A Ruling Against Greg Abbott Suggests Federal Law May Require Schools To Mandate Masks
A federal judge concluded that the Texas governor's ban on mask mandates illegally discriminated against students with disabilities.

A federal judge this week barred Texas Gov. Greg Abbott from enforcing his ban on face mask mandates in public schools. U.S. District Judge Lee Yeakel ruled that Abbott's policy violated federal laws prohibiting discrimination against people with disabilities.
Yeakel's decision ostensibly leaves Texas school districts free to decide for themselves whether students and staff should be required to wear masks as a safeguard against COVID-19. But if school districts decide not to require masks, his logic suggests they could themselves be vulnerable to anti-discrimination lawsuits, which would effectively make federal advice on the subject mandatory.
The plaintiffs in this case are seven public school students who are 12 or younger and have various disabilities, including asthma, immune deficiency, Down syndrome, cerebral palsy, spina bifida, a heart defect, chronic respiratory failure, and underlying reactive airway disease. Those disabilities, the students' parents said, make them especially likely to catch COVID-19 or especially likely to suffer severe symptoms.
The parents argued that the executive order Abbott issued on July 29, which said "no governmental entity" may "require any person to wear a face covering," violated the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 because it prevented school districts from accommodating their children by requiring masks. The ADA prohibits discrimination against people with disabilities by state or local governments, including "all programs, services, and regulatory activities relating to the operation of elementary and secondary education systems." Section 504 prohibits such discrimination in programs that receive federal assistance.
The plaintiffs argued that Abbott's order had the effect of "placing children with disabilities in imminent danger or unlawfully forcing those children out of the public school system." Under the ADA, "no qualified individual with a disability shall,
by reason of such disability, be excluded from participation in or be denied the benefits of services, programs, or activities of a public entity, or be subjected to discrimination by any such entity."
Yeakel notes that ADA regulations address various forms of discrimination, "including discrimination that results from a public entity's implementation of facially neutral policies." He adds that "discrimination against individuals with disabilities results not just from intentional exclusion, but also from segregation; the failure to make modifications to existing practices; relegation to lesser services, programs, activities, benefits, or other opportunities; and exclusionary qualification standards and criteria."
The ADA prohibits "denying students with disabilities the 'opportunity to participate in or benefit from' a school's aid, benefits, or services that is 'equal to that afforded others'; denying students with disabilities 'the opportunity to participate in services, programs, or activities that are not separate or different' from those provided to non-disabled students; and denying students with disabilities the opportunity to receive a school's 'services, programs, and activities in the most integrated setting appropriate to the needs' of students with disabilities."
Yeakel notes that Abbott's order "prohibits school districts from adopting a mask mandate of any kind, even if a school district determines after an individual assessment that mask wearing is necessary to allow disabled students equal access to the benefits that in-person learning provides to other students." In his view, that amounts to "denying students with disabilities the equal opportunity to participate in in-person learning with their non-disabled peers," which "means that they are being 'excluded from participation in or be[ing] denied the benefits of the services, programs, or activities of a public entity.'" Abbott's policy, Yeakel says, "prevents local school districts from satisfying their ADA obligations to provide students with disabilities the 'opportunity to participate in or benefit from' in-person instruction that is 'equal to that afforded others,' that is 'not separate or different' from that provided to non-disabled students, and that is 'in the most integrated setting appropriate.'"
Does that mean the ADA requires school districts to enforce "universal masking," as recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)? Maybe, although Yeakel leaves open the possibility that a narrower policy might be enough to comply with the ADA. He notes that Abbott's order "not only prohibits school districts from implementing universal masking in schools in accordance with CDC guidelines, but also from imposing limited mask requirements, such as in one wing of a school building or in one classroom, or by requiring an individual aide to wear a mask while working one-on-one with a student who is at heightened risk of serious illness or death from COVID-19."
Yeakel does not address the question of whether the plaintiffs' COVID-19 fears are reasonable. He mentions this year's "surge" in pediatric COVID-19 cases and "the emergence of the Delta variant of COVID-19, which is more than twice as contagious as previous variants." As of November 4, he notes, "6,503,629 total child COVID-19 cases have been reported in the United States, representing more than 16.7% of the total cases in the United States."
Yeakel does not mention that such cases are typically mild and almost never fatal. As of November 10, according to the CDC's tally, 595 Americans younger than 18 had died from COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, which represents 0.08 percent of all COVID-19 deaths in the United States. By comparison, the CDC estimated that 486 minors died from the seasonal flu in 2019–20. The CDC estimates that the COVID-19 infection fatality rate for this age group is 0.002 percent.
The whole premise of this lawsuit, of course, is that children with certain disabilities face a higher-than-average risk of life-threatening COVID-19 symptoms. But even if their risk of death were 10 or 100 times as high, it would still be very, very small.
The availability of vaccines also should figure into this risk assessment. When Yeakel heard this case last month, all but one of the students was younger than 12, meaning they were not yet eligible for vaccination. But on October 29, the Food and Drug Administration approved the Pfizer vaccine for 5-to-11-year-olds. Even if some of the plaintiffs are medically disqualified from vaccination, which provides very effective protection from the worst consequences of COVID-19, vaccination of their fellow students will reduce the risk of in-school transmission.
