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California Judge Overturns Voter Initiative That Said Gig Workers Aren't Always Employees

Plus: You can't FOIA politicians' browser histories, Pentagon compels commercial airlines to evacuate Afghan refugees, and more...

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Judge invalidates vote on gig economy drivers. Alameda County Superior Court Judge Frank Roesch says that Proposition 22, a pro–gig economy ballot initiative passed last fall, is unconstitutional since it interferes with the state legislature's ability to set rules around workers' compensation and collective bargaining.

Proposition 22 came in the wake of the California legislature passing Assembly Bill 5, a job-killing measure that forced all sorts of companies to classify independent contractors as employees with all the benefits and regulatory obligations the label entails. Proposition 22—passed by 58 percent of voters last November—let gig economy drivers and the companies that employ them get out of this.

But what California voters want with regard to companies like Uber, Lyft, Instacart, and DoorDash apparently doesn't matter much in the Golden State.

In a Friday ruling, Roesch held that Proposition 22 unconstitutionally limited "the power of a future legislature to define app-based drivers as workers subject to workers' compensation law." He held "that the entirety of Proposition 22 is unenforceable."

"If the people wish to use their initiative power to restrict or qualify a 'plenary' and 'unlimited' power granted to the legislature, they must first do so by initiative constitutional amendment, not by initiative statute," Roesch wrote.

"We believe the judge made a serious error by ignoring a century's worth of case law requiring the courts to guard the voters' right of initiative," said Geoff Vetter, a spokesperson for the Protect App-Based Drivers & Services (PADS) Coalition. "This outrageous decision is an affront to the overwhelming majority of California voters."

"We will file an immediate appeal and are confident the Appellate Court will uphold Prop 22," PADS said in a statement.

Uber also said it will appeal the ruling. Noah Edwardsen, an Uber spokesperson, told Bloomberg the judge's decision "ignores the will of the overwhelming majority of California voters and defies both logic and the law. Meanwhile, Prop 22 remains in effect, including all of the protections and benefits it provides independent workers across the state."

Veena Dubal, a professor at the University of California, Hastings College of Law, told Bloomberg that this marks an "important first decision in what will end up being a very consequential legal battle," noting that "there's not a lot of case law here to draw on" when it comes to the issues in this case.


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You can't FOIA politicians' browser histories. A new ruling in Cause of Action Institute v. OMB says Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests don't apply to internet histories of individual federal officials because they are not agency records. "Interestingly enough, the court's reasoning suggests that the outcome could change were a federal agency to exercise greater control over government officials' internet browsing histories, such as by limiting the ability of individual officials to delete or modify their histories," writes Jonathan H. Adler at The Volokh Conspiracy. "I would not expect that to happen, however. Under the assumption that most federal agencies try to resist FOIA most of the time (a safe, if ungenerous, general assumption about agency behavior), the decision is also likely to dissuade agencies from adopting policies that could make internet browsing histories subject to FOIA in the future."


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The Biden administration is compelling commercial airlines to transport people out of Afghanistan. "The current activation is for 18 aircraft: three each from American Airlines, Atlas Air, Delta Air Lines and Omni Air; two from Hawaiian Airlines; and four from United Airlines," said the Pentagon in a statement.

"Civilian planes would not fly into or out of Kabul, where a rapidly deteriorating security situation has hampered evacuation flights," The New York Times reports. "Instead, commercial airline pilots and crews would help transport thousands of Afghans who are arriving at U.S. bases in Bahrain, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates."


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  1. You can’t FOIA politicians’ browser histories.

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  3. Biden’s polling going south like a duck in winter

    The IC and military are throwing him under the bus

    Meanwhile Disney is premiering more lifelike and intelligent animatronics. Sleep Joe’s figure in the Hall of Presidents didn’t make the cut.

    1. “The IC and military are throwing him under the bus”

      Even if Biden doesn’t plan on firing anybody over this fucking disaster? https://www.axios.com/bidens-blinders-afghanistan-national-security-team-476bce43-736c-4da5-94b3-4de307d45394.html

      Some gratitude…

      1. I would guess that the communities are throwing him under the bus because of that decision. If you don’t like the captain, spring some leaks and sink his boat.

        1. Agreed; this clusterfuck demonstrates, once again, Biden’s colossal ineptitude and stupidity. And his inability to take responsibility for his actions. All of which have been obvious for his entire career. There is no reason the IC, the military, his cabinet should take the fall if Biden made the decision after ignoring briefings and intelligence.

          1. I was thinking more along these lines. If Biden won’t get his hands dirty then their own underlings will work to make their continued presence untenable.

            Press reports say that they warned Biden against a total withdrawal. If true, good for them. But so did everyone who knows something about Afghanistan and isn’t committed to liquidating “forever wars” come what may. Once Biden made the call, it was their job to ensure it didn’t devolve into an emergency with our troops in dangerously constrained circumstances and forced to wait for Americans and Afghans to make their way to them through Taliban checkpoints.

            They failed — miserably. The idea that we had to send back thousands of troops to Afghanistan after pulling them out in order to mount a desperate rearguard evacuation should be indictment enough.

            1. This. I hate Biden but this catastrophe transcends one man’s ability to fuck shit up. This is beyond even his administration.

              The deep state is throwing under the bus because they are going to be held accountable for their incompetence.

              1. There is an article out in the Hill stating Bidens WH has no dissenting voices. That his aides refuse to highlight counter arguments. That kind of environment fosters these types of fuck ups. It is a large part on Biden.

                Yes. The career unelected machine is at fault. But it is the fact they are largely sycophantic to democrats that is allowing this execution to occur. The deep state doesn’t sit back if this happens under Trump. Here they act in unison with a unitary executive.

                1. I just keep picturing Biden when he was advocating against the hit on Bin Laden during Obo administration. What a tool. Wrong again.

                  1. Biden likely wasn’t read completely in on exactly what the OBL Raid involved. Given my guess about the information he had, I’d probably not be in favor of the Raid as advertised either. As advertised, it very easily could have led to a serious war between India and Pakistan (not the slapfights they periodically indulge in), and that war had a decent chance of going nuclear.

                    So as much as I detest the bullying, corrupt, sexually abusive, and perhaps pedophilic piece of demented shit currently in the Oval Office, I can’t get on him for that.

                    1. You have to go in, but it really wasn’t as easy a call as it appears in retrospect.
                      You’re invading Pakistan, an ostensible ally, to hit a semi-fortified compound/house within a mile of Pakistan’s version of Westpoint. A lot can go wrong there, and the fallout of American or Pakistani soldiers happening to die in such an incident would be significant.
                      Then, you’re not sure if it really is bin laden there.
                      So say you’re 50/50 on whether it’s him, you might have to take the shot, but you don’t feel great about it. Just think of all the bitching Reason does when cops search the wrong house, only this is another country and there’s a pile of bodies.
                      Though I’m guessing they were better than 50/50 on if it was him there.

                    2. Nah, Nardz. OBL was sold out. Not really worried about him, or his stand-in, not being there.

                      The concern is, Abbottabad is what, 90 miles from India? And it’s where Pakistan’s elite have estates, including their C2 and their version of an NCA for their strategic arms. If I’m Pakistan, and I hear about commandos raiding in that area, I’m not thinking USA. I’m thinking India trying to get the drop on me, and decapitate any ability I have to respond. Compressed battle space, potential use-it-or-lose-it concerns, and some really bad things could have started. All the while, India would be thinking, WTF?! Are they trying to sneak attack us?!

                      Deconfliction for something like this would have to be a gigantic concern. And it probably wasn’t something Joe was read into. I mean, why would you?

              2. Getting thrown under the bus was always Biden’s fate. He was selected because he’s an easily disposable prop, though they probably would’ve preferred to use it on some domestic policy.
                I’m extremely skeptical that anyone will be held accountable.
                And unintentional incompetence in execution of withdrawal is still just a hypothesis.

              3. The deep state is throwing under the bus because they are going to be held accountable for their incompetence.

                That’s highly optimistic. The deep state never gets held accountable for any of their fuckups. They’re the primary reason we have this overweening security state to begin with, and they’ve been providing the companies who provide it with venture capital for 25 years now.

                You’re precisely correct that this goes beyond just Biden and his team’s ineptitude. This is the end game of what happens 1) when you prioritize diversity over competence, and 2) change your military operation mid-stream from “catch this guy and kill him,” into some grand social engineering experiment dreamed up by a class of venal, overeducated think-tank goons for whom “let’s you and him fight” is a generations-long fetish.

                1. I mostly agree, and most of the problem was me typing on my phone. I meant that they *feared* being held accountable.

                  Where I disagree however is in saying that this is the result of prioritizing diversity over competence. That Woke bullshit is a symptom, not a cause. The cause is government, period. Government has always been an accumulation point of incompetence and scope creep. It is why the CDC now studies gun deaths and alcohol consumption. It is why the ATF sent guns to mexican cartels. It is why Afghanistan turned into a nation building exercise.

                  You cannot fix government, you can only decrease its size and scope to the maximum amount possible in order to decrease the number of fuckups it can inflict on you and yours, and also in order to decrease the incentive that private business has to crony up to it.

                  1. I really wish someone could come up with a politically realistic way of making our civil service more effective and accountable. It has been failure after failure for over a decade.

                    They might have similar institutional biases in other countries, but surely they’re not so mind-numbingly awful at execution as they are here?

                    1. I’m not sure how politically realistic it is, but abolishing government unions would be a great start.

                    2. For over a decade, huh? Youre in your 20s aren’t you?

                    3. Mid/late 30s. I’m as pessimistic as anybody about our bureaucrats, but they never seemed so helpless, hopeless, and haughtily invincible in my youth the way they are today. I’d like to be pleasantly surprised once in a while.

                      I’m not sure how politically realistic it is, but abolishing government unions would be a great start.

                      Exactly my point. There would have to be a Democratic administration that gets fed up with the bullshit for this to be at all durable. But the incentives aren’t there. We’d be more likely to pick the President and cabinet by lot.

                  2. The cause is government, period. Government has always been an accumulation point of incompetence and scope creep. It is why the CDC now studies gun deaths and alcohol consumption. It is why the ATF sent guns to mexican cartels. It is why Afghanistan turned into a nation building exercise.

                    I’d say it’s less the incompetency of government, and more the inevitable results of an increasingly complex society, combined with a technocratic governing paradigm that’s been in place at least since Teddy Roosevelt. There’s been the idea for a long time that a society can be ideally managed by predictable scientific principles, to the point that we can manipulate nature itself as long as we have the right “formulas” to do so. That’s how we got a slew of concrete and earthfill dams across the American West to store water, irrespective of whether that was the right thing to do for the ecology of the watersheds themselves. It’s why we think we can completely eradicate a novel coronavirus that’s already on its 7th or 8th mutation by now.

                    There’s been speculation, and I don’t recall where I read this, that the Roman Empire degraded and finally fell apart not necessarily due to a lack of will to keep it going, but because the Empire simply couldn’t produce an elite capable of maintaining its dynamism anymore. The thesis is basically that Rome’s elite simply became too stupid to keep things humming.

