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Reason Roundup

No Murder Charges in Breonna Taylor Case; Protests Erupt Across U.S.

Plus: Hong Kong activist Joshua Wong arrested, "the futile quest for hard numbers on child sex trafficking," and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 9.24.2020 9:36 AM

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People around the United States took to the streets last night to memorialize Breonna Taylor and to protest a Kentucky grand jury's decision not to indict three Louisville police officers for shooting her to death.

On Wednesday—six months after Kentucky cops executed a no-knock raid warrant at Taylor's home in the middle of the night—a grand jury decided that criminal charges should be brought against only one of the officers involved in Taylor's death. But rather than indict Louisville Metro Police Department (LMPD) Detective Brett Hankison for a charge related to killing Taylor, the jury decided to indict him on three counts of wanton endangerment in the first degree "for endangering her neighbors with wild shots," as C.J. Ciaramella noted here yesterday.

Hankison was booked Wednesday and then quickly released on bail, and Louisville's mayor ordered a curfew.

Welcome to Louisville. This used to be our downtown tourist trap. pic.twitter.com/ZqfsWPnoki

— Ryan Van Velzer (@RyanVanVelzer) September 23, 2020

Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said the officers broke no law in killing Taylor, since her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, had fired his gun at the strange men who broke down his girlfriend's door while the couple was sleeping. "According to Kentucky law, the use of force[…] was justified to protect themselves," Cameron said.

Cameron also insists that the operation wasn't a no-knock raid. Walker maintains otherwise.

Cameron intentionally misled the public. And now this is going to be the narrative on the right going forward. It's a narrative that blames Kenneth Walker, a decent man who is innocent, for the death of the woman he loved. It's not just wrong. It's also deeply unfair to him. https://t.co/hnJqghG0oq

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) September 24, 2020

Some people suggest we can't know who's telling the truth here about the police announcing themselves, since both Walker's culpability and that of the police both hinge on this contested fact. And yet Walker's actions are consistent with this story—he called 911 saying someone had broken into this house and shot his girlfriend.

Meanwhile, the cops' application for a search warrant specifically says they are "requesting a no-knock entry to the premises."

What's up, y'all? On May 13 at 2:10 p.m. (EST), I requested a copy of the #BreonnaTaylor warrant from the Jefferson Circuit Court Clerk. They sent this, I spent ≈10 minutes redacting personal info, and then linked to my story. Share w/ the grifters and gaslighters in your feed. pic.twitter.com/zVcIEJk3Au

— Zuri Davis ???? (@ProperlyZuri) September 24, 2020

Only one of a dozen of Taylor's apartment building neighbors said they may have heard the cops announce themselves before shots rang out.

Kenneth Walker's attorney on CNN: The one witness Cameron said heard the police announce themselves initially claimed they did not. It took two more interviews before he said he may have heard them announce one time. Again, 11 other neighbors did *not* hear an announcement.

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) September 24, 2020

And even that neighbor's tale is somewhat suspect, as criminal justice reporter and Rise of the Warrior Cop author Radley Balko points out.

If the Louisville police did decide—contra their search warrant—to announce themselves, then they obviously didn't do it in a manner that was sufficient for Walker and Taylor to understand what was happening.

"I've been covering this stuff for nearly 20 years," Balko tweeted. "I'll never get over the ease with which cops go barreling into homes based on little, shoddy, or dirty information. It's an insanely dangerous act with no margin for error and little to no consequences when someone dies."

The essential backdrop to Taylor's death and the system's response is that things like this keep happening across the country. That doesn't diminish blame for the particular police and government actors in this case, but it does indict a much broader system of reckless, unnecessary, and unaccountable policing, the absence of government checks and balances on that power, as well as the terrible laws and incentives that prompt this kind of policing in the first place.

"Until states ban the use of forced entry warrants for alleged drug crimes, we will continue to see more Breonna Taylors," commented Lauren Krisai, senior policy analyst at the Justice Action Network. "There's no public safety justification for allowing officers to forcibly enter someone's home to enforce drug laws, even if they announce themselves beforehand."

