Election 2020

Trump Says 'We'll Be Going to the Supreme Court' Over Election Results

The legal fight over mail-in ballots may soon heat up at SCOTUS.

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"We'll be going to the Supreme Court," President Donald Trump declared overnight as the final results of the 2020 presidential election were still coming in. "We want all voting to stop. We don't want them to find any ballots at 4 o'clock in the morning and add them to the list."

Republicans have already been knocking on the Supreme Court's door this election cycle. On October 28, the Supreme Court denied a motion to expedite consideration of a petition filed by the Republican Party of Pennsylvania, which is fighting a Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision allowing state officials to count mailed-in ballots that are received up to three days after Election Day, so long as those ballots are postmarked by Election Day. The state court's ruling also said that ballots with no postmark or with an illegible postmark may be presumed to have been filed in a timely manner if they are received in that same three-day post-election window.

In a statement accompanying the Court's denial of the motion in Republican Party of Pennsylvania v. Boockvar, Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch, argued that the Court should have gotten involved right away. What is more, those three justices made it pretty clear that they thought the Republican Party of Pennsylvania should prevail. "It would be highly desirable to issue a ruling on the constitutionality of the State Supreme Court's decision before the election," Alito wrote. "That question has national importance, and there is a strong likelihood that the State Supreme Court decision violates the Federal Constitution."

Although SCOTUS declined to fast-track this petition, it is still pending before the Court. This means that the legal dispute could still be heard and decided by the justices. It also means that, depending on how the vote ultimately shakes out in Pennsylvania and other battleground states, this particular case could still play a role in determining the outcome of the presidential election.

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  1. You know, I think at this point we should just compromise and name Kanye our next president.

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    1. Kanye is legitimately mentally ill. But he would still be an improvement over Trump.

      1. Your opinion counts for nothing, eunuch.

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      2. “legitimately mentally ill”

        I think that’s a prerequisite for the Presidency, covered under the penumbras and emanations of the Constitution.

      3. When it comes to baseless and ignorant commentary, you are in a class by yourself.

    2. And we could have Taylor Swift interrupt the State of the Union.

      1. Yo Kanye, Imma let you finish, but Obama had one of the best State of the Unions of all time! OF ALL TIME!

        1. Is Kanye in your butt right now?

          1. The man is NOT a gay fish who married a hobbit, okay? He’s NOT!

      2. that might get me to watch it for a change

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  3. Wisconsin had something like 104% turnout. What could be more democratic than that?

      1. Can’t wait to read the latest from freedom-eagle-blog.net!

        1. Never heard of that website before. Did you just make that up?

  4. In the mean time I hope he pardons snowden

    1. That would be great, but why would he?

      1. To stick to the IC for spying on him.

      2. because Snowden’s a Russian now?

  5. I predict 7-2 votes on narrow procedural grounds to keep half the country from hating the SC’s guts. They can’t enforce shit; they have to rely on everyone grudgingly accepting when they lose there.

    1. Anyone notice how COVID19 masks and social distancing went out the window for Democrats starting during last night’s election coverage?

  6. Roberts really flubbed this one. I want to take him at his word that he doesn’t want to be the arbiter of law and social change. I imagine that he probably figured there was a chance that PA wouldn’t be decisive, and so therefor he didn’t want to have the court butt in.

    But this was a terrible risk analysis. He actually passed on the opportunity to rule when PA wasn’t known to be decisive in the election, therefore opening up the risk that SCOTUS would once again be put in the role of King Maker. Roberts ensured the exact opposite of his usual intent.

    1. >>Roberts ensured the exact opposite of his usual intent.

      he’s the center of attention. mission accomplished.

      1. Yeah this. I think it worked out just as he wanted.

      2. He might well be in the minority of a 5-4.

    2. Most of his gambits to preserve the integrity of the Court has actually made the Court look more political. His gambling has been more the Democrats will take action about it and the GOP will not.

  7. I am really tired of the TDS in these articles. There is no mention of the Democratic party’s role in changing the rules; only Trump’s opposition to changing the rules, as if making voting (and vote fraud) easier at the last minute is so fucking sweetness and light that only a Nazi child molester could oppose it.

    Every fucking dispute has two sides, every single one. This one-sided bias smacks of blaming the Jews for not leaving while the going was good, and that the cattle cars and gas chambers were just what happens to people who don’t listen to their betters.