                    I think we’re seeing a lot of that now. Democratizing college education and trying to shove as many people in to the higher ed diploma machines as possible has created a class of people who think they’re smart and believe they’re entitled to the sweet life because of that degree, but in reality are actually quite dumb about anything that doesn’t conform to the preconcieved biases about How Things Ought To Be. I think it was you who pointed out that DC is full of these types, overeducated dolts who migrate to think tanks and NGO lobbyist groups, and don’t have any real-world experience outside of their very narrow existence in the DC cocktail class.

                    1. China hopes to get around this problem of elite degradation by outsourcing its technocracy to actual technology. I wonder how long that lasts.

            2. And why did we have to send troops in to evacuate Americans?

              #marketfailure

        2. “If you don’t like the captain, spring some leaks and sink his boat.”

          If you like your Afghanistan War, and do NOT like the pending war with East-Asia, you can KEEP your Afghanistan War!

        1. One of the few lawmakers actively talking about the Afghanistan developments at the time was Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, a longtime advocate for withdrawing U.S. troops. He had taken to the Senate floor on Tuesday to pre-emptively defend Biden and assert that the Taliban’s surge was in fact a reason to stay the course with the pullout.

          “The complete, utter failure of the Afghan National Army, absent our hand-holding, to defend their country is a blistering indictment of a failed 20-year strategy predicated on the belief that billions of U.S taxpayer dollars could create an effective, democratic central government in a nation that has never had one,” Murphy said.

          Lawmakers began discussing the Taliban’s gains among themselves on the Senate floor late into Wednesday, but neither party allowed it to overshadow their economic policy efforts.

          Rep. Michael Waltz (R-Fla.), the first Green Beret to serve in Congress and one of the earliest and loudest voices pushing for evacuations of Afghan allies, was in constant communication with officials tied to Afghan President Ashraf Ghani. Even as the Taliban were taking huge swaths of territory by Wednesday, Waltz said Afghan forces believed “they could turn it around” as long as the U.S. kept providing air support.

          That support wasn’t enough as the Afghan military laid down their arms en masse. In an interview, Waltz described the tepid air support as “putting a band-aid on a sucking chest wound.”

          1. You can already see some of what is going to happen here – the logistics/planning of this evacuation failure is going to instead be conflated with the very idea of ever withdrawing from anywhere. ‘Nonintervention’ will once again be called isolationism. Since no one is going to have any counterfactual plan for what could have happened – and since noninterventionists will offer zero real situational knowledge, the same shitheads who got us into this mess will be promoted. Maybe with a bipartisan commission along the lines of the 9/11 commission to see how much extra money they can spend to build a deeper septic tank.

            1. Once the evacuation plays out it’ll be harder for them to hide their “failed 20 year strategy”.

              1. I don’t see anyone who will even try to hold anyone accountable. Beyond the partisan/careerist DeRp bs that only tries to hold the other DeRp ‘accountable’ while their Derp skates away.

            2. Even worse, the complete clusterfuck of US Foreign Policy is being used to justify more adventurism.

              Just the other day I read an article by some wonk arguing that by demonstrating our complete incompetence in Afghanistan, we have emboldened China and Russia. And therefore the only thing we can do to improve things is to offer military aid to Uzbekistan, where the Chinese and Russians have been investing money.

              FFS! First set aside that these assholes think that the only response to Chinese investment is boots on the ground in those countries. But the fact that they think our tendency to consider other countries’ back yards as places to pick a fight with them (even a low intensity fight) is just bizarro-world nonsense.

              1. That’s not a surprise. There is a need for ‘wonks’ as a group of people who spend their careers trying to acquire knowledge about other places. Can’t base a foreign policy on ignorance.

                Problem is that one approach to foreign policy – nonintervention – is rhetorically at least rationalized on ignorance – ‘we don’t know how to intervene therefore we shouldn’t’. But that rationalization means that the most knowledgeable wonks are never going to be non-interventionist because that approach poohs-poohs their own knowledge.

                Instead nonintervention needs to be rationalized on the basis of – we KNOW that A B C D interventions can’t possibly work as well as L M non-interventions. THAT is what can pull the most knowledgeable wonks into the nonintervention camp. Even if it doesn’t do a damn thing re US elections.

                1. Yes I have said before that much of the reason these adventures self-perpetuate is that government will give people jobs studying (say) Ukraine. There is no way a government bureaucrat is going to say, “You know, the answer is to shut down my department, lay me and my colleagues off, and unsubscribe to the Ukraine Today Think Tank Newsletter.”

                  No they always think that their knowledge can steer us through- to say otherwise is to directly attack their self worth.

            3. “You can already see some of what is going to happen here – the logistics/planning of this evacuation failure is going to instead be conflated with the very idea of ever withdrawing from anywhere.”

              And those who share as much responsibility as anybody for that are the people bitching about “nitpicking” how it’s unfolding – those who say all that matters is withdrawal, so it doesn’t matter how it was executed.
              They are guiltiest of all in conflating withdrawal with how it’s going, which would seem to be the exact opposite of their intent.

              1. Maybe. But I think the real issue is more –
                Do you want this current situation – as it exists now – to succeed (pull out civilians and Afghan allies) – or do you want it to fail (and ensure political/electoral blame is cleanly attached)?

                Accountability can always come later. But if you really are ok with American civilians and Afghan allies dying in order to make an electoral point then you are evil.

                1. Do you want this current situation – as it exists now – to succeed (pull out civilians and Afghan allies) – or do you want it to fail (and ensure political/electoral blame is cleanly attached)?

                  It’s not an either/or except in your Biden-fellating worldview. The non-interventionists had a negotiated and binding plan. Biden, without a plan, tossed it out the window and you and your shit-for-brains take suggests that non-interventionists are the ones with no plan and no situational knowledge despite the fact that there’s every indication that their knowledge and wisdom was far better than the interventionist leading the clusterfuck. Get tossed off a roof fuckhead.

                  1. The non-interventionists had a negotiated and binding plan.

                    JFC. You people are so fucking stupid it is unbelievable. An agreement with the Taliban is not a plan to withdraw civilians and Afghan allies. A date is not a plan to withdraw civilians and Afghan allies. A press conference and photo op is not a plan to withdraw civilians and Afghan allies. In fact there’s a whole bunch of things that do not equal a plan to withdraw civilians and Afghan allies.

                    What was missing was an actual fucking plan to withdraw civilians and Afghan allies. It was missing for the last 20 years – with apparently not one nanosecond of thought devoted to developing some plan to withdraw civilians and Afghan allies.

                    Which is why it (meaning the thing that actually happened) basically became – Let’s announce a withdrawal on global TV and hope those people are watching so they can somehow make their way to somewhere else where someone will do something.

                    That was the fucking plan. BY EVERYONE. It doesn’t matter one fucking whit whether that shit occurred in Feb 2020 or August 2020 or January 2021 or April 2021 or August 2021.

                    If you think there was actually a different plan – then WHO – a specific NAMED PERSON – was in charge of executing the details of that plan?

                    1. Well you sound ignorant. Parts of the plan in place prior to Joe have leaked put. It didn’t call to shut down the AFB A month before withdrawal. It included a quick reaction force. It included a laddered approach for the US to push back of the taliban pushed forward as they did.

                      But being ignorant is your strong suit.

                    2. Leaking? You think this plan to evacuate a few tens of thousands of people – by multiple countries and to multiple countries – is gonna be a secret?

                      I repeat – WHO was in charge of executing this plan?

                2. It already has failed. It’s the most humiliating spectacle in US history. It makes the US leadership and military look like weak, incompetent buffoons.
                  That’s real bad news for international stability and increases the likelihood of world conflict. There’s the very real possibility that pulling out in this manner has more negative consequences than staying with the status quo would have.
                  Which is not to say that withdrawal, ending occupation, was a mistake. It was the right decision, but the execution has been so poor as to turn something that was an improvement to the situation actively worse than if nothing had been done at all.
                  It’s not a “so what?” scenario, and “we should’ve stayed” isn’t an answer – it’s: just how bad is this colossal fuckup going to be, and what the hell do we do now to mitigate the damage already done, reduce the potential for future damage, and deal with that consequent future damage when it comes?

                  1. “It makes the US leadership and military look like weak, incompetent buffoons.”

                    And if were just the appearance, that wouldn’t be as dire. Mistakes happen, sometimes people look foolish.
                    But it isn’t just appearance.

                    US leadership and military has been exposed as the weak, incompetent buffoons that they are.

                    And that is very dangerous not just for us, but for the whole world.

                    1. POTUS Trump pretty much called it Saturday night, in a memorable quote. Our Generals are woke AF. He said, “Everything woke turns to shit”. So true.

                  2. Can always bomb babies in some random countries.

            4. Since no one is going to have any counterfactual plan for what could have happened

              There was a counterfactual plan in place. Biden tossed it out the window. Get fucked in Kabul you forever war cheering asshat.

    2. If there is anyone on the planet who is an animatronic stand in for the real person it has to be Queen Elizabeth.

      Nobody wants the human tampon wearing the crown.

    3. The IC and military are throwing him under the bus

      Wouldn’t doubt if they are the real culprits in this. Just like how they undermined Trump’s withdrawal from Syria.

      1. If Biden made his decision based on fake reports full of lies they were issuing, just as they did with the Syria pullout, then yeah, it’s not a surprise that these guys are all acting so befuddled.

        Keep in mind, Trump was trying to get everyone out before Christmas, only to have Liz Cheney and Jason Crow work to block the funding for it, based on a completely cooked-up report by the spooks about “Russian bounties” that was later admitted to be “low-confidence” once their objective was achieved.

        These people are fucking loathsome. Every time I watch “13 Hours” now, I end up wishing the ex-SOF mercs guarding the place would just waltz out of the compound and leave the glowies to get roasted.

        1. ^ this

          The alphabet agencies may have been started with a mission, but the mission creeps, the bureaucracy metastasizes and then they just exist to keep existing. Foreign intelligence is the perfect example. Despite the blatant overlap of responsibilities, no agency ever divests itself of any resources. None of them currently function in any capacity other than as a giant vacuum for money and blood.

          Every law should have a sunset clause and expire, none of this ‘reauthorization’ bullshit. Expire and fall of the map forcing Congress to pass a new law. 30 years max. And every agency should have its mandate reviewed and a new authorization issued by Congress on a similar timeline. It should take an amendment to make something permanent. The federal government was never intended to have all its current quasi-enumerated powers. Especially the police powers.

          It would take an amendment, but it just might save the United States from tyranny. If the Congress and the Senate were busy managing the laws of the nation and interstate and foreign commerce per their mandate, they wouldn’t have as much time to think up new ways to fuck over the People.

    4. Considering he still has a ways to go before reaching Trump’s perpetual rating, he’s still not doing bad.

      1. LOL, Christ, talk about damning with faint praise.

        1. Did Cuomo’s approval rating every reach Trump’s? Says a lot about approval ratings/the electorate that you can sexually harass your employees, kill several thousand old people, and strand thousands of Americans in a war zone and still not be worse than Trump.

          1. Based on media coverage and the modern left, pretty sure Hitler would poll better than Trump now

    5. Why doesn’t Disney just use the animatronic Biden the DNC used during the campaign?

    6. Biden’s poll numbers are falling faster than an Afghan off the wing of a C117.

  4. The Biden administration is compelling commercial airlines to transport people out of Afghanistan.

    They can use some of that COVID relief/infrastructure giveaway money they are getting.

