Elon Musk, Artificial Wombs, and the Impending Shortage of Mars Colonists
"Synthetic wombs make having kids much faster, easier, cheaper, and more accessible."

Hysterical headlines are proliferating over a Twitter exchange between Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin, and e-commerce platform Gumroad founder Sahil Lavingia musing over possible world population collapse and the desirability of creating synthetic wombs as a solution.
"Rich men suggest synthetic wombs should replace women," warns Insider Paper. Vice grumbles "Cryptocurrency Titans Newly Obsessed With Artificial Wombs." The always reliable Daily Star declares, "Billionaire crypto geeks say they want to replace human mothers with 'synthetic wombs.'"
This ginned up tempest of online moral outrage all began when Musk tweeted he is worried that there may not be enough people wanting to move to his Mars colonies due to a collapsing population here on Earth later in this century. Collapse may be too strong a characterization, but Musk is right that given prevailing global fertility trends world population will most likely peak around the middle of this century and fall back to about the current level by 2100.
Musk's glum observation about the impending shortage of Mars colonists provoked Lavingia to tweet back helpfully suggesting that greater investments in synthetic womb technology would make having kids much faster, easier, cheaper, and more accessible. Buterin subsequently chimed in with a tweet noting that "synthetic wombs would remove the high burden of pregnancy, significantly reducing the inequality." The convenience of gestating offspring in synthetic wombs would presumably encourage people to have (decant?) more babies, some of whom would grow up to be Mars colonists.
Setting the headline hysterics aside for the moment, how close to perfecting artificial wombs are researchers? Back in 2017, researchers at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia reported keeping premature lamb fetuses alive in plastic bags of amniotic fluid for four weeks. While the researchers' aim is a treatment for saving and bringing to term extremely premature human fetuses, this is nevertheless a step toward developing synthetic wombs for human gestatelings.
In March 2021, a team of Israeli researchers reported their success in growing developmentally normal mouse embryos for up to eleven days inside artificial uteruses. This is remarkable because full mouse gestation is around 20 days. In the future, said Paul Tesar, a developmental biologist at Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, "it is not unreasonable that we might have the capacity to develop a human embryo from fertilization to birth entirely outside the uterus."
Concerning Buterin's suggestion that the advent of artificial wombs could level the economic playing field between women and men - and not minimizing the burdens of pregnancy - the main problem is the subsequent unequal division of the labor with respect to child-rearing.
Let's set aside for the time being the social and ethical issues that safely gestating human babies in bottles raise. Instead, let's focus on Musk's concerns about how to populate his Martian cities.
"Ectogenesis (artificial womb technology) could yield many benefits on Earth and provide a safe and sustainable way to populate an off-world human colony," argues Australian bioethicist Evie Kendall in her 2021 article "Ectogenesis for Space Exploration." Rather than use synthetic wombs to prevent population collapse here on Earth use them instead to populate Mars. Rocketing eggs and sperm to Mars has got to be a lot cheaper than transporting full-grown humans.
Kendall further explains, "Gestating foetuses in a protected and controlled environment could help prevent damage caused by radiation exposure, nutritional deficits or the impact of microgravity during pregnancy. This method of reproduction would also reduce the risks and burdens to female settlers and avoid losing members of the early settlement workforce to maternal morbidity and mortality."
Of course, Musk will have deal with the problem that many Martians born via synthetic wombs will inevitably be lured by the lush fleshpots of the mother planet into abandoning the rude rigors of colonial life to immigrate to Earth.
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Too bad Frank Herbert didn't live to see this.
My first thought was "IX" (pronounced "ick"?).
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Who will be the "owner" of womb authorized to abort the clumps of cells thein?
The state as embodied by Elon Musk or shareholders. Duh. Womb and womb products, copy right ownership right on down the line. It's not like those wombs on Mars wouldn't owe him/the company anything just by existing on his/their colony and consuming his/their supplies.
I don't understand all the hate or why libertarians would even have questions. It's just scientific speculation. It's not like we're advocating putting black people back into bondage or anything.
