On Memorial Day, Remember Skepticism Toward a Large, Standing Military
Thank the troops, but question the uses to which they’re put.

In recent years, it's become common to thank both retired and active-duty military personnel for their service – an expression met with various measures of appreciation or discomfort by recipients. The new custom is a step beyond the long-established sentiments embodied by Memorial Day, which acknowledges those who fell in combat in the ranks of a rare American institution that retains wide public confidence. While the thank-yous are well-intentioned, they represent a shift in attitude for a country that once distrusted anything resembling a powerful military. They also gloss over the costs—acknowledged on Memorial Day—of war and vast armed establishments. Those costs are worth emphasizing as the U.S. finally prepares to extract itself from a two-decade conflict in Afghanistan.
"A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty," James Madison, later to become fourth president of the United States, argued at the Constitutional Convention in 1787. "Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people."
The founders' antipathy to a large, permanent military establishment prevailed for over a century. "Americans had a distrust of a large standing army, going back to the founding of the republic," the Department of Defense notes as among the barriers to be overcome before the U.S. could effectively enter World War I.
But that barrier has long since eroded. As of 2020, the U.S. accounts for 39 percent of all money spent on the entire planet for military matters, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. Attitudes have changed, too, as you might expect from the proliferation of "thank you for your service" as a greeting.
"Western Europeans and Americans tend to trust their militaries much more than other national institutions," Pew Research reported in 2018 at a time when approval of the military stood at or above 80 percent in France, Italy, the United States, and the United Kingdom.
Last year, Gallup found U.S. public confidence in the military was exceeded only by confidence in small business.
Since then, the public has cooled a bit on the military, with a February 2021 poll by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute finding a drop in trust from 70 percent in 2018 to 56 percent now. But that still far exceeds faith in any other institution, including all branches of government.
Americans, like Europeans, enjoy warm and fuzzy feelings toward the troops even as events seem designed to demonstrate the wisdom of James Madison's warnings about the danger posed by standing armies. In recent months, military officers in France and Spain penned open letters to their governments warning of dire consequences if officials continue to pursue policies opposed by those in uniform.
"Paris is once again full of rumblings about the political ambitions of the French military — 60 years after France's iconic leader Charles de Gaulle saw off a coup bid by disaffected generals, who were furious at his decision to withdraw from Algeria," Voice of America noted earlier this month.
Despite complaints by politicians about extremism in the ranks in the wake of the January 6 riot, there's little evidence that American military personnel harbor similar political ambitions. Instead, the risks posed by the U.S. military are to the lives of its personnel and to the people of the countries where it is sent to intervene in pursuit of often ill-considered policy goals.
That includes a grim tally for Afghanistan, from which the United States is finally withdrawing after a 20-year war. As of November 2019, Brown University's Costs of War project estimated direct war deaths at 2,298 for the U.S. military, 1,145 for allied troops, 3,814 for private contractors, 64,124 for local military and police, 43,074 for civilians, and 42,100 for opposition fighters. With other deaths included, the estimate for lives lost in the war comes in at 157,000.
It's expensive to kill that many people. The total cost to American taxpayers of the 20-year war is estimated at $2.261 trillion. "Note that this total does not include funds that the United States government is obligated to spend on lifetime care for American veterans of this war, nor does it include future interest payments on money borrowed to fund the war," adds the Costs of War project.
This enormous cost in lives and wealth appears to have been largely pointless.
"A confidential trove of government documents obtained by The Washington Post reveals that senior U.S. officials failed to tell the truth about the war in Afghanistan throughout the 18-year campaign, making rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable," the newspaper reported in December 2019.
That's just one war made possible by America's vast war machine. It doesn't count the cost of intervention in Iraq or elsewhere. It certainly doesn't include the potential perils of conflicts to come, including growing speculation over war with China and Russia, most likely sparked by defense alliances with countries such as Taiwan and Ukraine.
"What would happen if arguably the two most powerful countries in the world squared off in a war against one another?" The National Interest recently asked about a possible war between the U.S. and China. "Mass destruction."
That's not an argument for pacifism—but it is evidence for the value of restraint. The price of conflicts past, present, and future should constantly be on our minds, as should the warnings of James Madison and others about the pitfalls inherent in maintaining a large standing military.
So, if you're so inclined, thank military personnel for their service. And, certainly, take time on Memorial Day to remember those who gave their lives for their country. But be sure to ask questions about what those sacrifices are in the service of, and perhaps remember some of the skepticism toward a standing military that marked the early years of this country.
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Trump's disdain for servicemen, calling them "suckers" and "losers" didn't stop him from fattening up the already bloated military budget.
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Ignoring turd's distortions and outright lies, we had a POTUS who spent some political capital in order to withdraw the troops, only to be blocked by the military bureaucracy.
But liars like turd spread enough lies, and pathetic TDS-addled shits like M4e whined enough that we got droolin' Joe in his place.
Is that you Swallwell? Repeating debunked Atlantic stories. Lol.
Trump publicly insulted POWs and KIAs like John McCain and that Goldstar family.
It is weird thinking you have a moral high ground. Yes he attacked people who were attacking him. Gold star families don't get a free pass. They weren't the ones who served. McCain was shopping the debunked dossier. He doesn't get a pass either.
Yet you still initially chose a debunked Atlantic story... why?
Stupidity explains a lot about turd.
I really hope he’s tortured to death.
We thank service members for their courage and sacrifice. We don't elevate them to saints, nor does their service place them beyond criticism for what they do outside the military.
McCain was a liar, a manipulative psychopath, a war monger, and an opportunist. The fact that he served in the military, was wounded, and was tortured doesn't change any of that.
If he can be used as a cudgel with which to beat Trump, even mass murders and kiddy-diddling wouldn't keep turd from singing his praises.
TDS-addled shits are like that.
It took 7 ass-wipes (Richard Burr, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, Ben Sasse, and Pat Toomey) to fill the hole “The Maverick” left in the Senate.
The left went from unrelenting hatred of McCain foe thinks like his bomb bomb bomb Iran clip to deifying him for attacking trump. Even W is a great person on the left now. Well until they need the next historical outrage.
"Trump publicly insulted POWs and KIAs like John McCain"
Insulting that warmongering piece of shit, McCain, should become the national sport.
Weird how Nuttplug thinks you shouldn't insult neocons just because they did a little babykilling in Vietnam, followed by some selling out of fellow servicemen.
You hated John McCain for at least 8 years until he “stood up” to Trump you disingenuous fuck.
Or Kerry calling the troops idiots and the lowest of the low right? Or Hillary thinking they are her servants
Hey TDS one, how many wars did Trump start and end compared to Obama?
Don't forget that Trump declared war on American democracy!
This (below) poetry is inspired by the REAL facts of a REAL nightmare!
https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?
"The Sound Of Despots"
Hello darkness, my old friend, I've come to talk with you again
Because a nightmare in jackboots, left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the nightmare that was planted in my brain, still remains
Within the sound of despots
In nightmares I ran alone, narrow streets of cobblestone
Neath the halo of a streetlamp, I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of an orange blight, split the night
And touched the sound of despots
And in their naked greed I saw, millions of sheeple, maybe more
Sheeple talking without speaking, sheeple hearing without listening
Sheeple’s thoughts, sanity never shared, and no one dared
To question the despots!
Fool, said I, you do not know, despots, like a cancer, grows
Hear my words and I might teach you, take my arms then I might reach you
But my words, like silent raindrops fell, and echoed in the wells of despots
And the morons bowed and prayed to the orange god they'd made
And the sign flashed its warning in the words that it was forming
And the sign said the words of the despots are written in the Biggest Lies
And tenement halls, and shouted, in the sounds of despots
The spastic pile of shit is getting a Memorial Day's helping of flags, deserving both that and the appropriate disdain in which s/he is held!
Hey, steaming pile of shit! Stick your head up your ass and die!
The mute button hit Sqrlsy hard.
Many concepts, to include honesty, benevolence, and respect for individual freedom, have hit MammaryBahnFuhrer VERY hard! She is STILL adhering to Her Most Elaborate Expert-Christian-Theologian Theories Which Justify Holy Identity Theft!
I love it. Haven’t had to listen to his inane faggoty bullshit for weeks.
That never happened. In fact, those claims have been discredited by multiple sources who were in the room. Including people, who don’t ‘Ike him.
You really should kill yourself. After all, you rape children.
Would you like to know more?
Our founders wanted to avoid traitors like Michael Flynn:
Former Trump advisor Michael Flynn said the US should have a coup like Myanmar, where the military overthrew the democratically elected government
Former national security adviser Michael Flynn spoke at a QAnon conference in Dallas this weekend.
When asked about the coup in Myanmar, Flynn said that "it should happen here."
Myanmar's military overthrew the democratically elected government and has killed hundreds of people.
https://news.yahoo.com/former-trump-advisor-michael-flynn-004712913.html
So, now *speaking* is traitorous?
