When Will the COVID-19 Pandemic End?
When we decide to stop paying attention to it, say two authors in the health care journal BMJ.

"The end of the pandemic will not be televised," write Princeton historian David Robertson and University of Maryland pharmacy professor Peter Doshi in the health care journal BMJ. "There is no universal definition of the epidemiological parameters of the end of a pandemic," they point out. "By what metric, then, will we know that it is actually over?"
After reviewing the history of three 20th century influenza pandemics, including the Spanish Flu pandemic that killed an estimated 675,000 Americans, Robertson and Doshi find that there will be no dramatic "end." Instead, the pandemic will "gradually fade as society adjusts to living with the new disease agent and social life returns to normal."
Robertson and Doshi point out that the tolls of previous pandemics were not recorded with daily updates on digital dashboards that anyone can easily access through the internet. "Pandemic dashboards provide endless fuel, ensuring the constant newsworthiness of the covid-19 pandemic, even when the threat is low," they argue. "In doing so, [pandemic dashboards] might prolong the pandemic by curtailing a sense of closure or a return to pre-pandemic life." Their advice? "Deactivating or disconnecting ourselves from the dashboards may be the single most powerful action towards ending the pandemic."
In May 2020, just three months into the COVID-19 pandemic when there had been only 1.4 million cases and 82,000 deaths in the U.S., I cited an article in which New York Times science reporter Gina Kolata asked, "When will the Covid-19 pandemic end? And how?" She noted that pandemics medically end when disease incidence and death rates plummet as herd immunity is achieved through either mass infection or mass vaccination. On the other hand, epidemics socially end when people grow tired of panic mode and learn to live with a disease.
In June 2021, as increasing numbers of Americans were getting vaccinated, I suggested that the end of the pandemic and a return to normalcy was in sight because daily COVID-19 deaths were approaching those of a bad flu season. I concluded that "barring an outbreak of a new highly transmissible and vaccine-resistant COVID-19 virus variant, normality is well in sight if not already here."
President Joe Biden gave a White House speech on July 4 "celebrating Independence Day and Independence from COVID-19." Biden did, however, caution, "Don't get me wrong, COVID-19 is—has not been vanquished. We all know powerful variants have emerged, like the Delta variant, but the best defense against these variants is to get vaccinated."
Well, a highly transmissible and vaccine-resistant variant has indeed emerged, but there are hopeful indications that it may cause less severe disease. And the best defense remains vaccination and booster shots.
A truly amazing best case scenario would be that infections from an exceptionally contagious yet extremely mild omicron variant speed the process of achieving herd immunity that could immunize us at least somewhat against future coronavirus variants. In any case, the BMJ authors may well be right that turning off our screens might improve our mental health—still, it will not make the virus go away.
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It's already over. It's been over. Unfortunately, cronyvirus is forever.
Just watched Biden's speech. VaxVaxVaxVaxVax. He doesn't get it. His credibility is shot. And he shot it.
Before that we had Psaki talking about 500 million free tests. What's the unit cost of these free tests?
Actually, he gets it.
As in gets the stock in all the pharmaceutical companies.
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I watched so you don't have to.
You don't trust babbly vegetable brain man with all of your personal decisions?
I'd rather listen to literal vegetables.
I miss Reagan, too.
Reagan was far more articulate than Biden at Biden's best.
I remember him from the Thomas hearings, befuddlement with a streak of meanness.
He’s only gotten worse.
Reagan TODAY is more articulate than Biden.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-20/president-biden-s-economic-performance-has-proved-unbeatable
It looks like they should have spent more time on the economy like Biden.
It's now a pandemic of government overreach.
"Just watched Biden's speech. VaxVaxVaxVaxVax. He doesn't get it. His credibility is shot. And he shot it."
Yes, but he can't remember shooting it. Hell, he can't remember who the President is.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-20/president-biden-s-economic-performance-has-proved-unbeatable
It looks like they should have spent more time on the economy like Biden.
