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Should Remote Workers Pay a Tax for the 'Privilege' of Using Their Home as an Office?

Deutsche Bank has proposed a 5 percent income tax on people working from home, the revenue from which could be spent supplementing the lost wages of service workers.

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The coronavirus pandemic has devastated the service sector, made millions unemployed, and forced many of us who still do have jobs to work remotely. Fortunately, we now have a perfect solution to all this economic dislocation and disruption: a new tax on working from home!

This week, the German financial giant Deutsche Bank released a new report full of proposals for how governments and corporations should respond to the pandemic. Included in the report is a call for a 5 percent tax on the incomes of people who work from home in places where the government is not advising or forcing people to do so.

"For years we have needed a tax on remote workers—COVID has just made it obvious," writes Deutsche Bank's Luke Templeton. "Remote workers are contributing less to the infrastructure of the economy whilst still receiving its benefits."

Those who have the privilege of telecommuting are reaping rewards hand over fist in the form of less money spent on transportation, restaurant meals, and dry cleaning, argues Templeton.

Who loses in that scenario? Service workers that once catered to downtown desk jockeys, and who now are suffering depressed wages or even unemployment as those office workers spend money closer to home. To right this wrong, Deutsche Bank is proposing a 5 percent tax on remote workers' salaries. This tax would be paid by the employer if it requires people to work from home, and it would be paid by the employee if he or she voluntarily opts into the arrangement.

A 5 percent tax on remote workers' income, which would net about $10 a day per worker on average, according to Deutsche Bank, would make sure no one benefits too much from using their home as an office. The revenue from the tax, estimated to be about $48 billion in the U.S., could provide each of the 29 million workers unable to work from home and making less than $30,000 a year with a $1,600 wage subsidy.

"A tax at this level means that neither companies or individuals will be worse off" when factoring in the savings of remote work arrangements, writes Templeton. "In fact, companies may be far better off as the savings from downsizing their office will more than make up for the cost of the [work from home] tax they will incur."

This last argument is just disingenuous. Workers and companies are made worse off by a new 5 percent tax on their income regardless of whether it only partially, or fully, wipes out the cost savings of telecommuting. Saving money is a good thing that policymakers should encourage rather than punish through taxation. This is why economists generally criticize taxes on the efficiency gains of new products and business practices.

Indeed, a tax on working from home would inherently be a tax on many of the silver linings of remote work. For instance, more work from home arrangements means fewer commuters on the roads, leading to less traffic congestion. If people continue to have public health concerns about public transit as offices reopen, remote work might help forestall the nightmare levels of congestion that would come from everyone driving to work.

One could take Templeton's argument for taxing the savings of telecommuters and apply it to almost any choice that sees workers and their employers spend less money in the business ecosystem around their offices. Should we tax workers who bring lunch from home because they aren't spending that money at a restaurant near their office? If a company implements a casual dress policy to attract talent, does it owe money to the local dry cleaning company for lost business?

The idea of a remote work tax also seems to assume that savings netted by telecommuters will just accumulate under the mattress. Odds are some of that work-from-home windfall is being spent on other products and services, like delivery meals and more online shopping. That will open up other job opportunities for service workers displaced by falling demand at the café or dry cleaner downtown.

Some workers have been made worse off by the shift to remote work, and that pain will likely continue in the event that not all companies return their full workforces to downtown areas and office parks. Yet, even if one thinks it's necessary to provide government assistance to workers whose customers have disappeared, we already have general taxes that could be used to fund wage supplements or welfare benefits, and wouldn't require essentially penalizing people who were more able to make the best of a bad situation.

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  1. Seriously, why even pose this as a question ?

    1. Real headline: No, people should not be taxed for working at home

      1. Actually they should be able to claim a “home office” tax deduction!

        1. They’re using the infrastructure less, so, yeah, why should they have to pay more for it. DB’s logic is completely back assward. It just furthers the concept that the products of your labor don’t actually belong to you. They belong to the government and the government will decide how much you get to keep.

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          2. Google is by and by paying $27485 to $29658 consistently for taking a shot at the web from home. I have joined this action 2 wn months back and I have earned $31547 in my first month from this action. I can say my life is improved completely! Take a gander at it

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        2. No deduction, but no tax. And a deduction for the folks with ‘real’ jobs, the ones Kirkland sneers at, who work in the trades, who keep the nation moving.