    1. Pretty much that. The Democrats are engaging in some fairly significant fraud here. That doesn’t mean that Trump really won the election. It is possible the Democrats cheated but didn’t have to. Who knows. But, as you say there are two sides to the argument.

      I don’t know how it is going to work out. Anyone who thinks they know which side is going to win is fooling themselves.

      1. I know which side is going to win.

        CHAOS!

        We’re all fucked.

        1. I’d go back to your alternate universe while you still can.

          1. I can’t. I was sent back in time, or so I thought. Turns out that reality is indeed like a pair of pants; you can come down one leg or the other, but not both at the same time.

            1. You gotta wiggle a little.

      2. The Democrats are engaging in some fairly significant fraud here.
        Spare us your outrage. Trump (and you) have been screaming that since 2016, and even Trump’s own commission to find the fraud couldn’t dig it up and had to quietly dissolve in shame.

        1. “Trump (and you) have been screaming that since 2016”

          Hi that was a different election, it’s 2020.

          HTH.

        2. Even if there is zero shenanigans going on in these battleground states (seems pretty unlikely given the swings some of them have experienced), they’ve done everything in their power to ensure that half the damn country doubts the results no matter who wins.

        3. Since there are no records that check people’s identities in many states, there is NO WAY TO KNOW IF FRAUD HAS OCCURRED.

          That’s why we need voter ID laws.

    2. If you listen to Rev. Art, not listening to our betters and getting our just deserts is exactly what should happen.

      1. Say the devil’s name, and he will appear.

    3. “I am really tired of the TDS in these articles.”

      Open wider, clinger.

  8. >>so long as those ballots are postmarked by Election Day

    how can you type this and the next sentence? don’t perpetuate the fraud

    1. Meh
      A USPS worker can go and set a clock on a postmarking machine and get around that. Heck they probably have a surplus post marking machine in the room where they are filling in the fraudulent ballots to make up the difference.

      To avoid shenanigans, and maintain at least a semblance of legitimacy, ballots need to have arrived the day before election, and under strict lock and key.
      Its not as though the day is a secret.

      Allowing them day of, and worse several days after is pretty much an open invitation to commit fraud.

      1. Just because your fertile imagination imagined it, doesn’t mean it happened. That’s not how reality works.

  9. US Constitution, Twelfth Amendment: The states get to choose their electors in the manner they see fit. Which means if a state wants to wait for ballots to arrive via snail mail (as they have in all prior elections for absentee ballots) then that’s up to them, not the president. So long as they’re properly postmarked, I’m fine.

    Quite frankly, Trump is pulling a Hillary by whining that the constitution is unfair.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    1. So long as they’re properly postmarked, I’m fine.

      Apparently the state court said explicitly that they don’t have to be properly postmarked.

    2. So you’re ignoring the whole means and manner being determined by the legislative branch, not the executive or judicial?

      1. “The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.”

        That means the Congress, NOT THE PRESIDENT, gets to choose the date of electing the electors.

        This is also not a clear clause. Electors were NOT chosen yesterday. Not is it clear that ballots must be physically in the hands of county registrars by a certain date. I would argue it does NOT say such a thing.

        The clause says NOTHING about county registrars and how they get ballots to the state office that elects electors. Trump whining that postmarks not good enough, but taking that logic to its conclusion why is he not whining that ballots aren’t physically in state capitals by midnight Tuesday? Same logic.

        Trump can sue all he wants, but I don’t see the Constitutional basis of his winning. Rather, I see much sensibility in allowing votes that were cast on time but not delivered by post to be counted. This is sensible because in nearly every area of legal life it’s the post mark date that counts.

        Trump is just fishing for excuses to whine. And white frankly it’s pathetic. It makes him look like Hillary.

  10. https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1324031623785029634

    AZ update: apparently the use of sharpie pens in gop precincts is causing ballots to be invalidated. Could be huge numbers of mostly Trump supporters. More to come

    ewelbirdy
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    Didnt they TELL then to use sharpies?
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    They GAVE us sharpies, not the usually black felt pens.

    1. The lesson here is bring your own fucking black pen.

    2. For arizona it doesn’t matter – Biden won Phoenix and Tucson. Winning by a wider margin does nothing.

  11. So we are leaving the Most© Important® Election© In Our Lifetime® in the hands of the Post Office?

    1. This. Fucking. Year.

      1. 2020, the year the totalitarians came full force.
        Welcome to the new normal, comrade.
        Have fun building back better.