  5. Totalitarianism über alles.

  6. Not even Donald himself can get these folks on board with the vaccine.

    Almost as though they aren’t the mindless Trump lemmings we were told they are.

    1. No, this is still just evidence that they are somehow. I just haven’t gotten the email explaining how yet.

      —Dee

      1. Speaking of the imp. Anyone seen him around lately?

        Maybe he’s gone black ops and is leading people out though the Afghan underground railroad.

        1. He is on the covid thread by sullum with the same infantile demurring

          1. To the state*

          2. Those two deserve each other.

        2. The irony of calling himself ‘De Opresso Liber’ and whining about his inability to get his Afghan translators out while, apparently, thousands have successfully fled to S. Arabia, Qatar, etc. is hilarious.

    2. Then why aren’t they bowing down to the wishes of the state and democrats???? It has jeff and white Mike very confused.

    3. Weird, there goes the entire authoritarian cult narrative the left-leaning press, academe, and other assorted apparatchiks have been pushing.

      1. Hank you don’t understand leftist media narratives. This one will be, “now Trump cannot even control the monster he created.”

    4. If they are booing someone suggesting they get vaccinated, they are indeed mindless.

      1. You can call them traitors. You know you want to.

    5. Wait, I’m somehow supposed to derive comfort from the fact that a big chunk of former Trump supporters have now decided that Trump is not extremist enough for them?

      1. We’ve brought the word extremist in now, the use of the word terrorist will flow easily from your lips..

        1. It doesn’t even make sense. Real extremists silence you with a bomb, Trump extremists silence each other by shouting and not using needles. Not even as a Yakov Smirnoff/Yaqub al Araki turnabout joke.

        2. it’s at “insurrectionist” right now

    6. Maybe Bill Valentine’s example will change their minds. I mean, the man fought against Tennessee imposing a State Income Tax. Don’cha think he could have done more great work at limiting government if he had, you know, not died of COVID-19???

      1. Imagine all the good we could all do in this world if we just lived forever?

        1. Can we deny vaccines to the people who tried to impose a state income tax three times? At least make them pay full cost (including R&D) out of pocket? That, relatively, seems to be all kinds of feasible and morally correct.

          1. A very sore temptation. Perhaps the Doctor could say: “My first duty is ‘Do No Harm’ Go and do ye likewise.” Then send them the bill.

        2. Or at very least not die senselessly and avoidably at the relatively tender age of 61 as Bill Valentine did.

          There is a strong libertarian streak in the Life Extension/Transhumanist community for precisely that reason. Outliving all this craziness we’re living through may be the only peaceful way out.

    7. s democrats are mindless drones serving their Marxist collective, they can’t conceive of an opposing force based on free will and independent thought. They also have no souls.

  7. Even staffers who once bristled at doing their jobs outside of an office have come to embrace the flexibility and productivity of at-home life over the past 18 months…

    We will come to find that Zoom is actually who had been funding gain of function research in Wuhan.

    1. I want to say ‘not cynical enough’, but honestly, I can’t come up with anything more cynical…

      1. Microsoft – to beat out Zoom with WorkGroups.

        1. he said cynical, not delusional

    2. Eric S. Yuan[3] (Chinese: 袁征; pinyin: Yuán Zhēng; born 20 February 1970) is a Chinese-American billionaire businessman, engineer, and the CEO and Founder of Zoom Video Communications, of which he owns 22%.[4][5]

      Those inscrutable Chinamen. They’ve got plans, inside plans, inside plans, all leading to traps.

      1. all leading to traps.

        Trained soldiers are notoriously bad at relaxing their fingers.

    3. You can Zoom from Bangalore. And get paid a lot less for the same work. And be happy for the work.

    4. In the People’s Republic of NJ, the Peoples Duma (state legislature) is already talking about taxing remote workers. Absolute madness.

      1. Can you imagine the drain on NYC if NJ captures all that sweet cheddar cheese for the no longer commuters? That’s one way to defund the NYPD.

        1. They are talking a lot about the MA vs NH case.

  8. How some governors are using federal pandemic aid to encourage school choice.

    We will come to find that charter schools are actually who had been funding gain of function research in Wuhan.

    1. Let’s not forget DoorDash and Amazon.

      1. DoorDash isn’t organized enough to do that.
        Amazon on the other hand…

    2. Once again proving their superiority to traditional public schools – planning such a move and actually succeeding in implementing it, is far beyond the capabilities of public schools.

  9. An entire week of ENB’s news roundups have virtually ignored the worst foreign disaster (and humiliation) by a US President since Kennedy’s Bay of Pigs.

    While ENB and Reason may want everyone to forget about the Big Guy’s incompetence, that won’t happen this time.

    1. Reason ignores it with stand-alone articles that don’t exist, instead of putting it into the Roundup.

      1. Watch sarcasmic oscillate between being jeff and being white Mike.

        1. Wat5ch sarc as he attempts to fool people into thinking he’s a sentient human being.

    2. They’ve also ignored Australian cops beating citizens who refuse to stay in their homes at all times and executing dogs, all as ordered by the totalitarian central government

      1. Local newz

    3. Heh, no worries. They can always recycle the ‘People say the Dems are bad, the Gop is too|worse’

      Oh, yeah, like “Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick Is Right That Democrats Have a Vaccine Hesitancy Problem, but It’s Not Nearly As Big As the GOP’s” https://reason.com/2021/08/22/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-is-right-that-democrats-have-a-vaccine-hesitancy-problem-but-its-not-nearly-as-big-as-the-gops/

      1. You saying that the premise of the article is wrong, or are you just bitching about Reason being mean to Republicans?

        1. It is 100% wrong especially from a libertarian position. Being vaccine hesitant is not some anti libertarian position. Letting people evaluate their own risk profiles is not anti libertarian. The initial premise of the article is that vaccine hesitancy is bad. It also pushes the problem at their perceived enemies despite the most hesitant being PoC and those with doctorates. Sullum literally quotes the lefts view of conservatives pushing hesitancy instead of primary sources. It is a purely political thesis.

          But you sold your soul and now support the left. You stated you would attack those on power but still can’t criticize those currently in power.

          1. I’ll go farther, considering vaccinations as anything other than a personal health is anti-libertarian. Herd immunity, so others don’t get sick, et cetera, have no business as a justification for policy by libertarians.

            Vaccinations are PRIMARILY so you don’t get sick, and only as a second or third order consideration affect population health. They ONLY reason this is big deal is government meddling in medical and business domains.

            It is also odd, that of all the policies GOP and DEM can see beyond first order effects (that, the law intends this and therefore will do this and nothing else, e.g, CBO scoring that refuses take into account any behavior changes due to new laws / regulations) it is this on.

            1. I fully agree. The use of the risks of living in order to assert control is completely authoritarian, not libertarian. yet for some reason in 2020 many libertarians gave credence to this usurpation of freedom in a trade for safety. And not even a true trade for safety, but one built on shifting sand.

            2. Why is it that whenever someone (who isn’t a Republican) says that taking the vaccine is a good idea, you guys react as if the person said the vaccine should be mandated?

              1. sarcasmic
                August.23.2021 at 10:53 am
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                You’re arguing against things I never said, as usual.

              2. “Why is it that whenever someone (who isn’t a Republican) says that taking the vaccine is a good idea, you guys react as if the person said the vaccine should be mandated?”

                Read again what Kristian said, because this is very important to understand why we keep having this fight:

                “I’ll go farther, considering vaccinations as anything other than a personal health is anti-libertarian.”

                I have been trying to make this exact same argument, and it keeps getting morphed into discussing mandates. But this is a valid point even absent mandates.

                Nobody has a moral OBLIGATION (whether mandated or not) to protect another person from a natural threat. I am not obligated to put on a fire fighter’s uniform to save your house. I am not obligated to hold an umbrella over you to protect you from the rain and sun. I am not morally obligated to vaccinate myself in order to protect you from a spreading virus.

                Even absent mandates, it is wrong to vilify someone (for example Chemjeff calling people selfish assholes because they won’t mask or vaxx) for declining to protect *you* from a virus. It is not their responsibility. It is not their obligation. And to constantly berate people with statements like “Of course I won’t FORCE you to get vaccinated, but you are an asshole if you don’t,” is to make a totally anti-libertarian argument about who is responsible for what.

                1. You don’t have an obligation to hold the door for old ladies, but most people would call you out as an asshole for flat out refusing to do so.

                  1. Yup. And they are just as morally confused. But at least they aren’t screaming daily and constantly about assholes who won’t hold open doors for little old ladies, filming profanity laced TikToks about it and spending day after day writing articles about it.

                    I thank people when they hold the door open for me. Because it is a nice thing to do. It is nice because THEY HAVE NO MORAL OBLIGATION TO DO SO.

                    1. To really make the analogy he chose fair…

                      It would be like someone holding a door open in the presence or absence an old woman to enter. The mask question involves everyone masking, even in absence of a disease or symptoms. That’s what Jeff, WK, and others don’t understand as a first principle.

                    2. And since when are libertarians so concerned about what “most people” think. Most people think that Tariffs are a good idea, and that the war on drugs was a good idea. People are insufferable busy-bodies who love nothing better than to tell one another what to do.

                    3. There’s this thing called courtesy. Google it if you don’t know what it means.

                    4. Let me guess, Sarcasmic gets to define what is courteous.

                      It’d be courteous of you to be able to handle your alcohol sarc, I don’t see you doing it.

                    5. “There’s this thing called courtesy. Google it if you don’t know what it means.”

                      Do you believe there is a moral obligation to be courteous? By that, I mean, do you consider it a BAD act to not be courteous? (I’m not talking about being rude- just doing something completely neutral, like walking through the door without looking behind you. Or not smiling at the person on the street who makes eye contact with you.)

                    6. Of course not.

                    7. I still think it’s a bit fuzzy. The moral obligation part. What if COVID was as deadly as the 1918 flu pandemic? What if it was as contagious as smallpox? What if millions of people were dying, instead of thousands? Would you then change your tune about a moral obligation to getting vaccinated?

                    8. If we’re going by courtesy, shutting the fuck up and minding your own business is more fairly demanded than vaccination.

                    9. “Of course not.”

                      Then it isn’t a moral obligation. And that puts 95% of the people sagely lecturing us (and insanely screaming at us) to “Just get the jab already!” wrong.

                      Implied in pretty much every article is that people should get vaccinated- not to protect themselves- but to protect the public in general. They aren’t doing it because its a courteous thing to do. They are doing it because there is a moral obligation to do these things.

                      Imagine if there were millions of these articles and public spots, and people posting in the comments arguing that we should be courteous and open doors for little old ladies. At a certain point, don’t you think the whole effort transcends beyond “common courtesy” and has entered a new realm of ” creepy compulsion”. (And set aside the fact that a significant number of the people are saying a lot more than “it’s courteous” and are saying “it should be required.)

                    10. I’ll simplify it for you sarcasmic. Do you ever drive 1mph more than the speed limit? Do you ever look at a phone, change the radio station, etc? If so, you are offering up more risk than covid for the vast majority of Americans. Yet you think it is morally conscionable to not wear a mask even if you are not infected and have no symptoms. It is insane. This is called incremental authoritarianism. It is a means of conditioning people to slowly “behave socially” in respect to the state. It is one of the many tools they use in authoritarian regimes. It is why WW2 germany, Maoist China, and Russia all conditioned kids to report their parents. You really need to read a history book.