          1. I get paid more than $120 to $130 per hour for working online. I heard about this job 3 months ago and after joining this i have earned easily $15k from to this without having online working skills. This is what I do….. WORK24HERE

        3. 20 years ago, people would have thought it ludicrous to pay an internet tax (sales tax) on goods purchased from another state.

          Yet - here we are. This is what government does. Taxes the shit of you for every little thing. The second there is a new emerging activity or field or event, the government is debating on how they will tax the shit out of it. And then they use those taxes for government services (that you probably don't want, need, or maybe even use), or socialism inspired monetary redistributionism on the basis of "equality/equity."

          Then the reason staffers fucking vote for those people! Seriously!

          1. It’s called use tax instead of sales tax when you purchase something from a state without tax nexus to your state. You are supposed to pay it but most don’t. It isn’t new.

      2. If a tax is paid for working at home the business will just get it back in wage reduction from the employees

      3. People that chose to stay in slave states like New Yawk, New Germany, Kalipornia and Illinoise already pay a stupid person tax. I imagine with prices rising and tax revenue falling from the Kung Flu, they can expect more taxes. Unless, of course, the fascist dimocrat cabal in Congress bails them out with borrowed chi-com money.

    2. “Never Let a Good Crisis Go To Waste”

      -every democrat ever.

      1. “Always cause a massive avoidable crisis.”
        —Republicans

        1. ‘Never see the obvious 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier consequences of stupid policies we enact,’ and ‘Throw money at it while waving hands and wailing while claiming money is a solution; do not conduct intermediate progress checks, blame everyone but self for lack of plan when lack of plan fails’ -career politicians, but especially democrat/progressive types.

        2. “Always cause a massive avoidable crisis.”
          —Republicans

          Since when are the Chinese government and the Democrat governors and mayors of the U.S. cities that have bungled the Covid response the worst “Republicans”?

        3. Right. Republicans are the reason that the Covid pandemic is causing so many health and economic problems here when they could have been so easily avoided if only we had more enlightened, heavy-handed, leftist policies like Spain, France, Italy and the UK. For example, if only the U.S. government required permission slips to leave your home like they do in France, the U.S. could have avoided a second wave as France has done so successfully.

        4. Cause? You’re insane Tony even more than Trump pathetic person.

      2. “hurr durr my team good, your team bad.”

        Guess what? The government fucks up everything it touches, arguing for more government on either side just shows how little you grasp the issue. You, and typically retarded Tony. Of course the ignorant lefties will say they need to steal more of your money, that’s literally their MO, and useful faggots like Tony will defend them stealing the working man’s income, because “muh millionaires and billionaires” and some other stupid vague shit. Neither of you should have the right to take and spend my income just because you want “things”.

        1. If you make more than $400,000 then you should thank your hillbilly ass that somehow you’ve managed to survive and thrive in an economy that is too advanced for you. But you don’t make that much do you?

          1. Well luckily, that is probably not going to happen, because the DSA (democrats) didn’t take the senate as they had hoped.

            Hopefully McConnell flips them the bird for the next 2 years and precisely nothing, at all, gets done. The less the government does – the better.

            Also, I want to be a millionaire. I want you to be a millionaire. I want everyone in the US to be a millionaire. I don’t want to “share in the misery” as Churchill stated regarding socialism, by punishing the successful for their competence and an efficiency and innovation they bring to everyone through capitalism. The fact that you do, tells me you aren’t a libertarian, but a DSA leftard.

            1. Nobody is proposing socialism.

              What a terrible mistake you’ve made supporting slimy corrupt theocratic kleptocratic anti-democratic fascists in order to avoid a fate that was never real.

              Stop consuming rightwing media. It’s ruining your brain and the country.

              1. Socialism is Bidencare for All, New Green Deal, even more progressive tax rates. Quit your silly talking points get a job make money be happy.

              2. Socialism is saying the government can shut down the economy by dictum than taxing only some to pay for it. Such a joke it’s always clowns like you who are ennobled by saying others should pay for your sanctimony.

    3. Joe Biden announced Job opportunity for everyone! Work from comfort of your home, on your computer And you can work with your own working hours. …………VISIT HERE FOR FULL DETAIL.

    4. Why the fuck is a central bank even tossing off ideas about taxation? Get back in your lane, assholes.

      -jcr

    5. And thus, I have severed all ties with Deutsche Bank. I have no accounts with them nor will I do business with them.
      Now. About new taxes on bank managers!