Yeakel not only did not consider the magnitude of the danger that COVID-19 poses to children; he did not consider whether school mask mandates are a cost-effective response to that danger. "Plaintiffs here have alleged that the use of masks by those around them is a measure that would lower their risk of contracting the virus and thus make it safer for them to return to and remain in an in-person learning environment," he writes. "The evidence here supports that the use of masks may decrease the risk of COVID infection in group settings."
That is not exactly a ringing endorsement of school mask mandates, which are controversial in the United States and eschewed by many other developed countries. The evidence that the benefits of such policies outweigh the substantial burdens they impose is in fact quite limited and equivocal. But if making masks optional leaves school districts open to discrimination claims like these, local officials may be inclined to ignore the paucity of empirical support for that policy and impose mandates they otherwise would reject.
Yeakel frames his decision as one that favors local autonomy and flexibility—just as Education Secretary Miguel Cardona did when he announced that his department was investigating states that ban school mask mandates for possible violations of the ADA and the Rehabilitation Act. But the threat of litigation could mean that local school officials will be free to make their own decisions only if they settle on the policy that Cardona and the CDC favor.
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the 5th will laugh at Yeakel
I have read dumb Federal Court opinions, but this is up there with the dumbest. It is the opposite of logic.
No, it's just that the ADA is wack. There is no policy that can ever be promulgated that can't be couched as discriminating against the disabled. Decorations? Discriminate against the blind.
Exactly, this could easily be turned around by the parents of a deaf student who is not able to read anyone's lips when they are wearing a mask
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I really doubt that this would present any practical issue. There are about 500 deaf public school students in Texas. There are about 9000 public schools. That means about one out of eighteen schools would have this issue. On top of this, young people are far less likely to use lip reading than to know sign language. The number of students in a situation you describe is vanishingly small and best dealt with on an individual basis anyway.
Of course, I am sure you were not serious and were just reaching for some argument that would just possibly work against a very rational decision against a governor who is taking away Texas schools' freedom of individual choice for how to deal with Covid. It really surprises me how pretzel-like some who call themselves "libertarian" can design their arguments. Ah well, just one more right-wing snowflake I guess.
Now a Texas school is an individual? That's... interesting.
You know what else those crazy libertarians support? A list of things that local governments CAN'T DO! And it's the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT enforcing it! Can you believe those mental pretzel gymnastics they must be doing to support the bill of rights?
"Texas schools' freedom of individual choice"
GOVERNMENT INSTITUTIONS now have personal rights?
Seriously?
This is dumber than the opinion in this case.
School districts have individual rights to take away the rights of individuals. Or something like that.
that slippery slope happened when corporations were granted personhood status.
VERYbad precedent
Over 200 years ago, so it must not be all that slippery.
false. Not over 200 years.
.The radical Left behind this is a more modern contrivance.
And your lame deceptive " proving a negative" meme failed.
500? That number seems wrong, since I personally met a half-dozen growing up, and I wasn't nearly the largest school. Given the statistics, I'd guess a hundred times that
I was just thinking that. Shouldn't forcing asthmatic children to wear masks also go against the ADA?
I guess. If one could muster any scientific evidence that wearing approved masks actually adversely affects asthmatics when they are not having an actual attack. And by "scientific", I'm afraid I don't mean something a single MD has decided is true, some physicist maintains is true, or what some mother maintains on Facebook. I would mean a peer-reviewed study published in a reputable journal. Even then, as there are several studies that show just the opposite that already exists, it would only make such a proposition arguable.
Ahhh, so in your mind, a government can force people to do something as long as it doesn't physically hurt them, huh?
Please move somewhere that doesn't have a Bill of Rights.
Of course, there is no evidence that masking children prevents them spreading COVID-19, and some evidence that it otherwise harms them. (The CDC apparently based their masking recommendations on essentially models based on grossly flawed assumptions).
thete IS volumnous evidence that masks dont work to stop water droplets.
Peer reviewed published scientific research papers, not opinions of Talking Head Political CDC appointees...
Google " Why masks dont work" for comprehensive research in the Dentistry world.
Exactly, and as volunteer who works with the severely disabled I can point to hundreds of kids and adults that cannot physically wear masks because of their disabilities. One size does not fit all. Forcing the larger population to wear a mask for a smaller at risk disabled population disables the larger population.
Then I would imagine that your institution would deal with such cases ACCORDING TO YOU INDIVIDUAL SITUATION. In case you missed it, the decision was to preclude the governor from prohibiting the separate institutions that constitute Texas' different school districts from making their own decisions for themselves. IT DOES NOT MANDATE MASKS.
Actually, the governor's bill was designed to require an institution to deal with such cases on an individual level. By disallowing mandates, it prevents schools from ignoring individuals with blanket bans.
"Then I would imagine that your institution would deal with such cases ACCORDING TO YOU INDIVIDUAL SITUATION. In case you missed it, the decision was to preclude the governor from prohibiting the separate institutions that constitute Texas' different school districts from making their own decisions for themselves. IT DOES NOT MANDATE MASKS."
