsidered could be bolstered." But if it loses, the standard would have lost its teeth anyway.
UKRAINE UPDATES
Russia's attack on a Ukrainian military base near the Polish border has ratcheted up the stakes in this conflict. The Sunday assault comes a day after Russian officials said that western weapons aid was a legitimate target.
"A large portion of the military aid from the West—one of the largest transfers of arms in history—passes through Poland into western Ukraine, part of the fine line the U.S. and its North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, allies are walking between aiding Ukraine militarily while steering clear of providing troops or enforcing a no-fly zone that Ukraine has called for," reports The Wall Street Journal. "The expansion of Russia's aggression to a target close to Poland also increases the risk of the war encroaching on NATO territory, which the U.S. has warned would be treated as an attack on the alliance."
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan told Face the Nation yesterday that a Russian attack in Poland would summon "the full force of the NATO alliance to bear in responding to it."
FREE MINDS
Texas must stop investigating families of transgender kids. After ruling that Texas must halt investigating a particular family for providing medical treatments to a transgender child, a state judge has now held that government officials must pause all such investigations. The Texas Tribune reports:
The statewide injunction from District Judge Amy Clark Meachum will remain in effect until "this court, and potentially the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court of Texas" hear the case, she said.
Meachum said there is a "substantial likelihood" that lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union and Lambda Legal will prevail in getting Gov. Greg Abbott's directive for such investigations permanently overturned, calling his actions "beyond the scope of his duty and unconstitutional."
FREE MARKETS
Excessive regulations hobble progress. The University of California, Berkeley, may have to cut down on the number of students it can teach in person after a court sided with area residents who say they're concerned about the environmental impact of students. "This kind of NIMBYISM is noxious," writes Ezra Klein in a new column. "The way to ease homelessness in Berkeley is to build more homes for everyone, not keep out a bunch of kids looking to better their lives."
The case reveals the flaws in a 1970 California law "that demands rigorous environmental impact reviews for public projects, and that has become an all-purpose weapon for anyone who wants to stymie a new public project or one that requires public approval," notes Klein. And laws like this aren't isolated to California—nor to public projects. For instance, the permitting process to convert a home from gas to electric power in Santa Barbara can take a year.
Klein draws some of the wrong conclusions from all this, turning the story around into an attack on people who want to see government restrained. But he correctly diagnoses the way excessive regulations—and an environmental movement "organized around saying no" (as the political scientist Leah Stokes put it)—can hobble public and private investments in the future.
QUICK HITS
• An American journalist, Brent Renaud, has been killed in Ukraine.
• A Texas Supreme Court decision thwarts challenges to the state's six-week abortion ban.
#BREAKING: Texas Supreme Court answers question certified by the Fifth Circuit and unanimously holds that state licensing officials do *not* have the ability to enforce #SB8.
The gist: The providers' suit against state defendants is now effectively over:https://t.co/Ry9pJPdIYC
— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) March 11, 2022
• Politician and activist Ammon Bundy has been arrested for trespassing after refusing to leave a hospital where a friend's grandson was being held and treated for malnourishment per an order from the state's Child Protective Services (CPS). Bundy said the baby was "medically kidnapped because a medical practitioner called CPS for a missed doctor appointment" and linked to a page where the baby's grandfather challenges the government's characterization of the situation.
• A former prison in California is now a cannabis farm.
• Why Florida is ground zero for culture war.
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"First Amendment scholars" cheer against a free press?
Free Speech isn't for MAGA.
A more fun way to try libel cases would be to strip all identification of the source and target, and let the jury focus on the words and methods used. Of course, some people might be disappointed that they don't get to judge based on ideology.
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Indeed. The whining though would be deafening when right-wing hacks get convicted and the likes of you start accusing the commies of leaking their names to the jurors.
ahhhh ..........your tds is showing
These lawsuits are little more than a "the least worst/hardest" claim and sort of a hail mary because there's little downside if you lose. The risk of extensive discovery coming out with something you didn't want is almost certain, and hitting the legal threshold against anyone and particularly the media isn't as hard with non-public figures and institutions, but very difficult for those in the public view.
However, perhaps the bigger point is that making a precedent is a dangerous thing when your side does the same thing you're accusing others of doing, but on steroids. How many class-action lawsuits could be filed by MAGAs against the actors such as CNN, MSNBC, the individuals that go on those shows all day long and call out MAGAs as universally racist [and the litany of associated name-calling], general vilification and hatred they sprew. Certainly the case could be made by many of both objective and subjective results.
The same holds true for others such as Hillary Clinton who referred to half the country as "deplorables" and many others. Personally, I think I'll sue Whoopi, just because she's a fat ass.
OT, but ENB really needs to do a series of articles on the impact the conflict in Ukraine is having on the Russian and Ukrainian porn industries.
But finding that media outlets actually knew (or should have known) the election-fraud claims they aired were false is a tall order.
EVERYONE JUST KNOWS
It depends. For example, everyone really does “just know” that Smartmatic was used in only one county in the entire 2020 election. Anyone spreading stories about how they influenced the election is plainly lying.
Now do Covid.
Relevance to a discussion of fraud in the 2020 presidential election?
You could not possibly be that dumb.
It has to work at it.
Oh, she is.
Covid was the excuse used by many democrat election officials to illegally change election rules dumbfuck.
Relevance to the fraud committed by the press/government since March 2020.
Specific example?
Mikey needs a cite!
mikey got tds in his eye .....
No, you do COVID. Or gonnorhea.
Sevo’s Bitch is a little cranky today.
it happens with big a tds case .....
Or dumb. You gotta account for dumb too.
Is your argument fraud is fine as long as it isnt wide spread? Do you think the people of the county they operated in don't deserve clean elections?
No widespread corruption.
Fraud is not fine. Fraud of four Republicans voting twice or voting for their mother is not fine. It is not however relevant to the lie that widespread fraud stole the election for Biden.
Sit down, moron!
and yet, YOU and your ilk ignore the documented cases ..... attaboy, hunter
No one ignores actual cases. We just keep pointing out that it is around .01% nationally, so it had zero impact on the result. Plus most people being caught are MAGA folks, especially in The Villages.
"Is your argument fraud is fine as long as it isnt wide spread? "
Since no system is perfect, fraud is inevitable. Sometimes accidental, sometimes intentional (like the MAGA folks in The Villages), but inevitable. Total voter fraud runs about .01% in every election, give or take a thousandth of a percent or so. A 99.99% success rate is about as good as anyone can ask for.
Unless you want to create doubt about elections because you don't like the outcome.
Saying we don't have "clean" elections is just fact-free hyperbole or, possibly, a coordinated disonformation campaign.
ahhh ...... look at all the dnc XItroll misinformation ........ the 10% big guy and hunter luv ya
I have no idea what the DNC has to say. The are as trustworthy as the RNC, not at all.
The Big Lie is just that. And not even a good lie that seems like it mught be possible. It's the kind of lie you have to suspend your skepticism, your logic, and most of your intelligence to believe.
But the President's Press Psecretary can repeat allegations of election tampering from 2016 without a peep from the press.
"Press Psecretary"! LOL! That made me laugh.
now now ......... the dems are NOT to be questioned/disputed
Everyone, or at least all the plaintiffs, know perfectly well that the election was stolen. And they'll keep stealing them until made to stop. Will judges do their job this year, when they refused in 2020?
Fox's lawyers argue that "the public had a right to know, and Fox had a right to cover" election fraud claims...
Only if its genesis was carefully curated Russian oppo research. Otherwise sowing doubt in our election integrity ist verboten.
Do you think they really don't see it? I don't mean the politicians... The press. All those talking heads gleefully repeating these stories and interpretations.
Or maybe the media felt embarrassed after challenging the 2016 election integrity, and applied their new ethical approach in 2020.
It was the Stacy Abrams race that caused them to see the error of their ways
You mean the Georgia Governor-in-Exile?
She’s selling herself short by trying to stay in politics. She’s a shoe in for the title role in a woke remake of ‘The Blob’.
...a Russian attack in Poland would summon "the full force of the NATO alliance to bear in responding to it."
Let's consider what the full force of NATO actually is.
A bunch of Poles on horseback?
Over 6000 nuclear war heads.
Look, nobody is so stupid....
Oh. Wait.
Thanks for the clarification.
You know who else fought against a bunch of Poles on horseback?
Don Quixote?
Tony has problem taken on a lot of poles, both on and off horseback, and also bareback.
the dems predecessors ......... ah and crew
"All options are on the table."
Funny how one person can pre-determine a unanimous vote from 30 countries.
It took from September 11th to October 4th to get NATO to decide the terrorist attack on New York was a bad thing.
What did the USA ever do for them?
Europe is going to nuke their own energy source? Don't think so.
"The way to ease homelessness in Berkeley is to build more homes for everyone, not keep out a bunch of kids looking to better their lives."
Let me guess what's in the paywalled article, Klein's proposal is for the government to build the housing and give it away for free to the homeless, pay all tuition, fees and living expenses for anyone who wants to go to Berkeley, especially students from marginalized groups, and make the environmental review process that the ecowarriors in California fought so hard to pass not apply to government and make it twice as imposing for private interests.