  2. “Should Remote Workers Pay a Tax”

    Not a shred of principle involved here such as taxation “might” be theft.
    The article implicitly backs the morality of state taxes

    1. Yes, that final paragraph kind of sums it up.

      Yet, even if one thinks it’s necessary to provide government assistance to workers whose customers have disappeared, we already have general taxes that could be used to fund wage supplements or welfare benefits, and wouldn’t require essentially penalizing people who were more able to make the best of a bad situation.

      1. or we could, you know, lift the unnecessary lockdowns and let people go back to work and support themselves.

        1. Sorry, CE. That’s advocating too much liberty to make sense to the staff of a libertarian magazine.

          1. Sorry, CE. That’s advocating too much liberty to make sense to the staff of a libertarian magazine.

            Damn straight! Right there.

        2. Are you crazy? Someone might get COVID and die. And those are the only deaths that matter right now. So if it saves even one person from COVID, we have to do it.

          1. Are you crazy? For every one person who dies of COVID, thousands might catch it and face a miniscule risk of dying. If it saves even one person the marginal risk that they can themselves forego without our intervention, we have to do it.

            1. Are you crazy? For every person who catches COVID, thousands might worry about catching it and face crushing depression and anxiety. If it saves even one person from being melancholy, we have to do it.

        3. You are completely missing the reality here. Companies themselves are looking at gutting ‘the way work/life used to be’. Permanently. The lockdown was merely the excuse needed to ensure that companies would have no risk in testing how to do it because everyone had to do it. That is the beginnings of what becomes cronyism.

          Some companies will and are benefiting immensely from lockdowns. Since there were no public health measures implemented in the US with lockdowns – lockdowns themselves were the extent of public health measures, it means that lockdowns can be used now and in future as a way to deliver crony benefits. If it requires a couple of fig leafs and pretenses about public health – that’s easy.

          This is going to become permanent. As permanent as being inspected at the airport for box cutters exploding underwear shampoo.

          It doesn’t surprise me that this particular article – and all the comments I’ve read – also misses the real point. All I’ve seen is a bunch of fucking knee-jerkers reciting the usual old narrative. Which is fine. It’s healthy for everyone to do a jumping jacks routine in the morning.

          But lost. As usual. Is the real story here. That we are finding reasons for 2020 to become the start of a new norm. And its not going to be what you morons chant. It’s going to be society run by Zoom, Amazon, Netflix, Google, etc. And if you challenge that — time for another lockdown.

          1. Ignore the particulars of this DB stuff.

            WHY would someone propose a tax (or anything structural – including say a tax credit or rebate) on something that is supposed to disappear in a few months? You don’t do that. Unless the real propose is a trial balloon about making this stuff permanent. If DB is blowing hot air in that balloon today – Zoom and Amazon will do the same tomorrow.

          2. WTF does working from home have to do with “cronyism”?

    2. Should analysts for Deutsche Bank be hunted for sport and have their heads placed on pikes?

      1. Should “free” Americans be forced to buy Reason Magazine?

        How is your totalitarian “fix” coming along, Damikesc?

        Free speech (freedom from “Cancel Culture”) comes from Facebook, Twitter, Tik-Tok, and Google, right? THAT is why we need to pass laws to prohibit these DANGEROUS companies (which, ugh!, the BASTARDS, put profits above people!)!!! We must pass new laws to retract “Section 230” and FORCE the evil corporations to provide us all (EXCEPT for my political enemies, of course!) with a “UBIFS”, a Universal Basic Income of Free Speech!

        So leftist “false flag” commenters will inundate Reason-dot-com with shitloads of PROTECTED racist comments, and then pissed-off readers and advertisers and buyers (of Reason magazine) will all BOYCOTT Reason! And right-wing idiots like Damikesc will then FORCE people to support Reason, so as to nullify the attempts at boycotts! THAT is your ultimate authoritarian “fix” here!!!

        “Now, to “protect” Reason from this meddling here, are we going to REQUIRE readers and advertisers to support Reason, to protect Reason from boycotts?”
        Yup. Basically. Sounds rough. (Quote damikesc)
        (Etc.)
        See https://reason.com/2020/06/24/the-new-censors/#comments

        1. Do you happen to run your own blog?

        2. I’d only read this if it had more random caps-lock. Less than half the words capitalized is insane, but not enough to really be interesting.