Protests over the grand jury's decision yesterday were sizeable in Louisville as well as Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, Portland, Seattle, Washington, D.C., and elsewhere.

Easily 1000 protesters in NY blocking traffic in both directions as they cross the Manhattan Bridge. Someone yells at the double decker tourist bus, "Welcome to New York!" pic.twitter.com/rc4buwc8X9

— Rachel Olding (@rachelolding) September 24, 2020

Outside the Barclays Center in Brooklyn tonight @CBSNewYork #BreonnaTaylor pic.twitter.com/cWXA5bX2vF

— Ali Bauman (@AliBaumanTV) September 23, 2020

Protesters march in #Oakland during a demonstration following a Kentucky grand jury's decision not to charge any police officers with Breonna Taylor's killing. pic.twitter.com/fKQ3ZHdTxF

— San Francisco Chronicle (@sfchronicle) September 24, 2020

Philly protesters take a knee, fists up, for Breonna Taylor pic.twitter.com/IVkfcRBIXS

— Oona Goodin-Smith (@oonagoodinsmith) September 24, 2020

PHOTOS: Atlanta protests after Breonna Taylor grand jury decision https://t.co/rZhHUO5yGE pic.twitter.com/vz9NWal9O2

— Atlanta Journal-Constitution (@ajc) September 24, 2020

In a number of cities, police "deployed chemical agents" at crowds and ordered protesters to disperse. Police also arrested and charged protesters and journalists covering the protests.

At least 10 arrests tonight in ATL, some very violent. We're working to identify everyone and get them free. As always please contribute to https://t.co/8yXu1APLfz to help us keep up the support! pic.twitter.com/AFoTSbtVeZ

— Atlanta Jail Support (@jail_support) September 24, 2020

Police speakers in downtown Portland can be heard advising the crowd to leave the area which is now closed. A riot was declared. MORE: https://t.co/9uZ6EsooFi https://t.co/cbQnQkqfhV

— KATU News (@KATUNews) September 24, 2020

Leave the area now and exit the street. Failure to adhere to this order may subject you to arrest, citation, or the use of crowd control agents including, but not limited to, impact weapons and/or OC munitions (Oleoresin Capsicum). Leave now.

— Portland Police (@PortlandPolice) September 24, 2020

Two fires are happening now near Jefferson Square, one is in a trash can. Police have deemed this an unlawful protest and asked protesters to leave @WLKY #BreonnaTaylor pic.twitter.com/fVTwh7BBNu

— Shaquille Lord WLKY (@Shaquille_Lord) September 23, 2020

Officers have deployed pepper spray after protestors cut security cameras at the East Precinct. Protestors have moved into Cal Anderson Park. Safe exit from the park is to the West and North.

— Seattle Police Department (@SeattlePD) September 24, 2020

In Louisville, two police officers were shot and wounded while investigating gunshots in an area where police were corralling protesters and targeting them with pepper balls.

"Interim Louisville Police Chief Robert Schroeder said a suspect was in custody but did not offer details about whether that person was participating in the demonstrations," reports AP:

He says both officers are expected to recover, and one is undergoing surgery. He says the officers were shot after investigating reports of gunfire at an intersection where there was a large crowd.

Several shots rang out as protesters in downtown Louisville tried to avoid police blockades, moving down an alleyway as officers lobbed pepper balls, according to an Associated Press journalist. People covered their ears, ran away and frantically looked for places to hide. Police with long guns swarmed the area, then officers in riot gear and military-style vehicles blocked off roadways.

Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear is asking for Louisville police to release investigative evidence in the Taylor case.

It's fucked up this has to be requested https://t.co/iRjcWL75EX

— jack (@jack) September 24, 2020


FREE MINDS

Hong Kong activist Joshua Wong was arrested. He's reportedly charged with violating an anti-mask law… in a city where masks are now mandatory.

#BREAKING Joshua is arrested when reporting to Central Police Station at about 1pm today. The arrest is related to participating in an unauthorized assembly on 5Oct last year. He is told to have violated the draconian anti-mask law as well.