Only if you speek against the progressives
And to clarify, speaking against progressives in office is sedition; speaking against conservatives in office is Resistance!
Are you referring to the January 6th riot at the Capitol? That went well beyond speech.
Also, prominent conservatives, Vice President Pence, Senator Romney, etc. we’re among the persons that the speech and rioting was directed against.
"Are you referring to the January 6th riot at the Capitol? That went well beyond speech."
Are you referring to the Jan 6th protest at the capitol, lying sack of shit?
Wow. Congrats. You made a whole post about jan 6th without lying about 3 dead officers or the attempted lynching of the VP.
NOW..... can you admit the blm riots are also political and created much more nationwide violence? That violence has been directed the other way such as the scalise shooting.
Or do you still believe feet on Pelosi desk is the same as 9/11?
"Wow. Congrats. You made a whole post about jan 6th without lying about 3 dead officers or the attempted lynching of the VP..."
Well, he did get in some weasel-word bullshit about 'directed against'; guilt-by-insinuation at its finest!
Yeah, it went just about as much "beyond speech" as the 200 screaming harpies that interrupted the Kavanaugh hearings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ7uThFJ4vY
FBI Releases New Video Of Capitol Riots, Asks For Public’s Help | TODAY
OMG! TEN(!!!!!!!!) MEN, ARMED WITH *CRUTCHES*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OHHHH, NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Fuck off and die, you pathetic piece of shit.
Oh, it's also 2-1/2 months old, only released 1-1/2 months after the protest, and is obviously highly selective.
It will serve to convince TDS-addled shits like Mike, but few others.
Did you watch the videos of the officers inviting people in? The ones showing protesters going between cordoned off hallways?
The doj has 500 hours of footage. Most of it non violent. Isnt your metrics needing to be just 93% non violent?
Metrics for TDS-addled assholes like Mike need only offer some vague reason to blame Trump.
These are not bright people; energy-saving, low-watt bulbs, right TDS-addled asshole?
If you watched that footage and your stomach didn't turn, there's something wrong with you.
You people fundamentally don't care about the United States. Every single Bible-thumping patriotic tear you've shed was all, every time, nothing but bigotry and fear and lies.
You want these sad rednecks to take over and shit on the place, because at least you won't feel like your politicians are smarter than you. You hate that, right?
"If you watched that footage and your stomach didn’t turn, there’s something wrong with you..."
This from the raging asshole who just today justified the Holocaust and the 100,000,000 murdered by the Commies!
"You want these sad rednecks to take over and shit on the place"
No, we want uneducated, antisemitic, inner-city, bigot, pederasts like you. *rollseyes*
As Americans have gotten greedier, more entitled, and more ignorant generation after generation, I care less and less about the US. So, correct.
Actually, I would like for Congress to be banished to some smelly suburban office building with bad air conditioning and small cubicles, and Senators and representatives to receive no compensation, no staff, and no pension.
I think politicians are about the dumbest people in this country. Though you are tough competition for them.
"Are you referring to the January 6th riot at the Capitol? That went well beyond speech."
Oh, what actually happened now that your molotov cocktail, bear spray, smeared poo, ziptie, crushed cop and fire extinguisher stories all turned out to be lies.
Are you referring to the January 6th riot at the Capitol? That went well beyond speech.
No.
We're referring to the riots a few weeks before that.
And the ones a few weeks before that.
And the ones a few weeks before those.
The ones with BLM signs, pussy hats and black clad 'anti' fascists. The ones that stormed and occupied places, that burned and looted.
Those.
The riots you support.
Openly advocating for a coup against our country is.
The Q-Trumptards are insane. The rot starts with DJT.
Insanity + The Big Lie + coup = traitors.
It is amazing watching the left casually use references to the Nazis and the holocaust in their pursuit of political attacks.
What coup? Just because you repeat statist lies doesn't make it the truth. What weapons were recovered? What coup is weaponless and lasts half an hour?
Youre just an idiot who props up the left.
Stupidity explains a lot about turd.
And pedophilia.
Remember trump lowering regulation, wanting to pull troops out of foreign nations, and not nationalizing industries = nazi
Using falsified evedience to go after political opponents, beating jews in the street, and socialism is just rational common sence progressiveism
Apparently the left still chanting selected not elected about 2000, Ohio stolen election for 2004, Trump russia 2016 aren't big lies. Even though all 3 claims the elections were stolen.
It is just amazing the cognitive dissonance and ignorance requires to call 2020 the Big Lie while ignoring all of modern election history. Hell, half these idiots claim the electoral college is a racist entity that steals elections.
Yet these idiots persist.
It helps if you attended school the day they explained how evidence works.
Shitstain here, who has made a career of posting lies, hopes there might be a lefty ignoramus reading stupid enough to believe shitstain has the least acquaintance with the concept of "evidence".
Flynn as also getting paid to lobby for Turkey while advising Trump on national security issues. Flynn didn’t disclose that.
And Joe met with Ukrainians and Russians at dinners set up by his son while VP. Flew Hunter on 2 dozen flights on AF2 where the countries gave Hunter connected firms millions and millions of business.
Biden not only does not disclose that, he denies it.
Flynn is a patriot. You’re a traitor. Like many democrats. You are incapable of patriotism.
I think a big part of the problem is the way the military has become so entangled in our economy.
How many would rail against government jobs yet fail to see that is the case for the military? Yes they provide the defense of the country, but is an Army clerk any different form a clerk in any other government office.
How many cities in this country depend on the adjacent military base. Closing a military base can affect a city as much as closing a factory.
How many contractors depend on the military to meet their bottom line. How much research and development is funded by the military. The country buys weapon systems the military doesn't want to keep contractors funded. The country ship surplus military equipment to our police departments to maintain purchases for contractors to the military.
The people need to look at military with the same view we do to all government spending. It can not get and exemption.
but is an Army clerk any different form a clerk in any other government office.
Yes.
An Army clerk, if in uniform rather than a civilian employee, can always be handed a rifle and shoved into the front lines - and so can his bosses. This gives every military member with an IQ above room temperature a good reason to do what he can to keep the front-line units well-equipped, well-trained, and well-organized.
There's no similar motivation for civilian government employees. The usual result of a vast f**k-up is more funding to try to "fix" their department. If it comes to their superior's attention that they are dangerously incompetent, it's usually easier to put them in a no-work job for life than to fire them. Sometimes they can fail upwards repeatedly until they are the public (lying when not mistaken) voice of government, e.g. Fauci.
One of the few legitimate jobs the government has is to protect the rights of citizens, so yes they are different. A clerk at the department of education should not have a job, as the department shouldn't exist.
So it's OK to "steal" money from people in the form of taxes to pay for the military, because the military is a legitimate use of government.
Who decides what's legitimate or not? You, of course.
No actual argument. No coherent ideology. Just you picking and choosing out of your asshole.
A far more legitimate function of the government is to take from the successful and give to the lazy and incompetent.
How about government can do whatever the fuck the people it serves want it to do?
But that’s what everyone wants. Free stuff.
That implies that it belongs to someone in the first place.
But what belongs to whom is a matter of law. The people are supposed to be able to make their own laws.
When someone waxed about how democracy means the people will be able to vote themselves the treasury, what's forgotten is that whoever had their hands on it to begin with didn't get it by democratic means. So if democracy is plunder, it's simply thieving the thief.
You mean like making laws declaring African Americans to be slaves?
Well, gotta give it to you, you are consistent, Tony. Reprehensible, but consistent.
He makes this argument at least once a year. His abject and overt racism is really something.
what’s forgotten is that whoever had their hands on it to begin with didn’t get it by democratic means.
In your view all work or production for pay is immoral, apparently. And you don’t consider yourself an authoritarian asshole? You are.
"How about government can do whatever the fuck the people it serves want it to do?"
Shitstain hereby justifies the Holocaust, and the Commies mass murders.
How's it feel to be the bottom layer in a mile high pile of shit?
Beyond that, what the US and state governments do is often not what the majority wants, but what the power-mad people in government want - limited slightly by the Constitution when the courts are willing to enforce it, and by the chance we'll catch on and throw them out at the next elections for a different set of power-mad people. In socialist countries, that limit is gone, because they control who can run for office and who counts the votes, so the only limit left is the chance the people will rise up and _kill_ their rulers. That's one reason socialists want to confiscate guns.
Unfortunately, the usual outcome of a successful revolution is a new and as-bad-or-worse ruler. (Batista --> Castro, Louis XVI --> Robespierre --> Napoleon, Mexico and Haiti more times than I can cite here.) We dodged that once, perhaps because the American Revolution did NOT overturn the colonies' legislatures and local officials, but only freed these governments from governors imposed by Great Britain. I hope we won't need a real revolution to overthrow a political party that has ensured it's succession by taming the news media and rigging the elections...
So when the people it serves want to enslave/segregate blacks, that's OK with you? Yes, of course it is.