    2. Trump’s post office, lest you forget.

      1. Deep state is deep state.

  12. The state court’s ruling also said that ballots with no postmark or with an illegible postmark may be presumed to have been filed in a timely manner if they are received in that same three-day post-election window.

    Whatever direction this thing goes, this is shady as fucking shit.

    “We have rules to ignore, damnit!”

    1. The Constitution gives the states the authority to handle their elections. The state court agreed. We did not have a national election yesterday, we had fifty state elections.

      You can be pissed all you want, but if you don’t live in that state, then you have no standing to sue.

  13. “Trump Says ‘We’ll Be Going to the Supreme Court’ Over Election Results”

    That’s the only way to challenge the tens of thousands of ballots Democrats manufactured and filling out in Philly and Pittsburgh.

    Last night, Democrat AG Josh Shapiro claimed that Biden won PA, and Democrat Allegheny County Executive Rich Fitzgerald said the same thing this morning. They sure seem to know a lot about the ballots that still haven’t been counted.

    1. Are you the dumbass who got stomped at a polling place in Pittsburgh for belligerent ignorance a few months back? I vaguely recall video of the tap-out.

    2. And last night Trump claimed he wont the election.

      If you won’t ding Trump for counting his chickens before they hatch, it’s rather partisan to ding others for the same over-eagerness, no?

      1. Trump doesn’t control any counting.

        But hey, you tried.

        1. Neither do attorney generals or county executives, idiot.

          1. And now you’re mad becasue he made you look stupid lolol

          2. “Neither do attorney generals or county executives”

            Incorrect.

            But hey, you tried.

          3. *attorneys general

          4. Neither do attorney generals or county executives

            Not sure if serious…

    3. NYT shows Trump up by 320K votes with 84% in, and about 1.126M remaining to be counted. Biden would have to win 64% of those to catch Trump in PA.

      1. 65% it is then.

  14. Putting aside your personal feelings of Trump, there is very visibly “funny stuff” going on here, if not outright fraud.

    Some of the late night/early mourning vote dumps for Biden were statistically improbable, if not downright impossible. The fact that some states also feel the need to “pause” their voting is also suspect, though probably not at the heart of the issue.

    Now do I expect SCOTUS to do anything? Not at all. They probably fear the rioters and looters more than maintaining election integrity, and don’t want to be seen as “giving Trump the presidency”.

    Unfortunately, I feel Democrats will get away with their election shenanigans which leads to the question; why should anyone vote of, in the end, your vote only matters of you picked the “approved” candidate?

    1. Absentee ballots heavily favoring Biden were expected to drop later. This was announced clearly many days beforehand.

      1. Not one person expected the 90% numbers they are claiming in Penn and Wisconsin. Most estimates of returns were 60-40 splits.

        1. Depends on the county. Philly was expected to go 80-20 overall (and more skewed for mail-ins), and the big spike was largely from Philly votes.

      2. Absentee ballots were expected to favor Biden in the 60/40 – 70/30 range, depending.

        Some of the late night/early morning dumps Biden received were in the 80/20 – 93/7 range, and were just enough to help him surpass Trump’s lead.

        Sorry, but that doesn’t pass the smell test. Even moreso because it was Milwaukee who had a late night ballot dump in 2018 to oust Walker.

        1. Media estimates of voting results are meaningless. It’s the actual ballots received by the state that matter. That you think something might be shady is irrelevant, it’s the actual ballots that matter.

          If you want to talk about shady shit, talk about the GOP putting up fake ballot boxes.

      3. It appears even you know you cheated.

      4. I’ve bet a large sum that Biden will win the election, as a hedge against the tax increase he will give me. However, it looks like the a republicans will keep the senate, making any court packing or tax increases that much harder. So I’m likely to get both a big bet payoff while keeping the tax cuts and a SCOTUS that doesn’t interpret the constitution with a kaleidoscope, as well as more protection against horrible progressive policy.

        I take it as a win-win-win so far.

        1. I’m stealing this:

          a SCOTUS that doesn’t interpret the constitution with a kaleidoscope

          1. Oregon called and wants that kaleidoscope

    2. “Now do I expect SCOTUS to do anything? Not at all. They probably fear the rioters and looters more than maintaining election integrity, and don’t want to be seen as “giving Trump the presidency”.