        3. SQRLSY One
          November.9.2020 at 4:26 pm

          Bimsday, 39 Bemberbember 2020 at 6:66 PM
          I love to LIE my ass off, and suck Satan’s dick! Because I hate humanity! The Evil One is the Father of Lies, just as Der TrumpfenFuhrer is the Stable Genius! So, as the apple falls not far from the tree, I INSIST on telling obvious lies, all day, every day! Butt… Surprise, surprise! Other Evil Ones Junior will fall for my lies… Because they want to!

      2. Hell, even $1000 for a DB Analyst stamp sounds like a deal! Free market FTW!

      3. Analysts, executives, it doesn’t matter. If they’re wearing a DB ID, open season, no bag limit.

      4. They will end up very much like the executives of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation when the revolution starts most likely for coming up with this crazy idea. Also, who asked them in the 1st place?

    3. From each according to his ability to each according to his need. Or more likely to politicians, bureaucrats and their cronies.

  3. This tax would be paid by the employer if it requires people to work from home, and it would be paid by the employee if he or she voluntarily opts into the arrangement.

    In other words, both are paid by the employee. Doesn’t Deutsche Bank have any economists working there?

    1. An economist in a bank? Must have escaped from a zoo.

      1. ALL of these BAD things are happening, up-Chuck, because YOU were a slouch, and neglected to refresh your MAGA-magic-underwear batteries!!!

        Have you changed out the batteries in you magic underwear lately? Super-heavy usage will wear out those batteries, you know!

        What’s up-Chuck?!?! Ya gonna EAT that, up-Chuck, or can I bury it in my back yard? I’m a-lookin’ fer some fart-a-lizer!
        How much up-Chuck, could an up-Chuck, chuck up,
        If an up-Chuck could chuck up up-Chuck?

        1. The question on everyone’s mind: What’s more disgusting to eat, puke or shit? Because it appears that you are interested in eating them both.

          1. “SQRLSY One
            September.30.2020 at 12:53 pm

            Yes! This FURTHER proves that Hitler was NOT a racist!
            Since even Hitler wasn’t a racist, we can pretty firmly conclude that racism isn’t a “thing” at all!

            “SQRLSY One
            November.1.2020 at 8:51 am

            Here, this is a pretty good match! Every asshole is a good, right, and TRUE, benevolent asshole!
            https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/hitler
            “My spirit will rise from the grave and the world will see I was right.”
            ― Adolf Hitler

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    2. stop giving California new ideas

  4. How would they collect? If it’s self reported most people would lie. If it’s employer reported then more people would go back to the office to avoid the tax.

    Incentives matter. The left doesn’t get it and never have. It’s why they should not be in charge, ever.

    1. Note the tax would only apply in cases where the government isnt calling for remote work.

      That’s one way to get people to welcome lockdown

    2. If it’s employer reported then more people would go back to the office to avoid the tax.

      Since *February* there’s been a sign on our office door saying “These offices don’t need cleaned.” Even the offices that want to comply with COVID will just pay the intern or other low man to take their own garbage out rather than paying the cleaning people to trudge from office to office and potentially building to building carrying the disease(s) with them.

  5. Those who have the privilege of telecommuting are reaping rewards hand over fist in the form of less money spent on transportation, restaurant meals, and dry cleaning, argues Templeton.

    A better solution: nationalize all businesses. Eliminate prices and money. Tell people where to work, and when. Central planning FTW!

    1. “Those who have the privilege of telecommuting are reaping rewards hand over fist in the form of less money spent on transportation, restaurant meals, and dry cleaning, argues Templeton.”

      And in return, I had to dedicate a portion of my house to be used as a home office. I had to dedicate another portion of my house as an auxiliary office so that my wife and I can take meetings at the same time without shouting over one another. I had to buy an extra desk, monitor and other equipment. Do I get a tax credit for those expenses?

      My wife and I also no longer receive lunch provided by our employer. We cannot use the on site gym. We do not receive the benefit of Happy Hours thrown by teams in our Office, or movie nights. My insurance company now requires me to do telepresence doctor “visits” rather than going into THEIR offices. I have to pay for my own office consumables, like pens, notepads and printer paper/toner.

      I am not complaining about the benefits we lost, but I am pointing out that those were by and large deductible expenses that the company does not get to claim. They will pay taxes on those dollars, which will likely result in far more than 5% of their employee wages.

      1. There you go, trying to counter a tax proposal with wisdom and common sense.

        1. If wisdom and common sense doesn’t work, there’s always the clue-by-four to the occiput.

      2. You can deduct business expenses like those you mention. But it only makes sense if your total itemized deductions are more than the standard deduction, which isn’t the case for very many people, especially since Trump and the GOP raised it back in 2018. (We used to itemize our deductions and not having to do it anymore is AMAZING!)

