New Report Highlights an Old Problem—the CIA Is Still Snooping on Americans
In a program separate from the ones disclosed by Edward Snowden, we see more mass secret domestic data collection.

Sen. Ron Wyden (D–Ore.), whose oversight of domestic surveillance ultimately led to Edward Snowden's whistleblowing, is alerting citizens that the CIA has been engaged in bulk collection of our private records, much like the National Security Agency (NSA).
Wyden and Sen. Martin Heinrich, (D–N.M.), both members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, requested the declassification of a 2021 report from the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB). The report, in heavily redacted form, was released on Thursday and reveals that the CIA had its own bulk data collection outside the review of Congress and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Court.
This entire program is completely separate from the NSA surveillance that Snowden exposed back in 2013. Then, the NSA contended that Section 215 of the PATRIOT Act authorized the mass collection of Americans' phone and internet metadata to gather information about potential terrorists. It sought (and received) blanket permission from the FISA Court. In 2015, after Snowden's whistleblowing, Congress passed the USA Freedom Act, which banned the government from collecting the data in bulk and set tighter rules for access.
This CIA surveillance is governed by Executive Order 12333, which was first issued in 1981, and is not under the purview of the FISA Court. Nevertheless, there are supposed to be precautions to ensure that the CIA is not secretly reviewing private data sent by Americans domestically. The PCLOB report explains that as part of its financial intelligence gathering on the operations of the Islamic State, CIA employees were able to collect (intentionally or not) significant amounts of data from domestic communications.
And so while this program is separate from what the NSA was doing, it had the same big flaw. While pursuing information on terrorists—what the CIA is supposed to be doing—the agency was also collecting and storing mass amounts of our private data without any warrants or any oversight outside the agency itself.
What sorts of records the CIA has collected has not been declassified, but given the comparisons and the time frame, it's easy to imagine that these are probably telephone and internet records. Wyden and Heinrich are calling for the CIA to provide details on what kind of records were collected and what legal framework they used to justify the collection.
"What these documents demonstrate is that many of the same concerns that Americans have about their privacy and civil liberties also apply to how the CIA collects and handles information under executive order and outside the FISA law," Wyden and Heinrich noted in a joint statement. "In particular, these documents reveal serious problems associated with warrantless backdoor searches of Americans, the same issue that has generated bipartisan concern in the FISA context."
The CIA, of course, has an extremely long history of surveilling Americans for political purposes. The Church Committee was established in 1975 to investigate allegations of domestic surveillance by the CIA, FBI, and other federal agencies. Its findings were, in part, what led to the founding of the FISA Court in 1978 to make sure that our privacy rights as Americans weren't violated by our own government.
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Sen. Ron Wyden (D–Ore.)
Oh, huh, Ron. I wonder what carrot or stick would motivate private service providers to collude with the government against average Americans, their users?
Jack Booted Thug Agencies which are each private unaccountable para Militaries can just make any ceo that doesnt want to play ball end up under home plate.
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They are protecting us from white supremisist conspiracies. STFU.
https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1491967491303747584
You are about to witness an enormous political debate in which the spy agencies and their apologists on TV tell you this is normal and OK and the CIA doesn't know how many Americans are in the database or even how they got there anyway.
But it is not ok.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1492186827679322115?t=9VHHFL1xzbHy5VtGQH947A&s=19
This is really just sad at this point. I almost want to buy one of her hats out of pity.
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That tweet get deleted?
I liked the Michelle Wu video in the feed.
But now for your health and safety.
Ontario court freezes access to funds raised for protest convoy on GiveSendGo platform
This is getting downright scary.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/freedom-convoy-2022-donations-frozen-give-send-go-1.6347345
Truckers are Kulaks…
https://mobile.twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1491899323881295873?cxt=HHwWgsC4ifuhpbQpAAAA
And it's all just a big coinkidink!
but the blockade is keeping covid riddled Zombies from the US from entering Canada.
I thought thats what they wanted?
Do people understand why bitcoin is important yet?
Gotta set up a website to take the bitcoin donations. Then the website can be shut down. Always be looking for your single point of failure.
I can't imagine there isn't one trucker in the whole lot that doesn't have cancer and couldn't use a helping hand.
Some sort of Silk Road, but for truckers.
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yes. Take in real money and not even give back laundry machine tokens.
The Ultimate scam.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210615/10020946997/fbis-recovery-colonial-pipeline-bitcoin-ransom-highlights-how-ban-crypto-to-stop-ransomware-cries-were-wrong-again.shtml
Enough time can unwind any platform of documented transactions.