I would think that this would solve the abortion issue. Instead of getting an abortion you pass it on to an artificial womb. No doubt there are many people willing to finance it through birth since it seems plenty are willing to buy babies via backdoor channels. No doubt the state will make it far more expensive and exclusive than it should be.
Libertarian Sci-Fi writer Victor Koman foreseen this possibity in his book Solomon's Knife. I hope to read this sometime soon.
Of course, The Vatican and Protestant Anti-Abortionists wouldn't be satisfied with anything but what would keep human beings in perpetual misery in this life, followed by Eternal Hell in "the next life."
See sarc? This is what people talking about ideas looks like.
>"Billionaire crypto geeks say they want to replace human mothers with 'synthetic wombs.'"
And this is the kind of shit trolls and 50 centers respond with.
Not sure of they got it from the tabloids, taught the tabloids how to do it in the internet era, or maybe both are just feeding each other. One of those chicken/egg/artificial-egg conundrums I guess.
Will the synthetic wombs croon lullabies to the developing babies?
Ahem.. clumps of cells
No. Because it will be too complicated and expensive to ship Amazon Echo Dots to Mars, every birthing chamber will come equipped with an 8 ft. tall black obelisk that plays Also Sprach Zarathustra 24/7.
I'm okay with that.
Transhumanists are the dumbest people in the world.
"Women are held back by having children? Well we'll just grow them in artificial wombs so pregnancy won't be an inconvenience for them!"
Yea, because it's the birthing that requires time and effort. Nothing else...
Transhumanists are the dumbest people in the world.
This collection of transhumanists certainly are.
It is the only part of parenthood that is exclusively affecting the woman, so I see no problem.
There's the part where hormones and brain chemistry bonds the bearer to little human too.
Yhe attachment disorder effects might be - interesting.
Yea, because it's the birthing that requires time and effort. Nothing else...
"Oh, very well. Those children will also be raised by robots."
"Entirely self-sufficient and self-sustaining wombs, wombs that can even care for clumps of cells after completing they complete their magical journey, can't be viably shipped to another planet. To overcome this obstacle, we'll ship wombs and machinery that will need teams of people to look after them and their progeny and we'll make up the loss on volume." - Three... *three* technocratic experts.
As long as the population of Earth is above the scale of around 10K people this discussion is beyond retarded. If, in the next 100 yrs., the population of Earth plummets to 10K, fuck Mars.
I don't doubt Musk's business expertise and, as a libertarian, wouldn't assert that I could run a Mars colony better than he could but the general stupidity on display should be crushing to anyone who thinks he should be in charge.
What about artificial wombs implanted inside a human body? I bet a lot of Transladies would absolutely love that.
Sure. Between artificial embryos and organ transplanting and a CRISPR that could change, not just individual genes, but entire chromosomes, the whole Trqnsgender/TERF cat-fight could be ended forever and we could all sleep sound tonight.
Not artificial embryos, artificial wombs. Whoa! That's a whole other thread! 🙂
Kendall further explains, "Gestating foetuses in a protected and controlled environment could help prevent damage caused by radiation exposure, nutritional deficits or the impact of microgravity during pregnancy. This method of reproduction would also reduce the risks and burdens to female settlers and avoid losing members of the early settlement workforce to maternal morbidity and mortality."
OMFG! Standard human gestation period: 9 mos. Temporal distance to Mars? 9 mos. If you were going to ship a developing fetus to Mars, it would be virtually impossible to wrap it in anything more protective, more beneficial, and more productive than ~50 kg of human flesh.
I don't side with ENB at all but where the hell is she in this discussion? This should be an absolute outrage to her to have three men talking about how women would have to get pregnant immediately prior to departing or on the journey to Mars to be viable. The very line of thinking is insanely egomaniacal.
Oh, come on, they're not talking about sending occupied artificial wombs to Mars, or having the women who immigrate be pregnant when they leave. You've absurdly misunderstood the proposal! They're talking about,
1) Using them here to try to end the 'birth dearth',
and
2) Using them on Mars to compensate for the likely sex imbalance in immigrants.
Obviously it's a grossly incomplete solution, because availability of child rearing labor is actually a bigger limiting factor than pregnancy; You can do plenty of jobs while pregnant, it goes on in the background, but raising children IS a job.
