Without Budget Gimmicks, Biden's 'Build Back Better' Will Add $3 Trillion to the Deficit, CBO Says
Enough with the budget gimmicks. It's time for Democrats to admit that Biden's proposal is a long, long way from being fully paid for.

President Joe Biden has repeatedly promised that his "Build Back Better" proposal will deliver "transformative" change for American society by greatly expanding the size of government to help defer the cost of child care, health care, and living in states with high taxes.
As that language would suggest, the president and his supporters in Congress see the massive domestic policy bill as a permanent reshaping of the relationship between individuals and the government. Something isn't "transformative" if it is fleeting.
Yet most of the bill, as currently written, is quite temporary. The extension of an expanded child tax credit—which pays parents up to $3,000 per child and is one of the most expensive elements of the plan—would technically last for just a single year. Other key elements in the package are set to expire after just three or five years. Biden's allies want his proposal to be compared to the New Deal or Great Society, but Social Security didn't vanish three years after it was created (whether it should have is a question we'll leave for another day).
Of course, no one really believes that the expanded child tax credit is going to disappear next year, either. As Reason has been pointing out over and over (and over and over) for the past several months, the expiration dates written into the "Build Back Better" plan are nothing but budget gimmicks meant to make the overall cost of the bill appear smaller than it really is.
On Friday, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) finally confirmed what other analyses of the bill have found: If the provisions of the "Build Back Better" plan are made permanent, trillions of dollars in hidden costs will be added to the federal budget deficit. Strip away the budget gimmicks, and Biden's plan is not fully paid for—not even close.
In its official analysis of the bill, released last month, the CBO found that it would cost about $1.8 trillion and add about $367 billion to the deficit over the next decade. In response to a question submitted by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.) about the budgetary effects if parts of the bill were made permanent, however, the CBO said Friday that the bill would "increase the deficit by $3.0 trillion."
That's in line with what independent assessments of the "Build Back Better" plan have also found.
The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), a nonprofit that advocates for balanced budgets, projects that the plan will cost an estimated $4.8 trillion over 10 years if all provisions are made permanent—and that it would add about $2.8 trillion to the deficit.
A similar analysis conducted by the Wharton Budget Model, a number-crunching project housed at the University of Pennsylvania, found that the package would cost $4.6 trillion if its provisions were made permanent.
"Arbitrary expirations don't make policies cheaper, they just make them shorter—and sooner or later politicians will have to come to terms with how to address these new benefit cliffs," said Maya MacGuineas, president of the CRFB, on Friday in response to the new CBO analysis.
MacGuineas said Biden deserves credit for promising to pay for the cost of extending the temporary policies in the "Build Back Better" plan, but pointed out that those promises can only go so far. "It's impossible to predict the political situation in 2027, 2025, or even the end of 2022 as the chaotic schedule of expirations unfolds. And historic experience doesn't instill confidence—more often than not, extensions of expiring policies are added to the nation's credit card," she said.
Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.), a key holdout among Senate Democrats, has cited the budget gimmicks in the bill as a reason why he is opposed to voting for it. The CBO analysis requested by Graham seems like a fairly obvious attempt to influence Manchin—or, more accurately, to confirm what Manchin has already said he's worried about.
"If we're going to pick all these things we want to do, but one goes for three years, one goes for one year, and maybe one other one might go for the full 10 years," Manchin told reporters earlier this week. "Do they not intend for these programs to last for the full 10 years? Well, if they intend for that to happen, then what's the real cost?"
Now, he has his answer. It'll add $3 trillion to the deficit.
Editor's Note: As of February 29, 2024, commenting privileges on reason.com posts are limited to Reason Plus subscribers. Past commenters are grandfathered in for a temporary period. Subscribe here to preserve your ability to comment. Your Reason Plus subscription also gives you an ad-free version of reason.com, along with full access to the digital edition and archives of Reason magazine. We request that comments be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment and ban commenters for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please
to post comments
I'll take the over.
Debt. Defecit. Tomato. Tomatoe.
Same Leftist Shills in every case trying to destroy the economy ASAP.
Agenda 21 was about destroying the US economy and industrial base bc we used too much of the worlds resources.
Single Mom Makes $89,844/Yr in Her Spare Time on The Computer Without Selling Anything. you can bring from $5000-$8000 of extra income every month. working at home for 4 hours a day, and earning could be even bigger.
The potential with this is endless….. WorkJoin1
Single Mom Makes $89,844/Yr in Her Spare Time on The Computer Without Selling Anything. you can bring from $5000-$8000 of extra income every month working for the NSA and FBI to inform on my neighbors. And the best part: i don't even have to do anything!!! THEY give me all the stuff and i just cut and paste!!!!! And YOU can do this too! Just email FUCK_JOE_BIDEN@karlmarx.com
Home cash earning job to earns more than $500 per day. getting paid weekly more than $3.5k or more simply doing easy work online. no special skills required for this job and regular earning from this are just awesome.start to finish Check The Details====> Click Here<b
Just remember, if the government helps you raise your kids that means your kids are also the government's. And if you're so stupid that you can look at Joe Biden and say "Sure, I'd trust that guy with my kids!", you need to have your head examined.
Doesn’t pass the sniff test.
Biden knows about sniffing...
Fuck Joe Biden
Fuck Joe Biden. The 21st century version of Don't Tread On Me
..." dont grope and sniff me!"
Ewwwwww!
The definition of " gross:"
Joe kisses you goodnight and sticks his tongue down your throat.
"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything. A lot of people voted twice for this Sexual Assaulter.
And if you're so stupid that you can look at Joe Biden and say "Sure, I'd trust that guy with my kids!", you need to have your head examined.
Pretty sure my boys would run him into exhaustion in about 15 min. and be running the place better than his corpse by the end of the first day (complete with better, or at least more entertaining, lies). Now, if I had a well-behaved, prim-and-prissy, New-England-homemaker-style daughter, I might be worried.
After his daughters diary I wouldn't even trust his kids with him.
They might be safer with Buttplug. Which is pretty scary.
then24 and national file are extreme right Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy websites based on the promotion of unproven/debunked claims and a Strong Pseudoscience purveyor based on using junk science to support claims. Failed Fact Checks Was Nancy Pelosi’s son an executive for a Ukrainian gas company? – FALSE
Says the sons of Nancy Pelosi, Mitt Romney, and John Kerry are all on the boards of “energy companies doing business in Ukraine.” – FALSE
Is the United Nations office in New York recruiting paramilitary troops for disarmament and reintegration of U.S. civilians? – FALSE
A yearbook photo shows Mark Kelly dressed as Adolf Hitler. – False
CDC Inflated COVID Numbers and violated federal Law. – False
“Pfizer [COVID-19] vaccine confirmed to cause neurodegenerative diseases”; “mRNA vaccines […] can integrate into the human genome” – Inaccurate
The Australian government seized and forcibly vaccinated 24,000 students. – False These guys are so crazy they make QAnon look like a dictionary.