                      Yelling at masked people who are asymptomatic and not infected is just you becoming a willing soldier towards authoritarianism. This is why you aren’t truly a libertarian. You fail to recognize the history and social construction of how governments manipulate people into obedience.

                    11. “Would you then change your tune about a moral obligation to getting vaccinated?”

                      No. Think about it- why does the danger of the virus have anything to do with what is right or wrong? It is wrong to obligate (whether forced or not) someone to protect you from a natural cause. It is YOUR job to protect yourself and those in your care. To do otherwise is to shift an obligation on someone without their consent.

                      When you start saying, “well this is big enough of a threat to justify shifting the obligation”, or “the cost of bearing this obligation is so low that it is ok to shift it”, you abandon morals for a pragmatic argument. That has 2 problems: 1) It will always boil down to an argument of whose study is bigger. There will never be an objective answer to that and 2) this fact will encourage the destruction of your fact-finders, because they know they are deciding moral questions.

                      For what it is worth, the Soviet Communists were exactly this kind of pragmatic moralists. They justified the murder of millions on the fact that they were saving the trillions of workers who would be born in the future in a utopia.

                    12. I understand what you’re saying, and I agree to the extent that I don’t support forcing people to get vaccinated. However if people want to try to persuade others with a “moral obligation” argument, as long as they’re not using force I really don’t care. They may be wrong, but they’re not pointing a gun at anyone.

                    13. NYC, Virginia, government employers are all pointing the gun you mendacious fuck. And instead of calling them put you rush into threads to attack those saying no to mandates. Go duck yourself.

                    14. Fuck as well.

                    15. It’s not courtesy if its required by law.

                    16. No one gave a crap when 60-90K Americans died of the flu in 2017/18 flu season. No calls for masking up the public, no calls for shutting down the economy, no calls for social distancing, or for mandatory flu shots.

                      Absent COVID, 100% (minus epsilon) of the people here complaining about people going unmasked and/or unvaccinated as some sort of moral obligation would still be simply going on about their own lives without a care that the flu they spread that murdered someone’s grandma.

                      Any arguments about flu being different from COVID because “COVID is worse” are not based on “moral obligations”, but pragmatism adjusted for the potential risks (or in the case of COVID, the press-induced and magnified panic).

                      If you didn’t say a word when 60-90K Americans died of the flu 2 years before COVID, then STFU with your “moral obligations”.

                    17. If Covid was 10 or 20x deadlier than it is, then more people would get vaccinated for it voluntarily. Smallpox vaccines weren’t a tough sell. Because smallpox was incredibly horrible and killed lots of people. This is a very different situation we face today. Most people face very little danger if they get infected.
                      I think that this is the only answer to the question of “but what if it was much worse”. If it was much worse, people would likely modify their behavior accordingly.

                  2. At this point, the old ladies are the “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” generation. They can open up their own fucking door if they want to get inside that badly.

                    1. I dunno. If I’m grabbing a shopping cart and there’s an old lady behind me, I’ll pass her the cart and grab another for myself. Not all of us are jerks.

                    2. “If I’m grabbing a shopping cart and there’s an old lady behind me, I’ll pass her the cart and grab another for myself. Not all of us are jerks.”

                      This is exactly what I mean by moral confusion.

                      I can almost guarantee that you have failed to do this a thousand times in your life- because we all have. Sometimes your mind is occupied. Sometimes you are in a bad mood. Sometimes you didn’t see them or are in a rush. That doesn’t make you a jerk. It means that sometimes you are nice and do people a favor.

                      This black and white, binary thinking that either you are nice or a jerk is as corrosive to moral theory as missing the concept of Zero was to math. Sometimes there are just morally neutral decisions that we make, and trying to turn them into a moral question causes far more harm than it helps.

                    3. I was responding to Red Rocks comment. Try reading his comment, then mine, and then decide who I was calling a jerk.

                    4. Sarc’s a jerk, but his constant inebriation stops him from realizing it.

                  3. You make a good point. Let me try one.

                    Have you ever noticed that most people call you out as an asshole for blowing up threads with your “I’m not taking a side, just always disagreeing with one side while supporting or ignoring the other” trolling? It doesn’t seem to dissuade you…

                    1. Except that I’m not supporting or ignoring the other. People like you just glaze over posts where I’m critical of Dems because it doesn’t fit your cognitive biases.

                    2. You have yet to post an example of you being critical to Dems the last 6 months. I can post dozens and dozens of you critical to the GOP in a story that is critical to dems.

                      Again, if everyone here is seeing you as you truly are, maybe it is you that is the problem.

                    3. “Sure, everyone keeps telling me I’m an asshole… but that’s just because everyone except me is an asshole”

                  4. And sarcasmic once again retreats into sophistry.

                    Do you go yell at people who don’t hold the door open? You have a real issue with understanding what people write.

                  5. I’ve had sexual harassment accusations about me to HR because I’ve held the door open for women, like I was raised to do.

                    1. I’ve had sexual harassment accusations for saying “Good morning.”

                      Funny story. At least I think it’s funny. I few weeks after starting this cooking job, one of the guys asked me how I liked it. I said it was pretty good except for the lesbian midget who kept going on and on about her sex life, which I had not interest in hearing. She was standing a few feet away behind a 5′ cooler, but I couldn’t see here because she’s so short. Anyway, she immediately ran to the office and told the manager I’d called her a dike. So I get hauled in, and I told them the truth. “I didn’t call her a dike. I called her a lesbian midget. She’s less than five feet tall and is constantly bragging about licking carpet. I thought it was a statement of fact.” They kicked me out of the office and as soon as the door shut I could hear them laughing. Nothing else happened.

                    2. I kinda regret leaving that job. A year after I quit it was featured on Triple-D. Coulda met Guy. Oh well.

                    3. They clearly didn’t make Cuban sandwiches at this restaurant either.

              3. I don’t. I believe vaccines work. I believe vaccines have risks. For some groups, the overall risk of the vaccine is higher than not getting the vaccine (healthy young people or people who have already had COVID for instance). I think there people where the risk of not getting it is higher than getting it. But, to be honest, it’s like motorcycle helmets to me. Yeah, overall you’d be better off wearing a brain bucket, but hey, YOLO (and your choices do affect the duration of O).

                We do not all get every vaccine. For example, unless you are doing foreign travel to certain geographic locations, Americans don’t get Yellow Fever vaccines. Why? Because the risk of the vaccine doesn’t offset the risk of not getting the vaccine. Perfectly rational and libertarian analysis with no community spread analysis involved. COVID is making everyone lose their damn minds.

                So I am pro-vaxx, anti-mandate. Don’t care if it is Abbot or Biden or Fauci or Trump.

                1. “So I am pro-vaxx, anti-mandate. Don’t care if it is Abbot or Biden or Fauci or Trump.”

                  Ditto.

            3. “Herd immunity, so others don’t get sick, et cetera, have no business as a justification for policy by libertarians.”

              Who is saying it should be policy? Who are you arguing against?

              1. New York’s passport policy dummy. God damn. Sullum was literally criticizing vaccine hesitancy in the thread brought up. You posted in that thread.

                1. Look at sarc dance!

            4. “I’ll go farther, considering vaccinations as anything other than a personal health is anti-libertarian.”

              Baloney. Even if we go with a libertarianism based only on the non-aggression principle, spreading a potentially deadly virus around by exhaling around other people can be argued to be agression.

              1. Baloney. It’s not like shooting a gun into a crowd or driving a car into a parade. You can’t defend against that. But you can get vaccinated and avoid situations where you feel you might be at risk. Personal responsibility.

                1. Oh, and this is an example of a comment that JesseAz will pretend doesn’t exist, so he can continue to argue against me being a leftist who wants to force everyone to get jabbed.

                  1. Probably because you’re a leftist who wants to force everyone to get jabbed.

                  2. sarcasmic
                    August.23.2021 at 10:53 am
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                    You’re arguing against things I never said, as usual.

                  3. It’s not like shooting a gun into a crowd or driving a car into a parade. You can’t defend against that.

                    Nobody has to pretend your comment doesn’t exist to claim you never argue against vaccination mandates. Quite a few of the commenters recognize the Motte and Bailey fallacy. You are not really taking a position at all.

                    1. I’ve never said I support mandates of any kind. Why do you expect me to argue against something I never said?

                    2. Baloney. It’s not like shooting a gun into a crowd or driving a car into a parade. You can’t defend against that. But you can get vaccinated and avoid situations where you feel you might be at risk. Personal responsibility.

                      How can that possibly be interpreted as anything but an argument against mandates? Seriously. Must I mouth the words to you?

                      Here: I do not support mandates. I oppose mandates. While I think vaccines are a good idea, I oppose forcing people to take them. While I did not agree with many of the arguments against masking, I opposed mandates every step of the way and still do.

                      Is that clear enough for you?

                    3. There’s another example of a comment that will be memory-holed.

                      Because it doesn’t fit the narrative that I’m a leftist who supports leftist shit.

                    4. You only seem to do this when you get pushed into a corner Sarcasmic. Do you truly not undrestand this? You will attack attack attack and then claim you’re a perpetual victim. It’s child like at this point.

                    5. I opposed mandates every step of the way and still do.

                      In all seriousness, dude, you do not display strong critical reasoning.

                      Upon retreating to the motte, the arguer can claim that the bailey has not been refuted (because the critic refused to attack the motte)[1] or that the critic is unreasonable (by equating an attack on the bailey with an attack on the motte).

                      You have engaged 100% against Trump. That is the Bailey. The only other viable candidate was Joe Biden, who literally campaigned in favor of mask mandates.

                      You support the libertarian position against mandates. That is the Motte. This may very well be true, but when critical analysis is applied, this position is compromised by your support of the candidate who campaigned for mandates.

                      This is the part where you don’t get to have your cake and eat it too. Sure, you never advocated for mandates. But you engage in a fallacy when you ignore the inevitable consequences of your prior positions in defending your current position. The criticism is valid.

                2. We’re actually agreeing. I just didn’t express my point that well.

                  1. We’re actually agreeing.

                    sarc criticizes White Mike and gets gaslighted in return.

                    That is some serious 1-d chess playing. Years of gamesmanship compressed into an infinitesimal point.

              2. Mike what’s the line you stop that your reasoning at? Flu?

              3. Life has risk. The fact that you want authority due to this truism shows you to be a statist.

              4. “Baloney. Even if we go with a libertarianism based only on the non-aggression principle, spreading a potentially deadly virus around by exhaling around other people can be argued to be agression.”

                An unvaccinated person is not “spreading” anything. An infected person is. And we know for a fact that vaccinated and unvaccinated people can be infected. Therefore the argument that every unvaccinated person is an “aggressor” fails even elementary level logic. Please try again.

                1. If you are unvaccinated, how do you have any idea whether you are or are not infected and spreading the virus at any particular moment?

                  1. If you are unvaccinated, how do you have any idea whether you are or are not infected and spreading the virus at any particular moment?

                    If you are vaccinated, how do you have any idea whether you are or are not infected and spreading the virus at any particular moment?

                    IT’S THE SAME FUCKING DIFFERENCE!

              5. If I wasn’t being clear, I was treating
                Policy as Mandate which I view as Compulsion as opposed to the libertarian ideal of enlightened Choice.

