Television

Independence May Not Bring Glory to All American Spinoff

Elsewhere, Netflix is going to the cats and dogs.

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  • All American: Homecoming. The CW. Monday, July 5, 8 p.m.
  • Cat People. Available Wednesday, July 5, on Netflix.
  • Dogs. Available Wednesday, July 5, on Netflix.

Back in 2002, ABC had a sitcom called, believe it or not, Wednesday 9:30 (8:30 Central), set at a catastrophically failing network not unlike ABC itself at the time. After firing most its programmers, the network finally started letting a chimpanzee assemble its fall schedule by drawing names out of a box. I should clarify—the fictional network did this. ABC itself hired a TV critic (yes, I, too, shook my head) as its programming boss, who wound up making the chimpanzee look pretty smart. Her career lasted about as long as the run of Wednesday 9:30 (8:30 Central), which was tossed overboard with half its episodes unaired.

Anyway, I thought of Wednesday 9:30 (8:30 Central) as I watched All American: Homecoming, The CW's new teen soap. Homecoming, a spinoff of another teen soap called All American, won't actually join The CW schedule until 2022. Airing the first episode six months before you can watch the second one seems like the sort of programming move that a chimpanzee might make—if he'd had a couple of martinis for lunch and was also blindfolded.

Another possibility is that all the episodes will be scheduled six months apart, in hopes that viewers will forget how mind-numbingly, ossifyingly dull they are. The original show, All American, was a mediocre descendant of millennial teen melodramas like The O.C. and Gossip Girl. Homecoming is sort of a third-generation photocopy, smudgy and worn.

All American, scheduled to start its fourth season this fall, used a boinking-as-class-struggle formula that goes back at least to 1959's A Summer Place—poor pretty kids mixing it up with rich pretty kids, with a dash of sleazy parental flirtation to make the kids look less trashy—but was really perfected in The O.C. and its turn-of-the-last-century classmates. When it debuted in 2019, All American tossed race into the mix—its lead character is a superstar football player who transfers to a mostly white high school—but downplayed the class elements. The result was pretty draggy.

Homecoming further fades the formula, focusing on two attractive high-school athletes visiting predominantly black (and wholly fictional) Bringston University in Atlanta. Simone (Geffri Maya, playing her same character from All American), a former tennis whiz from Beverly Hills who hopes to climb back to the top after some time away, and Damon (Peyton Alex Smith, Legacies), a baseball star from Chicago whose domineering single mom want him to turn pro.

The kids are pleasant enough, but the scripts they've been handed are a pointless mess. With neither rich-man-poor-man conflict or racial tension to provoke tension, Homecoming pits its characters against senselessly mean college kids while spouting platitudes ("I'm helping the sport I love!"), acronyms (did everybody but me know that GAF signifies "grown-ass fun"?) and a lot of identity-politics sloganeering. If you're the sort of person who thinks it's a racist outrage that Simone's Beverly Hills history books didn't mention that Marion Wright Edelman was the first black woman admitted to the Mississippi bar, go ahead breathlessly await the full-time return of Homecoming next year. If not, just wander outside without a mask—you've got six months to catch Covid-19 before the show gets back.

Or you could sample a couple of amusing Netflix documentaries on house pets and their slaves—that is, us. I felt a horrifying moment of self-recognition while screening Cat People—geez, is that what I look like to other people? My cat buddy, Mr. Jay, cackled in affirmation, though in fairness I can't possibly be half as crazy as MoShow, the cat rapper who gave up a tech career to write heroic hip-hop odes ("Uh Ravioli chilling, yeah/Yeah we got it for thrill, yeah/Ravioli on chill, yeah/Ravioli got a thrill") about his five felines, one of whom is named, yes, Ravioli. "When I first started this," says MoShow wanly, "I didn't really have any support. People would say, 'Cat rapping, that's not a thing!'"  The hell, you say…

MoShow, however, is convinced even if nobody else gets it, the cats do. "Am I the cat god?" he asks one of his kitties, getting a meow in return. MoShow clearly took it as a "hell yes." To me and Mr. Jay, it sounded more like a death threat.

Dogs, which is just kicking off its second season, is somewhat less weird, "somewhat" being the operative word. The first episode concerns the Butler University sports mascot Butler Blue III, an English bulldog who is about to finish his eighth and final season on the job before passing the bone to Butler Blue IV in a ceremony reverently referred to as "the changing of the collar." From what I could see on Dogs, Butler sports fans may be in for some lean years. BB IV's main talents seem to be getting his head stuck in a carton of Chinese takeout, and falling asleep, not always in that order. Mr. Jay was not amused.

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  1. Do I need to have not watched All American before not watching All American: Homecoming to not know what’s going on, or will I not catch on pretty quickly?

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  2. I don’t get Netflix.

    1. I haven’t seen a lot I’ve wanted to watch on Netflix for a long time. On the other hand, I still watch Netflix more than I watch live TV.

      I’ve been watching a lot of baseball through the MLB app and reading a lot. I hope it’s just that we’re going through a quality lull based on so few quality projects being greenlighted during the pandemic–or so many things being rushed through production because people consumed so much digital media for so long during the pandemic.

      But there’s a lot of crap out there right now.

      Reviewing broadcast television is like being relegated to reviewing Top 40 radio. At this point, anything made for network broadcast is purposely meant to suck. What’s the intended audience for broadcast television even look like at this point? I’m picturing people who tune into their local FM classic rock radio station because they’re hoping to hear Stairway to Heaven for the 12 millionth time.

      Spammers, presumably, still send spam because there are still people out there who will buy impotence products from spam. That’s how I see the intended audience for broadcast television. The intended audience for broadcast television is like people who might buy things from spammers, and people who still create shows for broadcast television are like spammers.

      I know a guy that loves shitty fast food. McDonalds isn’t shitty enough for him. He needs to go to third rate fast food chains to get the really crappy food that he loves. Del Taco makes a cheeseburger, with the consistency of wet dog food, presumably from leftover taco meat that didn’t sell. The cheese they put on it looks like Velveeta–like what they put on their cheap nachos. He goes miles out of his way to go to Del Taco for lunch–just so he can get that burger. He loves it!

      That’s how I picture the people who are still watching new shows on broadcast television. I’ve get broadcast television for free through an antenna that’s connected to my wireless router. Now that I don’t plan to watch the NFL anymore, getting that signal for free is paying too much.

      1. A post from Ken that isn’t commanding libertarians to vote for Republicans!

        Congratulations!

            1. Fuck off sarcasmic, you cheap fucking troll.
              If you produced even 1/100th of the quality posts Ken does, then maybe we’d put up with your retarded garbage. But you don’t, so fuck off.

            2. It’s as if nobody’s ever seen this shirt.

              1. It is like you claim your terrible statements are jokes when called out for being a bitch.

              2. Because nobody has. And nobody would care if they had.

        1. Ken took the opportunity to trash the NFL though. He is still an obedient little Trump-Tard.

          1. Harsh words from a DNC fifty-center.

          2. “Now that I don’t plan to watch the NFL anymore…”

            Oh, you’re right. That was right-wing signaling on Ken’s part.

            1. “It’s a d0gWhiStLe!!!”

            2. Why would anyone watch the NFL unless they knew or were related to a player? When someone is on their deathbed do you think they will say, “I wish I spent more time watching guys wearing tights grabbing and pushing each other until some other guy blows a whistle. Then some guys talk about it. And then there us music with graphics. Followed by commercials.”
              I’m happy for Ken that he is transcending the NFL.

              1. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but as a red blooded patriot I love football and the NFL is the best football.

                I like college too, but it’s rigged towards the SEC and B1G. Outside of Ohio State the B1G blows and the SEC has inbred, backwards fans.

                1. BYU and Utah always have those big Samoan Mormons you love so much.

                2. Do you jump out of the barcalounger and gesticulate “first down” when your team achieves and important in the game first down?

          3. It’s helpful to append the following to every post made by Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2, formerly known as shreek:

            As a pedophile who posted child pornography at Reason.com…

            Observe:

            As a pedophile who posted child pornography at Reason.com, Ken took the opportunity to trash the NFL though. He is still an obedient little Trump-Tard.

            1. Two things:
              – You pretended it, not appended it.
              – You just called Ken a pedophile.

              1. Three things:

                -It’s p-r-e-p-e-n-d-e-d, not pretended you illiterate fucking moron
                Appended is perfectly correct despite being less specific; if you’re going to try to be a pedant it’s helpful to be able to spell the words you wish to nitpick or have at least a passing comprehension of their meaning
                -Since I specifically appended that text to a post of Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 as if he were speaking the text himself, it’s very clear who is being referred to as the pedophile to anyone with a passing comprehension of context in the English language. I’ll give you a pass on that one since you haven’t mastered spelling or word definitions quite yet, it’s just something to keep in mind when you enter your advanced studies in 5th grade basic English.

                1. Dee’s not very bright.

                  1. I’m waiting for him to come back with a cite from a medical dictionary and tell me that appended is still wrong just like he spent half a day trying to convince everyone that he wasn’t actually wrong about the chemical formula for water being HO2

                    1. He posted 2 definitions proving he was wrong about the word bipartisan when he finally found one that almost worked. Was hilarious.

                    2. That is now just HO2 under the bridge.

              2. LOL, spell correction changed “prepended” to “pretended”. One can always count on iPhone spell correction to undermine one’s argument at the worst time.

                1. Sure it did. Just like how it totally wasn’t you that made that dumb post about the formula for water, it was Tulpa.

              3. If you have children please drown them and then throw yourself off a cliff because we need to end your dumbass gene pool asap.

        2. Lol. So broken. And not a leftist folks!

      2. Spammers, presumably, still send spam because there are still people out there who will buy impotence products from spam. That’s how I see the intended audience for broadcast television. The intended audience for broadcast television is like people who might buy things from spammers, and people who still create shows for broadcast television are like spammers.

        And on the rare occasions I listen to Republican talk radio, I hear advertisements for ED drugs, food for preppers, and gold.

        What does that say about their audience?

        1. Nothing, unless all the ads on lefty stations for psychiatrists, healing crystals and divorce lawyers mean something.

        2. What a sad little man.

        3. Paranoia runs deep
          Into their life it did creep

          1. “The Russkies stole the election using Facebook”
            “Armed ‘insurrectionists’ killed a cop with a fire extinguisher”
            “Racism is resurgent in America”
            “We need to fight extremism by reporting our neighbors to the police”

            1. Looting is an expression of one’s right to protest.

        4. #ThingsThatDidntHappen

          Why are you posting this absolute garbage in multiple threads?