— Joshua Wong 黃之鋒 ???? (@joshuawongcf) September 24, 2020

From The Washington Post:

Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam tried to ban face coverings at public gatherings last year, a move she hoped would quell unrest on the streets but instead added fuel to the pro-democracy movement and charges that she was abusing her power. A court later ruled that the mask ban, which was enacted using colonial-era emergency powers, was partially unconstitutional.

Since the pandemic, Hong Kong has enacted laws mandating that residents wear masks in all public places to curb the spread of the coronavirus.


FREE MARKETS

Checking in on the TikTok deal. From TechCrunch:

The September 20 deadline for a purported TikTok sale has already passed, but the parties involved have yet to settle terms on the deal. ByteDance and TikTok's bidders Oracle and Walmart presented conflicting messages on the future ownership of the app, confusing investors and users. Meanwhile, Beijing's discontent with the TikTok sale is increasingly obvious.

China has no reason to approve the "dirty" and "unfair" deal that allows Oracle and Walmart to effectively take over TikTok based on "bullying and extortion," slammed an editorial published Wednesday in China Daily, an official English-language newspaper of the Chinese Communist Party.


QUICK HITS

• "Caring about children doesn't mean sharing lurid memes about the monster lurking around the corner. It means being honest about what truly puts children at risk — even if the solution requires doing something we should have done years ago": at HuffPost, "You're Wrong About" podcaster Michael Hobbes takes a very good and thorough look at "the futile quest for hard numbers on child sex trafficking."

• More research casts doubt on the idea that many people with COVID-19 will not develop symptoms.

• Florida reacts to Democrats raising money to pay off court fines and fees that are preventing people from being allowed to vote:

If I understand the state of Florida's position here, it is: "These fines have nothing to do with voting, so they can't be a poll tax. But if you help people pay them off, you're interfering illegally in an election." https://t.co/s6DFO3e2Cu

— Jesse Walker (@notjessewalker) September 23, 2020

• Ann Arbor, Michigan, lawmakers just voted to decriminalize psychedelic plants.

• Maine will try ranked-choice voting in the presidential general election!

• A new poll from The New York Times and Siena College shows President Donald Trump "on the defensive in three red states he carried in 2016, narrowly trailing Joseph R. Biden Jr. in Iowa and battling to stay ahead of him in Georgia and Texas, as Mr. Trump continues to face a wall of opposition from women that has also endangered his party's control of the Senate."

• The Los Angeles Times editorial board rejects California's Prop 22, "which would classify drivers for app-based services such as Uber and Lyft as independent contractors but guarantee them certain benefits."

• A good explainer on some of the problems with the Department of Justice's proposal to amend Section 230, from Julian Sanchez of the Cato Institute. Start here:

Here's an irrational thing about the assault on §230 that I haven't seen emphasized enough. You can't actually forbid platforms employing their judgment to curate (or "censor") content. That's protected by the 1st Amdt, not §230. So nobody who knows anything is arguing that.

— Julian Sanchez (@normative) September 23, 2020

• Andrew Yang has joined the Joe Biden presidential campaign, making him the eighth former Democratic presidential candidate to do so.

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  1. Illocust   5 years ago

    "The Los Angeles Times editorial board rejects California's Prop 22, "which would classify drivers for app-based services such as Uber and Lyft as independent contractors but guarantee them certain benefits."" Tie journalist rights to the rights of other workers and this shit would stop. Instead of trying to make an exception to the law for Uber and Lyft drivers, rescind the exception that journalists were given by the state. Push a Prop out that says as long as the law stands Journalists must be held to its most strict regulation and can't be excluded from it without rescinding the law in its entirety.

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      What?!? Equal treatment under the law? That's not justice!

    2. Anomalous   5 years ago

      +Googolplex

    3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

      +4 estates

    4. Knutsack   5 years ago

      I'm curious if editorial boards really have much sway. Does anyone really care what is written on the editorial pages? And by "care", I mean, can an editorial page change anyone's opinion? Papers are seem as either right or left and agreed with or dismissed based on a reader's preconceived opinion. Or an I wrong about that?

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

        Before the clickbait wars of the internet, there used to be these things called 'journalistic standards' where opinions were printed on the editorial pages and the rest of the journal was supposed to be fact based and unbiased. Today, it is one big editorial page.

