Let Afghan Refugees Work
Don't let licensing requirements stand in their way.

Incompetence, political weakness, and fearmongering about foreigners in search of a new home have created a cruel immigration policy. But this structural cruelty pales in comparison to the comments made by some legislators who tout their opposition to welcoming Afghan refugees to our shores after many of these refugees put their lives on the line for two decades by helping American soldiers in that war-torn country.
Thankfully, some state governors are breaking ranks with the nativists and have announced that they will welcome the Afghan refugees. "They supported our military efforts and served as translators, interpreters, drivers and more — and were instrumental in our nation's operations and the safety of U.S. soldiers," observed Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey. "They helped our fight to defeat terrorist organizations and defend human rights, and now their lives are in danger." Good for him.
At the risk of coming across as ungrateful, it would also be nice to see Arizona do one more thing: Treat the refugees just like any other workers in the state. This could include extending the governor's signature reform on occupational licensing to these immigrant and refugee professionals. In April 2019, Ducey signed Arizona's universal recognition law, which allows professionals and workers licensed in other states to quickly obtain an equivalent license when they move to Arizona. This reform lifts much of the counterproductive bureaucracy and red tape associated with getting a license to work.
Now, that doesn't mean that once you get to Arizona you can open up shop without having to meet any requirements. But for the most part, a person who moves to Arizona with an out-of-state license will be regarded as licensed after some paperwork, verification and maybe a test on state-specific laws and policies. This light and expedient process dispenses with the alleged safety theatrics associated with most low-skill licensing requirements. It also puts those who move to Arizona with skills and know-how to work quickly.
Unfortunately, this universal recognition doesn't apply to immigrants or refugees. It means that those who settle in Arizona will be allowed to work, but unlike Arizonans and those who just moved to Arizona from other states, immigrants must go through the burdensome and often useless occupational licensing process to get their credentials recognized and perform their previous occupation.
Extensive academic literature on the issue shows that unfortunately, this burden often means that these professional immigrants or workers end up either unemployed or underemployed. This barrier to employment is not just unfair, it also hinders economic mobility of those immigrants along with economic growth in those states. Everyone except industry incumbents loses.
A tireless advocate for occupational licensing reform, the R Street Institute's Shoshana Weissmann recognizes the need to fix this problem. "It's been wonderful to see states follow Arizona's lead after Governor Ducey enacted universal licensing recognition," she told me. "There is so much more to do for those moving from one state to another or from another country to ours. When we put arbitrary restrictions on what jobs immigrants can perform and what credentials transfer here, we prevent people from having access to all kinds of services and prevent immigrants from succeeding."
She observes that legislators have noticed, too. During the pandemic, some states—including New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts—let immigrant doctors and foreign medical school graduates work to varying degrees for brief periods. This model needs to be expanded dramatically.
Weissmann points to a recent attempt in Missouri to change the way that state treats foreign-trained doctors. She writes, "Missouri state Rep. Derek Grier…introduced House Bill 1211, which would allow physicians trained in other countries to work in the U.S. if certain conditions are met." The conditions are simple, she continues, explaining that they require evidence that the physician "graduated from an international medical program that provided 'substantially similar' training to that required to practice in Missouri, be in good standing with their country's licensing board, and have completed their residency in a qualified international medical program."
The Missouri bill didn't pass, though it enjoyed a fair amount of bipartisan support, which indicates that a growing number of people recognize that change is needed. Ducey has been a leader in occupational reform and is now standing up against nativists' fearmongering. Will he see the need to extend universal recognition to immigrants and lead on this front, too?
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"Let Afghan Refugees Work"
I really appreciate how unapologetic Koch-funded libertarians are about the fact that they view Brown bodies primarily as cost-effective labor.
#OpenTheBordersToHelpCharlesKoch
It would help your schtick if you knew Afghanis are Caucasians. But then again maybe it won't since you're parodying prog-libertarian talking points and most prog seem not to know Afghanis are Caucasians, and it seems most of them assume all Muslims must be brown people.
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Any time you hear the words "cheap labor", you can be pretty sure it means, "Your descendants are going to be paying through the nose for this. In perpetuity.".
So what would you have the refugees do Dumbo?
Lie around, doing nothing, and be a drain on the country perhaps?
Maybe we could start out by having Afghans write prescriptions for us, to give us permission to blow on cheap plastic flutes? Simply require that said Afghans understand what a "cheap plastic flute" is, and how to blow on it (so that they could help us if we need advice on how to use such a deadly Medical Implement of Death and Destruction), and then (WITHOUT a fancy degree in Doctorologist of Doctorology), give us said permission!
(Maybe we could also allow native-born American grade-school children to do the same for us, but I don't want to get TOO radical here!)