This is the proof that the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
It's an interneccine domestic squabble between Leftist Social Engineers. Never interrupt when your enemy is about to make a mistake. And when two enemies are about to make a mistake against each other, pop some popcorn, kick back and enjoy the fun!
Ahhh but the friend of ENB is usually my enemy
The commie solution to homelessness has already been tried.
Gulags and starving to death.
Starving a shitload of people to death would be a very green initiative though, so you have to give them credit for consistency on this one.
What about wishing* really, really hard?
*In the 21st century, wishing identifies as protesting.
If there's one thing California parents are in complete agreement on, it's getting their kids into the best college possible, by any means necessary.
Yep, for young people and parents, all that equity bull shit is on pause.
The saddest part is they think USC and UCLA are "the best colleges". They aren't even the best colleges in California, let alone the country.
Texas must stop investigating families of transgender kids.
Reserve that shit for homeschooling Bible thumpers, like everywhere else.
When is the last time that has actually occurred?
Around the time of the last lynching.
The most lynchings in the 20th century occurred in 1901. There were 105. This was during a period of frontier justice, not necessarily racial in nature.
We have had arguably 1 lynching in recent history.
Good thing we have a federal government who is on top of the problem, passing broad new criminal law for the feds to enforce.
I mean, those guys only got life in state prison. They were not even charged federally.
I can see why reason has mostly let this one fly by with just a mention or two.
Do "suicides" count?
Not if the Clintons are involved.
only 1 in recent history? ... was that the attempted lynching of Jussie?
No, it was that poor black nascar driver.
I think the ‘noose’ was only large enough to hang a Barbie doll, but progs gotta prog.
If you think there's only been 1 lynching since 1901, you have a unique definition of lynching. Hell, just Google Emmit Till. Lynching was practically an amateur sport in the South in the Civil Rights era. And in a many cases local Sheriffs were the team captains.
That's stretching the definition of recent by quite a bit. The fact you have to go back that far, or even the 1950s, is proof that they are extremely rare occurrences and not something we deal with these days.
I was responding to the post that said there was only one lynching since 1901. I didn't say anything about how recent they happened, although Ahmaud Aubrey is probably (hopefully?) the most recent one.
come on, do it ........... you know you wanted to throw the raycism whine ......go ahead, make yourself feel better
That isn't what the post said dipshit. It is a lack of reading comprehension that that is what you read it as. He referenced how 1901 was the peak of lynching. He then posted in a separate sentence that in recent history there has only been one lynching. Two separate sentences, two separate thoughts not connected. Might want to take a remedial English course.
Including the transgender therapy intervention in the same article as the Ammon Bundy therapeutic intervention was pretty boneheaded.
Kinda like last week when she said an executive order to look into crypto was a nothingburger right after the story about DHS illegally tracking all money transfers to Mexico without a warrant.
Nobody claimed ENB was very bright.
Ammon Bundy refusing to leave a hospital where a friend's child was being treated for malnourishiment after being removed from the home is now "therapeutic intervention"? Was his hairbrained occupation that got one of his friends killed a "home makeover"?
You really are quite dense.
I am impressed with your specific criticism of my post. I'm particularly impressed by your avoidance of ad hominem attacks.
Think harder about what "therapeutic intervention" might be.
yep ......... keep defending the abuse of the little kids ....... all to make the lgbtxyz mentals happy
I don't say we shouldn't be having a conversation about this, but I also wonder if the Republicans aren't doing themselves a disservice by bringing this shit up months before a probable wave election. It gives the media a narrative they can use to run cover for the failed democrats. Because we know the media won't cover Texas or Florida neutrally, and besides, Texas has gone a little to crazy with some of it's shit.
I hate the prevent defense, but sometimes it's the best strategy. Killing the clock may not be exciting but it's often the best way not to lose when you're ahead.
The left is currently dying on the "must teach 6 and 7 year olds about sex" hill, so...
But the media isn't going to cover it that way.
Just look at the voting issue for example.
"must teach 6 and 7 year olds about butt sex"
Fixed it for you.
Add in free dope and open borders, and the tykes will become Reason libertarians.
chinajoe's traffic guy luvs that ......... makes his hubby a better buttgiver
There is absolutely no chance the Democrats don't get shellacked in the midterms. History, the map of seats, and the higher motivation of Republicans will make that happen.
Even the places that have wingnuts running (Eric "legitamate rape" Greitens in Missouri is a great example) are unlikely to mess it up, even if they manage to win the primary. There are just too many races where Republicans have the electoral advantage. They can give away one or two Senate races and still take over.
The Pennsylvania primary should be interesting. The two leading candidates are a carpetbagging TV personality known for selling snake oil and an all-in (and well-funded) wingnut who literally runs ads with "Let's go, Brandon" chants as the sound. Dr. Oz would be more likely to win the general election, but even saying all the right RNC talking points in his ads, he may not be able to get enough votes in the "T" to get to the general.
As opposed to the wingnuts running on the left side of the aisle? I mean you have people who were afraid Guam was going to tip over and submerge if we stationed more troops there. A congresswoman who said they would pay for the green new deal "with taxes and what that doesn't cover we'll get from the federal government". I could go on, but why bother, it's all about tribalism with you.
Yeah, they are exactly the same type of idiot, just on the liberal side.
I don't have a tribe. I'm a registered independent and vehemently oppose AOC, Sanders, and their merry band of economic dumbasses and most liberal fiscal policies as much as I oppose Jim Jordan, Ron Johnson, and their gaggle of culture warriors.
In general, libertarians are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Because cultural conservatives oppose letting people make their own choices about cultural issues and progressives oppose letting people make their own choices about fiscal issues.
If you want to disagree with what I say, awesome. If you want to put someone else's opinions in my mouth and accuse me of tribalism, communism, or any other unfounded accusation, please try to be more honest in your disagreement.
ahhh .......... chinadoll swalwall, omar jihadi and 10% chinajoe luv YOU
After ruling that Texas must halt investigating a particular family for providing medical treatments to a transgender child, a state judge has now held that government officials must pause all such investigations.
Unless, of course, the medical treatments involve COVID.
judge luvs the family abusing the little girl ..... cuz the dems lgbqwxyz mentals approve,,,,,,,,,
The University of California, Berkeley, may have to cut down on the number of students it can teach in person after a court sided with area residents who say they're concerned about the environmental impact of students.
The fewer progressive doctrinaires spewed out into the world the less lithium is mined for pseudo green energy?
But The Science! lab at Berkeley is so close to batteries that use body hair and mud.
I don't even want to try to wrap my brain around this nonsense.
Students are cows. Nothing but polluting methane factories.
Can we at least milk them or eat them?
Do they still make Black Cow candy?
Why Florida is ground zero for culture war.
Because its governor is going to be the next president?
LOL
#DeathSantis has no chance.
hold your breath ........ and hide and watch .... or are you skeered?
Because, like Kharkiv is a ground zero for the Ukrainian fight against the Russians, it is a place where resistance to the aggressors is occurring?
Because Florida Man?
I haven't seen a good Florida man joke in a long time. I think it was replaced by California person.
A poor substitute. California Person might say lots of stupid things but Florida Man actually does the stupid.
ahhh ........ so you realized the florida person will be prez after the orangemanbad's third term .......
Because the DNC believes the fortifications in NM, NV, AZ, and GA will hold and need to signal to the idiots where they need to gain ground.
#dontsaygay
#sb8ismurder #theabortionpillisnot
Sadly, the fortifications in NM will probably hold. We're poor, Bloomberg is not.
Assuming Hispanics will always vote Democrat? What are you, the DNC?
*has a backbone
residents who say they're concerned about the environmental impact of students.
"Why, just the carbon footprint of the facemasks littering the parking lots should be enough to exclude those people!"
I'm surprised no one has circulated a picture of a sea turtle with a facemask stuck on its head. That would probably get rid of the few remaining mask mandates.
A what now?
Hang on- gotta go do something for a friend
"An American journalist, Brent Renaud, has been killed in Ukraine."
That's it. That's the justification the US needs to declare war on Russia. (Personally I thought their attack on our 2016 election was sufficient.)
#LibertariansForWarWithRussia
You forgetting about the American basketball player they detained? #theygotnext
The WNBA will never recover.
"The only problem with the WNBA is... you're not watching it."
-last season's ad campaign (seriously)
the nba motto a few years back ......... we have a white problem
...
they still haven't recovered........
Ukraine: where NY Times journalist go to die. Or was that where NY Times kills their own reports, circa 1930?
Kyiv, Ukraine: Omelette Capital of the World!
Re: Ukraine
Thusfar, POTUS Biden has done acceptably with laying down two very important markers: Any attack on a NATO member will draw an immediate military response; and, NATO will not intervene militarily in Ukraine. I'm good with those markers.
Shipping weapons to Ukraine? The Europeans can do that. America should not. That Polish border looks pretty porous to me, and smuggling has gone on there for 1K years (no joke).
Right now, we should reinforce the Baltics, and Poland/Romania with US heavy armor troops. That will communicate that we fucking mean business. In any conventional conflict, America will absolutely cream Russia; we will fucking level them. The performance of Russia's military leaves much to be desired. And I think Russia knows it.
Our focus has to be containment in Europe, and actively gearing up for Taiwan's invasion by Communist China, which is next. That is a fight that America can actually lose, so we need to get our ass into gear right the fuck now and start surging naval assets into the Western Pacific.