You mean like cleanse the land of undesirables?
Jews, Blacks, Indians, Muslims, Catholics, Protestants, Gypsys, Slavs, HindusUyghuirs, Kurds, Armeniams, Cossacks, the Bourgoise, the Landowners, the educated...
Tony and his ilk are the reason Big Government killed 120million people in the last century
Tony, you have openly advocated stealing from others through taxes so you don't have to work.
All taxes are paid in the same way.
Dumb.
The constitution. Dumbass.
"I think a big part of the problem is the way the military has become so entangled in our economy..."
I think a big part of the problem is easy access to the ballot box; an IQ test to make sure that those (like you) who cannot warm a room are excluded could sure help.
Now is not the time to be discussing cutting back on the military when they are so desperately needed to defend the Capitol against insurrectionists. Perhaps once we have rooted out all the dangerous straight white men, we can re-examine the proper role of the military, but not until then.
Great sarcasm!
Oh, wait....you’re serious. A-hole!!
A lot of the change in attitude is definitely directly connected to America's unfortunate transition from a republic into a global empire. A transition that by the way was almost entirely spearheaded by turn of the century progressives like the Roosevelts and Woodrow Wilson (a fact that Reason for some odd reason always somehow neglects to mention).
But I also suspect that a good part in the change of attitude is also a result of the transition from a military of conscripts to a military of 100% volunteers. Nobody in the world ever enjoys seeing their son drafted into war, but when service is entirely his choice people tend to respect and appreciate that more. And it's entirely possible to be opposed to the existence of a large military and yet not have antipathy towards the individuals serving.
"A transition that by the way was almost entirely spearheaded by turn of the century progressives like the Roosevelts and Woodrow Wilson (a fact that Reason for some odd reason always somehow neglects to mention)."
Oh bullshit! As usual, the lies of authoritarian haters of libertarian freedoms in general, and Reason specifically, are easily dispatched by a QUICK CASUAL SEARCH...
https://reason.com/2001/11/01/woodrow-wilson-rip-2/
Woodrow Wilson, R.I.P.
The folly of humanitarian military intervention
Wow, congratulations, you only had to go back 20 years to dig that one up. Do you know how stupid this makes you look?
Yes, Reason was still pretty legitimately libertarian 20 years ago. There was no Welchie Boy, and Goth Fonize Wop and Mango Ward had only been around for about a year at that point and hadn't had enough time to find fundamentally transform the place yet.
What's Wrong With Woodrow Wilson?
RADLEY BALKO | OCTOBER 11, 2010
Said Wilson, "Conformity will be the only virtue.
When the Government Declared War on the First Amendment
It all started with President Woodrow Wilson.
DAMON ROOT | SEPTEMBER 26, 2017
It all started with President Woodrow Wilson.
Woodrow Wilson Redux?
NICK GILLESPIE | APRIL 15, 2003
Woodrow Wilson once railed; and although [Paul] Wolfowitz?
Woodrow Wilson's Legacy
DAMON ROOT | NOVEMBER 30, 2009
Expunging Woodrow Wilson from Official Places of Honor
RANDY E. BARNETT | JUNE 25, 2015
Woodrow Wilson's Libertarian Lackeys
Beware the temptation to collaborate with the state.
JESSE WALKER | MAY 28, 2020
Woodrow Wilson was, famously, one of the least libertarian presidents in U.S. history.
Woodrow Wilson, R.I.P.
The folly of humanitarian military intervention
Will Barack Obama Join Woodrow Wilson in the Civil Liberties Hall of Shame?
DAMON ROOT | JUNE 11, 2013
At Reuters, liberal George Washington University law professor Jeffrey Rosen has a long and very interesting piece comparing the notorious civil liberties violations committed by President Woodrow Wilson and his attorney general A.
Friday Funnies: Woodrow Wilson on Campus
CHIP BOK | DECEMBER 4, 2015
What's Wrong With Woodrow Wilson?
RADLEY BALKO | OCTOBER 11, 2010
Said Wilson, "Conformity will be the only virtue.
Dixiecrats Triumphant
The secret history of Woodrow Wilson.
CHARLES PAUL FREUND | FEBRUARY 28, 2003
It really happened on March 4, 1913, the day Woodrow Wilson of Virginia and Georgia moved into the White House.
Dixiecrats Triumphant
The secret history of Woodrow Wilson
REASON STAFF | MARCH 1, 2003
It really happened on March 4, 1913, the day Woodrow Wilson of Virginia and Georgia moved into the White House.
From Woodrow to FDR to 43
MATT WELCH | DECEMBER 3, 2007
The non-partisan Congressional Research Service last month provided an interesting legal history and analysis; the Reader's Digest version is that it began with Woodrow Wilson during wartime, got expanded by FDR during peacetime, expanded further still during FDR's war, then rolled back by the post-Watergate Congress, but in such way that allowed for a new kind of expansion, which was accomplished by the PATRIOT Act.
George Wilson Bush?
JEFF TAYLOR | JANUARY 19, 2005
Glad to see more folks, conservatives even, finally noticing that GWB has more than a touch of Woodrow Wilson in him.
When the Government Declared War on the First Amendment
It all started with President Woodrow Wilson.
DAMON ROOT | SEPTEMBER 26, 2017
It all started with President Woodrow Wilson.
Obama Surpasses Wilson's Commutation Record
The president has now shortened more sentences than any of his predecessors.
JACOB SULLUM | JANUARY 18, 2017
That's more commutations than any other president in U.S. history—Woodrow Wilson, the previous record holder, issued 1,366—and more than Obama's 12 most recent predecessors combined.
Judge Napolitano on Lincoln, Wilson, and Roosevelt; Amity Shlaes on Coolidge and FDR
MATT WELCH | FEBRUARY 17, 2014
The judge's latest book, Theodore and Woodrow: How Two American Presidents Destroyed Constitutional Freedom, was subject of another Independents segment: Also comparing presidents was Amity Shlaes, author most recently of Coolidge, and also The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression: Reminder: All these videos and many score more are available on The Independents' playlist page.
Dear Liberals, Stop Defending Racist Progressive Woodrow Wilson
Surprisingly, the 28th president still has his defenders on the left.
DAMON ROOT | NOVEMBER 28, 2015
I never cease to be amazed when I encounter this sort of liberal apologia for Woodrow Wilson.
End imports.
HOW RECENT is recent enough for you?
WHEN is the last time you condemned Attila the Hun?
Spaz flag
Sevo LOVES Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and other leftie despots! HATES Reason and others who defend liberty and individual freedom!
"Principals, not principles" says Sevo... If you love freedom, democracy, and TRUTH, AND you are benevolent... But Sevo hates your haircut? Sevo will potty-mouth you all day long!
PLEASE depart to North Korea, where your type is treasured!
Spaz flag
"Sevo LOVES Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and other leftie despots!"
Uhhhhhh, yeah, sure he does. You are off your rocker.
That's the reason spaz gets flagged, not read.
You attack posts you've not even read, and are proud of it! A sign of narcissistic arrogance, blending into evil! STUDY UP on your affliction, that you might begin to work on healing!
If you ever come around to wanting to work on your sickness, start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie,
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.
Spaz is active today!
Sqrsly openly advocates for leftists, even defending bidens current policies because trump was soooooooo mean. It is hilarious watching him project.
Looks like sarcasmic started early though by pulling out the sock so early. Or... he didnt stop from last night.
Hi Tulpa!
“Dear Abby” is a personal friend of mine. She gets some VERY strange letters! For my amusement, she forwards some of them to me from time to time. Here is a relevant one:
Dear Abby, Dear Abby,
My life is a mess,
Even Bill Clinton won’t stain my dress,
I whinny seductively for the horses,
They tell me my picnic is short a few courses,
My real name is Mary Stack,
NO ONE wants my hairy crack!
On disability, I live all alone,
Spend desperate nights by the phone,
I found a man named Richard (Dick) Decker,
But he won’t give me his hairy pecker!
Dick Decker’s pecker is reserved for farm beasts,
I am beastly, yes! But my crack’s full of yeasts!
So Dear Abby, that’s just a poetic summary… You can read about the Love of my Life, Richard Decker, here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/11/farmers-kept-refusing-let-him-have-sex-with-their-animals-so-he-sought-revenge-authorities-say/#comments-wrapper
Farmers kept refusing to let him have sex with their animals. So he sought revenge, authorities say.
Decker the hairy pecker told me a summary of his story as below:
Decker: “Can I have sex with your horse?”
Farmer: “Lemme go ask the horse.”
Pause…
Farmer: “My horse says ‘neigh’!”
And THAT was straight from the horse’s mouth! I’m not horsin’ around, here, no mare!
So Richard Decker the hairy pecker told me that, apparently never even realizing just HOW DEEPLY it hurt me, that he was all interested in farm beasts, while totally ignoring MEEE!!
