Joe Biden, Border Cop
People on both the left and right assumed Biden would lift Trump’s draconian immigration restrictions. But for some hopeful immigrants, things have actually gotten worse.

"We are not a country that detains migrant children indefinitely or denies them access to soap, toothbrushes, or beds," future president Joe Biden tweeted in September 2019. "We are a country that welcomes those in search of a better life—the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. Trump doesn't get that."
Biden doesn't seem to get it either. "Hundreds of immigrant children and teenagers have been detained at a Border Patrol tent facility in packed conditions, with some sleeping on the floor because there aren't enough mats, according to nonprofit lawyers who conduct oversight of immigrant detention centers," the Associated Press reported on March 12. "Some have to wait five days or more to shower, and there isn't always soap available, just shampoo, according to the lawyers."
Biden did nix former President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" policy at the U.S.-Mexico border, which required that parents who crossed the border illegally be separated from their children without exception. It was a hideous idea that generated considerable bipartisan backlash—so much so that Trump himself backed away from it in the summer of 2018.
But Biden's move was mostly symbolic, since "zero tolerance" had already been unofficially rescinded. Still, it generated significant PR buzz from media outlets, some of which neglected to include that the Biden administration is still separating families at the border. Border agents can now use discretion in deciding which parents get to stay with their children, but that doesn't mean family separations themselves have ended.
Meanwhile, the bedlam at the border is almost entirely self-made. Government policies meant to curb immigration inadvertently create much of the chaos decried in congressional floor speeches and on cable news.
Family separations are a good example. Many families ripped apart under Trump, and likely under Biden, crossed the border trying to claim asylum—something immigrants have a legal right to do. Yet U.S. immigration protocol essentially provides no avenue for them to do so the "right" way, so they cross the border and look for an agent with whom to file a claim. If the government chooses to prosecute that illicit crossing, they cannot stay with their children. That was true under Barack Obama and Donald Trump, and it is still true under Joe Biden.
One of Biden's core campaign promises was that he would terminate Trump's "Remain in Mexico" policy, the framework that forced would-be asylum seekers to await their court dates outside of the U.S. Well, here's his new policy: Instead of allowing families to claim asylum and tossing them out of the country in the meantime, he is tossing them out of the country without a court date in hand. Progress?
That's not the only way the government creates the border chaos it is now trying to solve, says David Bier, an immigration policy analyst at the Cato Institute's Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity.
Take the aforementioned A.P. report—the one that exposes the very conditions Biden denounced before taking the Oval Office. Those facilities are teeming with unaccompanied children not in spite of the law, but because of it.
"If you cross the border with your parents and you're an older child, what ends up happening is that you're immediately expelled back into Mexico," Bier says. "As a consequence of that, we've seen a number of teenagers crossing the border [alone], because if they cross as a family unit then they will be expelled. It's really exacerbated the issues."
Similarly, George W. Bush's administration imposed a rule requiring children to be separated from their family if they arrive at the border with anyone other than their parents. "A grandmother, an uncle, adult sibling: In any of those circumstances, the family will be separated…and the adult family member is then expelled back to Mexico," says Bier. "So now they're no longer in the country at all"—a rule that he says is creating "between a quarter and a half" of the unaccompanied children, who were not actually unaccompanied.
The Associated Press notes that it "interviewed the mother of one 4-year-old girl from Guatemala who crossed the border March 5 with her aunt. Border authorities expelled the aunt and labeled the girl unaccompanied by a parent." The child's parents live in Maryland, according to the A.P., and the child is now alone in a border facility.
Commentators on both ends of the political spectrum—some pro-Biden, some opposed—have been starting from the same fundamentally flawed premise: that the president is doing all he can to liberalize immigration. "Biden Has Few Good Options for the Unaccompanied Children at the Border," reads a headline in The New Yorker. "No country could survive Biden's border policies," asserts Fox News' Tucker Carlson.
Neither claim makes much sense. "We've never had a situation where it's been this closed to asylum seekers than what we see right now," says Bier.
"Even under Trump?" I ask.
"Except for a few months under Trump," he responds, "this is one of the strictest border policies we've ever seen."
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Commence tears with the realization it's never gonna be open borders.
And it shouldn't be as long as there is a welfare state. Reality always trumps idealism.
Reality is transphobic.
...and sexist.
My mother could never bench 250 lbs even if she trained, and I'm probably going to die 5 years younger than my sisters.
I mean, that's your choice.
You could always take control . . .