                Supporting vaccine mandates because of herd immunity is like supporting War on Drugs because of community costs (health and property crime).

              6. You’re only spreading the virus around if you’re sick. Quarantining healthy people (or making them wear masks) is the act of aggression.

          2. You’re arguing against things I never said, as usual.

            1. Be specific. As usual. What did I say you said? I said what Sullum said dummy. The only part about you is the end sentence. Are you that broken? And yes, you did claim you attacked those in power multiple times. Or are you now finally conceding you prefer simply to attack one party despite them not being in power?

              1. I’ve never once said anything supportive of the left, yet you routinely accuse me of being a leftist. And you routinely say that my failure to attack xyz equals support for xyz.

                Every single argument you make against me is based upon things I never said.

                Back on mute you go.

                1. Me: Or are you now finally conceding you prefer simply to attack one party despite them not being in power?

                  You: I’ve never once said anything supportive of the left

                  Again, you’re a leftist because of your actions. You can not bring yourself to criticize the left. At all. In fact you run into threads offering up even the slightest criticism of them and then attack the right. That is your behavior.

                2. Back on mute you go

                  You know he never actually does it. He sits and seethes until his drunk ass can’t take it anymore, then he comes in yelling.
                  Once he’s been thoroughly humiliated he makes a big show how he’s muting everyone like it’s some sort of insult, or means anything.

                  Ironically he was absolutely devestated when Ken muted him for trolling, and still bitches about it now.
                  Self awareness isn’t sarcasmic’s forte.

                  1. He literally cried about being misrepresented and has now twice lied about what I said. It is fucking hilarious.

            2. Oh my god, would you all just mute each other? Or get a room and settle it once and for all with a jello wrestling contest or something?

    4. More in ENB’s wheelhouse, and she hasn’t touched, the Operation Choke Point restriction on content on OnlyFans, which has a chilling effect on sex workers. Bizarre how the expansion of Choke Point is once again occurring under Team Blue: politically disfavored groups and individuals, sexually explicit content, gun related manufacturing. The ‘left’ truly are a neo-Victorian caricature of the far Right.

      1. “The ‘left’ truly are a neo-Victorian caricature of the far Right.”

        The left is indeed all control all the time. So mostly it’s projection when the criticize others. But sometimes it is personal offense for anyone else deigning to step on their turf.

      2. Here she is writing about it as far back as 2014:

        https://reason.com/2014/04/28/doj-operation-chokepoint-and-porn-stars/

        Why not google it before accusing Reason, or a Reason writer, of not covering issue x?

        1. Because it’s more fun to pretend those articles don’t exist so they can say mean things about Reason and the writers. Remember, Reason has never once ever been critical of a Democrat and has never given credit to a Republican. Ever. When you see articles where they do those things, just pretend they don’t exist.

            1. ++ Ashley Fern!

        2. I’ll give you three guesses as to why she didn’t write about it from 2016-present you disingenuous shit.

        3. She wrote about “Operation Choke Point restriction on content on OnlyFans” two years before OnlyFans was founded? Why don’t you Google a little more rather than just trying, and failing, to be a lying turd?

    5. ignored the worst foreign disaster (and humiliation) by a US President since Kennedy’s Bay of Pigs.

      The sloppy exit was even worse than the Iraq War Disaster!

      That is the kind of wing-nuttery I like to read here at Reason!

      1. turd lies. turd never posts without lying. turd is a pathological liar entirely too stupid to realize that everyone knows he always lies.
        turd lies; it’s what turd does.

      2. We all know the worst military disaster was the failure of the security forces to open fire on the insurrectionists on January 6th (except that one guy).

        #Jan6NeverForget

        1. Now let us say a prayer to Saint Babbitt…

          1. Yeah, I bet you’ve been subbing her with your ex in your drunken revenge fantasies.

          2. Steaming pile of lefty shit shows real humanity in trivializing murder by cop.
            Fuck off and die, assholish piece of shot.

          3. Do you find it odd that the only cop you’ve ever liked is one who shot an unarmed women who outnumbers the cops 1 to 3?

          4. That is some SPB level trolling right there. Gotta get you some of that sweet, sweet negative reinforcement. Is your name Jeremy, perchance?

            Daddy didn’t give attention
            Oh, to the fact that mommy didn’t care
            King Jeremy the wicked
            Oh, ruled his world

            1. Trolling, or a response to trolling?

              1. Just trolling. That’s all you do.

                1. He never said his name wasn’t Jeremy.

            2. You’re seriously going to tell me that Ashli Babbitt hasn’t been canonized by the conservative right? Almost every article that’s critical of the cops has someone making comments about how Reason never covered the story and celebrated when she died. Are you daft?

              1. Look, just say this is the first cop you’ve ever supported because they shot and killed an unarmed trump supporter. Just be open with it. Give in to the leftist insurrection BS that pervades January 6th. Own it buddy.

              2. Are you daft?

                Just so you know, I don’t give a shit if George Floyd was a pillar of the community or if he was counterfeit passing junkie who overdosed trying to hide his stash from the cops. A cop kneeled on his neck for 8 minutes, a full 2 minutes after he was dead, while preventing anyone from rendering aid. Whether it was depraved indifference to an OD or murder is irrelevant. It was a homicide.

                Same for Ashli Babbitt. I don’t give a shit what she thought about Trump. I don’t care why she was there. A very slight woman, perched off-balance on a window ledge surrounded by broken glass, her hands visible and clearly evidencing no weapon, was shot in the throat and collapsed while the no less than 3 cops in tactical gear standing within 10 feet of where she was shot call out ‘active shooter’ because they couldn’t fathom why a cop would shoot an unarmed protester. In the absence of a direct threat, the use of deadly force against a civilian is called an execution.

                Very few people know Ashli Babbitt’s name, which is why the ones that do bring it up. After the weeks of initial false reporting, her death, the only death that day due to lethal force, is still being used to falsely categorize what happened on 1/6 as a ‘deadly’ insurrection. George Floyd’s death inspired months of protests. There are murals and statues around the world. People have literally prayed to him. You have the audacity to categorize Babbitt as being canonized?

                Are you always such a disingenuous cunt?

                1. I’ll say it again. Every group, club, political party or organization of any kind is just an idea.

      3. For all the bad in Iraq we at least got some kind of functioning state that doesn’t oppose us at every turn. In Afghanistan we ended up under the most optimistic reading at status quo ante after 20 years. There’s no polishing this turd.

      4. The sloppy exit was even worse than the Iraq War Disaster!

        I don’t think Buttplug actually knows what happened at the Bay of Pigs.

        1. I would hazard a guess that turd is what might be called “cluically challenged” regarding history prior to last week or so.
          This is not a truly functioning intellect as most would understand the term; on a level with jeff, sarc or M4e.

    6. “An entire week of ENB’s news roundups have virtually ignored the worst foreign disaster (and humiliation) by a US President since Kennedy’s Bay of Pigs….”

      Wait until the body count comes in; BoP won’t be a pimple on the ass of droolin’ Joe’s colossal fuck-up.

    7. BTW, the Chron had a page 2 article on the rescue (AP feed), but still not a word about *why* people need to be rescued.
      Might have been an earthquake for all you know if you rely on the SF Chronicle for news.

  10. Roughly 2 million more people than expected have joined the ranks of the retired in the pandemic…

    We will come to find that the AARP is actually who had been funding gain of function research in Wuhan.

    1. Now your just phoning it in.

      1. this one is my favorite

    2. My bet is on the climate change crowd. Makes for the best conspiracy theory, too.

      1. Seriously. The NGO responsible for trafficking the grants to Wuhan is called the EcoHealth Alliance. A Malthusian Super Villain couldn’t have named it better.

        1. A vote-counting firm called Dominion is on par

      2. “My bet is on the climate change crowd. Makes for the best conspiracy theory, too.”

        You mean that they are the conspitacists? They plan and implement conspiracies.

    3. Is that before or after we net out those murdered by Democrat politicians with idiotic policies?

  11. The result is a deep housing shortage that is driving more Californians into poverty, worsening inequality and hurting economic opportunity.

    “Go fix those things in someone else’s back yard.”
    -California Democrat voters

    1. The same people who want you to allow low income housing in your neighborhood – a middle class one – are those who want unrestricted immigration. There will not be low income housing near Plump Jack Winery or on Zinfandel Lane in St. Helena, but instead in Vallejo and Fairfield.

  12. Alameda County Superior Court Judge Frank Roesch says that Proposition 22, a pro–gig economy ballot initiative passed last fall, is unconstitutional since it interferes with the state legislature’s ability to set rules around workers’ compensation and collective bargaining.

    That’s what constitutions do: preserve the state’s ability to override the will of the people.

    1. I think this judge got it backwards.

      1. No, I think he ruled exactly how the unions told him to.

    2. > state’s ability to override the will of the people.

      the state that was elected by the people??

  13. “In a Friday ruling, Roesch held that Proposition 22 unconstitutionally limited “the power of a future legislature to define app-based drivers as workers subject to workers’ compensation law.” He held “that the entirety of Proposition 22 is unenforceable”

    If the legislature is more legitimate than the voters, where does the legislature get its legitimacy–if not from the voters?

    The elitist contempt progressives have for the American people is not a victimless crime. Whenever you see progressives claiming to be defending democracy, always remember the bitter contempt they routinely show toward the American people.

    1. The problem is the bill recharged the requirements of the votes needed to overturn to 7/8ths of the legislature. I have no problem with that being struck down as a bad law is basically a constitutional change at that point. Not a referendum.

      1. Couldn’t it also have been overturned by a simple majority of the voters?

        1. I am not an expert on California politics but I thought referendums couldn’t be overturned by othe referendums without an increase in votes.

          But even there there are times where voter referendums are against the state constitution. Arizona just had one struck down as it violated tax limits put into the state constitution.

          But if the California constitution derives the requirements to overrule the referendum by the people, a referendums shouldn’t be allowed to change that rule.

      2. I think the likely “correct” outcome is that the referendum stands, but the legislature remains free to undo it. Surely the people deserve the same benefit of severability that the legislature gets.

        Texas solves this by making every referendum a constitutional amendment. lol

    2. “I AM the Senate.” -Palpatine

    3. The whole point of the California referendum system is that it gets to override the legislature. That’s a feature not a bug. 19th century progressives were a slightly different breed than today’s, and their motto was “people, not politicians or corporations”.

      So proggies upset that there’s a recall election have their proto-proggie ancestors to blame. The legislature can’t override the process. And proggies upset that they can’t summarily ban gig workers have their proto-proggie ancestors to blame. The legislature can’t override the process.

      This is democracy in action, the same democracy the Democrat Party was named after. Don’t like it? There’s a process to change it. But Democrats never seem interested in changing it, because the California process is that the people get a say in the matter. And modern proggies hate the people. The California people may be liberal as fuck, but for the most part they are NOT progressives. (If you don’t know the difference, get a dictionary).

      1. We might also point out that if it weren’t for the referendum process, marijuana policy might still be held hostage to the law enforcement interests in Sacramento.

        The reason it took New York so long to decriminalize marijuana was not because of the Republicans. It’s because the Democrats in Albany didn’t want it legalized and unlike in California, New York doesn’t have a referendum process.