So I thought maybe I could at least liven up my lonely-heart social life, by refining my common interests that I share with Richard Decker… I, too, like to have sex with horses!
But Dear Abby, the horses ALL keep on saying “neigh” to my whinnying sexual advances!
Some tell me that my whinnying is too whiny… Abby, I don’t know how to fix it!
Dear Abby, please don’t tell me “get therapy”… I can’t afford it on my disability check!
Now, along with my crack full of yeasts… I am developing anorexia! Some are calling me a “quarter pounder with cheese”, but they are NOT interested at ALL, in eating me!!! They will NOT snack on my crack!
What will I DO, Dear Abby?!?!?
-Desperately Seeking Horses, Men, or ANYTHING, in Fort Worth,
Yours Truly,
Mary Stack / Tulpa / Mary’s Period / “.” / Satan
'Nother spaz flag
Fuck off sarc. And go to rehab.
Well, that's something.
Yeah, but, but...
Walking back your bullshit "riot" claim?
Jan 6 was a long time ago. Why are troops still in DC? I thought walls didn't work by the way
To most people, it is perfectly clear why progressives would try to hide the misconduct and hateful ideology of other progressives. Maybe you don't understand that because you are an imbecile?
Maybe you don't understand that I was quoting titles and sub-titles from Reason... because you are an imbecile?
I am jaw-droppingly astounded when I contemplate the depths of hatred that I sense in the utter dishonesty and projection of J W 2! Maybe... Just maybe... Because in order to FULLY understand evil, one must actually BE evil?
Oh, but according to the likes of those who project, as J W 2 does, anyone who accuses J W 2 of evil, must BE evil! Because J W 2 is the definition of goodness and perfection!
J W 2, read this here and see why it might be that you feel you MUST attack those who actually are benevolent, and treasure individual freedoms!
http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/
But that completely skips the important years when such articles were sorely needed. Like 2011. An entire year with not a single article about Wilson or Roosevelt. Which was the 100th year of BOTH Wilson and Roosevelt announcing their entrance into the presidential race on the explicit platform of creating a standing army that would be seen in 100 years as the only possible military. 2011 was the year I myself decided that if no one else was going to question the 100 year plan of progressives and commies then I would have to go along with it as well. I'm sure 350 million of my fellow Americans all agreed with that.
A tragedy of omission. Or more likely a massive conspiracy.
Reason's search feature and ... 2011 "Woodrow Wilson" yields a BUNCH of results!
If You Are Really Into U.S. Presidents, Don't Watch This Special Freedom Watch Episode Featuring Nick Gillespie
REASON STAFF | FEBRUARY 23, 2011
Was Woodrow Wilson the country's first technocratic president?
Nick Gillespie Challenges Myths About U.S. Presidents on Freedom Watch
REASON STAFF | FEBRUARY 21, 2011
Was Woodrow Wilson the country's first technocratic president?
Nick Gillespie Challenges Myths About U.S. Presidents on Freedom Watch
REASON STAFF | FEBRUARY 21, 2011
Was Woodrow Wilson the country's first technocratic president?
Nick Gillespie, Judge Napolitano Bust Myths of US Presidents
NICK GILLESPIE | FEBRUARY 20, 2012
Was Woodrow Wilson the country's first technocratic president?
Jane Harman We Knew Ye Too Well
TIM CAVANAUGH | FEBRUARY 7, 2011
It's more about seeing the Woodrow Wilson Center as the preeminent place for seeking bipartisan solutions.
5 Myths About Newt Gingrich (Including Whether He's an Intellectual)
NICK GILLESPIE | NOVEMBER 28, 2011
"The most seriously professorial politician since Woodrow Wilson?"
Get Ready for Tomorrow Night's State of the Union [Livetweeting]!
State rituals!
ED KRAYEWSKI | JANUARY 27, 2014
Woodrow Wilson brought the practice back into fashion, and with it launched into full gear the project of the "imperial presidency."
15 Tons and What Do You Get?
JACOB SULLUM | FEBRUARY 10, 2012
"It's important to keep the seizure in perspective," said Eric Olson, a security expert at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.
Barack Obama is Such a Reluctant Warrior that He's Personally Lobbying Members of Congress for Approval to Attack Syria
PETER SUDERMAN | SEPTEMBER 3, 2013
Aaron David Miller, a vice president and distinguished scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, writing at CNN: To be sure, there are real risks in acting on option three [proceeding with a limited strike] and Obama most assuredly is a reluctant warrior.
Thomas Sowell, on States: "They should go bankrupt. I'm looking forward to it."
MATT WELCH | JANUARY 24, 2011
It's painful to read Woodrow Wilson's glowing words when the Federal Reserve was set up, about the things it was supposed to do -- like keep the money supply from either contracting suddenly or having runaway inflation or having bank failures and so forth.
D.E.A. "Commando" Squads Meld Drug War with War on Terror
TATE WATKINS | NOVEMBER 8, 2011
Eric Olson of the Woodrow Wilson International Center's Mexico Institute gave Riggs his thoughts on the subject: "The government of Mexico certainly does not describe the organizations as terrorist organizations.
What Would William Howard Taft Do About Facebook?
JEFF ROSEN | APRIL 10, 2018
And the Jeffersonian Woodrow Wilson, championing the "New Freedom," relied on his economic advisor Louis Brandeis's libertarian critique of "the curse of bigness" to argue for breaking up the trusts, or preventing them from forming in the first place.
Cutting Federal Funding for the Arts Wouldn't Kill Them; Might Make Them Better
One bright spot in Donald Trump's very bad, very insane budget plan is his willingness to cut taxpayer-funded culture.
NICK GILLESPIE | FEBRUARY 13, 2018
Indeed, in February [2011], scandalized Rep.
How We Got to Be a Passport Nation
MATT WELCH | SEPTEMBER 7, 2011
On December 15, 1915, President Woodrow Wilson issued Executive Order No. 2285, "[r]equiring American citizens traveling abroad to procure passports" and advising the Secretary of State, in co-operation with the Secretary of the Treasury, will make arrangements for the inspection of passports of all persons, American or foreign, leaving this country.
War, Peace, and the Next President
More military engagement seems likely.
STEVE CHAPMAN | FEBRUARY 22, 2016
ArmyWhen President Woodrow Wilson ran for re-election in 1916, as Europeans slaughtered each other on an unprecedented scale, his slogan was, "He kept us out of war."
Voting for War, Again and Again
Looking at recent history, you would conclude not that the Constitution allows the president to make war, but that it requires him to do so.
STEVE CHAPMAN | MAY 7, 2012
Ninety-six years ago, when President Woodrow Wilson ran for re-election, two notable things happened: 1) His campaign used the slogan "He kept us out of war," and 2) he won.
Dead or Alive
Did the killing of Osama bin Laden violate U.S. law?
DAMON ROOT | MAY 5, 2011
Speaking before the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in August 2007, presidential candidate Barack Obama made no secret of his willingness to order the targeted killing of Osama bin Laden or any other key member of Al Qaeda, no matter where they might be hiding out at the time.
The End of the American Century
It's time to practice Jeffersonian libertarianism at home and abroad
TERRY MICHAEL | FEBRUARY 16, 2011
This approach has been sorely abused by many presidents, including Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, George W.
Obama's Teddy Imitation Falls Flat
The "New Populism" is unlikely to solve Obama's political woes.
GENE HEALY | DECEMBER 13, 2011
After losing the 1912 race, Roosevelt finished out his career calling Woodrow Wilson a coward for not getting us into World War I quickly enough.
Campus Speech Codes Are Bad For Higher Education
We should counter hateful speech with more words-not government force
JOHN STOSSEL | NOVEMBER 24, 2011
Under Woodrow Wilson, Eugene V.
Subordinating the Constitution to progressive internationalism: From Libya to climate change
DECEMBER 2, 2015
And recall, too, progressive rhetoric from the days of Woodrow Wilson and beyond that ultimately some sort of world governing body is necessary lest the nations of the world destroy themselves via total war.
Hillary Clinton's Dangerously Coherent Foreign Policy
Unlike Donald Trump, the Democratic nominee's ideas are frighteningly clear
THADDEUS RUSSELL | JULY 25, 2016
Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John F.
end imports... I'll now find a specific example among these, to show Reason NOT guilty of sucking Wilson butt!!!!
You really expect to change the narrative with facts?
Reason is a leftist publication. They were mean to Trump, they weren't mean to Biden, and they ignore everything that is important. Never mind if they wrote nice things about Trump and mean things about Biden, or that you can find articles about the important subjects they supposedly ignore, the narrative says otherwise which means the facts are wrong.
"...the narrative (of and by and for MammaBahnFuhrer, JesseBahnFuhrer, etc.) says otherwise which means the facts are wrong."
Kudos! Most excellent summary!
Spaz!
Hey look, sarcasmic's sock that he's outed literally dozens of times in his drunken stupors agrees with sarcasmic!