Meanwhile, Putin is nuking his own economy:
Russian threatens to nationalize departed foreign companies
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-threatened-nationalized-american-companies-215021647.html
Russia has plenty of natural resources. They can ride out the fiscal storm. Their stock market is shut down this week. I don't see Russian's starving in the streets. They've concluded huge coal, gas and oil deals with China, India and others.
Don't forget: They have thousands of nukes, and the capacity to deliver them.
Containment in Europe is a realistic strategy here, considering Ukraine is not a vital US national interest. I am sure the Europeans can figure out a way to discreetly get weapons into the hands of the Ukrainians to keep bleeding Russia's capacity to wage war further west. That is the goal here....stop them from moving west, and degrade their capacity to wage war.
We'll see. I think you're underestimating just how fucked Russia is and how weak China is. I hope China dives into that blackhole.
Like Russians have never known hardship before.
Hey LOS, did you see the recent poll that said a large percentage of Democrats would flee the country, rather than defend it if we were invaded, while an overwhelming majority of Republicans would stay and fight? Like I said all you leftist are chicken hawks who won't actually fight but are more than willing for me, and now my son to fight and possibly die, as long as it benefits you politically.
Since 29% of Americans are Democrat and 27% are Republican, what is your position on the remaining 44% of the country?
It’s not his position it was a poll halfwit.
Correct. He mentioned Democrats and Republicans. I was pointing out that he was leaving out the largest group and was curious as to whatbhe thought Independents would do.
There's an outside chance that Independents were polled as well, but probably not. It isn't as sexy to acknowledge that most of America are outside of the two major parties
Keep grasping for straws... Your side just showed itself to be fucking chicken hawks who are willing to send my son to die for their political ambitions but won't fight themselves. 52% said they would flee. Just keep trying to weasel out of it.
You are still under the mistaken belief that I am a Democrat. Or, more likely, you want to strawman me by pretending I'm something I'm not.
You wouldn't have gotten so upset with the poll results if you didn't learn that way. Keep claiming to be neutral while so obviously simping for the left.
Doesn't read English I see, as I said it was a fucking poll in the first sentence. BTW the vast majority of independents would stay and fight only the self described Democrats/liberals had a large percentage who would free rather than fight.
As I said above, I was assuming the poll didn't recognize independents and wondered what your opinion was on their willingness to fight.
Also, what was the source of the poll? It seems sloppy enough to be Rasmussen.
Yeah, if you don't like the results just bash the source. Typical partisan behavior. Try Quinnipiac.
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3838
"A majority (55 percent) say they would stay and fight, while 38 percent say they would leave the country. Republicans say 68 - 25 percent and independents say 57 - 36 percent they would stay and fight, while Democrats say 52 - 40 percent they would leave the country."
What's your next dodge.
Quinnipiac is a good polling organization. So I stand corrected, they did split out independents.
I can't wrap my brain around leaving if we were invaded. I can't comprehend how anyone wouldn't fight for America. Absolutely insane.
as nelson will join his fellow dems at the front of the refugee line fleeing from the chinajoe invasion of America
“It seems sloppy enough to be Rasmussen.”
Based off what? Your not being at all familiar with its existence?
I'm not familiar with the fact that Rasmussen exists? Since I'm the one that mentioned them I clearly not only know who they are, I'm familiar with their reputation (or lack thereof).
They aren't taken seriously by anyone who understands their poor methodologies. They've been a joke for a long time.
You said a poll was sloppy, but had no knowledge of the poll.
Are you a parody?
True, because despite their bullshit claims, democrats are not patriots. Republicans are. There are exceptions, but not a lot.
Redditors were fucking seething this weekend about India continuing trade with Russia. These dipshits have such poor understanding of history that they don't realize India's relationship with Russia goes back to Nehru, who was a comm-symp. Most of their arms sales are done with the Russians.
India and China are under no obligation to stand up for Ukraine any more than the EU is obligated to buy Russian natural gas. If the western-aligned nations want to do a cancel act on Russia by cutting off their access to things like western credit companies and businesses, that's perfectly fine--just don't act outraged when they work out alternate deals with long-time political and trading partners outside that orbit.
Just a quick reminder as well that India effectively broke Visa and Mastercard's consumer credit monopoly in the country by establishing RuPay and appealing to civic nationalism to convince Indians to use it rather than the V/M juggernaut.
This is why sanctions are useless except as virtue signalling, unless you get 100% buy in.
In a related note, missiles fired from inside Iran impacted near the US consulate in Northern Iraq this weekend. Nothing to do with the now stalled nuclear talks, that were being brokered by Russia, I am sure.
This was always the fundamental weakness of the internationalist philosophy going back to the League of Nations--it always frames humanity in romanticists terms as a global population that has the same interests and motivations, irrespective of whether you're a middle-class European, an Arab bazaar merchant, an African villager, or an East Asian CEO. It was always based on a marxist fallacy that placed economic interests above everything else, and ignored how distinct cultures and nations determined those interests on their own, irrespective of how they've been impacted by the elites' ham-fisted efforts to impose the entire globe under a single, planet-wide administrative system for the last 100 years.
In a way, having two adversarial superpowers actually made things calmer in the world. Neither China (which is the closest) nor Russia are true superpowers, but mostly regional powers, but they sure can throw a wrench in the works when they want to.
The mere fact that our supply system is so intertwined with China's is a strategic error in and of itself. Free markets are not supposed to create that kind of dependency, especially with what is a theater-level adversary with the capability to hack our government agencies.
I agree but whenever I point it out, I get told "muh cheap products" and called a slaver.
I’ve been saying this for years. We should completely disentangle our economy with China’s.
"This is why sanctions are useless except as virtue signalling, unless you get 100% buy in."
Then it is some potent virtue and/or some pire, uncut signalling. The Russian stock market can't open because it would crash and a ruble is worth less than a sheet of toilet paper. Imagine what would happen if they did something that actually worked, amirite?
“Imagine what would happen if they did something that actually worked, amirite?”
Putin wouldn’t be currently bombing cities in Ukraine?
Show me one time that sanctions ever stopped a war? They've often extended the wars and sometimes even expanded them. Study what Roosevelt's sanctions accomplished in 1941.
Who said that they would prevent a war. You can't stop someone who is determined to start a war. But you can create an environment where actions have consequences. Painful, destabilizing, internationally-isolating consequences. It's not the present war it might stop. It's making the next psycho fear a personal cost if he starts killing lots of people in an unjustified war.
And all past sanctions didn't stop these actions, so they've never worked. But they have drawn us into wars. So, like I stated useless. Despite sanctions that cripple Cuba and North Korea and Iran they continue their bad behavior, and all those sanctions and the bad outcomes didn't deter Putin. So even as a future deterrent they appear pretty useless.
Perhaps. The problem is you can't measure what didn't happen. So we can clearly see when it didn't work, but can't see how many times it did.
The premise of any sanctions regime is that the target is rational and will respond to . And since North Korea, Iran, and Castro never launched a war, it also isn't as clear-cut as you are pretending.
That said, I am against foreign wars unless they are directly about national defense (actual defense, not the WMD bullshit or the Domino Theory bullshit or the "fight them over there so we don't fight them over here" bullshit or whatever bullshit that gets cooked up next). I don't have a problem arming Ukraine to fight Russia, but we shouldn't be involved in the fighting. Not troops and not a no-fly zone. But history has shown us that ignoring a bully and violent autocrat like Putin won't make him go away. It emboldens people like him.
So I am 100% in favor of the sanctions. I favor targeting Putin himself and his kleptocratic buddies. I believe in using our leverage to change the cost/benefit analysis. And it is working.
I have no clue why Russia can't overpower Ukraine since even if the Ukrainians fight like 10 Russians (which they are), they should still be overpowered.
And granted, this only works because Russia's economy is so small and their economy is so one-dimensional. Plus the whole "nationalization of private companies" thing has prevented large-scale investment in the country. Communism was a shitty system thirty years ago when it collapsed and it isn't any better now.
So that’s a no on the whole studying history suggestion?
I was a history major, so I have spent a lot of time studying history. Especially post-WWII history, which was my concentration.
The fact that I find your analysis unconvincing doesn't mean I don't understand it. I understand the Lost Cause of the Confederacy as well, but I'm not going to buy into it, either.
Nobody believes you were a history major.
Since your belief doesn't change anything you, and the rest of the world that you purport to speak for, don't matter to reality.
Not to mention the fact that when oil producing states like Russia start trading Rubles and Rupees instead of petrodollars we are fucked. Russia, India, China and Syria are already weary of the dollar. When the US uses dollars as weapons they are treading on very shaky ground.
Starving? In glorious Soviet Union, starving is national pastime.
"start surging naval assets into the Western Pacific."
Really, "surge"? Does Omicron mean nothing to you? Too soon, my friend. Too soon.
Don't you people listen to AOC..."surge" is a racist word.
If Biden and leaders of European nations truly want to stop Putin's invasion (and/or remove Russian troops from some/all of Ukraine) and prevent future aggression by Chinese, Iranians, North Korea and others is to reverse his zero carbon energy policies.
