Biden's State of the Union Offers More Useless Solutions to Gun Violence
Biden offered a mix of mostly pointless or arguably unconstitutional "solutions" to the misuse of guns by criminals.

President Joe Biden had a few words to say in his State of the Union address about how he intends to curb gun violence—definitely on the rise in the past couple of years—that meet the usual Democratic presidential standard of offering solutions that will largely harass the mostly innocent or do very little to save lives.
"I will keep doing everything in my power to crack down on gun trafficking and ghost guns you can buy online and make at home," he insisted. "They have no serial numbers and can't be traced." True, but the technologies that allow the making of such guns (as well as the old-fashioned wiping numbers off existing ones) are not able to be curbed. Experience in California, which instituted such a ban a few years ago, already shows the futility of such laws, except in making life harder for hobbyists who would never harm anyone with their guns.
Even theoretically traceable guns used by criminals are, in the majority of cases, stolen or not obtained legally, so police rarely have information on file about them that would allow them to be easily traced to a shooter.
"I ask Congress to pass proven measures to reduce gun violence," he added. "Pass universal background checks. Why should anyone on a terrorist list be able to purchase a weapon?" Burdening every private citizen who wants to sell a weapon with all the paperwork hoops a licensed gun dealer must go through seems sensible to many people. However, with a 2016 Survey of Prison Inmates finding only 25 percent of guns possessed by prisoners obtained from friends or family in a transaction that would theoretically fall under that law, and given how hard the law would be to enforce on such friends or family, the effect on guns in the hands of criminals is likely to be marginal.
Speaking of marginal effects, Biden also insisted he would like to "ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines." Although he ended his brief gun discussion insisting that "These laws don't infringe on the Second Amendment. They save lives," a federal court decision (since overturned) did present convincing arguments that the banning of a very commonly used item with relevance to self-defense in the home such as "high-capacity magazines" does violate the Second Amendment. The current Supreme Court would probably agree if the issue came before them.
Rifles of all sorts, of which so-called "assault weapons" are a subcategory based mostly on cosmetic features some legislators and activists find scary, are used in a tiny percentage of gun murders; previous attempts to ban the sale of new "assault weapons" from 1994-2004 had no apparent effect on gun murders. Biden is wrong to expect anything but massive civil unrest and disobedience from an attempt to actually take them from overwhelmingly innocent American gun owners' hands.
Biden also insisted he will "repeal the liability shield that makes gun manufacturers the only industry in America that can't be sued"—a severe misstatement of the facts. The law he references, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, merely makes it more difficult to sue manufacturers for harms caused not by any actual error or negligence related to how they made or sold the gun, but by criminal acts of their customers. Not being able to hold people liable for things not their actual fault is a fine legal principle, and Biden's call to end it is a backdoor call to harm the Second Amendment by driving legal manufacturers and sellers of weapons out of business.
That proposal is of a piece with all his SOTU gun rhetoric, pleasing to his constituents but based more in hostility to overwhelmingly innocent private gun sales and ownership than any effective public policy likely to curb those who use guns to kill.
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"Why should anyone on a terrorist list be able to purchase a weapon?"
Where did the terrorist list come from? Who is enforcing it? Are the fourth amendment rights of people on that list being violated? What about their second Amendment rights? Is there due process?
What exactly is this so-called terrorist list, Joe? Beyond that, are terrorists buying guns a major problem in the US right now? Did your speech suddenly flash back to 2003?
I didn’t know Chicago was full of terrorists.
Chicago has been a hotbed of terrorism for 100 years.
Not to mention all of the gangs.
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It's not just Chicago. They are literally everywhere. For instance, a course in Advanced Terrorist Spotting will inform you that they are most visible at school board meetings. Watch the faces of school board members, and as soon as you see one with hurt feelings, you know it's being caused by a terrorist.
They will also often out themselves by putting a flag on a pickup truck and having the nerve to drive around. However, they gather in large numbers at political rallies that aren't Democrat and show their terrorism skills by not wearing a mask when ordered to do it.
Pro tip: There are also subtle signs that give away even the most astute terrorists like when they neglect to use the proper pronouns.
They are easy to spot. They drive white vans and follow you around Target or the Goodwill. If you point them out to one of the plentiful security guards at Target or the Goodwill, they will still follow you to the parking lot.