Hey, remember when you said you were leaving to Glibertarians.com, taking your sockpuppets with you, and never coming back? It's funny because you came crawling back in less than 1 week after you got shit on because you're a radical leftist and nobody there liked you, exactly as I predicted. It's almost as funny as when you keep saying you've muted people, but then obsessively respond to everything they post to piss and whinge about how persecuted you are.
Yep, sarc’s broken.
Well I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!
99% of these articles have not one fucking thing to do with Woodrow Wilson and you're just picking up noise from the comments section you brainless fucking toad. Good thing you replied to yourself on your sarcasmic handle to really bolster that retardation though.
fuck off Tulpa
See it's funny because you're a confirmed sockpuppet operator who routinely outs yourself in drunken blackouts, and you project that onto everyone else.
https://reason.com/2011/01/24/thomas-sowell-on-states-they-s/
Out-take below...
It's painful to read Woodrow Wilson's glowing words when the Federal Reserve was set up, about the things it was supposed to do—like keep the money supply from either contracting suddenly or having runaway inflation or having bank failures and so forth.
All those things empirically have become worse after there was a Federal Reserve System. So, there's no question that there are good things the Federal Reserve could do just as there are good things that the government could do. But people who say that never seem to want to look at the record and say, "Never mind what they could do; what have they actually done and what are they likely to do, given the incentives?" The incentives are there for both the Fed and for the political branches to interfere with the economy, to the detriment of the economy.
Spaz is really putting out piles of bullshit today!
10 years ago Reason re-published a piece by Thomas Sowell that mentioned Woodrow Wilson, so that means they didn't actually publish any of the radical leftist bullshit you thought you read in black and white. Who are you going to believe, sarcasmic's lunatic sockpuppet or your lying eyes?
Hey brilliant lying sack of evil deception... PLEASE link to Reason.com's "...radical leftist bullshit..." Something other than their lack of constantly sucking Orange Dick, I mean? Can you do it?
Meanwhile, try reading the FACTS as linked below!
https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?
Oh but I know… Anything that disagrees with the fascist echo chamber is “Marxist”, right? No matter HOW factual it might be!
Totalitarians want to turn GOP into GOD (Grand Old Dicktatorshit).
https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2021/05/30/the-denver-nuggets-were-in-a-portland-hotel-as-it-was-surrounded-by-a-furious-crowd-seeking-andy-ngo/
The Denver Nuggets basketball team was staying in The Nines hotel in downtown Portland on Friday night when leftist activists surrounded the building in pursuit of a man they believed to be conservative author Andy Ngo, WW has learned.
Shame the Warriors weren't there. Curry and Kerr could have jumped right in.
Just more home court advantage for the Blazers!
https://babylonbee.com/news/people-who-tweet-in-support-of-foreign-wars-to-be-automatically-enlisted-in-armed-forces
No fear; the military will soon be populated by the wokerati, with the requisite number of non-binary, intersex, and assorted others whom we can count on to defend freedom. How they'll defend it is an open question as the new recruiting ads seem to leave out the entire purpose of a national defense, but I'm told it will be great.
Attitudes will change, now that the focus of military spending is no longer on combat systems, but is now on hormones and interior decorating.
How the iNazi party opens a tunnel:
https://youtu.be/b-TKQaqml6k
"It certainly doesn't include the potential perils of conflicts to come, including growing speculation over war with China and Russia..."
A war with Russia would be entirely justified.
Don't forget that Russia committed an act of war by hacking our 2016 election and installing a 3 decade Russian intelligence asset as President of the United States. And if that wasn't bad enough, Russia also offered bounties on US soldiers in Afghanistan.
So now is not the time to worry about our military being "too big" or Pentagon spending being "too high." We Koch / Reason libertarians finally have a Commander in Chief we can support. And if President Biden takes us to war with Russia, I will absolutely support him.
#LibertariansForGettingToughWithRussia
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1399369407978258437?s=19
JUST IN - Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov says Russia is monitoring the persecution of those behind the January 6 riot at the US Capitol, hints at violations of human and opposition rights.
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Haha invading Ukraine is a-ok though
LOL. And im sure you get most of your opinions from Lavrov and other Russian sources
I can't wait till the millennials take over the world and inject a little maturity into things. Obvious troll retweeting an obvious troll.
Anyone who makes war on the United States in broad daylight on camera is lucky to be in a cell instead of a hole.
It’s time for you to buy a big new flag for your pickup truck.
Coexist with this, motherfucker.
Careful boys, if you cross Tony he might obsequiously suck on your cock.
Yes. Begging for money on twitch to loser adolescent boys is the height of maturity. Or are you talking about safe places filled with coloring books and puppies?
Perhaps. The endless emotional soap operas of exhausting personalities like Bibi and Trump are hardly some kind of improvement.
It's cool how you're an anti-Semitic piece of shit in addition to all of your lovely qualities.
Of course we can't trust the military. We've been told how the ranks are full of seditious rednecks, and that the leaders actually hand out assault rifles for free.
"Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people."
We've moved beyond using armies to enslave the people. That's what paramilitary police forces are for.
Which slaves are you imagining here?
I see a greyed out comment from a troll. Without looking I can say for certain that it contains the word "you" because it's about me, not the topic, and it's expecting me to defend something I never said, thought or did.
You block somebody, and then make up stories about what THEY are saying about YOU?
And you still wonder why you are the butt of so much humor?
A greyed out comment from Sevo.
Must be something along the lines of "Die you leftists piece of shit" or something similarly intelligent.
You and your doppelganger "victimhood" are a real laugh riot!
Another greyed out comment from Sevo.
I imagine some unintelligible ranting from Abe Simpson.
My goodness, you certainly have an active fantasy life! No wonder reality is such a mystery to you.
New jeff is broken.
It's hilarious. First he was leaving and never coming back because he was tired of being persecuted by Mean Girls. He couldn't stay away for even 1 week. So then they give him a mute button. He publicly announces that he's muting everybody besides his and cytotoxic's sockpuppets. Then he continues posting in literally every comment thread about his persecution by the Mean Girls who he supposedly muted. He doesn't know much, but he knows he's being persecuted. Perpetually.
Further, he's too STUPID to understand his self-referential lack of awareness!
That takes "Stupid, and proud of it!" to a new level of idiocy!
Actually I directly asked you a question of which windmills you thought were giants Don Coixote. It perfectly applied to your sophist remark.
Which ever lefty shit is doing the muting seems to think it is others' duty to respond to totally bogus claims rather than to call them on their bullshit.
Their bullshitting *is* the subject.
By the way, do you ever wonder why only Jeff or dee respond to you for those who aren't muted?
Lol.
You spend a humdredfold the effort doimg the exact things you accuse your enemies pf doing rather than discussing libertarianism
It's fitting that your persecution by users you've supposedly muted continues as it did before: entirely in your fevered imagination.
Hey remember how you told us that a cop shooting an unarmed woman in the face was fully justified because she trespassed on federal property, but that arresting people in Portland who tried to burn down a federal courthouse after locking people inside was literal Brownshirt fascism?
Maybe you should shut the fuck up about militarized police as you're rah-rah-rahing for loyalty oaths for the Praetorian guard and furiously jacking your persistently limp whisky dick to videos of federal agents murdering unarmed women in cold blood.
so the idiot writer's argument for the U.S. comes from ........wait for it....France.....lol, which has been in perpetual turmoil since 1789.... again, Reason writers are simply intellectual dilettantes
Too late.
As the comments of many indicate.
Yup. For example:
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/09/09/could-coup-happen-in-united-states
29% of Americans could imagine a situation in which they would support the military seizing control of the federal government, while 41% could not imagine such a situation.
Republicans (43%) are more than twice as likely as Democrats (20%) to say that they could conceive of a situation in which they would support a military coup in the United States. Independents tend to say that they could not (38%) rather than could (29%) imagine supporting a coup.
The proportion of the country that would support a military takeover increases when people are asked whether they would hypothetically support the military stepping in to take control from a civilian government which is beginning to violate the constitution. 43% of Americans would support the military stepping in while 29% would be opposed.
That is just sad.
Answering yourself? This was 6 years ago.
Yes, Republicans support and believe in the military. That they have values and honor. They would believe that a takeover is in the best interest of the country
Democrats believe it's better to cheat, steal, and lie to get power because they know better than anyone. They believe the wrong leaders are in place and they should be. Russia - disproved but how many believe it?
So the team which would support a military coup is the one with "values and honor"?
Good point. Let's ask George Washington, James Madison, and Thomas Jefferson. Certainly patriots NEVER support military coups.
How about Bible-thumping high school dropouts with sever mental illness and an internet addiction to a cult of Trump not decide what's in my best interest?
It's fucking amazing how you can attach words like honor to a group of people whose big idea is how they can't shit on brown and trans people without getting criticized.