If YOUR child "needs" a mask, the governor is not prohibiting that in the slightest. Your child is fully permitted to wear a mask if you insist.
My child, though, should not have to because your asinine demands.
So you believe local school boards have legal supremacy over-
(a) students and parents
(b) state officials
(c) federal officials
Is this some general principle or just a one-off argument for this case?
So schools are now required to make the health of disabled vulnerable students the responsibility of the other students parents by requiring them to force their children to protect them by wearing masks. Common sense would dictate the parents of the disabled vulnerable students to take responsibility for their children themselves by providing N95 masks for their children.
Yes. That’s exactly what this idiot judge is saying.
Since the beginning of time, vulnerable people took care to protect themselves and were protected by their caregivers.
This idiot judge, the ACLU, and the Biden sleaze now propose that it’s your duty to protect the vulnerable, so they don’t need to protect themselves and have to feel different.
This is about their feelings, not health.
I'm reminded of when some school or another put up videos of all their classes for free. But the videos had no subtitles, so somebody complained that deaf people couldn't take advantage of the videos, therefore it was discrimination.
The school's response was not to add subtitles to their classes (which would have taken hundreds of hours a day), it was to completely kill the video program.
SUCCESS!
I know, right? Yeakel the yokel.
violated the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 because it prevented school districts from accommodating their children by requiring masks
A device that doesn't protect children from a virus that is not going to kill them is an accommodation? How long did they shop to get this dickhead judge?
New federal policy: No Child Left Alone.
The problem is that there will never be anyone as strong or as smart as Harrison Bergeron to break the cycle.
The problem is that there will never be anyone as strong or as smart as Harrison Bergeron to break the cycle.
The totality of the state in Harrison Bergeron's reality is less than ours. He was simply able to take the stage and the broadcasters were relatively powerless to stop the broadcast. His government's ability to reach into people's lives may've been greater but... *silences silver alert on phone*... what were we talking about?
*silences silver alert on phone*
Dementia patient on the loose. Last seen leaving 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC, answers to Brandon.
>>How long did they shop to get this dickhead judge?
they're kept in a cooler in Austin
Fuck these people's defective children.
It's like they *want* a backlash against the crippled.
I’ve got nothing by sympathy for these defective kids. They’re just the tools being used by the adults here.
This makes no sense. What previous accommodations for the disabled involve forcing everyone else to do something? I mean, teh ADA is fucked, but I don't think it's that fucked.
It's not about accommodating kids. It's about control.
Progressives are right about one thing. They have to tear down the edifice so they can get to the real Build Back Better. They will fetter all students with the weakest until even moderates join them in their goal of riding the world of the the infirm and the unclean.
"Three generations of imbeciles are enough," will be their rallying cry again one day.
"Three generations of imbeciles are enough"
We've had way more generations of Ds and Rs than that.
Could be. Remember who the draft riots turned against? After all, the draft was because of the war, and the war was because of the slaves, and slavery was caused by the existence of black people.
Well, yeah. It still makes no sense.
According to Tony illogic, not taking is giving and not giving is taking.
Maybe this is similar illogic where not forcing kids to wear masks is the same as forcing kids to not wear masks?
That which is not required is prohibited?
Then again, a judge's job is to use twisted lawyer logic to reach a predetermined conclusion by whatever means necessary, not to actually rule on the law.
>>a judge's job is to
support the State.
All of this illogic is getting hard to follow.
"Then again, a judge's job is to use twisted lawyer logic to reach a predetermined conclusion by whatever means necessary, not to actually rule on the law."
Too true. I was thinking something along these lines when I read that article about the vaccine mandate case seemingly hinging on the definitions of words.
I've said for years that lawyers, by training and by inclination, are people that can cheerfully and convincingly argue that up is down, that black is white, that left is right, and that "Thou shalt not" means "Thou must" - and that what they argue is entirely dependent on who's paying them to argue it. You can't believe a damn word any lawyer says.
That's why "Rule of Law" is a joke. When the same law is interpreted ten different way by ten different judges, then the law means nothing at all.
Good point.
As long as you've retained them and are willing to pay their billable hours, yes.
What previous accommodations for the disabled involve forcing everyone else to do something? I mean, teh ADA is fucked, but I don't think it's that fucked.
The absurd moral counter-argument that forcing everyone to use crutches because one person has to use crutches wasn't absurd because the cruelty of forcing everyone to use crutches far exceeds any benefit derived from one person feeling more normal. It was absurd because you'd be a stupid moralist/idealist to think the government doesn't have the power to enforce such cruelty for essentially no reason.
His fallback position is masks are a tax not a penalty.
Hypoxia is definitely taxing on children.
Those kids could talk until they were blue in the face and not convince the judge.
It is now.
This makes no sense. What previous accommodations for the disabled involve forcing everyone else to do something? I mean, teh ADA is fucked, but I don't think it's that fucked.
You have no idea how bad things are. Many students get extra time on tests now, and other "accommodations" which are unquestionably competitive advantages. The costs of such measures are always borne by everyone else.
You are hitting on the crucial part of the legal analysis absent from the article’s summary, i.e. whether the requested accommodation is “reasonable.”
