In 2022, Pay Attention to Right-Wing Authoritarianism
For decades, libertarians have focused on illiberalism coming from the political left. But authoritarianism has taken root among many conservatives across the world.

At the eve of a new year, it's traditional to make a resolution or two. I have no such list for myself or others, but I do have a wish. For 2022 and beyond, I wish that all of us who still cherish liberal values will band together to oppose the worrisome rise of authoritarianism around the world.
For decades, those inclined toward free markets have focused on authoritarianism coming from the political left. We have spared no energy denouncing and opposing it. We've rightfully been concerned about the push to centralize more power in the hands of federal governments and to increase the scope and size of all government. We have warned that these policies, pursued consistently, pave what the great F.A. Hayek called "the road to serfdom."
This fight should continue. However, it's time to be equally harsh toward those on the right who want to use state power to control individuals' choices and destroy those with whom they disagree. In America, this illiberalism was visible in many of the policies pushed by former President Donald Trump, including industrial policies riddled with favoritism and hostility to foreign workers and immigrants. It peaked during the last months of his presidency with claims of stolen elections and other conspiracy theories.
Sadly, this right-wing illiberalism has continued with Trump allies pressuring election officials to reverse the result of the 2020 election, and it's found plenty of advocates in Congress. With some exceptions, the Republican Party has turned away from free-market ideas and embraced what can best be described as central planning: more government handouts, a continued affection for crony privileges—including protective tariffs—bestowed on its favorite industries, and a newfound opposition to free speech and enthusiasm for hyperactive antitrust campaigns against industries it doesn't like.
Illiberalism has also taken root among many conservative intellectuals. While there have always been different strains of thinking among neoconservatives, populists, and other thought leaders on the right, these groups increasingly define themselves by their opposition to the left while endorsing policies that are just as terrible.
Certain thinkers would even like to see the government impose a kind of religious order. As Kevin Vallier explained at The UnPopulist Substack, a few have begun embracing the doctrine of "Catholic integralism," which includes ideas that "all political and legal authority comes from God" and that the Church can "call on the state to help advance its mission by directing the state to impose civil punishments for violating church law, such as punishing heretics, among other things."
While this development is alarming on its own, it carries an additional danger. As Shikha Dalmia and Arthur Melzer argued, if the right uses the illiberalism of the left to justify its own—as happened in post-World War I Weimar Germany—America would risk falling into authoritarianism.
Unfortunately, the rise of right-wing authoritarianism isn't unique to America. It's taking root in many countries, including Sweden, Hungary, France, and India.
Sweden's Democrats—a nativist, right-wing party—had so many racists and xenophobes within its ranks that even it had to implement a zero-tolerance policy against such rhetoric. Yet, the country has still turned against immigrants, who are blamed for problems caused by its progressive welfare state.
In Hungary, President Viktor Orban has implemented massively generous welfare payments—like a $35,000 child tax credit for parents with over three children—but also made his ultimate mission to crack down viciously against any left-wing opposition. This has made him a role model for some American ideologues.
In my native France, rising star and presidential candidate Eric Zemmour has been open about his desire to return to a time when the country was run exclusively by and for French folks and immigrants who truly embraced French culture—preferably Christian—and gave their children names such as Jacques, Pierre, and Marie.
So, as I wish you a happy New Year, I also ask you to join me in opposing illiberalism in all its forms. It means opposing the draconian regulation and unsustainable government welfare advanced by the left. It also means opposing rising right-wing illiberalism that is hostile to LGBTQ and immigrant cultures, itches to ban books, and generally wants to use government power to achieve its cramped vision of an American society.
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Really the progressives are pushing socialism, Marxism, forced medical experimentation, different pricecutions based on political views, and the Republicans are who we have to watch out for?
Soros might as well have written that crap article.
Cite that he didn’t?
Oh get over yourself with that cite shit. We know he doesn't write these articles.
He has people to do that for him.
Charles Koch as taken a shine to Soros. Reason magazine is Koch's propaganda organ.
https://www.worldtribune.com/koch-empire-spurns-trumps-gop-hooks-up-with-soros-cultural-marxism/
Sample:
From a Sept. 29 Associated Press article:
Leaders in the network built by the billionaire Koch family say they oppose government bans over teaching about race and history in schools [i.e., Critical Race Theory]. While they note they don’t agree with the ideas at the center of the fight, they argue the government bans, now enacted in 11 states, stifle debate essential to democracy.
“Using government to ban ideas, even those we disagree with, is also counter to core American principles — the principles that help drive social progress,” said Evan Feinberg, executive director of the Koch-affiliated Stand Together Foundation.
It is impossible to take this quote as offered. Surely Feinberg must understand the extremely basic logic involved in differentiating the free exchange of ideas and what is happening in our nation’s public schools today. The Stand Together Foundation is intentionally confusing forced government indoctrination of captive audiences of children with “free speech” as the Koch empire continues to pivot away from the conservative brand that is no longer useful to them in the post-Trump era.
The effortless shift from “conservative values” to defending Critical Race Theory has been years in the making, driven by the decline of the GOP establishment in 2016.
I eagerly await OBL's most informed, prescient, and intelligent take.
Or you could just listen to a random homeless person.
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Too old for sarc.
Reason, defending mandatory racist indoctrination of children in government schools.
What a toilet Reason has become.
The author of this little rant should apply for a job at MSNBC now that race baiting Joy Reid is soon to be joining the ranks of the unemployed.
CNN may be another. Might boost their viewers to maybe 900K.
The left has literally all institutional power, but this fascist bitch wants to help them cement their totalitarian power.
It's time to mostly peacefully protest the hell out of people like this wherever you can find them.
this fascist bitch
Crude, but perfectly accurate. Fascist in the literal sense of the word.
In a world where people are:
- refused loans for holding bog-standard political views at the behest of a political party
- scientists are deplatformed for non-controversial stands on virology
- losing their Visa, Paypal, GoFundMe and Patreon accounts for criticizing the Democrats
- locked up in prison for months without charges or lawyers for protesting the Democrats
- FBI are sicced on parents protesting social engineering and rape
- troops occupy the Capitol based on an obvious lie
- a president is deplatformed for saying the same shit Democrats did on a daily basis for four years
- the media pulls propaganda stunts against ordinary citizens for the Democrats that would make Pravda blush
Dr Rugy's worried about the working class who are protesting it.
This is like watching a woman being raped and declaring that her kids cowering in corner are the real threat, because they might want revenge when they grow up.
*checks list*
Of the top of my head, Reason only covered two of those topics, so it could explain the confusion.
Lying bitch!
To grab just ONE of these at random...
"- a president is deplatformed for saying the same shit Democrats did on a daily basis for four years"
Please name me ONE lousy humanoid alive on the planet today, with access to an internet connection, or who is allowed to talk to random bums at the bar or under the bridge, who can NOT access ALL of the lies of Der TrumpfenFuhrer that they can stand? Just ONE? Can you name ONE?
(Even in prison, ONLY those in prolonged solitary confinement can listen to stupid Trumptatorshit lies as much as they can stand.)
Oooops... ONLY those in prolonged solitary confinement can ***NOT*** listen to ...
(Unless they are "enabled" to listen to voices and vices in their heads, which seems common around here!)
Yawn…
It is a mystery to this pro-Moose protagonist which banned and duct-taped nationalsocialist hate raider the Plucky Squirrell is fencing with. Badenov that Pottsylvania finances so many Ceausescus and Nixonistas here, so for the sake of brevity let us hope Fearless Leader gets his in (don't miss it) our next episode "Why of Vichy" or "Hoist by His Own Petain"
Hokey Smoke, Hank! I didn't know you were a fan of Moose & Squirrel too!
There are lots of other Jay Ward characters here too, such as Tennessee Tuxedo's jokester friend Chumby, numerous Commander McBraggs who, with a cannon in hand, can whip any man, a Tony Savoir Faire who is everywhere practicing his redistributionist ways, Mr. Peabody and His Boy Sherman (which could be several members,) and the occasional Mr. Whoopie who teaches something new.
Me, I'm just old Shoeshine who occasionally takes on Simon Bar Sinisters when the opportunity arises.
"It's not censorship because you can still evade it if you try real hard"
This was literally the argument of Tankies in 1968. Does anyone have a doubt about Sqrlsy's antipathy to libertarianism anymore?
Notice he also didn't say anything about Democratic Party political operatives pressuring companies to deny financial services to opponents.
In both instances they are raping the First Amendment dry, but he's pretending "government almighty" isn't involved.
"It isn't dictatorshit if the sub-smegmonic interdimensional space alien benthic nematodes are giving the orders, instead of an "R"-party 1-party HUMANOID-type dictatorshit."