      Pretty much how I see it. My guess, based on Bush v. Gore, is that they will defer to whichever state organization runs elections in that state. Who runs that organization, determines where the EVs go.

      So, let’s look at the problem children in this election. I have NV, AZ, MI, WI, PA, GA, and NC as being able to be potentially flipped by litigation. Who runs things in those states?
      Help me if I’m wrong, but it goes: Dem;. MI, WI, PA, NV, right? And GOP; AZ, GA, NC. P

      Plug those in and see your winner. I get 279-259 Biden.

      1. well the AZ GOP didn’t get the job done then

        1. The litigation isn’t done yet. But, I don’t see the courts stepping in where the states have screwed this up.

          Seriously, we manipulate literally trillions of dollars with millions of commercial transactions daily, requiring flawless surety and confidentiality, but we keep screwing up elections this badly? Iraq’s elections happened with less bullshit than this.

    3. Remember all those “you lost, get over it” comments in 2016? Apply those to yourself now, thanks.

      1. It appears you still haven’t gotten over it.

        1. Hey now, he claims he totally isn’t for Biden or Hillary. Just still upset about Hillary and happy for Biden.

          1. I voted for the LP both times.

      2. So, skip any reasonable discussion about election counting issues and just claim victory? Always the Democrat move. Stay classy.

      3. I don’t, citation?

      4. How do you know who won yet, and do you have next weeks lotto numbers?

  15. Isn’t suing the American, way go Trump and empty the RNC coffers of any money left over. They deserve what they get

  16. Seems as though the libertarian headline should be: This Election Needs To Go To The Supreme Court.

    Maybe with some !!!! thrown in.

    The fraud isn’t being disguised at all. And the election nap time fiasco merely highlighted the plan. Don’t point at Trump, point at the truth. And be angry.

  17. Current forecast, 10 AM PST:
    NYT has Biden up 227-213 in EV.
    Trump would need to win 61% of the remaining ballots to flip AZ or WI, so make it Biden up 248-213.
    Biden would need to win 77% of the remaining ballots to flip NC, so call it for Trump (Biden lead 248-228)
    Biden would need 58% of the remaining ballots to flip AK, so call it for Trump (Biden lead 248-231)
    Biden would need 62% of the remaining ballots in GA (could happen but likely won’t) — Biden lead 248-247
    Trump would need 54% of the remaining MI ballots to win it, so give it to Biden: Biden lead 264-247

    That leaves Nevada (6 EVs) and Pennsylvania (20 EVs), and Trump needs both.

    Biden would need only 52% of the remaining ballots to flip PA, so Trump’s lead there is tenuous.

    Trump would need 52% of the remaining ballots to win Nevada, so you’re saying there’s a chance….

    1. Oops mistake: Trump lead is huge in PA

      1. Biden would need 67% of the remaining ballots to flip PA. Call it for Trump. So it’s likely 267-264 for Trump right now, with Nevada to decide it.

        1. I am starting to think that Trump is going to win PA and then flip either Nevada or Arizona. It is coming out that a bunch of Republican votes were not counted because the polls told them to use sharpies rather than ball point pens. Well that is a mistake that is easy to fix and will be fixed. The Trump people keep claiming that they are going to win Arizona and I am starting to think they might be right. And Trump’s lead in PA is so big that I don’t think even the Philly vote fraud machine can overcome it.

          1. If that is the case, those ballots should be counted, of course. As should all other ballots that people are trying to throw out on a technicality.

            1. Depends on the “technicality”. If the ballot is a mail in and is signed by a dead person or by someone who voted in person as well, that is a pretty significant “technicality”.

        2. If the ballot trends continue, Biden should win PA when all the votes are counted. But we shall see.

          1. Trump’s lead is enormous though. Like I have said before, anyone who thinks they know which side is going to win is fooling themselves. Who the fuck knows at this point.

            The media is so dishonest, you can’t trust any of the information you get. So, I don’t see how anyone not really close to the campaigns and what is actually going on on the ground can have an intelligent opinion either way.