Should people on the terrorist list be required to wear a distinctive badge when out in public?
"Why should anyone on a terrorist list be able to purchase a weapon?"
Yup, removing your rights because a bureaucrat said so, without your day in court.
This is the left. "Why should someone accused of rape be able to continue going to school"
They've pushed extra-judicial shit for years, because they are not for justice, they are only for power
Why should anyone on the no-fly list be allowed to fly?
Why should anyone on the no-internet list be allowed to browse the web?
Why should anyone on the no-banking list be allowed to access their savings?
Who makes the lists?
Speaking of marginal effects, Biden also insisted he would like to "ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines."
Vlad agrees.
Ukraine has just this past week been demonstrating the military usefulness of small arms and shoulder-fired Javelin missiles for the defense of a free state. So it seems like the Supreme Court should be extending the coverage of the second amendment, not constricting it.
“the usual Democratic presidential standard of offering solutions that will largely harass the mostly innocent or do very little to save lives”
Exactly as intended. I’ve never encountered a gun control measure that had any other purpose. Their “supply side” approach is only concerned with the implement, not the criminal/ Democratic Party constituent
Aaand Fuck Joe Bi...ummm, that president guy, he used to be a back bench senator, yeah, that guy. Fuck him.
"except in making life harder for hobbyists who would never harm anyone with their guns."
I love this argument. It's perfect for the gun rights people because everyone is a "responsible gun owner" until they turn it on their coworkers, or their kid grabs it out of an unlocked drawer, or any other number of things.
You can always claim there's so many responsible gun owners until their negligence or willful violence makes them not one.
So your counterargument is that everyone is really just a murderer waiting for their opportunity?
Don't forget the part about "for the kids".
And rapist-to-be, can't forget that, for the feminsts.
"You can always claim there's so many responsible gun owners until their negligence or willful violence makes them not one..."
...and then they're criminals. But not until they actually commit a crime.
Or are you advocating for pre-crime? And if so, what other classes of people are you advocating pre-crime intervention for?
care to discuss stats?
So whoever made the SUV used in the parade attack in Waukesha should be liable for the deaths and injuries.
Got it.
Gun control is dead to everyone except the bleating sheep, who still trot it out every time there is any talk of crime. There are hundreds of gun control laws on the books, gun control only works if you aren't a criminal. There are half a billion guns in this country, grow up.
The terrorist who took his guns and his wife to shoot up a Christmas party in San Bernardino was one of the bureaucrats with authority to nominate names for the no-fly list.
So was Leland Yee, the California gun-ban activist, who was caught trying to market machine guns and rocket launchers to street gangs.
the term "gun violence" is much sillier than me asking someone to accurately define the term. So.. can someone tell me what gun violence is?
stopped watching the show after Nancy sprang off her seat a few times, but was there mention of the fact that banning the idiot's description of so-called assault rifles will only drive them further underground and make them less regulated and more available to criminals and less law abiding citizens?
Hey Joe! How about telling those Public Sector Union employees to do their jobs instead of kissing their asses? How about getting them to enter the data into the Background Check Database instead of stashing thousands of boxes of documents so that they can get their bonuses/ How about prosecuting people when they refuse to report someone as required by law, so that they can be placed into the Database to prevent them from buying a weapon?
Oh yeah! By the way, the "Terrorist List" should be different than the Background Check Database. Then again to Joe, Nancy and the rest of the Liberal Socialists, everyone who doesn't bow down and kiss their feet should be on the Terrorist List. FJB.
Joe, tell your security detail give up their 'assault weapons' and magazines first.
And prosecute your kid for his gun crime.
Otherwise, STFU.
Where to begin?
Biden also insisted he will "repeal the liability shield that makes gun manufacturers the only industry in America that can't be sued". I think he misspoke here, he must have meant Phizer, Moderna and Johnson and Johnson. We would not let people sue General Motors over the man in Wisconsin who drove his SUV into a Christmas parade. Why should we let them sue Browning if some misuses their shotgun to kill someone?
As for the terrorist lists, they are compiled by law enforcement sans any court preceding. To deny someone their Constitutional Rights without due process is illegal and unconstitutional. One would hope that a president with decades of government experience and a law degree might actually know this already.