        5. That they have enough money to purchase prescription drugs without using Medicaid and that they don’t fuck their children like you do?

        6. AND THEN EVERYONE CLAPPED!

          This reference is nearly as old as Mean Girls. I wonder if our resident netsec expert and programming guru will get it.

        7. And on the rare occasions I listen to Republican talk radio, I hear advertisements for ED drugs, food for preppers, and gold.

          What does that say about their audience?

          I would say that they were the ones that had toilet paper during the great TP apocalypse last year, and their investments are doing fairly well.

          1. Sorry about your ED.

            1. nOtICe hOW aLl thEy pOSt aBoUT mE iS pERsoNaL atTaCkS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

              Good thing sarcasmic always takes the high road.

              It’s true bro, not everyone retains the strong, virile, throbbing, turgid erections characteristic of strapping vegan college boys and our 80 year old president.

              If I had fucked my own daughter I’m not sure I’d ever be able to get it up again personally, but that’s what makes you so uniquely you.

      3. Yes, the Del Taco burger is second rate. But the crinkle cut fries are great.

      4. You connect your antenna to your wireless router? Hmm…I never thought to do that.

        I have my HDTV antenna connected to my TV directly and my wireless router provides my Internet and streaming services to my laptop connected to my TV via HDMI. Then I use the signal control on my remote to go between HDTV and Internet.

        If I could do what you do successfully, maybe I could skip some steps, And maybe the miles and miles of Internet coaxial cable could provide additional HD channels. Thanks, Ken! You’ve just given me a new Mad Scientist project to attempt!

        1. There are some devices required in that connection, the most most well known are Tablo and AirTV.

          Locast isn’t available in my area, yet, but if Locast is available in your area, you should definitely use that instead.

          The reason ABC News, CBS News, and NBC News can keep pushing awful content, despite drawing such tiny audiences, is because the cable companies are required to carry their broadcast signals by federal law–even though your local broadcast station is required to broadcast its signal for free as a condition of not being forced to pay for the spectrum they use in their license. The most profitable local broadcast stations (in markets with high cable subscription rates) have mostly been bought out by their parents at Disney, NBC Universal, and Viacom CBS.

          As we stop subscribing to cable, we cut them off from the benefits of their rent-seeking and force them to compete for ratings–rather than propagandize the public with biased content and far less concern about whether anyone is actually watching. One of the shittiest things about cable is that you’re forced to pay for channels that you don’t even watch. If you can get all the same content for free with the Locast app and a Roku player, you should do that.

          1. “As of June 2021, the service was available to 174 million viewers in media markets representing 53 percent of the U.S. population, as well as across Puerto Rico.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locast#Availability

            Look at the list of cities in that link.

            Last I checked, Sling is $30 without any local broadcast stations. I knew someone who was paying $200 a month for cable, and was able to watch everything he used to for $30 a month plus Locast. Another live cable streaming service without local broadcast networks is Philo. Last I checked, they were $20 a month. Now that Discovery+ is live, I believe that service is $4.99 a month with ads. ESPN+ is $5.99. You don’t even need cable to watch cable channels anymore.

            You may find that if you subscribe to a couple of those smaller streaming services, like Discovery and ESPN, you can watch everything you were watching before, cut $185 a month from your cable bill, and use that to finance yourself a motorcycle, an RV, go to some shows, fly to Hawaii, or do some great road trips on the weekends instead. If we can avoid giving that money to CNN, MSNBC, and the broadcast networks, we should.

          2. Much oblidged on the tip. My HD viewing is mostly for channels like DecadesTV, MoviesTV, Heroes&Icons, Grit, GetTV, and LaffTV. Local news I can usually catch on the video channels for the local station’s Web Site.

            (I wish I could get DecadesTV again; they are the only station I know of with episodes of the Unwoke, Un-PC, iconoclastic, uproariously funny Rowan & Martin’s Laugh-In!)

            1. I just checked, and I get all that over my antenna through Tablo. If Locast is available in your area, that’s even better. Locast put a giant antenna up in your town, so it can pull all the free signals in without worrying about obstructions, and then broadcasts it through their app, which you can download on Android, Roku, various smart TVs, or you can watch through your browser if you want by going to their website. It will use your IP address to check your location, and it will let you watch anything that is broadcast for free in your zip code.

              If you’re really into free TV, you might also download and check out Tubi, Xumo, and Pluto. Tubi is mostly streaming a collection of movies, and Pluto has linear programming like broadcast TV–with dozens of channels devoted to things like Grit, LaughTV, etc. There are channels themed on decades, too–all running at the same time.

              I would be surprised if there was anything you were looking for in terms of free TV that you can’t find for free on Locast and/or Pluto. Get yourself a Roku player, downloading those apps is easy once you plug it in, and you’ll be all set.

              1. Correction: I didn’t see decades, but I saw 70s, 80s, and 90s movies on Pluto. They also seem to have Laugh-In on demand. The reason they don’t broadcast those channels anymore may be because they licensed it to Pluto exclusively.

                There are hundreds of channels on Pluto. There are channels devoted to westerns. There’s a channels that’s nothing but Star Trek–the old one, TNG, etc. There are channels for everything. And its all free of charge.

                1. I use Pluto and Tubi already and they are excellent! I didn’t know Laugh-In was on Pluto. I’ll check their line-up again.

                  Crackle has a promising selection of programs and movies, but for some reason, it won’t retain my login info.

                  Tablo and Roku are next on my list of services and gimcracks to see about. Anything the makes television and entertainment more á la carte is always welcome by me. Again, thanks for the recommendations.

      5. We do have more choices now. Am guessing network tv and cable stations are probably down on viewership from a decade ago.

        Del Rio worse than JiB?

        1. Cable and satellite subscribing households in the U.S. peaked about ten years ago at 105 million. The current number of cable subscribers is around 84 million, and the trend is accelerating. They’re still losing millions of subscribers every quarter.

          https://www.groundedreason.com/the-rise-of-streaming-and-fall-of-cable-tv/

          CNN and MSNBC are in deep shit. If the only money they made was based on the size of the audience that was watching their shows (instead of the number of people who were subscribed to cable and satellite but didn’t watch their shows), they would be forced to compete on content. Instead, they go out of their way to offend half their potential audience. That’s just not a viable business plan long term–when your captive customers are breaking out of jail through streaming.

          1. They need to provide a solid streaming service that brings in $ or they will go the way of magazines and newspapers.
            Think ESPN is in that group too.

            1. Yes.

              It used to be that distribution was so expensive most cities–even the large one–could only support one newspaper. Getting your newspaper to a large enough scale to compete with an established player meant duplicating their distribution network at the same scale as your competitor’s before you could deliver your first paper at the same cost, before you could command the same advertising rates as your competitor, etc.

              The Chicago Tribune wasn’t competing with the New York Times or The Washington Post, and then, suddenly, the internet happened, and they were competing with every newspaper in the country. I’ve read that there is only a tiny slice of the newspaper reporters in this country than there was 20 years ago.

              That will happen to cable and broadcast news as streaming continues to accelerate. They had a natural monopoly in each local market with the cable companies. Streaming is the market finding its way around the cable monopoly. Ten years ago, I had one cable company and two satellite companies from which to choose, and they weren’t even trying to differentiate themselves on price.

              Now I have nine streaming services to choose from, a cable service, two satellite services, and I can choose not to subscribe to any of them and still subscribe to the cable channels I want via their streaming apps directly. If I were working in the newsrooms of CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC, I wouldn’t be buying a new house anytime soon. They’re about to see their captive customers dump cable left and right. It’s gonna be a stampede when people can watch their home teams without cable, too.

              And the news media is massively unpopular in this country. They haven’t focused on pleasing customers for a long time because the local cable monopoly protected them. A million new subscribers per quarter cutting the cord and saving $75 a month. The cable companies won’t be able to afford to pay the same carriage rates for long.

              1. In major markets there’s just one or two internet providers, usually cable TV companies doing a second line of business. So you reduce your TV bill, then increase your Internet bill to maintain the speeds necessary for streaming.

                In the end, it costs the same.

                1. Internet service is not as expensive as television service, and there are more options to get away from the cable companies all the time, too. If fixed wireless isn’t already available in your town, I suspect it soon will be–and so will 5G. Meanwhile, SpaceX, Amazon, and others are putting constellations of satellites up to sell you internet access as well. Competition is coming to your town if it isn’t already there.

                  1. P.S. An awful lot of people pay for far more bandwidth than they really need for video.

                    If you’re paying for more than 10 Mbps per TV you plan to be watching at the same time, you’re probably buying too muhc.

                    10 Mbps is enough for a single 4k stream.

    2. There’s some decent stuff on there. Watched “Tomorrow War” yesterday. Would recommend it to anyone who likes science fiction action movies.

      1. Tomorrow War is on Amazon dumbfuck.

        1. Haha sarc’s already shitfaced.

          1. Still is, not already. Sqrsly was loud and drunk yesterday. His team got up w jeff and white knight was hilarious.

      2. It was awful. It made no sense. It was like watching Nicholas Cage in a National Treasure movie–with one improbable event compounded on another. In order to find the City of Gold hidden under Mt. Rushmore, first we’ll need to infiltrate Buckingham Palace and then kidnap the President of the United States!

        In Tomorrow War, the suspension of disbelief fell apart before the first half of the movie, but by the end, it was so ridiculous, it was laughable. SPOILER ALERT, they somehow managed to fly through Russian airspace–while Russia is on high alert–and blow the glacier off the top of the spaceship–when the whole premise was that global warming removing the glacier is what freed the deadly menace? The only way that would have made sense was if their efforts to destroy the menace were paradoxically responsible for releasing it.

        But noooOOOooo. That was the final solution.

        And that’s just the ending. The beginning was just as absurd. If you can go back in time, you wouldn’t recruit people from the past to fight for you in the future. You’d prepare people in the past to fight the menace when it was weaker and just getting started–with or without a biological weapon to destroy them. If your efforts to fight in the future are futile, then you don’t send humanity from the past into a hopeless future. You send the people in the future back to fight in the past when you can win.

        It was a terrible scifi film. I sat through the whole thing because I couldn’t believe it was so monumentally terrible.