When I parse this stance of yours fully, MarxistMammaryBahnFuhrer the Chthonic Cunt, Twat of Twits, I ***MIGHT*** actually end up agreeing with You, Dear Queen of Internet Cesspools!
(Please allow me some time to study up on Your Latest Stuff & Stuff, & Stuffy Stuff).
Upon due consideration, I find Your Whining and Crying about having to make the SLIGHTEST efforts to access Der TrumpfenFuhrer's latest brain farts to be sorely lacking... When compared to PROPERTY RIGHTS of those who OWN web sites!!! If You (Dear Queen of Internet Cesspools) want to tell FacePoooo what to do and NOT do, then... BUY UP 51% of FacePoooo's stock! Till then... QUIT yer unseemly endless bitching!!!
Lusts-after-your-web-sites Marxist “Christian Theological Expert” MammaryBahnFuhrer thinks that one of the Ten Commandments read as follows:
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. Unless thy neighbor art a corporatist in Thine Righteous Eyes, in which case, Thou shalt steal ALL of their stuff & shit, howsoever Thy Power-Hungry Right-Wing Wrong-Nut Marxist Heart may desire.
No coherent counter argument. Just shitposting spazzouts. What else should I have expected.
Lusts-after-your-web-sites Marxist “Christian Theological Expert” MammaryBahnFuhrer dismisses any and ALL thoughts that challenge the Supreme Uber-Beingness of the Intergalactic Master of Space, Time, and Dimension, which is (surprise!) AKA Lusts-after-your-web-sites Marxist “Christian Theological Expert” MammaryBahnFuhrer. All such subversive thoughts are summarily dismissed as "shitposting spazzouts"!
I am BEYOND being SHOCKED by this news!!!
Did someone say something?
"the real threat"
This is the phrase used by the Establishment antiwhites to make clear that it is *always* working class Whites who they view as the true threat.
And they're probably correct in that. It's working class Whites who are "the real threat" to their totalitarian regimes.
January 6th. What don't you get?
I get it that Trumpanzees went apeshit for an insurrection. What I do NOT get is, when did HillaryPanzees EVER do this?
Really the progressives are pushing socialism, Marxism, forced medical experimentation, different pricecutions based on political views, and the Republicans are who we have to watch out for?
Of course, they're promoting right-wing authoritarianism.
What IS 'right-wing authoritarianism', you say?
Well, it's when those deplorables try to pass laws that don't allow leftism to be imposed on everyone.
Damned authoritarians.
I used to be a daily reason reader. Now I show up about once a month to see what type of garbage they are spouting. Keep your enemies close and all that. They appear to be getting their funding from the southern poverty law center now. I suspect they are getting a lot of money from big Pharma as well. It would've been hard to imagine just a couple of years ago that there would not be a single person on the entire staff of a libertarian magazine that was skeptical of the vaccine.
I come by every couple of months to watch Reason swirl the drain.
Shows how far the Marxist rot has spread, that they have bothered to converge Reason.
Sad. Maybe there are a few bowling leagues they haven't gotten to yet.
Who would've thought a few years ago that the great "Marxist" threat would be... private companies profiting off of vaccines during a global pandemic.
Probably, by now you don't even know why I think that sounds obviously loopy.
I think those of you deep in this echo chamber have a lot of trouble hearing what you actually sound like.
You think the natural state of a magazine called "reason" would be embrace of viral anti-vaccine fear mongering?
I remember hearing from rightists last decade that anti-vaccine hysteria was supposedly the example that proved that rightists were no more anti-science or anti-reason than hippie liberals who were afraid of Western medicine. That didn't age too well.
Joe Rogan does a much better job.
11 million viewers can't be all wrong.
"Sadly, this right-wing illiberalism has continued with Trump allies pressuring election officials to reverse the result of the 2020 election"
Reason now shills for rigged elections, and condemns those who want an open and honest count of votes as "illiberal" and "authoritarian".
They're really just vermin these days.
Per norm it comes down to truth, not ideology. I think you are well aware "forced medical experimentation" is fear-mongering, and also know how the factual discussions around vaccines play out on the rare occasions when conspiracy and anti-vax partisans are willing to discuss/debate facts in depth.
That entire headline is a lie. God, you people are horrible.
Looks like those Soros checks are starting to pay dividends.
Second article today starring Orban. Orange man Bad included but forgot to add Tan man bad from Florida.
127 post-election anti-Trump articles in four months helped Sullum pay off his mortgage.
Resume builders for his application for some of that institutional wealth that the Lincoln Project promises.
They also offer benefits..
"127 post-election anti-Trump articles in four months helped Sullum pay off his mortgage"
Because there's no money to be made on rightist grievance signaling, MAGA rallying, conspiracy theories and general rage and fear-generating content. Just no market for it, unfortunately. That's why you can't find that kind of content anywhere.
Oh btw, just on the subject, there's a pretty affordable family-friendly boardgame version of MAGA conspiracy theories available here via Navarro now. Sounds like maybe only $49.95, pretty priceless for a full education in social science. Check it out!
https://electionfun.com/efn.html
Soros spends billions to fight authoritarian statism/fascism.
Open Society is the exact opposite of fascism.
Too bad conservatives lost their fucking minds when Soros was fighting the fascist Bushpigs 2000-2008. He pretty much stayed out of politics until the War-mongering spying fascists took over the GOP.
Go ahead and defend the nazi collaborator, you fuckin freak.
Yeah, a 14 year old Jew hiding from the Nazis is a "collaborator".
You're a stupid cunt
He has said himself that helping the Nazis was the happiest time of his life. Ayn Rand couldn’t invent a villain like that.
He was literally in the hitler youth
Pluggo ignores that and focuses on the 14 year old boy part.
I guess he’s never heard of child soldiers. (I hope that doesn’t turn him on)
He would gladly lead a child navy. As the rear admiral.
He’d never leave his buddies behind.
He would dishonorably discharge his seamen.
You win.
You can never out chumby the chumby
so refreshingly unbound by the tedious constraints of truth and decency.
I wonder as a patriotic German citizen how you would have responded to the rumor mongering and conspiracy theories about the Jews at the time? I'm sure your response would have been diametrically opposed to the other nationalistic conservatives of the time, and to how you respond to false political rumors today. You would have demanded fact checks no doubt, back then.
Soros likely means well, but he is an idiot if he thinks that pushing soft on crime DAs will help the country deal with its crime wave. The ideals of Open Society are fine, but the means of implementing them are fascistic. These people deny reality until it comes and bites them in the ass.
he believes in bought and paid for government. It isnt just buying DAS but also staffing government offices with "free" workers as long as rheybdi as he asks.
Soros is a literal fascist.
Soros doesn't mean well at all. He's an ideological fanatic with a god complex, and is directly responsible for all the urban chaos of the last year with his funding of woke DAs, not to mention his currency manipulations.
The only thing he and his kin deserve is a soft-nosed bullet to the back of the head.
Lol. Love when you lose your facade a d come put as an open leftist. OSF is not anti fascist, it is just your preferred fascism dumbass.
Open Society is the exact opposite of fascism.
According to you fucktards the "exact opposite of fascism" is communism.
So you're saying that Soros is opposing authoritarian statism/fascism by supporting totalitarian authoritarian statism/communism?
May you face prosecution by a Soros installed prosecutor.
Soros buys prosecutors and District attorneys who release dangerous criminals back onto the streets.
Chesa Boudin, Kim Foxx, and the latest in the Big rotten Apple.
This is Soros' doing.
So thank George Soros when one of those fine upstanding valedictorians break in your door and do to you what they did to Jacqueline Avant.
LOL. NO ONE is more authoritarian, more of a threat to liberty, than the American Left right now. Nuke 'em from space, it's the only way to be sure.
Yes
Hitler was less authoritarian than Stalin
We probably should have ignored Hitler based upon your logic
Does hitler exist “right now” idiot?
Literal Hitler was ousted in the most honest, fair and legitimate election in world history in 2020 ushering in the glorious new libertarian world we now enjoy under our benevolent leader Joe Biden.
An amazing, globally unprecedented 20% increase in the number of voters, just for Joe. Never before has such an huge increase occurred in the history of Western democracy.
But don't you dare question it or you're a conspiracy theorist and iNsurrEctioniST.
"Totalitarianism now is ok, because hitler."
Eat a bullet.
"It also means opposing rising right-wing illiberalism that is hostile to LGBTQ and immigrant cultures, itches to ban books, and generally wants to use government power to achieve its cramped vision of an American society."
Notice the wording, here? "Hostile to." In what way, SPECIFICALLY? Are they denying them civil liberties through legislation or . . . what?
"Itches to ban." You can have an itch. That doesn't mean you can scratch it.
"Want to achieve a cramped vision of American society." Seriously? How much MORE cramped can you get than the constantly patrolled minefield of woke culture established by the American left?