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A dispensation not granted to any American either in the US or in any country around the world.
It seems we've become the world's trash heap.
Irish need not apply.
buckleup: discrimination! unfair! See, whites faced racism too!
Afghans want to not be beheaded in retribution for working for Americans.
buckleup: eww trash heap people. not our problem.
How many will be staying at your house?
Funny you say that, since I have hosted one of my interpreters previously. I have volunteered here: https://www.lirs.org/ , and will take as many as I am asked to.
One is not enough.
A few hundred might help a bit to soothe your conscience.
And I'm putting hours in currently on hold lines with fuckin state department and filling out endless form after form of the same information for my two guys still stuck there.
What have you ever done for your country, let alone foreigners?
Americans are now second class territorial residents in our own country thanks to democrats, and RINOs.
Standing in line and filling in forms for someone else makes you feel all warm and fuzzy does it?
You know you're only making yourself feel better?
You have almost no real-world impact at all.
I say we let themnpravtice law without a licemse. Let the stonings and mutilations begin!
Well, if Sidney has a license to practice law, and try to replace democracy with mobocracy, by using the Big Lie (in court!), then why not?
https://reason.com/2021/03/23/sidney-powell-says-shes-not-guilty-of-defamation-because-no-reasonable-person-would-have-believed-her-outlandish-election-conspiracy-theory/
Sidney Powell Says She’s Not Guilty of Defamation Because ‘No Reasonable Person’ Would Have Believed Her ‘Outlandish’ Election Conspiracy Theory
Which particular lies are we-all wanting to hear and believe today (in COURT yet, at that!), I wonder!
would be interesting to see if the Crazy Ivan defense would work.
I once worked with a Russian physician who fled the USSR. But he was never able to get an MD from the United States. So he worked menial labor in testing. He wasn't too depressed, and was happy he escaped the Soviet Union, but I always thought it was a raw deal. Someone who is fully qualified as a physician, but who would have to get a medicial degree all over again, including the schooling, before starting a grueling residency. At the age of sixty.
Surely there's an abbreviated path to a license to practice medicine? I don't mean a simple rubberstamp of an foreign license, but one shouldn't have to spend an additional four years of their life just to transfer a skillset from one nation to another.
Now we have Afghans who sweated and bled for the US who can't even braid someone's hair without people whining that they need to go to cosmetology college first.
Canada has a similar law. Brazilian surgeons who emigrate there cannot practice surgery, but are happy nonetheless to escape to somewhere where only one job (rather than production and trade in general) is not an option. The brain drain helps entrench the looter kleptocracy that caused the surgeons to flee in the first place.
They should be free to get right into setting up a local branch of the taliban.
Hopefully in your neighborhood.
Ignorant racists never change.
You don’t think the taliban is sending some of its members to get on the airplanes?
No. Maybe ISIS-K, but I don't know enough about them to make any thing better than a halfway educated guess.
I hear the blank visas State sent out are easily photocopied.
Taliban is not a race.
I don't think Taliban really gives a shit about international reach.
ISIS and al queda are definitely sending in "refugees"
You ever ask yourself why he couldn't get an MD certification in the US?
You think it might be because the medical standards in the USSR were so low that it would be like giving someone the right to commit serial murder?
Fuckin' collaborators, they're even invading Mexico.
Afghanistan is not sending us their best.
Evacuation is probably going to be stopped now.
Thousands of Americans are going to be completely abandoned.
You got your tense wrong. They were abandoned weeks ago.
By democrats,
Biden was always going to sacrifice them.
Wrong.
4 dead marines.
*at least 10 Americans killed
Still wrong.
12
It’s getting more complicated now that Kabul is suffering under suicide bombings.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/explosion-outside-kabul-airport-afghanistan-evacuation
So much more horror to come, thanks to Biden and his incompetent administration.
Incompetence, biological weakness, and fearmongering about brood parasites in search of a new home have created a cruel exclusionary policy directed against cuckoos and cowbirds. Why should brood parasites build their own nests and raise their own young instead of invading the nests of selfish wrens and isolationist larks and thrushes and tossing those eggs onto the ground?
No exceptions. Either enforce the silly-ass regulations against everyone, of drop them completely.
EQUAL justice under the law; not race based rule by bureaucrats.
Ah, mystical conservatives are still keeping Gleichschaltung alive.
can they cook? we got fifty busloads of Ethiopians in Dallas near me and the local restaurant quality immediately improved.
Some may end up working for ISIL.
Is that similar to ISIS?
It's exactly the same thing.
Just another acronym.
Sign me up for that Afghani heart surgeon.
My doc is Iraqi.