Nurse! Nuuuurse! He's off his meds again!
The Stable Genius said he would sue the 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. He can't because he has trouble with telling the truth on the stand and everywhere else.
Bear in mind, that is the goal of the left. They have this weird view that children should be raised by a community, not parents
See Hillary Clinton's book "It Takes a Village" or BLM's stated goal of getting rid of the nuclear family
It Takes A Village wss written by a Village Idiot.
That gas bags on TV still pissing ( and moaning) about losing.
“It takes a gulag.”
Melissa Harris Perry says “all your kids are belong to us”.
Funny, you must have read a different book, mine talked about parents raising with help from the community. If I was you I would ask for your money, back cuz you got scammed.
then24 and national file are extreme right Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy websites based on the promotion of unproven/debunked claims and a Strong Pseudoscience purveyor based on using junk science to support claims. Failed Fact Checks Was Nancy Pelosi’s son an executive for a Ukrainian gas company? – FALSE
Says the sons of Nancy Pelosi, Mitt Romney, and John Kerry are all on the boards of “energy companies doing business in Ukraine.” – FALSE
Is the United Nations office in New York recruiting paramilitary troops for disarmament and reintegration of U.S. civilians? – FALSE
A yearbook photo shows Mark Kelly dressed as Adolf Hitler. – False
CDC Inflated COVID Numbers and violated federal Law. – False
“Pfizer [COVID-19] vaccine confirmed to cause neurodegenerative diseases”; “mRNA vaccines […] can integrate into the human genome” – Inaccurate
The Australian government seized and forcibly vaccinated 24,000 students. – False These guys are so crazy they make QAnon look like a dictionary.
What is $3T amongst friends?
How many friends do you have?
Because if it's 300 million friends, you each owe 10 grand.
and that's just for this year.
It's time for Democrats to admit that Biden's proposal is a long, long way from being fully paid for.
Alan Blinder says otherwise, and he teaches at Princeton. Princeton!
This bill costs less over ten years than Bo & Luke's spittin' tobaccy habit. Deal with it, peanuts.
Compared to Trumps 2 $TRILLION waste of money to the super rich who used it to buy their own stock and/or give themselves bonuses while literally not creating one job. Biden is guaranteed to create jobs, maybe millions.
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/584190-irs-data-prove-trump-tax-cuts-benefited-middle-working-class-americans-most
Here are 12 tax deductions that disappeared in 2018 that DIDN'T benefit the middle class....
The standard $6,350 deduction.
Personal exemptions.
Unlimited state and local tax deductions.
A $1 million mortgage interest deduction.
An unrestricted deduction for home equity loan interest.
Deductions for unreimbursed employee expenses.
Miscellaneous itemized deductions.
A deduction for moving expenses.
Unrestricted casualty loss deduction.
Alimony deduction.
Deductions for certain school donations.
Charitable donation deductions for some taxpayers.
We have Mike and stroodle on this site. I can't tell if youre parody or dumb.
See below; giving them both a run for the bottom!
We have lost Sevo, he couldn't handle the truth.
"We have lost Sevo, he couldn't handle the truth."
If you ever posted any and it gave me problems, you might make that claim.
But first you have to post some. As a lying pile of lefty shit, you've yet to post anything other than bullshit.
Politifact has never failed me once. Neither has Media Bias Fact Check, Fact Check.Org, Lead Stories, Science Feedback, AP Fact Check, AFP Fact Check, Reuters, Full Fact, Snopes, Check Your Fact, WP Fact Checker and Poynter Institute. Rolling Stone is not a fact checker but if they do a story about something you can bet your life on it. See
EXCLUSIVE: Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in ...
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/exclusive-jan-6-organizers-met-congress-white-house-12452
Ah, the root of the problem. You follow propoganda sites.
I notice you have not sited what you follow. Make my day by enlightening me of what you use.
No, no, no - I don't have to cite sites to call you on claiming Rolling Stone (if they do a story you better check it) and POLITIFACT!!!1!! as valid sources.
I am talking about you being a deranged little minion here seeking gospel-style facts approved by your betters for consumption. And you get so upset about it too, which is really funny, kiddo.
I guess I can add salted nuts to my list of non-responders who can't "handle the truth". Just another one who doesn't like fact checker sources but go ahead calling people names.....hilarious.
I notice
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die.
Do you guys know that those fact check sites are political hatchet jobs funded by partisan groups? I mean, I thought everybody knew that, but it's hard to tell when there's so many parodies running around.
Lol. Ok, so parody. Needs work, tho.
Eliminating Unlimited state and local tax deductions.
This impacted the richest of the rich in the bluest of the blue states.
It really did MAGA!!
I noticed you are one of the poorly educated that Trump loves, you show your ignorance of simple math. You really believe that Billionaires really cared about losing any of the 12 small deductions when the tax cut for them amounted to $100s of thousands? I advise some 5th grade night classes.
"I noticed you are one of the poorly educated that Trump loves,.."
And I noticed that you're a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit. Fuck off and die.
"...You really believe that Billionaires really cared about losing any of the 12 small deductions when the tax cut for them amounted to $100s of thousands?..."
And you're accusing someone else of being poorly educated when you shovel a pile of bullshit like that?
Keep it up; at least you're amusingly stupid!
No, My point was the 12 deductions that were removed had less than 1/1,000 of an effect on billionaires. They got tax cuts amounting to $millions and they couldn't care less about any or all of the 12 deductions lost.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Then why did they bitch and moan so loudly that the Democrats reversed it? Shouldn't they be happy to pay their fare -- I mean fair -- share?
He’s fr better educated than you, and much more intelligent. Why do drooling Marxist idiots, such as yourself, always project a delusion of superior intelligence?
You’re clearly a very stupid, weak minded person.
I was referring to my previous post about the tax cuts that the rich got compared to the middle class who got small cuts minus the 12 deductions they lost. You should checkout this hire Wikipedia editor article.
Trump on Fox News bragging about a Balanced budget in 5 years, maybe less
TRUMP: There are so many things that we can cut ... and we can balance the budget very quickly. HANNITY: You think in five years? TRUMP: I think over a five-year period. And I don't know, maybe I could even surprise you.
[Fox News - Hannity, 1/21/16] Trump tricked millions into voting for him and even he would have to admit he didn't have a clue.