The so-called pandemic is over long since. What still needs to end is the tyrranical response to Covid, and the way to cure that is to stop complying. With vaccination, with vax passports, even with masking. Refuse to do any of them or enforce them on anyone else. Make the boss fire you. Make the maitre d throw you out. Then sue.
It hasn't been about the virus since, at the absolute latest, May 2020. It might not have ever been.
A lot less than 2 $Trillion for the wealthy. People in Britain, who get free rapid tests delivered to their homes on demand. Or France, Germany or Belgium, where at-home tests are ubiquitous and as cheap as a decent cappuccino.
I don't think "a lot less than 2 $Trillion [sic]" is anything to brag about. Those tests in Europe certainly don't help matters.
Actually, I meant the stable genius tax cut for the rich was a lot less than BBB and would create a lot more jobs than the zero jobs the tax cut for the rich did.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwimsrrVuvj0AhVfHjQIHWpKDS8QFnoECAcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dwv-LfhV5uMY&usg=AOvVaw2XKbcUzEpoat0ADbBw63LR
Scientists in the U.S. Army are developing a Covid-19 vaccine designed to protect against current and future variants—and even other coronaviruses— and are expected to announce positive early results within weeks, a head researcher told the military news outlet Defense One on Tuesday Dec.21.
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Medically, it's over.
When will the political theatre end?
I think Johnny Mathis had the answer; The Twelfth of Never.
Airport theater never ended, and it isn't even an entertaining show.
But it has violence, nudity, and child groping!
What more can be done to entertain you?
Dwarf tossing?
That might improve it.
Live turkeys dropped from a helicopter
Tarring and feathering! Especially of imitation cops!
Have you already forgotten the explosions? You unAmerican bastard!
Third Tuesday after the second full moon after the 12th of Never.
Hear hear!
It will be over when it is no longer useful.
Instead, the pandemic will "gradually fade as society
adjusts to living with the new disease agent and social life returns to normalstupidly reacts to the next manufactured crisisIt will be over when it is no longer
usefulprofitable.When you want it to. For some of us, that was April 2020.
When we stop letting government control our lives, same answer as in March 2020.
I'm still struggling to life around people that seem to be living in a different simulation of reality.
Live
"If this be treason, make the most of it!"
It will end when hysterical idiots stop cancelling their planned vacations because the Cathedral is pushing a new variant.
the Cathedral
You mean La Papa?
In May 2020, just three months into the COVID-19 pandemic when there had been only 1.4 million cases and 82,000 deaths in the U.S.
That is about when Donnie-Boy said the warm summer weather would kill off the COVID.
LOL
Good thing Biden beat that clown so he could shut down the virus like he promised.
#LibertariansForBiden
220,000 deaths. If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this: Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain President of the United States.
- Joe Biden, October 22, 2020
No wonder he secured a historic landslide victory a couple weeks later with that message.
#VoteDemocratToFightViruses
He's done a pretty good job shutting it down. The prognosticators are correct, it's bad for democracy for the networks to run so much negative coverage of such a courageous President.
You mean like flu cases drop in the summer? As per Anthony Lysenko?
And it did until the summer spike in the sunbelt. That's how we knew it was seasonal. In 2020.
May 2018
The Trump Administration disbands the White House pandemic response team.
It's done , nothing more to see here.
The pandemic response team that wasn't doing its job properly? Yeah, that deserved to be shut down.
You're not the brightest thinker around, are you dbruce?
Bone spurs screwed up EVERYTHING he did. The unindicted co-conspirator should write a book on how to NOT not do things.
Was that when we learned that COVID was hella woke and would not spreads if a gathering expressed a sentiment the Establishment supported?
dude I've been telling you to stop paying attention to it for almost two years
Maybe the revamped BBB will include a provision for your car to automatically COVID test you. That will get us past it.
if it exists I'm sure the new "Mustang" has it
You mean the Gelding?