        Also, don’t forget the fraction of your utility bills that go to support your home office. I doubt your employer covers that. You can deduct those too.

        1. Actually, you probably can’t, unless you own the business. Unreimbursed employee business expenses stopped being deductible with the 2018 TCJA.

  6. Funny, this is the same week that I released a report saying Deutsche bank can kiss my ass

  7. Here is a better solution to help the service industry… End lockdowns that are scientifically dubious at best.

    1. Also, how large a percentage of the population really can work from home? Want to work from home? How does it impact productivity (I’ve seen research that goes both directions on this question)?

      1. Tax people who support lockdowns at 90%

        1. Why only 90%? Make it 100%.

          1. 95% is the sweet spot.

            Should 5% appear too small, be thankful I don’t take it.

            Cuz I’m the Taxman…..

            1. err, be thankful I don’t take it all.

              When will Reason add the Edit button?

              1. Are they aware there’s a comment section?

                1. Yes, and they hate it.

        2. I’ve always thought that taxing everyone who likes the idea of socialism 100% would be a good experiment to see how much they like it after the fact.

          1. Nah. Socialism is all about Other People’s Money.

          2. Interesting idea. Let people opt in to a system where they pay a 100% income tax, but receive everything they need from the state (housing, food, transportation, health care, everything). The only caveat is that the state must support these people solely from the taxes they pay, not from the lower tax rate others pay.

            Obviously, it wouldn’t work. You and I would end up subsidizing these voluntary communists in less than a fiscal quarter.

            1. A business would hire a pure socialist staff a fraction of the price of a capitalist staff and purge the competition. Reason would cheer the free trade and the free market at work and the commentariate would deride the bitter clingers by telling them to build their own socialist paradise.

              When everyone figured out that they got paid the same whether they worked or not and the whole system collapsed, Reason would libertarian-rationalize about how this is just the new normal and both sides are equally at fault.

        3. Lock up people who enact lockdowns.

        4. This. I have similar feelings about reparations. You support them? Great, pony up the dough. No? Then fuck off.

      2. I want to drive my tractor trailer from home.

  8. >>Those who have the privilege of telecommuting are reaping rewards hand over fist in the form of less money spent on transportation, restaurant meals, and dry cleaning

    privilege … was totes awarded my gainful employment lol

    1. Are they also not using roads less, requiring police less, and actually handling expenses that an employer normally would?

      1. And benefiting the environment. Germans must hate air.

  9. So this is just dumb.

    A more serious question would be the fight NH and MA are about to have over MA continuing to tax NH residents working from home.

    New Hampshire To Sue Massachusetts Over Remote Worker Income Tax

    1. Stop giving California ideas. Lots of tech workers fled to Lake Tahoe (Nevada).

    2. I’d like to think NH has a chance but I doubt it. Why should NH residents pay MA any tax regardless of where they work? No matter how you slice it, it’s always going to be taxation without representation. If it were MA and VT I could see a reciprocal agreement between the states but NH and MA is particularly one sided.

  10. FYou Douche Bank. How about this? A 10% tax on all transactions that occur through your ATMs that put tellers out of work. Paid for, of course, by bank profits, not as transaction fees.

  11. Deutsche bank executives should pay a 5 percent income tax for being cockmonglers.

  12. No. Next question.

    PS, anyone want to defend this article as being written by a libertarian?

    1. I think you just lit the WK-signal.

      1. it might be preoccupied by daydreams of Jesse.

          1. I would consider a restraining order.

            1. He can escape to Canada. WK thinks we’re Kryptonite.

    2. “PS, anyone want to defend this article as being written by a libertarian?”

      Did you read the article? He summarizes the arguments of Douche Bank and then goes on to disagree with every one of those arguments. The following paragraph and everything below it in the article DISAGREES with DB’s points:

      “This last argument is just disingenuous. Workers and companies are made worse off by a new 5 percent tax on their income regardless of whether it only partially, or fully, wipes out the cost savings of telecommuting. Saving money is a good thing that policymakers should encourage rather than punish through taxation. This is why economists generally criticize taxes on the efficiency gains of new products and business practices.”

      1. “Douche Bank”

        That’s not the punchline I was going for but I’ll take it.