Bullies. Weak, sad, insecure uneducated assholes who get off on shitting on people weaker than them. A boring fucking story. Honor is just a word to signify tribal allegiance to you. It means nothing to you. You have provided no example of Republicans acting honorably.
Was it sometime between Trump bragging about manually raping women and Trump shitting on soldiers for not being smart like him and avoiding service?
Poor Tony. Still obsessed with Trump.
Said someone who probably thought 20 Benghazi investigations weren't quite enough.
I'm glad you want to move on. It means you have a capacity for embarrassment.
Shitstain lies still or again; it's what shitstain DOES!
Woof, the projection in this post can be seen from Pluto.
It's not an accident that left-wing GenZers have the highest rates of mental illness in the country.
Interesting that even in your power fantasies you're still a pathetic bitch wallowing in his own weakness and pathetically attempting to use that as a cudgel.
Remember when you spent 8 years shitting on the military as a bunch of high school dropout redneck white supremacists until the day Obama got elected, and then they turned in virtuous warriors defending your faggot butthole from those evil Libyans? Lmfao.
Was it sometime between Trump bragging about manually raping women....
That's because Trump's rape robot, which automatically rapes women, is in the shop getting upgrades.
Jesus Tony - you're a fucking idiot.
kind of strange since many politicians and media were calling for the military to remove Trump even before the election. but thats poling for you.
Because the Praetorian guard that's been posted in the militarized zone that was once Washington D.C. with your full-throated (in every possible sense of the word) approval is, what, a local militia? But wait, you don't like local militias either, right? Weren't those the unarmed insurrectionists who nearly overthrew the United States government?
Militia isn't a bunch of inbred white supremacists heading out to the woods to jerk off to the Turner diaries you fucking neo-Nazi.
"Militia isn’t a bunch of inbred white supremacists heading out to the woods to jerk off to the Turner diaries you fucking neo-Nazi.
Hey, cowardly piece of lefty shit, care to explain how that addresses the comment?
Try going back to your imbecilic whining about railroads; you were once again called on your continuing stream of bullshit.
What about knuckle-dragging hood rats?
Feel free to waltz around Park Hill or north Aurora, you can find your pick of them there.
Let's see, first I enjoy a lot of the commentators here. That's what I come for. Some of the best on any sites. Real calls out both sides.
Reason...hate the military, global warming, open borders, no tariffs, TDS, drugs are good, and defund the police.
I notice they like listing police violence (which is rare honestly compared to crimes and cops) but they don't trust on the defund police and all the violence
They would have more credibility on the police issue of they were honest about the dangers cops face.
Police officer isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous professions. Fuck off with that stupid bullshit. Reason has no credibility on the issue because they only pretend to give a fuck when it advances their race-obsessed narrative and completely ignore it and even rally to the side of the cops when the agents of the state are spying, bullying, terrorizing, and summarily executing the people they don't like.
With the current bunch in charge we will transition from a large standing military to a sitting one, especially when they pee,
Not better bunch
A large standing army that can be duped to secure lucrative foreign contracts for the elite whose lives are never in jeopardy.
Always boots on foreign lands.
Remember we had a President who was the first in several decades not to start any new wars and Reason writers could only complain.
But keep telling us you care about principles. It’s soooo believable.
Such a shallow, bullshit hot take. Trump was too lazy and ignorant to deal in foreign policy in any way that couldn't fit inside the cover of a children's book recommended for ages 3–7.
He abandoned US Kurdish allies to be slaughtered. He killed more civilians with American bombs than Obama did in 2 terms. In fact, he campaigned on doing so. He took credit for creating peace between Israel and... UAE?
Meanwhile he did start a war on the United States in part at the behest of foreign powers.
And his method of dealing with a pandemic was an official policy of getting everyone infected.
You're scraping for excuses to believe he wasn't a dumpster fire. But he is a dumpster fire.
No one believes you phonies any more. You had the "no wars" President and you complain about personality stuff like a middle school girl.
That's literally the only thing you know about Trump's foreign policy. One half a sentence that puts him in the Good Ape column. You don't know fuck about what he did overseas. Not one ounce of fuck.
He campaigned on killing more civilians, and he followed through. More than Obama. He loved dropping bombs on innocent people.
So you tell me how that's different from anything Obama did. Obama didn't start a war anywhere. He didn't invade a country on lies.
Yeah, your phoniness and lack of principle are about me. Changing the subject to me is the most obvious way to show everyone you have nothing of substance to offer.
There's a lot of that going around, which is what makes that Mute User feature sooooooooo nice.
Mute everybody who makes fun of you, asshole. You, shitstain and turd can have wonderful conversations.
You'll notice that literally the only people he ever replies to are his own sockpuppets and all of the Mean Girls who he supposedly muted.
And yet the only thing you've posted in this and every other thread you've participated in since the mute button was introduced is statements that you are muting users, and then obsessive replies to those "muted" users about how persecuted you are.
It's almost like you're a mewling little bitch who blames everyone else for their problems. Almost like that's the reason your wife left you and you became a homeless alcoholic living on welfare, all by your own admission.
Of course you left out the part where you lost custody of your kids because you were fucking your own daughter.
"...Of course you left out the part where you lost custody of your kids because you were fucking your own daughter."
Not yet proven; possibly the son.
What you must keep in mind when translating from Shit-Speak to English is the predominance of lies. Flat-out, no-foolin' lies, in the hopes that someone is as stupid as shit-stain and will fall for it. These do not represent 'misunderstandings' or anything of the like; they are LIES. Hence:
"...That’s literally the only thing you know about Trump’s foreign policy. One half a sentence that puts him in the Good Ape column. You don’t know fuck about what he did overseas. Not one ounce of fuck...."
Compared to the facts:
- 4 years of non-conflict between the Pals and the Israelis.
- 3 or 4 Near East treaties.
- A serious attempt to de-nuke the NKs.
- Not one new war.
- A serious attempt to remove troops from the Near East, thwarted by the military brass who should have been 'retired' immediately.
Of course, given the level of mendacity or flat-out stupidity, it's not worth asking shit-stain how that compares to the record of Obo, or droolin' Joe in his 'first hundred days' (remember that pile of statist cheer-leading?).
It is best to assume that in anything posted by shit-stain, a connection to truth or facts will be purely accidental. Some have attributed this to some 'clever intent', but that presumes entirely too much. Pretty sure Ken hit on one primary cause: Shit-stain simply has not the mental capability to separate his/her fantasies from reality.
I'd add another; shit-stain by his/her admission is commonly drunk. Just, plain, irrationally, incompetently, cross-eyed, DRUNK.
The lot probably enough to explain such piles of bullshit.
"...you complain about personality stuff like a middle school girl."
There's a reason for that.
Hey, you you warmed what might happen if you kept pushing radical left shibboleths as national policy. Don't cry now because what was foreseeable came to pass.
Quick, how many 16 year old American citizens did Trump murderdrone again?
Thanks for proving you don’t actually care about war or the military or well, anything you cried about for the entirety of the Bush administration.
Wouldn't it be convenient if the only fighting force ready to be mobilized were right-wing militias who've been systematically armed over the past 40 years. Just like the founders intended. "Give me Mr. Potato Head's correct gender or give me death!"
Poor Tony. Drunk already. Or maybe still drunk.
I'm always amazed when losers with no self responsibility like Tony attack those who make that position possible through their sacrifices.
If you support the troops you wouldn't do such butt work for the guy who tried to overthrow the United States, rendering all their honor and sacrifice meaningless.
Hillary isn’t a guy. Not that I know of anyway.
Well yes, I have a hard time imagining many servicemen and servicewomen saying "The reasons why I fight and risk being crippled or killed, is so that the USA can become a 1-party state". 1-party state "R" or "D", or even "L", sensible people reject ALL 1-party states, because history clearly shows that they suck! Maybe not immediately, but surely, very quickly! "Absolute power" and corruption, and all that, ya know...
https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?
Oh but I know… Anything that disagrees with the JesseBahnFuhrer and MammaBahnFuhrer (etc.) echo chamber is “Marxist”, right? No matter HOW factual it might be!
Totalitarians want to turn GOP into GOD (Grand Old Dicktatorshit).
Pile of spaz-shit today!
Good job sarcasmic, when it comes to credible libertarian commentary on current events, you can't do any better than Salon.
The article is overwhelmingly FACTS, with very little editorial comment. I noticed that you have not (can not) refute the FACTS there presented!
Here, I've got an equally credible source explaining that Obama was America's first dictator. It's on the internet on a rabidly partisan website, so it MUST be true!
You can tell Tony cares sooooo much about the war issue by the way he changes the subject to Mr. Potato Head.
Tony hates wars, other than every one that's been started by a Democrat. Which is to say, all of them in the last 2 centuries with the lone exception of Iraq.
Memorial Day isnt for "thanking the troops", you worthless imbecille, its for rememvering the fallen.
Wait 5 and a half months and shit on Veterans Day
The fact that this was the narrative they went with instead of just admitting the troops are what allow freedom to actually be achieved in some form was amazing.
