Military Drone Strike That Killed Afghan Aid Worker, Children Has Hallmarks of Intelligence Failure
An independent investigation hasn't turned up terrorist ties or explosives.

The evidence increasingly indicates that a U.S. drone strike that took place outside Kabul as America withdrew from Afghanistan killed not a terrorist but an aid worker, along with nine other civilians, including several children.
On August 29, the U.S. military launched a strike on what Central Command said was a vehicle transporting explosives on behalf of the Islamic State. According to the Pentagon, the target posed an "imminent" threat to the Kabul Airport. This was just days after suicide bombers killed at least 170 Afghans and 13 U.S. troops, and tensions were high.
A military spokesperson said there were "significant secondary explosions" as a result of the drone hit. Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called it a "righteous strike" that foiled a potential attack.
In reality, that strike hit a car that had been driven by humanitarian aid worker Zamari Ahmadi. Ahmadi was killed, along with two other adults and seven children. And follow-up media investigations are casting serious doubt on the military's account.
Credit both The New York Times and The Washington Post for reconstructing what actually happened. The Times has assembled an account of Ahmadi's final day, with the help of security surveillance footage, to show that what military intelligence may have assumed as suspicious behavior was Ahmadi's typical work. He worked for Nutrition and Education International, a California-based charity, and the sedan belonged to the organization. He is seen on camera loading the back of his white sedan with not explosives, but containers of water. The president of his group has denied that Ahmadi had any connections with the Islamic State.
Even more damning is what both the Post and the Times heard from experts analyzing the wreckage of the drone strike. Ahmadi's car was hit by a Hellfire missile with a 20-pound payload. The damage to the car and the courtyard where he was parked matched the amount of destruction associated with the missile, but the evidence that there were explosives in the car is sorely lacking. According to eyewitnesses, the "significant secondary explosions" did not take place.
The Washington Post commissioned an expert to write a 19-page analysis of the blast based on the evidence. In the Post's words, he concluded that "it was highly unlikely there was a substantial amount of explosives in the car and theorized fuel vapors may have played a role in a subsequent blast that appeared more destructive than it was." The explosion scorched the walls next to the car, but it would have destroyed it had other explosives been in the vehicle. Windows were blown out only in near proximity to the car.
The New York Times' put together a video detailing what its investigation uncovered: a discomfiting likelihood of a terrible intelligence failure. Ahmadi was allegedly under surveillance all day before the U.S. decided to launch the strike, but a source told the Times that the Americans had no knowledge that he had spent a chunk of the day filling bottles of water and loading them into the trunk of his car. They did not seem to know who he was, and they have yet to provide any evidence that Ahmadi has any terror ties. The drone strike seemed to have been carried out with about as much evidence that it would require for a police officer in the United States to get a search warrant.
The military was tracking communications it believed were from Islamic State terrorists. And the day after Ahmadi was killed, the Times reports, Islamic State terrorists did launch a rocket attack toward the airport from a neighborhood Ahmadi had traveled through the previous day. The vehicle they launched the attack from was a white Toyota, a sedan that looked a lot like Ahmadi's. Did they get the cars mixed up during surveillance? According to the Times, officials knew that Ahmadi's home was not the same address as the Islamic State safe house they were keeping tabs on.
We have no idea how frequently these types of seemingly mistaken strikes happen, partly because the military has been deliberately secretive and partly because what information we've gotten has not been trustworthy. Outside observers estimate that between 300 and 900 civilians killed by drone strikes in Afghanistan during the two decades Americans were there. There have been dozens, possibly even hundreds, of strikes like this.
And when whistleblower Daniel Hale leaked information showing how Washington was covering up evidence that these drone strikes were not as surgical as we were led to believe, the U.S. government prosecuted him. He was sentenced to 45 months in prison.
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The question is whether Biden called for a retaliatory attack or whether Biden had anything to do with approving the attack. If Biden had anything to do with it, then mistakes were made, it's a good thing we left, it's probably Trump's fault, and no further action needs to be taken.
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The entired Joint Chiefs of Staff should be fired.
Collateral damage.
Move along now - nothing to see.
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The left wing is a bunch of children, so he can't.
Burn!
Can we get a list of intelligence successes?