        Proof? "Mostly Peaceful Fiery Protests"

    5. Gaear Grimsrud   5 years ago

      Journolists are a super special class of citizens. Says so right in the constitution.

  2. Jerryskids   5 years ago

    Let's remember who the real victims are in the Breonna Taylor case.

    1. Anomalous   5 years ago

      Blue Lies Matter.

    2. Don Henley   5 years ago

      Pretty gauche of him to bring that up while murderous thugs were causing millions of dollars of property damage and shooting 3 cops.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    Andrew Yang has joined the Joe Biden presidential campaign...

    Gimme that thousand smackers!

    1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

      Lol, of course he did.

    2. CE   5 years ago

      A thousand a month is chicken feed. They expect an extra 2400 a month on top of the unemployment checks, plus rent forgiveness.

      1. Echo Chamber   5 years ago

        Plus free college, plus free health care, plus ...

  4. JesseAz   5 years ago

    Caveat: I am against no knock raids. I am against early morning raids. But I am also against disinformation.

    Per Grand Jury material publicly available:

    Matt Walsh
    @MattWalshBlog
    Everything you’re hearing about Breonna Taylor is a lie. It was not a no knock warrant. They did announce. The boyfriend fired first. And by the way, Breonna was apparently involved in her ex boyfriend’s drug enterprise. All of this info has been publicly available for weeks.

    The ex boyfriend said in jailhouse phone calls that Taylor was handling his cash and had thousands of dollars in drug money in her apartment

    Let’s walk through the steps. Officers obtain a legal warrant. Officers act on said warrant. Officers announce themselves. Officers enter residence. Officers return fire once fired upon.

    Where in this series of events does a crime occur — much less a racist execution?

    There is no excuse for the police shootings, the arson, or the assaults (cop hit in the head with a metal bad in Seattle).

    Most of the Taylor narrative is false. It is leading to the up rise in anger.

    Should she be dead? No. Should her death be made worse through false narratives? No.

    1. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      Well, most of the Breonna Taylor narrative is false, according to the cops. Just because the cops say it doesn't make it true. It was a no-knock warrant and whether or not the cops announced themselves first is a disputed fact. Not to mention which, announcing yourself to sleeping people might not make for a very good announcement. There's no disputing the fact that they shot and killed Breonna Taylor and all the talk about what a hateful bitch she was doesn't excuse executing her on the spot.

      1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

        It doesn't, but it does make the inevitable rioting less justifiable.

      2. Minneapolis Mile   5 years ago

        It doesn't? Why do we need to mourn hateful bitches?

        1. ByteRot   5 years ago

          Look. A cop's job is to bring a suspect in to face trial, so justice can be served by a jury of their peers. And that justice is almost never execution. The cop certainly isn't the executioner -- in Kentucky, the death penalty may only be administered by lethal injection; we don't even shoot convicts handed the death penalty.

          So the job of the cop is to bring them to trial. Any failure to do so is the cop FAILING AT THEIR JOB. I don't care if it's self defense -- they fucked up if they shot somebody. We need to stop pretending a cop's job is to "get the bad guy." That's screwed up in so many ways: a) when we ask a cop to arrest someone, we don't even know if they're "bad" because they're still just a suspect; b) we (ostensibly) believe in innocence until proven guilty [in a court of law, not on some cop's say-so]; c) the reason we require undeniable proof is because it's better to let a whole bunch of guilty folks go free than to imprison one innocent, so if that's the case, how does that not apply to letting suspects (who *might* be guilty) get away rather than risking killing an innocent?

          We've let the cops and those who profit off of the public's fear of crime shape the narrative and glorify "getting the bad guy" to excuse them from doing bad jobs. And it needs to stop.

      3. JesseAz   5 years ago

        your evidence is contradictory. You state announcing to sleeping people but then point to a dispute a knock. If neighbors were sleeping would they hear the knock?

        Matt is just pointing to the material as presented to the grand jury. A dispute would go to a defense in that case.