Stop conflating dislike and disagreement with civil liberties infringements. It's not illegal to dislike someone or disagree with their lifestyle/values. You just can't codify your attitudes into legislative action. I don't know a single conservative who wants to. But every single democrat I know has a LONG list of, "We need to make it a crime to . . ."
“Itches to ban books” Who the hell is doing that in the modern era
other than the left? Jump off a bridge.
Not putting child porn books in middle school libraries is book burning. Yes, this book exists and won literary awards. Literally a picture of a boy blowing a dude.
Having publishers stop publishing conservative books is private company.
That is the authoritarianism apparent. People can still buy the book, it just doest belong in public school libraries.
Book-Burning Party: Asterix Purged for ‘Sexual Savagery’
"Canadian schools burned 5,000 children's books in a ‘purifying’ ceremony against racism
Holy fuck. I loved those books as a kid, and have the collection in one of the bookshelves. Never got around to reading them, but now they're next on the list.
Useless fact; Gerard dePardieu played Obelix in a movie
As if Europeans should be allowed their own culture.
Is the sarc tag necessary?
They burned Tintin books, too. Savages.
Apparently they burned Tintin in America
https://thecanadian.news/2021/09/09/5000-childrens-books-and-comics-of-asterix-or-tintin-burned-in-canada-for-offending-indigenous-people/
It had evil oil companies driving Indians off their land with support from the army.
I also remember the English edition had some bad guys lynch "three people," and in the French edition it was "trois negres."
Not a masterwork, but it wasn't The Shooting Star or anything.
https://tintin.fandom.com/wiki/The_Shooting_Star#Publication_history
Six Dr. Seuss books will no longer be published due to “racist” imagery
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/book-burning-and-the-left/
Twitter has memory-holed the current lawful President's historicaL existence on their platform, along with most all of his most motivated supporters.
But it's Right Wing censorship we have to worry about.
How dare those Swedes not want their country destroyed!
And I guess fraudulent elections are the new libertarianism.
How shameful that a French candidate would want to defend France. Although, to be fair it would make for quite a change !
Reason mostly ignored the progressive authoritarianism of 2021 with many of the editors having supported the hear pf such activities in the 2020 election. So ignore what has just happened and is happening for what might happen. Beautiful.
Seriously.... What alternate reality did this VdR come from? She was a consistent defender of the left throughout the last half decade ... Where in the world was this battle against left wing authoritarianism, and in what possible way does she think she was part of it.?
By my reconning Reason can count Soave and 2 guest authors as "battling left wing authoritarianism". Everyone else has been either a cheerleader or an apologist.
Her and Nick wrote some damn good articles back during Obama about the idiotic spending and economic policies of his administration.
"Bad economic policies" does not count as battling authoritarianism.
Reason told me that the violent hecklers veto directed at Milo was no big deal.
They told me that Ben Shapiro being shut down was not really a slippery slope... Even though they shouldn't do that.
They told me that the people claiming they were being shadow banned were right wing kooks.
They worried about the overreach and conspiratorial thinking of Republicans who complained about being targeted by the IRS.
They told me it was no worry at all when Operation Choke Point morphed into a private left-wing kudgel to block
Matt Welch practically had a fit as he told me that Trump was a loon for suggesting that his phones at trump tower were tapped.
Nobody seemed the slightest bit worried when the New York Times published an article shortly after the inauguration of Trump that featured "high ranking white house officials" bragging that they had distributed classified information around the government to be leaked after the inauguration in order to justify an independent counsel and impeachment. (To be clear, this was a direct act of sedition)
They still don't seem too concerned that anyone of the right is being banned from social media. I do recall quite a number of think prices lamenting the "intellectual silos" we live in.... But I suppose if you lock one group out of the public square, the silo problem isn't so important any more.
No, reason has not even been tepid on "left wing authoritarianism". That is a joke. Remember, you are living in a time where the president of the united states personally oversaw framing a cabinet official for a crime he did not commit... And not only is he not facing charges, he is completely protected. Even Reason has not dared say a single negative word about using the FBI to frame a white house official for a crime.
I get that we libertarians tend to be both contrarian and pedantic... But they have been no better on issues of liberty on the left than any generic center left periodical.
They have been exceptionally weak on original reporting since Balko left. And since Trump showed up they have been DNC apologists with the exception of Soave, Lenore and Nancy Rommelman. And two of those are guest authors.
When the far left Glenn Greenwald is more reliably libertarian than anyone on Reason's staff, we have a problem. And he is.. And it is not even a little bit close. (I don't count the Jacket because he is too tired of the bullshit to fight any more)
You know, when you lay it all out like that, it looks even worse than it felt going through the last 5-6 years.
And fuck is that depressing.
Nice summation Cyto.
Nick went to bat for globalists of all parties, including socialists and Jacobins.
@nickgillespie:
In the 21st century, libertarians are going to have make common cause with the globalists of all parties, with the people whose core value is the right of individuals to move freely around the planet.
...
Watching The Brink made me think that for all the other differences Reason has with the socialist magazine Jacobin, it may matter far more that we share a belief in open borders.
https://reason.com/2019/04/12/steve-bannons-economic-nationalism-is-th/
"Yay Postmodernists!"
https://twitter.com/nickgillespie/status/1120362508446064645 …
Nick: I was on @LionsofLiberty podcast w @MarcDClair, talking about why libertarians should embrace postmodernism, my early days as a cub reporter, and more. Take a listen.
And never forget Nick's Greatest Hit, when Nick went full “No True Communist”!
“Totalitarians professing communism killed millions of people, but this analogy is flawed. Hitler was the leader of Nazism, Stalin the leader of…Stalinism, not communism.”
https://twitter.com/nickgillespie/status/1021180699380920320
“Crack down viciously on any left wing opposition “
Have they been imprisoned for up to eleven months without being charged?
How do you say “shithead” in French?
Merde de Rugy.
Perfect!
Lol.
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!
Sigh.
If you can't recognize threats to individual liberty for what they are, without first running it through your left/right, convervative/liberal, Democrat/Republican filter, then you weren't a libertarian to begin with.
Fuck off, slaver.
Speaking of slavers who need to fuck off:
Putin: Insulting Prophet Mohammed Is Not Freedom of Expression
https://www.trtworld.com/asia/putin-insulting-prophet-muhammad-is-not-freedom-of-expression-52961?s=09
Evidently, Putin thinks religious freedom means freedom from offense and insult. A special Siberian Snowflake.
This was meant to be a parody article, right? I mean, c'mon, it ain't the right controlling the show right now.
This is like telling me I should be worried about a little road rash on my arm when my leg has been severed off.
In what way has your leg “been severed off”?
Oh I get it, you’re autistic.
Somehow, Dee’s gotten dumber.
He’s more of a quantum of dumb.
Deevolution.
Are we not men?
We are.
Leftists aren't.
"In what way has your leg “been severed off”?"
Mike Laursen, ferocious Sealion.
Sealion.
Stop using this term.
It was coined by leftists to demonize anyone who persists in rational debate and by so doing highlights their inability to do so and the lack of strength in any of their arguments.
It is akin to others, such as 'godwinning' and 'whataboutism'.
It's sole purpose is to make an opponent appear wrong when they are right.
Sealioning is a shitty harrassment technique and it really doesn't matter who coined it.
People engaged in honest debate aren't busy asking for cites on basic information, information easily found elsewhere, and unrelated or tangential points like Mike does.
So no, I'm not going to stop calling him out on it.
A society is not free if they can not chose their own leaders. That is what the Rs are currently out for, to destroy the concept of meaningful elections in this country. That is the true threat to this country.
‘Slow-motion insurrection’: How GOP seizes election power
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-united-states-elections-electoral-college-election-2020-809215812f4bc6e5907573ba98247c0c
Versus a quick insurrection? Like the coup your paymasters pulled in Nov 2020?
You mean a clean election?
You’d make Stalin proud.
It's gone 'round the bend with its moral panic bs lately. Fully irrational. Gone are the quaint lies about it standing outside because nobody was wearing a mask, and everybody got covid.
You mean a clean election?
If there are leftists involved in the process it can never be clean.
Sounds like you've got that brain permanently locked on ingroup/outgroup mode. That's a virtual lockout of even the possibility of rational reasoning – congratulations!
Good job MollyGodiva!
Also this:
https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
Trump's Big Lie and Hitler's: Is this how America's slide into totalitarianism begins?
A society is not free if it’s elections are stolen.
A society is not free if only ONE political party's votes are counted! Name me ONE 1-party state (other political parties being outlawed, explicitly or "de facto"), that had long-term peace and prosperity as a 1-party state? Just ONE such example, please, power-luster?
Yes. Which is why we need election reform to ensure free and fair elections.
Just have the red guards secure the election.