Further, even if masking 1,000 kids to accommodate 1 bubble boy could be considered reasonable, the claimant is only entitled to A reasonable accommodation, not necessarily the accommodation of his choice.
Prohibiting schools from forcing kids to wear masks doesn't prohibit parents from sending their kids to school with masks and asking the school to make sure the kid wears it.
The ruling makes no sense at all.
These are kids with medical exemptions to not wear masks.
Essentially, everyone else must wear masks so that THEY can continue going to school without wearing a mask.
Thank you, mandatory vaccine logic.
The end result of this is that if you have a disabled kid, they will be put in a classroom with other disabled kids, and they will all be required to wear masks. You will no longer be able to have your kid in the general population, because for some stupid ass reason you think your kid's autism will make them die of the WuFlu.
Well, if you are going to be that stupid, it is your choice.
About time. I have been wanting my kids to mix with only the abled children.
disclaimer: a heavy layer of sarcasm was used in the making of this comment
Why are my choices being made by the stupid?
Democracy.
No, the Marxists are smarter than we are and know how to game the system. Own-goal outcomes aren't happening, as much as we would like them too. The Marxists are integrating mentally disabled students into ordinary classrooms as much as they possibly can, consistent with abolishing streaming and removing instruction for gifted students.
On the one hand: Abbots law banning mandates by local schools is stupid.
On the other hand: this judges ruling is, possibly, more stupid by several magnitudes.
On the third hand: if the ADA requires every school-kid in the nation to wear a mask, this might lead to parents fleeing the public schools by the millions. THIS is a good thing.
On the other hand: this judges ruling is more stupid by, possibly, several magnitudes.
*winces at radio squelch in ear*
I can hardly see your comment through these damn glasses they make me wear.
"Abbots law banning mandates by local schools is stupid"
No not its not. It's entirely awesome.
Allowing individuals to take action on a near zero risk for their children will never be stupid.
"Allowing individuals to take action on a near zero risk for their children will never be stupid."
You are correct. That would be the ideal. But as long as public schools are ... public.... then, sadly, they are part of the "commons," which means they come under the control of the government. And I would rather see it under the control of local school boards, and individual schools, rather than the State government. At least until we can replace those "public" schools with vouchers.
I'd rather choose if my child has to wear a mask instead of a school board. Banning mask MANDATES permits me to make that call.
"I'd rather choose if my child has to wear a mask instead of a school board. Banning mask MANDATES permits me to make that call."
Indeed. Unless, of course, the feds step in, through the ADA, and overrule Abbot. Government infringement on individual choices re the commons are always going to be with us, from speed limits on public roads to spitting on the sidewalk to "masking." It is much easier to combat them when such restrictions are local.
Sorry, the libertarian in me is skeptical of ALL government interventions, and the bigger the government, the worse the intervention. And don't even get me started on private businesses not being free to enforce their own health standards.
I wouldn't be against a reasonable rule requiring disabled students to wear N95 masks that actually protect them and leaving everyone else alone to make their own decisions. This could lead to permanent mask wearing to protect against all respiratory diseases that are commonly spread through schools until children become immune.
On the one hand: Abbots law banning mandates by local schools is stupid.
No, it was a surgical, pre-emptive strike against fascism.
“On the third hand: if the ADA requires every school-kid in the nation to wear a mask, this might lead to parents fleeing the public schools by the millions. THIS is a good thing.”
Do you honestly believe that if enough parents started pulling their children out of public schools that the federal government wouldn’t step in and use some legal or political argument to stop it? It’s not like the teachers and the Teachers Union would sit back and take it. Your children are no longer your children, they are property of the State and will be indoctrinated to suit their goals.
We'll be Germany, where it is illegal to teach your kids at home, hire tutors to do so, or form neighborhood pod schools.
Jeff's Ghost, if you mean private schools, the ADA applies to them.
If you mean single-family homeschooling, maybe they could escape. If you mean a pod with some other families, and it's not advertised anyplace, and no money changes hands, maybe they could escape.
As soon as you post a notice on Craigslist or start paying somebody, lawyers will argue it's a public accommodation or a workplace.
"Jeff's Ghost, if you mean private schools, the ADA applies to them."
Yeppers. And then the government would probably have to sue the organization in question, and doing so, would (hopefully) have to prove the efficacy of its demands (masks), something that just might not work out in their favor. Apparently, there were a lot of private schools who chose not to require masks, and I am unaware of any instances which State or local governments intervened.
End public schools. That solves the mask, vaccine and disability issues. Amongst many others.
That's really fucking realistic.
man's gotta dream.
Nearly as good and much more realistic.
The idea that the President can dictate school policy is quintessential dictatorship.
How does banning a mandate discriminate against anyone? People are still free to wear a mask if they choose.
People must not be given the opportunity to chose.
Freedom to choose is not in the Constitution apparently.
Because the disabilities mentioned are medically exempt from wearing masks, so to keep them safe, everyone else around them must be forced to wear a mask.
But are they able to send their kids to school unmasked? That is the real question. What had been happening was progressive school boards, based on no real evidence (which is where the CDC guidelines fall) were requiring masking of all students. The Governor said that they couldn’t require every kid to be masked, and this suit essentially allows the progressive school boards to require masking of all the kids.