        The elitist contempt for the voters, however, really shouldn’t be under emphasized when we’re talking about the current crew of Democrats running things in Sacramento. It’s not that they don’t care what the people of California want. They actively disparage the desires of the people.

        The people are racist, homophobic, sexist, and xenophobic, and on top of that, they’re environmentally irresponsible and selfish about not wanting to pay more in taxes. The progressives who run Sacramento see it as their purpose to protect the government from the people.

        Whatever the people were when the referendum process was born, the people are the enemy now.

    4. OMG, just this weekend you were saying progressives are the most horrible people because they support direct democracy through ballot initiatives. I pointed out how that accusation is inconsistent with your criticizing progressives for being elitists.

      Now, you are blatantly contradicting what you said this weekend. You cannot have it both ways — they are either awful for being elitists or they are awful for being populists. Make up your mind.

      1. Hahaha. It’s great to see that people pointing out your hypocrisy and gaslighting techniques, hit a nerve.

        But that’s not what Ken is doing here you gaslighting fuck, nor is that what he said yesterday. You’re trying to rewrite the script to suit your line of attack, but as usual it’s nothing but lies.

        You really need to back off on Ken by the way. This harassment and obsession with him is creepy as fuck.

      2. Principles shminciples. If he likes the initiative then it’s good government. If he doesn’t then it’s mob rule.

        1. You two are best buds now. LOL.

          1. Roll ’em down a hill in a barrel, there’ll always be an asshole on top!

    5. If the legislature is more legitimate than the voters, where does the legislature get its legitimacy–if not from the voters?

      The voters. Like lending your neighbor your lawnmower. Sure, morally he should return it if the agreement was a borrowing. However, practically, if you aren’t willing to give it up entirely or take it back by force, you really need to just stop pretending it’s yours. Okily dokily?

  14. I’m more interested in hearing some commentary on the severability analysis that decided the entirety of prop 22 can’t be enforced. Whether or not ballot initiatives can tie legislatures hands is an interesting question, but unlikely to be one that has a clean answer, whereas the severability decision feels objectively wrong.

    1. Fuck you that’s why.

      The judge didn’t like how the people voted and knows there will be no consequences to his actions, so he he doesn’t bother to.

    2. Never mind that, what does it mean for the proposition to be “enforced”? If you work as an independent contractor, what does “non-enforcement” of prop. 22 mean to you? Non-enforcement means cops leave you alone, right?

  15. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1429734489190768641?t=UFGEKlRrNXXO2c83Bycu_g&s=19

    Shocking video from yesterday’s Portland riot shows antifa robbing female photographer @MaranieRae & hitting her to the ground. She goes to retrieve her equipment & is hit w/pepper spray. Video by @JLeeQuinn: [video]

    1. Antifa is the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory made flesh.

    2. You can’t be robbed by an idea!

    3. AntifaJeff: “I’ve never once said anything supportive of Fascism, but yet you always accuse me….”

    4. Antifa does worse shit every hour of the day than the Jan 6 protesters in their entirety, but it almost never makes the news.

      I guess it pays to be a merc in the militia of the same guys who own the American media and the Democratic Party.

      1. One of Antifa’s main tenants is control of media. They only allow sympathetic “press” to cover anything. No photography, they attack anyone they think might be taking pictures they don’t want. They occasionally spread FUD and talking points on social media, but they’re not quite as good at that.

        But this culture of attack the reporter is all based on keeping them from being seen for what they are. Which, I was told, isn’t a real thing. You know, just an idea.

        1. And someone is paying a fifty cent army to flood social media with outright lies, which the social media companies then promote.

  16. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1429764103602593794?t=PlFEcQ4s3CiAojozuTL6-Q&s=19

    NEW – Taliban has issued a red line to Biden. Complete the evacuation operations by August 31 or face “consequences”

    1. I’m surprised the Taliban is giving a date so far off, or even bothering to give one at all.

      1. Don’t forget that if the US wanted to we could drive them to the ocean via Russia. Right now the us public is broadly against that but start killing Americans and enough Americans could change their mind. Obviously we won’t go full Roman on them but they need to walk a fine line between acting tough and restarting the occupation again.

        1. If they were smart, they’d walk in unarmed and start shoving the Americans out on to the tarmac. Some 82d Airborne going full “Rules of Engagement” on them would provide a few martyrs and be a great propaganda opportunity.

          I suspect they don’t have the manpower to keep these checkpoints up forever, and want to get on with the business of implementing their rule. The longer the US mills around in the airport with their thumb up their ass, looking like weak bitches as the British and French do our work for us, the harder that becomes.

          1. Can we even get our citizens in Kabul to the airport and off the ground in the next eight days?

            It’s definitely a game of chicken right now. And yes, the Taliban really have a lot to do in order to consolidate power before the winter sets in.

            But they clearly control the initiative and if they want to make this terribly ugly then they certainly could.

          2. “and want to get on with the business of implementing their rule…”

            Especially if Massoud’s kid up in the Panjshir is telling the Taliban to come get some, and fighting season only lasts so long…

            1. He has endorsed his father’s idea of a Swiss model for internal power-relations in Afghanistan, saying that the decentralization of government and the de-concentration of power from Kabul would give a more efficient allocation of resources and authority to provinces in the country, thereby bringing prosperity and stability to the country as a whole.

              A man after my own heart. But I’m sure if ever given the opportunity to implement this vision he will pass.

              1. the decentralization of government and the de-concentration of power from Kabul would give a more efficient allocation of resources

                “Here’s how a prosperous Afghanistan can provide more equitable boipucci and cousin-humping for every man who wants it.”

              2. The ISI and China are like, “Yeah, Fuck all that.”

                Still, if he’s a thorn in the Taliban’s side, then they’re going to need to shit or get off the pot, re: letting Westerners actually leave. Despite rolling up the ANA like a sleeping bag, they really don’t have that many people. Not enough to consolidate they rule, smack down miscreants like Massoud, and at the same time play Mexican Standoff with part of a MEU and the 82nd.

                A big problem is that the guys getting P*A*I*D to not mess with the infidels, likely aren’t the same guys with fingers near triggers/lanyards on all of that ordnance pointed at Karzai Airport. And I doubt the fat cats are kicking down the baksheesh.

                Then add the 8,000 new AQ and IS assholes that recently got let out of prison…this can’t last.

      2. I heard they are moving it to 9/11.

        1. Droolin’ Joe thought so, too.

    2. “Of course, those ‘consequences’ will be in accordance with Islamic Law.”

  17. https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1429793506046906374?t=s9SqniuzvW05-gir1Xnykg&s=19

    Extinction Rebellion starts two weeks of protests to pressure the government into doing what they’re already doing.

    If the state is literally caving to your every demand, it’s not a “rebellion,” it’s an establishment astro turf.

    1. Femen, BLM, Antifa, etc. are all hired tools of the Western corporate-political elite in their class wars against the proletariat. And although they didn’t begin that way, so are the current iterations of Greenpeace and the Sierra Club.

  18. “…”Civilian planes would not fly into or out of Kabul, where a rapidly deteriorating security situation has hampered evacuation flights,” The New York Times reports. “Instead, commercial airline pilots and crews would help transport thousands of Afghans who are arriving at U.S. bases in Bahrain, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.”…”

    In a Sunday presser, Biden claims 11,000 people have been air-lifted out.
    To where? Which country said “sure, we’ll take people of whom we have no knowledge at all”?

    1. To Haiti, of course. To help in the rebuilding effort.

  19. Re Cause of Action Institute v. OMB, and without perusing the case details, if the browser history is on a government computer, then the history would be considered an agency record for a criminal investigation. This seems like the government dragging its feet and refusing to supply requested documents until forced to do so., with a friendly judge to assist

  20. The press seems to be testing the reality waters, to a certain extent, on the issue of the Afghanistan pullout anyway. At least, they seem to be dipping their toes into the reality pool to see how cold the water is.

    “Public reaction to what’s happened there is decidedly negative, with Americans now fearing wider repercussions from a heightened threat of terrorism. Back home, the public weighs in with rough judgments on President Biden — not only for his handling of it, but with his overall presidential approval rating dropping substantially, and broader views of his qualities like effectiveness and competence taking hits along with it.”

    —-CBS News

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghanistan-troop-removal-biden-approval-opinion-poll/

    It doesn’t seem like much, but I don’t think I’ve seen the mainstream press take a Democrat in the White House to task to that extent since before the Obama administration.

    Incidentally, 74% of Americans say the withdrawal has gone either somewhat badly or badly–and 63% of Americans still approve of removing U.S. troops from Afghanistan.

    Meanwhile, Biden’s approval ratings have dropped from 62% in March to 50% now, and his disapproval has risen from 38% in March to 50% now. (That presumably isn’t all because of Afghanistan).

    Here’s the breakdown of the percentage in each party who say the removal of troops has gone badly.

    Republicans: 87%
    Independents:76%
    Democrats: 62%

    The figure of 38% of Democrats being so willfully obtuse as to have achieved official delusional status is consistent with my personal observations. This is the progressive wing of the Democratic party. Being delusional isn’t just what they do. It’s who they are. If Biden were shown raping refugees on national television, they’d still deny that anything bad was happening or that he was responsible for it.

    1. “If Biden were shown raping refugees on national television, they’d still deny that anything bad was happening or that he was responsible for it.”

      Not partisan at all. Totally dispassionate and logical.

      1. This from a fuckwad who claimed Trump was serious about shooting someone in the street. Your gaslight campaign against Ken is a shart in a tornado.

        The Great White Shartnado. Try it on, you might like it.

      2. Shit-for-brains, while it is “partisan”, it is also true.
        Fuck off and die, asshole.

    2. If Biden were shown raping refugees on national television, they’d still deny that anything bad was happening or that he was responsible for it.

      In their defense, even I would give it a 50/50 as to whether it was his fault or his handlers for not keeping up with his meds.

  21. https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1429793335909261314?t=7V0ZK3iJ1Zu1E69ih_eZhQ&s=19

    If a right wing militia behaved like Antifa has in Portland, they’d all be in jail. They‘d never get away with it for years. The media would cover it as a national crisis. Just think about the difference in how J6 political prisoners are treated vs. much worse Antifa in Portland.

    1. Only the right can be tErr0RisTS.

      I wonder if Greenhut or Sullum will ever write a hyperbolic article condemning the Soros’ Portland brownshirts?

      1. Doubtful, especially since they are share the same funding sources.

    2. Typical scenario for the 2010s:

      Rightwing group hold march. Leftwing group shows up and start heckling. Righties heckle back. Lefties start throwing punches, bottles etc. Some righties lose cool and retaliate.

      Tomorrow’s headline “RIGHTWING DEMONSTRATORS BECOME VIOLENT”.

      1. Typical right-wing victimization narrative.

        1. You’re not even pretending anymore. That’s good. That’s why Tony is actually more honest than you. He states what he is.

          1. Yep. Nobody believes Dee’s not a lefty anymore.

    3. Summary of NPR coverage this morning of the Portland incidents:

      Proud Boys held a rally in an old KMart parking lot far from downtown.
      Many of the Proud Boys brought weapons.
      Many of the Proud Boys speeches were awful, just awful.
      The police vowed not to do anything about it.
      Some Antifa people showed up at the Proud Boys rally.
      Passive voice, “some fighting ensued.” (No word at who started what).
      Later an Antifa guy was shot, and the police finally did something about it, arresting a guy.