        1. SPOILER ALERT

          P.S. It was also a global warming propaganda film, with forced sacrifice being promoted specifically in terms of the draft and the heroism of the people–like Gail the snail–who were drafted.

          1. Trust Ken to turn everything into politics.

            Tell me, how many actors, directors, musicians and such do you boycott because of their politics? Don’t tell me none. Let’s see. Sean Penn? I bet you’ve boycotted him for sucking up to that socialist pig in Venezuela. Who else?

            1. Does Sean Penn still make movies?

              1. The main character says at the beginning that he wanted his life to mean something. He’s a teacher who’s dealing with a class that’s given up on the future because they know the world will be destroyed in their adulthood–for reasons that turn out to be the result of global warming.

                When he’s finally drafted to go fight a pointless war for the future–forced to do so or be thrown in prison and have one of his family members take his place–he find that his life finally does have meaning in the future. Thank goodness he held on to his optimism that something can be done to save us! And finding that meaning in his life is all thanks to him being forced to fight for the future by the government.

                The people who are drafted to fight in the future war are all average people–not soldiers–but, like the character that plays Gail “the Snail” on It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, she sacrifices herself in order to try to save the rest of them. They mostly believe their efforts to be pointless otherwise, but the government told them they were all heroes–and as they continue to unselfishly sacrifice themselves for each other and the future of humanity, that’s what they become!

                The central character ultimately finds out that if he hadn’t been drafted, he’d have died anyway, possibly of suicide, because that other version of him couldn’t find any meaning in his life over time. He lost his belief that he could change things for the good of humanity. Being forced to sacrifice for others and the future is ultimately what gives his life meaning, and in the end, he goes back to his own time to save the world from the results of climate change!

                The reason the plot is so convoluted is because it’s written to make the argument that our lives have meaning when we make sacrifices for each other and for future generations, and the government’s role in forcing us to make sacrifices for each other and the future is central to the plot. The whole movie is propaganda for progressivism, but that isn’t why the movie stinks. That’s just why the plot is so convoluted and stupid.

                I’ve seen excellent propaganda works that try to do the same thing, with The Queen’s Gambit being a recent example. It’s a great story with an excellent plot, excellent acting, excellent directing, and excellent editing. It’s also communist propaganda in the purest sense–an epic tale about how an orphan girl went from being a helpless, victimized individual in a capitalist system, where people compete with each other, to a committed communist in a system where everyone is working together. I hate the fucking message, but the work is of excellent quality.

                The reason the plot of Future War sucks isn’t because its progressive message stinks. The reason the plot of Future War sucks is because its own premises are so ridiculous and compound on each other in such absurd ways, it can’t even be taken seriously enough to enjoy it as an action film. It’s insulting to our intelligence to pretend these people would do these ridiculous things or say these ridiculous things. The plot and its premises don’t make any sense.

                It would have been better as a pure sci fi action movie with no real plot at all. That would have at least been enjoyable. The last battle is enjoyable from an action sequence perspective. Don’t waste more than an hour of your life drudging through the stupidity of Future War just to get to that. Wait for the clip to show up on YouTube instead–and you’ll see the best part of the movie without suffering all the nausea inducing plot holes, irrationalities, and progressive platitudes.

                1. So is Sean Penn in this movie?

                2. Richard (he will forever be Richard, his character in Veep, to me) was excellent in a support role.

                3. Wow. A screen and a half long comment from a guy who says he doesn’t overanalyze movies.

                  btw: tl; dr;

                  1. “btw: tl; dr;”

                    Because you’re an idiot.
                    Watching you trying to troll Ken is like watching a sewer rat trying to bully a giraffe.

                  2. “A screen and a half long comment from a guy who says he doesn’t overanalyze movies.

                    —-sarcasmic

                    sarcasmic can’t seem to do anything but make personal attacks anymore.

                    He doesn’t criticize anything in the analysis. There’s no claim that my analysis has the plot points wrong or that something was mischaracterized in the analysis.

                    Just an attack on me personally for analyzing.

                    How many times have you been correctly called out for an ad hominem attack in the last three days, sarcasmic? Are we at a dozen now? It’s really hard to tell the difference between someone who constantly engages in ad hominem attacks and a troll. You understand that, right?

                    Have you just committed yourself to trolling now for some reason?

                    1. How can I be ad hominem guy if I didn’t comment on your analysis?

                      You apparently think any insult or unflattering observation is an ad hominem. It’s not.

                      Ad hominem is saying someone is wrong because of who they are.

                      Had I said “Ken, your analysis of the movie is crap because you’ve got a stick up your ass,” that would have been an ad hominem.

                      Instead I said that I liked the movie regardless of your analysis, and that you must be a really boring person if political subtleties in a scifi action flick offend you.

                    2. “Have you just committed yourself to trolling now for some reason?”

                      He’s truly broken. I actually almost feel bad. I didn’t think pointing out his jokes weren’t funny would have such a negative effect on his mental health, but here we are.

                    3. And, no Ken, you haven’t called me out on ad hominems.

                      Not at all.

                      Ad hominems are when I make a comment about CRT and JesseAz says I can’t be taken seriously because I’m friends with jeff or something. That is a textbook ad hominem. He may as well have said I’m wrong because I’m a poo-poo head.

                      “Attacking” you for analyzing is not ad hominem. Saying your analysis is wrong because you voted for Trump is an ad hominem.

                      Criticism is not ad hominem. Insults are not ad hominem. You want ad hominem? Read the turds that the trolls leave after all of my comments. That’s ad hominem.

                    4. Pointing out implications and logic that you don’t like isn’t ad hominem either.

                      For example you say that anyone who votes for Democrat is voting for totalitarianism, describe Republicans as authoritarians, and say I’m making a personal attack when I point out that by your own logic a vote for a Republican is a vote for authoritarianism.

                      That’s not an ad hominem. I’m not calling you an authoritarian. Heck, I’m not saying anything about you as a person. Just pointing out the implications of your own words.

                      Go learn what ad hominem means before throwing it around again.

                      You embarrass yourself.

                    5. Lol. I actually said below that your take on crt was actually sane and then asked why you decided to back up a pedophile and a sophist who has been Ying about crt for weeks.

                      Holy fuck, do you do anything but make strawman arguments?

                    6. Here is the comment sarcadmic is lying about. As usual he has to be a victim instead.

                      JesseAz
                      July.5.2021 at 5:46 pm
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      First you defend the pedophile. Then you defend jeff. Lol.

                      Even in this thread you responded that you understood what CRT is. Going against what Jeff has pushed for 2 weeks now. Yet you retreat back to defending him.

                      How lonely are you?

                      I’ll admit when sarcasmic comes up for a quick breath of sanity. But he relishes victimized so much he can’t help but retreat back to tears and the defense of sophists here.

                    7. I see some grey troll turds. I’ll bet a dollar they’re something along the lines of “you’re wrong because [insert something I never said or did].” You know, as in actual ad hominems, not the insults and observations from me that you take as such.

                    8. You know, as in actual ad hominems”

                      That would be strawmanning, not ad hominem, you stupid fuck.
                      You’re too retarded to be here, sarcasmic. Try 9gag for something in your intellectual timbre. It’s over there ===>

                4. I’m sadly in a position to confirm that Ken’s description and assessment of The Tomorrow War are 100% accurate. I hadn’t considered Queen’s Gambit as propaganda before. My wife and I have been rewatching that with our daughter, who is seeing it for the first time and loving it. I agree Queen’s Gambit is excellent, but if it’s propaganda, it doesn’t push that hard enough for me to have noticed it, and I’m pretty sensitive to that. (Nabokov was contacted by a magazine once to write, at $2 per word or something like that, his opinion of the artist’s responsibility to society. He wrote back with a single word, “none,” and then said he expected the check for his $2 to be mailed promptly. I share Nabokov’s perspective on this and long for a return to good stories well told. Queen’s Gambit was a breath of fresh air in this regard.)

                  1. 1) She keeps losing against the Russians because she’s an individual fighting against the entire Russian system.

                    2) The Russians keep beating her because they’re working together instead of a system in which individuals are all competing against each other.

                    3) All the people in her life that fail, they all fail because they’re individuals trying to make it alone–the woman that adopts her is one example. Her mother even tries to kill her because she can’t make it alone.

                    4) She refuses to go to Russia if the money comes from an organization that opposes communism. She finally gets to go because her childhood friend sacrifices her own dream for someone else’s.

                    5) When she gets to Russia, she realizes that the Russians are all working together to defeat them again. It isn’t her against her opponent. It’s her against every chess mind in the Soviet Union.

                    6) She only wins when her friends band together so that they’re all working together–and she no longer needs to depend on her individual efforts anymore.

                    7) The movie ends when she refuses to make a speech against communism and, instead, gets out of the limo and joins the regular people of Russia. She stares into the camera and dares you to defeat her because she’s no long an individual fighting for herself. She’s a communist, and to defeat her you have to defeat the entire communist system that’s behind her and that she is now a part of.

            2. Are you saying the movie wasn’t about the heroic results of forcibly drafting people in the fight to save humanity from extinction–because of the results of global warming?

              You’d need to be willfully stupid to ignore the politics of the plot.

              1. It’s a common theme in tv and movies these days.

                It must be really infuriating to judge everything through a political lens, and never being able to just sit back and be entertained.

                1. The burden of being smarter than you is one that 7.6 billion people just have to live with sarcasmic.

                  1. *hearty chuckle*

                2. They did a terrible job of it in this case.

            3. This from a stupid piece of shit self-confessed pathetic unemployed drug addict and alcoholic welfare queen who lost custody of his kids in a divorce he still won’t take any responsibility for because he got caught fucking his underage daughter and still thinks Mean Girls, Jon Stewart, Ministry and Bevis and Butthead are culturally relevant.

          2. Social programming in movies and tv shows?!?! Say it isn’t so.

            1. Ken must have very little to watch being that those themes are worked into most movies and shows these days. That or he screams and throw stuff in a political rage.

              1. Man, what a loser! He can’t even suspend disbelief long enough to veg out on the couch of his section 8 apartment watching Boogerman while drunk off his ass at 8:30 in the morning! Imagine how embarrassed he must be!

                1. Come on now. Him and his best 10 acquaintances rented a half mile air bnb the other week. He bragged about it.

                    1. Zimbabwe Dollars.

                      Also, a half mill isn’t particularly fancy these days. During the last boom here my house was worth more than that.