It's also more than a bit ironic coming from the "We need 25,000 Praetorian guards in the capital to put down that terrible unarmed insurrection where the only person killed was an unarmed woman shot in the face by a black cop" brigade.
You get it. Reason did not.
+1
Memorial Day
It is a time to also reflect. Then we eat and be happy.
We can each do that in our own way. I found this.
Exalted, compassionate God,
Grant perfect peace in Your sheltering Presence,
Among the holy and the pure, whose radiance is like the heavens,
To all the men and women who gave their lives in defense of our country and the freedom of the world.
Master of mercy, may they find eternal shelter beneath Your sheltering wings, and may their souls be bound up in the bond of life, together with the righteous souls who stand in Your Presence.
May they rest with honor, and may their actions hasten the day when righteousness, peace and security shall prevail forever, when “nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they study war anymore” and when the Glory of the Eternal will be revealed, and all flesh and blood will see it together.
The fullness of blissful joy in Your Presence, at Your right hand forevermore. Amen.”
Thanks and Amen, Echospinner!
Spaz-shit
Even though what he wrote utterly and completely defies what you shat up the thread with. Lol.
It is a version from the Jewish Chaplains Council of the graveside prayer El Molei Rachamim אֵל מָלֵא רַחֲמִים. I posted it as something meaningful to me in hope that people would find something meaningful to them.
Why diminish genuine sacrifice, effort, courage and honor with low-rent superstition? Those who died deserve more and better than fairy tales of the gullible.
Careful you don't cut yourself on that edge you 14 year old /r/atheism faggot.
"...Those who died deserve more and better than fairy tales of the gullible..."
And they certainly do deserve better than sanctimonious flap-jawed clap-trap from lefty assholes like you.
A real reverend would offer something better.
https://twitter.com/Anthea06274890/status/1399289705917788165?s=19
NYPD responds to reports of a shooting in Harlem. This is how they were received... [video]
Well, duh. They deserve to be killed on sight because they are such racist pieces of shit. And then when they stop responding to calls in Harlem they'll be racist pieces of shit who don't care about black people.
https://twitter.com/RobertPLewis/status/1399427695646281734?s=19
One thing that I've been upset about given my background as a Green Beret...
If an election that was so blatantly fraudulent as Nov would have happened in Africa or S. America, there would already be a company worth of Green Berets Air dropped in with pallets of cash, weapons-
...and supplies, training their rebel groups to launch an overthrow of their corrupt usurpers.
Yet none of the nations that our Special Forces have been training & state dept has been funding bothered to return the favor when we most needed it.
How funny would it be if it's-
...the very nation the usurpers have put so much effort into fraudulently calling the boogeyman (Russia Russia Russia), a nation who themselves lived through a bloody Marxist takeover (Lenin, Stalin) were the ones in the end to help us right this wrong.
O/T: Wow. Just wow. Read all the responses. You will be shaking your head.
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-truth-to-the-QAnon-conspiracy-theory-Is-there-any-evidence-supporting-any-aspect-of-it-Is-there-any-evidence-that-debunks-it
Yass kween! Please try to use the words "ya'll" and "folks" too. If you repeat enough of your middle aged wine aunt Facebook incantations you will be instantly transported to your fainting couch.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1399423867437957129?s=19
Antifa setting fires outside the White House - one year ago today [video]
inSuRrECTioN!!!!!!!!
actually at best a half ass insurgency...to be honest..if your an American citizen today you have more to fear with a govt that refuses to protect your property and life because of false narratives than a bunch of unarmed morons roaming the halls of the Capital where often morons protected by armed police waste my money and send our boys to die in foreign wars.
I hope all of our right-wing friends here celebrated Memorial Day in the proper patriotically correct way. No barbecues, no picnics, no boating, no golfing. You're not allowed to enjoy yourself. You're supposed to meditate 24/7 on the sacrifices our hero soldiers made in your name. You must dress in sackcloth and ashes and flog yourself in remembrance of their tremendous sacrifice. But by no means are you allowed to do anything fun this weekend, or to even suggest to others that they enjoy the long weekend. That is sacrilege against the holy state.
The state isn't holy right now. The wrong people are in charge.
Lol. The movie theaters are finally reopening after the Covid 19 lockdowns and you still project more than AMC.
I hope you celebrated by inching ever closer to the fate of the "Gluttony" victim from "Se7en," fatty.
How many flags did you wipe your fat ass with today?
How exactly do you meditate 24/7 for just one day (or weekend)? Do you mean 24 minutes per hour, 7 hours per day?
cytotoxic sneaked out of math class to get in an extra lunch period in school, give him a break.
So right-wingers are state worshipers now instead of anarchist insurrectionists on the verge of executing a military coup without any firearms?
Should we give a big "thank you for your service" to the 25,000 Praetorian guards in D.C. protecting us from the hordes of violent right-wing savages who want to overthrow the government they worship, or would that be gacuhe?
"So right-wingers are state worshipers now instead of anarchist insurrectionists on the verge of executing a military coup without any firearms?..."
And without the military brass who were trying to keep the troops in the Near East, and who delayed a flag nomination, since "Trump never promoted women?
"Five Days in May" is a far better primer on how the republic might be compromised than any lefty fantasy regarding the 1/6 protests at the capitol.
But the left loves gov't control of the public!
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1399451508664635397?s=19
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https://twitter.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1399363609629704193?s=19
An intriguing aspect of lockdowns is how the architects knew they would never work if enforcement was govt alone. That was the reason for the fear avalanche, cultural hate against dissent, and media frenzy, zip code by zip code. It was part of the plan and they are proud of it.
Don't worry there won't be much of an Armed Services once Biden purges the military brave patriotic soldiers, sailors and airmen.
Don't worry, our resident special ops commando cytotoxic/Depresso Liber the self-confessed lardass who was so terrified of a virus that he spent a year hiding in his home in the greater Toronto area in Canada demanding that everyone wear useless face diapers to give him the illusion of security will personally unleash his army of Apache attack helicopters on the boogaloo boys who are conspiring even as we speak to undermine our freely, fairly, democratically elected leaders who democratically lead our precious democratic institutions!
BTW, so it does not go down the memory hole and to make sure DoL gets proper CREDIT for his lies, in which:
1) DoL accuses Ken of lying;
2) I ask for a cite;
3) DoL calls me names;
4) I again ask for a cite;
5) DoL silence, etc:
De Oppresso Liber
May.29.2021 at 8:11 pm
“Ken is though. And he thinks it is perfectly moral to convince his more naive fellow travelers of a gross lie.”
Sevo
May.29.2021 at 9:38 pm
“Unlike you, (and shitstain) I’ve yet to see a lie from Ken; I’m calling bullshit from a lying piece of lefty shit.
Got one? Let’s see it, asshole.”
De Oppresso Liber
May.30.2021 at 1:34 am
“‘^his more naive fellow travelers”
Sevo
May.30.2021 at 10:20 pm
“Believing you to be a lying pile of lefty shit, you made a claim. I pointed out that you are, more than likely, that lying pile of lefty shit, but gave you the opportunity to prove me wrong by offering just one cite to back your claim. You claim to “know Ken lies” (plural), but you didn’t even have to prove more than one, just one. Instead, we get:
“^”his more naive fellow travelers””
24 hours later, and the best you can do is sling more bullshit, asshole?
Did you spend time planning how to prove you are, indeed, a lying piece of lefty shit? Or are you simply too fucking stupid to understand that you accomplished exactly that? Or (more likely) both?
Are you now surprised to be held in the (proper) contempt as the lying piece of lefty shit you’ve proven to be?”
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1399576221382582275?s=19
A school in NYC showed this video to 6-year-olds to teach them about the wonders of masturbation. Schools across the country are grooming children and not even hiding it anymore. Fully out in the open now.
[Link]
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1399528915392208898?s=19
U.S. flag on crane mistaken for noose by Connecticut NAACP chapter [link]
Fool, said I, you do not know, despots, like a cancer, grows
Hear my words and I might teach you, take my arms then I might reach you
But my words, like silent raindrops fell, and echoed in the wells of despots , https://wapexclusive.com ,And the morons bowed and prayed to the orange god they’d made
And the sign flashed its warning in the words that it was forming
And the sign said the words of the despots are written in the Biggest Lies
And tenement halls, and shouted, in the sounds of despots
Get some professional help. You really need it.
The classic by Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel is more poignant today. Our phones, devices, social media, Covid lockdowns force us ever more into individual sounds of silence.
To break out of that we each need to get out of our comfort zone. It is difficult to change and take chances.
We do that. The government cannot impose very much when you walk out or get in your car every day.
So I still encourage people to just go to CVS or wherever is closest to you and get the vaccine. It is your choice.
'...We do that. The government cannot impose very much when you walk out or get in your car every day..."