      1. Allow me to translate:

        “Proud Boys held a rally in an old KMart parking lot far from downtown.”
        This is correct. Rally was originally planned to be at waterfront downtown, but antifa threatened violence so it was changed.

        “Many of the Proud Boys brought weapons.”
        Paintball guns and mace/pepper spray.

        “Many of the Proud Boys speeches were awful, just awful.”
        No idea about this one, didn’t listen to any.

        “The police vowed not to do anything about it.”
        True, the police said they weren’t going to get involved when antifa threatened violence at the originally scheduled location.

        “Some Antifa people showed up at the Proud Boys rally.”
        They tried to ram a van into the crowd.

        “Passive voice, “some fighting ensued.” (No word at who started what).”
        Antifa jumped out of the van, promptly got their asses kicked (as always), and ran away.

        “Later an Antifa guy was shot, and the police finally did something about it, arresting a guy.”
        Nowhere near the rally. He was an antifa zombie who’d gotten in an argument with other antifa zombies downtown at the waterfront, where he returned to open fire until his gun jammed and he couldn’t clear it.

        1. Note on police “non” involvement.
          There were definitely plain clothes cops with antifa, and actively but not secretly working with antifa.
          You can see this in the video of the gunman getting arrested.

        2. They tried to ram a van into the crowd.

          Is that the “handicapped van” that I saw some PBs overturning?

          There were definitely plain clothes cops with antifa, and actively but not secretly working with antifa.

          Yeah, they’re basically there to tard-wrangle these guys to the extent that they don’t go into anyone’s home and start shit.

          1. Yes, or as some douche from Vice reported it “a medical vehicle”.

            And I guess antifa is ok with having handlers there, because it’s not like they were secret to the group, and all are definitely working together.

            1. Maybe the higher ups don’t want a repeat of the Aaron/Jay Danielson murder.

              Funny how it was clearly a team working together, but only one person went down for it.

  22. “The tech world gives back with a fund that gives cash to workers for organizing”
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/The-tech-world-gives-back-with-a-fund-that-gives-16398360.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result

    Well, that’s a bit of a stretch.
    Seems a woke POS who tried to organize Google suppliers was ‘asked to leave’ and bought out to do so.
    That’s how this is called a ‘tech fund’.

  23. Even the Canucks are preparing to go out out and retrieve their own.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canadian-special-forces-may-be-used-to-rescue-afghan-interpreters/

    No way all of our people get to the airport on their own.

    This is going to get ugly.

    1. Only Trudeau could fuck things up worse than Joe, but he’s prepping for election so his puppeteers won’t let him.

  24. “San Francisco Symphony Choral Director Ragnar Bohlin resigns over vaccine mandate
    Bohlin has been outspoken about his anti-vaccination views on his Facebook page.”
    […]
    ““I have with a growing sense of alarm observed the tide turn in this direction, in regards to medical passports,” Bohlin wrote to The Chronicle from Sweden, while on a night train to Stockholm. “I am sad to now see the SFS comply with these dictats and to deprive their employees their basic rights to privacy, bodily autonomy and informed consent.”…”
    https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/music/san-francisco-symphony-choral-director-ragnar-bohlin-resigns-over-vaccine-mandate

    Goddam Trumpers in the arts world~!

    1. “…rights to privacy, bodily autonomy and informed consent.”…”

      Reichwing talk if there ever was.

      Pretty soon someone is going to call him part of the Taliban.

      https://www.foxnews.com/us/ex-cia-director-compares-trump-supporters-to-taliban

      When you make no rhetorical distinction made between political opposition and murderous Jihad then you bear at least some responsibility when people decide there is no downside to actual murderous jihad.

      1. At the very least, you trivialize those who have suffered at the hands of the Taliban.
        Similarly, the lefty piles of shit calling the detention centers (while Trump was in office) “concentration camps”.

      2. “When you make no rhetorical distinction made between political opposition and murderous Jihad then you bear at least some responsibility when people decide there is no downside to actual murderous jihad.

        Like all the establishment monkeys busy comparing January 6 to 9/11.

        1. Yes. Anyone who said “mostly peaceful” about the summer of arson, looting and murder, will deserve whatever comes their way.

  25. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1429786126815010820?t=V2Mp_lBvyQaT1x2v8b8_ww&s=19

    Australia has gone insane on COVID – so far to excessive authoritarian impulses – that it’s hard to put into words at this point.

    This news segment is like from some dystopian sci-fi film about future fascism: the state hunts for the disobedient as news media labels them evil: [video]

    But for some sectors of the liberal-left [sizeable majority], this form of authoritarianism — the state controls your actions in the name of protecting you — is *appealing*. They wish there were more of this in the US.

    Being ordered not to live life in the name of safety offers fetal comfort.

    And the Australian officials who slaughtered these dogs in the name of COVID — to stop people from leaving their home to bring them to a shelter: all over *7* cases — should be prosecuted for animal cruelty. This is the authoritarian mindset unleashed: [link]

    Ordinary teenagers in Australia arrested and broadcast on TV for partying on a deserted beach late at night, while Obama is free to dance in inside tents with 400 of his best friends all unmasked, and Pelosi lavishes rich donors who sit on top of each other outside, unmasked.

    1. Yet JFree and chemleft fail to understand that all this wonderful authoritarian safetyism, sets precedent, and can be easily used against them in the future.

      1. Oh they understand it. It’s what they want, to be controlled by their betters.

        1. Yeah, their whole motivations is that they assume they’ll be amongst those who aren’t put up against the wall.

      2. Australia is the beta test for the new iNazi program

        1. Australia is a pissant little country run by the descendents of convicts and prison guards. Each group has its own version of authoritarianism generally based on mutual resentment of each other as well as against the outside unidentified “other” who sent them there.

  26. FDA just granted Pfizer full approval.

    The pandemic is over!!

    1. At this point it seems kind of pointless to me. The emergency use authorization still let people use it. Unless there is some political motivation.

      1. Gee, what could that possibly be?

        1. Government can now force all troops to be vaccinated. That was the primary motivation to get final FDA approval.

      2. AIUI, it’s now not an illegal order to insist all DoD personnel get the jab. That strikes me as a big deal.

        1. Got it. Didn’t know that was a blocker.

          1. Also likely was an impediment to employers’ mandating (or their health insurance providers doing it, which amounts to the same thing) that employees are required to get stuck. That asshole Hughes’s ruling in TX Federal Court notwithstanding.

            Get ready for a lot more pressure to get the damned thing.

            1. Get ready for a lot more retirements.

              1. Which is the point.

                Constructive termination is best termination.

      3. At this point it seems kind of pointless to me.

        It opens the door to forcing children to get it.

    2. I just recovered from COVID, probably Delta. The CDC recommends I get the vaccine in 2 weeks. Because recovery – vaccine is supposedly 2.74 times as likely to be hospitalized if reinfected than recovery + vaccine. Deaths from reinfection are non-existent. And that is 2.74 times a small number of people who may very well have been misdiagnosed as positive early last year when they were testing at ridiculously high cycles.

      As we have been told over and over, this vaccine is not a culture, so the likelihood of a reaction to the shots is not reduced by prior recovery. I know someone that had COVID last year and when he got the 2nd shot, he was out for 2 days.

      Even if natural resistance fades, why recommend the vaccine now and not within 12 months?

      Curiouser and curiouser.

    3. So what’s this I’m reading that the FDA actually hasn’t approved the Pfizer vaccine, but has only extended the time under the EUA for administration? See, https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

      For the actual order, and note Pages 2 and 13 therein.

      1. And it looks like the extension applies to those patients 12-16 years old, with actual approval for those who are older.

        It was hilarious while it lasted. Like this thing wasn’t going to get approved.

  27. what California voters want with regard to companies like Uber, Lyft, Instacart, and DoorDash apparently doesn’t matter much in the Golden FYTW State.

    FTFY.

  28. “Judge invalidates vote”

    Democracy in action.

    1. Hey! The *people* elected the person who appointed the judge!

      1. According to ballotpedia
        2020
        Incumbent Frank Roesch was the only candidate to file and won the position by default when the election was canceled.

        2014
        Roesch ran for re-election to the Alameda County Superior Court.
        As an unopposed incumbent, he was automatically re-elected without appearing on the ballot

    2. I’m calling it an insurrection.

  29. Oh, and just as a personal observation . . .

    I saw Biden last week repeatedly say things that weren’t true about the state of affairs in Kabul, about the refugees, about what was happening on camera, etc., and given his age and limited cognitive skills, it didn’t seem to me that he was willfully lying so much as he was probably being lied to by his own people.

    To a certain extent, his PR people are depending on the thoroughly progressive media to give him softball questions, but he seems to really believe the shit he says. It’s as if his advisers are telling him what he needs to hear in order to make the decisions they want him to make.

    This happens to investment managers and CEOs all the time. If you tell your people what the threshold is to make a decision, and you don’t have the right people or the right organization in place, they’ll tell you whatever you need to hear in order to make that decision or not.

    If your acquisitions manager gets a point of every deal you close, and you tell him that you need the market rent to come in above $1.06 a square foot or you won’t close, don’t bet against his market analysis coming above that number.

    The military, the state department, the intelligence services, and Biden’s own aids all have interests and agendas of their own, and they know his decisions are highly dependent on what they tell him. They also know he’s easy to manipulate given his age and cognitive decline.

    Right now, Biden is coming across like Bagdad Bob on everything from the border crisis, to the crime wave, and Afghanistan. For those of you who don’t remember, Bagdad Bob was Saddam Hussein’s information minister, who famously denied that Americans had penetrated Iraqi defenses around Bagdad–the moment before American troops captured him on camera. We watched him deny that American troops were in Bagdad even as American tanks were shown patrolling Bagdad in the street below his building.

    Biden is coming across like Bagdad Bob on the border crisis, violent crime, and Afghanistan, but I don’t think it’s because he’s lying like Bagdad Bob. If Biden were lying, that might be better. It’s worse than that if he’s telling us the truth from his perspective, and the truth from his perspective has no resemblance to reality because he’s depending on officials in his administration that are blowing so much smoke up his ass, he thinks up is down and left is right. He should probably be removed from office at this point. He doesn’t have what it takes to be president anymore.

    1. > This happens to investment managers and CEOs all the time. If you tell your people what the threshold is to make a decision, and you don’t have the right people or the right organization in place, they’ll tell you whatever you need to hear in order to make that decision or not.

      Had that in my last company. Big international boss came in, and the local CEO was canned before he left for the evening. Imagine the shit one is one when your boss has to fly literally halfway around the world to can you.

      It’s not just the CEO, it’s the culture he Yes Men he creates. They have to go as well. I left the company in the interim because of that culture, but in the year and a half since I left they managed to dump a couple of VPs and a lot of senior management. And they’re still not out of the woods yet.

      1. When your decisions depend on the information you give somebody, they will give you the information to make the decision that will benefit them–if you let them.

        Dealing with that is one of the essential functions of any CEO, and Biden seems to be failing miserably at that task. The things he said about Afghanistan last week were delusional, easily disproven by what was on TV the day before, and yet he said them with conviction.

        He made his decisions based on information that was given to him by the same people who are feeding information to his decisions today. Biden still doesn’t know which way is up, and he’ll never right the ship until he figures it out for himself.