                    2. Yeah mine’s at 400k. Bought it for 185 in ‘11 when everything was at rock bottom too. Poor sarc thought it was impressive that he rented a house worth that.

                  1. They apparently built ARs. Or ghost guns. Or something like that.

                    1. That got me curious enough to unmute JesseAz for a moment. As usual he was full of shit. Muted him again. Carry on.

                    2. Lol. So many lies buddy. Sorry you live as a forever victim.

                    3. I remember seeing that original post. You got hammered a bit on it so I avoided poking that bear.

                    4. I literally can’t say “Boo” without JesseAz, Mother’s Lament, R Mac, and Tulpa’s sock of the day doing their best to be mean. What sad little lives they must have if saying disgusting things to people on the internet makes them feel better about themselves.

        2. “It was awful. It made no sense. In order to find the City of Gold hidden under Mt. Rushmore, first we’ll need to infiltrate Buckingham Palace and then kidnap the President of the United States!”

          Sarcasmic has no comprehension of history before WW2, and can’t into geography, so that probably made perfect sense to him.

          1. If you aren’t an illiterate moron who can willfully turn of your brain and just enjoy some good old fashioned wholesome Marxist propaganda then you’re a stupid rabid Republican partisan. You have to learn to consume the most mindless entertainment ever created in order to reach the level of cultural sophistication of a self-confessed homeless drug addict and alcoholic who thinks a movie about teenage girls is still a cultural touchstone 18 years after it was released.

            1. Izzat chu, Becky?

              1. It’s Tulpa.

        3. There was a combat soldier, woman… of color, with carefully manicured dreads. That’s always very realistic.

    3. Let me rephrase that.

      If you are someone who overanalyzes everything, has no imagination or sense of humor, expects fiction to be fact, takes everything literally, and is otherwise no fun to be around, then the movie sucks.

      If you can take a fiction movie at face value and be entertained, then it’s a great flick.

      1. Over analyzed?!

        The basic premise was shit.

        I’ve seen comedy sci-fi–that’s supposed to be ridiculous–nothing as obviously ridiculous as Tomorrow War.

        Of the top critics who didn’t pan it (53% splat on the tomatometer), even they reviewed it like it was an unintentional Sharknado movie without the humor.

        “I took one look at The Tomorrow War’s dopey premise and knew I was all in.”

        —-New York Magazine

        “It’s the kind of sci-fi blockbuster where a sober military scientist yells, “Someone get a harpoon on that tentacle!”

        —-AARP

        “[A] gloriously moronic picture

        —-TV Guide

        https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_tomorrow_war/reviews?type=top_critics

        Those are the positive reviews. The review that gave the movie a thumb’s up!

        Face it. You liked a shitty movie, and you recommended it to others.

        1. Remind me of when I gave a shit about what the critics said? Oh yeah, never.

          1. You should be embarrassed.

            1. He publicly admits to being a homeless alcoholic and drug addict who receives welfare. If he were traveling at the speed of light it would take him approximately until the heat death of the universe to come within a million kilometers of the self awareness required to be embarrassed.

              Be sure to remind him that the opinions of self-styled experts are of no value the next time he insists that not wearing a mask while vaccinated is putting his life in danger and you should be gunned down by Apache attack helicopters for your insolence against THE SCIENCE™

          2. “If you are someone who overanalyzes everything, has no imagination or sense of humor, expects fiction to be fact, takes everything literally, and is otherwise no fun to be around, then the movie sucks.”

            —-sarcasmic

            Actually, there are lots of people who thought the movie was awful–even the people who saw the movie and didn’t hate it, seem to think the plot was moronic. So, no, it wasn’t about anything having to do with me personally, and if you dob’t understand why quoting several of them as examples is a response to what you wrote, then that may be because you’re stupid.

            1. ATTENTION EVERYONE!

              KEN ALMIGHTY IS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!

              IF YOU DISAGREE THEN YOU ARE STUPID!

              IT IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATION!

              1. If it’s entertaining then it’s entertaining. I don’t care about political spin, a believable story, time travel paradox, or any of that. Those who do must live very sad lives.

                See sarcasmic understands the nuance of subjective taste and thus eschews making judgments about people like that despicable Rethuglican Ken does!

              2. LOL
                The lack of self awareness is hilarious.

                1. Show me where I call people stupid for not agreeing with me. Ken ends almost every conversation I have with him by calling me stupid.

                  Yes I called him uptight and anal for judging entertainment by politics, but not stupid.

                  1. Says the guy who cries and makes strawman comments about every poster here not named Jeff or white Mike.

                  2. Why the fuck would I waste my time posting examples of your personality disorder?
                    You do you, sarcasmic.

                    1. In other words you’re full of shit. But I already knew that.

                    2. Think whatever you want, it doesn’t affect me.
                      Everyone reading these comments can come to their own conclusions.

              3. Actually, yeah. When you hit someone with an ad hominem attack, and they respond with examples showing why you’re wrong–and you miss the whole point of why you’re wrong, that’s like the definition of stupidity.

                “If you are someone who overanalyzes everything, has no imagination or sense of humor, expects fiction to be fact, takes everything literally, and is otherwise no fun to be around, then the movie sucks.”

                —-sarcasmic

                Do you really not see that the absurd and ridiculous plot holes in the movie–amid all its other failures–are what they are regardless of anything having to do with me personally?

                My analysis of the movie had nothing in it that could be explained by your ad hominem fallacy, and if you don’t understand why, well–irrational thinking is by definition stupid.

                You might have argued that the movie wasn’t intended to be taken seriously–on its own terms–but that wasn’t the case. That movie attempted to be heart felt and profound.

                We were supposed to learn something from that movie about the role of government in forcing us to make sacrifices for the greater good, our obligations to future generations, and what’s supposed to make our lives authentic and meaningful. And it did a terrible job–even on its own terms. It was a convoluted hunk of absurd and unbearably obtuse shit–no matter whether I liked the message or not.

                1. What sarcasmic said:

                  “If you are someone who overanalyzes everything, has no imagination or sense of humor, expects fiction to be fact, takes everything literally, and is otherwise no fun to be around, then the movie sucks.”

                  And Ken took that to be a personal attack, meaning of course, Ken identifies with the “someone” who “overanalyzes everything, has no imagination or sense of humor, expects fiction to be fact, takes everything literally, and is otherwise no fun to be around”. Huh. Who’d’ve thunk it.

                  We were supposed to learn something from that movie about the role of government in forcing us to make sacrifices for the greater good,….

                  Oh, so now Ken wants us to think that it is some sort of fucking documentary, not a work of fiction with time travel and space monster invaders.

                  IT’S A FUCKING ACTION MOVIE, KEN. Made for a mass audience. Not some indie art project.

                  YOU are the one elevating it to something other than what it is. Good heavens, get over yourself.

                  1. IT’S A FUCKING ACTION MOVIE, KEN.

                    Exactly. Upthread he said that Nick Cage’s National Treasure was awful because it was so implausible.

                    Well, duh.

                    1. Chemjeff and Sarcasmic don’t apparently recognize levels of quality in sci-fi action films or why a person might prefer one to another, but wow, they sure do take it personally when other people do recognize these things. To help them out, here’s some dummy text for future comments:

                      “You made a qualitative judgment. How dare you?!?”

                2. Do you really not see that the absurd and ridiculous plot holes in the movie

                  Sure did. The absurdity made it good.

                  My analysis of the movie…

                  Well, that’s your problem. I didn’t analyze it. I simply sat back and enjoyed the fictional ride. I thought it was a good movie in that I found it to be entertaining and not boring.

                  According to you the only possible explanation is that I’m stupid, because only a stupid person doesn’t enraged by the political subtleties in a fucking science fucking fiction fucking movie produced by fucking Amazon!

                  And now I’m ad hominem guy, because only a stupid person overlooks the holes in a movie, takes for granted that anything involving time travel will have more paradoxes than you can wave a stick at, ignores the stupid global warming theme that’s in almost everything these days, doesn’t fly into a rage over the politics of a fucking fiction movie, and doesn’t let critics determine what I think?

                  Jesus H Christ on a skateboard, man! Lighten the fuck up!

        2. Ken probably thought An American Carol was top-shelf cinema.

          1. Hey look, Lying Jeffy’s making up random shit and pretending it makes a point.

          2. Chemjeff probably thought Supersize Me was biting social commentary.

        3. “It’s the kind of sci-fi blockbuster where a sober military scientist yells, “Someone get a harpoon on that tentacle!”

          —-AARP

          Wait, we are supposed to care what the AARP thinks about movies now?

          1. He was posting the positive reviews you retarded fuck.

            1. Yeah, even the positive reviews are saying that it might be okay for some people–even though it sucks.

              When I think of something as “gloriously moronic”, I think of it as like the old game “Serious Sam”, where the plot mostly consists of monsters running straight at you at full speed while you blast them to bits with a shotgun, chain gun, or splatter them with a chain saw. There’s no plot. It’s gloriously moronic.

              Army of Darkness is gloriously moronic.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFkARs9CHaE

              Schwarzenegger’s Predator was a gloriously moronic film. Just get out the popcorn and enjoy the ride.

              Future War wasn’t gloriously moronic. It was just moronic.

              1. How far the lefties have fallen, that we’ve got a board filled with posts being upset that you don’t like a movie.

                And everything Bruce Campbell does in the Evil Dead franchise is glorious.

                1. The series is awesome. And so was burn notice with him

          2. Why not, you think that 24 year old undergrads in elementary education should be able to set whatever curricula they wish without the consent or consultation of the parents of their students, the taxpayers in their district, or the local or state government. And that racist black cops should be able to shoot unarmed women in the face for misdemeanor trespass. And that the American Bar Association is the final authority on the definitions of words and the practical application of critical race theory.

          3. I’ve never given a shit about what critics say. If it’s entertaining then it’s entertaining. I don’t care about political spin, a believable story, time travel paradox, or any of that. Those who do must live very sad lives.

            1. Those who do must live very sad lives.

              They do say ignorance is bliss. Although you’re honestly the most impotently rage-filled, neurotic, pathetic little scared bitch I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Maybe ignorance is just ignorance.

            2. You spent almost 25 posts not caring in this very thread.

      2. The target demographic for Tomorrow War is a younger audience.

        There’s nothing wrong with that, of course. I’m going to watch it eventually because I like cheesey monsters.

        1. * sigh* Thread fail. That was meant for sarc.