They missed the fall of the issr, and the Berlin wall,
They missed the 92 attacks on the world trade centers,
Missed the uss Cole bombing,
Missed China stealing pathogens from labs around the world,
Missed the 2001 wtc attacks
They missed the Boston bombing
The list is endless. Perhaps if they were less busy setting up autistic kids on bogus terrorist charges they may actually catch a real terrorist.
Ussr. Stupid big hands
I'd mention Benghazi but what difference, at this point, does that make?
Perfect.
I've been assured Roosevelt had no idea Pearl Harbor was happening.
Stopping Bojinka was a pretty good feat. Ditto things like Op. Sapphire.
(Stealing a Presidential Election is going to be the jewel in their crown though.)
Stuxnet, Suter...the problem is, if we're hearing about them before everyone involved has retired or died, they usually weren't successes.
Obvious statement is obvious.
He was sentenced to 45 months in prison.
I can't tell if this is appropriate or not until after he's come out as transgender.
Chelsea Manning is proof that women are more harshly treated by the justice system.
Who is trying to bury whom. Military trying to make Senile Joe look bad, CIA trying to make military look bad. Lots of detail in those articles, suspiciously so.
This is the federal government in a nutshell, the work is scam taxpayers out of trillions, take on new debt, throw people under the bus, repeat. You voted for it. You might want to consider alternatives now.
Neither.
This has all the hallmarks of a 'get something big we can splash in the news so we can derail the current news cycle'.
So they did. They dropped a missile (I don't know why, if they 'knew' explosives were in the vehicle, they didn't use the Hellfire-K) and, as standard operating procedure since the Obama administration, declared the deceased to be 'enemy combatants' based on their skin color, the declares 'hey, LOOK OVER THERE! we killed a turrurist!'
>>a U.S. drone strike ... as America withdrew from Afghanistan
were we withdrawing or striking?
Apparently neither.
when has there not been an intelligence failure.
It was a purely political killing. Didn't matter that there was no terrorist, politically Biden had to be seen doing something. And when government has to "do something!", it always turns out bad.
It has the hallmark of a failed president. Fuck Joe Biden and fuck you too for blame shifting.
Now the Times and Wapo are honest news? Fake news !
Military Drone Strike That Killed Afghani Aid Worker, Children Has Hallmarks of Intelligence Failure
So does Joe Biden.
Fake news.
"Intelligence Failure"? Is that Newspeak for "abject incompetence" now?
-jcr
It's code for "blame it on anyone but Joe Biden."
Outside observers estimate that between 300 and 900 civilians killed by drone strikes in Afghanistan
Buzzbuzzaks gonna buzzbuzzak.
Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called it a "righteous strike" that foiled a potential attack. Then he rewarded himself another row of ribbons.
The man's a war criminal.
The evidence increasingly indicates that a U.S. drone strike...killed not a terrorist but an aid worker, along with nine other civilians, including several children.
At long last Biden can step out of the shadows of Obama and be honored with his own Nobel Peace Prize. Apparently snuffing a few kids is a requirement. For too long Biden labored under the illusion it was "sniffing" a few kids.
Let us pray to Saint Babbitt.
May she watch over peaceful tourists everywhere, like this innocent worker who was murdered by Biden just like Ashli was.
Just like Ashli, the Evil Biden pulled the trigger and ended an innocent life just to spite Trump.
Now let us bow our heads.
"Dear Ashli, the innocent one. May you keep peaceful tourists safe from Biden and his minions. We know it didn't work out for you the first time, but maybe you can help the rest of the Trump faithful in their quest to Stop The Steal.
Amen."
Babbitt is in heaven, sitting next to George Floyd. I wonder what their conversation is like?
George Floyd had a rap sheet longer than a Beastie Boys album. You sure he's in heaven?
Well, we know Babbitt isn't, so scratch my previous.
Babbitt is in hell, sitting next to George Floyd. I wonder what their conversation is like?
"I'm just waiting here for the cop that killed me to show up."
I'll let you decide which one is saying that.
Heaven and hell are fictions created by men who imagine evil-doers in government see justice.
They don't.
Cops are no different than murderous soldiers employed by the Romans or the Taliban.
THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
Just thugs who get off on hurting people. Nothing more.
Just like my fan club who tries to say mean things. They'd cheerfully commit murder. Just like Nardz (who I believe has killed people).