Ford Blücher
*neighs*
No! It can't end. I like social isolation, people keeping their distance, hiding their faces in masks and canceling needless events. It's more peaceful this way. It's an introvert's dream.
You can do all of that without a pandemic.
Speaking of Anthony Lysenko, it appears that Jesse Watters got under his thin, narcissistic skin:
Fauci calls for Fox News host to be fired 'on the spot' for 'kill shot' comments
Wow, it's not even saying the jab is a killshot like I thought, Fauci is literally complaining about people trying to debate his shitty views.
Words are violence.
I wonder what it's like to believe "I am The Science."
It'll be over I suspect in 2022 after the midterms if the dems get wiped out.
I suspect news of the Dems demise has been exaggerated.
Concur. There is a long time between now and then. Team R has blown it sooooo many times previously, I have lost count. They are politically inept. Team R now sounds cocky. They need to stop that shit ASAP.
Because of the fracturing of the GOP over COVID authoritarianism, traditional and rural Republican voters are no longer going to hold their noses and vote for establishment RINOs. Without the support of those voters, Republicans will lose elections in purple and even currently red states. I'm not seeing a debacle for the Democrats coming up.
So how do you explain the Virginia gubernatorial election? If Republicans maintain the strategy used for Youngkin's victory, they could flip a good number of seats.
You're engaged in wishful thinking.
I fear the same thing. Something about counting chickens...
It's over for a good portion of the public, even in deep blue California. People are tuning it out, yeah if they stick the microphone in enough faces they find someone who is all in an uproar, but the majority are now going on with their lives. The COVID theater is getting fewer and fewer returns on it's investment.
On a side note: companies are losing money to the furtherance of this stupidity, McDonald's still won't allow dining in. Last week we ran to Miles City. Stopped at McDonald's, no dining in allowed. Got back in our truck and drove to Wendy's and ate (they allow dining in). Four vehicles after us did the same thing. People are done with it.
And the majority of the people in the drive in at McDonald's had out of state plates, probably because McDonald's is right off the interstate and people not familiar with Miles City wouldn't realize that Wendy's is only four blocks further from the Interstate.
Miles City: McDonald's AND Wendy's.
And Arby's and Taco Bell.
And Starbucks
THE destination for foodies
Irony of 2021: a person needs a health pass to be able dine at McDonalds.
Interesting Soldier, as you know Missoula is pretty far both distance and view points from Miles City and besides non corporate stuff it's opened here without the influence of corporate guidance.
It seems like most of Eastern Montana is also, except McDonalds.
The Biden administration announced that they're giving out 500 million free at-home Covid tests.
"WASHINGTON—The Biden administration is preparing to distribute 500 million free at-home Covid-19 testing kits to Americans and deploy military doctors and nurses to overburdened hospitals this winter, as the Omicron variant spreads around the country."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-to-distribute-500-million-at-home-covid-19-test-kits-11640080802?
Meanwhile, the NFL is giving up on testing for the virus itself and starting to test viral loads--because the current vaccines and past infections are ineffective against omicron--so testing positive makes the NFL cancel and reschedules games because of positive tests with no symptoms.
"Under the previous protocols, a vaccinated individual who tests positive for COVID-19 has to produce two negative tests 24 hours apart before being cleared to return. The new protocols relax that requirement and could enable teams such as the Cleveland Browns, Los Angeles Rams and Washington Football Team to get some players back for this weekend's games.
"In creating the new return-to-play protocols, the NFL and NFLPA focused on a new metric that measures the viral load of a player, known as the "cycle threshold" (CT). In essence, the CT value can measure whether a player is still contagious, even if in some cases he would still test positive on a traditional test.
----ESPN (Link Below)
The Biden administration keeps acting like it's the same old virus, but the vaccines we have now appear to be ineffective at stopping the spread, and being vaccinated doesn't stop people from contracting or spreading the virus. We need to stop pretending that the things we've done over the past two years are effective. There may have been some debate about it in the past, while we were waiting for a vaccine, but now that the vaccines are ineffective, why keep pretending?