Haven't had to go to her for anything too complicated, but I've kept her as my primary even though she's in ATL because she's the first doctor I've had I ever liked and trusted.
There's obviously a difference between Iraqis and Afghans, of course.
Good on you. And you are right, Iraq has functioning universities, Afghanistan has not for a long time. There are very few qualified surgeons in Afghanistan, and I believe all of them get their training abroad, mostly in Pakistan.
The highest tech Afghan trauma hospital was in Kandahar when I was there. It still looked like something from a horror movie.
How about we hire them to track down and beat the living shit out of every libertarian they can get their hands on? 100 beaten libertarians gets you a green card, a thousand gets you citizenship. I can't think of a deal any fairer than that!
Just set them lose at the following sites.
5737 Mesmer Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90230
1747 Connecticut Ave NW
Washington, DC 20009
He said libertarians. There aren't any of those at the addresses listed.
One little problem with your little attempt at an anti-libertarian pogrom: I'm no longer resistered to vote and even when I was, I was registered as "Unaffiliated."
Anyone hunting libertarians as their taxidermic trophy will be hard-pressed to find me and harder-pressed if they do.
Since 9/11/2001, anything I'm wearing or not wearing is my uniform and anything and everything on hand or in the room is a weapon as far as I'm concerned. NRA members may have an ammo shortage, but I don't.
You sure live up to your handle because you are unequalled in stupidly tipping your hand and telegraphing your moves.
Interesting that if the person was not a refugee we might recruit them to come to this country to fill empty positions for medical and technical work. But as they are refugees we don't want to do the same.
Ignorant nativists and racists are gonna knee jerk. If they thought about things they wouldn't be ignorant nativists and racists.
Your purity of heart is a true inspiration.
No requirement for purity of heart. Just the ability to think logically and understand things from others' perspectives.
Yes, you are the only one with a brain, yet you are saddled with two refugees that you are desperately and unsuccessfully trying to be rid of.
Be rid of? I'm trying to get them out of harm's way.
At this point, I don't think you could be any more dishonest. Doesn't say much for the quality of your arguments.
Well, as you are dishonest yourself, you would know.
"Ignorant nativists and racists are gonna knee jerk"
"Just the ability to think logically and understand things from others’ perspectives"
Yes. I can look at something from another's point of view and determine that they are selfish, fearful, malignant people who are deluded by common biases, ignorance, and a greatly inflated sense of self importance.
Understanding others' point of view does not mean you cannot judge. I'm not a leftist in any sense, including no fondness for relativism, no matter how often you would like to believe so.
Can you look in a mirror and see an idiot?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-allies-halt-evacuations-kabul-airport-over-another-imminent-isis-threat
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1430947583137140742?t=jIBsfYemOY_CFYPQLS_wRg&s=19
JUST IN - U.S. State Department goes into hiding and cancels today’s briefing.
They ought to be writing their resignations.
https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1430914653165604865?t=97ACMDuJwMvI6Ppjes5qcA&s=19
NEW: Source briefed on the situation in Kabul tells me “hundreds of ISIS-K in the vicinity, attacks likely to continue”
https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/status/1430920972178178062?t=48Oomdiw2t_3W1blesW6MA&s=19
20 YEARS- FYI there have been terrorist suicide bombers killing civilians nearly DAILY in Afghanistan. This ain’t new. It’s why we are leaving. #DealWithIt
Our government with the bestest most well equipped professional military ever. They are battle experienced. The top in the world.
Cannot even manage an orderly retreat.
As of this minute the paratroopers, whomever we got, should be on the way to Afghanistan to establish safe perimeters for the evacuation. This we can do. To think the Taliban would cover the retreat by negotiation is stupidity beyond belief.
What a betrayal of this country. What a stinking rat ship we have built.
*YOU built
Biden and his entire administration should be removed over this. With many of them sent to prison. Including Biden and Harris.
Oh wow, what a good idea!.
More cheap labor to undercut the American working class!
More affirmative action hires to displace citizens!
More recruits for the one party vote harvesting schemes!
Once again, Reason fulfills its historical role as spokescritter for the oligarchy.
No, no, you can't say that.
Most fools don't want to think that way - although that is exactly what's going to happen.
Either take away somebody's job or become a parasite living off the Government.
Doesn't make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside - helping poor, underprivileged refugees you know.
"Let Afghan Refugees Work"
Really?
Here's an example of why that is nonsense:
So how, exactly, is someone who translated Pashtun into English going to work in the US?
Massive demand for that service is there?
You mean most of those people will become jobless and a drain on the country or they do work a US citizen can do?
Standing in line and filling in forms for someone else makes you feel all warm and fuzzy does it?
You know you're only making yourself feel better?
You have almost no real-world impact at all.