You mean electoral reform like paper ballots, public hand counts and voter ID?
Or do you mean electoral reform like calling people racist for wanting those measures instituted?
Paper ballots should be standard. Hand counts are less accurate then machine counts, but spot audits is needed. Voter ID is ok as long as there are stringent measures to make it easy and free to get an ID (that is where most states with voter ID fail).
And yet it is 100% free in Texas, one of the states you profs love to shit on.
Damn no edit.
But congrats on not being completely irrational about voting reforms.
You're an idiot; it is free and easy to get ID that is approved for voting in states that require it. Bas and ignorance are truly your defining characteristics.
Yes. Which is why we need election reform to ensure free and fair elections.l
And the reforms you support?
No voter ID
Ballots mailed to all residents
No chain of custody requirements
No transparency in the counting process
Same day voting and registration
Multiple voting days
Centralization of all elections
Good lord, the gaslighting from the shills is excreble.
The democrats are literally trying to pass a national law allowing organized vote fraud, and they are claiming that checking ID is anti-democratic. This is even dumber than Biden saying we have to spend another couple Trillion to fight inflation.
Free people don't need leaders, Molly. Government is only supposed to be the hired help for the specific purpose of protecting Individual Rights, not our masters. Whether they are elected or appointed is tangential. Get it right.
The author - like every fence-sitting RINO or morally ambivalent libertarian - is jousting at windmills (or chasing unicorns, to be more contemporary).
She fancies herself “fair and even-minded” by trying to convince herself that there are just as many authoritarian conservatives - despite their non-official creed of live and let live. Like Jussie Smollet who is so certain everything is racist but is frustrated his demented world-view isn’t reflected in the Real World, Veronique must desperately stuff hay into pathetic straw-men like Trump.
Denial will always be the undoing of the intellectually pretentious.
“convince herself that there are just as many authoritarian conservatives”
Can you point out in her blog post where she said anything about the number of authoritarian conservatives (or authoritarian anythings)?
"Rhetorically, sealioning fuses persistent questioning—often about basic information, information easily found elsewhere, or unrelated or tangential points—with a loudly-insisted-upon commitment to reasonable debate.
It disguises itself as a sincere attempt to learn and communicate. Sealioning thus works both to exhaust a target's patience, attention, and communicative effort, and to portray the target as unreasonable.
While the questions of the "sea lion" may seem innocent, they're intended maliciously and have harmful consequences."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
“their non-official creed of live and let live”
Was that was it was. “live and let live”, when the rioters stormed the Capitol building on January 6th?
“Stormed” with an FBI agent in the vanguard.
The great selfie storm of 2020. So much worse than 100 nights of riots in Portland.
But, they sat in pelosis chair!
Was that was it was. “live and let live”, when the rioters stormed the Capitol building on January 6th?
Absolutely.
The people wanted to live, and let all Americans live as they always has, without their nation being destroyed by a illegal junta that was preparing to install itself through threats of extreme violence.
They failed, and the junta took over, placing a demented old man in the White House as an obviously puppeteered figurehead for their destroy America agenda.
She fancies herself “fair and even-minded” by trying to convince herself that there are just as many authoritarian conservatives
Conservatives have plenty of authoritarian leanings about banning gay marriage, instituting prayer in schools, etc. BUT, most of these are mere pipe dreams that will NEVER be enacted, and the conservatives are not in the ascendancy. Maybe if we have a dozen years of Republican Presidents and Congress there will be actual policies to criticize and the pendulum will have swung so that conservatives really are more authoritarian.
See this is just so wrong.
Conservatives have plenty of authoritarian leanings about banning gay marriage,
Conservatives never tried to ban gay marriage. Because there was nothing to ban. There was no such thing as 'gay marriage'
And they wanted to REMOVE the ban on prayer in school, not institute it.
There's a BIG difference.
"Denial will always be the undoing of the intellectually pretentious"
Says the guy who thinks "live and let live" is the "non-official creed" of authoritarian conservatives.
France currently has a problem with a not insignificant percentage of a certain class of immigrant being violently hostile to French culture. There has been a wave of arson of French churches, for instance. If you have immigrants who are intolerant of the host people and culture, you are going to get resistance from the native born population.
In a similar light, LGBTQ as a political movement has become intolerant of disagreement and powerful enough to punish dissent from their increasingly bizarre and illogical worldview. Of course, there is going to be resistance.
Shut up and cheer for the stunning and brave swimmer shim.
There is a rift between LGB and TQ. The LGB crowd is much less authoritarian and embraces the difference between biological sexes (lesbians in particular are critical of the TQs), whereas the TQs want to erase any distinction.
It should be easy. If you have a 'Y' chromosome you are male. If not, female.
TheTQ are the worst,, but The LGB still want laws to make you bake their custom order cake. It is a relative thing such as the difference between a Nazi and a mere fascist.
In America, this illiberalism was visible in many of the policies pushed by former President Donald Trump, including industrial policies riddled with favoritism and hostility to foreign workers and immigrants.
Yeah, I would sure hope so! You may have noticed what happens when global supply chains get disrupted due to things like pandemics and wars, and your supply of essential components becomes constrained or completely cut off.
"No problem!", says the economist, "new suppliers will spring up like mushrooms overnight to meet the demand! Subsidizing domestic industries is inefficient! Riccardo's Law of Comparative Advantage!".
Except, of course, it takes 10 years for a semiconductor foundry to go from breaking ground to operational readiness. That's one fucking slow growing mushroom! If your need is immediate, you're pretty well fucked.
This is what comes from taking advice from economists, who have no fucking clue what's actually involved in manufacturing, or for that matter, anything to do with industry.
Bingo. Riccardo didn't say much about currency did he? Let's all go back to the gold standard and then let's see how much US manufacturing gets oursourced...ha ha
The author needs some basic economics (Austrian would be preferred of course).
The author has a PhD in economics, which is my point. If any economist, as an economist (I assume there are a few economists that might know how to brew a good craft beer) has ever produced anything useful, I'm unaware of it.
Economics majors tend to be the people who weren't smart enough to major in a STEM field, and too socially inept to major in Grievance Studies. It's the run off drain for mediocrities.
LOL
Sort of like bad suit wearing weathermen.
Well let's see she hit the all the right points. Bashed Catholics, bashed anyone who believes nation states have a right to protect their borders and decide who gets in. We then go to the moronic view on trade. Free trade demands both sides don't subsidize their producers, put up tariffs and most importantly don't peg their currency or manipulate it. Obviously, the US has gotten screwed (ok we did it to ourselves as we allowed the govt elites to print money, run debt to buy votes and then outsource the inflation to China) with "China Trade." JC with friends like this...
"Fascist apologetics, in my Reason?"
It's More Likely Than You Think...
Is this a fucking joke? That’s not a rhetorical question.
Hahahaaaaaaa... please, just stop... I can't take this parody site anymore!!!
>Right wing gets completely routed.
>Both chambers and the white house belong to Democratic Party
>wAtCh OuT fOr ThOsE rEpUbLiCaNs tOo
Uh huh. Sure.
As if it isn’t very likely Congress will go back to the Republicans in the next midterms.
And what, threaten people with decreased regulations and tax cuts again?
The horror!
It is 100% up in the air how 2022 will shake out.
If 2020 is anything to go off of, millions more people will show up to vote Democrat, despite nobody really wanting their policies.
Judging by the comments, the author's point is proved. Right wing authoritarianism will be a problem. The answer is not to be found at the extremes but in the middle. Left wing, ring wing are bad news for democracy. Moderation and compromise are the way out.
Kudos for Moderation4ever!!! Agreed!
excerpt below from http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ ...
So ye lust after the utter, eternal destruction of the “D” team, and the eternal victory of the “R” team? (The inverse kind of ideological idiot exists also, but not so much, on these pages = specifically where I sometimes comment, at https://reason.com/latest/ ).
“R” team likes to demonize “D” team? Biden is going to outlaw the internal combustion engine, tomorrow, to “Make American Green Again”? The NEW MAGA? Bullshit, demonizers!
“D” team likes to say that the next “R” POTUS (Alex Jones maybe?) will outlaw ALL abortion, and birth control? And turn ALL women into enslaved baby-making machines, because every sperm is sacred? Bullshit, demonizers!
All is for The Hive… The Tribe-Nation… Or, All is for the Individual, and you may NOT (of your own supposed “free will”) join a VOLUNTARY commune?! There can be NO compromise, traitors!!!
The males must UTTERLY DEFEAT the females, who must NEVER speak again!
Yin must smash Yang, till Yang exists no more!
Creation must smash destruction! NO eggs may be broken, for making omelets!
Life must rule over death, and NO ONE may die, to make room for the new living! No matter HOW old and decrepit they get! YOU MAY NOT DIE!!!