"Here are 12 tax deductions that disappeared in 2018 that DIDN'T benefit the middle class...."
Followed by a list of deductions taken by most people in the middle income range!
This is one STUPID sombitch!
I was referring to my previous post about the tax cuts that the rich got compared to the middle class who got small cuts minus the 12 deductions they lost.
So you are too stupid to explain your point? Why is that not surprising?
Perhaps because TDS-addled lying piles of lefty shit are that stupid.
Fuck off and die. Slowly and painfully as you deserve.
"The standard $6,350 deduction"
Probably worth pointing out that it was replaced by a $12,000 deduction. Not only did this reduce the effective tax rate of most middle class filers, it also eliminated the need for any itemized deductions, which reduced the cost of tax compliance.
pssst. Don't tell our newest lefty ignoramus.
Oh, hell - go ahead. He's entirely too stupid to understand.
Nearly 83 percent of the law’s benefit went to the top 1 percent and not 1 job was created from it. The small amount the middle class gained was mostly spent, which actually gained jobs.
"Nearly 83 percent of the law's benefit went to the top 1 percent"
What does this even mean? And why should I care if rich folks benefited? Doesn't seem to be at my expense.
"Not 1 job was created"
Seems rather spurious. What are you basing this on? Anyway, with tax policy, I'm much more worried about the propensity for job destruction. If the there was no net affect on jobs, then I'd be ok with it.
"...What are you basing this on?..."
Pulled out of ass...
POLITIFACT
And what did they base it on
Further, you'll notice there is no link.
We are left to assume the veracity of the *claims* of someone who has proven themself to be a lying pile of lefty shit that the (unlinked) cite supports such.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/mar/05/sherrod-brown/do-70-benefits-trumps-tax-law-benefit-wealthiest-1/ Get a 3rd grader to read it to you.
PolitiFact, "Nevada TV ad cherry-picks tax cut benefits to top 1%," July 10, 2018
PolitiFact Texas, "Lloyd Doggett says 80 percent of Republican-sought tax cuts flow to wealthiest 1 percent," Oct. 20, 2017
Email, U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown staff member Matthew Keyes, March 1, 2019
Vox, "The Republican tax bill got worse: now the top 1% gets 83% of the gains," Dec. 18, 2017
Washington Post Fact Checker, "Does the Trump tax cut give 83 percent of the benefits to the top 1 percent?" Nov. 14, 2018
FactCheck.org, "Democrats’ Misleading Tax Line," Jan. 26, 2018
Interview, Tax Policy Center senior research associate Joseph Rosenberg, March 4, 2019
Email, James Hines Jr., University of Michigan professor of economics, March 2, 2019
Joint Committee on Taxation, "Distributional Effects Of The Conference Agreement For H.R.1, The ‘Tax Cuts And Jobs Act,’" (Page 6) Dec. 18, 2017
Interview, Adam Michel, Heritage Foundation tax policy and federal budget analyst, March 4, 2019
I notice
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die.
Asshole.
He’s basing it statements made by a bunch of leftists who hate Trump. Usual progtard bullshit being spewed by a progtard.
It means the tax cut went to the richest 1%, who by definition don't need it. You should care because it could have been given to the other 99% who would have spent most of it, which is how economies work...people buy stuff and other people have to work to make the stuff. The 1% only use it to buy their own stock and/or give themselves a bonus, which neither create jobs, which you should be OK with.
But as I just went over, the tax cuts did not, in fact, only go to the top 1% of earners. The standard deduction was nearly doubled, which reduced my tax burden and the vast majority of other middle class filers. (Something that your information source must have conveniently omitted.)
Now, if you're saying I should be worried about societal economic inefficiencies, I'm just not that concerned about rich people hoarding their tax savings in giant Scrooge McDuck swimming pools. What is concerning, is the ever-increasing government spending.
"...(Something that your information source must have conveniently omitted.)..."
Politifact claimed; reason to doubt veracity; this is looking like some adolescent 'socialist', hoping to 'save the world'.
Fact check....tax cuts of 83% is not equal to 100% as you imply. The 12 deductions that could go to middle class familys could wipe out easily their increase in standard deduction. Fun Fact: Gov't spending....Balanced budget in 5 years, maybe less
TRUMP: There are so many things that we can cut ... and we can balance the budget very quickly. HANNITY: You think in five years? TRUMP: I think over a five-year period. And I don't know, maybe I could even surprise you.
[Fox News - Hannity, 1/21/16]
Fuck off and die, asshole.
If Marxist ffgots like you would just slit your own throats, we could balance the budget in a short number of years. YOU are the problem.
If you cared about America, you would kill yourself.
"It means the tax cut went to the richest 1%, who by definition don't need it."
Fuck you with a running rusty chainsaw, you slimy pile of shit. As such, your opinion as to whether someone 'needs' something proves once again that you deserve to deserve to die a painful death.
"You should care because it could have been given to the other 99% who would have spent most of it, which is how economies work..."
As a pathetic piece of lying lefty shit, you should avoid your keyboard; using it proves to those of us who do know how economies work what a complete ignoramus you are.
"...people buy stuff and other people have to work to make the stuff. The 1% only use it to buy their own stock and/or give themselves a bonus, which neither create jobs, which you should be OK with."
I'm perfectly OK with noting that you are among the most ignorant TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit to post here.
I was shocked that you would resort to name calling instead of using facts but you have the right to lose any debate the way you want. You and Trump suffer from "the Dunning-Kruger effect", which is the phenomenon which describes how people with low ability are too incompetent to recognize their own incompetence. Bankrupting 6 casinos where every game has an over-all guaranteed winning edge is a perfect example. US Poison Control Centers across the nation had a 40% hike in cleaning-chemical (Clorox) exposure cases. When asked about this Trump said "I can't imagine". Trump received dozens of daily briefs about the pandemic in Jan and Feb and still said on Feb 27 "It's like a miracle, it will disappear". He also got many updates and still said "the virus snuck up on us" and calling it a "very unforeseen thing".
Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.
Sevo and Trump have drank too many Diet (Dementia) Cokes and their brains are almost eaten all away. Meanwhile WSJ cites jobless claims lowest in 52 years. US ranks 13th in infrastructure in he world...BBB will replace ALL lead pipes. Economy growing faster than in 60 years (1961).
Mostly you get called names because you're an idiot who has been slapped in the face, repeatedly, in this thread with facts that are inconvenient yo your narrative. Your response is to blithely carry on with your preferred reality like a good little progshit.
As you are insane and incapable of being reasoned with, the appropriate response is to throw stones until you go away.
So, fuck off you TDS addled shit.