Remember when Biden said he would be about listening to the science? Well the science is telling Biden that everything he did and said over the past two years is ineffective. The only thing that will make a difference is getting some updated vaccines that are effective against omicron. Vaccination status may help with the rate of hospitalization, but if it has no impact on whether you can contract the virus or transmit it, then there's no point in trying to limit people's interactions based on their vaccination status. What's the point of the 500 million at-home Covid tests? They're about two years too late!
"There are now three ways for a vaccinated [NFL] player to return under the new protocols:
• Two PCR (polymerase chain reaction) tests that are either negative or produce a CT value of 35 or greater.
• One PCR test that is either negative or produces a CT value of 35 or greater, and a negative Mesa test result taken with 24 hours of the PCR test. (Mesa tests usually return results in less than an hour.)
• Two negative Mesa tests.
According to NFL chief medical officer Dr. Allen Sills, previous NFL test analysis has shown that players with CT values at the level of 35 or higher do not transmit COVID-19 and thus would not be contagious".
----ESPN, December 16, 2021
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32883210/nfl-new-covid-19-rules-include-changes-return-play-protocols-return-intensive-restrictions
Progressives can't reimpose lockdowns on a complicated basis like that with 325 million Americans. The NFL can do it because there are millions of dollars lost when they cancel and reschedule games--so the expensive testing regime has a return on cost that makes a lot of sense.
I like how they are now treating a PCR with a CT of 35 or higher as essentially 'proof' of testing negative, whereas until January 2021 these same results would have been considered a positive test by just about any public health official.
Yeah, what changed between 2020 and 2021? I can't put my finger on it. Hmmm.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/weekend-recap-nfl-solves-their-covid
I went over some of this here, and embedded Fauci saying this IN JULY 2020.
Testing should be done to determine who is sick enough to actually infect others, not be turned up so sensitive that it picks up remnants of dead virus.
Nobody cares about the NFL anymore.
Many of us would like sports back. But first the leagues need to accept that Thug Lives Don't Matter except negatively.
I was using them as an example of the kinds of measures that would need to be taken by progressives to make a lockdown reasonable and effective.
Being vaccinated means nothing against omicron.
Now what?
There's your answer: What the NFL is doing.
Progressives can't do that with 325 million people.
being vaccinated means nothing period.
“vaccines we have now appear to be ineffective at stopping the spread”
The delta variant hasn’t gone away just because there is a new omicron variant.
We are told that omicron is responsible for 73% of cases.
I thought Trump was responsible for all of them?!?!
“the vaccines are ineffective”
They are not ineffective. They vastly reduce risk of serious illness and hospitalizairon.
But not stopping the spread
lol you cannot measure those things.
If you say so Ronald.
“everything he did and said over the past two years is ineffective”
Huh? He’s only been the President for one year. And the vaccines have kept countless people from contracting the original and delta variants. As you yourself mention, an update of the vaccines can be created fairly quickly that is tailored to omicron.
He was talking about it before he was elected.
Vaccines will likely not be needed much with omicron. Or from now on with the pandemic. afai can figure, severe omicron will manifest as similar to bronchitis rather than pneumonia/ARDS. That will still pack ER's in January since 200 million+ are going to be exposed to it. So maybe 5 million hospital but those will go to general ward for brief oxygen therapy rather than ICU for serious long-term oxygen and worse.
After Jan - delta will drop fast and there will be widespread (like herd) actual covid immunity derived from getting covid rather than derived from electoral choices for Prez. Pressure on hospitals will drop as fast as delta disappears.
If omicron is as severe as delta, then forget everything above. But with omicron, there is absolutely nothing productive that NPI's can do (simply too contagious) - and nothing the US has learned from the last two years anyway.