Almost everyone in the whole fucking world wants to come to the US. A completely open border is a shitty idea. Yet libritards at "reason.com" think is an unfettered right. There are too many people here already at 330 fucking million people. And when the border is opened who do you think is going to come over here? 130+ IQ Japanese executives? Engineers from Sweden? Physicists from Germany? Fuck no. They are going to be uneducated laborers from 3rd world hellholes that will by some degree make this nation a 3rd world hellhole, just like they did to the nation that they left. "Trump’s draconian immigration restrictions?" Trump should have done more - not less. We have shit-tons of uneducated and unemployed laborers already. Why on earth would we want more?
Cause someone put a poem on the Statue of Liberty
Not hellholes, that is shitholes to you.
Indeed, the appeals process can drag out way beyond five years.
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I love seeing open borders morons cry. Their tears are delicious.
It was really the only legitimate beef that they had against Trump that wasn't imaginary, and now that's falling apart on them too.
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More like POTUS Biden is the border version of a Wal-mart greeter.
^THIS..
>>People on both the left and right assumed Biden would lift Trump’s draconian immigration restrictions.
dude what? your expectations and reality are galaxies apart
The ignorance of Reason is that Biden did sign 3 EOs to do so.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/biden-immigration-executive-orders/index.html
Well, how else was he going to get to use 'draconian' in a sentence.
Yep. At "reason.com" we shouldn't have a say on who enters "our" country. That's just draconian!
"Some have to wait five days or more to shower, and there isn't always soap available, just shampoo, according to the lawyers."
If only shampoo could be used on skin...
Beat me to it, U.
And how long did they wait for a shower back in the homeland? Until the next rainstorm?
Please tell me there was as least body sprays or a rain head shower.
"Except for a few months under Trump," he responds, "this is one of the strictest border policies we've ever seen."
But Wingnut.com says Biden is for open borders.
Or his open words do. Such as his first debate statement linked with video below you fucking idiot.
You biden cultists are some weird pedophiles.
You're lying again. Biden is not for open borders.
And I am no cultist. I have said Biden is in over his head. It is you Trump cultists who can't allow a single negative remark about your dear leader.
You have done nothing but blame Trump for anything happening under Biden, even when it is Biden's EOs and publicly televised words causing the issue, such as with the border.
Finally the half dead old bag did something right.
Your version of liberty isn't based in reality.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cbs-reports-there-are-now-13000-kids-cages-border
Biden: "I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediate surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum they deserve to be heard, that's who we are, we are nation that says if you want to flee and you are fleeing oppression you should come."
By the way... here is what Biden really said and what caused the rush to the birder that is now a crisis.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1372145222872928260
illegal immigrants should “immediately surge to the border”
So no, they aren't the same. One is reacting due to his amnesty dreams being smashed by the crisis his words have caused. The other offered more legal migration after fixing illegal immigration, like the 86 agreement.
Stop being dishonest Reason.
The pants-shitting by conservatives over this border policy may cause another pandemic.
Lol. Amazing how you choose to remain ignorant despite 2 links above you.
And more for you.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/bidens-open-borders-immigration-policy-why
A fucking bullshit "opinion" by a wingnut rag is all you have.
This is similar to the wingnut lie that Obama went on an "apology tour" that was repeated over and over again.
On that trip to the Middle East Obama didn't apologize to anyone for anything.
All he said was that the US "acted arrogantly" - which is exactly what we did when Bush invaded Iraq to "transform the Middle East".
Fucking prickish arrogance that you conservatives defended for years.
You have to be a troll account. No one can be this ignorant.
You can't dispute any of those facts I wrote.
What facts? you minimizing an argument to such specific parameters as to make it a non real argument? You went full Jeff.
I thought you weren't a cultist? Now you're an Obama cultist too. Weird.
Biden did nix former President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" policy at the U.S.-Mexico border, which required that parents who crossed the border illegally be separated from their children.
This is a lie. There was nothing in the policy which specifically said children were to be 'separated from their parents'. it is bog-standard process, when arresting someone to separate the children from the adult that has them in tow. And that distinction is important. If you're crossing the border sans documentation, the 42 year old guy with the 9 year old girl in tow is just that. There is no parent/guardian/child relationship until that can be established.
This has been testified to, under oath by border agents.
What has happened though is the Biden administration signaled to the world that the borders would be open, and anyone arriving would receive free healthcare, regardless of citizenship status. The fact that the border facilities are overwhelmed are due directly to that signal.