Do you ideological idiots NOT see that “R” v/s “D” falls into the same category? You would destroy it ALL (multi-party democracy, “balance”) in the name of your POWER PIG FANTASIES!!!
The ONLY way that ye will get your “ultimate victory” is in the DEATH OF IT ALL!!! The new POTUS, Alex Jones, will declare Nuclear War for the Ultimate Victory… And yin and yang, male and female, “D” and “R”, individual v/s tribe… they all ARE NO MORE!!!
Are you HAPPY now, ideological idiots and power-lusters?!!?
(Sorry if that was “in your face”, but I hope that my point has been made).
No one reads you anymore, sarco.
I considered muting him but his posts are so banal it hardly seems worth the effort.
Actually meant moderation. I already muted Sqrlzy.
M4E is a parody.
Did not know that.
Poe's Law was beaten to a bloody heap here in 2020.
Lol.
TOO TRUE!
I don't think M4E is a parody. It is too consistent and occasionally uses logic. It is a squishy middle person (or pretends to be) to try to blunt the criticism of the Progs.
I agree, not a parody, just another dipshit.
So ye lust after the utter, eternal destruction of the “D” team, and the eternal victory of the “R” team?
No, you pathetic half-man.
We lust after the death of beautifully phrased idiocies that cause good people to gleefully take the path that leads to poverty, oppression and destruction of all the things those beautiful phrases claim to support while despising in practice.
It's not about party, it's about policy--and not what they SAY, what they DO.
Are you so blind, so steeped in dogma, that you cannot see that everything said comes down to that?
"It's not about party, it's about policy--and not what they SAY, what they DO."
Agreed! Just read somewhere around HALF of the comments here, and you will see about that many posters who think that Party "R" can do no wrong, and that Party "D" can do no right!
Der TrumpfenFuhrer blessed and started a failed insurrection against democracy itself... Against honest vote-counting. And He STILL will NOT take back His Big Lie! I for one will NOT forgive Him (or a party that still backs their Emperor-God) until I hear retractions of, and apologies for, the Big Lie.
"What they DO"... Stop DOING this, R Party, if you want my support!
Youre not a moderate, holy fuck this is so tiresome from the left. Every dumbass thinks they are the perfect middle.
You've supported vaccine mandates, asked hospitals to deny care to unvaccinated, pushed for CRT, applauded locking up of non violent protestors for months, called foe the jailing of the right, defended the jan 6th commission going into private emails and banking records. I mean shit man. Are you fucking delusional?
There are no successful stories of moderates in history. You won't succeed either.
That’s quite the sweeping statement.
Does that include the people that wrote our Constitution? Didn't they compromise and find middle ground?
That doesn’t mean they were “Moderates”. Jesus Christ.
No. And at no point were they moderates, considering that they were embarking on a revolutionary form of governance.
The closest things the founders had to moderates were, unironically, the slave holders, who wanted to continue slavery in perpetuity. As laid out in the document itself, the sale was to end.
Kinda knew nobartium’s statement would be unfalsifiable since he will give his own unique definitions for “moderate” and “succeed”.
moderation is the hobgoblin of little minds Emerson
"extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue" Goldwater
Truer words were never spoken. Liberty must be defended in every generation against authoritarianism that lurks in the hearts of man.
What Emerson said was: " A foolish consistency is a hobgoblij of little minds." (Emphasis mine.)
Which doesn't contradict what Goldwater said either. Consistency and Extremism are only as good or bad as what you are consistently or extremely for or against.
Exactly why the world is neatly divided into pure communist dictatorships, pure fascist dictatorships, and government-free anarcho-capitalist utopias, with nothing stable imbetween.
Judging by the comments, the author's point is proved.
Where's the right-wing authoritarianism in these comments?
Mostly in Sqrlsy's head.
So what would "moderation" between Antifa/BLM/Progressive/Wokeism and Alt-Right/Proud Boys/NatCons/White Supremacists look like?
No soup for anyone, whether beef or soy?
Sunday closings 7 days a week?
Every woman a Trad/Feminist scold and every man an Cuck/Incel?
Let Left and Right unite and get the (((Insurlar/Cosmopolitan/Orthodox/Secular/Capitalist/Communist)))?
Two bad things do not taste great together.
https://www.businessinsider.com/marine-ron-filipkowski-monitors-trump-supporters-rightwing-conspiracy-theories-online-2021-12
“Attorney General Merrick Garland drew attention to the problem when he called on the FBI to address illegal threats against public servants, Filipkowski said. But the response was ‘just bungled,’ he said, with the Department of Justice relying too much on a National School Boards Association's complaint — one that riled Republicans by comparing threats to domestic terrorism.
“In October, he tweeted a video of the Brevard County School Board member Jennifer Jenkins' speech about the threats and harassment she had endured. ‘THIS is what the Garland memo was about,’ he wrote, not about Republicans' ‘BS that the FBI is arresting moms for speaking!’”
Lying mike shills for fascism yet again.
You've had evidence that parents were put into the terrorist database multiple times linked to you you worthless shit.
Also this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-two-election-workers-break-silence-after-enduring-trump-backers-threats/ar-AARGfcX
Exclusive-Two election workers break silence after enduring Trump backers' threats
Trumpists sending death threats to election workers! What a surprise!!!
Oh, well the FBI said it, so Dee believes it. So libertarian.
Holy fucking shit how can you write this with a straight face?
Because They pay him by the word maybe?
Could you explain the nature of your beef with her blog post?
ElvisIsReal might be bitching up an incoherent storm, 'cause ElvisIsReal may feel that it could do MUCH better columns for Reason.com!
Therefor I say to ElvisIsReal...
Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!
So I discussed your awesome talents with some dear personal friends on the Reason staff… Accordingly…
Reason staff has asked me to convey the following message to you:
Hi Fantastically Talented Author:
Obviously, you are a silver-tongued orator, and you also know how to translate your spectacular talents to the written word! We at Reason have need for writers like you, who have near-magical persuasive powers, without having to write at great, tedious length, or resorting to boring facts and citations.
At Reason, we pay above-market-band salaries to permanent staff, or above-market-band per-word-based fees to freelancers, at your choice. To both permanent staff, and to free-lancers, we provide excellent health, dental, and vision benefits. We also provide FREE unlimited access to nubile young groupies, although we do firmly stipulate that persuasion, not coercion, MUST be applied when taking advantage of said nubile young groupies.
Please send your resume, and another sample of your writings, along with your salary or fee demands, to ReasonNeedsBrilliantlyPersuasiveWriters@Reason.com .
Thank You! -Reason Staff
You almost make me miss white Indian.
Whenever Sqrlsy feels like he's losing he brings out the extra long copypasta.
And that is why I put him on mute. If his posts were just stupid shit, I could scroll past, but when he posts multiple pages of copypasta, it renders the comments nearly unreadable.
I’ll unmute him every few days just to see what crazy shut he’s posting, but goddamn, would brevity kill him?
I think that shitting up the board and making conversation impossible is what he's aiming for.
Exactly. Squirrels that aren’t roadkill are best muted.
Brevity is the essence of wit.
Hence Sqrlsy.
In 2022 the GOP still won't control the White House, the Media, Big Tech...........
Ok, what about in 2024? 2028?
What about in state legislatures?
What about in the other countries she mentioned?
Hate to break it to you, but the GOP will never control Big Tech, The Media, or other countries.
And “the right” in other countries is almost always just a different flavor of totalitarian statism.
It’s bullshit?
Is it really a shock to see that a libertarian site is opposed to authoritarianism of either a conservative or progressive kind? That's what reason supporters expect. Moderation and compromise is "the way out" so long as it produces more freedom and not less. Please, reason, keep calling out the authoritarians of any stripe who want to harm individual rights, whether they have an R or a D or even an L after their name.
Yippee-yi-yo, hooray for creech!!!!
Get back in your crate, gimp!
Fucking pathetic, creep
Fuck off. When have Reason writers ever called out the marxist left unprompted? They are the problem since they are all Leftists.
Please
In 2022, Pay Attention to Right-Wing Authoritarianism... Please!
Please pay attention to ALL forms of Authoritarianism!!!
(Agree, concur, duly noted!)
Get back in your crate, Gimp.
In my native France, rising star and presidential candidate Eric Zemmour has been open about his desire to return to a time when the country was run exclusively by and for French folks and immigrants who truly embraced French culture
Sacre Bleu. An actual believer in France's greatness.
We need more people like him.
As if this is not mainstream French thought. Always.
They have actual laws about the use of language and the amount of non-french entertainment allowed.
The idea that a politician in France chewing to those ideas is the next Hitler is beyond stupid.