You appear to get all your information from Media Matters talking
points. This is typical of a rabid Marxist piece of shit, such as yourself.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
"Mostly you get called names because you're an idiot who has been slapped in the face, repeatedly, in this thread with facts that are inconvenient yo your narrative. Your response is to blithely carry on with your preferred reality like a good little progshit."
Guessing you're responding to our newest (now muted) steaming pile of lefty shit.
Yes, s/he's being called names as a result of the demonstrated stupidity, but further because the steaming pile of lefty shit *IS* a steaming plie of left shit and an asshole besides.
Pointing out reality at certain times is 'calling names'.
“Doesn’t seem to be at my expense.”
Lol. You clearly do not understand how starting on the wrong side of possession works. Everything that someone wealthier than you doesn’t have taken from them is at your expense.
If you were smarter you’d be pissed. Like a typical prog.
"Nearly 83 percent of the law’s benefit went to the top 1 percent and not 1 job was created from it. The small amount the middle class gained was mostly spent, which actually gained jobs."
Bullshit claims like this merely show what a fucking ignoramus you are.
Assuming the numbers you pulled out of your ass are anywhere close to reality, do you think those benefits were concerted to gold coins and tossed in the pool for the evening swim?
Hint: Wealthy people attempt to increase their wealth, and the way to do that is to invest in things, like, perhaps, new companies, which need new employees.
Or maybe they go out for dinner and pay the servers. Buy a new home? Gee, did that get built by unicorns.
Again, you are a fucking TDS-addled lying pile of shit pitching the politics of envy, in all likelihood a loser, jealous of those who have made something of their lives.
Please, make the world a better place; fuck off and die.
POLITIFACT
So we can ignore them, as should you.
Pulling them out of your ass will give you more accurate numbers.
Ya know, I missed your %PM pile of lies;
"Compared to Trumps 2 $TRILLION waste of money to the super rich who used it to buy their own stock and/or give themselves bonuses while literally not creating one job."
Cites, detailed, specific, for all four of those claims, or STFU
You.
Are.
Full.
"Biden is guaranteed to create jobs, maybe millions."
You'd be a real laugh riot if you weren't such a fucking ignoramus. Please tell us you don't vote. Or, if you do, save your family from embarrassment; fuck off and die.
Of.
Shit.
Sorry for the fragment; perhaps Reason will offer a preview function one day:
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
See Bill Clinton....he taxed the rich, cut taxes for the middle class, millions of jobs created and he had years of balanced budgets and literally lowered the national debt. Fun fact...Biden has already surpassed Trump in jobs created, 6 million jobs more than Trump.
See dbruce...pulling numbers out of his ass, spouting bullshit; totally removed from reality.
Biden's effect on the economy is almost as beneficial as his colossal fuck-up getting out of Afghanistan, and it takes a truly brain-damaged pile of lefty shit to fantasize otherwise.
Fuck off and die.
BTW, you may see my replies to your posts as a conscious attempt to insult you, and of course that's true. But your idiotic posts are insulting to anyone of even average intelligence, so responding to insults with insults is to be expected. Further, it is quite clear that you (as a fucking lefty ignoramus) find actual "facts" or "reality" to be insulting; they contradict your lefty fantasies. As an example, the USSR collapsed of its own internal contradictions and I'm sure this is a mystery to you.
Finally, let's make this clear:
"The 5 Basic Laws of Human Stupidity"
[...]
"First Basic Law
Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation...."
https://medium.com/mind-cafe/the-5-basic-laws-of-human-stupidity-513de9dd0bd5
Yes, you are among the STUPID. You might choose not to be STUPID, but that is your choice and the effort to do so is yours alone.
One hint: Perhaps the first lesson in escaping STUPID is to accept that no one owes you a damn thing, asshole.
This is just a notice that Sevo was outmatched and couldn't respond to my Bill Clinton post (fact) and then he changed the subject (fact), made up stuff about me (fact) and used profanity while not giving any sources for his insults (fact).
I notice
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die.
Steaming pile of lefty shit.
This HAS to be a parody account!
POLITIFACT¡!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope.
Parody accounts pretty much come in two flavors:
1) OBL, who is a parody of the idiocy of turd, for example.
2) Trump Is My Poohbah, who is a parody of some imagined strawman.
Our newest asshole is neither; the claims are claims of (lacking) cites to support adolescent whining.
Your niece, who is thrilled to get a BLM T-shirt for Christmas; that's what we have here.
Debate losers like Sevo...1) If I can't win I'll call him names and/or insult. 2) Change subject (niece) ? 3) Poohbah listed fact checkers. 4) Never list fact sources
I notice
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die.
Lying pile of lefty shit.
Hint: EVERYONE tries to increase their wealth. Some people are more proficient in that endeavor than others.
Of course, it’s a lot easier if we can scrape off leftists, such as yourself.
BTW...I don't try to increase my wealth....there goes your EVERYONE theory.
You're kidding with this, right? Are you being purposefully ignorant?
Yes...I just joined QAnon because I want to see the Kennedys again.
Now you move on to QAnon? Is it brain damage, is that your problem?
Yes, @dbruce, Trump eliminated a lot of tax deductions for the wealthy. QED
Yep, the democrats shoved a lot of crap into that bill before it could pass.
They took a lot out too...it's called compromise. Big word for the poor educated, as Trump calls them.
At least 87,000 new high-paying jobs, with great benefits, at the IRS, that won't cost the taxpayers a dime, because they increase compliance with existing tax laws!
Nope, federal tax revenues increased every year:
https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762
Fiscal Year Revenue
FY 2021 $3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020 $3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019 $3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018 $3.33 trillion
FY 2017 $3.32 trillion
FY 2016 $3.27 trillion
FY 2015 $3.25 trillion
How so with mass unemployment?
Hourly workers don’t really contribute much to the tax revenue total.
Because contrary to popular belief, rich people do pay taxes and they made a shit ton of money last year?
Because the bottom 50% effectively pay little in taxes. Our tax system is the most progressive in the world.
Bottom 51% (?) made no positive contribution at all last year.
https://www.balancedpolitics.org/editorials/100_taxes_you_pay.htm
While those fees and taxes are annoying and a sign of progressive overregulation, they have next to no impact on the federal budget.
You probably remember what Trump bragged about on Fox News on Jan 16, 2016....Balanced budget in 5 years, maybe less
TRUMP: There are so many things that we can cut ... and we can balance the budget very quickly. HANNITY: You think in five years? TRUMP: I think over a five-year period. And I don't know, maybe I could even surprise you.
[Fox News - Hannity, 1/21/16]
It's funny how you change the subject when you get shown to be wrong.