  13. As an at-home worker who’s lost 25% of my income due to COVID, do I get a share of that pie? What about the daycare tuition I have to pay regardless of whether they’re open in order to maintain my spot, does that count against the 5%? Or the tutor I’m hiring. And for how long do I have to maintain this? I took a look at my spending since the lockdown began, and it’s up by a lot–it’s almost like some loss of economic activity translates to more activity elsewhere. Do I get a rebate on all the additional money I’ve been spending on home office furniture, computers for kids, house repairs from extra wear and tear, etc?

    1. What about the people who quit their jobs at ShopRite and are working from home now?

      I think we could all get on board with taxing them by the word for their spam.

      1. Cotdammit, dont say Beetlejuice

    2. First they pass the law as stated, then they start handing out exceptions. Get in line.

    3. What about the taxes I’m still forced to pay for the schools that refuse to open, the libraries that remain shut, the public swimming pools, etc etc. Instead of taxing us more the government should be taxing us less considering how little they are doing right now.

      1. Here’s an example. I lost my Drivers license so go to the DMV for a replacement. Five weeks cause Kung Flu. Or go to the Triple A office, pay 20 bucks on top of the 12 for the replacement, out the door in 15 minutes. I did tell the gal that did my paperwork that they should take the whole operation over.

    4. don’t forget what probably is an even bigger expense is heating and cooling of the house 24/7 now. that could almost double your energy bill

  14. “Remote workers are contributing less to the infrastructure of the economy whilst still receiving its benefits.”

    “And don’t even get me started about the contribution/benefit ratio of bank, er, I mean , *politicians*!!

  15. There are very few human activities that cannot be solved by the forced redistribution of wealth.

    1. Except maybe trying to become wealthy.

    2. There are zero human activities that cannot be ruined by the forced redistribution of wealth. There, fixed it.

    3. I support the forced redistribution of Swedish bikini models for the greater good.

  16. Well, if Obamacare has taught us anything it’s that not money in a taxable manner is identical to stealing from the king.

    1. “Not spending money” that is.

  17. If anything, those of us working from home should get a tax credit for the roads we’re not wearing down and the air we’re not polluting.

    1. You need to get taxed for the auto dealerships, repair, gas stations and suppliers, road repair crews, commercial real estate owners, office service workers, food shop owners and everyone else you are harming with your increased productivity and efficiency.

    2. Gas taxes pay for the roads…

      1. Not in California. Not sure where the taxes from the gas goes, but it’s definitely not the roads.

  18. When did using the roads = contributing to the infrastructure. Unless you are using toll roads of course.

    1. There is definitely a good argument that most if not all roads should be paid for with tolls as opposed to taxes. Of course large transportation companies and daily commuters can purchase some sort of monthly or yearly pass.

      1. Toll free in ’73!

  19. The laid off service workers should learn to code.

  20. It’s the arrogance of people like this and democrat enablers and socialists that creates the illusion it’s their money and they are only letting you have some of it. This is the kind of bullshit you get when Biden takes office with his stupid squad of economic illiterates.

  21. I propose a #LearnToCode tax. Anyone who works in media (to be hammered out in committee) should pay a 25% income tax over and above their normal federal tax to help works who were laid off or didn’t have jobs that could be done remotely.

    1. I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    2. Or, perhaps anyone who works in entertainment, media, academe could be hammered to a tree with spikes and left for the crows? Fewer people is another way of improving quality of life. It won’t fix the bad roads in deep blue areas, but the trees and wildlife will be well-nourished. This learn to code canard is laughable, most folks lack the math and reasoning skills for all but the most basic (pun intended, but that language is out for them) coding.

  22. Fuck anyone with an equity fetish.

    To them the rationale for any tax is (1) somebody has money therefore (2) someone else deserves to get it.

    The rest is just political theater.

    1. Also, they create disparities, and we get to pay for them.

  23. One could take Templeton’s argument for taxing the savings of telecommuters and apply it to almost any choice that sees workers and their employers spend less money in the business ecosystem around their offices.

    Or one could stop taking Templeton’s argument seriously for anything more than it is – a diversionary tactic designed to distract you from their real aim of extracting more money from whatever source they can.

    Look, we’re all adults here, let’s can the bullshit, shall we? “You’ve got money, we want it, hand it over” is all the more justification the government has or needs for taxation, cut the crap about arguments and justifications and rationalizations for why this is good or reasonable or fair or whatever – all those are are ways to salve your conscience and convince yourself that you’re not really stealing money from people, that somehow stealing their money is really treating them fairly.