Vero has evidently watched "Eye of Vichy." When France capitulated to Christian National Socialism, mystical conservatives began bullying libertarians (which they call liberals), communists and Jyooz in the name of Jesus. Integralista is the name adopted by Brazilian racial collectivist fascisti. What she leaves out is that nazis and fascists are christian while communists aren't. That sole distinction between the rival hordes is over which looters do or do not love the Baby Jesus. To this day that has not changed.
Holy crap! I thought with the end of Trump the TDS level stupidity was abating.
I am nearing the end of my rope. I used to love this magazine, but they heap stupid on top of tepid on top of idiotic. Other than Robby, nobody has much worth reading. The Jacket is mostly on the right side, but he has been beaten down. Welch blew an aneurysm with Trump and has been dumb as a stump ever since. And the ladies? Oof. Other than sex work articles, they are actively terrible.
It is time to clean house. Keep Robby and the Jacket and Lenore. Bring in that lady from Portland and see if you can get Kmele to join the team. Maybe you could convince Greenwald and a couple of his cohort to be guest columnists?
This place could barely find a libertarian with a map and a flashlight.
WORD
Fuck you and all your marxist friends. There is a reason you're not taken seriously in any economic circle and the only people who listen to you are the retards af academia.
Well and the college educated. And industry leaders. And scientific institutions. And American-stye libertarians. A few other exceptions. Mostly true though.
So what you're saying is, the Democrats have no tolerance for racism and xenophobia. Which proves they must be racist and xenophobic because otherwise they wouldn't have to say such things.
VdR is a fantastic economics journalist. Her ability to summarize the many nuanced "hidden costs" of government are a gem to be treasured.
So why, of all the many economic foot-shooting being done by our government, is Ms de Rugy suddenly obsessed with the tendencies of people who are out of power? TRILLIONS of dollars in pork are being shoveled and shoved into our economy, and she wants to talk about the Right? What the hell is going on here? This is not the Reason I donated to.
Yes, she should stay in her lane where her expertise is useful.
Another MAGA circle jerk here.
Carry on, and use the hand sanitizer when exiting.
MaSk Up aNd vaCciNaTe tOo!! Remember, just 15 days to stop the spread!!
In order to be watchful for something, you have to know what you’re looking for.
Authoritarian : of, relating to, or favoring blind submission to authority
That’s what you’re looking for, not mindful submission to authority.
To do this, you’re going to need a useful brain and learn how to discern reality, that authority which you have no rational choice but to submit to.
You’ll have to learn to prove what you claim and refute what you deny. Or simply accept your inferiority to those who do.
Can't tell if this is Poe's law.
One point of constant annoyance for me is the political dichotomy "right and left" when it is used across the pond. If Right-Wing Europeans are winning elections and being authoritarian, then it's assumed that Republicans and Right-Wing Conservatives in the US will do the same thing.
I'm aware that there has been a Europeanization of Right-Wing thought in the US, but by and large, the majority of Conservatives are attempting to conserve American Liberalism. European Conservatives are much more likely to be interested in preserving established aristocracies and into blood and soil kind of nativism. Their conservatives don't have a liberal tradition to conserve.
My point is they're not the same thing.
So yes. Watch out for European-Style Authoritarians. But here in the US, European-Style Authoritarianism isn't really coming from those who are attempting to conserve liberalism. VdR would do well not to conflate the two.
Are you suggesting that it matters which side left or right is authoritarian? Talk about missing the forest for the trees.
The biggest challenge facing all these fuckwit hypocrites will be recognizing and owning what constitutes an authority worthy of submitting to.
No. I'm saying the American "Right-Wing" is not authoritarian because it is philosophically liberal. Comparing it to the European "right-wing" is apples and oranges. It annoys me when writers try to equate them.
The Authoritarian part is the bad part. Doesn't matter who is doing it.
Yeah.
But there’s no point focussing on distractions.
Left and right are only a distraction from what’s important, right and wrong.
I assume you mean liberal in the sense of unrestricted markets (though the types of major debates these days hardly concern ideal examples of classic liberalism – e.g. government picking industry winners via selective pollution rights.)
It isn't really right to either (a) divorce the term from its historical roots connected to civil liberties, in the sense of "willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own" or to (b) pretend the American right is characterized by promotion of civil liberties (degenerates to garden-variety revisionism "it was actually conservatives backing MLK, women's rights, homosexual rights etc.")
Literally the distinction between conservatives and classic liberals was that conservatives had concerns both about the mercantile focus of market liberalism and the cultural challenges of social liberalism. These tensions continue today, and if anything American conservatism has been lurching away from both.
Free Individuals agree when presented with valid evidence or defer to those who are better studied on a subject.
What Free Individuals do not do is submit to any damn body.
Expect to encounter more of us Free Individuals if you're planning something over at the local Beer Hall.
Remember: Friends don't friends Putsch drunk.
"Free Individuals agree when presented with valid evidence"
*Rational individuals
But American conservatives are doing no such thing as trying to preserve American liberalism.
Their discernible policies are:
1) Lower taxes on the rich
2) Force women to give birth against their will
3) Profit (for polluting industries)
Oh I forgot,
4) Cancel democracy so that Republicans can have perpetual control.
Sounds pretty fucking fashy to me.
Look! A squirrel!
Terrible Reason. Pure trash.
Libertarianism has a Catch-22 that you haven't realized yet; freedom is not self sustaining. The natural state of man is not to be free. It is the ideal state, but not natural. Look at how many people willfully surrendered their freedom on a daily basis for the past 2 years. Most people have not been free for the majority of recorded history. Even today, we haven't reached the standard of freedom that most libertarians share.
Freedom is not an "anything goes" policy. That's anarchy. Freedom requires institutional protection because it is not a natural state of man. People don't intrinsically respect one another's autonomy. There's a reason the Enlightenment didn't happen 1000 years ago. Human beings have normalized war, slavery, bigotry, and many dehumanizing systems of oppression where people are treated as objects and property.
Rules are the only way to protect freedom. Sometimes, those rules forbid people from doing things that destroy freedom. Defending freedom is not un-free.
I remember sophomore year...
Was that when you first developed a taste for sucking State cock?
Good job awildseaking!!
(Power pigs resent those of us who call them what they are, by the way.)
There is a reason why so many people accepted rule by Empires and it had nothing to do with their not liking freedom. It was because Empires kept the peace among their subjects who could have the
FREEDOM (and Prof. Alexander J. Groth put it) to cross the street without being gunned down.
It is the same reason why so many people were nostalgic for Marshall Tito after the breakup of Yugoslavia. It was not that they liked communism, it is that they liked not to live dogding Serbs or Croats.
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1476963122569265162?t=mQX15fFHw_-p77RUncGXJgcocktail?
Illinois Holocaust Museum Begins Requiring Visitors to Show Approved Travel and Vaccination Papers
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This is so gentle and mild compared with how quarantines and isolation were enforced in older epidemics.
You have just created a litmus test to identify who really cares about freedom and who just hates the left.
HInt: people who just hate the left only care about THEIR freedom and to Hell with other people.
Or they only care about economic freedom - which leads to such ridiculous results as a think tank rating Saudi Arabia as freer than Argentina - which would be a surprise for the Argentinian women who go wherever they want by themselves work wherever they choose and drink cocktails at the bar.Or to have a supposedly libertarian magazine praise Pinochet's Chile. Because a secret police and tortures are just minor details.
Why do I keep thinking of Don Giovanni singing "Viva la liberta" as he plots to seduce/rape the bride he is toasting?
No one is pressuring anyone to change the election. They are pressuring them to release the data from the election. That should not be a problem, but Democratic cites and mayors refuse to do that. That alone makes me wonder why? It should be easy to finally prove the elections where fair, if they were fair.
Even if you removed Biden at this point you would get Harris, and if you removed Biden and Harris you would get Pelosi, and nobody wants her for President.
Wanting to ensure elections are fair is not Authoritarianism.
Trying to have the Federal elections removed from the states when you control the Presidency, Senate and House is Authoritarianism.
Packing the courts is Authoritarianism.
The president threatening governors is Authoritarianism.
Making one or two territories states which lean to your party without counter-balancing that with the same number of territories which lean to the other party is Authoritarianism (i.e. Hawaii and Alaska)
When you legislation fails because your own parity members vote it down, using executive orders to do the same thing is Authoritarianism.
Keeping political prisoners in jail for trespassing for more than a year without charges, bail or a trial is Authoritarianism.
Party makes no difference, these things are Authoritarianism.
I do see Authoritarianism in this country, but not from where Reason says it is coming.
"Wanting to ensure elections are fair is not Authoritarianism"
The most Orwellian take imaginable. Pushing on multiple fronts to throw out the votes of states where the President lost – and replacing with bogus toadie "alternate electors". There are plenty of legal avenues for challenging counts, none of which had any reason to bear fruit obviously and did not.