It's funny how you don't state how I was wrong.
Jobless claims lowest since 1969. Economy growing fastest since 1961. Biden 5 million jobs created compared to a negative -3,003,000 from Trump, worst in decades. Trump has drank too many Diet (Dementia) Cokes and his brain has almost eaten all away. Meanwhile WSJ cites jobless claims lowest in 52 years. US ranks 13th in infrastructure in he world...BBB will replace ALL lead pipes. Economy growing faster than in 60 years (1961).
Needs some work if you’re going to reach true OBL levels.
Yelling POLITFACT twice was pretty good though.
#PolitfactIsMyBibleSoYouShutUp
Politifact is literally a million times more factual than a stone age bible after many translations. Two posters wanted my source and I obliged. A lot of poorly educated have learned they don't know how to argue with facts.
Politidaxt is proven to be biased lying garbage. Try again Marxist faggot.
‘Politifact’
According to you there must be 100s of examples, can you name JUST one?
dbruce.
Thanks?
Politifact Left-Center Biased based on fact checks that tend to be more favorable for the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting and a credible fact-checker that is not without bias. Failed Fact Checks
None in the Last 5 years. They are certified fact-checker. I'll await a better choice from you but I will not hold my breath.
Why won't this talking point just die already?
https://www.cato.org/blog/who-gained-tax-cuts
"Yet most of the bill, as currently written, is quite temporary."
Just like the temporary phone tax to pay for the Vietnam "conflict"?
Or two weeks to flatten the curve.
Or the tax on long distance calls put in place to fund the Spanish American war.
Wasn't that passed way back when ELO was a thing?
Oh, oh, telephone
linetax, give me some timeI'm living in twilight
Oh, oh, telephone
linetax, give me some timeI'm living in twilight
Okay, so no one's answering
Well, can't you just let it ring a little longer, longer, longer
Oh, I'll just sit tight
In shadows of the night
Let it ring forevermore, oh-woh
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
"Just like the temporary phone tax to pay for the Vietnam "conflict"?"
Or the temporary income tax to pay for the Civil War.
Oct 27, 2020 ... 'I can be more presidential than any other president since Lincoln,' claims Trump. Rebuild infrastructure "way below cost"
Rebuild the country’s infrastructure. Nobody can do that like me. Believe me. It will be done on time, on budget, way below cost, way below what anyone ever thought.
[New York, NY, 6/16/15]
A little barking Marxist bitch like you should really consider suicide.
It is just factual posts by Trump on 6/6/15, the day after he announced and one 5 years later that proved his incompetence.
You’re a drooling moron. Trump was a decent president. Almost across the board. We now have someone in office who is a bigger idiot than you. Who has abjectly failed across the board.
https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/politifact-wisconsin/politifact-wisconsin-did-president-biden-create-more-jobs-in-first-7-months-than-any-other-in-history Trump lost 3,003,000 jobs and only President in history to never reach an average of polls in his whole term. Every survey of Historians put him at the bottom including the Republicans.
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/trump-ranked-as-worst-u-s-president-according-to-political-scientist-survey
Or rent control in NYC as a temporary wartime measure (you know who else we really stuck it to with that one?)
It take 100 years to get rid of those.
About the only good thing about the skyrocketing inflation is I believe it has probably convinced Manchin that there's simply no way in hell he can vote for this ginormous turd.
The inflation lie again?
There is none. The Leftist mefia lied about ot in 2012 when it was at a historic low of 0.8%
You tag teaming with stroodle?
Nope.
Seems he read some book which he interpreted to claim that if there isn't an increase in "real" money, there can't be inflation, and he defines "real" money as physical dollars.
Guy's not real bright; Camel smokes were real money in post war Europe, as is that amount your bank carries as digital records.
Charge Mexico for imports...Trump......
Because I'll cut off all -- I'll start charging for their product coming into this country. Mexico is living off the United States.
[Fox News, 6/16/15]
Bullshitters get a short time to learn.
After that, it's obvious that:
You.
Are .
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Better he should kill himself. Better for the world.
And it would make his family proud and his dog happy!
FBI...Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a POLITICAL, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature. I was wondering where your MAKE DEMOCRATS EXTINCT falls into?
You should consider their suggestions seriously. It may be the right answer for you.
They are poor readers, my post was a quote from Trump about charging Mexico for their Imports to us, he was going to cut it off, like all of his other lies it was backed up with hot air. He was also going to charge Mexico for the Wall. When they refused he literally asked them to SAY they would (LIE) pay, so he could claim Mexico was paying, SAD.
Sarcasm or stupidity? I can’t tell.
Plenty of Democrats would be happy to raise the taxes necessary to offset the so-called costs. If the sum total of your rhetoric on this issue is that Democrats, under no circumstances, should be permitted to enact their stated agenda, well that's a problem of good faith, isn't it?
Federal debt is equivalent to a private-sector surplus. When you scaremonger about deficits and debt, you're bitching about too much money being in private hands. That's all. It's a silly thing to complain about.
Wake me when the United States starts producing beyond its physical economic capacity. We've certainly been squandering cash on billionaire's savings accounts for long enough, so let's take this baby out for an actual spin and see how many crumbling bridges we can repair and children we can educate before we run out of that capacity.
Federal debt is equivalent to a private-sector surplus.
As I'm sure you learned in economics 101, when you print money the overall value of that money decreases. This effect is called "inflation."
Ah, so you want taxes to go up?
Federal government spend less. A lot less.
BUT THEN THERE WILL BE BODIES LINING THE STREETS! THE BUDGET IS ALREADY TO THE BONE!!
just so its Prog Lefty bodies...
Meh.
Well Tony, if they’re willing to raise taxes enough to see that the $3 trillion hole is filled, why don’t they just do it then instead of resorting to gimmicks (aka “lying”)?
They control the government. Why won’t they raise the taxes?
The BBB program does raise taxes to offset expenses.
No it doesn't.
The House-passed bill has a 5% surtax on incomes of at least $10 million a year plus an extra 3% those higher than $25 million.
So you should be pleased about all the deficit mitigation, until the other side of your face bitches about hiking taxes.
Better if they spend less.
That won’t even make a dent in the spending they’re doing.
Just fucking own that you’re going to have to take a ton of money from the middle class to even get close to paying for your pipe dreams. At least that would be honest.
But the point of this article is that they aren’t raising taxes nearly enough, thus the $3T hole. If they want to spend that money, why don’t they raise taxes enough to close the gap?
Hey, steaming pile of lefty shit! We got what YOU deserve!