      4. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

        It is called reasonable doubt. The defense just has to argue that there is reasonable doubt that this was a no knock raid. The prosecutors have to argue that the cops didn't announce themselves beyond reasonable doubt and that the warrant was obtained on bad or no evidence. The defense will surely produce the witness who says they knocked on the door and announced themselves as cops, as well as the recorded phone call from Taylor's boyfriend in which he states they did announce themselves, as well as Taylor's past association with the drug trade. Getting anything more than what has been charged is dubious at best.

        1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

          Even cops get the Assumption of innocent until proven guilty. And they sophomoric rejoinder why should they ad they don't give others the same presumption is just asinine, and frankly scary. If we don't give the presumption of innocence to everyone than eventually no one will have that presumption.

      5. JeffH   5 years ago

        They weren't in bed is the latest I've heard.

        1. Syd Henderson   5 years ago

          Don't believe everything you hear.

        2. damikesc   5 years ago

          I also heard they were in the hallway, not in bed.

          But I don't expect Reason to fact check...anything.

    2. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      Should drugs of any kind be illegal? No.

      1. phillhamian   5 years ago

        That's the part of this whole outrage business I don't get. Taylor's race doesn't hold any interest to me. She's another victim of our absurd drug laws, just like Duncan Lemp. Did reason even bother covering that one?

        What if our collective feelings about skin color took a back seat to stating the obvious? End the drug war now and this never would have happened. Cops are mostly morons with guns and badges and that isn't going to change any time soon. So just stop giving these morons opportunities to do dumb shit by passing needless laws.

        1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

          Yes the party that wants to "defund the police" also keeps calling for more laws and regulations that have to be enforced by the police. If you really want justice reform you need to start dismantling victimless crime laws.

          1. phillhamian   5 years ago

            That's how you know the left isn't serious, and neither are their foot soldiers (including the useful idiots). They don't want to even marginally reduce state power, they just want control over the state. It's so cynical and obvious, but yet publications like Reason still insist that leftists are well intentioned.

            1. ElvisIsReal   5 years ago

              1000000000000000%

            2. Dillinger   5 years ago

              this

      2. WuzYoungOnceToo   5 years ago

        Should drugs of any kind be illegal? No.

        But are some/many of them? Yes. Those involved made their decisions based on what the current reality is, not on what you, I or anyone else thinks it ought to be.

    3. Weigel's Cock Ring   5 years ago

      All this, and Walsh didn’t even mention that a guy was murdered in a rental car that was rented out in her name.

      As you said, it doesn’t mean she deserves to be dead, but it’s another strong piece of evidence that, far from being some completely innocent victim, she was fully 100% neck deep in the violent drug gang lifestyle.

      1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

        No, no, no, no, no.

        According to the narrative, all victims of police shootings are saintly black people, who were deliberately singled out after careful planning by the white oppressor state.

        How could it be otherwise?

      2. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

        Do you have any evidence she ever participated in any violence? That would certainly change things, as far as I know all she did was loan people cars and hold money for them.

        She wasn't the subject of any investigation. She wasn't the target of the search warrant that got her killed. If she was, as you claim, a violent gang member the police certainly didn't think so.

        1. WuzYoungOnceToo   5 years ago

          Do you have any evidence she ever participated in any violence?

          The claim was not that she "participated in any violence", but that she was "fully 100% neck deep in the violent drug gang lifestyle. There's a significant difference between directly committing violence yourself and simply being involved in it in other ways. If you provide a weapon to someone you know intends to use it murder someone, and they later carry out that murder, you're certainly involved even though you did not commit any actual violence yourself. Similarly, if you participate in illegal drug dealing activities by handling the cash for those doing the dealing, providing them with transportation used as part of the enterprise, etc...you're involved.

          1. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

            The claim is that she was not an innocent victim.

            Which of those behaviors justified the police response she received? If the answer is "none", she was in fact an innocent victim.

    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 years ago

      So they ex admitted after they arrested him and killed her. Yeah I don't believe jailhouse snitches who have every incentive to lie. Especially when the cops have every incentive to wrap this up. Also did the cops recover said drug money because I didn't see evidence presented that they collected from the scene?