Read the Eastman memo among other artifacts of the kind of thinking being pushed in the attempt on the election. How can anyone back this and even pretend to patriotism or American style libertarianism? Completely mind boggling and sobering. The deep unconscious craving for the strong rule, "freedom" and sham republic of Putin's Russia...
A good time to remind of another prescient Hayek quote, that we've seen play out in spades month by month:
"The most objectionable feature of the conservative attitude is its propensity to reject well-substantiated new knowledge because it dislikes some of the consequences which seem to follow from it".
A literal multi-pronged attempt to render U.S. Constitutional rule meaningless, overthrowing the will of millions of voters in favor of authoritarian rule, replete with violent followers whipped into a frenzy trying to chase down politicians and disrupt Constitutional proceedings. Constitutional rule holding due to thinly stretched institutions like DOJ staffers offering widespread threats to resign rather than execute illegal orders – institutions that are easy targets for further attempts at corruption. And ideological rightists predictably are aghast and enraged that anyone would dare even speak of all this without mindlessly parrot the daft conspiracy theories that are said to justify it all.
*That* is the essence of the authoritarian threat – not the existence of corrupt and power-hungry men which is eternal, but the power of a movement willing to construct and internalize layered propaganda in service of justifying violence and hunger for power, and branding it "patriotism".
Not only do we need to watch out for left and wing wing authoritarianism, there's also the authoritarians that come from above, below, behind, and in your face.
Mainly worried about them if they have organized, institutional power and plausible access to police and military.
Diffuse sources of power and checks and balances. Super-powered executive branch is anti-libertarian and support for it is a quick home test anyone can do to check for fake "Libertarianism", IMO.
Compared to left wing totalitarianism as in Canada with their forced vaxx mandates. So much so that Canuks are taking to the streets in protest but is Justine Castro Trudeau even listening? Does he and the rest of the leftists in Ottawa government really care? They don't.
Australia and New Zealand are two more examples of left wing extremism in government.Australia is without a doubt the worst with its concentration camps and the jailing of a Serbian tennis star.
Then there's France not being wracked by protests over forced vaxx mandates. Mandated by the leftist government and the little Kommissar Macron. Macron obviously hates the people. He loathes and despises anyone who dares refuse his decrees. I've no doubt he would send all those to the Bastille if he thought he could get away with it. Surprised he hasn't.
So yes , there are right wing authoritarians but those on the left are as bad if not worse as they torture their fellow citizens with the approval of their own conscience.
Charges of election fraud in 2020 were never fully investigated. Any claims of irregularities were quickly dismissed and buried by Democrats and their subservient press. Unlike the so-called “Russian collusion” investigation after 2016, which was investigated by both Congress and the press for at least two years before being exposed as a hoax.
The politics of this country will drag the country down.
"Shackled by forgotten words and bonds and ink stains that are dried upon some line"
Learning she is from France explains a lot.
The Founders may have believed that Individual Rights came from "Creator," however, not necessarily the Creator of Christianity. They also held that authority of Government was human in origin. Otherwise, they never would have acted to "alter or abolish" the authority of Kjng George III and the Britush Crown.
Besides, the problem with Divine Right is: if Individual Rights came from a God, wouldn't that mean that God could alienate rights, as indeed he did throughout The Holy Bible?
To paraphrase the beer commercial: "What's More Natural Than Natural--(Not Supernatural)-- Rights?"
Sometimes I think Reason is just funning with us, deliberately putting out this garbage to keep us on our toes.
Because they CANNOT be this serious.
Correct and if you don't support it, the FBI will pay you a visit.
Koch dollars destroyed Reason and Cato, but they helped afford a lot of Huffpo-tier proggy writers.
They are embarrassed and disdainful of their own supporters, and I maintain they wished covid had wiped them out.
I guess I’m so old I remember when the left didn’t champion child porn.
Oh FFS, Encog. Where are you getting this stuff from?
Close the Skeptics Annotated because it's less reality based than the text it's "debunking" and go read some actual history.
Try Religion For Breakfast, it is a great secular channel for the academic study of religion: https://www.youtube.com/user/ReligionForBreakfast
He’s always lazy.
There is no "divine" right of the individual because a divinity does not exist.
And if we're going to use a Gawd we are going to use mine because he offers more rights than the Christian Gawd/Monster. And we sure as hell not using that evil Islamic Gawd.
As Ayn Rand rightly summed it up: " The source of man's rights is not Divine Law or Congressional Law but the Law of Identity. A is A and Man is Man."
Man's nature as a rational animal requires that, in order to live, he must think, produce, keep and utilize the fruit of production for his betterment, and man must have emotional fuel to further his effort. And since he does all this in a social context among other humans, from this, we derive that the Individual has the Right to Life, Liberty, Property, and The Pursuit of Happiness.
And the Nature of which man is a part is a metaphysical given, meaning Nature was not created and cannot be destroyed (per The Law of Conservation, the Law of Thermodynamics, Einstein's Theory of Relativity, etc.)
The notion of Government deriving authority from the Divine was around since humans had both belief in the Supernatural and the establishment of Governments. That wasn't revolutionary.
The Founders, however, questioned both The Divine Right of Kings and the notion of Divine intervention in Nature and in particular human affairs. Thomas Jefferson even urged his Nephew to: "Question with boldness even the existence of God." That was revolutionary.
None of the Founders were "godless anarchists," so there's another Strawman for the Promethean flames. The Founders however were sympathetic to the Deist/Unitarian zeitgeist even when still affiliated with churches, which explains their questioning of Divine and Government Authority and their support of freedom of conscience.
As for Protestantism, while the printing and dissemination of Scriptures did help The Enlightenment questioning of Divine and Government Authority, Protestant founders Martin Luther and John Calvin were both as Authoritarian and oppressive as the Royalty and the Papacy.
Luther supported the violent suppression of the Peasants' War and when the Jews wouldn't join his campaign against the Papacy, Luther wrote Über Die Jüden Und Ehre Lügen (On The Jews And Their Lies an Anti-Jewish, violence-inciting tract which later was an inspiration for the Nazis.
John Calvin created the Totalitarian, Theocratic Utopia called Geneva, which burned Michael Servetus at the stake for arguing agsinst The Holy Trinity, and persecuted other heretics and regiment every aspect of life for it's residents.
Calvin also inspired the Puritans, who moved to the North American Continent, not for religious freedom, but for "freedom" to persecute others for exercising their religious freedom.
Today's Evangelicals, Fundamentalist Mormons, Dominionists, Christian Reconstructionists, and Christian Identity crowds all want to contnue this ugly legacy of tyranny and will do so at the first chance.
I say not in my nation and not on my watch.
But you're shifless.
Yeah, better to believe in Marx instead.
Yeah, a 14 year old Jew hiding from the Nazis is a "collaborator".
You're a stupid cunt.
You’re full of shif.
Meant for "shifless".
But I might be a cunt too. Who knows?
His father converted to Christianity. And Soros never claimed to be Jewish. He also said it was the happiest time of his life.
Why do you love Nazis?
What a shock that the first thing that pops in to the hicklib pederast's mind is an underage kid.
Mainland China has 1/6th of the per-person GNP that the USA has even today, w/o considering that they were EATING EACH OTHER during their "Great Leap Forward"!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxi_Massacre
If you LIKE this kind of society, please move there! But please STOP advocating for a 1-party state here!
Is that the only other choice? You moron?
What about an Ayn Rand Galt's Gulch?
Where capitalism reigns and religion is openly mocked?
Religion is the enemy of freedom - we don't need it. I look at Islam/Xtianity and wonder who in the hell wants to shackle themselves with that shit.
You miss the point again.
The Nazis would have killed him had they discovered he was a Jew.
He was hiding by cooperating like any rational person would do.
Thanks for self-identifying as a piece of shit.
Excusing race traitors must be a part of the deal when Soros supplies you with CP.
"He was hiding by cooperating"
He was literally helping the Nazis find hidden Jews and stealing their belongings. That's a tad more than merely cooperating.
Pluggo’s seal of approval.
Ask the people of Hong Kong, and of Tibet, and of the western deserts (the Uighurs) whether they are enjoying their "peace", very much, please! WHY are the people of Taiwan NOT clamoring to join the reds? And WHY haven't you moved there yet?
USA is 6 times as prosperous per-capita as China is! Have you noticed THAT part?
And you are the enemy of rational thought. I get it!
Humanity will always cling to a religion. Shitheads like you just replaced the church with the government.
Religion is the enemy of freedom
I disagree - and I am an atheist. Religion has often been USED to suppress freedom, but at its core it is about 'do unto others'. (Islam seems more oppressive with its sharia law)
And remember that the original phrase was "Whatever is hateful and distasteful to you, do not do to your fellow man. This is the entire Torah, the rest is commentary. Go learn" (- Hillel), which is almost perfectly libertarian.
