Civil Asset Forfeiture

Justin Amash Introduces Bill To End Civil Asset Forfeiture Nationwide

The practice is plainly unconstitutional.

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Rep. Justin Amash (L–Mich.) on Thursday introduced a bill to end civil asset forfeiture, which allows the government to take property from someone without ever charging them with a crime.

Law enforcement on the local, state, and federal levels can seize assets if they were thought to be used in connection with illegal activity. That's often based solely on suspicion, though. Many people never receive their items back, even if they were acquitted or never indicted in the first place. Since 2000, state and local governments have robbed people of more than $68 billion.

Police often deposit those sums into slush funds for their departments.

What's more, the property seized doesn't necessarily have to have been used by the alleged criminal in question. Such was the case with Kevin McBride, who had his Jeep taken by police in Tucson, Arizona, after his girlfriend allegedly used it to sell $25 worth of weed to an undercover cop.

Amash's bill would eliminate the practice as we know it nationwide. "Civil asset forfeiture is a due process violation, and it always has been," said Amash in a statement. "Its history is riddled with injustices not because it's a valid practice that gets misused, but because its central premise—denying people their procedural rights—is inherently flawed. By ending it, my bill helps fulfill Congress's obligation to stop rights violations at both the state and federal level, and it ends a practice that contributes to the frayed relationship between law enforcement and the public."

It seems to be commonsense that civil asset forfeiture plainly violates our constitutional rights, particularly as laid out under the Fourth and 14th Amendments. On the federal level, Amash's bill ends the practice outright. "No person shall be required, under the laws of the United States, to forfeit to the United States any property, real or personal, pursuant to a civil forfeiture proceeding, including a nonjudicial civil forfeiture proceeding," the bill reads. Such a change would ensure, for instance, that the Drug Enforcement Administration is no longer allowed to seize money at airports, as has been their practice when travelers carry large sums. The agency stole $43,000 from a woman in Wilmington, North Carolina, and $82,373 from an elderly man in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, simply because they dared to fly with it. Neither was ever charged with involvement in the drug trade.

The legislation also quashes the practice at the state level by prohibiting governments from taking assets unless they secure a conviction against the alleged offender or determine via a civil proceeding that the property owner committed the offense begetting forfeiture.

The libertarian congressman, who is retiring after this session, has long been a proponent of criminal justice reform. Earlier this year, he introduced the first bill to abolish qualified immunity, the legal doctrine that makes it difficult to hold public officials accountable for violating your civil rights.

"The Constitution authorizes and obligates each branch of the Federal Government to protect individual rights," the bill reads. "The long-term failure of Congress, presidents, and the judiciary to recognize the illegitimacy of the government's civil forfeiture practices does not divest them of the authority to do so. The government cannot lawfully jettison the rights of the accused for the sake of convenience and profit."

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      1. “Rich Uncle Charles won’t be pleased.”

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        1. Admit it. The real reason you despise Amash is because he didn’t kiss the orange man’s fat ass, you obsequious Trumper piece of shit.

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        2. How’s it like living in a blue state with two Dem senators, cunt? Was supporting Trump worth all that? Lol.

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            1. And yet it’s his only friend.

        3. Trump is why you have two Democrat senators.

          1. Damn, you’re a stupid faggot.

            1. You know Vince is exactly right! You have no rebuttal and you know it.

      2. Kuckland congratulates Reason for doing something libertarian, so of course White Knight Chipper has to bitch and whine about it.

        1. When does Reason not do something libertarian?

          1. Did the jacket drink some everclear?

            1. “Not kissing Trump’s ass” does not = not libertarian.

              1. You’re the one bringing up Trump constantly. You’re just mad that he won’t fuck your asshole, eh faggot?

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  2. I wish him all the best in his efforts. I don’t trust him anymore, but I hope he’s successful.