But it's a piece of a solution. The rest is humanoid robots to relieve labor shortages, so that women have time to raise children. (Yes, women, let's not indulge in fantasies about men and women having interchangeable social roles.) Or more speculatively, humanoid robots with social intelligence, to actually raise the children.
Oh, come on, they're not talking about sending occupied artificial wombs to Mars, or having the women who immigrate be pregnant when they leave. You've absurdly misunderstood the proposal! They're talking about,
I admit Kendall may've misunderstood the proposal, but her description of 'radiation exposure... microgravity during pregnancy' (and my associated time table) pretty explicitly lays out 'pregnant on the journey'. The surface of Mars is not a microgravity environment and, presumably, any shelter built on Mars intended to house children from birth onward would be radiation shielded before the point of conception.
But it's a piece of a solution.
It's a piece of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist and has loads of other already viable solutions that already exist to head it off at the pass should it start to creep it's way into existence.
I'm beginning to see how Musk could effectively declare himself Retard King of Mars and get all his loyal retards to salute. The whole endeavor is looking more and more like it will turn out to be a really good "Don't fuck up. This is what happens when you do." lesson on the part of space and Mars to the second colonizers of Mars.
Of course, Musk will have deal with the problem that many Martians born via synthetic wombs will inevitably be lured by the lush fleshpots of the mother planet into abandoning the rude rigors of colonial life to immigrate to Earth.
You'd think a libertarian science reporter would've read 'The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress'. You'd think that, if they had, they wouldn't be so stupidly cavalier about people born on Mars whimsically emigrating to Earth. FFS, Edgar Rice Burroughs was smarter about this... in 1912!
FFS, Edgar Rice Burroughs was smarter about this... in 1912!
Imagine travelling back 110 yrs. in time and being less scientifically literate and more infantilely sexist than a 'strong man saves princesses' pulp sci-fi writer. Just. Wow.
I'm pretty sure Heinlein was wrong about the impossibility of returning to Earth after living on the moon for a long period. Though I don't imagine there would be a lto of opportunities for any early Mars colonists to hitch a ride back to Earth either.
I'm pretty sure Heinlein was wrong about the impossibility of returning to Earth after living on the moon for a long period.
First, he didn't say it was impossible. It took a period of recovery for a middle aged man, but was doable. For an elderly man, it was a one-way trip.
Second, he wasn't wrong about the specifics. There is centuries of data at 1G to support the rapid accumulation of multiple organs/systems in response to increased load and, conversely, decline of multiple organs/systems from lack of use and decades of data from anywhere between 38G and 0G. It's exceedingly clear the line goes down the closer you get to zero and your abilities stabilize and then rather literally ossify the longer you stay at whatever level. Whether there's a minimum or where it is debatable, but the idea that Martians or Loonies would come back to Earth and be fine is to assert that someone who hadn't exercised for whatever similar number of years would be fine just showing up at the Naval Special Warfare Prep School in Great Lakes. The longer they've gone without spending time wearing clothes at 1G, pushing pencils at 1G, sitting on chairs at 1G (or, potentially even stupider, wearing 2.6X mass clothes in 0.4G environment) the harder sitting at 1G will be on them and to assert that the issue won't progress between generations isn't even flat-eartherism dumb. Like pretending humans have always had overbites or worn left and right shoes.
Third, the overarching point was that "one does not simply immigrate from Mars". Setting aside all the physiological adaptation, for a long, long time, possibly even forever, there will be lopsided logistical imbalance between going too Mars and coming from Mars. The cumulative intrinsic barriers winnow the numbers. Really analogous to people transitioning genders. Lots of 'you do you' advocates, a good fraction of them with romantic notions one way or the other, another fraction of them willing to 'don the suit' and make their desires known. Fewer still who actually take the generally one-way journey. Proportionally plenty of them who discover the grass isn't greener on the other side and that the journey back is too difficult and hang themselves, proportionally fewer still who went and came back and the majority of them generally say "Don't fucking do it." loud and clear. Barring some catastrophe, there is never going to be a worrisome mass exodus from Mars.