But Biden and other Democrats (who prevented new safer carbon free nuclear power plants for 45 years) vehemently oppose US energy independence, and they oppose US companies exporting oil, natural gas (and especially coal) to other nations (including European nations that are now dependent upon Russian oil and especially natural gas.
I really wish someone would be allowed to set up a thorium molten salt reactor as a test project to see if it would be feasible or not.
The fact that nuclear isn't part of our energy strategy is insane.
Found something we agree on.
I think you'd be surprised. Outside of the culture war nonsense I think we'd agree on a good bit.
Look at all the armchair generals here.
Trust the experts, like SleepyJoe. Only his wisdom and keen intellect can guide thorough these dangerous times.
"Any attack on a NATO member will draw an immediate military response . . . "
Immediate being defined as 'as soon as we can get unanimous approval from 30 countries'.
“It’s gonna be game over if you guys damage the climate !”
If you don't think that conversation has already happened within NATO, I can't help you.
Basically the Pentagon and State Department are massive, high-level game theory think tanks. With guns and nukes, but mostly they spend their time trying to plan for every contingency.
In any conventional conflict, America will absolutely cream Russia; we will fucking level them.
But... hmmm.. wait.
They have nukes dont they? Why the HELL would you be so cavalier about engaging in a military conflict with the world's second largest nuclear power? Are you insane?
I am neither cavalier, nor insane.
Yet your argument assumes a conventional conflict.
In any conventional conflict, America will absolutely cream Russia
Which is why Russia would quickly go to tactical nukes.
If only the same zeal had been applied to the Russia collusion fraud perpetrated by the exact same people now demanding repercussions for daring to suggest Democrats rigged the election by illegally changing the rules or stuffing the ballot counts.
It's pretty epic for them to attack 'fake news' after shoving it down our throats for 6+ years.
Really? It’s been “shoved down your throat”?
Caw caw!
Yes, you metaphorically-challenged gaslighter.
How else would you describe the breathless reporting of Russiagate? It was a lie, everybody involved knew it was a lie, yet the 'coverage' was nearly nonstop.
Yet, somehow you found sources of information that gave you the true version.
So, by "shoved down your throat" you must mean that a wide variety of news sources were available to you.
This is what the incarnation of disingenuousness sounds like, folks. Pettifogging metaphors.
Wiped, like with a cloth?
Holy shit this is stupid.
Mike Liarson is a squawking bird named Dee, and should be treated as such.
Excellent "It's Always Sunny ..." reference. Point to R Mac!
> The Times reports that if Fox prevails, "the argument that the actual malice standard is too onerous and needs to be reconsidered could be bolstered." But if it loses, the standard would have lost its teeth anyway.
This is a thinly-veiled threat from the NYT. How can you not see this or not say this?
Well, that ruling might put 1619 at risk . . . .
Kind of like Palin's case against the NYT's malice and reckless disregard for the truth.
You mean the one that got tossed out by both the judge and the jury because it lacjed any substance beyond conservative grievance? That one?
The judge who is accused of jury tampering? Yeah, good point there!!!
Jury tampering? What are you smoking?
His dismissing the trial while the jury was deliberating is pretty much the definition of jury tampering. Especially after he tried multiple times before to dismiss the case but was overruled by superior courts.
You mean using the authority he has as a judge to make a ruling on a move to dismiss from earlier in the trial that was delayed?
That's only jury tampering in the fever swamps of OANN.
@mmirate
I searched the word "onerous" to see if anyone else had called this out. I read: "When progressives lose cases the law should be changed until they win."
And Fox News's dipshittery is the problem? Riiiight...
Fox News and neutral- ha!
In any case, maybe the bar should be high to prove they intentionally were lying (which I believe they all knew they were.)
The real problem is that disinformation and utter bullshit spreads at such a quick rate today, there is no real standard of journalism left (just getting clicks and eyeballs), and as always there are far too many stupid people with their beaks open ready to devour whatever bullshit they're fed.
Maybe the answer is not libel lawsuits and such but there certainly seems to be a problem.
There is a problem: people are really stupid.
It’s not new. People keep wanting communism as if they have no idea how it turns out after a century of trying it good and hard.
Or bad and soft. The USSR limp-dicked into the 90s and failed to perform.
There's no little blue pill for a terrible economic system like Socialism.
All news sources should say the same thing in the same way.
Wait. Youre finally admitting trump russia was misinformation?
As stupid as they all are at Fox, surely the Rachel Maddow and/or NYT "we just made stupid mistakes" defense will be adequate, right?
This seems like one of those things where the solution should be free markets of ideas, not the justice system. In addition to the fact that people and the press have a uniquely protected freedom of speech, the proper combat for 'disinformation' defamation, etc, is more disinformation, defamation etc.
The govt can not stop speech, only punish a few high profile people here and there. If people dont like Fox or CNN, dont watch. Easier solution. And the one liberals prefer, cancel culture.
All that is true, but there really are such things as libel, slander, and defamation, with long-established legal standards for handling such lawsuits.
...but not if you're James O'Keefe. That was perfectly cool. Nor Sarah Palin. She had it coming, too.
Funny how people the narrative dislikes seem to be the ones who deserve to have their cases dismissed.
It is weird watching you defend a company as being worth being able to sue on libel on information that is still not known as false or true.... yet you supported the dismissal of Palin for NYT knowingly printing an untrue statement.
Corporations over individuals? Narrative over truth?
And each case really has its own merits. Palin's suit was an instance where the facts had been sorted out and the truth required just three minutes worth of googling. The paper itself had debunked that narrative years earlier.
Even if Fox was too credulous about election fraud, it was an ongoing story. There wasn't always a clear way to recognize the truth of the claim. And the election lawsuits and the claims being made by people in politics were newsworthy, unlike talking about the false Palin story years after the fact.
I feel like there's a principled position to take that one of those could qualify as libel while the other does not, even if you blot out the names and the positions they're associated with. It could just be my own anti-NYT bias, though.
NYT=Establishment mouthpiece
anti-NYT=anti-Establishment
I'd say you're on solid ground.
Team vs. Team
Tribe vs Tribe——-and I say that without reservation.
'National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan told Face the Nation yesterday that a Russian attack in Poland would summon "the full force of the NATO alliance to bear in responding to it."'
Didn't Sleepy Joe also declare that a chemical weapons attack in Ukraine would be the trigger for US action? Haven't we seen this red line before?
Full force? Germany buying more natural gas from Russia, rather than turning their nuclear plants back on and drilling their own reserves in the North Sea? Europe used to be net exporters of natural gas, not that long ago, 10 years to be exact. Russia helped fund the anti-nuclear movement, while building nuclear plants themselves, to reduce domestic gas consumption so they had more to export. And now look at where Germany is, and the rest of western Europe.
As for NATO membership, just read that the UK military is at its lowest manpower in it's history, 72,000 combined personal, and on the day of Russia's invasion their leadership was holding a meeting on gender diversity, and last week held a meeting on vegan inclusion in the national defense. They have departments in the Ministry of Defense specifically directed at Gender Diversity and Vegan and Vegetarianism. Yeah, we can depend on NATO.
Here's a hint, when they say NATO, they really mean US troops dying for European interests. I think it would be a bad time to pull out of NATO, simply because it would send the wrong message to Putin and Xi, and the rest of the world, but still question our future commitment to NATO.
Here's a hint, when they say NATO, they really mean US troops dying for European interests.
Well, yeah, it's not an accident that we did all the heavy lifting during Allied Force and Odyssey Dawn. I'm not that tore up about their relatively small footprint in Afghanistan the last 20 years because that was always an American-driven operation, even if it had a NATO sticker slapped on the windshield.
Unfortunately, we don't have armor stationed in Europe since 2013, I do an analysis below as to what our current situation in Europe looks like. In short, we deployed one armored brigade combat team since this started, and that is the extent of US armor for the entire continent.
Ever since the end of the Cold War, our forces in Europe have functioned the same way they do in South Korea--there's just enough manpower to conduct a delay/redeployment operation long enough to get the main forces in theater, but it's generally understood that Russia (or North Korea) would be making large gains if they decided to commit all their forces in an attack. The larger cities would probably get wiped out by ballistic missiles long before the Russians ever sent their troops through.
The one consideration here is that the US's military tech is way beyond what the Russians have now. That's why their armor and helicopters are getting wrecked so badly by Stingers and Javelins, and our special warfare guys and legacy air fleet are combat-tested pipe-hitters that could cause Russia a lot of problems in a conventional fight by the time the main infantry engages.
Our legacy air fleet would be busy neutralizing Russian Air defenses. They have a fuck ton of Air defenses, with massive range. Just for a comparison, US ground forces destroyed more armor in the first day of the ground war than coalition air forces did in the entire war during Gulf Storm. That is probably the most comparable as Iraqi ADA was pretty good in 1991, not so much by 2003. Before we can establish air superiority we have to take out those air defense sites, many of which are inside Russia and Byelorus, but have range to hit aircraft inside Poland and Baltics. Plus 1300 mobile SAM vehicles and 750+ fighters. Our airpower will spend the majority of the early portion trying to establish and maintain air superiority. They won't have much left for tactical operations against field units.