    1. That isn’t get passed and signed in a week.

    2. think the same maybe he will turn a corner and actually become a libertarian

      1. It’s funny how “libertarian” Trumptards hate Amash even though he supports libertarian ideas like ending civil asset forfeiture and ending qualified immunity, yet they LOVE Trump who supports CAF and QI. LMAO.

        1. You’re like the diarrhea of all the angry lefties on the site. You know you can talk to someone who will help you deal with this anger, or prescribe something.

          1. Not as angry as all you hicks crying about “election fraud.” Lol. Cunt.

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    3. He has 1 month until he is out. He had 8 years prior to try. This is a face saving move.

      1. Trump has one month until he’s out and never said one God damn thing about this issue.

        1. Maybe he would have had more time to do this if faggots like you and your friends didn’t waste four years on Russia fever dreams and constant obstruction.

          You and your kind have an ocean of blood on your hands. You can’t be redeemed. So you should commit suicide. Your progressive friends should all do the same.

    4. He has 1 month until he is out. He had 8 years prior to try. This is a face saving move.

      1. I like how you set the bar incredibly low for Trump yet incredibly high for Amash. Asshole.

        Amash has proposed MANY libertarian pieces of legislation during his tenure, including ending qualified immunity. Maybe if other Republicans, including Trump, weren’t such un-libertarian cunts, he would have gotten some of those bills passed. The GOP, not the Dems, are the reason why QI still exists.

        1. Forgive Jesse- he still wakes up gargling Trump’s balls every morning.

    5. I commend you for this comment.

      It’s just weird that on a thread where pretty much everyone here probably supports the actual proposal, we get mostly negativity and anger.

      Can’t we all just say where we stand on this? And can we please praise the politicians who support it and criticize those who oppose it?

      If Trump supports it, I’d be more than thrilled to praise him for that. If he opposes it can I expect those who (perhaps justifiably) prefer him over Biden to still criticize him for being wrong on the issue?

      For all I know, Trump has made his position clear already. I’m really hoping he’s on the right side of this. If he is, I have no doubt his supporters on this site will cheer him for it. But if Trump is on the wrong side of it… well, I’ll try to give you guys the benefit of the doubt and not assume you’ll defend him.

      1. “Roman moroni?” Are you LDS?

        If you aren’t then what led you to use a name like Moroni?

        1. It’s from the movie Johnny Dangerously. It came out in the 80s, so that’s before the world began, as far as you know.

  3. But if you think about it, you don’t have standing to sue before your assets are forfeited because you haven’t yet suffered any harm, and you don’t have standing after your assets are forfeited because it’s too late after the assets are already forfeited. So does asset forfeiture even harm anyone?

    1. You didn’t steal that!

      1. “Steal what?”
        -the New Normal US court system

    2. The money is the guilty party. No harm done to an actual human being.

  4. Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984. Expanded the use into the war on drugs. Biden was a co-sponsor.

    Biden has been a co-sponsor of the war on drugs.

    Funny how progressives voted for that guy.

    1. Yep, Biden has a terrible legacy. At least he hasn’t completely fucked up a pandemic response like the blob of incompetence currently residing in the palace. Yet.

        1. Our latest data dashboard is hilarious.

          Usage is still flat, but now we’re way over our “target” of 80% capacity because………we’ve eliminated so many beds.

          https://coronavirus.wa.gov/what-you-need-know/covid-19-risk-assessment-dashboard

          We started the goalposts at “80% of licensed beds”, of which we had 14,500 or so.

          Then we moved the goalposts to “80% of staffed adult acute care beds”, which brought us down to 9,500 beds.

          Since then (3 weeks ago), we’ve removed 750 of THOSE beds.

          Real quality leadership we have.

      1. 9 months to a vaccine is a terrible fuck up. Federalism, always a terrible fuck up.

        Youre not a libertarian, you’re a globalist. Why you again show you want power removed from an individual. Support lockdowns too dontya? It is the only thing trump didn’t do. So fuck off.

        1. Lockdowns would have meant fewer deaths, so….

          Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine, dumb shit.