"People on both the left and right assumed Biden would lift Trump’s draconian immigration restrictions."
Those people were historically illiterate. Immigration restrictions began as and remain old union lackey Democrat policy. Biden is a quintessential old union lackey Democrat. Too many let Trump's "mean tweets" hide from them that every policy idea of his own, versus generic Republican policy ideas that generic Republicans sneaked past Trump during his many hours of "Executive Time" TV binging, were just the worst of recycled old Democrat garbage.
I love how open border crowds love open borders in theory and fantasy world, but in reality they are not remotely feasible or smart.
O/T - Rand Paul smacks down Fauci in hearings.
Paul - Facts facts facts this study that study...
Fauci - Well I disagree.
And that little weasel Fauci gets paid 400+Gs per year? AYFKM?!
Thanks for your service Tony, but it is time to go serve on some corporate boards elsewhere, outside of government.
Guarantee you that when he leaves the government, he's either taking Dr. Oz's time slot, or hawking diet supplements on late-night TV.
In that vein, this is Sky News, showing a video of Putin the other day, giving a speech commemorating their anniversary of stealing Crimea. https://news.sky.com/video/vladimir-putin-takes-centre-stage-in-moscow-stadium-to-promote-holiday-for-crimea-anniversary-12250040
(And we haven't even gotten into Putin allegedly wanting to have a live debate with Biden over Putin being called a killer by Biden. Just the idea is hilarious.)
Anyway, note what's missing from Putin and most of the crowd.
I've been saying for a couple of months now that Fauci will use speculation about possible variants to move the goalposts to the point that we cannot end social distancing (the true threat to our way of life) until we have had absolutely zero infections globally for 90 consecutive days, a standard that will in every likelihood never be satisfied. This interview makes Fauci's intent quite clear. As I've also been saying for months, those Sunday morning talk show gigs are not going to book themselves.
It's time for immigrants from other countries, who've lived here for decades if not centuries in some cases, to return to their ancestral homelands and share the blessings of peace and prosperity they learned here. That way their peoples don't need to flee here.
And if they learned nothing then obviously we have to shut the borders before we corrupt any more innocent souls.
Many families ripped apart under Trump, and likely under Biden, crossed the border trying to claim asylum. They have a legal right to do that. Yet U.S. immigration protocol essentially provides no avenue for them to do so the "right" way, so they cross the border and look for an agent with whom to file a claim. If the government chooses to prosecute that illicit crossing, they cannot stay with their children.
"If the government chooses to prosecute that illicit crossing" - what the fuck are you talking about? You just got done saying they have a legal right to cross, how can it be illicit? Oh, because there's this "immigration protocol"? What is an "immigration protocol"? Is that like a law or something? I think it must be if you can be fucking arrested for violating it, I think it's a little more than a rule like not wearing white after Labor Day. It's the law.
Not exactly. They don't have the legal right to lie about their reasons for asylum. And few, if any, of these migrants are actually fleeing political persecution. Instead, they are fleeing poverty.
They can do so the right way - by applying at the border entry stations. But they are impatient, and don't want to wait. Still others claim asylum only after they are caught to get a "do over" and delay the deportation process.
Google dumbass, google.
https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-in-the-united-states
Republicans used to have a sweet deal. Impossible immigration laws meant cheap labor for their friends, but no voting rights for said exploited laborers. Bonus: all the xenophobia their idiot base could swallow.
Now their base is openly genocidal, and whole states have been drained of their cheap brown labor.
Culture always beats economics. And by culture I mean white people wanting to commit genocide against brown people. Just as they say every time they open their mouths and speak on the subject.
If the immigration laws were impossible then how did the cheap labor get here?
"And by culture I mean white people wanting to commit genocide against brown people"
I have got to stop reading your posts. I mean between the gigantic eye rolls that cause migraines and the fact I can fell myself getting dumber with every sentence, it's just not healthy anymore.
Funny that you think it is Republicans who want illegal immigration and exploitable labor when it is Democrats like Obama and Biden who openly call for illegal immigrants to come and forbid their arrest, while simultaneously opposing the enforcement of employment laws by local officials.
Meanwhile, Republicans pushed for immigration reforms that allowed for guest workers... And democrats whipped their caucus hard to prevent support from their side.
Now the absence of open borders = genocide? Keep beclowning yourself; never change.
I know right?! I mean, I constantly complain about my neighbor's draconian policy about leaving their doors and windows locked.
Like, how can you do that to people!11!