    5. a libertarian   5 years ago

      "But I am also against disinformation"

      lol aside from the obvious leftwing trolls and John you are easily the biggest spreader of lies around here

      1. JesseAz   5 years ago

        You don't even bother trying do you?

    6. De Oppresso Liber   5 years ago

      Pathetic boot licker.

      1. JesseAz   5 years ago

        Stunning analysis as usual good sir.

        1. De Oppresso Liber   5 years ago

          Pathetic boot licker, you get the level of engagement you deserve.

          You repeat as fact the story of one felon who was offered leniency if, and only if, he named Breonna Taylor as a co-defendant. You repeat as fact the lies of cops who have already been caught lying about the existence of body cameras during the raid.

          You are a pathetic boot licker. There is nothing else left to say.

        2. De Oppresso Liber   5 years ago

          https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/908625259/prosecutors-plea-offer-alleged-breonna-taylor-was-part-of-organized-crime-syndic

    7. CE   5 years ago

      Well, it was a no-knock warrant they applied for, even if they briefly knocked before bashing in the door at 2 AM.

      And the crime occurred when a law was passed banning buying and selling stuff.

    8. Ron   5 years ago

      In my town there have been several instance of people claiming to be police and knocking down doors only to rob them, mainly happening to the pot growers. So even if it were real cops i would be hesitant to open doors and i would definately be looking for real cop cars with lights, other wise I wouldn't trust anyone claiming to be a cop especially if you are dealing with drugs and have lots of cash around

  5. Jerryskids   5 years ago

    More research casts doubt on the idea that many people with COVID-19 will not develop symptoms.

    So is Yahoo News now banned from Twitter and Facebook for spreading disinformation on the coronavirus? You can't just go talking about shit that goes against the official narrative as per the CDC and the WHO, you know.

    1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      Turns out all CV information is disinformation. Especially from the CDC.

      1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

        Turns out we are all living in a really bad made-for-TV movie, and have been since TV was invented.

        1. CE   5 years ago

          not a TV show, an ancestor simulation. and most of us are non-playing characters.

          1. Nardz   5 years ago

            The Illiad has always been right

      2. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

        Here, two top Montreal doctors have basically said things that ran against the narrative. This gave courage to a Univ. of Ottawa professor to do the same.

        But the government went after one of the doctors - Dr. Rosenberg - attempting to discredit him. A lousy, low life politician like Christian Dube deliberately misrepresented Rosenberg while peddling misleading stats.

        It's disgusting what the CAQ (the government) is doing in Quebec.

        Yeh. Sure. I'm going to listen to the clowns at Sante Publique and the Premier and his flunkies over the heads of the Jewish General Hospitals - GROUND ZERO for coronavirus here. Sure. Sssssure.

        These idiots staked their reps on the WRONG HORSE (leading to, among other things, thinking cases matter and masks work) but there's the funny thing: TRUTH AND SCIENCE is finally hitting back.

        Follow the science my ass.

        The various provincial and state governments in North America are peddling fake news, lies, and junk science. May they all one day account for their arrogance and irresponsible and stupid behaviour.

        And they know who they are.

        I'm at the point I personally feel any excess deaths that would otherwise not happen or be prevented if not for malicious restrictions and lockdowns moving forward is ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE LEADERS.

        Sadly, I see the majority of Britons support Johnson's measures.

        Fools.

        1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

          Something bad happened to all the testicles in the UK.

          1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

            Based upon history the North African Muslim nation states routinely castrated white, Christian males they enslaved???

  6. JesseAz   5 years ago

    When a vacancy occurs in a presidential year and the opposition party has a majority in the Senate, the president can nominate, but the nominee is almost never confirmed. There have been 10 such vacancies in the history of the republic. Presidents made pre-Election Day nominations in six cases, but only one nominee was confirmed before the election. That was in 1888.

    Presidents whose parties had Senate majorities selected nominees in election years 19 times, and 17 of those nominees were confirmed.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/whos-violating-norms-these-days

    1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      I thought we were in a new normal now.

      1. Nardz   5 years ago

        It's called civil war

    2. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      How dare you cite facts and actual history! And use numbers! You are nothing but a racist shill!