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Trump and his numerous infrastructure week promises broken....Will keep promises, won't be voted in with fanfare and then do nothing
Promises, promises, all talk, no action. All talk, no action politicians. They talk, talk, talk, talk. You vote them in with great fanfare, and then they do nothing. With Trump, that's not going to happen.
[Dimondale, MI, 8/19/16] Four years.....diddly squat !!
TDS victim.
Go jump in front of a bus.
Sorry, you can't handle the truth. It would be hard to do because Trump is literally throwing his family and administration under the bus trying to blame everyone but himself. If they televise Trump being hauled off to jail it would be the highest rated show in history and likely be turned into a World Wide National Holiday.
You don't speak the truth dbruce, you are just a puppet spouting ridiculous propaganda you would RATHER believe than face reality. The name Politifact is misleading in itself, a half-truth really. All politics zero fact.
Then why the 3 trillion gap?
It's all just numbers on an electronic ledger, and wildly estimated at that. It means nothing.
3 trillion here, 3 trillion there, pretty soon your grandkids owe some serious coin.
Best to wait until they can provide an actual cost.
Tony: “math is hard!”
It's all just numbers on an electronic ledger, and wildly estimated at that. It means nothing.
Awesome. No need for taxes then.
Yes. Democrats are always willing to take what others gain.
Republicans are willing to take the power, prestige, and freedom Democrats won in the 20th century and turn it into a giant pile of shit, but who's counting?
?Free?/stolen shit =/= freedom; it = criminal behavior.
but who's counting?
It's also amazing how you equate the last Republican majority of De-Regulation, Tax Cuts, etc, etc to 'Power and Prestige"... It's like you've become a mindless troll. Saying the dumbest shit you can think of just for some negative attention.
You misspelled fascism Tony.
I'm guessing, based on the past 50 years of experience, that we'll never run out of crumbling infrastructure.
esp. when its built pre- crumbling.
" 125,000 parts all made by the lowest bidder"
Apollo 13 movie IIRC
There is no way to tax your way to paying for all of this.
As usual, you are confusing money with wealth. The problem isn’t the deficit or the debt, the problem is the government spending itself. The $3T the federal government spends on useless garbage is $3T of wasted economic activity and makes Americans commensurately poorer. If you pay for it with taxes, government spending crowds out even more private economic activity.
See Bill Clinton to learn about balanced budgets and surpluses and why trickle down theory just results in recessions, Reagan had 3.
“Wake me when the United States starts producing beyond its physical economic capacity”
Why do you want everyone to work?
We’ll know when we’re at capacity because they’ll be inflation. Thank goodness we’re not there yet.
I’d solve all your social problems, but your government hasn’t hit my price point yet. Keep trying.
“….the so-called costs”
Lol. Really, dude? Wow. What is wrong with you?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/10/ny-gov-kathy-hochul-imposes-statewide-mask-mandate-amid-spread-of-omicron-covid-variant.html
Doing the same things again expecting a different result is what??
Maximum Stupidity.
Trump started it all with his denial of any virus. It will go away when it warms up. There is 15 cases and it will be 0 by tomorrow. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-pandemic-dishonesty/index.html 654 stupid statements by Trump. Trumps Maximum Stupidity wouldn't let him admit he had no clue. thousands died directly as a result.
But, but $3T is only ANOTHER $23K bill for each working citizen.
Get back to work SLAVES; Your owner Biden/Nazi's needs more weather control, propaganda articles and to monopolize day-care!
So when do you propose you're supposed to pay for this alleged bill?
Republicans are dogmatic about never raising taxes, so they're not going to make you pay for it.
Is there some higher authority than Congress that will force you to pay taxes to offset this supposed bill?
How bout we don’t pass this bill?
Stab in the dark. Your program for dealing with climate change is "give more money to zillionaires and don't think about it," correct?
Mine would be, "Eat shit, Democratic-voting ski resorts."
You’re not carbon neutral. When you are, I’ll believe you actually care about climate change.
Carbon negative should be the new goal. Go back to caves and seal the entrance so no gas escapes.
My plan for dealing with climate change is to not.
Good grief you're dumb Tony. Thinking with your *ss renders everything you believe *ss-backwards.
Armed robbery of its citizens and "giving more money to zillionaires" who do nothing for society but stage yet more clown-shows and propaganda is 100% a Biden and Nazi-Politician game.
The rest of us just trade 10% of our *earned* money for needed goods while your *ss-backwards thinking STEALS the other 90% and funnels it into useless idiots sucking off the stolen labor public pool.
If the payment is made; the bill exists. Playing ignorant to such a simple concept is just more of you thinking out your *ss.
Have to admit muting that troll is the best use of the mute button yet.
Like turd, he gets proven wrong and simply repeats the same lie two minutes later. Would you associate with a stupid/dishonest piece of shit like that in meat-space?
Fuck him with a rusty, running chain saw.
The climate has always been changing idiot.
Not by as much as it has been since the Industrial Revolution moron.
Nope. Now fuck off with your Marxism.
"Not by as much as it has been since the Industrial Revolution moron."
Which is irrelevant, asshole.
This will still give money to zillionaires, they’re just your preferred ones.
Oh, who am I kidding, it’s been quite obvious for a while that ALL zillionaires are the true base of the Democratic Party.
This bill has no impact on climate change, so try again.
This bill will in no way deal with ‘climate change’. According to the bullshit climate models that are part of your Marxist religion, the only way to do anything to cut emissions involves China and India cutting their output.
That will definitely not happen with the ChiCom puppet Biden in the White House.
This. The whole thing is a giant turd.
at least they dont have to pass it to see whats in it.
We know were getting screwed up the '6' ahead of time!
So when do you propose you're supposed to pay for this alleged bill?
How about fucking never.
have they EVER paid for any spending?
See Bill Clinton...balanced budgets and some extra to pay down national debt.
You don't speak the truth dbruce, you are just a puppet spouting ridiculous propaganda you would RATHER believe than face reality. The name Politifact is misleading in itself, a half-truth really. All politics zero fact. Zero fact....that's going to be quite a bind you got yourself into proving. I am betting you can't do it.
Soooo…. “Don’t worry, be happy cuz you won’t have to pay for it”, is your answer?
Fuck, why have limits at all, tony? Why not 100 trillion? We could change the weather and eliminate poverty! Nobody has to pay!
Haha. Wow.
You lose almost every rational reader as soon as you use the word Nazi. Just sayin'...
When the boot fits……
One holdout....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEoBrr9gRA
Louis Renault, please call your office.
Isn't it great that Reason web site allows an advertiser to interrupt your post in mid sentence?
Fuck you Welsh with a rusty chain saw, go look for a job.