FFS, can we debate this rationally rather than pushing really, really, really, stupid narratives?
Otherwise, what the fuck good are you? Why would I want to stay in a nation with people like this?
And then Biden turned around and did exactly what Trump did. Exactly the same thing.
But I guess Doublespeak demands we ignore that.
Its funny how Democratic Presidents get elected by slamming Republican President's policies - and then immediately continue and expand the policies of those Republicans once they take office.
Nothing more racist than locking your medicine cabinet or not leaving your keys in the car.
"exactly the same thing".
Uh, no.
Trump told would be illegals to stay away. Biden invited them to come, even before he was inaugurated. One might suspect that Biden (and Obama) actually wanted millions of illegals with kids held in detention cages. To what end?, one might ask. To what end?
Binion, here you're either being disingenuous or you're kinda dumb.
Its long-standing policy that those seeking asylum are supposed to ask for asylum in the first non-dangerous nation they reach - in this case Mexico (or even nations further south). And by 'non-dangerous' they mean 'where the people threatening your life are not at'.
So if you're running from El Salvadorian death squads, you'll be safe in Mexico.
THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO SEEK ASYLUM.
You can make an argument that this way is not good - but these people are the ones violating established procedure in order to try for a spot in the US instead of accepting a spot in Mexico.
So, in other words, its not 'Trump's policy' - since its a policy started as far back as Bush, continued by OBAMA and Trump, and now, Biden.
So this mother was in danger in Guatemala - danger that couldn't be avoided in Belize, Honduras, or *anywhere* in Mexico?
Or did you not ask that question - the question being 'on what basis should we grant you asylum and why could you not have sought asylum in any of the closer countries?'
All this effort to get Trump out of office - and you get Trump's policies anyway.
I would have thought you guys would have remembered Obama. Like Biden, Obama campaigned on 'not being the last President'. Like Obama, Biden turned into the last President.
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
The words “immigration”, “tolerance” and “assimilation” are being used to PROMOTE a program of genocide against White children.
According to International Law, open borders, FORCED integration, and assimilation is GENOCIDE.
Except they don’t call it GENOCIDE when it’s done to White children.
Then they call it “multiculturalism”
STOP WHITE GENOCIDE!
Multiculturalism means chasing down the last White person.
Fuck off, chemjeff. Your astroturfing isn't fooling anyone.
Funny; Last I heard Biden's end-goal was to give USA citizenship to illegal invaders in the sum of entire states population within his first 4-years.
Here's a thought experiment - let's say every two years, 500 people wanted to enter a Mcdonlads building at all once. What should be done? Ponder how Mcondands can accommodate such a move? Criticize them for lacking the foresight to prepare the proper infrastructure and resources? Say "come on, be human and let them in"?
No country is logistically capable of handling 20-40 thousand "asylum applicants" who crowd their borders every year. None. And even if we entered Chemjeff's fantasy world and let in an unchecked human wave enter the nation and allow them find jobs, that would still create a humanitarian crisis. Because there's no way these people will be able to find affordable housing or even long term jobs in the post covid world where the economy is becoming contactless.
Sigh, the willful and obtuse blindness of it all. There aren't 40 thousand North Koreans trying to ram through the DMZ because Kim would vaporize every single one of them upon capture. They live in fascist state and Christians are under persecution there. They WOULD be refugees, the few who make it. 99% of people being cramped in our facilities are not refugees.
We're being taken for ride by people who want to game our system. If you want to trade reality for morality, then your position is fundamentally not rooted in reason.
Don't worry... They have this handled... With compassion. They have an amnesty bill in the works. Several, actually.
Remember when the deal was "just this one last amnesty, then we will enforce our immigration laws and prevent employers from exploiting illegal immigrant labor?"
Is anyone smart enough to ask why the Democrats keep insisting on more *illegal* immigration? I mean, they could just reform immigration law to allow more *legal* immigration. So why does Biden call for illegal immigrants to come to America? And why does the press sing from the same hymnal in union?
Even if you are an actual "open borders liberal-tarian", shouldn't you oppose this push for illegal immigration? Shouldn't reforming the quota system be the focus, instead of increasing the flow of illegal immigration and all of the problems that come with millions of people working on fraudulent documents?
Or are we really in favor of creating an underclass of undocumented workers who can be exploited?
baptists and bootleggers
Of course Biden didn’t change any of that. Just like he won’t pull back on any of the wars or drone bombings of the previous couple of administrations. Just like Obama didn’t change any of the Patriot Act domestic spying on Americans after complaining about Bush doing that.