I get the idea this is one of those legalities where whoever sues first gets to take the initiative. It could just as well have been disabled students suing against a mask mandate. You snooze, you lose.
It could just as well have been disabled students suing against a mask mandate.
Which would make more sense, actually.
I miss the days when parents of special needs kids wanted their kids to NOT be treated like fragile freaks who need daddy government to keep them safe.
What kind of a genetic invalid does a kid have to be to have everyone else around them be masked just to accommodate them?
Special needs kids are already pretty segregated, all this ruling will do is make certain that the rest of the pack resents them.
Especially if the disabled kids don’t have to follow the mask rules that the other kids follow.
You want a generation of healthy kids to treat the disabled as the enemy, this is how you do it.
A federal judge concluded that the Texas governor's ban on mask mandates illegally discriminated against students with disabilities.
Before you libtards shit all over the comments, thing about this. there is merit to this. If you're too retarded to put on a mask without being told, a ban on being told is discriminatory. So this ruling does indeed protect retards.
Pure 'of, for, and by the people' ultimately boils down to of, for, and by retards.
Oh, speaking of COVID-retardation...don't hate the player, hate the game.
In any other context, this would be "accounting fraud", but in the context of COVID-19, it's "following the science".
Goebbels would be so proud
That’s DOCTOR Goebbels to you! Obviously he would be better qualified to Follow The Science than most of us here on this thread!
The credentialism required to follow the science is pretty impressive too. Years of med school to be fail to distinguish a bullet wound from a lung infection on sight is pretty damned astounding. All that education and debt to obtain a certificate to allow you to do what you're told to do.
Well, Paul, if not for COVID he might have survived the bullet. Everybody knows why Superman cannot be killed by bullets.
Yup, he NEVER once had COVID.
I think this is just a way to keep more accurate statistics on Covid deaths. If you've got Covid, you're going to die, so the fact that this guy cheated death by arranging to be shot shouldn't really take away from the fact that the Covid had sentenced him to death anyway. And btw, this nonsense that Covid has only a tiny chance of killing you is so preposterously stupid - in the long run, Covid has a 100% death rate. Check back in about 150 years, and I can guarantee you that every single person who contracted the virus will be dead. It's foolish for you to be so cavalier about the effects of this pandemic.
Well according to Biden's... COVID czar, can't remember what his name is (different guy than Fauci) he has said on Twitter (and for the record, I believe he is 100% correct) that everyone will eventually catch COVID and there's nothing we can do about it.
Again, for the record, I believe he is correct. Which is also why I'm pro-vaccine for people in vulnerable categories. Old, infirm, immuno-compromised etc. The vaccine rounds some of the sharp edges off the disease.
So lockdowns, masks, social distancing, all the stuff which is stubbornly still happening 22 months later is just causing COVID to "drip" through society as Dr. Bhattacharaya pointed out.
I have to agree. We are all going to get it. The vaccine only lowers symptoms. It doesn't stop the spread, and COVID mutates too fast for normal immunity to last long. Fortunately, subsequent infections are far less likely to be a problem. We need to stop the fear, the masking, and just live our lives. It's going to be with us just like the flu
Straight up... Your an absolute idiot. No ifs ands or buts. Just a retarded dude from Jerry's Kids. Never has anyone ever written more dishonest bull. Covid AS A VIRIS.., never EVER has proven to exist in nature OR in a human. That is intill u get the death shot. AS u morons have injected the covid-19 into your bodies. Certificate of Vaccination ID-AI IS what u fools have chosen. Which is a Gain of Function tool to take over YOU! Thank GOD..., idiots like u will be gone soon. It's Harvest time fool. Goats and Sheep. Enjoy your foolishly chosen ride to hell.
The Phucko Knows
This has to be sarcasm. The poor spelling and grammar, missing the point entirely, *and* starting off with a declaration that the person being responded to is an idiot?
Straight through the ten ring.
Unless I'm mistaken, and this was serious, and the poster thinks that not everyone who has had Covid will be dead 150 years from now. Which is either remarkably optimistic about future improvements in lifespan, or idiocy.
South Park already did this episode
They stole it from the WHO.
they won't get fooled again.
I'm being dead serious when I ask: If WWIII broke out, should we even try to liberate the covidians? It's not looking worth.
Logical consequences are no barrier to judges making shit up. I was upset to see this is a (presumably senile) Bush appointee rather than the much more probable Democrat hack I would expect behind a decision like this. But that just highlights the rule: 100% of the time Democrats are going to put a hack on the courts, and 33% of the time Republicans are, too.
Abbott's policy violated federal laws prohibiting discrimination against people with disabilities.
ironic.
No it didn't. This judge is just retarded.
Sounds like some snowflake is all butthurt they can't enforce a mandate. Hmm...
A mandate that frees you from force brought about from the state. Hmm…
Exactly the opposite. Abbot was preventing school boards from enforcing idiotic and unhealthy universal masking requirements in schools. The judge just reinstated the school boards’ ability to require masking of all their students.
Giving up your rights to OWN the cons is awesome, ain't it?