          1. Oh, I get it. You’re saying I’m immature. Cute.

            It’s cheesy. Total cheese. Got more holes than a slice of Swiss.

            And it’s fucking entertaining as hell as long as you don’t have a stick up your ass.

            1. …or a brain in your head.

            2. No, you didn’t get it.

              There’s nothing wrong with that, of course. I’m going to watch it…

              That was neither a personal attack nor a criticism. It was an opinion about the movie under discussion, as well as a declaration of intent. I like cheesey monster movies. I don’t care if it’s an Ed Wood ‘Plan 9 from Outer Space’ or last years Underwater. I like them.

              Being an old white nerd guy, I am most definitely not the target audience for the vast majority of movies that are released in today’s market. Most people that I know do not share my appreciation for large rubbery monsters.

              1. This one isn’t unintentionally cheesy.

                I love a good cheap ass horror flick or sci fi movie myself.

                That wasn’t the issue here.

              2. Part of sarc being broken is he sees personal attacks behind even benign comments about a movie.

                1. To be sure, that’s a relatively minor part of his being broken compared to his drug addiction, alcoholism, homelessness, welfare usage, and child molestation.

              3. That was neither a personal attack nor a criticism.

                I hope that after reading the venom directed at me by muted trolls you can understand why I’d assume it was an attack. My apologies.

                1. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor sarcasmic the eternal victim. You should watch Mean Girls for a 400th time and cry.

                  It’s weird how you’re so persecuted by the malicious insults of people who you supposedly muted months ago. Then again, you permanently retired to Glibertarians.com and then returned within 48 hours after you had to ask them how to underline text in HTML due to your advanced training in netsec and programming. Lmfao.

                2. How would you know it was venom?

                  Lol.

                3. It’s like you’re a 13 year old Emo chick. Or someone 13 year old Emo chicks would make fun of.

                4. Wow. Tulpa felt the need to use two socks in response to that comment. I’m flattered.

            3. Throwing a childish tempter tantrum because you took offense at a post that actually agreed with you because you were too fucking stupid to comprehend what was said will certainly shore up that reputation of you being immature. If you really want to show him who’s boss, tell him how Jon Stewart, Tina Fey and Bevis and Butthead are cultural touchstones.

              It’s amazing, you’d think somebody who fucks little kids would have at least SOME fucking idea what youth culture actually looks like.

        2. As I watched the first 30 minutes or so, I was hoping the whole time that the future-alien-invasion would turn out to be a ruse, a lie used for some sort of evil ends.
          If they’d wanted to write an indictment of totalitarianism, they set it up well in the beginning.
          But rationality has no place in modern Hollywood.

          1. Not everything is political. Jeez. I’d say lighten up, but considering no day of yours is complete without (at least) two minutes of Twitter hate, those would be wasted words.

            1. You have to consider where Nardz is coming from:

              The movie is produced by Amazon (presumed enemy of Team Red)
              The main character is a black female combat soldier (evidence of excessive wokism)

              I mean, there’s two strikes right there. Does it really matter what the plot is, from Nardz’s point of view?

              1. A draft in the face of human extinction is promoting fascist totalitarianism, don’t forget that.

              2. That’s exactly like your formula for voting, chemleft. Are you sure you’re not just projecting?

              3. Chris Pratt is a black woman? Are we talking about the same movie?

              4. You think the main character is black and female? That’s pretty funny.

              1. That’s why I don’t mute you.

      3. The only funny thing you’ve ever said is claiming you are funny. Lol.

      4. IF YOU STUPID REPUBLICANS JUST THOUGHT LESS, TURNED OFF YOUR BRAINS, AND MINDLESSLY CONSUMED ENTERTAINMENT WITH AN OVERT MARXIST POLITICAL AGENDA YOU COULD BE AS HAPPY AND WELL ADJUSTED AS A 50 YEAR OLD SELF-CONFESSED HOMELESS DRUG ADDICT ALCOHOLIC WELFARE QUEEN WHO LOST CUSTODY OF HIS KIDS BECAUSE HE GOT CAUGHT FUCKING HIS UNDERAGE DAUGHTER AND SPENDS 14-18 HOURS PER DAY SHITPOSTING ON A POORLY TRAFFICKED WEB FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        1. To be fair… I’m kind of interested in seeing or hearing about the nurse he is interested in also dating a cop to see his complete melt down.

          It isnt a shocker his exes tend to go for more alpha types.

          1. I’m guessing he wanted to be a cop and couldn’t cut it.

  3. How many movies and how much TV do the reason editors watch? Youre admitting to even watching terrible shows. Is this why all the articles lack basic editorial concepts like checking of primary sources?

  4. Fox News is squeezing this CRT nontroversy for all its worth.

    Why is CRT even a thing? It shouldn’t be. Any US History class that surveys the 19th Century is de facto CRT. Systemic racism was fucking obvious and bled into the 20th Century with Jim Crow.

    Gotta scare the WWC with more boogeymen is all CRT is.

    1. Not shocked you are lying about what CRT is and pushing the lefts media narrative that it is just history. Dozens of examples have been linked here. But they were less important than all your open child porn links.

      1. A person can’t have a decent debate with you QAnon types.

        DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL RACISTS AND PEDOPHILES! IF YOU DON’T LIKE TRUMP YER A COMMIE DEM PEDO!

        1. Who were you responding to? Oh, JesseAz. All he does is goad you into respond to things you never said or did. It’s tiresome. He’s best on mute, that way you aren’t tempted to defend yourself from his lies.

          1. Ironic response to dildo’s comment that literally made up something that Jesse didn’t say.

          2. Remember how you didn’t understand what Strawmanning was, sarc?
            Buttplug’s quote was Strawmanning.

          3. JesseAz is absolutely someone to be muted. I love how he still ankle bites replies to my comments even though I have muted him. He’s a GNAT.

            1. Says the squawking bird.

            2. R Mac does a lot of ankle biting, too.

              1. I MUTED YOU AND I HAVE TO SAY SO LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU POST! SEE HOW OBSESSED YOU ARE WITH ME?

              2. You should make up some sort of clever acronym for everyone you’ve muted. That would be hilarious.

              3. JesseAz, ‘R Mac, and Bitch’s Bitching Mother’s Lament were the first ones I muted. The comments are almost civilized with their constant personal attacks being rendered into grey nothingness.

                1. I MUTED YOU AND I HAVE TO SAY SO LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU POST! SEE HOW OBSESSED YOU ARE WITH ME?

                2. Oh, and Tulpa’s sock of the day gets the mute as well. Though that’s like playing whack-a-mole.

                  1. Notice how even though Tulpa uses the same set of sockpuppets and has a completely different posting style that sarcasmic still can’t differentiate the two of us and instead projects his own sockpuppetry onto everyone else? That’s the kind of high-brow stupidity that enables him to enjoy garbage teen political drama unlike you uncultured cretins!

                    1. Tulpa hasn’t been on much at all. Was good to see him break pattern and just destroy some of Jeff’s arguments woth logic. You can tell he is fed up with the sophistry too.

                  2. Guess JesseAz biting my ankle is better than him humping my leg.

                    1. Wow, you’re absolutely obsessed with Jesse, huh.

                    2. As long as I don’t dress up as his estranged daughter I should be safe.

                3. Everybody. I’m totally an adult and not an emotional child. Look at my advertised mite list since I can’t respond to people destroying my arguments. – sqrsly

                4. Muted ankle-biter bites ankle.

                  1. “Muted” doesn’t really have the rhetorical cachet that you imagine that it does. All it means is that you don’t know how to handle Jesse’s arguments. You’re not clever enough.

                    1. I dont bother arguing with jeff, white Mike, or sarcasmic at this point. They will lie straight through even in the presence of primary sources refuting their arguments.

                      Sarcamic has never presented an argument worth arguing about.

            3. White Mike is still mad about fire extinguishers.

            4. When I occasionally look at the comments on my phone, not logged in, I’m always flattered and amazed at the level of hatred directed at me. Then again the vast majority of what is said about me is false. Just trolls trying to goad me into a response with lies.

              They can troll all they want. The fact that all of their comments are about me personally, not what I said, tells it all.

              What’s really funny is that when they think they’ve got a zinger, the only people they impress are their fellow trolls..

              Everyone else scratches their heads and asks themselves “What is wrong with these people?”

              1. When I occasionally look at the comments on my phone, not logged in, I’m always flattered and amazed at the level of hatred directed at me.

                Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor sarcasmic the eternal victim. You should watch Mean Girls for a 400th time and cry.

              2. What’s really funny is the loooong swathes of grey after many of my posts. Sometimes half of the comments are muted. And when I occasionally look at the comments while not logged in, every single one of those muted comments is a personal attack. Every one. It’s as if they haven’t matured past thirteen.

                1. It’s as if they haven’t matured past thirteen.

                  Not all of us are mature enough to post “blow me” and weep uncontrollably in an alcoholic stupor while watching a 20 year old movie about high school girls bullying each other like you bro.

                2. Lol. Youre actually bragging about running away from conversations. Youre proud of it.

                  And you call others emotional.

                  1. He’s spazzing about being called out, while pretending he isn’t paying attention, and doesn’t see the obvious conflict in his claims.
                    Even elementary school kids aren’t that dumb.

                3. Like right here. It’s grey under this comment for as far as the eye can see. A bunch of insults and lies that I don’t have to look at. So nice. And funny.

                4. Know what you mean. It does show clearly who has been trolling all this time, and who is capable of mature conversation.

                  1. Is the troll the guy who called everyone fascists for not believing Sicknick was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher?
                    Maybe the troll is the guy who berated Unicorn Abattoir for getting the formula for water right?
                    Perhaps the troll is the guy who viciously attacks anyone who says anything derogatory about the DNC, while swearing he’s non-partisan?

                    Gee White Mike, just what was that trolls name?

                  2. You mean calling people names, expecting them to defend things they never said nor did, and telling them to kill themselves isn’t mature conversation? Well, damn. That eliminates about half of the people who post here. Maybe more.

              3. How much do you get from being a victim?

          4. It’s been unbelievably fun watching you descend so far into your Marxist thought bubble that you now defend Buttplug, the child pornography aficionado whom you used to mock for his well known welching on a bet here at Reason.com

            Of course, kiddie fuckers gotta stick together I guess. You disgusting pieces of predatory shit learned something from the faggots. Who’d have thought the thing that would you bring you together with one of the longest-lasting shitposter Marxist trolls on this site would be your mutual delight in raping children. Take a good long look at your life you self-confessed pathetic, drunken, welfare-leeching piece of shit. Seriously.