          1. Lockdowns increase deaths from suicide, domestic abuse, and other, untreated diseases, like undiscovered cancers.
            During the lockdown here in Florida we canceled all routine cancer screening by colonoscopy and mammal grams.
            We also canceled routine cardiac stress testing.
            So deaths from advanced cancer and heart disease as well as suicide and domestic abuse all up.
            End it has not been shown that lockdowns decrease numbers of deaths from coronavirus.
            Lockdowns may slow down the rate of people catching it and dying from corona, but they were never intended to lower the overall number of deaths.

        2. >> 9 months to a vaccine is a terrible fuck up.

          We don’t know the long term effects of the vaccine. We are taking a risk by administering it to all of our medical personnel at once. This isn’t the same kind of vaccine we are used to talking about, as this one uses mRNA and proprietary particles to transport it.

          So while waiting 9 months is terrible, there are also reasons why we should spend even more months testing. These decisions are morally complex.

        3. Yeah, I’m sure Trump had a lot to do with that. Can you see me rolling my eyes?

          Fuck off- your orange idiot is a colossal fuck up, kind of like I imagine you to be. Fucker isn’t responsible for all 300k+ deaths from corona but he’s certainly responsible for quite a fair bit.

          Had he not been a moron maybe we’d be out of the woods and the economy would be fine and he would’ve been reelected. But instead we’re hoping for a vaccine and new admin to restore some fucking sanity.

          1. ” Can you see me rolling my eyes?”

            Yeah, right to the back of your head as you are overwhelmed by the truth of the intellectually honest here.

        4. Libertarians ARE globalists. We believe in free trade with everybody, freedom to travel everywhere, freedom to move capital everywhere, not sending troops to stomp on other people who aren’t invading us, not putting up random tariffs just because Fearless Leader wants to bully somebody so he can show how tough he is (or how little he understands modern business relationships.)

          1. Libertarians are not globalists.

            1. I guess it depends on what you mean by “globalists.”

              Libertarians would love for the entire world to be libertarian, thus rendering individual governments unimportant.

              We’d love international free trade, and international liberty for all individuals, regardless of the luck of geographic birth.

              But we also know that this will not happen in any of our lifetimes so if we must concentrate on the U.S. becoming more libertarian, that will be our focus.

              And it’s true that the evil tendencies towards statism in most of the world does necessitate a border, and an America that does not follow in lock step with oppressive international laws.

              If you’re referring to the leftist version of globalism, where all countries must adhere to very unlibertarian laws… then no, libertarians obviously do not want that.

              Better to have an exceptional America that (hopefully) moves towards more liberty than globalism for the sake of globalism.

              But that said, we are still for free trade among nations wherever possible.

            2. unwitting suicidal libertarians are unapologetically globalist.

              Let’s see how easy it is to keep any vestiges of libertarian policy as more and more socialists flock to our country looking for new socialists to help them. Pretty much the right to smoke weed is all you’ll get, if that…

      2. and yet 2 vaccines are ready to roll out in under a year, when people said it would take 4 years to forever

        1. What did Trump have to do with that?

          1. He did throw tax money at drug companies to incentivize rapid research and development. Whether this was effective or moral, I don’t know, probably not I would guess.

          2. He made the FDA and CDC suspend their usual bureaucratic foot-dragging.

            -jcr

          3. “What did Trump have to do with that?”

            A question like that betrays your intellectual dishonesty and/or outright and inexcusable ignorance. FO

    2. Yes Biden has a crappy record on crime. He can change though.

      Trump suggested executing drug dealers while he was president.

      I’ll take the chance of Biden realizing he was wrong over Trump being incapable of admitting he’s wrong.

      1. “Trump suggested executing drug dealers while he was president.”

        Also talked about legalizing drugs in the 90’s.