A lot of people don’t get the humor of the comment because they’ve never noticed that Abbott is a paraplegic.
They just assume he likes to be photographed sitting.
Are the disabled people who need accomodations involving forcing everyone else to do something our retarded political leaders in DC and their clapping seal followers? Because that is the only way this ruling kind of makes sense.
It'll be overturned on appeal - no one is stopping you from wearing a mask.
Funny though - under the exact same logic as this case a mask mandate would be equally illegal.
No - the judge is essentially allowing school boards to require universal masking of all their students.
This logic works off of one of the more asinine idioms of the covid era, "Your mask protects me." That bullshit makes my skin crawl.
As mentioned above, using that logic means there is literally nothing that can't be mandated as being "protective of others".
This is going to set some interesting precedence. Next up, any and all foods that some people may be allergic to will be banned in schools. They need to do away with stairs and make all students use wheelchair ramps. The possibilities are endless. Precedence has consequences. People who don't understand this do not belong in judicial positions.
Mask mandates discriminate against people who are claustrophobic as well as people with ADHD. I for one would not be able to maintain focus in school having to wear a muzzle all day.
Pretty sure if you asked the judge about this, you'd get a 'well, I didn't mean THAT!'
No IQ test required to get the robe.
When the ADA was passed, critics warned that it would open all sorts of doors for the government to trample on civil liberties. Those critics were dismissed as heartless trolls who hate the handicapped.
Sort of like the "emergency" powers "granted" to Newsom and the rest of the tin-pot-dictator wannabes.
The first problem with the ruling is that The Masks DO NOT WORK! Therefor the whole law suit is based on a false premise and should have been dismissed. Take a look at this study of studies https://www.aier.org/article/masking-a-careful-review-of-the-evidence/
Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, Not A Newspaper!
Such small government to ban local governments from doing something...
By that logic, you must think libertarians are firmly against the Constitution.
Raspie doesn't think at all. Ever. About anything. It just emotes.
I'm looking forward to a crippling blow to the ADA after appeals.
Just ban school altogether, to keep the children safe.
The plaintiffs in this case are seven public school students who are 12 or younger and have various disabilities, including asthma, immune deficiency, Down syndrome, cerebral palsy, spina bifida, a heart defect, chronic respiratory failure, and underlying reactive airway disease. Those disabilities, the students' parents said, make them especially likely to catch COVID-19 or especially likely to suffer severe symptoms.
Um. Were these parents ever worried about colds, flu, RSV? Cuz these kids look like they shouldn't even be out of the house, much less in school around the germiest of the lil germ machines.
These are kids who are probably homebound, taught by visiting teachers, whose parents saw an opportunity to unburden themselves for a few hours a day, by turning the schools into medical wards.
With a court win, mommy can now go to the spa every day between 8 and 3, instead of caring for their sick child.
or go back to work.
I guess we had best remove all the stairs and make everyone walk up the handicap ramp. That makes about as much sense as this ruling.
The judge is basically saying that in order to accommodate handicapped students, every student should be handicapped. What about the students who are harmed by wearing a mask due to their own disability?
I guess we are at the point where those that can run fast should wear extra weights on their ankles so as to not run faster than anyone else in a race. We are now officially a handicapper society.
I didn't want our nation to get to this point. Congratulations to all of you who were offended by a few snarky tweets! Well done indeed!
It does have a very Harrison Bergeron feel to it.
"I guess we had best remove all the stairs and make everyone walk up the handicap ramp. That makes about as much sense as this ruling."
.False.
The analogy is reversing a policy requiring each Student to bring a ramp he doesnt need and not requiring anyone TO use a ramp.
"A Ruling Against Greg Abbott Suggests Federal Law May Require..."
If anyone cared to look PAST the government (Gov-God worshiping) and comprehend that not EVERYTHING must be government decided ([WE] mob dictated) it would be a HUGE step at fixing the USA.
A court literally ruled that NOT being able to force masks on all kids is a violation of civil rights.
The fuck?
Exactly. He is reinstating the power of (often leftist) school boards to require universal masking. The ADA is only a pretext.
Looter logic is doublethink. Gloating Dems seek to get Race Suicide klansmen used to being slapped down before stopping them from paying bounty hunters tax dollars for kidnapping women into involuntary labor. Dems get to use ADA to batter the girl bulliers because it's their turn at bat. God's Own Patriarchy wants the Altruism Demands Aggression act to use on the Dems after they rob the election next inning. What would be the point of rough baseball if "either team" were to get rid of the damn bat?
exactly. illogical. purely political manipulation.
Reason, laws in the US are made by Congress and signed by the President. Executive orders are dictators wishes.
"The whole premise of this lawsuit, of course, is that children with certain disabilities face a higher-than-average risk of life-threatening"
Actually, the entire premise of the lawsuit is "Governor Abbot is a Republican and we found a partisan Democrat judge to rule against him entirely on that basis."
The judgement is laughable. And it is instuctive. These people will politicize anything, and they have not the slightest care what the fallout is in terms of legal precedent.