  18. Trump – STOP COUNTING VOTES WHILE I’M AHEAD!

  19. The problem is that the Democrats set up the mail in voting to not just cheat but more importantly for them to be able to claim any Trump victory was illegitimate and the result of voter suppression. The people on the right who are claiming that it is the end of the Republic if Biden wins via fraud have it backwards. Presidents have won by fraud before in close elections and the Republic survived. The threat to the Republic is Biden losing and half the country thinking he was cheated. You can’t have a Republic when one side won’t recognize any election they don’t win. And that is what we have right now with Democrats.

    I am not particularly worried about Biden winning now that I know the Republicans will control the Senate. Biden isn’t going to accomplish shit without the Senate. He isn’t even going to be able to undo much of the deregulation that Trump accomplished. Contrary to what the media tells you, you don’t just wave a wand and publish a regulation. There is a whole process of public comment that any regulation has to go through. It takes months or even years. It is ten times easier to vacate a regulation than it is to write a new one. And on top of that, the regulation has to be signed by a Secretary level official, meaning appointed by the President and approved by the Senate. If the Republicans control the Senate, they can just refuse to approve Biden’s cabinet officials or insist the more important ones be Republicans. With those, every single regulation he dreams of imposing has to go to the White House for his signature, which is a complete nightmare to accomplish. With a now friendly court system and control of the Senate, Republicans will tie any Biden administration up in knots.

    And Biden is a moron. After he is President, the media will no longer be able to cover up his declining faculties and corruption. Within six months the Democrats will be desperate to get him out of office. But, I doubt they will be able to do that without the help of Republican who if they were smart wouldn’t give it. And I don’t care how old and senile and unpopular Biden is, that old fucker would never leave the Presidency voluntarily.

    Long term, the Democrats seeing delegitimizing elections as a political strategy is a much bigger problem than anything that doddering old crook would ever do as President.

    1. Biden will have millions of more votes than Trump. If Trump supporters think it was cheated, then it must be a Wednesday. They believe all sorts of dumb shit.

      It sure would be nice if, in addition to dealing with unemployment, coronavirus, climate change, criminal justice, and repairing the US’s global reputation, we didn’t also have to worry about half the country being radicalized rightwing dumbfucks, but I guess you guys just enjoy being useless.

      1. No he won’t. Not the votes that count. The system is electoral votes. You are just doing exactly what I am talking about which is claiming any election your side doesn’t win is illegitimate. Here you are doing it by trying to change the rules after the fact.

        You can’t have a Republic with people like you Tony. Elections mean the other side wins sometimes too and you have to accept that. And you are clearly unable to do that.

        1. “Elections mean the other side wins sometimes too and you have to accept that.”

          Agreed. Make this an ass-kicking as was forecast, or that Romney received in 2012, and OK, I guess the US is Socialist now. What can you do?

          Cheat a close one through, and you’re not being a good person by accepting it right away. You’re being a chump.

          Though Collins will be essential for Committee Chair Appointments, I would be very cautious about counting her as an R vote to stop things in the Senate. She went from being forecasted to lose that seat by 10-15 points, to being up by 5-6 now. That’s weird. Again, I urge that we don’t start patting ourselves on the backs about saving the Senate, until the final votes come in, (and the court cases end.)

          1. an incumbent Senator winning reelection isn’t weird, it’s what they call in the trade a stone cold lock.

            1. Yeah, normally, but when every, and I mean every, poll up to election day had her losing by 10 to 15 points? Polling sucks, it’s 2020, I get it.

              Just don’t rely on Collins to save the day.

        2. Elections mean other side wins too. not in California where only one side gets to run just like in Russia & Cuba etc

        3. I am accepting that, you are the one who isn’t.

      2. https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-won-heavily-latino-texas-border-county-he-lost-to-clinton-by-huge-margin/

        And what are you going to do about the Democrats’ Hispanic problem? If Biden somehow wins, it will only be because there were just enough old white people in the suburbs to save him. I have been told for a very long time now that depending on white people to win elections is a losing game as demographics change.

        Why are Democrats so racist against Hispanics?

        1. And what are you going to do about the Democrats’ Hispanic problem? If Biden somehow wins, it will only be because there were just enough old white people in the suburbs to save him. I have been told for a very long time now that depending on white people to win elections is a losing game as demographics change.

          After 5 years of hysterics about Trump being hopelessly racist and the vanguard for a resurgence of white supremacy/nationalism, he may be reelected on improvements in minority support. I find that fitting.