          5. Lol. God damn drunk responds to a strawman argument as if it wasn’t one.

            1. To be fair, that’s just because he’s incredibly stupid and doesn’t know “strawman” means.

        2. But you are a pedophile, Buttplug. You posted kiddie pron links here and got banned.
          And CRT is Klu Klux Klan shit, so what the hell are you trying to defend?

          Also, I see sarcasmic is announcing his mute list again like it means something. I guess it’s better than another fifty posts bitching about his divorce though.

          1. Liar.

            I see you’re a QAnon dingbat too.

            And how am I defending CRT?

            Why is CRT even a thing? It shouldn’t be.

            That is my direct quote above yours.

            CRT signaling on both sides is bullshit.

            1. See it’s not a lie though, because you verifiably posted child pornography on Reason.com and got banned. You’re a sick fucking piece of shit who watches pornographic videos of children being forcibly fucked by adults because you’re a pathetic, impotent sack of shit who gets off on torturing children.

              1. Fuck you, you lying Trump trash.

                1. Fuck you, you disgusting lying pedophile. YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.

                  That’s what happened and it’s a verifiable fact you piece of shit. You also welched on a bet and bragged about skipping out on your mortgage. Which is small potatoes next to being an out-and-proud kiddie fucker. Remember, you lying piece of shit:

                  YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
                  YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
                  YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
                  YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
                  YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.

                  1. Liar.

                    1. Yes, you certainly are. And a pedophile as well. Never forget you sick lying piece of shit:

                      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
                      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
                      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
                      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
                      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.

                    2. Dude, it’s Tulpa. Mute it.

                    3. Wow. Sarcasmic is so broken he is defending the child porn person who was banned.

                    4. Look a sarcasmic rush to the pedophiles defense.
                      I guess he’s been in a similar situation in divorce court when his wife got sole custody.

                      Fucking perverts.

            2. You said crt was about not teaching history. That is the defense of leftists ignoring what it actually is. Shit exposed through dozens of links and by dozens of academics.

        3. He didn’t call all Democrats pedos. He called you a pedo. Because you posted child pornography here on Reason.com and banned. Because you’re a sick fucking piece of shit pedophile.

    2. Actually, SYSTEMIC RACISM continues even today. Want proof? Well, Black high school students do worse, on average, on the SAT than other races. Racism is literally the only plausible explanation for that fact.

      That’s why advocating “colorblind” college admissions is racist. CRT recognizes that only through a robust affirmative action policy can we begin to dismantle WHITE SUPREMACY.

      #LibertariansForCRT
      #LibertariansForAffirmativeAction

      1. More proof of INSTITUTIONAL RACISM is (unintentionally) provided by the alt-right when they seize on statistics about the overrepresentation of Black people among violent criminals. Literally every time a Black American breaks the law, it’s ultimately the fault of white racists who effectively force the less privileged into a life of crime. (Also the fault of red state gun laws if the crime involved any kind of firearm.)

      2. SYSTEMIC RACISM continues even today.

        See, this is the real debate. There might be some holdover systemic racism but it is very mild.

        The GOP attempts to limit voter participation in cities might qualify.

        1. No, the real debate is CRT teaching white kids to hate themselves for being white, black kids to hate white kids for being white, and everyone to hate America for being founded by white people.

          1. I am thinking there is a happy middle between “whitey is evil” and “slavery wasn’t so bad after all”. But we are unlikely to find it with a government-run curriculum.

            1. And yet you advocate for total central national government control over all school curriculum and insist that CRT be taught in every school in America without question because a 25 year old NEET who spent 7 years getting a bachelor’s degree in elementary education is a HIGHLY TRAINED PROFESSIONAL who cannot be questioned, ever, by his paymaster.

              It’s almost like you’re a morbidly obese stupid fat sack of shit liar or something.

              1. He did admit he’s fat.

                1. And a collectivist. And racist.

                2. Still one of his best posts ever.

                  Wear masks or the government will force you to. In fat and can’t lower my own health risks, so you have to for me. – Jeff

            2. None of the laws ban teaching history. Again you lie. For what reason? Only reason is to defend democrats or cultural marxism.

        2. “The GOP attempts to limit voter participation in cities might qualify”
          Clearer Buttplug: “Thwarting our fraud attempts by requesting photo ID like every single other Western democracy on the planet, is racist or something… because black people are too stupid to obtain an ID.”

          1. You want elections run like other Western democracies?
            Okay then, how about:
            Election day is a holiday
            Citizens are automatically registered to vote once they turn voting age
            The government mails an identity card to each voter prior to each election, instead of making the voter jump through hoops to get the ID
            The rules for elections are far more standardized across the entire nation than they are in this country

            Do you really want to do things like other Western democracies? If so then I’m on board with having a discussion about it. But I doubt you would blanche at what a lot of Western democracies do if applied to this country, particularly the ‘standardizing election processes’ bit.

            1. er, I doubt you would accept what a lot of other Western democracies do

              1. I’m Canadian living in Canada you stupid fuck, and none of these things that you listed happen here… or the UK, or Australia, or Germany, or New Zealand or the Netherlands, etc.

                Did you think that you could make up some horseshit and everyone would believe you?

                If I were your boss at the fifty-cent factory I’d totally fire your useless lying ass.

                1. How voting works in Belgium:

                  https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/belgium/moving/voting

                  Anyone eligible to vote receives their voting card (convocation/oproepingswijze) from their municipality by post approximately two weeks before the elections. It gives the voter instructions on when and where to vote, confirms their identity and gives instructions on how to proceed once at the polling station.

                  So the government mails voting credentials to every registered voter before the election, instead of making the citizens jump through hoops to get those credentials before going to vote. Like I said.

                  1. “Thwarting our fraud attempts by requesting photo ID like every single other Western democracy on the planet”

                    chemjeff – “Hurr durr, you wouldn’t like how voting works in Belgium”

                    Lol, you’re such a retard.

                    1. With regards to electoral processes, are you interested in emulating the examples of other Western democracies in areas other than voter ID? Yes or no?

                2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_day

                  Read this list. In most places, Election Day is on a Sunday, which is not a typical workday. And in some places, like India, it is a national holiday.

                  1. “requesting photo ID like every single other Western democracy on the planet”

                    chemjeff – “In most places, Election Day is on a Sunday”

                    1. Not in “every single other Western democracy on the planet”. Not even in half.
                    2. So fucking what? What does that have to do with other countries ID requirements? What does that have to do with your team’s assertion that blacks are too stupid to get photo ID?

                    Talk about trying to move goalposts.

                    1. What does that have to do with other countries ID requirements?

                      It has NOTHING to do with ID requirements! I never said it did! It is an idea for potentially improving our own electoral processes. If you want to emulate the examples of other Western democracies, why stop with IDs? There are lots of ideas out there.

                3. I’m Canadian living in Canada you stupid fuck, and none of these things that you listed happen here… or the UK, or Australia, or Germany, or New Zealand or the Netherlands, etc.

                  Oh, did you say that this doesn’t happen in the Netherlands? Well, it does:

                  Registering to Vote
                  Anyone wishing to stay in the Netherlands for more than three months needs a residence permit (Verblijfsvergunning). These can be obtained from the Town Hall (stadhuis) or community office (gemeente). As part of the process of registration with their municipal authority, individuals are asked to declare their wish to register as a voter in the Netherlands.

                  All registered voters are sent a polling card by post approximately two weeks prior to the election. This must then be presented at their designated polling station on the day of election.

                  So you are not just lying, you are also just plain stupid about how voting in other countries works.

                  1. Lol, you beclown yourself continuously. Read this you lying retard:

                    “registering as a voter means proving identity as an EU citizen by means of the following documents:
                    A passport
                    A BSN number
                    Two photographs
                    A copy of the birth certificate
                    Proof of address

                    https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/netherlands/moving/voting

                    You’re so shit at fifty-centing. Your boss at the fifty-cent factory should can your useless ass.

                    1. Okay? I’m not opposed to voter ID, I never have been. The point of that quote was to point out that in places like the Netherlands and Belgium, and elsewhere, the voter credentials are mailed to to each eligible voter by the government. It lowers the barriers to voting while still having reasonably secure elections. It is something we could try in this country. But I doubt you’d be interested.

                  2. Seriously, I can’t believe you thought you could get away with lying about ID not being part voting requirements in the Netherlands like that.

                    Has anyone ever seen a more dishonest fuck than chemleft? (Not counting White Mike)

                4. You are nothing more than a reactionary populist. You want photo ID because Team Blue opposes it, nothing more.

                  1. Nobody would oppose providing ID unless they were planning to fraud. There is no other possible reason.

                    1. I am not the supposed “fifty center” around here. You are.

                      You stick to the Team Red script and when presented with even a slightest bit of pushback or even discussion, you respond with insults and abuse. Because that is all you know how to do.

                      Fundamentally it’s because you are insecure of your own position. You are weak minded and easily led by demagogues, meaning, that the ideas that you have aren’t ones that you reasoned into, they are ones that you formed emotional connections with.

                      You CAN’T have a reasonable discussion on something like voter ID because not only do you not understand the authentic position of those who are opposed to you, you don’t even understand your own position! Not deeply and not fundamentally. You are certain your position is right, but you don’t know why, and the only way you know how to defend your position is with verbal abuse because you can’t respond any other way.

                  2. Ignore the loser. Put him on mute. You won’t ever get an honest conversation, so what’s the point?

                    1. You talk about muting A LOT…

                    2. I do!

                      I absolutely love the feature!

                      It silences the trolls that add nothing but insults to the conversation.

                      I haven’t muted you because, while you dish it like a teenage girl, you also have interesting things to say once in a while.

                      Can’t say the same about the three stooges.

            2. Of course, none of those things actually take place in most western democracies, but you’re a morbidly obese stupid fat sack of shit liar, so it’s not surprising that you invent fake facts to support your idiocy.

              While we’re at it though, since you are so enamored of Scandinavian politics, let’s institute their tariffs, immigration restrictions, assimilation propaganda, lower cap gains taxes, and 2nd and 3rd trimester abortion restrictions that make the practice effectively impossible. Do you really want to do things like other Western democracies? If so then I’m on board with having a discussion about it. But I doubt you would blanch (Blanche is a woman’s name, by the way, you illiterate stupid fat piece of shit. The word you wanted was “blanch”) at what a lot of Western democracies do if applied to this country.