Under this theory of the ADA, if I just had chemotherapy and my immune system is completely wiped out, the ADA would require the New York Yankees to accommodate me by requiring everyone at a game to wear N-95 masks, including the players. it is just beyond ridiculous.
Sadly, judge is a Bush appointee.
Then again, so was Roberts.
Suckers repeatedly expect consistency after throwing their votes away on force-initiating looters.
youre a LIAR.
ADA would NOT require that.
It eclxempts accommodations that are not reasonable.
I read it. Clearly you didnt
ps that rebuke was to Cyto who is Pearl Clutching...
Did you miss the article?
The judge ruled against Abbott because of the ADA, saying if some kid had a health reason that other kids need to be masked, it would be an ADA violation for the school *not* to force them to do so.
All public accommodations are covered by the ADA.
Now, since you read it, perhaps you meant that the judge's ruling was farcical and bound to be overturned. That is a definite possibility.
but if this ruling is upheld and it becomes the law of the land, that is indeed what it means. Just as New Hampshire is required to have wheelchair accessible cabins on mountaintop campsites that are only reachable by hiking very steep trails, this ruling would require all venues to accommodate folks with disabilities that require others to be masked by enforcing a mask mandate.
Bad cases make bad law.
And if we were to recognize that government has no lawful authority in education to begin with...? ...that government school should be abolished and education returned to the responsibility of the individual and their families..? this problem goes away.
Separate government from education.
But you're going to go on insisting that people submit themselves to the free market, right? Even if they happened to be born to parents who are too lazy or too stupid to get them educated?
Is this the "life isn't fair, suck it up and die" bestest possible philosophy I've heard so much about?
Ironically; The parents who attended Commie-Education are too lazy and too stupid to get them educated... So your point is completely mute.
We have...thats how we got IDIOT POLITICIANS!!
It is long established precedent that state governments can require vaccine mandates and Texas is among those requiring them for students to get a public education. The Covid vaccine is only different because the GOP figured out it was another cultural war banner and they don't have any other issues, and because grown ups would have to get it, instead of their kids - poor babies!
The only legal issue is if the feds have the power to require mandates for anyone other than it's employees.
“It’s” means “it is.” You’re looking for the possessive “its.” Get your vaccine and go back to grammar school.
All other vaccine mandates require that the institution or government establish a compelling interest in compliance.
Polio killed 10% of infected kids. Measles blinds kids, kills 1%, and spreads easily, while the vaccine is utterly harmless.
Covid does nearly nothing to kids, kills 0.0002%, kids don’t spread it, and the vaccine does cause more harm and lost days of school than the disease.
There’s a compelling interest in a polio and measles vaccine. None for Covid.
It’s not a GOP issue. It’s a science issue.
m40, Covid has killed more Americans than nay war we've been in and more than we lost to any disease in 2020, including heart disease and cancer. It is also capable of seriously damaging survivors for the rest of their lives as approx 20% of them show up at their docs in a few months with heart, lung, and brain problems. This of course says nothing of the terrible suffering survivors in the ICU go through for as long as a month, so you are just wrong on the seriousness of Covid, which unlike heart disease, cancer, and wars is very contagious. Lastly, there are no serious risks using the vaccines of numeric significance.
liar.
50,000 plus died from the " safe vaccine"
You LIARS all make the same type of comment.
Proving a Negative (" no it isnt") and you NEVER prove your Negative.
"Covid has killed more Americans than nay war we've been in and more than we lost to any disease in 2020"
Yes thats true for ADULTS. NOT for kids.
Not "adults". Seniors over 70 for the most part.
The handicapped arent prevented from wearing a Political Compliance Mask.
So whats the problem?
"Free- dom?" ( Star Trek TOS...)
One gets the impression that the right-wing woke mob didn't even think about the disableds.
Go ahead, go after the disableds like you're going after black people and trans people. See if that wins you elections.
Ya; Not being FORCED to cater to black people and disabled people is soooooooooo awful and unfair!!! /s Your self-entitlement is off the charts.
It is awful and unfair. Obviously so. You make demands on your fellow citizens. You make more of them every day! So stop claiming that you're the only one with any rights.
No Tony; That's entirely you and your ilk making more demands on your fellow citizens.. I know this because you're constantly pushing more Gov-Guns on them with your "big plans". Just can't leave them alone.
Tony and the mystical fascist looters commit the same fallacy of equivocating political rights and political power. A right is an ethical claim to freedom of action. Power is the rate at which a monopoly on force is able to kill the disobedient. Both schools of socialist equivocation are shocked at the thought of uncoerced action and resentful that the other looters' disobedience leaves them no alternative but to murder as many victims as they can contrive to blame for causing them to resort to deadly force at every opportunity.
1. Perfectly correct
2. Way beyond the sub 50 I.Q. level of Toadstool Squatters like Tony.
Who is going after those people and how are they doing it? In what way should everyone be thinking about disabled? You must divide everyone up into groups you consider different and treat them as such. That is about as racist and prejudiced as you can get.
Not allowing schools to take precautionary measures during a pandemic with a mean-spirited, cynical, mass murdering political stunt means disabled students don't have the same schooling rights as healthy students.
They didn't think of them because they are cynical, mass-murdering lunatics in thrall to a fat orange traitor.