I love to point such facts out to two-parties-only believers. It’s all a sham. There’s really just the one party: the Authoritarian Spendthrift Party. The R vs D voting is a smokescreen.
"Biden did nix former President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" policy at the U.S.-Mexico border, which required that parents who crossed the border illegally be separated from their children."
Because putting children in a general population of illegal immigrants would have been so much better?
What 'draconian regulations'? The Trump administration required a few very reasonable things. If someone was requesting "asylum" they had to do it from the first safe place from which they could make the request. They were NOT allowed to traverse two or three safe nations and cross the border into the US before making their request. Asylum seekers had to provide proof of a legitimate need for asylum. Under international rules asylum is reserved for those who are being singled out for violence or discrimination due to race, religion, gender or sexual preference. Generalized high crime and violence does not count. Being married to a violent jerk does not count. Being poor and downtrodden does not count. The Trump administration required that because allowing potential asylees into the US subjected them to the protections of US law and prohibited them from being held in custody until their asylum claims could be evaluated, such individuals would remain in Mexico or Canada until approved for asylum rather than released into the US where they would disappear and never be found if (as in the vast majority of cases) their application were denied. Potential asylees were also required to undergo medical screenings for Tuberculosis, Hepatitis, HIV/AIDS, Covid 19, and other communicable diseases. Those were not draconian regulations. They were common sense application of international standards and necessary for the security of the nation.
A 'hopeful immigrant" is someone that applies to enter the US legally. Someone that hopes to jump the line and sneak in is an "ILLEGAL" that committed a crime.
Dear American Homeless People;
Just take a step across the border and re-enter, you'll be entitled to a free hotel room.
Biden is brilliant!! Not only do the border crossers get a free hotel, but look how that helps the hotel industry get back on its feet after COVID!! Not only that, but if he can ship some of them to other States via Airlines, he is helping the U.S. Carriers to get some extra income as well.
Come on, all you fuddy duddy conservatives. Get with the program.
First, you degenerate, I have posted here longer than anyone I can name except maybe sarcasmic. I am a classic liberal and I hate progressivism and conservatism.
For years I have advocated GRIDLOCK because neither party can be trusted.
And Biden is in over his head right now. Present tense. I don't have a team to betray (unlike yourself) so I can say whatever I want.
He hasn't said "I want open borders".
His asylum comments are routine for a POTUS.
Let me ask you this: Was it a mistake for POTUS Biden to change immigration policy so abruptly?
First, you degenerate, you were kicked off the site for what you post.
Not really. As the article says the policy change was relatively minor.
Which is proven incorrect by the actual surge that is happening dummy.,
You went full Jeff. LOL.
He didn't exactly say word for word what I claim others say he says!!!
Sure, and the people who want to abolish ICE aren't for de facto open borders either, right? You could also use a lesson on revealed preferences.
Liar.
So what was this "signal" he gave to immigrants?
A wink? A hand gesture?
Do tell.
these three facts:
This is similar to the wingnut lie that Obama went on an “apology tour” that was repeated over and over again.
On that trip to the Middle East Obama didn’t apologize to anyone for anything.
All he said was that the US “acted arrogantly” – which is exactly what we did when Bush invaded Iraq to “transform the Middle East”.
why are you apologizing for democrats and leftists bad behavior? is that part of your plea bargain to stay out of prison for molesting kids?
So, rather than understanding figures of speech, you apply absolute literalism to critiques? I agree that Obama didn't go on an official apology tour whereby he formally apologized. But no one is actually accusing him of such specificity. What is being referred to as an apology tour is going around to foreign countries and telling them that America has been and is bad and that we need to fix it.
Thus, he didn't use the specific language of "I apologize," but that's the actual takeaway of what he was doing.
With that, I assume that you also defended Trump when it came to people being absolutely literal with all of his statements? Just curious how far you extend the literal language defense.
So opinion, exact reduction is to deny an opinion, and an opinion. He asked for which facts pedo.
No faggot Kiddie Raper, we all saw the child porn links you posted here. Not only should you not be here, you should also be dead. Just like every other pedophile. It will be a great day when one of your victims, or their families finally execute you.
LOL! So true.
You're a lying scumbag.
WTF are you talking about?
All I said was that sarcasmic has posted here a long time. I go back to 2007.
He's not the pedo here.
What lie have I told? Your antics are witnessed by many and well documented.
I think it was the “ok” signal.
He listens to both kinds of music, country and western.