        1. Trump’s had four years to take marijuana off Schedule 1, which he could do by executive order. Didn’t do it, much less legalizing (at the Federal level, leaving decisions up to states) more controversial drugs.
          But Trump has been going on an execution spree lately, of Federal prisoners.

    3. Biden Is bad, but he still looks good compared to Donnie the Lardass. That’s how bad YOUR candidate was. Next time don’t nominate an embarrassing piece of shit like Trump, okay.

      1. is

        I hate how you can’t edit posts in here.

      2. One of these candidates is on a team seeking to destroy the first and second amendments of our constitution.

        1. Trump opposes Twitter’s first amendment right to flag his tweets.

          1. “Trump opposes Twitter’s first amendment right under brown shirt authoritarianism to flag his tweets.” FTFY

    4. Back then, Biden’s party wasn’t as batshit crazy.
      Also, it was widely supported by the minority communities, who suffered most from lenience on criminals.
      Too bad those communities aren’t raising a ruckus over rolling back the CCCA of 1984. They’re the ones who will bear the brunt.

    5. And Reason libertarians.

  5. Amash leaves having not accomplished one single libertarian goal.

    1. He has started meaningful conversations, so he’s done something you’ve never done.

      1. Lol. No he hasn’t shit for brains.

        1. And what has Trump done?

          Crickets chirping.

          Maybe it would have helped had Trump not threatened to veto ending qualified immunity.

          1. Libertarian goals accomplished by Trump?

            Tax cuts. Reduced regulation. Removed the Individual Mandate Penalty.

            He did and, more importantly, *continued* plently of terrible activities to make up for that though.

            1. Yeah, those tax cuts are marred by all the spending increases, though. The least we can do as a big government society is pay for our government largesse ourselves rather than passing those debts down to our children and grandchildren.

              One you forgot is that he didn’t start any new wars, didn’t join any new wars and drew down troops levels in several areas. He continued America’s love of drone bombings, but all in all he was the most peaceful president since at least Ford.

              Also, he constantly trolled Democrats, Republicans, the political establishment, the intelligence community and the large media outlets. That’s pretty libertarian.

              1. If only Trump had left the Middle East instead of just not starting new wars. He also bombed Syria.

              2. “Yeah, those tax cuts are marred by all the spending increases, though.”

                Yeah, and he did it all by himself, you DF.

            2. Tax cuts with increased spending are not a libertarian goal.

              1. As opposed to increased spending with no change in taxation they are.

                We all understand that reducing spending would be the best outcome, but no one with a snowball’s chance in hell of getting elected wants to do that. So I can either have crippling national debt with high taxes or crippling national debt with low taxes. I’ll take the latter.

            3. Even W. Bush “reduced regulation.” Big deal.

        2. Trump had four years to come up with a healthcare plan yet didn’t. Lol.

          1. Health care should not be a government function, so this is a plus for Trump.

            1. Even those against government in healthcare support some kind of legislation that helps get government out of healthcare as opposed to leaving the status quo.

          2. “Trump had four years to come up with a healthcare plan yet didn’t. Lol.”

            And the 535 member of congress that created it did what exactly. Your sauce is weak. GTFO

            1. Trump campaigned on ending the ACA. He should have come up with an alternative.

    2. If he’s done absolutely nothing, then I’d say he’s done much better than any other politician.

      1. Nice. If I was to run for office it would be on a platform of obstruction.

        1. Yet you hate the president who ran on that platform. Weird.

          1. Trump actually did things that harmed America, like his trade war that bankrupted farmers. The worst you can say about Amash is that none of his GREAT ideas came to fruition, but at least he did no harm.

            1. Also he’s sooo dreamy.

    3. It’s kind of hard when hardly anybody else in Congress supports libertarian values, shithead.

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  9. Good for him. I hope it succeeds.

  10. So what? He can’t get anything done because he has no one on his side. He is a living negative example of what happens when you win an election without knowing how to be a politician.

  11. Trumpies hate Justin Amash.

    1. Or people realize how fake amash has been in his congressional career having done nothing.

      Why is this bill coming at the end of his tenure? He had 8 years.