Don't like that Commie-Education after all eh?
Now; if your ignorance would subside just a hair you might learn something.
grouping people is Marxism.
Class Warfare
"Section 504 prohibits such discrimination in programs that receive federal assistance."
There is the culprit right there and also an UN-Constitutional subsidizing of State's.
how is it discrimination to NOT require someone to do something?
The law was to NOT require ANYONE to wear a mask.
That is not discrimination.
It's not; just more to the point that Nazi-Dictation (sh*t flows downhill) from the Nazi-Regime in the 'federal' onto the States via Crony Socialism. Which is a violation of 'The People's' law over them.
It would be a tragedy if that judge fell into a wood chipper. Very sad. I would definitely weep.
I see what you did there.
The Nazi-Regime is watching!!! 🙂
Vee Haf Vays af making yu VEAR A MASK!!!
yeah..all that time to clean it up afterwards..
What a tragedy
There was a time when nothing bothered The Kleptocracy so much as the kids who were shooting up knowing "their" government was lying. The only difference now is that both lying looter halves are right about the other looters lying. Mystical prohibitionists know a germ war attack when they see it, yet dare not let on overtly. Pagan looters know the mystics are right about the Reds, and resent the effort it takes to disbelieve that.
ADA is reasinable accomodation of handucapped persons.
NOT requiring OTHERS to do something is NOT a tenent of ADA.
A lawsuit presupposes real, material harm to a Plaintiff.
Interesting how these Left wing political lawsuits are only based on theory...
One wonders how they achieved standing for this suit.
The Law did not act on Students. It was an action towards School Boards, not students.
Therefore the Ruling is corrupt.
Any entity that places a mandate should be required to accept the liability of any harm caused by the mandate.
Private companies:
Existing employees would be receiving a new requirement to maintain employment, the company is obligated to pay and make right for any damages caused by the mandate that they impose.
New employees however would only be hired if they met the requirements, so the company would not be responsible.
Government:
Should not be allowed period.
mandates are dictatorial. The entire purpose of the US Constitution is a Representative system.
School boards making mandates is communistic and corporate.
Mixing Government and Corporations was the original problem leading to the Revolutionary War.
STATE-COURT CHALLENGES TO ABBOTT'S PRO-DISASTER ORDER
Governor Abbott's anti-mask-mandate order (GA-38) should have been nixed by the state judiciary as invalid because it is contrary to the core purposes of the Texas Disaster Act upon which it is purportedly based. Alas, the Texas Supremes got in the way with a series of shadow-docket stay orders.
See Prof. Beal amicus and excellent briefing on behalf of Dallas County Judge Jenkins (chief executive, not judge) here:
https://search.txcourts.gov/Case.aspx?cn=05-21-00733-CV&coa=coa05
Also see recent opinion of the San Antonio Court of Appeals in
Greg Abbott v. City of San Antonio et al, No. 04-21-00342-CV (Tex.App. Nov. 10, 2021, no pet. h.)(affirming temporary injunction against enforcement)
https://search.txcourts.gov/Case.aspx?cn=04-21-00342-CV&coa=coa04
since when was the federal govt given the right to tell states how to run their govt schools? this disparate impact logic opens every interaction in society to some central planning bolshevik in dc to determine our lives. this judge clearly has little regard for decentralized govt
The Fed should coordinate among the States.
Equality laws intend to make things equal and uniform across the States.
.THIS IS A LOCAL ISSUE!!
These Schools ARE under authority of the State but want to play the Corporate game of having autonomy.
Worse they want autonomy from control and oversight by PARENTS. whom the entire system us OWNED.
QP: ONE GUBERNATORIAL STRAIGHT-JACKET FITS ALL ?
The issues with Gov. Abbott's GA-38 is the suspension of laws that authorize public health measures at the local level, thereby thwarting their custom disaster responses in their respective jurisdictions.
RE: These Schools ARE under authority of the State
That is true (ISDs, cities, counties are subject to state law and state law is higher-order and binding), but the Governor GA (executive branch, not Lege) abused his extraordinary emergency powers under the Texas Disaster Act (TDA) by endeavoring to SUSPEND the statutes under which the local governments operate.
"Because the Governor possesses no inherent authority to suspend statutes under the Texas Constitution and he exceeded the scope of statutory authority granted to him by the Legislature, his actions in issuing Executive Order GA-38 were done without authority. The trial court did not abuse its discretion by concluding that the City and County have a probable right of recovery on their ultra vires claim."
At least that's what the three lady justices in San Antonio concluded last week (cite and link supra), and they aren't the only ones. Also see In re Abbott, No. 05-21-00687-CV, 2021 WL 3610314 (Tex. App.—Dallas Aug. 13, 2021, orig. proceeding) (mem.op.) (denying Governor’s petition for writ of mandamus challenging trial court’s temporary restraining order enjoining certain portions of Executive Order GA-38 because county judge demonstrated probable right to relief on his claim that Governor did not have power to suspend Texas Disaster Act’s grant of authority to county judges to declare and manage local disasters under section 418.108);
We'll have to see what the ideologically uniform SCOTX (9 Republicans out of 9) does about it.
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