    You know who does that sort of shit, treats somebody badly but convinces themselves that somehow they are treating them fairly and just as they deserve to be treated? Psychopaths, that’s who. You’re a fucking psychopath convinced in your own twisted little mind that your shitty treatment of others is moral rectitude. No, it’s not. You’re a shitty fucking evil thief, and you’re fucking insane if you can’t recognize and admit that.

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  26. I propose a 10% tax on people that want to raise other peoples’ taxes.

  27. “Remote workers are contributing less to the infrastructure of the economy whilst still receiving its benefits.”

    This doesn’t make sense.

    If they were using that infrastructure – then those service workers would be getting paid, like normal. If they’re not getting paid, its because people aren’t using the infrastructure they support anymore.

    1. Duetsch Bank should fire Templeton – he’s obviously too stupid to be involved in banking.

  28. First the social media companies take over from the electoral college in determining the presidential election, and now Deutsche Bank is in the business of passing taxes?

    Aux Barricades!!!!!!!

  29. “Those who have the privilege of telecommuting are reaping rewards hand over fist in the form of less money spent on transportation, restaurant meals, and dry cleaning, argues Templeton.”

    JFC, this guy really is a moron.

    If they’re hurt by a change in circumstances then they were already benefiting from the previous circumstances – so why was there not a tax on service workers to compensate those workers required to work in an office?

    Was was that tax, before, not required, but now it is?

  30. Why in the world would they want to discourage at-home working? And how do at-home workers not contribute to the economy? It’s like arguing that people who ride their bike to work contribute less to the economy because they don’t pay for gas.

    1. And all that huffing and puffing from the cyclists MUST be creating more and more CO2 as those scofflaws exhale like crazy. They should pay a $500.00 a day tax for destroying the climate

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      2. and the extra construction for all the bike lanes.

        1. And the extra emissions from cars having to sit at lights longer because the bike lanes sheared two lanes down to one.

    2. Well they aren’t paying the gas taxes that build their bike lanes.

  31. Given Deutsche Bank’s checkered past of financing the Third Reich and aggressively marketing bad mortgage securities well into the collapse of same during the 2007 financial crisis, they should SHUT THE FUCK UP.

  32. Hey — I have a better idea, Deutsche Bank! How about if you pay YOUR taxes instead of trying to get governments to stick it (more) to the middle class?
    https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report/deutsche-bank-says-five-former-board-members-probed-over-cum-ex

    1. 1. Bloomberg as a source will win no arguments. 2. 5 former board members, not current 3. Probed, not indicted, fined, jailed. Not exactly crushing stuff.

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  34. Should Remote Workers Pay a Tax for the ‘Privilege’ of Using Their Home as an Office? NO

  35. What about the people who were working from home before covid? I have a friend who works for a company in another state and has never been to their office. My son’s girlfriend was working from home 4 days a week before covid now she works from home all 5, does she have to pay the tax one day a week? Before covid my nephew walked to work since it was a 5 minute walk and also walked home for lunch. His expenses haven’t changed by working from home, he is just getting less exercise.

  36. Called it a tariff and you’ll see a bunch of conservative clamor for it.

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  38. I have co-workers who are working from home “voluntarily”–because the government is keeping the schools closed. Should they be taxed on top of the property taxes they’re paying for the schools that no longer serve them?

  39. Short answer: “No”

    Long answer: “What the bloody fucking hell, Deutsche Bank? Your job should be to protect and grow your clients’ wealth, not give bandits ideas on how to rob your clients of that wealth. What’s next? Wells Fargo alerting Black Bart exactly when the next gold shipment will be passing through a slot canyon?”

  40. Should we tax workers who bring lunch from home because they aren’t spending that money at a restaurant near their office?

    Yes!

    If a company implements a casual dress policy to attract talent, does it owe money to the local dry cleaning company for lost business?

    Yes!

    The answer to “should we tax” is Yes!

  41. This “privilege Tax” idea is absolutely Ludicrous. People working from home either doing office work or a self employed home business shouldn’t be taxed more because they dont work in a pubic building. That’s beyond ridiculous.

    Maybe we should start taxing people for having an IQ below 110 and give it to those who have 110+. I would enjoy that one.
    those who wouldn’t like that are likely the ones who have to pay up. That would be just as unfair.

  42. Makes perfect sense. Gubment forces us into a shutdown creating this boom in working from home and now tax those same peeps. GENIUS!