It's really been out strategy even during the Cold War. We see the Abrams today as an offensive first weapon, but it was originally designed as a defensive tank that could go on offensive. It's speed was originally designed for quick shoot and scoot from fixed positions to slow Soviet armor, the same with the Apache, pop up, fire and drop back to rearm close to the battlefield. We used to practice this extensively, with annual REFORGER exercises (REinFORce GERmany). The last REFORGER exercise was held in 1990.
"This kind of NIMBYISM is noxious," writes Ezra Klein in a new column. "The way to ease homelessness in Berkeley is to build more homes for everyone, not keep out a bunch of kids looking to better their lives."
By "build more homes for everyone" does Klein mean with government money? If so, then count me as NWMM (not with my money).
What’s the big deal? They will only cost $800,000 each.
More than that now, because inflation.
Mayhe the spittoons in every room fer Chawin' Terbacky will offset the inflation.
And think of the human costs. These kids could have gone to UC-Berkeley. Now they'll have to go to UC-Riverside or UC-Irvine.
How will their parents cope at the next country club dinner?
Tulsi goes off on Romney and brings the facts. Robbie is a terrible judge in character.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1503334085011288064
The narrative checkers have been working overtime to claim there are no bio labs despite admission by Nuland and the DoD. Both cited by Tulsi. How do they do this? They add adjectives like bioweapon lab or US owned instead of funded.
They also claimed for two years that Fauci didn't fund gain-of-function research in China, and that it was impossible for covid to have leaked from the Wuhan lab.
You'll pardon me if I am somewhat skeptical of their denials on this.
GG eviscerated this line of thinking a couple days ago. It's the exact same research, but since we don't CALL it bioweapon research, it's not!
The problem is, is that to develop defenses to bioweapons, you almost have to develop bioweapons themselves. Normal anthrax isn't very fatal to humans, as the spores are generally to large to get into the respiratory tract. To test the effectiveness of existing vaccines, or new vaccines, you need to expose lab animals to weaponized anthrax. So, by it's very nature, even defensive research pretty much has to start with offensive research and work backwards.
The US doesn't technically conduct offensive bioweapon research, it's technically against the law. But we have always done a lot of research on how to defend against bioweapons (partially because the Soviets spent a ton of money on offensive bioweapons, North Korea is suspected of doing the research and so is China and Iran, and Japan did use them in World War II).
I'm not certain why they were conducting this research in Ukraine vs at Ft Detrick, and that definitely needs to be answered. I suspect it's another case of gain of function research. Maybe the answer is for the US scientist to be allowed to conduct gain of function stateside so we can keep a better eye on it, rather than farming it out to others. Our ban just encourages research to be conducted outside our control, because many in the world don't seem to be in favor of going with us in this ban.
"I'm not certain why they were conducting this research in Ukraine vs at Ft Detrick, and that definitely needs to be answered."
I suspect that you already answered it.
"The US doesn't technically conduct offensive bioweapon research, it's technically against the law.
"We're not conducting offensive bioweapon research, that's illegal. It was the Ukrainians."
And we don't torture people, we have enhanced interrogation techniques!
Also, special rendition.
Doing defensive research basically involves doing offensive work and working backwards from their, is my point. I suspect the better answer is gain of function and other research techniques that are restricted in the US. I doubt the US is actively weaponizing bio agents, because we lack the expertise, training and equipment to deploy them. Instead we are using foreign contractors to work around some short sighted regulations that hinders our defensive research.
Our NBC units are strictly defensive except for the nuclear units. We've pretty much destroyed all our weapons that can deploy bio or chemical agents, and the few that remain have been retired and not maintained other than for safety, and are marked for destruction. It isn't something you can turn on and off. It would take lead in time.
Our NBC May be strictly defensive but I find our MSNBC to be quite offensive!
LOL!
State department refuses to release how much "climate czar" Kerry is getting paid or the cost of all his private flights he takes to yell at us for turning on a light. Claim they will hold up FOIA until 2024.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/how-much-are-taxpayers-paying-climate-czar-john-kerry-he-wont-say-but-one-gop-senator-is-demanding-answers
Why are we still using the filthy Russian word Czar? It's time to stop. #istandwithukraine
Why indeed? This is a Republic, not a Czardom!
"Use Comrade Commissar to show your support for the glorious Green Climate Revolution!"
We should go with ayatollah now.
Ayatollah? I like it! And let start callywhoever sits in the Oval Office “Imam!”
(May as well call a spade a spade in terms of where we’re headed with leader worship.)
Also, they’re misspelling Tsar.
Curious how a government agency can determine how long they will make you wait for information we are undoubtedly justified to receive.
And the vital reason for keeping that a secret is,..what?
Corruption.
Fuck you, that's why.
If they told you, they’d have to imprison you…in solitary (opposed to killing you like under Stalin. Things are improving!)
If he is doing government work, why isn't he using government contracted travel like all the other government peons?
How dare they.
Cdc study shows death as reported as 1.3% of side effects.
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/deaths-represent-13-side-effects-reported-covid-vaccines-peer-reviewed
Died with side effects or from side effects?
No WIDESPREAD death from the vax.
Remind me the death rate of people that catch Covid?
Everyone?
So the vaccine has a IFR higher than the disease? Totally safe and effective.
The paper says that of all the reported side effects, 1.3% were death. It is a study of the first 340k reports to VAERS covering 299 million doses. So the death rate for the vax would be 4420 deaths in 299 million shots or 0.0015% per shot. Still, 4420 deaths is far greater than 32 or so it took to stop the giving out the 1976 swine flu shot.
Ah got you, I stand corrected.
So the "cure" has a higher death rate than the disease.
It really has been nothing more than a mechanism to funnel billions of taxpayer dollars into politicians and the elites pockets.
Cleanest election ever.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/michigan-official-charged-ballot-tampering-misconduct-2020-election
Funk is accused of intentionally breaking a seal on a ballot container so the votes could not be counted in an anticipated recount. Funk was running for reelection, and narrowly prevailed in the unofficial count, Nessel said.
Lock her up!
No widespread seal tampering.
CITE????? <——-Widespread sealion tampering, on the other hand….
I actually live half an hour from Flint Township and know people that live there. Curious to hear their reaction.
We mustn’t Clash with the narrative so …Overpowered By Funk!
"The right to free speech" does not include the right to damage someone's reputation, just like "the right to own a gun" does not include the right to murder people. A reputation should be thought of as akin to property - it has value and most people derive a certain amount of their livelihood from the value that their reputation has. If someone damages that reputation by making false claims, then that damage should be actionable in court, just like any other violation of the NAP should be actionable in court, and it doesn't matter if it's Fox News or your Facebook friend making the damaging claims.
Yup.
You know that when other commenters write things like, "Yet another confirmation that White Mike is more than happy to gently tongue jeffy's taint," that it is meant figuratively, right? A lack of evidence that you actually do so gently and not "with gusto and a copious amount of suction," would not be sufficient grounds for legal action.
Lmao.
It's when Jeff and Mike try to claim that they're both "real libertarians", while surreptitiously attacking free speech like this, that really makes me laugh.
Not sufficient grounds, no…but plenty of probable CAWS….
Unless you're Sarah Palin. Never forget that. SHE deserved to be slandered and liabeled. And Hulk Hogan was wrong to go after Gawker.
You've already demonstrated that you have no principle, you only want revenge. So go ahead and make up whatever standard you want that yields the desired result that you want - to "pwn the libs". Who cares about the principles associated with libel, or even the merits of the case? What's important here is that if the Sarah Palin/NYT suit gets tossed out, then the Dominion/Fox News suit should get tossed out too. Because "what's fair is fair", right?
Simping for your lefty neighbors again, eh, fat boy?
Odd, you are the one showing no principle in this argument as I discuss below.
Well he’s a liar, so…
You've already demonstrated that you have no principle
Jeff is paid to come here every day and lie, and lie, and lie, and then lie some more. And he knows he's lying and we know he's lying, and he knows that we know he's lying, but he still lies anyway.
And yet here he is claiming that damikesc has no principles.
What a clown.
I don’t call him Lying Jeffy for nothing.
"You've already demonstrated that you have no principle, you only want revenge."
I'd prefer consistent treatment of people, but you do you.
"Who cares about the principles associated with libel, or even the merits of the case? What's important here is that if the Sarah Palin/NYT suit gets tossed out, then the Dominion/Fox News suit should get tossed out too. Because "what's fair is fair", right?"
Can YOU explain why the treatment should be different?
As pointed out, the NYT was aware, YEARS earlier, that the Giffords shooting had literally zero to do with Palin.
So, THAT is just too far, but FNC reporting on ON-GOING disputes is clear-cut malice and slander?
Really?
In the future, everyone will be sued for 15 minutes.
And all depositions will by by Tik Tok.
It is amazing how you dont care about being a hypocrite. You have often used Trumps calls to reform libel laws on public figures as an attack on free speech. You were against Palin suit. Do you have any principles?
Yes, chemjeff has OBL's principles.
#IfItHelpsTeamBlueIAmIn
A reputation should be thought of as akin to property - it has value
Should that value be measured in rainbows, unicorn farts or NFTs?
It is hilarious to see you hate me so much that you actually argue against the proposition that reputations have value.
Let's spread a rumor that you're a child molestor, then you'll see what your reputation is worth to you.
I certainly don't care enough about you to rise to the level of hate. Your posts are like mosquitos. I will certainly swat them if I see them, but I don't waste hate on them.