      1. “having done nothing”

        He lied about the Mueller report, which for Jeff is the important part.

        1. No he actually read the Mueller report and isn’t afraid of Trump like most spineless Republicans.

          1. Sounds like Mormon talk to me.

        2. No. He told the truth about it, TrumpMORON.

      2. Fake?

        Dude, you’re such a fascist. You hate Amash but praise Trump. Why are you even here? Nothing about you screams libertarian. Just fuck off and save some bytes. Your garbage is not a good use of them.

      3. But this is a good proposal, right?

        You don’t have to love him if he did things to annoy you. I try not to romanticize any of these guys personally.

        He’s a bad politician. If anything, that is probably a good sign about him overall. But I honestly don’t care if I’d want to have a beer with him or trust him with my sister.

        The proposal itself is good. So we should praise those who support it and criticize those who oppose it.

        You’re with me on this, right?

        1. Since you mentioned have a beer with him that’s evidence you aren’t Mormon. However a very small part of Mormons drink and mormons have no problem lying, cheating, and stealing. You can never be too careful.

          Why is your name roman moron?

  12. Who? Should have supported the man…its like a bully versus the mob that wants to kill you if the bully isn’t there. Amash forgot the straw that stirs the drink

    1. Remember when during the impeachment all the leftistarians around here were all “but it’s muh FBI’s/DOJ’s role to investigate corruption, not the president’s!”

      Funny stuff.

      1. He is right more often than anyone else in the legislature.

        I’d probably rather have Amish writing every law and removing the laws he doesn’t like. The country would be better off. And I think you probably agree with me about that… although maybe you’re more of a hard core Republican than a libertarian. I’m not sure.

        But I’m guessing you at least agree with Amish on this proposal, regardless of his shortcomings as a politician.

        Do you agree that we should praise the politicians who support him on this and criticize those who oppose it? Regardless of how much we like or dislike those politicians on other issues?

        1. Roman moroni seems like a genuine libertarian and not the Trump loving psuedo-libertarians that infest the comments. Mormons will claim to be libertarian, but they’re big govt social conservatives. There’s no such thing as a Mormon libertarian. Mormons prefer theocracies.

          1. I’ve read compelling arguments that we should kill all Mormons. Janet Reno was on the right track but never finished the job. I’m thinking forced sterilization might be the better strategy at this point. Progressives are back in power and with their enthusiasm for eugenics we may finally finish the task.

  13. You can’t expect a congress full of assholes to stop being assholes.

    1. “A bill introduced by U.S. Rep. Doug Collins, R-Gainesville, that aims to prevent abuse of civil asset forfeiture policies has been signed by President Donald Trump.”

      That’s impossible. On an issue as important to libertarians as that, I’m sure Reason would’ve had all sorts of celebratory articles…
      Right?… right?…

      1. Chipper and sarcasmic will definitely ignore this tidbit.

        1. How about Trump flat out refusing to sign any bill that ends qualified immunity? Lol.

          1. Biden won’t sign it either, and Harris will continue pretending to be “tough on crime” by ignoring crimes committed by police, prosecutors, and prominent Democrats.

          2. Look, I’m no fan of either Trump or Biden. But we should 100% praise Trump for being on the right side of a libertarian issue and criticize Biden for being on the wrong side.

            Don’t abandon your principles just to argue with people you don’t like. If you do that, you’re no better than Trump supporters who refuse to back Amish on a good proposal just because they are angry that he wasn’t loyal to their guy,

            How can we criticize Trump and the troll mentality of choosing tribal sides over correct principles if we do the same?

            Biden is no libertarian and he deserves not a speck of loyalty on any issue where he is dead wrong. Which is most issues.

            If you think Biden is better for the country than Trump, that’s a fair enough position, especially given how much anger and violence would probably be unleashed if Trump was re-elected by those who hate him.