Using Brave on my phone, never seen a single ad on the site.
Reason writers are guilty of economic illiteracy, scientific illiteracy, and shilling for progressives and billionaires, and that’s what you complain about?
Gee, Uncle Joe told us it would be free.
Like Obama phones.
Oh, and all those economists that supposedly said that the inflationary spiral was "transitory?" Yeah, they were wrong, too. Or, more likely, lying.
Politicians. Were their mouths moving? If yes, it was a lie.
there is no inflation
Inflation is an increase in money supply.
It is NOT PRICE INCREASES.
The same Liarsin the Media that told you there was inflation in 2012 are lying to you now.
And youre too stupid to know better.
dave, you really ought to quit making a public ass of yourself. Suffice to say,
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
I am really growing curious where America's tipping point is. With all this tribal insanity and the totalitarian regime in office intent on ramming its agenda through against all advice and adversity, how many luxuries does the average family lose before it goes nuclear?
Get to watch it every day on the roads; people drive with suicidal rage now. Crime and violence are up almost everywhere, but particularly in blue bail and justice reform states. Help wanted signs everywhere, empty grocery shelves and nominal leaders who have neither a clue nor empathy for the issue.
So, how long until social niceties drop entirely? I'm thinking a couple months after midterms if nothing changes dramatically.
Usually the tipping point is when a large percentage of the country goes hungry. Until then, totalitarianism works because people still think they have something to lose. We still have a long ways to go until then.
That's the standard line, but I feel like Americans are much less tolerant of loss of luxuries to ever reach the prodding of necessities.
" for 100 bonus points, spell " Maslov."
Millenial : " I need my phone."
Ironically, the name of the person you are referring to is spelled "Maslow".
And the implication of your sarcasm seems to be that progressives can get away with wrecking this country a lot more before essential needs cause Americans to rebel and you think that's OK.
3 days without electricty ought to do it.
A week with empty grocery store shelves.
Cut off WI- FI to Millenials. Ive done it with hilarious results. Screaming, slamming doors and throwing things ensues.
NOT THE WIFI!
Sends them strait over the edge. Had a couple ahole millenials causing problems. Till they found out their problem causing correlated to losing Wi Fi. Problem solved!
PS its ' over' when THIS happens:
https://dnyuz.com/2021/12/11/can-parties-help-us-heal/
What do they care? They’ll just print more money. MMT, baby!
Besides, if the spending were balanced by taxes, it would be even worse. Money printing is actually preferable to higher taxes.
The Money Printing Lie goes aling with the Inflation lie.
.Neither is happening.
Instead if soreading Kenyesian Myths, try doing something intelligent. Look up the M values ( money supply) and see they are NOT PRINTING TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
The M2 money supply has increased from about $15 trillion to $21 trillion since late 2019, a 40% increase. That's massive.
And, no, I'm not a Keynesian nor do I advocate MMT. What I am saying is that government spending itself is the problem, since it crowds out private spending. And if you finance government spending through income and capital gains taxes, you make things even worse since you make it even harder for private actors to compete for scarce resources against government. So, I prefer Biden pay for his multi-trillion dollar boondoggles through money printing rather than through taxes, because the former is relatively speaking less harmful than the latter.
Clear enough, or do you need a more detailed explanation?
Yeah I dunno what this guy is smoking. A 40% increase is huge. 6 trillion is 'trillions'.
dave, you need to STFU about inflation. Seriously.
You don't know what you're posting about.
"President Joe Biden has repeatedly promised that his "Build Back Better" proposal will deliver "transformative" change for American society "
Hitler promised transformation too.
Mao.
Stalin.
Castro.
Obama. He called it Change. While he and Biden murdered women and children with drones.
It transformed them into greasy spots along the road.
Psychopaths do those kinds of things.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/politics/donald-trump-infrastructure-week/index.html Trump: Work with Congress to introduce for passage in the first 100 days the American Energy and Infrastructure Act to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure spending
Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my administration. ... The American Energy and Infrastructure Act, leverages public/private partnerships and private investment through tax incentives to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over the next ten years.
[Gettysburg, PA, 10/22/16] OOOPS
And what's Trump's excuse for failing to actually do it?
This is Biden.
Take your Ritalin and try to focus.
Like all his excuses....everybodys fault but his. He had majorities in both Houses. He bankrupted 6 casinos but it wasn't his fault. He cheated on all 3 of his wives but it wasn't his fault. He has never apologized ever since he has never done anything to apologize for.
Why would Trump have to apologize to the American people for what he did in his private life? What the f*ck do I care whether he cheated on his wives?
Biden is a sleazy, incompetent president who has wrecked hundreds of thousands of lives, is bankrupting the nation, and is proudly and openly destroying the principles and culture that this country was founded on. That is the key issue.
Trump Unindicted Co-Conspirator literally wrote hush money checks at the White House desk to his enforcer Cohen to pay off a porn star. He committed dozens of crimes with his co-Conspirator who went to jail. trump was spared temporarily because of the OLC Memo. It wasn't just that he cheated on all his wives but he called up the rags to get his picture of him and his latest whore on the front page, once while his wife was pregnant! His namesake son Jr. didn't talk to him for years. Trump continued lying about Obama birth for years even after it was proven a lie and finally admitted it but never apologized. Trump hired illegal immigrants for decades yet started his campaign lying about them being murderers, etc.
Look who's internal clock is stuck on 2016. Is that you Hillary?
Hilary could run a charity, Trump couldn't figure out that you have to GIVE to charities. https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/04/10/investigation-trump-charity-wins-pulitzer-prize/X8jYGgJac3KKCYAYEKEP2J/story.html
That's all conduct of no more relevance to government or Americans than Bill Clinton's decades long sexcapades and string of rapes.
What matters is what these people do as president, and Biden is destroying the country and destroying people's lives with his policies.
It is a culmination of a 6 year crime spree breaking every law possible in the Constitution.....High Crimes, Misdemeanors, Treason, Emoluments ($1.7 Billion) foreign and domestic, Hiring illegals, Bribery, Election payoff, Obstructing Justice,
Hush money, Abuse of power, Obstruction of Congress, Tax Fraud, Misappropriating government funds, Lying to the American People, Aiding and abetting in the murder of thousands and Rendering himself obnoxious.
“He bankrupted 6 casinos!” Oh no!
Why not bankrupt the nation? Future nonexistent billionaires can pay for it!
Lol. Goddamn dude, we’ve all seen the “government budgets can’t be compared to household budgets” canard to excuse massive deficit spending, but you manage to believe the inverse! Lack of private sector sector failures (or success) is proof of good stewardship of public funds! Brilliant!