And you avoided my question. How is that value to be determined? If a claim has no basis, then what is the basis for the damages caused by the claim? Any provable negative outcome from the false claim, the actual damages, are the direct result of people who believed the claim and they are not typically party to such action. Except employers, of course, because fuck those guys.
Justice is not supposed to be arbitrary, but to make the parties whole. A nominal award makes a public notice that the claim was proven false. Again, if your reputation is that fragile, it wasn't worth much to begin with.
I defer to Joan Jett on that.
I agree with this. It's not free speech when it's a lie intentionally aimed at trying to hurt another individual, especially if the allegation involves criminality.
It is moot. Those with enough money can defend their lies until it no longer matters. But as long as the precedent exists, people can be sued into oblivion for telling the truth. The proper response to bad speech is good speech. If you can't defend your own reputation, then you don't really have one.
Besides, as long as you labor for the correct party, reputation does not matter. Just ask Jeffrey Toobin.
Truth is always going to be an absolute defense against a defamation lawsuit. If a man is falsely accused of rape, the person accusing him should be liable for the harm done to his reputation. Just like Richard Jewell didn't deserve to have his own reputation harmed by a callous media framing him, and he deserved to be made whole.
Truth is always going to be an absolute defense against a defamation lawsuit.
Sure it is. But it will not protect you from the process, which a person of means can drag out for years, can leverage with paid conspirators, and which the courts have no remorse about allowing to punish you until the outcome is final.
That's why you go after attorney fees too.
The computer tech that revealed hunters laptop was told by courts to pay 250k in legal fees to Twitter after his libel suit was dismissed.
Russia's attack on a Ukrainian military base near the Polish border has ratcheted up the stakes in this conflict.
Wait. I thought the entirety of Russia's armored divisions rusted solid 100 yds. West of the Ukrainian border?
Here's a fun thread from the reddit legion
https://twitter.com/MogTheUrbanite/status/1503207784334204928?t=BHIpA3fD9CKYoGnuImIkdw&s=19
Aftermath footage from the missile attack on barracks of some of the volunteers.
Looks like some Redditors got made into chutney
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I've been saying for awhile, if you look at the strength of the Russian military vs Ukraine's, Russia hasn't thrown it's full weight into this, for two weeks now. They are using outdated tanks, rather than their newest classes of tanks. The response is, well they don't have as many of those. Yeah, that's my point, they're saving their best equipment and best troops by extension (you don't give you worse troops your best equipment) because they're fighting this on the cheap. Don't buy into the media narrative that the current war is a sign that Russia is a paper tiger. It may be hollow, that once you crack it's outer layer, the rest is shit, but it's cracking that outer shell that is costly. We have an edge in most conventional arms (although artillery we have fallen behind after 20 years of neglect in this department, which is sad because US artillery has always been our strongest suit) but it won't be the cakewalk so many people feel it would be. Especially as we haven't deployed many heavy units to Poland (one armored brigade combat team) and the Baltics, just light infantry brigade combat teams for the most part. And light infantry vs tank and mechanized infantry, well it doesn't pan out so well.
Also, we would have more difficulty establishing the air superiority we would need to run the CAS missions the infantry would rely on to stop armor and mechanized infantry. We would do it eventually, I am sure but how many lives would it cost in the process?
In a conventional war, I think the Baltics are almost indefensible at this point, and Poland would be a delaying game until we could rush our heavy units to Germany to mount a counteroffensive. We haven't fought that kind of war since Ridgeway retook Seoul early in 1952, and arguably not since late summer 1951. Our infantry would be relying heavily on the Poles for armor supports and while they have plans to upgrade to modern artillery and armor, most of their (small) armor and artillery is leftovers from the Soviets.
Germany could forward deploy their armor, but due to lack of funding their crews are undertrained, and there aren't that many either. Combined the Polish and German armies could field 120,000+ troops and about 300 tanks.
The French have the strongest and largest army on the continent, but the French have also made noise that they may not honor section 5 of NATO, since this all began. Even still, French armor and mechanized infantry would take several days to weeks to deploy. They also don't have a lot of armor, 222 LeClerc MBT, which are as good, if not slightly superior to the M1A2 and Leopard 2 the Germans have, and the Poles have 10 Leopard 2. However, combined, the German armor and French armor would prove a potent force, once it arrived. By that time, US armor should be arriving from stateside as well.
With available air NATO is slightly outclassed by Russia, but moving air is much quicker, and we could probably have a carrier in place in under an day, and another in place in just over a day (but leave some other theater without a carrier), by that time, USAF stateside units should be able to deploy to Germany, and heavy bombers can hit targets in Europe from stateside bases. Russia has a lot of air defense artillery, and can hit NATO aircraft in Poland from Byelorus and Western Russia, not to mention mobile units). This will neutralize some or most our CAS capabilities during the initial week or two. To neutralize Russian Air Defense we would have to hit the installations in Byelorus and Western Russia, which would further strain our air power, as these would necessarily be some of the first targets we'd need to hit (they are also targets for cruise missiles). Hitting targets in Russia with airstrikes and cruise missiles greatly raises the risk of nuclear exchange.
Summary, US armor is very light (we have no stationed armored units and have sent one armored brigade combat team, which consists of 2 armor battalions, one mechanized infantry battalion, one cavalry squadron and associated support, including a battery of self propelled guns), and would rely heavily on European indigenous units for the bulk of armor support. It would probably take a week to gain air superiority, but longer for air supremacy. So, by my estimation we'd have to fight a defensive battle for at least a week or longer.
I think it's unwise to underestimate Putin's capabilities here. As you pointed out, he hasn't committed his best troops or his best equipment to this attack. That could be because he underestimated the Ukrainians, or he could be just holding it back for NATO. My only hope is, Biden Inc isn't stupid enough to get involved, but gas is expensive and everyone hates him, so who knows. An American journalist was killed in Ukraine recently. Maybe we'll start bombing soon in retaliation.
I think the other option on the table is that Putin is willing to grind this out for as long as he needs to in order to get what he wants out of Ukraine. He's basically got all of Europe by the balls right now, and all he needs to do to get what he's after is just hold on long enough. If he wanted Ukraine, he could've taken it. Ukraine can only hold out so long without direct involvement from NATO, and I think Putin can blunder forward longer than Ukraine can hold out. Putin wants the breakaways, no NATO or EU, and a friendly government, and every day this goes on, he's one day closer to getting it.
How was Afghanistan able to hold out?
"Supporters of free speech should be very wary of letting the courts decide that reporting on or sharing opinions about widely disputed events is illegal unless it tows a certain line."
Kinda cute that you believe these groups support the concept of free speech in spite of YEARS of evidence to the contrary.
You tow a lion. You toe a line.
And Jeff and Mike troll a line.
"Why Florida is ground zero for culture war."
Because Lefties think grooming 8 year olds is the most important thing humanly possible to do.
Note that this is the state which almost elected a meth-snorting batty boy as its governor because the media was determined to prop up him as the next Obama.
It's amazing even to me, I, Woodchipper, who has such a low opinion of the degenerates and weirdos who run public school. Even I am amazed at how passionate they are about the need to talk explicitly with six year olds about masturbation and gay sex. wtf.
One might almost suspect they’re pedophiles.
Can't bring about the fall of civilization without creating massive degeneracy.
Its like after being called out for the modern interpretation of Nazi racial categorization behavior (their implementation of CRT) they said : "OK, hold my beer"
I have had the same response. Almost have to check myself to see if people are actually, with a straight face, arguing that we need, nay we must, be addressing sexuality and queerness with K-3rd graders. Like what the literal fuck.
They've even lost Bill Maher on this, he said the real point is maybe we shouldn't be teaching sex to very young kids period. Then again, lately Bill Maher has said he's had enough kool-aid and doesn't want anymore.
So if Fox et al are guilty for repeating others' assertions when there was little evidence to support them are the left media similarly guilty for asserting the Hunter Biden laptop emails were Russian disinformation? "Former officials" signed on to that assertion relying on no evidence so allied media would have a justification to report it.
"Michael Flynn Invokes Fifth Amendment Before Jan. 6 Panel"
[...]
"The Trump ally and former national security adviser is the latest high-profile witness to sidestep questions from the House committee by citing the right against self-incrimination..."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/us/politics/michael-flynn-jan-6-committee.html
When the 'crime' is whatever they make up on the spot, seems like a wise choice.
If Flynn had not learned by this time not to talk to government agents under any circumstances, I would seriously question his intelligence.
Well, he is a former general, so that opens it up for debate regardless.
A+. Never talk to the police.
Questioning the intelligence of ANY National Security Adviser seems a good rule of thumb.
Never talk to the police. He learned that lesson the hard way.
January 6th committee, what’s that?
— Reason
Relax, Reason, if you just keep repeating “January 6” to yourselves at the next editorial board meeting you’re bound to have an Epiphany…
Observing one's Constitutional rights is now "sidestepping".
If hell does exist, the circle reserved for the people running the NYT must be a sight to behold.
It’s actually quite pleasant here.
*golf clap*
That handle would be worth it for just this joke, but you might get some use out of it over the next couple weeks.