Send it to their companies instead.
that last paragraph contradicts the news on CBN that said GFM was going to keep the money and send it to recipients of their choice and changed thair minds when States AGs threatened to sue them.
Banks are private companies and can do whatever they want because they aren't the government.
If you don't like how a bank stole your money, put the next money you get in a different bank because the invisibul hand of muh free markut competishun will fix everything in the future Libertarian Moment..
Get rid of unaccountable secret courts.
There's not even an unaccountable secret court here.
These aren't the unaccountable secret courts you're looking for.
if a secret court makes a ruling and no ones around to hear it.....
Or something.
I think we can tell secret courts and cops to go fuck themselves.
This is why you support open political prosecutions in the open. Right jeff?
Have Nobel Laureate Economists weighed in on this?
"Wyden and Heinrich are calling for the CIA to provide details on what kind of records were collected and what legal framework they used to justify the collection."
Why not just arrest the entire management team?
Either this is just peachy-keen fine, or they broke the law.
Dude, jobs have perks. Work in restaurants and you eat cheap or free. Work at a movie theater and you can see all the new shows for free. Work for an airline and you likely have travel benefits.
Work for law enforcement at any level (CIA, FBI, ICE, State Trooper, Sheriff, local PD) and you do whatever the fuck you want. Who is going to stop you? And if your conduct is illegal, who is going to arrest you? What court will convict you?
And yet you openly support the Capitol police. Weird.
Because they protect his democrat heroes.
Cant arrest them Theyre the Spy agency.
Congress knows what theyre doing...
its blEEDin OBVIOUS.
Just keeping us safe from terroist MDM.
Obama, 2009, said there was no terrorism in the US.
He didn't foresee mask-deniers.
he was too busy supporting his terrorist buddies overseas and paying off banks for kickbacks that should be hitting his Swiss banc accounts about........
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.....NOW!
Progressives are probably in favor of the CIA snooping on Americans--especially if the Americans in question oppose mask mandates, oppose vaccine mandates, question the outcome of an election, or oppose their local school boards.
Most of them probably think that's the FBI's real job.
https://reason.com/2021/11/12/biden-administration-school-board-association-colluded-to-direct-fbi-scrutiny-at-parents-who-were-critical-of-school-boards/
I now believe they are just trolling and planning from 1984. Build back better, the big brother chants Bs .
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If by “question” you mean commit acts of terrorism.
He does. Also, parents who "opposed their local school board" with their friendly constructive input consisting of death threats.
Meanwhile I can't help but laugh my ass off at the idea of Republicans not being 100% as bad as Democrats in regards to unaccountability of spy agencies, supporting mass surveillance, and probably worse in that unlike Democrats they want to allow all the same right down to local law enforcement.
Propagandize via the Media.
Collect data via spy agencies.
Correct any deficiencies in mind control by tweaking the messages.
Also while at it, snoop for assets to seize or just fuck with people for fun.
And get paid for doing it!
Damn what a deal! Thats better than Televangelist. Probably more sex too.
Friends of ours that are full on local Democrats are finally getting it, the TDS is wearing off. When the media was crushing Trump they played along. Now, Bill Maher and the whole Whoopi Goldberg thing, not to mention the aggressive WOKE scolds and crime everywhere. It’s a wonderful thing to see people wake the fuck up and open their eyes.
Was the CIA somehow less bad during the Trump administration, or are you connecting culture war nonsense to a disconnected partisan political goal of yours?
Cultural war nonsense authoritarianism that has infiltrated every institution in the world, including the military and security industrial complex. Nothing to see here move along.
BTW, I’m not a libertarian, I’m an independent and vote according to pragmatism, not ideological purity.
They were distracted from the regular citizenry by their singular focus on bringing down orange man bad.
Oh my! Who would have thought! But the CIA isn't who you should be really worried about.
You should be worried about all the other federal agencies that collect every bit of personal, financial, medical, and social information about me and every other American; and that sooner or later will use that information to determine my ability to travel, to obtain medical care, to work, and to engage in financial transactions.
Let's not forget: Ron Wyden voted to extend FISA and he supports the CFPB. The man doesn't give a damn about privacy.
Well, spying on foreigners is hard work, possible a bit dangerous, and what they get paid for, spying on US residents (who know if it's a citizen or "one of those guys"?) is easy and has the thrill of being a little bit illegal.
Which would you expect a government employee to do?
Why bother having the CIA spy on people when tech executives do it for free and fabricate incriminating information on political enemies and hand deliver it to The Party?
https://news.yahoo.com/durham-tech-exec-working-clinton-145141701.html
Corporations can do whatever they want. -Reason