      2. Any company that would hire brandybuck…

        1. Brandyshit is a victim of mean tweets and he won’t stand for it anymore!

    2. It could also be the MIC/IC, feeding him misinformation and sabotaging the withdrawal to get him to reverse course. See Trump and Syria. At this point, I am reserving judgement of this whole situation until we are good and out and hopefully real news stories come out regarding this mess.

      He doesn’t have what it takes to be president anymore.

      Anymore? That’s charitable of you.

    3. He doesn’t have what it takes to be president anymore.

      Did he ever? Even before his obvious cognitive decline he was never the brightest bulb on the tree.

    4. Ken,

      I think Biden is well aware that he is lying. The culture in politics attracts a certain type, those who will never admit to being wrong, will always blame others, or obfuscate. Part of this is human nature, not wanting to be shamed, part of it is simple lack of maturity and selfishness. or self-centeredness. One could more easily demonstrate that Biden’s career is based in this, the bragging, lying, and never taking responsibility, than his meager contributions to improving the human condition. He is a master, and shameless in his lies: he uses his family, his first wife, his son Beau. This is a hallmark of a serial grifter, and of an abuser, and it has been obvious since well before he started lying about the truck driver who hit Neilia and the two boys being drunk.

      1. I have no doubt that he would be lying if he were more in control of himself.

        In the case of the border crisis, wave of violent crime, and Afghanistan, I think he’s calling it like he sees it–it’s just that what he sees is delusional.

        The lies he’s telling are obviously lies to people who watch the left wing news. CNN and MSNBC are even talking about it. Once the U.S Marines walk on camera and took Bagdad Bob into custody as a POW, Bagdad Bob stopped lying about the Americans not being in Baghdad. If Bagdad Bob had kept insisting that the Americans were not in Bagdad–even while he was in their custody in Bagdad–that would be like what Biden has been doing on Afghanistan.

        At one point, Biden was insisting that Americans were not having any trouble getting to the airport in Kabul. This was after CNN and MSNBC had been running stories for more than a day about the checkpoints and Americans not being able to get through to the airport. It was as if Biden were completely unaware of the problem–or the existence of the checkpoints.

        That isn’t a lie so much as it’s Biden regurgitating what the military, the state department, the intelligence services, and his own aids are telling him.

        It’s not a lie. They told the emperor that his clothes look gorgeous, and anyone who says otherwise is incompetent. But the emperor has not clothes. I repeat: The emperor has no clothes.

    5. given his age and limited cognitive skills, it didn’t seem to me that he was willfully lying so much as he was probably being lied to by his own people.

      I said way back during the campaign that the reason they picked him after the Nevada caucus was because they knew there was nothing he’d say that wasn’t pre-selected by various oligarchic interests. They knew Bernie would do the J-O-B, but he still scared them because it would be a lot harder to keep him from going off script. They couldn’t take that chance of him getting the nomination and subsequently having to work to sink their own party in the general.

      1. Except the occasional slip ups, like his voter fraud organization and the question the reporter was supposed to ask

    6. The only things coming out of Biden’s mouth are lies and teeth.

    7. I am pretty sure Biden stroked out when his eye filled up with blood during that debate. He is now being animated by Voldemort’s snake. Listen for the slight hissing when he talks.

  30. > Not even Donald himself can get these folks on board with the vaccine.

    Because Donald is now just a shill for Biden. I mean really, follow the money. I’m just asking questions.

    1. Brandybuck again embarrasses itself

    2. Not even Donald himself can get these folks on board with the vaccine.

      The funny thing is that he’s never denigrated getting it, and has told people that they should get the jab. The managerialists are just ass-blasted that he’s not acting like some pharma drug pimp for something he bragged about constantly.

      Because Donald is now just a shill for Biden. I mean really, follow the money. I’m just asking questions.

      Are you drunk?

      1. Drunk on establishment lefty jingoism.

    3. Is this type of ignorance contagious or something? Or just endemic to all left libertarians?

    4. Brandyshit still trying to come up with some justification for his adolescent fan-boy decisions!
      And failing.
      Stuff it up your ass, Brandyshit.

    5. There wasn’t a single question in your post.

  31. “Judge invalidates vote on gig economy drivers.”

    This is the kind of Democracy Democrats want. If the will of the people doesn’t agree with their agenda, it doesn’t count.

    If the recall vote goes against Newsom, expect the same thing.

  32. They might just shuffle Senile Joe’s cackling idiotic VP into office, and she will be far more pliable to them. If that happens, expect a new invasion of a foreign country prior to the 2024 presidential election, or possibly some attack on our soil that was funded by the CIA or FBI.

    The media of course will ask no tough questions and if they do will be accused of racism, sexism, etc.

    Remember all the former Bush neocons and RINOs are firmly in the democrat party and IC camp at this point.

  33. Nothing about the ban on the importation of Russian ammo? If I still had any guns, which I don’t due to a terribly unfortunate boating accident, I’d be pretty pissed off about it.

    1. Damn, same here, stupid boats.

      1. one one bank of a river Hank has a baby, a fox, and eleven crates of 7.62 Dragunov, but only one canoe …

      2. Yeah. Happened to me, too. Thank goodness I was never even asked how I got fourteen pistols, twenty-seven rifles, countless 30-round magazines, three shot-guns, four-thousand rounds of ammo, night-vision equipment, body armor, a complete reloading outfit, and a small gun-smithing outfit into a twelve-foot rowboat.

        1. No wonder it tipped over.

          1. +

  34. “Judge Frank Roesch says that Proposition 22 is … unconstitutional since it interferes with the state legislature’s ability to set rules around workers’ compensation and collective bargaining.”

    Somehow, I find it rather interesting that, on the one hand, many “progressives” are opposed to “capitalism” because “everyone will end up working as “slaves to big corporations,” while, it appears, that they also oppose those who choose NOT to work as “slaves” to big corporations.

    Or maybe, since many “progressives” also want the government to control private businesses, and therefore, indirectly control the employees of such businesses, that they see this as just an end-around to turning ALL workers as “slaves” to the State.

    Hmm…

    1. They’re fine with you being a slave to a big corporation as long as you’re also a slave to a union. That’s the root of their issue with Uber drivers, they’re competition for unionized cab drivers.

      1. Yep. And, eventually, the handy-person who one hires to do small repairs around one’s house, or the kid down the street who mows lawns in the neighborhood will also have to be employed by some company. For their own good, of course.

      2. It validates their world view to see representatives of an employer and of employees glowering and saying, “Grrr!” to each other across a table.

        1. It’s all about perpetual struggle. The outcome, meh, they could care less about that.

  35. If Jesse Jackson ends up croaking from COVID, I hope the last words he gasps out are, “Don’t-get-the-vaccine-it’s-honky-poison!”

    1. I think crack was originally honky-poison. Meth definitely is. Nobody should ever blindly trust a honky.

    2. Honky Poison would be a great name for an album.

    3. His last words will be media translated to “I shouldn’t have listened to Trump.”

  36. Around the world, the ruling class is treating political opposition as lèse-majesté: Hundreds arrested, massive fines during Australian lockdown protests.

    1. The fun begins when people decide they won’t be arrested.

      1. Or that the police have homes as well.

  37. Not even Donald himself can get these folks on board with the vaccine.

    Does he have some kind of secret information or advanced insights into it more than any member of that crowd?

    if not, why would they follow his admonitions (or anyone’s) on the subject?

    1. The political opposition have had the idea that people were blindly following Trump as a charismatic cult of personality. I don’t think that was ever really the case, but it certainly isn’t now.

  38. How some governors are using federal pandemic aid to encourage school choice.

    Silver linings everywhere.

  39. “To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning,”

    There, that looks better.

  40. “To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning,” suggests the Los Angeles Times editorial board. “For decades now, California leaders have been stuck in a low-density, single-family, not-in-my-backyard 20th century mindset. The result is a deep housing shortage that is driving more Californians into poverty, worsening inequality and hurting economic opportunity.”

    *looks around at all the other places in america where it’s mostly single-family housing…. sees none of the problems california is having especially the “poverty, worsening inequality and hurting economic opportunity”*

    Yeah the zoning, that’s gotta be it. Nothing else about california could be “hurting economic opportunity” here.

    jesus christ these communists have no shame

    1. If you want to destroy the nuclear family, destroy its housing.

    2. California lacks water. Until and unless there is a massive technological leap in water recycling, desalinization and the infrastructure required to make water flow uphill, rezoning for even more housing is DOA.

      The Proggies lump the real climate problems, which are water management, desertification and over-harvesting of ocean resources in with ‘climate change’ as cover for their collectivist agenda without actually addressing them. Fixing/dealing with actual problems would divert money from the looters and erode their careful crafted narrative that everyone must sacrifice for the long march to net-zero carbon to avert an existential threat.

    3. There are any number of problems with California, but it would help at least some to adopt Japanese zoning law, with its broad classifications and by-right development.

  41. This is a pretty shitty headline. He didn’t “overturn” anything as you even noted in the first sentence- he invalidated it.

    And not even that- he didn’t really do jack. He said it was unconstitutional which it is. Are you for law and order or not?

    If they want to do it, they should do it properly via amendment like stated. Good or bad, you should be following the letter of the law no?

    1. Is there an actual point here, or just typical lefty hysterics and bitchery?

      1. From shit-for-dinner?
        Why do you ask?

  42. even the injustices in California are somewhat delicious.

  43. “The current activation is for 18 aircraft: three each from American Airlines, Atlas Air, Delta Air Lines and Omni Air; two from Hawaiian Airlines; and four from United Airlines,” said the Pentagon in a statement.

    “Civilian planes would not fly into or out of Kabul, where a rapidly deteriorating security situation has hampered evacuation flights,” The New York Times reports.

    What rapidly deteriorating security situation? I thought the Taliban were reformed, woke, feminist, and pro-LGBTQI2+ rights.

    1. If all else fails Cap’n Buttigieg can sail his ship up to Kabul to the recue.

      1. While we’re at it maybe Robert Francis O’Rourke can try his “hell yes we’re coming for your AK-47” routine over there.

        1. Beto would never make it out of country. He is too tall to look like a chick while cowering in a burka.

  44. “To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning,” suggests the Los Angeles Times editorial board.

    But not in the LA Times’ editorial board’s neighborhood, of course.

    And not really to “save California”, but to make everyone else live in cramped quarters in higher crime areas, rather than opening more land to the single-family housing preferred by home buyers, especially as proven during the work-from-home lockdowns.

    1. Sounds like quite a project–maybe that’s what they could call the housing compounds!

      “Blocks” has a nice ring to it, too. Since it’s California, we can give them region-appropriate names like Heavenly Haven.

  45. LOL by now it should be obvious to even the dullest among us that California isn’t actually concerned with the welfare of their gig workers. Remember that Uber/Lyft offered to pay drivers $21/hr while working, but the state rejected it.

    https://reason.com/2019/09/06/uber-and-lyft-offer-drivers-a-21-minimum-wage-california-labor-activists-say-its-not-enough/

    (Sorry for the poor sourcing)

  46. https://mobile.twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1429883921492217861

    Narrative shift: the administration is committed to getting all Americans out **who want to come home**.

    September 1st: We got everyone out who wanted to come home. The rest of them really didn’t want to, or they’d have made it to the airport.

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