*burp*
sarcasmic is so fucking wasted today. I wonder if he's going to claim he was hacked again?
sarcasmic needs Jesus. And evidence behind his claims too.
Hey Dildo. Ya boy droned a fucking family to try and get out from under the weight of 13 dead service members. Instead, he added the weight two more dead adults and nine fucking children.
There is nothing you can say to wash the stink off that, so your stupid ass brings up Ashli Babbit, as if one has anything to do with the other.
Cool story. Got any more?
Wow. You are a broken individual.
He's completely shitfaced today. I'm loving it.
He is broken. He finally found the first cop he supports.
Try finding quotes of mine to support your lies that I'm a leftist! Oh crap. Can't find any. Change the lie!
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Um, your initial statement here is more than sufficient. You have one heck of a narrative bubble going.
I feel bad for it. Like watching a rabid racoon in a trap trying to gnaw its own leg off.
Keep bleating "Babbitt" like a wounded animal. It's cute.
Hey sarc. Now's probably a perfect time to set us all straight about your ex and your daughter.
Oh, and maybe about how you used to get shuttled between your divorced parents and your life as a fry cook.
Really clear the air.
Dude, I was born a fry cook to divorced parents who got back together and suddenly my daughter fell out of the sky while I was still a virgin.
Can't you get anything right?
Great description.
For anyone paying attention, these are the type of over the horizon capabilities Sleepy Joe brags about.
And chances are, if we can even perform them (which isn't a given considering we have to get overflight permission from Pakistan) this won't be the last tragedy.
Speaking of Pakistan...they helped the Taliban clear out the Panjshir last week. https://www.opindia.com/2021/09/taliban-demolish-the-tomb-of-ahmad-shah-massoud-panjshir/amp/
Guess China's getting their road route through Afghanistan ahead of schedule... I'd thought the valley could've held out quite a bit longer, but it's got to be tough when two countries + the Taliban are digging you out, and the US isn't taking your calls anymore.
There's a lesson there, and our rapidly former allies are learning it. The USD is in gigantic shit in the next six months or less.
Wouldn't be surprised if Pakastani pilots were flying the helicopters that the Taliban captured. In 1951 radio intercepts of pilots talking proved definitively that Soviet pilots not Chinese or NoKo pilots were flying the MiGs the USAF was fighting against. Truman (and Eisenhower after him) hid this information to prevent an expansion of the war. In 1965, the USAF and USN had similar proof that the MiGs being flown over North Vietnam were similarly crewed by Soviet pilots. Again, to prevent an expansion of Vietnam, Johnson hid this information. Nixon followed suit.
We should have handled both of those wars much differently. At least we finally killed Soleimani, who was orchestrating much of the same thing in Iraq.
'Colonel Toon' ended up getting debunked, right? Free practice for PVO-Stratny, all those years. And they disappeared so many SAC guys in the process.
Anyway, now to do the Soleimani kill on his ISI counterpart...
It was standard practices if the NVAF to have multiple pilots assigned to the same aircraft and award victory stars to the aircraft rather than the pilot. Because of this practice (awarding victories to aircraft rather than pilots) it's hard to ascertain rather any NV pilot became an ace. Most likely Col. Toon never existed, but his aircraft, tail number 3020, did exist, reportedly had 17 victory stars, and was shot down by the USN in 1971.
You know, the saga was so long I almost forgot about Massoud. And how we were probably involved in his death. And how that probably wasn’t such a good idea in the long run. Like all of it.
Hmm. Rereading the details he was killed by suicide bombers. Not sure where I got the sense that the US were involved. Was probably reading Noam Chomsky or some shit 20 years ago…
Again, the Taliban were likely the ones giving us the targeting coordinates. In a bit of cosmic hilarity, I really wonder if it was from the list of American citizens, SIV applicants/holders, and other US protectees, that the State Department helpfully compiled and provided to the Taliban towards the end of the evacuation.
"The evidence increasingly indicates that a U.S. drone strike that took place outside Kabul as America withdrew from Afghanistan killed not a terrorist but an aid worker, along with nine other civilians, including several children."
And then everyone got medals. And nothing else happened.