Have you tried posting under that in the NYT comment sections? I wonder how long you’d last…
Sort of like paying the minimum legally required tax is "tax dodging".
https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1503218356651966464?t=5smFMBPUeNYixwBt44waKA&s=19
Interesting that you're starting see more claims about a Russian WMD scenario just as Ukraine's military is cracking and its major cities are being encircled.
Fortunately, the media has convinced everyone that Ukraine is winning, which makes a "Saddam has WMDs" operation easy.
Makes sense to me that Russia would use WMDs of some sort after all this time, right when negotiation with Ukraine appears increasingly possible, and after the warmongers have said that WMD usage would trigger direct intervention
Published just a few hours ago lol, it's in the air
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Personally if I thought I was gonna win a war against a single direct opponent, I would use WMDs and have NATO join the party
Nuland's testimony the other day didn't even make any sense. Why would Russia need our labs in Ukraine to build bioweapons? If they wanted to launch a bioweapon attack they already have the capability.
The Soviets led the world in bioweapons research. The Russians still control most of those labs, I doubt they let that capability degrade to much. If it is one thing Russia has in abundance, it's lots of open space to conduct dangerous research in.
>>Fox News staff being true believers in election-fraud narratives
I'm not Fox News staff.
The better the hysteria, the better the ratings and better the income.
It's about market segmentation. Every now and then people should screen the cinema classic "Network".
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1503334079667658752?t=uMobxgJ6Gx2LG6Px9TsZrw&s=19
.@MittRomney, you have called me a ‘treasonous liar’ for stating the fact that “there are 25+ US-funded biolabs in Ukraine which if breached would release & spread deadly pathogens to US/world” and therefore must be secured in order to prevent new pandemics. Bizarrely, ...
... you claim that securing these labs (or even calling for securing these labs) is treasonous and will lead to a loss of life, when the exact opposite is obviously true. The spread of pathogens is what will cause the loss of life, not the prevention of such spread.
Senator Romney, please provide evidence that what I said is untrue and treasonous. If you cannot, you should do the honorable thing: apologize and resign from the Senate.
Evidence of the existence of such biolabs, their vulnerability, and thus the need to take immediate action to secure them is beyond dispute:
#1. State Department’s Victoria Nuland acknowledged such labs containing dangerous pathogens exist in Ukraine in her testimony to the US Senate (March 8, 2022): “Ukraine has biological research facilities which, in fact we are quite concerned that Russian troops may be seeking...
...to gain control of. We are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.”
#2. Pentagon Fact sheet (March 11, 2022) has numerous statements directly & indirectly confirming the existence of such biolabs. [Link]
“The United States, through BTRP, has invested approximately $200 million in Ukraine since 2005, supporting 46 Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and diagnostic sites.”
#3. CBS Face the Nation (March 13, 2022) correspondent David Martin said a Pentagon official told him they’re concerned about the existence of such biolabs in Ukraine: “The concern is that the Russians will seize one of these biomedical research facilities that Ukraine has...
...where they do research on deadly pathogens like botulism and anthrax, seize one of those facilities, weaponize the pathogen, and then blame it on Ukraine and the US, because the US has been providing support for some of the research being done in those facilities.”
#4. In April 2020, in refuting Russia’s accusation that U.S. is using biolabs in Ukraine to develop biological weapons, U.S. Embassy in Ukraine acknowledged there are U.S. funded labs in Ukraine working with pathogens for vaccine & other peaceful purposes [link]
#5. CNN fact-check (March 10, 2022): “There are US-funded biolabs in Ukraine, that much is true.”
#6. Furthermore, according to the DoD there are two biolabs in Ukraine that have been under Russian control for some time: “Russia illegally took possession of two Ukrainian-owned laboratories that BTRP upgraded in 2014 and continues to deny Ukrainian access to these facilities.”
So, Senator Romney, you have a choice: out of pride, continue to deny the truth or admit you are wrong, apologize, and resign.
Aloha.
And remember that without the truth, we can be neither safe nor free.
I'd like to know why the fuck Romney thought it was advisable to signal-boost a former Congresswoman with no real political influence, and parrot the same silly conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton bandied about as cope for her own political stupidity.
Seriously, Gabbard became a non-entity the second she shanked Kamala in the second debate. Her politics aren't all that different from Bernie's, other than she's less of a sperg about it. What possible utility did Romney see in calling her out, other than she's not screeching about how we've always been at war with Eastasia?
Gotta protect the narrative. High profile non-warmongers must be countered in sll instances.
Plus, Romney has Biden-style interests in Ukraine.
TDS?
He was riding high off the endorsement of Robbie.
Go Tulsi. And fuck Joe Biden and Mitt Romney. And now that you mention it, fuck Robbie Soave.
Can I literally fuck Tulsi?
A little off-topic, but I think most of the "conservatives" here would vote for Gabbard despite her being a Bernie-type lefty, over a neocon warrior and Davos man like Romney.
Conversely most of our Jeff, Shrike and Mike lefties would vote for Romney and Cheney over Gabbard, any day.
the current left: the party of Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney. No surprise they are foaming at the mouth for war
God, talk about a horrible choice. I like Gabbard's more dovish principles, but the rest of her ideology is so functionally awful that it's hardly comforting to know that we won't be getting in to a bunch of overseas adventures while she's clapping our cheeks elsewhere.
I do wish Trump had picked her for SoS. That's a good spot for her. Sane, pragmatic foreign policy, little to no domestic influence.
Go Tulsi. And fuck Joe Biden and Mitt Romney.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1503376516234817537?t=A-qpXOpEtlzhUrWXBrns5Q&s=19
At least since 2002, I've not seen US corporate media so openly equate "US officials say" with "unquestioned fact."
A huge portion of war headlines use this model:
"X, Y and Z Happened, US officials say."
1st paragraph:
"Today, A, B and C took place, a US official tells us."
You would think after the WMD's "US officials" would have lost a ton of credibility.
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1503386195132305410?t=eM3NerdLtww6fmy7FGQDYQ&s=19
Thieves are stealing fuel due to rising gas prices:
"While some thieves use rubber hoses to siphon fuel out, we are seeing modern day thieves use power tools to drill a hole in the gas tank and steal fuel"
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Predictable and predicted.
Although the drill through the gas tank method is savage. Locking gas caps don't help you there :/
Time to re-install the car alarm-flame thrower kit.
From my favorite 007 movie For Your Eyes Only
https://youtube.com/watch?v=n1Ug4I89c98&feature=share
In Billings they just shoot gas thieves. J/K, the guy was armed and going for his gun while resisting arrest for outstanding warrants and operating a stolen vehicle, after the cops were originally called to the scene for a report he was siphoning gas.
Seems believable. 😉
The body cams backed it up as did the witnesses.
Politician and activist Ammon Bundy has been arrested for trespassing after refusing to leave a hospital where a friend's grandson was being held and treated for malnourishment per an order from the state's Child Protective Services (CPS). Bundy said the baby was "medically kidnapped because a medical practitioner called CPS for a missed doctor appointment" and linked to a page where the baby's grandfather challenges the government's characterization of the situation
Knowing nothing else, I am inclined to believe the Bundy family is being targeted with malicious actions from their enemy, the state.
Lefty Jeffy was bragging about this case this weekend. He’s the one true libertarian though.
Does anyone know what the heck this is really all about?
Forgive my ignorance. The only Bundys I k is are Al, Peg and Ted.
Why Florida is ground zero for culture war.
Get rid of public school. Problem solved.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1503396810735464450?t=iIAVovSsYl_yppmPBisqrg&s=19
Aren't these the same 'nudge unit' people from the Covid era?
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"Texas must halt investigating a particular family for providing medical treatments to a transgender child"
Chemically castrating a mixed-up child with body dysmorphia (or who has a mom with Munchausen by proxy) will never ever be a "medical treatment", ENB. It's an assault.
"First do no harm" means nothing to these cultists anymore.
The trans delusion in our time and its effects will be looked back on by future generations with horror.
The same way that we now look at witch-burning and sacrificing humans.
"Chemically castrating a mixed-up child with body dysmorphia (or who has a mom with Munchausen by proxy) will never ever be a "medical treatment", ENB. It's an assault."
I ask again, how is she working at a libertarian outfit and not for Salon, Huffpost, or Vice news. Calling this a "medical treatment" is Jeff level dishonesty, and is clearly being done to simp for the very far left agenda.
Not to mention these teachers and administrators are actively undermining parental responsibility and authority by lionizing LGBT sexual identities in the schools (because in our Maoist-inspired school system, if you're white, it's a way to identify with an oppressed class and unburden yourself of your supposed privilege), and then acting as parental proxies by telling the kids to deceive their parents about it so the parents don't get pissed off by the grooming going on.
They have been running a local story about a woman who is afraid and moving to CA to flee Abbott's pogrom. She feels he is enabling the people who express disdain when her daughter talks about her penis, which she is encouraged to do for some reason.
The mother does not see her own or her daughter's behavior as attention seeking at all. Notably, she upped her GoFundMe from $11k to $111k once the story got out.
For a really long time, it was considered sexual harassment for a dude to talk about his penis around people who were not interested in talking about or hearing about his penis. But because a dude says he's a lady, it's now appropriate to talk about his penis?
Good point. In my youth, repeated talking about your penis would without question have drawn an expulsion from school. Now it is required that the other kids listen and not judge?