            But let’s not pretend that Biden is anything but a more traditional enemy of libertarianism than we’ve been used to recently.

      2. That bill was in 2019 (and co-sponsored by U.S. Rep. John Lewis, a Democrat from Atlanta.) Narrow, just applies to IRS, but positive, and I must have missed it.

        Amash’s bill is far more general, though as others have pointed out, is just a lame-duck publicity stunt, won’t get passed by the House before the term ends, much less also the Senate, much less signed by Trump. (That’s true of almost all other bills not related to the COVID economic stimulus.) Still a good bill.

    2. Amash’s bill is far superior, and Trump signed that bill because one of his haners told him to. Trump is too stupid to have actual opinions on issues like these.

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  15. Here come all the “libertarians” that hate Amash and LOVE Trump. I’ve seen so many of the inbred hicks on here claim Trump is more libertarian than Amash.
    Basically any regulations or tax cuts Trump supports Amash also supports.
    He’s also anti-death penalty, pro ending the war on drugs, and anti-Trump.

    I disagree with most of his positions, but I respect conservatives who are actually conservative.
    Most “conservatives” in congress are only conservative when it suits them.

  16. How about a bill to track down the thieves and charge and try and imprison them?

  17. Since the cops and the courts already ignore the plain language of the 5th amendment, why would anyone expect them to obey a mere act of congress?

    Justin’s heart is in the right place on this, but this bill has no teeth.

    -jcr

  18. Another pointless gesture by Justin Amash.

    1. It’s not his fault there aren’t enough other like minded people in Congress, dumb fuck.

      1. But according to you its Trump’s fault. Idiot.

        1. When did Trump veto a budget in protest of government spending?

      2. Yes, in fact, it is his fault: it’s his job as a representative to convince other representatives of the rightness of his cause before submitting bills.

  19. I doubt if this will go anywhere, but it should.

  20. Proposing libertarian legislation is nice, but what has he done to own the libs lately?

  21. There ought to be shouldn’t be a need for a law. The 4A should be enough.

  22. Ideas versus people. The bill is a good idea. Doesn’t matter dick to me who introduced. Amash doesn’t make the bill good or bad; it’s what’s actually in the bill that does that. Civil forfeiture incentivizes bad behavior, and the last thing the police state needs is more incentives to do bad shit.

    1. Doesn’t matter dick to me who introduced.

      To the Republican posters on this board, the person is all that matters. Republican good, everything else baaaaad.

    2. Amash doesn’t make the bill good or bad; it’s what’s actually in the bill that does that.
      But he named it “Civil Asset Forfeiture Elimination Act”. How can I support a bill that doesn’t have a good backronym?

      1. It’s the CAFE Act

    3. Agreed, though who introduces it and when gives one the ability to analyze the likelihood of success. And it sucks that it’s going to fail as it shouldn’t, but here we are…

      1. That should’ve been a reply to Jose Ortega y Gasset. Apologies.

      2. Right, but we can agree that it shouldn’t matter.

        Trump has been on the correct side of this issue in the past, where Biden has been consistently wrong.

        So do you think there’s any way Trump
        takes a principled stance and backs this proposal? Or will Amash’s lack of loyalty be all that matters to Trump?

        Do you agree that opposing this bill because of who proposed it is disgusting and worthy of harsh criticism from all of us?

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  24. Except that Amash is a lame duck who is leaving Congress.

    Had Amash introduced and championed this bill during the past four years (instead of trashing Trump and voting for his impeachment), he might be returning to Congress next year.

    Too little too late.

    1. I disagree. There’s no room for informed and principled dissent in either major political party. Once Amash made it clear he put his principles ahead of fealty to Trump, he was done. Modern American politics. Tribe over reason.

      1. Yes, and that’s a shame.

        Is there anyone on this thread who DOESN’T support this bill? Yet will they criticize their favorite politicians for not supporting it as well?

        I’m happy to praise Trump if he sets aside his loyalty above all else credo and actually supports this bill.

