The Government Doesn't Need New Powers To Fight 'Domestic Terror'
We've already seen how this can abuse Americans' civil liberties with little increase in public safety.

Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), chair of the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, told ABC's George Stephanopoulos last week that his committee may recommend new domestic intelligence powers. He provided no details, and Stephanopoulos didn't press for any, but recent history shows the combined dangers and uselessness of that approach.
None of the post-9/11 surveillance measures enacted by Congress, including the sweeping USA PATRIOT Act, have ever been demonstrated through a rigorous, independent review to have stopped a single attack on the United States over the last 20 years. There is no reason to believe that still more spying authority for the FBI or the Department of Homeland Security would make a rerun of the Capitol riot less likely.
Indeed, Thompson told Stephanopoulos that "it was the worst-kept secret in America that people were coming to Washington" to protest the election outcome. Because so many of the rioters filmed their deeds and posted them to social media, the real challenge for the FBI has been going through masses of video to conclusively identify the perpetrators. Arresting, charging, and getting plea bargains has been the easy part, as the Justice Department's website shows.
Moreover, the FBI already has unbelievably sweeping authority to surveil individual Americans or domestic groups without ever having to go before a judge to get a warrant.
Under an investigative category known as an assessment, FBI agents can search commercial and government databases (including databases containing classified information), run confidential informants, and conduct physical surveillance, all without a court order.
Last year, via a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, the Cato Institute discovered that the FBI had used this mechanism to open an investigation on Concerned Women for America in the absence of any kind of criminal predicate. (The group's stated purpose is to "protect and promote Biblical values and Constitutional principles through prayer, education, and advocacy.") To the best of my knowledge, no one at the FBI has been investigated, much less disciplined or fired, for targeting the group.
And even in regular FBI investigations, the Bureau's organizational mindset and investigation categorization process can slant an inquiry to label it as something it clearly is not, potentially compromising or chilling the constitutional rights of innocent Americans. Another recent Cato FOIA request highlights the problem.
First, some background. In the years immediately after the invasion of Iraq, political passions in the United States were, like now, running high. The FBI, which has a long history of infiltrating and otherwise surveilling anti-war groups, continued the practice in the War on Terror era. One product of that surveillance was a July 2005 FBI field office on events whose case title included the acronym "AOT-DT"—an abbreviation for "Act of Terrorism-Domestic Terrorism."
The document, obtained by Cato via FOIA, described a "honk for peace" event sponsored by the Student Peace Action Network (SPAN) and Campus Green at North Carolina State University in Raleigh, North Carolina, followed by an evening for the "exchange of ideas through music, conversation, and speakers." After that event and separate from it, a small group of anarchists committed acts of vandalism in Raleigh against a Bank of America ATM and a North Carolina GOP headquarters.
As the FBI report subsequently noted, several participants were charged with felony riot offenses. But there's a world of difference between hammering an ATM and using a truck bomb to destroy a federal building in Oklahoma City or using airlines as flying bombs in New York. The fact that the FBI classified this anti-war event as an "act of terrorism" investigation speaks to a mindset problem.
Vandalism is not acceptable, but conflating it with maiming or killing people for political purposes—the generally accepted definition of terrorism today—is reckless. Unfortunately, future search of FBI databases involving the words "domestic terrorism" and "North Carolina" will bring up hits for SPAN and Campus Green, even though neither group engaged in, much less officially endorsed, any act of political violence.
Such episodes underscore the dangers in the powers the FBI already possesses. To give law enforcement agencies still more ill-conceived and sweeping domestic surveillance powers can only make those dangers worse.
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"the real challenge for the FBI has been going through masses of video to conclusively identify the perpetrators. Arresting, charging, and getting plea bargains has been the easy part, as the Justice Department's website shows."
Well, not *everyone*, just the people they didn't assign to work there. Also no, you don't get you review the tapes yourself!
Also no, you don't get you review the tapes yourself!
The most just and fair type of justice is the type with no public oversight.
Just and fair?
They were aiming for efficient.
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Does anyone really trust the FBI anymore? Or the DOJ? Or the NSA? Or the CIA? They have all become thoroughly corrupt. They act in underhanded ways in contravention of the law for petty and small men.
We are well past reform. They need to be ripped apart, root and branch.
Fire every government SES, gut the fop 5 levels or so of every federal department, and start over.
"Does anyone really trust the FBI anymore?"
Did anyone ever really trust the FBI? Should they have?
Go research what the FBI got up to under J. Edgar Hoover.
I suppose doing nothing and just letting our government be overrun by fascists is an option after all.
Sinema and Manchin won't let the fascists win!
I suppose doing nothing and just letting our government be overrun by fascists is an option after all.
Of course it is, that happened a little over a year ago and we're still alive somehow.
The fascists are the ones creating a domestic terrorism unit dumbass.
Look out! There's a fascist under your bed!
And don't forget to check the closet and the drain in the bathtub!
No, the fascist isn't hiding under his bed, it's hiding in his mirror.
They can just use emergency covid powers.
Well, not if they're OSHA I guess.
"Vandalism is not acceptable, but conflating it with maiming or killing people for political purposes—the generally accepted definition of terrorism today—is reckless."
So by definition, the only terrorist act on Jan 6 was the murder of Ashli Babbitt?
If she made it through that window alove the world would have exploded.
I didn't like this movie the first time around, I doubt I'll like the remake.
They don't want to investigate ALL "domestic terrorism", but just those that disagree with the government directing all aspects of their lives and those that spread "misinformation" on social media or want to have a say-so in their child's education. I don't know why people would be upset with such investigations. I mean, you DO want to be safe from misinformation don't you?
The definition of "domestic terrorism" will be fluid in Merriman-Webster for the foreseeable future. MAGA hat bearers will be included before the end of the Biden admin.
You're a little behind the times, Bob.
An elaborate operation to label MAGA people as "domestic terrorists" was launched, by the government, before Zhou Bai-dung was inaugurated...about fourteen days before, to be exact.
I was led to believe 20 years ago if we don't leave the terrorists alone we'll just breed more and more terrorists.
The Government is not fighting domestic terrorists, the Democrats/Biden Administration are encouraging left wing terrorism for political gain. The new powers are to fight the phantom terrorist, i.e. patriots that love the Nation and Constitution. You know, those terrorist parents that want their children to get a good education, not political indoctrination. Freedom and liberty are at stake here, yet Reason refuses to see that.
Get real Reason.