I think they're supposed to validate and praise it now. I'm pretty sure trans women are just incels who have found a way to get women to praise their dicks.
ENB would have a point if she had stuck to arguing that Fox are entitled to a measure of 1A deference for merely reporting accurately what erroneous or outright lying garbage was being said by 3rd parties.
But Fox went well beyond that - and pretending that they did not intentionally promote the lies and the libels just because there may be no smoking email saying, "Go and lie about Dominion and non-existent election fraud" is naive in the extreme.
"Thinking" not "pretending"
Except that they weren't actually lying about Dominion.
Powell, a Black Democrat from Palm Beach County, started repeating that America is “the land of the free and the home of the brave.”
His final words were then: “The land of the free, yet still the home of the slave.”
What a flaming dickbag.
I've said before that I actually don't have a problem with black/Hispanic/Asian/Arab ethnocentrism. It's actually been shown to be healthy when people have a positive view of their own race or ethnicity. What I despise is the pretense that white people aren't allowed the same benefit.
Exactly this. If you practice black ethnocentrism you are authentic, unapologetically black, a hero. If you are white, you are a white nationalist, white supremacist, racist.
They are basically indoctrinating white kids to hate themselves, and hate America
Hey, how are we going to achieve a progressive green Marxist utopia unless we teach enough people to hate fundamental American principles?
They have been my whole life, it's just not subliminal anymore.
Well, I don’t hate myself for being white, but that’s because my “white” is Irish, Scottish and English—as opposed to one of those ice cube chewing perverts (you know, the Dutch!)
The number of people who could plausibly sue FOX News for defamation is uncountable. Remember that whiny little bitch kid who sued because some asshole on CNN characterized him in a way that he found offensive once? It's time for some shoes to go on the other feet. I urge every Parkland kid, Democrat, and lefty activist to consider suing FOX News. Something needs to kill it before it kills us all.
Sandmann already got a nice settlement out of CNN for its defamation and even got to teabag them on their own network for their stupidity.
It's not like the precedent hasn't been sent, so if that little mutant David Hogg wants to sue Fox, he should go for it. It's not like lawfare hasn't been an almost exclusive lefty province for the last 50 years.
If that was true it's only because the right has been trying to turn the constitution into bonfire fuel the whole time. But it's certainly not true now, with conservatives suing women for getting themselves abortions, teachers for teaching anything other than white Christian dominionism, and news networks for hurting their fragile little feelings.
It is impressive how you can be both eternally put-upon victims but also the arbiters of stoic masculine culture at the same time. From the outside I just see a consistent pattern of weak little bitches.
God, what color is the sky in your universe? The left has been trying to rewrite the constitution for almost it's entire existence. They're the ones who claimed it's a living document and meanings change over time. Give one example of the right burning the constitution. Just one.
Patriot act
Nobody buys your bullshit here. Why do you keep spewing it?
If that was true it's only because the right has been trying to turn the constitution into bonfire fuel the whole time. But it's certainly not true now, with conservatives suing women for getting themselves abortions, teachers for teaching anything other than white Christian dominionism, and news networks for hurting their fragile little feelings.
Jesus, the strawmanning and goalpost shifting in here would employ a small ag/construction business.
It is impressive how you can be both eternally put-upon victims but also the arbiters of stoic masculine culture at the same time. From the outside I just see a consistent pattern of weak little bitches.
It's equally impressive how you can be both highly intelligent but eternally outplayed by people with far less education than you. From the outside I just see a consistent pattern of weak little bitches.
For me, the greatest hallmark of the 'tolerance' crowd is that they always lump everybody that disagrees with them together. As if the correlation between conservative and religious fundamentalist is 100%. Except for Muslims, of course.
“Tolerance crowd?”
You mean normal people who don’t hate people because of their orientation, gender, race, or for having a normal religion?
Your religion is evil and has been disproven. It is immoral not to mock it.
Ugh, you are sooooo boring.
Tony thinks making up bullshit is a sign of intelligence.
Tony...go swallow a bullet. You will feel better as will the rest of us.
"Remember that whiny little bitch kid who sued because some asshole on CNN characterized him in a way that he found offensive once? "
The one who the media cut, clipped, presented out of context, and made him out to be an aggressive racist white supremacist (which they called him) when he really was exhibiting standard teenage behavior (*gasp* smirking when an indian guy beats a drum in your face, after a group of black hebrew muslims just called your white group of schoolmates a bunch of "christian faggots")? Ya def some schadenfreude for CNN/Wapo that their race bating whitey hating finally bit them back.
Though the most delicious is going to be the myriad lawsuits that Rittenhouse wins. He's got a good bit of on camera defamation happily put forward by some of the worst lefties in existence that is pretty open and shut. Watching him get rich to the tune of multi millions from the coffers of the worst left wingers on television will be nice. And he also got to ventilate some rioting, criminal, pedo lefties (sorry for the redundancy, I realize those things tend to run together with the modern left). Win win win.
Of course Biden is also guilty of defamation too, but I think the courts would give him some leeway, what with the florid dementia. Its honestly a surprise he hasnt dropped an N bomb on a hot mic at this point.
FOX News lies constantly about everything. You people will make a martyr out of a Nazi murderer because someone called him a Nazi murderer, completely forgetting about the people dead at his stupid pig boy hands. You’re insane and your propaganda network needs to be dismantled.
Still no evidence of him being either a murderer or a Nazi. Some one is lying and it's not Fox News here.
Haha your pedo friends are dead.
Are you still salty about your kiddie-raping, grandma-slapping, drug-addict allies getting capped? Take heart, at least a hood rat took out some white grandmas and little kids in response.
The fact that you're still calling that "kid" names and attacking him, that's kinda provin' his point, ain't it?
Of course you hate free speech.
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Days without a Reason article pleading for open borders by the Fiona-bot: 0
Another stupid take from our "experts"
https://www.foxnews.com/media/russians-are-about-ten-days-away-from-culminating-point-lt-gen-hodges
Russia currently has 150,000 troops estimated to be in Ukraine, with a force of 400,000 troops ground troops overall, counting reserve forces. Total Russian military is between 1.0 and 1.1 million with a reserve force of 2.0 million. They have a combined active and reserve armor force of over 19,000+ tanks, 24,000+ infantry fighting vehicles, 24,000+ armored personal carriers, 12,500+ towed artillery, 5,800+ self propelled guns, 1300+ rocket artillery systems, 2500+ SAM batteries in their ground forces. The bulk is older equipment. They have only acquired a small number of the T-14 tanks for example, but they haven't ran out of personal or equipment, or come close.
And just so we're clear, pointing out the difficulties and dangers of a war with Russia is not supporting Putin. It's simply stating we should be cautious and not buy into the current jingoism.
We should have been this cautious in 2003, and I will admit I bought into it then. And many of the same people who turned Iraq and Afghanistan into quagmires are still the ones in charge of our defense and state departments today.
for providing medical treatments
Quit lying, ENB. You know no one is denying medical treatment to children because they or someone else has labeled them "trans". There's just an effort to protect these children from "trans" quackery that can cause them permanent harm.
An article that justifies spreading blatant disinformation without ever facing consequences.
On brand for a Koch-sponsored rag.
a nytimes or wapo piece, you say........
Hey guess what. USA Today's woman of the year is a dude:
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1503486527921340421?s=20&t=wclbCdMMu19mbW0-F4AgSQ
Not only not a biological male, but a fucking diversity hire at that. She was appointed as a 4 star admiral, having never served in a commission position before. Directed nursing homes to take COVID positive patients, despite being warned against it, and after moving her mother out. Also, the assistant secretary of health doesn't need to hold a commission to serve in that position, they only receive the rank of admiral if they are also serving in as a commissioned officer in the United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, which she hadn't been until appointed by Biden. Her commission was entirely a publicity stunt and unnecessary.
Also, it's weird, but the position reports to the Surgeon General, however, the position (if given to someone with a commission in the uniform services) is an admiral (4 stars) but the Surgeon General is a Vice Admiral (3 stars). Not sure why it works that way. Occasionally, a superior rank will serve under a lower rank but it's usually a temporary deal. But it isn't like it's a real armed service. Hell, it isn't even the fucking Coast Guard.
Not a biological female I meant.
dems luv them mentals .......... we don't have insane asylums any longer, soooo......
"Don't bother trying little girl, all the best women are biological men.
Now go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich."
Say, you don’t suppose the Bionic Woman was…you know…??
Hey, remember when the evil, stupid cunt Elizabeth Nolan Brown wrote a histrionic bitch piece about Christian children being denied medical care when the state made it illegal for any licensed psychologist, therapist, counselor or social worker to present the possibility of changing one's sexual attraction from gay to straight?
Yeah, me neither. Turns out using the violence of the state to forcibly prevent a clinician from suggesting to gay or trans children that they can use behavioral psychology to, you know, change their behavior doesn't violate free speech or any ethical codes. But failing to administer drugs or perform elective, cosmetic surgery on a child against the wishes of that child's parents is denying children medical care.
This is why Elizabeth Nolan Brown is such a piece of dogshit and I would heartily laugh my ass off if she got gang raped, set on fire, and was extinguished using the urine of her rapists.
well ........... you know how it is with people who have cats for kids ...... ie, mentals