    2. It so appears. Additionally, how come he didn’t introduce this proposal earlier is interesting to contemplate.

  25. I think this bill makes it through if it had been introduced with enough time. But now I’m not sure.

    What’s more, the property seized doesn’t necessarily have to have been used by the alleged criminal in question. Such was the case with Kevin McBride, who had his Jeep taken by police in Tucson, Arizona, after his girlfriend allegedly used it to sell $25 worth of weed to an undercover cop.

    I’m not sure what this is supposed to mean. The jeep is alleged to have been used by the alleged criminal in question. Did editors cut something that changed the meaning? Should this be that the property doesn’t need to be “owned” instead of “used”?

    1. Yes, it should have said “owned”, but the trick with forfeiture is that it isn’t an accusation against the owner or other human criminal, who’d have standing to challenge it in court. It’s an accusation against the property itself, for participating in transportation of or payment for contraband or some similar thing, and the “owner” doesn’t always have standing to challenge the accusation in court.

      It’s like a trial of a vicious dog that’s bitten people, which can be convicted and executed even though the owner didn’t tell it to bite them. That jeep viciously carried $25 of politically incorrect weed to the cop, so it got convicted and sold. (But can the cops really legally sell the jeep or spend confiscated money? It may not have re-habilitated itself! Cops do steal\\\\\forfeit fast cards so they can drive them around as cop cars, but usually it’s about the money.)

      And no, good luck getting rid of forfeiture. The War On Drugs is more a Republican thing than a Democrat one, but Democrats have also cooperated with it and don’t like crossing the cops on issues like this. People have been lobbying about forfeiture reform since at least the 80s, and Congress has mostly allowed it.

      1. An unconstitutional law is “null & void” from the onset. If SCOTUS ignores their responsibility to officially make the call, then the public must act. Waiting for the politicians/branch who created the right’s violation, the branch that enforced it, and the branch that silently let it stand, is “willful blindness” of the failure of our govt. to protect us. It is willful blindness of the #1 danger to rights, i.e., the govt. It is cowardice in the face of a threat to our humanity, our society.
        A new law to protect us from a bogus law is a refusal to face the political reality that the whole political paradigm doesn’t work.

  26. Theft Under Color Of Law aka Asset Forfeiture aka Civil Asset Forfeiture are criminal scams perpetrated by “government” that should long since have been done away with. Will we now see these scams sink beneath the horizon? I wonder.

  27. Members of The House and U.S. Senate should be falling all over themselves to support of Amash’s proposal. The possibility of less than this sort of reaction from our Elected Representatives raises the most serious of questions concerning the following. Exactly what are Americas getting for the money showered on their Elected Representatives, aka The Congress?

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  29. Civil forfeiture laws are a disgrace. It is legalized stealing – as if the government needs any more help in that department. No one should have their property taken without being convicted of a crime first.

  30. An unconstitutional law is “null & void” from the onset. If SCOTUS ignores their responsibility to officially make the call, then the public must act. Waiting for the politicians/branch who created the right’s violation, the branch that enforced it, and the branch that silently let it stand, is “willful blindness” of the failure of our govt. to protect us. It is willful blindness of the #1 danger to rights, i.e., the govt. It is cowardice in the face of a threat to our humanity, our society.
    A new law to protect us from a bogus law is a refusal to face the political reality that the whole political paradigm doesn’t work.

  31. As hostile false flag infiltrators go, we could do a LOT worse than have Amash re-registering and trying to sell the LP on girl-bullying. Daddy and Randal Paul still cling to God’s Own Prohibitionist apronstrings while lying about being Libertarian. It’s a pity the overall effect will only be to further convince women voters the LP is allied with anti-choice Prohibitionism, Big Pharma and “expert witness” whores from the medical and televangelism cartels.

  32. I am very much in favor of eliminating civil forfeiture, but what gives the federal government the power to prohibit the states from doing it?

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