          His further decline among educated white people is yet more evidence that anti-racism (both formal and informal) is more an exercise in white self abasement than anything else.

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            His further decline among educated white people is yet more evidence that anti-racism (both formal and informal) is more an exercise in white self abasement than anything else.

            Agreed. This whole anti-racism nonsense is a movement by and for educated white people, not minorities they claim to champion.

            It’s also proof that education and intelligence are not related in any meaningful way.

            1. It will go away once you people stop basing your social and immigration agendas on obvious racism.

    2. I’ve bet a large sum that Biden will win the election, as a hedge against the tax increase he will give me. However, it looks like the a republicans will keep the senate, making any court packing or tax increases that much harder. So I’m likely to get both a big bet payoff while keeping the tax cuts and a SCOTUS that doesn’t interpret the constitution with a kaleidoscope, as well as more protection against horrible progressive policy.

      I take it as a win-win-win so far.

    3. And Biden is a moron.

      The Democrats would drop Biden as soon as it’s convenient, and take a victory lap for getting the first actual prostitute into the presidency, albeit unelected.

      The hazard here is what Willie Brown’s whore can do with executive orders. She’s evil, not stupid.

      -jcr

  20. It wouldn’t be 2020 without an attempted coup by the president.

    If you’re befuddled by the fact that large numbers of late-counted absentee ballots are shifting state races, you should have been paying by attention to more sober mainstream media sources who were telling you that was going to happen.

    1. attention to more sober mainstream media sources who were telling you that was going to happen.

      Now THAT is a collection of words and syllables that’s hard to take seriously.

      1. You know, the same people who said Biden was ahead by 12 points and this was going to be a blue wave election on par with 08. The serious and sober sources.

        If Tony didn’t exist, we would have to invent him.

        1. No shit.

          What I found most gratifying in all of this is the tears being spilled in the NYT comments that it WASN’T a blue wave that would be a landslide victory for Biden, and that they didn’t take the senate. To them this election is just more proof that America is unredeemable. It was obvious to them that T is a “disaster” and that no one could rightly vote for him after these last 4 years.

          No introspection. No, “maybe I’m not on the pulse of anything outside of NYC.” Nada. Just disappointment that T even still has a shot to win.

  21. Look to 2024.

    It’s over.

    It’s suspicious and he’s in his right to ask for recounts and make sure these votes are legit but not sure that will turn out. It’s weird WI and MI but seriously, if they chose a D then so be it.

    Hope they hold the Senate. They made some House gains. Biden is going to be one helluva weak Executive.

    2024.

    1. I think the Democratic fraud was crude and haphazard. I don’t think they expected to have to cheat as much as they did. So, I wouldn’t discount the legal challenges.

      1. You’re really intend on carrying this “fraud” water for Trump, aren’t ya?

        1. Every vote must count. You seem eager to call it. Let it play out if you’re not afraid.

      2. I say go at it. Hillary told Biden to not concede under no circumstances so why should Trump if foul play is suspected?

        He just needs ONE state to go red and he’s in a good spot so why not fight it?

        1. The Dems have been openly game-planning for weeks that they wouldn’t accept any result other than a declared Biden win. It’s idiocy to expect that Trump wouldn’t do the same in such shady circumstances and when the votes are this close; the only difference here is the media will carry the Dems’ water.

          1. There are plenty of shady circumstances and they all have to do with Trump trying to cheat. He sabotaged the post office for God’s sake. Why don’t you ask yourself why you support these people.

            If it’s because you’re opposing Maoism, you’ve been lied to about what Democrats support. If it’s because you like shitting on brown people and grabbing unwilling pussy, that just means you’re a terrible person.

            1. If it’s because you’re opposing Maoism, you’ve been lied to about what Democrats support.

              Statements by Democratic politicians, Democratic-supporting global megacorps, and Democratic-voting academics, along with months of property destruction and murders by Democratic voters, indicate otherwise.

            2. If it’s because you like shitting on brown people and grabbing unwilling pussy, that just means you’re a terrible person.

              Bitch, my skin’s darker than yours. If you really hate yourself that much for being born with the original sin of whiteness, do yourself and the world a favor and gargle with some accelerated buckshot. This simping for non-white asspats is really quite sad.