Amazing how much you bring her up and you don't realize you're one of her villains. Lol. Youre not an objectivist
You’ll die alone.
Dead men (and dead women) tell no tales!! Just shut UP about being threatened and KILLED, then! It is totally OK with authoritarians and totalitarians like Goldilicks Gorillashit, so long as it has a TINY-TINY chance of being rewarded, by the Trumptatorshit, with "access" to "sloppy 2nds", or more like sloppy 323ds, with Stormy Daniels!
Hey power pig! Dictators do NOT deliver on their promises! Study this; the "night of the long knives".
So many of us fantasize that our support of those who we think is (or will be) the “winner” will earn us the support of the “winners” and their spoils.
See “the night of the long knives” at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives… Ernst Röhm (head brownshirt, street brawler, for Hitler) thought his support of Hitler would leave him sitting pretty. So sorry, Ernst Röhm, Hitler had another thing coming for you…
Right here on Reason.com comments, we see the same thing. The “brownshirts” of the commentary (Nards, etc.) try to brownshirt their enemies off of the comments board, tell their enemies to commit suicide, and other “street fighting”. They, I suspect, expect payback (war spoils) from “winning” Orange Hitler, just as Ernst Röhm did from “winning” Hitler.
They and their ilk, too, have another thing coming… Orange Hitler will throw them under the bus, the VERY first instant that Orange Hitler finds it to be convenient to Him… Just as Shitler-Hitler threw Ernst Röhm under the bus!
And if 1-party power pigs like YOU get their way, and we get to "enjoy" a 1-party "R" state in the USA, my dead body will be eaten by starving MAGA barbarians!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxi_Massacre
If you LIKE this kind of society, please move there! But please STOP advocating for a 1-party state here!
No one read that.
If true, their problem, not mine.
More likely you are so old you remember when they didn't admit it.
I'm so old I remember when the only such concern was adult porn. Child porn was thought too insignificant to be a concern.
COVID really let them down.
Could be.
I’m sorry I meant to say that you’d die in a puddle of piss.
Not your piss though.
Sqrlsy will be on the piss covered ground moaning "If only Comrade Stalin knew. If he only knew, he'd put a stop to it all".
I don't think he's ever going to clue in that the authoritarian attacks on conservatives that he loves so much, won't just be limited to conservatives in the near future.
Marxist “Christian Theological Expert” MammaryBahnFuhrer chimes in to defend those who think that Red China is showing us the Shining Glorious Path to 1-Party Drool-Rule!!!
WHY am I not surprised?
Well that's the opposite of what I was doing.
You should read this book Sqrlsy. It's called "The People of the Lie" and it's about guys like you.
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
You offer the opposite of illumination.
Lol, okay Champ.
The niggardly ones among us... Niggardly in their allocations of benevolence and deep and sincere thought, especially... Do not desire illumination at ALL!!! They lust after MORE darkness!
If you ever come around to wanting to work on your affliction, EvilBahnFuhrer, start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.
Do you think Peck's ghost will get pissed off that you're using his anti-lying book to lie about shit, and start to haunt your withered ass?
Zooming down from the treetops, our Plucky Squirrell has saved Catherine Nixey from being tied to the railroad tracks by mystical conservative Snidely Whiplash. Don't miss the next exciting episode "Fittest to be Tied" or "Darwinisimus von Fledermaus!"
Humanity.
You ain’t human.
You’re a a communist.
It is hard to tell with sockpuppets, but since National Socialist infiltrators began rewriting the LP Platform in 1980, women... biologically correct women, have crossed the street to avoid the LP. So any sockpuppet here is likely a girl-bullying cowardly male. Only when the GARY-WELD came out as openly pro-choice did we get 4 million votes to deny one bully looter the popular mandate and send the other into conniption fits at the power of libertarian spoiler votes.
“girl-bullying”
This is a new catch phrase for you Hank. Didn’t know that was possible. Did a woman in your life experience aggression recently?
Were they masquerading 20 years ago? 40?
Not as much, but now they mask up for the masquerade.
:Were they masquerading 20 years ago? 40?
The leftists who were infiltrating and destroying? Absolutely.
You could watch it happening as Reason and the LP both kept insisting that they were not left or right but a third way.
Any organization, not explicitly right wing, will become left wing over time. Conquest's second law.
Some folks, on some topics, likely yes. Pleather being one.
And J K Rowling (or at least attempt to cancel her)
Plucky Squirrel likes it, and is looking forward to being awarded boots, spandex, and cape, for his next capers!
Europe has Social Democrats, we have Democratic Socialists. The difference is that the Euros truly believe in democracy whereas our loonies truly believe in socialism and will abuse democracy to enact it.
They fawn over him still since the and fawn over Cheney.
Do you always dismiss everyone who disagrees with you on religion as a ignorant Reddit teen Geek/Emo/Punk/Scene Kid/Neckbeard? Very Ad Hominem of you.
The Skeptics Annotated Bible is simply the complete text of the King James Version of The Holy Bible including all the ugly passages you don't hear in Sunday School or from the pulpit, combined with commentary based in Objective Reality, Reason, Logic, Common Sense, and Basic Human Ethics.
And unlike The Holy Bible it doesn't claim completeness, so you are also free to apply your own reasoning mind and new knowledge to find even more contradictions, absurdities, factual errors, and moral atrocities.
As for Religion For Breakfast, I'll only partake if I can do it and hold down real breakfast. The most important meal of the day and all that.
Were they assault extinguishers, with the shoulder thing that goes up?
The absolutely crazy thing about how they are attacking Rowling is that she is also extreme left on just about every subject. The ONE place she disagrees is with the statement that transwomen are actual women. It is the one sane stance she has and they are attempting to cancel her and her work over it. Someone needs to explain how leftism isn't a fundamentalist religious philosophy seeking to subjugate and destroy
"including all the ugly passages you don't hear in Sunday School or from the pulpit"
See, this is where you veer into, well, ignorance, because they hear that stuff from the pulpit constantly. There's are literally several hundreds of thousands of books and treatise written over the last 2000 years on exactly those supposedly "ugly" passages. I'm sorry but the idea that the hundreds of millions of people who read their Bibles every single day, haven't a clue about them is pretty dumb.
" combined with commentary based in Objective Reality, Reason, Logic, Common Sense, and Basic Human Ethics."
Actually it's filled with ahistorical mumbo-jumbo and a shocking ignorance of the material. The most ridiculous parts are when they often attack the English phrasing, forgetting that they're dealing with a poetic, artistic-license-filled translation from Greek.
The worst parts however are the retarded word-games and inferences. They're just flat out dishonest. The whole project is a joke.
"As for Religion For Breakfast, I'll only partake if I can do it and hold down real breakfast."
It's secular analysis by actual historians. It doesn't have the religious fundamentalist mindset found in theologians and in modern anti-theists.
You don't find these passages mentioned where churches are hard-up for donations, which is true for many churches now. In past times, they would use the passages, especially Revelation, to scare the shit out of backsliding congregants, both old and young.
And a real Divinely-inspired work wouldn't require "scholarship" to wriggle out it's meaning from foreign languages, "nuance," and "artistic license." Anyone from any linguistic group or period of history could open it up and immediately understand.
Better yet, a real Omnipotent Being could make his word understood without even using printed media, much like the Star Trek Universal Translator the works in real-time as part of the setting.
I see Bart Erdman is one of the people Religion For Breakfast interviewed, so maybe my sausage links and Quaker Oats will go down easy. Must investigate further...
You can't derive a moral metaphysics from the law of identity. One of many reasons why Ayn Rand isn't taken seriously by academic philosophers is that her theory of rights is poorly reasoned, bombastic trash.
So, what theory of Individual Rights would you propose is best? And if you say there are no rights, would you care to smile when you call us all rightless slaves?
There's a lot of that going around among a certain set of Atheists.
Well, rest assured, people can and do practice reciprocity without being watched and especially without being watched by some Supernatural Boogums-In-The-Closet.
What make religion an enemy of freedom is that it asks for adherance and based upon Faith, the belief in a notion regardless of and opposed to rational evidence. Once you accept Faith as a valid guide to human conduct, all the rest follows.
So why weren't Individual Rights first recognized and upheld 2500 years ago instead of 1776? Islam cribbed also from the other two Abrahamic religions, so does Islamic "culture" get included in this? Why didn't we have "the blessings of Liberty" at Mount Sinai or Golgotha or Mecca instead of stonings under The Torah, Inquisitions under The Papacy, and Sha'ria and Jihads under Islam?
And why did this particular Big Papa uphold the legality of the Church burning Giordano Bruno at the stake?
Some culture that is.
Don Lemon next or Stelter?