            3. Lol. Other countries that require government issued ID to vote??

              Amazing your sophistry.

              No conservatives are against a federal holiday for voting. None.

              Why do you constantly lie about your enemies?

              1. Why do you constantly lie about your enemies?

                He has to because he cops arguments on about a 3rd or 4th grade level from DailyKos and Democratic Underground and reposts them here in exchange for about 50 cents per post from Media Matters.

                1. It is like he doesn’t even realize the Ga that just passed has more voting days than most of the liberal north east states.

                  It takes a dedicated leftist to ignore that.

            4. Here’s the voting rules in the greater Toronto area in Canada, the country you reside in cytotoxic.

              Sounds pretty onerous and racist. It’s no wonder those poor, stupid, benighted niggers need a white savior like you to be their ally.

    3. CRT teaches all non-black kids to be ashamed of themselves for the sins of their fathers, to be ashamed to be American, and to equate the founding principle of liberty with slavery. Anyone remotely patriotic should oppose it tooth and nail.

      1. I don’t think you even have to be patriotic, just:

        a) not a total racist
        b) not a collectivist

        1. That rules jeff out due to (a) and (b).

          1. The only way to come up with that conclusion is to pay more attention to the trolls than what jeff actually says.

            1. He’s not gonna fuck you bro. He’s still too scared of COVID to leave his mom’s basement. Little old for you anyway. He acts like a 9 year old, but he’s actually an obese 30something.

            2. First you defend the pedophile. Then you defend jeff. Lol.

              Even in this thread you responded that you understood what CRT is. Going against what Jeff has pushed for 2 weeks now. Yet you retreat back to defending him.

              How lonely are you?

            3. Chumby has just resorted to trying to bait me now. It’s kinda sad.

              1. He must want to join the Master Baiter Club. I’m sure they’ll let him slide on in.

                1. Aren’t you president? I’m sure you’re pulling for him sarc.

                2. Do they meet in a $500,000 house? 😉

                  1. I doubt they get together and do cool shit like I do with the like-minded libertarian friends I’ve made on this forum.

                    All they do is poop in their hands and throw shit like monkeys.

              2. Must be due to my “white culture.”

      2. You’d have a lot more credibility on this topic if you weren’t best buds woth Jeff lately.

        1. It’s been hilarious watching this self-confessed homeless drug addict alcoholic welfare queen go from simply regurgitating shit he read on Cato to actively partnering up with shreek, who he used to mock unmercifully for welching on his bets and making pathetic arguments.

          inb4 I WUZ HAXZORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Funny that a self-claimed netsec expert and professional computer programmer can’t secure his account with basic password management. Then again it’s not that surprising since he had to go ask the Glibs how to underline text in HTML. That was before he returned from Glibertarians after promising never to return in 90+ posts in the same thread.

          1. Oh God. Is he going to cry for a week he was hacked again?

          2. Get help. You are disturbed.

            1. It’s Tulpa.

            2. He’s right.
              That’s probably why you’re so angry.

    4. Hey look, the racist cockroaches are scurrying into the corners.

      1. “racist cockroaches”

        Chemjeff prefers “racially aware Blattella”.

  5. Speaking of streaming (and undermining both cable and broadcast television), Sinclair is apparently making a play for NBC’s regional sports networks. If that deal goes through, it may be the second to last nail in the coffin of broadcast television and cable.

    As I’ve mentioned before, after Sinclair rebranded their regional sports networks as Bally Sports, they announced that they’ll be selling access direct to consumers in local markets for dozens of baseball, basketball, and NHL hockey teams before the 2022 baseball season starts. You won’t need to subscribe to cable to see your favorite team’s home or away games anymore. If Sinclair buys the NBC regional sports networks, as well, that means they’ll be adding the same direct to consumer sales capability to baseball, basketball, and hockey teams in Boston, New York City, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Chicago, and San Francisco.

    There are very few things you can’t stream easily (without a good VPN) unless you subscribe to cable, and local baseball, basketball, and NHL games are three of them. Once people no longer need to subscribe to cable to watch their favorite team, it’s gonna be a jailbreak from cable (and broadcast television) to streaming, even more than it is already.

    The last nail in the coffin of cable and broadcast TV is when the NFL finally decides to start selling local games directly to consumers instead of selling the rights to the major networks. As Gen Y and Gen Z continue to ditch cable (and broadcast TV on cable), they’ll continue to move to places the NFL finds harder and harder to reach by selling the rights to the networks. And if Bally Sports makes that trend away from cable accelerate, we should see the NFL selling games directly to consumers sooner rather than later.

    1. As Gen Y and Gen Z continue to ditch cable (and broadcast TV on cable), they’ll continue to move to places the NFL finds harder and harder to reach by selling the rights to the networks.

      The problem with that theory is Gen Y and Gen Z don’t watch cis-sports, they watch gender-neutral e-sports on twitch.

      1. That’s a problem for the NFL. Their new fans need to come from somewhere, and I think they’ve alienated a lot of fans.

        Anyone else see the video of Islanders’ fans singing the national anthem when they were finally free to attend hockey games again–without interference from the awful progressives who run their state?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9XszOyy01Y

        Those Islanders’ fans are not deplorables, Proud Boys, insurrectionists, or even necessarily Trump supporters. They’re just average Americans in the northeast, who are still quite patriotic, despite what the news media says, and they’re not impressed by unpatriotic displays of contempt for the police or the military either. They’re presumably Jets and Giants fans, too–and I don’t think they’re impressed by people disrespecting the anthem.

        We’ll see what happens when the NFL season resumes, season ticket sales are clear, NFL Sunday Ticket packages are sold, and the ratings on Sunday night and Monday night games are in the books, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the NFL may have gained less than nothing for being woke–at the expense of alienating some of their most enthusiastic paying customers.

        And, yeah, I think the results were masked last year by the pandemic (NPI). The ratings crash was because there were no fans in the stadium!!! We’ll see. People generally become fans of the teams their parents are watching, and if parents aren’t tuning in to watch millionaire athletes disgrace the anthem for whatever political benefit they think they’ll from pissing off the fans, the NFL’s future fan base is likely to suffer.

        1. You’d think the NFL ratings would have skyrocketed with hordes of people being forced to stay at home. Yeah, most of the games are on the weekend but those other obligations working folks take care of on the weekend were able to be handled at other times. I think the virtue signaling turned folks off. We shall see what 2021 brings.

  6. “the sort of programming move that a chimpanzee might make—if he’d had a couple of martinis for lunch and was also blindfolded.”

    Good one.

  7. Wonder what the long game for network and cable stations are and if there is a “win” scenario.
    The regional sports networks that offer the local teams’ games could also go online (if they haven’t recently) and still maintain a monopoly on those games. A decade ago, HBO was cable/sat only. Then cable/online but you had to have a cable account to stream. Then they offered online without needing a cable account.

    1. Don’t worry, once the Boomers who are the last source of cable revenue die off all of the conventional cable stations will end up consolidated by one of 4 or 5 streaming services and then Reason can tell us all about how centralized market power and oligopolistic economies are actually the only remaining vestige of a laissez-faire libertarian society.

      1. One can choose not to subscribe to any of them. I’m guessing Reason writers are urban/suburban so tv/mobile device entertainment is part of their metro lifestyle. So they may ignore the “don’t participate” option.

    2. The pro leagues sign massive deals with the networks.
      They’d much rather do that than worry about little team-by-team deals and subscription numbers.

      1. But are they signing with regional sports networks for the bulk of the games. If NBC airs a few random games a week the hardcore (insert team) doesn’t care. They want to see dozens plus games of their specific team each year. So who has these games? NBCSports? MASN/NESN/etc?

        1. You know there’s like 4 or 5 parent networks total, right?
          Disney (ABC, ESPN)
          Fox
          Universal (NBC)
          CBS
          Maybe Bally’s?
          Warner (TNT)?
          Each of those has regional affiliates and subsidiaries. The parent networks bid for broadcasting rights and distribute them downstream. Your local CBS46 or NBC11 network isn’t bidding on the games, they’re just broadcasting whatever is handed to them.
          It’s easiest to see with the NFL, which is primarily my reference point, but I’d bet the same holds true with NBA, MLB, NHL, PGA, NASCAR, etc. You may get some carve outs, like the Yankees or SEC or B1G networks, but those are simply worked into the overall agreement.
          If/when the networks start having trouble affording the leagues’ asking prices, then you might see more subscription options (and you see the smallest example of that with Amazon and Yahoo dipping into the NFL) but sports will be the last thing the networks give up. If anything, I expect access will be restricted somewhat before being eventually expanded.

          1. Point being that the money is in large, comprehensive broadcasting contracts (not to mention simplicity) rather than going team by team. Options to subscribe to specific teams are/will/may be offered, but within the framework of comprehensive deals. But I could see networks subleasing at some point.

          2. Other than say the Super Bowl or World Series, do people really tune into sports on network broadcasts? Iirc ESPN basically committed suicide when they made their NFL deal. Part of why they laid so many staff off. The numbers declined instead of increasing.
            I looked up NESN (New England Spirts Network). They are team owned. On cable, sat and stream. They carry the games that aren’t in network packages. And that is what say a diehard Red Sox fan wants. They don’t wan San Fran vs LA on Tuesday and KC vs NY the next night. They want to see their team.
            I think the NFL is different than the other major sports due to how few games each team plays. You can watch your team as well as other games that weekend. And have spent less time doing so for the season vs say MLB.

    3. “The regional sports networks that offer the local teams’ games could also go online (if they haven’t recently) and still maintain a monopoly on those games.”

      This is what they’ve done, and this is what they’ll be offering before the baseball season in 2022.

      The app is already out–it’s called “Bally Sports”. You can already watch your local games with it–if you have a cable subscription.

      The change is that come the baseball season of 2022, you won’t need a cable subscription anymore. You can just subscribe to watching the games straight through the app, your phone, on your TV, or online.

      This will the beginning of the end for cable. You simply won’t need cable to watch your favorite team anymore, and that is one of the main reasons why most guys are still subscribing to cable.