    2. It’s his weakness that concerns me. The only conspiracy theory I’m buying into is that there will be a whisper campaign started within the next year that Biden isn’t fit to remain president, and it will be started by his own party and inner sanctum. Then Republicans who simply want to “pwn the libs” will get on board and it will become a bipartisan effort to install Kamala Harris as President.

      1. What scares me is the fucking totalitarian left saying to our faces that they are totalitarians who will cheat to win this election, then doing it in front of our faces with barely any effort to hide it, and their declared intent to control every aspect of our lives.
        Re-education camps, supreme court packing (Chavez style), property confiscation – these aren’t dog whistles, they’re explicit policy proposals.

        1. People are acting like totalitarian 2020 didn’t actually happen.

        2. You’re paranoid and insane. Stop consuming rightwing media. It makes you stupid and it’s going to ruin this county.

  22. Good that is where it belongs now that democrats are exposed as the corrupt lying party they are.

  23. I have to wonder how much the court can really do here? Will there really be that many votes that are delivered after Nov. 4th with no postmark? I don’t think either side really sees this as the big number. It certainly should not be for Democrats who were very emphatic that ballots should be deliver directly to official ballot boxes or election officials, and not mailed. The big number are the absentee ballots that were delivered on time but are not yet counted. I cannot see how SCOTUS would or would want to stop that count.

    1. Will there really be that many votes that are delivered after Nov. 4th with no postmark?

      As many as Joe needs, and not one more, obviously.

      -jcr

  24. https://twitter.com/Data_Orbital/status/1324045286537273346

    This breakdown is inline with what we are estimating and why we believe
    @realDonaldTrump
    will carry AZ. These ballots are heavily Republican and will break in his favor. We estimate about 500k outstanding ballots. #Election2020 #ElectionTwitter #AZ
    Quote Tweet

    Vaughn Hillyard
    @VaughnHillyard
    · 1h
    And we have an update on estimated # of Arizona early ballots left to be processed from some counties:

    Gila: ~2300
    Graham: ~1100
    Greenlee 652
    La Paz: 880
    Maricopa: At least 250k
    Pima: ~92k
    Pinal: ~62k
    Santa Cruz: ~3k
    Yavapai: ~10k
    Yuma: ~19k

    1. To clarify, many of the mail-in-ballots are actually dropped off at the poll stations. Many people do this. I saw a couple people do it yesterday while I voted and I’ve done it in the past.

      I don’t know if this will break hard enough for Trump or not; but I think it’s BS that the media called AZ so early.

      1. Honestly, it’s BS that they call any of the states as early as they do, except maybe California and New York.

  25. “As votes in Michigan continue to be counted, the presidential race in the state remains extremely tight as we always knew it would be. President Trump’s campaign has not been provided with meaningful access to numerous counting locations to observe the opening of ballots and the counting process, as guaranteed by Michigan law. We have filed suit today in the Michigan Court of Claims to halt counting until meaningful access has been granted. We also demand to review those ballots which were opened and counted while we did not have meaningful access. President Trump is committed to ensuring that all legal votes are counted in Michigan and everywhere else.”

    – Bill Stepien, Trump 2020 campaign manager

  26. AP just called WI for Biden. Yet, Trump has larger leads in NC and GA and they’re not calling those states for Trump. The media is just embarrassing themselves. I hope WI and/or AZ end up flipping to Trump just to repudiate the media and their BS.

    1. NYT just called Michigan for Trump.
      and even they haven’t called AZ yet.

      1. I mean Michigan for Biden of course (checks mail in ballots)

        1. Assuming Trump holds on in PA, NC, GA and AK, and Biden wins AZ and NV, it will be 270-268 Biden. Blue Wave!

          1. Nevada says they won’t have results until Thursday morning. Funny that the entire election could be hinging on Nevada of all places.

            I still think AZ tightens up. I’m really surprised AZ isn’t a tighter race. There just wasn’t much Biden enthusiasm here. Maybe the Dem ground game was really good in the “right” neighborhoods to get folks filling out mail-in ballots. I hope they post the results tonight.

            PA probably takes another day to finish counting, as well.

  27. Sorry, Trump.
    Republicans are not allowed to appeal anything trivial like voter fraud in an election.
    But only politically correct democrats like Al Gore can go to the SCOTUS to appeal.

    1. Republicans are not allowed to appeal anything trivial like voter fraud in an election.

      Tricky Dick really let his side down when he let Joe Kennedy steal that first election from him.

      -jcr

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