This do sound like it has legs, even WAPO the DIM rag says so....the need for a heroic payback to score a kudo for Joe Bidet may have again blew up(no Pun intended) in his face and I wonder who will take the brunt for the rush to kill intel?????....Joe's new book is coming out, How to Claim the WH and Still Be a Idiot.....or MY Bad!
Being Elected by Dummies for Dummies. It is a coloring book.
So murdering an aid worker for no reason is an "intelligence failure" but killing the Iranian commander in charge of terrorist attacks against America is a totally unwarranted attack and the start of World War 3. Totally unbiased reporting perspective there Reason.
Anything to support the Blue Bozo.
That's what Charles Koch is paying them for.
If it wasn't for double standards Reason would have no standards.
Yes, that means you Shackford, you hack weasel.
"The evidence increasingly indicates that a U.S. drone strike ... killed not a terrorist but an aid worker, along with nine other civilians, including several children."
Hey, Joe! was in a bind and need a "look tough" distraction so this was his "Hey, look, a squirrel—boom!" answer. Now it's a "That was a long time ago, move on, I have." moment.
Everyone is complementing the return to normal and has full faith in the federal government. BTW, the US is heading to default on treasury bonds in October- normal
I do the Chicken Little thing way too often here, but I really do see the USD's buying power going over the falls, really, really soon. The only thing saving its ass overseas is, what replaces it? The yuan? LOL. People are desperate, but they're not so desperate as to believe Chinese banking numbers. Not the Euro. So what will?
A healthy economy would have had no problem dumping the various moratoriums, not instead trying to extend them.
When politicians and global unelected bureaucrats call themselves Socialists-Marxist, publish Marxist literature on their websites, I tend to believe them. I’m weird like that.
"Has Hallmarks of Intelligence Failure"
Yep, Biden's intelligence, along with all of his other mental faculties are failing fast.
Oh wait.
You were trying to pretend the whole thing wasn't just staged agitprop intended to make Biden look competent and forceful, weren't you?
What's half a dozen or so dead innocent civilians when there is a dog to be wagged...
It’s completely disgusting and despicable. Will the real NAZI administration please stand up. I’m sure impeachment hearings will begin and unanimously vote to remove him.
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1437508685316624393?s=19
"Biden Admin’s John Kirby: 'I cannot confirm” who we killed in the drone strike but 'the strike was taken to prevent an imminent attack on the airport.'” https://t.co/ogpKWyPLD7
This is how you know they fucked up. They still won't confirm who they killed. If it were a confirmed ISIS militant, they'd be crowing about it. Instead, John Kirby is dodging questions.
I have no idea how you live your life as John Kirby, day after day covering for a murderously inept adminstration, and not go home one of these days and eat a bullet.
All these people are sociopaths.
Two drone strikes that they won't release the names of who were killed. Don't the usually crow from the rooftops when the nuke an actual goatfucker we were after?
Now it turns out that at least one of the drone strikes takes out a US allied Said worker? How much you want to bet that the other one just took out some random goatfuckers hotrodding it in their Toyota?
Oh, by the way in another list of blue collar jobs Joe claims to have had: today he claimed he had interviewed with Boise-Cascade Lumber Co. and he almost moved to Idaho after being offered the job. Boise-Cascade officials say they had no record of any application from Joe Biden.
I'm sure he interviewed to be a big rig operator, since he had experience doing that after he befriended Corn-Pop.
Fucking predictive text. US aid worker.
But he lies within acceptable parameters.
I read someone today that said Trump would say he had a dollar in his pocket and the media would label him a liar because he only had $0.99. But Biden lies about what jobs he has has, where he finished in law school, about plagiarizing a speech, about getting Americans out of Afghanistan, about visiting the Tree of Life synagogue and not a peep.
And in another instance of the bizarre world that is the Joe Biden presidency, Biden was taking questions today and his staff cut off the feed halfway through one of his sentences without explanation.
It is pretty much excepted fact that Reagan was starting to suffer from symptoms of Alzheimer's at the end of his second term, but I never saw this occur in his presidency.
*accepted
Nancy was a hell of a lot more competent than Dr. Jill. Plus, everyone was more competent at their jobs. And fewer media outlets to potentially leak Reagan's condition.
Still got Iran-Contra out of it, but we never saw Reagan as a hand puppet (Spitting Image aside), like we see with Biden.
Intelligence Failure, Seriously?