  8. Regarding the Trump crimes (that are depicted as just “benefit fraud” by the wingnuts noise machine:

    This is no mere fringe benefits case. It is a straight-out fraud case, claiming that the defendants kept double books: phony ones to show the tax authorities, and accurate ones to be hidden from view. The question of whether a given company apartment or car might in theory (with appropriate supporting facts) have been an excludable fringe benefit turns out to be almost completely irrelevant. A better analogy to what is being charged here is the following: Suppose that your employer pays you monthly, through automatically deposited paychecks that end up being included on your annual W-2. But suppose that each month you could stop by the front office, request an envelope full of cash in unmarked bills, and have your W-2 reduced accordingly. So your true income would be the same as if you hadn’t stopped by, but you’d be reporting less salary. If your employer kept careful records of all the cash it gave you, and also still deducted it all, we would basically have this case. That is far different from simple failure to pay taxes on fringe benefits, which is how the indictment has been widely misunderstood, thanks in part to Trump’s defense lawyers’ laying the groundwork before the charges were made public on Thursday.

    and

    It is not just a state and local income tax fraud case. It is also – via New York State fraud, conspiracy, and grand larceny statutes – a federal income tax fraud case. The indictment’s first three and longest counts detail a “scheme to defraud” the federal Internal Revenue Service, including through a “conspiracy” with multiple “overt acts,” and the commission of “grand larceny.” In other words, just as the Manhattan DA could indict someone for committing such crimes (within its jurisdiction) against the likes of you or me, so here it has identified the IRS as the main victim of the defendants’ actions. Indeed, the word “federal” appears thirty times in the Manhattan DA’s 24-page charging document.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/77331/the-weisselberg-indictment-is-not-a-fringe-benefits-case/

    Lock that motherfucker up!

    1. Hey remember when Joe Biden was on tape bragging about how he strongarmed the UK by threatening to withhold a billion dollars in grants and loan guarantees in order to get an investigation into his son dropped and you flailed wildly for months denying that the video existed and that even if it did it was perfectly alright for Biden to enrich himself and his family through his political office? That was funny.

      Oh also YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.

      1. *Ukraine, of course

    2. Just security is a liberal think tank put of NYU. Of course they are going to say it is worse than it is.

      I’ll listen to the tax lawyers who were astounded by this case.

      I’ll listen to the federal lawyers who declined this case.

      Youre desperate.

      Tell is all how clean Joe and hunter are again.

  9. Hey guys, remember before sarcasmic completely lost his mind because orangemanbad and posted things like this?

    When people on the left throw around words like “fascist” I am reminded of a quote from Inigo Montoya.

    It’s funny since he literally throws around the word “fascist” on a daily basis now. Literally every day of his life.

    1. TDS is a bitch. Poor sarc.

    1. I remember him claiming after the elections that he equally attacked any and all actors of power then refused to have a single negative comment about democrats in 4 different threads criticizing biden last week. He did criticize the right though. And joined Jeff and White Mike as well. And apparently a pedophile.

    1. Where did you get radicalized?

      1. The 80s. That was a totally radical time.

        Where did you fuck your first child?

        1. To clarify, I mean in what geographical location did you fuck your first child, not in which orifice. Despite your desperate and repeated attempts to make us privy to your preferences in child pornography, you can go ahead and keep the specifics to yourself.

        2. “Where did you fuck your first child?”

          Literally rolling on the floor laughing. I mean the poor kid, but still…

    2. Damn. He’s even more broken than I realized.

      Those quotes can’t be from the same person?! Maybe sarc really went to glibs years ago and this has been a fake since?

  10. Frontline: GERMANY’S NEO-NAZIS & THE FAR RIGHT

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/germanys-neo-nazis-the-far-right/

    Watch and Learn, Peanuts. A little introspection might save your lives.

    1. Dinesh D’Souza: 2016 OBAMA’S AMERICA

      https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/2016_Obama_s_America?id=2SLa-poeHY4&hl=en_US&gl=US

      Watch and Learn, shreek, A little introspection might save your life.

      (this is how seriously that idiotic shit you just posted deserves to be treated)

      Oh also YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.
      YOU. POSTED. CHILD. PORNOGRAPHY. ON. THIS. WEBSITE. AND. GOT. BANNED. FOR. IT.

    2. Lol. So you believe crt is about history, believe trump is going to jail over fringe benefits, believe trump colluded woth Russia, believe nazis were far right..

      What leftist narratives do you actually question?

  11. Hey guys, remember before sarcasmic completely lost his mind because orangemanbad and posted things like this?

    Bigotry by non-whites isn’t actually bigotry or racism because white people have all the power. Only white people have the power to act on their bigotry, so they are racists. If you don’t have power over the ethnicity(s) you hate, then you can’t be racist. Seriously, that’s how they define it now.

    This is the same guy who insists that not teaching critical race theory in publicly funded elementary schools is white supremacist totalitarianism. Wew lad.

    1. Wow. What a racist comment from sarcasmic. He is full bore woke. That nurse who won’t fuck him changed him.

  12. ABC itself hired a TV critic (yes, I, too, shook my head) as its programming boss, who wound up making the chimpanzee look pretty smart. Her career lasted about as long as the run of Wednesday 9:30 (8:30 Central), which was tossed overboard with half its episodes unaired.

    Would these be the same trusted, authoritative sources, educated at our nations finest institutions who gave Lily Singh 100% on Rotten Tomatoes?

  13. Homecoming pits its characters against senselessly mean college kids while spouting platitudes (“I’m helping the sport I love!”), acronyms (did everybody but me know that GAF signifies “grown-ass fun”?) and a lot of identity-politics sloganeering.

    I believe we call this “television” now.

    1. iF yoU cAN’t sIT bAcK anD EnjOY a LiTtlE mArXIsT peDagoGY yoU mUSt bE pReTtY sAd!!!!!!!!!!!

      I’m sarcasmic and I’m immensely proud of my ability to suspend disbelief due to my total ignorance on nearly every possible topic!

    2. I thought GAF made film for SLR cameras.
      “What are either of those two things?”

  14. Today’s random thought: I like how the Democrats, after going all-in on an ideology that’s so completely toxic and racist to normal people, they’re now desperately trying to redefine “Critical Race Theory” as the simple acknowledgment that there might be someone in a trailer in Montana who might use the n-word after he gets drunk on Schlitz.

    1. sarcasmic and cytotoxic will be by any moment to tell you why Democrats are champions of academic freedom and anyone who disagrees that teaching 6 year olds to hate each other based on their skin color is a fascist Nazi white supremacist racist.

      1. WTF is wrong with you? Are you off your meds? You have completely shit over this entire thread. Seriously dude, log off and meditate or something.

        1. Slit your wrists.

        2. Fuck off, chemleft. You and sarcasmic started this with your trolling and shitposting.
          Now man up and take your asskicking.

        3. And yet you’re more disliked, by more commentators. Should tell you something but it won’t.

    2. They are also gaslighting the fact that they have been against voter ID and calling it jim crow for months. Now they are saying they were always for voter ID. Also gaslighting the gop is actually defunding the police.

      Democrats know their voters are completely ignorant to reality.

    3. they’re now desperately trying to redefine “Critical Race Theory”

      Oh come on, this is not fair. Lots of people have been using the term sloppily and to include things that were never a part of CRT. The people who claim that CRT is being taught in elementary schools, do you think they are using the precise academic definition of CRT?

    4. Off the top of my head, the only thing that Team Blue has really gone “all-in” on when it comes to CRT, or CRT-adjacent ideas, or what-have-you, is that there is a significant element of structural racism that has a substantial role in explaining the disparate group outcomes that are observed between races. And IMO that is an eminently debatable proposition.

      1. there is a significant element of structural racism that has a substantial role in explaining the disparate group outcomes that are observed between races

        I dunno, man. I see black folks come here from other countries and not have the same problems that blacks in the States claim to encounter. And look at all the black millionaires promoting CRT. Were they victims of systemic racism? I don’t think so.

        What I see is a terrible culture among blacks in America that results in them keeping themselves down. Welfare perpetuates it, affirmative action perpetuates it, and CRT victimhood only reinforces it.

        1. I completely agree that there are a lot of people who like to claim victimhood status.

          What I see is a terrible culture among blacks in America that results in them keeping themselves down.

          If there is such a thing as a ‘black culture’, then is there also a ‘white culture’?

          If so, and if we are going to be honest about cultural explanations for disparate racial outcomes, shouldn’t we be exploring both the components of ‘black culture’ and the components of ‘white culture’ that may contribute to it?

          1. If there is such a thing as a ‘black culture’, then is there also a ‘white culture’?

            Interesting question. I’d say not really. There’s the dominant culture that’s considered to be “normal,” but I don’t see people being excluded from it based upon their race. A “white culture” or “subculture” might be hicks in West Virginia or something where murder victims go unidentified because there’s no dental records and everyone’s got the same DNA. But that’s not most white folks.

          2. “I completely agree that there are a lot of people who like to claim victimhood status.”

            Poor sarc.

          3. “If there is such a thing as a ‘black culture’, then is there also a ‘white culture’?”

            Yes. The Smithsonian printed a poster on it. Then embarrassedly memory-holed it when people of all races looked at it and said, “looks pretty good to me, what parts of this are supposed to be bad, again?”

            https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/the-smithsonian-has-lost-its-mind.php

            1. That is astounding.

              The parts about the scientific method, delayed gratification, and self-reliance supposedly being associated with “white culture” seems particularly racist–and not just racist but white supremacist. That this came from the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture is both surprising and unsurprising.

              Hitler might have equated the scientific method, delayed gratification, and self-reliance with whiteness–in his racist criticism of other races. How embarrassing for the people who put that together!

              Some left wing intellectual stayed up late at night putting that awful display together.

            2. If I were in charge of the schools, children would learn about white culture from Martin Mull and Fred Willard:

              https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089277/

          4. Individuals are responsible for their own outcomes.

            1. So there’s no such thing as culture? You should write a dissertation on that. Might win a Nobel.

  15. https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1412182780969168896?s=19

    SHAMEFUL: Several members of the U.S. Women’s National Soccer Team turned their backs as 98-year-old World War II veteran Pete DuPré played the National Anthem on his harmonica. [Video]

    How sad and pathetic is it that #Mexico’s national team showed DuPré (and the USA) more respect than some members of @USWNT.

    1. Link still active?

  16. So glad I have a place I can go to to get the libertarian take on CW’s latest boilerplate angst-fest.
    Tomorrow: which Kardashian is the biggest statist?

  17. >>poor pretty kids mixing it up with rich pretty kids

    Cherry. Valance.

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