  43. i have a better idea….. fuck off….

    seriously….. they want to punish people for doing what we are encouraging people to do? how does that make any sense? do they just want to give people more reasons to ignore recommendations and guidelines?

  44. “Remote workers are contributing less to the infrastructure of the economy whilst still receiving its benefits.”

    Good thing banks are not our government yet.

    Imagine if they took this logic further and taxed people based on whether they were a net drain on society or not.

  45. I think there might be some guys in suits who just paid a lot of money for shiny new office space that’s going to waste.

  46. So douchebag Luke Templeton of Douchebag Bank thinks the cost of working from home should be in the form of a tax on the middle class? Hahaha, what an idiot. These people are lucky to have a job working from home and most have already had a pay cut by their employers. How about a tax on banks instead of middle class workers. Not sure what to call the tax, but maybe we could call it the Douchebag tax since the idea is from Douchebag Bank. 5% may be a bit high for them, so let’s go with 1% on every dollar that passes through their greedy little hands. They make more than enough money to deal with a tax like that.

    1. Oh yeah, isn’t Douchebag Bank the bank who loaned trump billions to make themselves look legitimate in the USA? How bout they collect the money owed by trump and pay a 1% tax on that. They would probably cry like bitches if that happened.

  47. DB’s logic is textbook Keynesianism. It’s the foundation of the Democratic Party.

  48. Do it in Germany. Make it 10%. Germans deserve it good and hard.

  49. “Remote workers are contributing less to the infrastructure of the economy whilst still receiving its benefits.”

    Oh, fuck you. It’s not my job to contribute to infrastructure I don’t need.

  50. One more example of “picking winners and losers”.

  51. “Odds are some of that work-from-home windfall is being spent on other products and services”

    What work-from-home windfall? It isn’t like the house heats and cools itself for free or the water just flows in and out like a stream. Wear and tear on my computer must be free just like the electricity it uses.

    Plus the net is running at about half speed because literally everyone is online – all the time. If you’re lucky and have freshly upgraded infrastructure great you may not notice but the old ratty connections are bogged down to a crawl and I’m sure most people on the zoom meetings I attend don’t actually stutter that badly.

    The seven dollar rebate I get from car insurance is sure to fill any gap even though the new car has only managed to accrue 743 miles since its purchase back just before the pandemic, glad I bought one that gets great gas mileage.

    When do we get to tax the government for effectively locking us up? It isn’t like we can just go out and have a beer and play pool or darts at the pub with friends once we’re done enjoying all this w-f-h “windfall”.

  52. “The coronavirus pandemic has devastated the service sector, made millions unemployed, and forced many of us who still do have jobs to work remotely.”

    Literally, none of this is true, but what do you expect from the leftist assholes who pretend they believe in liberty. In reality, political fear mongering and over reach due to a mildly dangerous flu has devastated the service sector, made millions unemployed, and forced many of us who still do have jobs to work remotely.

  53. Virtue signaling at its finest.

  54. I am sure this is another proposal the Washington gangsters will enact to confiscate additional income of those who work at home.

  55. WHAT RETARD THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA? AND WHAT RETARD GAVE IT AN AIRING LIKE IT WAS A LEGITIMATE SUGGESTION.

    SOME DOUCHEBAG SUGGEST AN ODDBALL TAX AND SOME OTHER JACKASS TWEETS IT LIKE IT WAS NEWS?

    WE’RE FUCKED

  56. This is satire, right?

  57. When I switched to working from home 100%, capital costs moved from my employer to me. I use my space, my furniture, my utilities, my modem (which I upgraded) and my monitor (which I doubled), my newly purchased headset, my printer and ink etc.

    At the same time, my employer shuttered the office building where I used to work, saving on utilities and maintenance. If the switch becomes permanent, the building and its contents could be sold off. My employer is saving millions and may convert millions of capital cost into cash.

    And Douche Bank wants to tax *me*? When my costs went up while my employer’s costs went down? Hell no! My employer should be taxed (or should pay me more because I am now investing in my own capital).

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  59. This is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. If you are lucky enough or smart enough to have a job that allows you to telecommute, you should be taxed extra for it. How about stay at home moms? Should they also be subject to the tax? What about those on welfare? They ‘work’ from home? What about writers and artists? Don’t they work from home too? Where is their tax? Lots of people worked from home before COVID and the government survived just fine.

    1. Yes! Mom Tax will go over well! We should also tax Apple Pie, and the 4th of July.

      1. Shit, this is me giving California ideas again, wasn’t it?

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