Yeah, travel to Mars is likely to be difficult and with rare exceptions one way, for a very long time.
I've actually seen proposals that the early colonists be heavy on retirees, people who like the idea of doing something important with their lives for a few years before dying. Conveniently there are a lot of us old geezers who grew up during the Apollo program and are crazy about space exploration, and we're expendable.
Wasn’t this in an early Heinlein novel?
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
Kudos to Bailey for getting the "decanted" reference in there.
While the researchers' aim is a treatment for saving and bringing to term extremely premature
human fetusescLuMp oF cElls.Isn't this anti-woke or something? Does the New York Times know about this?
Mars needs women!
You want a real social issue to worry about on Mars? Assuming no unobtainium-powered perpetual artificial gravity devices, within a couple of generations at ~40% gravity, Martians will be phenomenally weaker and more brittle than their immigrant Terran colleagues. Even with unobtainium gravity suits, getting less direct sunlight for both power and nutrition and being contained in a largely stable, relatively sterile environment, the Martians will become immunologically weaker and less diverse. Potentially to the point that interbreeding becomes questionable. At which point, Terrans landing on Mars will be relative Morlocks to the Martian Eloi.
I know this is going to be a shocker, but there's nothing in direct sunlight that you can't replace, and likely safer, with UV lamps. And you can take care of the immunological issues by having a much more comprehensive program of vaccination, and perhaps deliberately exposing colonists to minor pathogens like the common cold.
The issue about the lower gravity negatively effecting health is real, but still somewhat speculative, we only have two data points right now: 1G is enough, and 0G isn't. We really don't know what the shape of the curve is like between those two.
In fact, a major complaint of mine is that we've never taken the trouble to put a partial gravity research station in orbit, so that we could settle this question. Talk of space colonization is pretty premature until we know for a fact how much gravity humans need for health, it dictates WHERE you colonize.
This is so much dumber than Musk and more evil than Fauci that it's got to be a troll, right?
I mean, either way, major kudos for skill in demonstrating how insidiously and dangerous (un)educated and (un)informed blind optimism is.
Insidiously evil that is.
Thanks for demonstrating Dunning-Kruger. I'm an engineer with a biology background, and a long interest in space.
"...these idlers had spent an entire afternoon discussing immigration. Some wanted to stop it entirely. Some wanted to tax it, high enough to finance government (when ninety-nine out of a hundred Loonies had had to be dragged to The Rock!); some wanted to make it selective by “ethnic ratios.” (Wondered how they would count me?) Some wanted to limit it to females until we were 50-50. That had produced a Scandinavian shout: “Ja, cobber! Tell ’em send us hoors! Tousands and tousands of hoors! I marry ’em, I betcha!” Was most sensible remark all afternoon."
On the plus side, less time in labor means more time for important things like making sandwiches, learning how to make sandwiches more efficiently, and learning how to make better sandwiches.
Wow this is really good news, artificial womb, that will solve many people's reproductive problems, like transplanting pig hearts, will solve human mortality problems, prolong life, good life, wear a stylish replica watches
Of course, Musk will have deal with the problem that many Martians born via synthetic wombs will inevitably be lured by the lush fleshpots of the mother planet into abandoning the rude rigors of colonial life to immigrate to Earth.
Not bloody likely. Mars has about 1/3 earth's gravity. It's highly unlikely anyone growing up in that environment would be able to survive earth normal gravity. If you were born on Mars, you're staying there.
Good thing the atmosphere is Carbon Dioxide so there couldn't be any Witch-Burning on Mars.
I completely did not understand the hysteria around his comments.
It is as if nobody in the media (or on Twitter) has ever heard of a futurist. Back in the 70s and 80s there were magazines and TV shows dedicated to the topic. All kinds of weird speculative crap was on the table.
As long as he isnt using guns and government to force us into a dystopian matrix future, I really dont get the hate. It seems kinda silly to be worrying about artificial wombs... it isnt like that is on the table any time soon.