There are many ways to get out of a comfort zone, but getting in your car and getting shots ranks down there near the bottom. I'm vacc'd, by my choice. If some bozo asks for proof, I'm more than willing to unzip my pants; 'here's your badge'!
You claim to have voted for JJ. I did, living in CA my vote was never anything other than symbolic. Had it been otherwise, it would have gone to Trump.
To those who had the opportunity, did otherwise and are now griping, well, *WE* are getting what *YOU* deserve.
We thank service members for their courage and sacrifice. We don’t elevate them to saints, nor does their service place them beyond criticism for what they do outside the military.
McCain was a liar, a manipulative psychopath, a war monger, and an opportunist. The fact that he served in the military, was wounded, and was tortured doesn’t change any of that.
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Yes standing armies are a danger to liberty but just how long will a nations liberty last without a standing army? Liberty can not exist without a standing army. Choices must be made and it takes men who are willing to do evil things to protect the rest of us from evil
Why do I suspect that 'reason' doesn't really like the troops and wishes hillary hadn't already coopted the term "deplorables"?
Isnt is jeffdeemic now that sarcasmic has joined the clique?
America's military has not won a war -- despite staggering resource advantages provided by the American taxpayer -- for more than 70 years. Instead, we have settled for a series of vague draws against ragtag irregulars across the globe.
Part of the problem is poorly designed mission. Part of the problem is elimination of the draft.
Many people have served in America's military with distinction toward noble end. Many others have served honorably; doing one's duty is generally noble even if a fool's errand arranged by lousy superiors is involved. Some have acted disgracefully, including torturers and other war criminals.
Clingers criticizing modernization of our military -- which currently features far too many racists, misogynists, half-educated xenophobes, disaffected clingers, White nationalists, and Trump-level gullible rubes -- are part of the disgrace.
That drop in confidence in the military in February had to do with bringing wokeness and critical race theory to the military and hiring a sec def who thinks that stuff is more important than the capability of his men.
Or maybe, it was due to the fact that the Jan. 6 insurrectionists were overrepresented by military and veterans.
https://www.businessinsider.com/1-in-5-charged-in-capitol-riot-veterans-active-duty-2021-1
"...Part of the problem is elimination of the draft..."
Sign up, asshole bigot!
I'd get rich filling the grandstands to watch you pathetic existence end in any way possible!
"Many people have served in America’s military with distinction toward noble end. Many others have served honorably; doing one’s duty is generally noble even if a fool’s errand arranged by lousy superiors is involved. Some have acted disgracefully, including torturers and other war criminals."
This part I agree with. America's citizens have always marched where duty calls. The disgrace is some of the superiors they've had to serve: Burnside at Fredericksburg, Custer at Little Big Horn, Wilson in France, LBJ in Nam. Today's Pentagon seems filled with generals who want to project American power too many places it doesn't belong, not to protect America, but to feed their egos, put an extra star or two on their shoulders, and secure that fat fat consulting job after retirement.
"America’s military has not won a war — despite staggering resource advantages provided by the American taxpayer — for more than 70 years."
Yeah but by the end of his second term Obama was this close to a final, decisive victory over the Taliban. Commander in Chief Hillary Clinton would have finished them off for good, but Russian hacking (and GamerGate, and the Comey letter...) prevented her from taking office.
#StillWithHer
Stop projecting onto people you racist, half-educated, basment dwelling.
“…Part of the problem is elimination of the draft…”
Half of the troops serving in Vietnam were draftees, and it certainly didn't go well. I think the main problem was that the military had all these 2-year draftees and 3-year enlistees and felt compelled to design their strategy to use these half-trained short-timers. That gave us an Army that would have easily won WWII, but couldn't defend a village against infiltrators sneaking in at night and murdering any non-Communist leaders. We were trying to win hearts and minds with napalm!
What was needed was hundreds of thousands of highly trained career soldiers - a Special Forces A-team in every village, backed up by the toughest little mobile force we could create. But draftees didn't belong in either group, and draftees were what they had.
And it would have been much worse if they'd actually been aiming to draft a cross-section of America. The only way to do that would have been to draft _all_ able-bodied 19-year old men, but they could not use nearly so many. So we got a draft that was so leaky no child of the important or rich was drafted unless they _chose_ to serve as the start of a career in politics (e.g., Kerry before he got a worse idea), and two friends of mine were classified 4F merely for overweight. (I got lucky in the draft lottery and didn't have to find a way to fail the physical...)
Nixon had a better plan - he phased out the draft and began building a smaller and better Army, but it was too late to correct the mess we'd made of Vietnam.
"...Jan. 6 insurrectionists..."
Breaking news! TDS-addled shit can't spell "protesters".
Idiots sure love proving they don't know what an insurrection is.
I know you're dumber than a sack of shit, but "people charged" is not equal to "capitol protesters". One reason for the overrepresentation among PEOPLE CHARGED in the capitol protest is probably because it's a lot easier to identify active military personnel as opposed to, say, the couple in Alaska whose home the FBI executed a pre-dawn commando raid on in search of Pelosi's laptop despite their never having been inside the capitol.
I'd pay extra for a front row seat!
Bet you sarcasmic can't even mention which war he thinks we would have had a draft for if not for eliminating it.
It is honestly the same ignorant type of comment a freshman high schooler makes.
Should a civil war ever start, I will really enjoy thinning the herd of progs like him.
I thought we were 2-0 vs Saddam Hussein, not 0-2. He and his sons must be yucking it up right now
The problem with the claims he makes is that we can not won an asymmetrical war with an enemy who doesn't even have a uniform. If people have a war metric of winning, they need to allow wars to actually be won. Instead it is demands they stop as soon as they show a single victory in war, nation build, repeat. The US could have won every war they would been in if not for an ever lowering bar of rules of engagement as the left seeks to hamper IS troops and excuse terrorists.
And no I don't support wars, just pointing out the contradiction of the left.
It was a game they weren't playing though. Iraq never attacked or even posed a threat to the United States. Iraq was a rag doll for the US, allies one moment then obliterated the next, all for relatively sick motives.
Iraq was going to be the deepest stain on modern American until Trump came along and rubbed his makeup-plastered face all over the constitution.
How? How dis Trump rub makeup on the Comstitution? Did he weaponize the bureaucratic state, the intel agencies, and the FBI to go after political opponents? Did hs eule by pen amd phone after declaring it illegal to do so? Did he ignore court orders?
Name anytbing that is 1% bad as the actions of Obama Biden Clinton etc that you routinely excuse if not applaud
Now do Libya. Remember how the US heroically let Muammar Gaddafi get fucked up with the ass with a broom stick and murdered in the street after spending the previous decade in full compliance with all US demands while you clapped like a trained seal because a D was in the white house?
As someone who was there when we liberated Kuwait. I can defy say that we were right to kick Iraq out. Tony can’t understand that though. As he is a soulless sociopath.
A draft produced a military featuring a cross-section of America and caused the human costs of military operations to be distributed (somewhat) evenly throughout our society. A draft without exemptions would be even better in both respects.
Asshole - bigot now justifying slavery!
Way to go, slimy pile of septic-tank waste!
Trump, Bush 43, Obama, and Biden evaded the draft. The rich evaded. Hippies evaded.
It never really was a cross section.
'Taxation is theft' misfits and 'a draft is slavery' malcontents are among my favorite culture war casualties.
Carry on, clingers .. . but only so far as your betters permit.
You get to mutter and sputter, and rail and flail, and whine and whimper, and cry and sign about all of this damned progress -- imposed by the liberal-libertarian alliance against the preferences of right-wing bigots and Republican slack-jaws -- all you want . . . but you will comply.
Thank you for your continuing cooperation, clingers. You make this easier for all of us by restricting your resistance to (1) all-talk bluster on conservative blogs and (2) goofy red hats.
No, thank *you* for proving once again what a slimy piece of lefty shit you are!
No one could do it better!
And how Libya has now become the world's premier slave market?
That Obo! Just such the appropriate Peace Prize recipient, so long as we ignore, oh, Stalin!
What was needed was hundreds of thousands of highly trained career soldiers – a Special Forces A-team in every village, backed up by the toughest little mobile force we could create.
It takes 2 to 3 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars per soldier
Try again...
What was needed was hundreds of thousands of highly trained career soldiers – a Special Forces A-team in every village, backed up by the toughest little mobile force we could create.
It takes 2 to 3 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars per soldier to train an effective SF A-team soldier. & for the best of the best, we generally require actual combat experience before placing any soldier on an elite SF team.
Additionally the requirements to pass SF training are very high - which includes physical, intellectual, & psychological. So high that most people in society would not be able to pass.
Therefore, I'm sorry, but while what you're asking for sounds great (I love the idea myself), it's impossible due to lack of qualified candidates and if we waited until we were in war to start training, a lack of time.
But a smaller, more agile and smarter individual soldier is a beautiful dream (one shared by Rumsfeld if you can believe it).