I’m sure it will all work out just fine. Haha.
https://newrepublic.com/article/153855/trump-tax-returns-worst-businessman-america
“He bankrupted 6 casinos!”
Dunno which asshole to whom you responding, but it's odds on that the stupid son of a bitch never got near to managing, let alone owning a business.
Hint: Most businesses end up bankrupt.
Now, (the asshole to whom EISTAU Gree-Vance is replying) tell us how many Trump endeavors are successful.
And then fuck off and die.
Another TDS victim?
Yes
So you're saying that it's OK for Biden to bankrupt the nation to the tune of $10-20 trillion because Trump thought about spending $1 trillion on infrastructure (but didn't actually go through with it)?
What kind of logic is that?
What did Trump say in 2016?......... Balanced budget in 5 years, maybe less
TRUMP: There are so many things that we can cut ... and we can balance the budget very quickly. HANNITY: You think in five years? TRUMP: I think over a five-year period. And I don't know, maybe I could even surprise you.
[Fox News - Hannity, 1/21/16] He did surprise us...HAHA
And what do Trump's broken campaign promises have to do with Biden's destructive policies and incompetence?
What point are you trying to make here?
Easy....you are wrong and I am correct. I could list Trumps broken promises but since it involves many hundreds, I'll save you months of reading. I'll give you some economic policies you claim are destructive. Jobless claims lowest since 1969. Economy growing fastest since 1961. Biden 5 million jobs created compared to a negative -3,003,000 from Trump, worst in decades.
Those statistics are the kind of nonsense that impress the economically illiterate like you.
I did notice Trump didn't have any matching stats.
Who the fck cares? I didn’t vote for Trump. Trump is no longer president. Why do you keep bringing up Trump’s personal life when we are discussing Biden’s failing presidency?
Biden’s failing presidency?....Economy growing faster than in 1961, 60 years ago. Jobless claims lowest in 52 years, 1969. US adds 531,000 jobs in October as Biden hails ‘historically strong recovery’. President Biden created more jobs in first 7 months than ANY other President in history. Trumps loss of negative -3,003,000 jobs is a prime example of a FAILING PRESIDENCY. You must have not counted that since its bringing up his personal life ?
You are economically illiterate of you think those statistics mean anything.
Compared to your invisible in your mind stats ?
"...What kind of logic is that?"
When dealing with TDS-addled piles of lefty shit, expect none; it's all you'll get.
I agree...the statements Trump said on Fox News in 2016 were early symptoms of dementia. He did the same thing during his term as he did his whole life. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-made-at-least-16-billion-while-us-president-2021-2 EMOLUMENTS domestic and foreign...The emoluments clause, also called the foreign emoluments clause, is a provision of the U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 8) that prohibits federal officeholders from receiving ANY gift, payment, or other thing of value from a foreign state or its rulers, officers, or representatives. The Constitution also contains a “domestic emoluments clause” (Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 7), which prohibits the president from receiving ANY “Emolument” from the federal government or the states beyond “a Compensation” for his “Services” as chief executive.
Trump hotel income jumped from $33.8 million in 2016 to $60.5 million in 2017.
Various Trump properties banked at least $720,000 from Trump’s own campaign events.
After Trump was elected, Mar-a-Lago doubled member fees to $200,000 before taxes.
Secret Service golf-cart rentals alone cost taxpayers $137,000 in nine months. $650 a night rooms in his property.
The Republican National Committee (RNC) spent over $300,000 at Trump properties in 2016 and 2017. Disclosures reveal 2017 real estate income at $168.5 million, the highest amount recorded of any listed year.
The Trump Org. opened an online store in Nov. 2017. Buy a non-USA made polo shirt that says “Trump” on the front... $90.
Mar-a-Lago’s New Year’s party tickets jumped to as much as $750 per person in 2017.
Saudi Arabia paid (Ghosted) for 500 rooms at Trump's hotel after 2016 election (never stayed in)
His campaign illegally paid $22 Million, with foreign govts.
Like him or hate him, Trump clearly does not have dementia.
Like him or hate him, Biden is clearly mentally not all there.
1) Problems with short term memory. 2) Firing staff over and over. 3) On stand under oath, lying over 30 times, stating his net worth depends on how he feels. 4) Sued NFL(won $1 ) because he wanted his team to play on Sunday. 5) Tim "Apple" 6) Obama birth 7) asking why he can't use nukes 8) repeating Gen. and pigs blood 9) called rags to him and latest whore on front page. 10) never had a pet 11) tore up PDFs every day, staff had to tape them back 12) "I alone can fix it" 13) "nobody knows -------better than me (used 100s 0f times) 13) Lying 0.87 times per hour for 4 yrs.
And under what diagnostic criteria are those signs of dementia?
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President by Bandy X. Lee
To F* with national security. Everyone must bow to Bidens drug companies
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/dec/10/lucian-kins-navy-commander-fired-over-vaccine-refu/
You guys do an awful lot of bitching about the Build Back Better budget, but very little of late on the enormous sums of money funneled into the military industrial surveillance complex.
get bent Concern Troll.
Likewise, all these deficit spenders sure do hate tax cuts.
"You guys do an awful lot of bitching about the Build Back Better budget, but very little of late on the enormous sums of money funneled into the military industrial surveillance complex."
When the defense budget gets a mention here, hardly anyone supports it. Is it safe to assume you're nothing other than a lame apologist for droolin' Joe and lefty shits in general?
Put your faggotry on display elsewhere. We’re having a real discussion here. Something you incapable of.
It is not clear why steaming piles of lefty shit show up here to make the same damn claims which have, by a clear examination of history, been shown to be bullshit, and then request cites to prove what is quite obvious.
(just checking... Yep this is the thread where the newest lefty ignoramus showed up)
Is this a surprise to those assholes? Have they somehow avoided any lessons from history? Or are they simply stupid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc&t=10s
I'm opting for that later; stupidity explains a lot.
CBYes ) Yes to Communusm)
Marxist class warfare Sunday..
93 M unvaccinated people are causing increase in coronavirus spread...
Not a peep about vaccinated people spreading it bc of vaccines that dont work!
Media Goose- step!
You mean you can't get something for nothing?
Whod've thunk it?
learn spanish. youll be in!
Glad to have Manchin as my senator (for a change).
Media pissing ( and moaning) about covid numbers in MI and NH (?).
No idea why...blaming unvaccinated people.
There are unvaxxed people EVERYWHERE.
Heres a hint to why..
MASK MANDATES.
Thanks for This Article.Great
Thanks for The Content
The real problem is that the 3+ trillion is a low-ball estimate and will likely cost much much more.