I'm, not convinced that humans have a space-faring future ahead of them. But if we do then there will be things like this and other crazy sci-fi stuff coming with it. I see nothing wrong with thinking about how it might work.
guns and government to force
You do realize that this is just a metaphor, right? That it's still just as much wrong or askance of libertarian principles if he knowingly programs your EV to slam you into a wall or refuse to start if you won't get vaccinated. If he were to accept 10,000 contracts to work on Mars, send everyone up there, and then cut off supply lines, even exceedingly libertarian individuals would rather rightly be calling it a grotesque human rights violation.
The real hate is the general presumptiveness and the either abject blindness or relative immoral callousness with which they fail to address their non-specific spitball issues. It reads like something that's 100% self-unaware, between a half-cockamamie scheme and a half-dangerous plot to win back partial custody of their kids by cutting their estranged wife's brake lines and getting them put into DCFS. It would maybe be funny if it were Jason Sudeikis, Jason Bateman, and Charlie Day playing characters but, it's actual captains of industry who are actually (re)sculpting industry and society in their image currently.
Today, some of those that have trouble gestating, can hire a surrogate. A synthetic womb is just a natural extension of that, probably safer for all involved compared to renting a womb in India.
Given credibility to a 27 year old, male, on the spectrum, single, childless individual on the subject of the impact of motherhood on women's earnings is not a wise idea. While Buterin's point has some merit, an artificial womb would only give back a few months to a mother, as most women continue to work until the last few months of pregnancy, and, generally recovery from pregnancy takes about 6 weeks. Many working women will take 3 months off after birth because most day cares will not take babies under 3 months of age. Most of the time taken off after pregnancy has more to do with early child care and bonding, rather than pregnancy recovery. Buterin simply is ignorant of these realities.
Then there is the point of Buterin's 20 year chart. Unless we have artificial moms/nannies/self driving soccer vans, there is little chance of an artificial womb will significantly reduce the economic equity situation for mothers.
There are merits to artificial wombs, in that it could be helpful for people who currently must rely on surrogacy, and it may provide an option for women who have physical issues preventing safe pregnancy, but the bottleneck on procreation is always early childhood care, not pregnancy.
We have a planet that is (to my mind) 10x overpopulated, with trends indicating that the number will finally peak and *start* to drop late in this century, and he's trying to figure out how to make more people??????
The Earth could comfortably support a much larger human population, as long as we take some care to not destroy the environment.
The nearby cosmic neighborhood seems completely uninhabited and ready for colonization. We're going to need a lot more people to do that.
I just think people should decide for themselves how they will reproduce and then we'll deal with the consequences. If the population grows more, I'm sure we'll be OK. The planet could support a lot more people. And if population peaks and declines it will make some things difficult for a while, but there are also advantages to a less crowded planet with less land and resources intensively used by humans.
Again, Reason and other people keep insisting that Elon Musk is a libertarian but these sorts of stories and revealed preferences keep coming out that demonstrate that while he can quote line and verse of TMAHM or Atlas Shrugged or whatever, he really doesn't believe he shouldn't be in charge or that the people aren't just his consumers.
From a libertarian perspective, it's an evil, grotesque discussion about how they would craft a future society to their own whims. Not in any sort of "If faced with a set of constraints, how do we solve the problem?" problem-solving or brain-storming speculation but in a purely creative, picking up the brush and spattering "I've somehow fucked up the gender balance in *MY* Mars colony. How can I fuck it up worse while convincing everyone and myself I'm making it better?" on the canvas.
Analogously, 10 yrs. and a million Teslas back you might've been able to say "Oh, he's just trying to launch and EV company." but, at this point, it's pretty clear that he's trying to replace the myriad of ecosystems that exist between multiple car manufacturers, dealerships, local garages, local service stations, local auto parts stores, etc. with the one Tesla ecosystem. Even if he himself doesn't realize it people around him almost certainly do and he's, wittingly or not, going along with it.
He's certainly not the only one, but it certainly unifies his 'EVs are going to save the planet from AGW' ethos, his business practices, of which he is a pioneer, and generally refutes his libertarian bona fides.
Again, it would be one thing if Elon were Neal Stephenson writing speculative Sci-Fi. But Elon and many others equate him to Ford or Rockefeller.