So whatever happens will happen and my guess is that omicron is when the VIRUS declares an end to the pandemic rather than the VACCINE declaring an end to it (but a ton of people never have seen that)
Scientists in the U.S. Army are developing a Covid-19 vaccine designed to protect against current and future variants—and even other coronaviruses— and are expected to announce positive early results within weeks, a head researcher told the military news outlet Defense One on Tuesday.
I wonder if these tests are more accurate compared to the instant drug tests cops use, or if they give random results.
Probably a crony purchase. Yeah fascism!
In a June 15, 2020 tweet, President Trump said testing “makes us look bad.” At his super-spreader campaign rally in Tulsa five days later, he said he had asked his “people” to “slow the testing down, please.” At a White House press conference, he told reporters, “When you test, you create cases.” Undoubtedly the dumbest pres. in history.
And then Joe Biden takes over and we have more deaths in 2021 than 2020.
Where's your criticism of his methods, dbruce?
Joe is not responsible for stupid poorly educated people of Trumps who would rather spread the disease than make Joe look good. We are a team, if a couple of players don't want to win that is a big problem, that makes it 3 against 2 and hard to win. 16/17 of the lowest non-vax states were won by Trump. If you have a team of 17 and 16 don't want to play it's going to be hard for that one guy to win especially if he has to inbound the ball.
Scientists in the U.S. Army are developing a Covid-19 vaccine designed to protect against current and future variants—and even other coronaviruses— and are expected to announce positive early results within weeks, a head researcher told the military news outlet Defense One on Tuesday 21, December 2021
Well, damn!
I was sure he was going to announce he had kept his campaign promise to end the virus.
Trump campaign promises? He promised everything because he knew he wouldn't keep any of them, like his entire life of empty promises.
Here:
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/whataboutism-the-fallacy-of-deflection-arguments
Your statement is not just fallacious but also ironic, considering Biden has failed many of his campaign promises.
Don't even THINK about broken promises, I have hundreds of Trump broken promises. Biden promises are ones that have to go back to the 1960s to compare.
Make my day.
"Deactivating or disconnecting ourselves from the dashboards may be the single most powerful action towards ending the pandemic."
“If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”
Dashboards? What dashboards? We don’t need no stinking dashboards!
Isn't it convenient that the major networks stopped running the dashboards this spring but they magically reappeared at the end of August when nothing else was happening in the world that we needed to be concerned with....
Yes.
Was it vaccinated?
That's just it. If it bleeds, it leads and people pay attention but only up to a point. Once it's normalized it goes away. Granted, it isn't like gang violence that is largely kept inside "the hood" but it will become the same thing as a new "hood" is being defined not geographically but by medical choices. It will fade and things will go back to normal. Hopefully the hate shown by many of the vaxxed toward the un-vaxxed will be seen as, if not more, unacceptable as saying 那个 in a crowded classroom.
Sorry, some may more easily recognize it as 那個.
The words "nigger" and "dinger" are that close in Chinese too?
They are the same words the only difference is one is "simplified", favored by Beijing, and the other is "traditional", favored by Taiwan and many in Hong Kong.
The pronunciation will vary considerably with dialect but the characters remain the same. For instance in Cantonese it would sound more like nah go where in Hunanese it would be closer to lay go or lah go, etc. I purposefully left out tones because there's just too many of them when you start crossing dialects.
The pandemic will be over when the administration finds someone to go to war with. We have to move from crisis to crisis smoothly and without any gaps in between.
That war could be a civil war.
It'll be over after the 2022 election...Their last political gasp. But they won't go gently into that good night.
It will end when the administration's political goals are met or it ceases to be politically useful.
Its over now. Covid deaths should be near zero early next year f people get treatment in time with the new Pfizer anti covid drug. If Trump was still driving the federal bureaucracy warp speed we probably would have had it a lot sooner.
Ronald Bailey is still pretending that he has something important to say - notice he is telling readers what he had to say a while back ---- no one cares, Ronny!!!
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