    3. Jormungand the Midgard Serpent   5 years ago

      To be honest, the "precedent" is largely meaningless to me. The Democrats would be forcing the issue if the roles were reversed, so the bluster is all for show anyway.

    4. KDN   5 years ago

      And the two that were rejected were both LBJ's in '68, which is not a comparable scenario.

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   5 years ago

        Yeah LBJ was a bombastic asshole that wanted to force everyone to do what he wanted when he wanted, and was a president during a time of massive civil unrest and riots! Nothing like today!

        1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

          He was shoveling boys into a war like coal into a furnace.

        2. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

          Well, LBJ's foundation was in political graft, not business graft.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 years ago

            Don't sell him short, the radio deal he got for Lady Bird was both.

        3. KDN   5 years ago

          That's not it. The comparable scenario would be if Trump managed to put a puppet like Giuliani on the Court instead of Gorsuch, and then tried to elevate him to Chief in his last consequential act as a lame duck. Congress was none too pleased.

          I doubt that would shake out the same way today, mainly because Congress currently has little interest in asserting its institutional authority.

    5. CE   5 years ago

      But the Republicans are subverting democracy and seizing power. Democrats must stop them by any means necessary, including, but not limited to, stacking the Court, impeachment, a nationwide strike, mass protests, and threatening mobs surrounding any Republican politicians.

      1. CE   5 years ago

        all to save our democracy, of course

  7. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   5 years ago

    Okay people once again. If a cop does something bad it is better to charge them with something you can prove and convict. If you charge them with murder you have to prove murder (which seeing as how the had a war rent and went to the correct addresses for once) that would be hard to prove

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      Come on. The legal system and rules have nothing to do with JUSTICE.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 years ago

      The judge who signed the warrant should be held accountable. Oh wait their decisions are beyond reproach because, like the pope, when they put on magic robes they become infallible.

      1. ThomasD   5 years ago

        This. If the cops are charged for events that occur pursuant to serving a warrant then the judge, being the sin qua non, should be in the dock as well.

      2. ElvisIsReal   5 years ago

        Yep. If you're not gonna charge the cops you gotta charge the higher-ups.

      3. A Thinking Mind   5 years ago

        It's not just the judge, it's the other officers who sought a no-knock warrant on that address. The officers who served the warrant weren't the ones who obtained it.

        I do think we need accountability on this, but the officers were serving a warrant in a manner that was not only legal, but accepted practice at the time (ie, knock twice and then start bashing down the at 12:40 am). If there's criminals, it's those who decided this is an acceptable police tactic, not those following in their footsteps.

  8. Fats of Fury   5 years ago

    Fart and the world laughs with you, shart and you shart alone.

    1. Axolotl   5 years ago

      Try new "Oops I Crapped My Pants!"

    2. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      No, Nadler didn't shit his pants. I know you think you're just being funny by suggesting he did, but it's not funny that the reason he's shuffling around like he just shit his pants is because that's how fucking old and feeble he is. Why doesn't he retire when he's that old and feeble? For the same reason Ruth Bader Ginsburg and John McCain didn't retire even knowing that they were fucking dying - they couldn't abide the thought of going one single day without power. How fucking sick is that? You know you're dying but rather than retiring and spending your final days enjoying the company of your friends and family, maybe doing something you've always intended to do some day when you had the time, you're determined to hang on to power until the very end because you can't imagine that the Republic can stand without your being there. Jesus Christ, how old and feeble are Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Grassley and Diane Fienstein, Steny Hoyer and Don Young? Get the fuck out of there, go home and enjoy your retirement, let somebody who doesn't personally remember the invention of electricity have a turn in office.

      1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

        Your list of old feebs sounds like justification for the many cultures who at some point had enough of the old geezers, and hit them on the head with a special club, left them on the ice, or something.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 years ago

          And that is why I support lifting the lockdowns. Why get my club all covered in old people goo when I can just let nature (or a Chinese lab) do the work for me.

      2. Fats of Fury   5 years ago

        Nadler is 4 years younger than Biden and 1 year younger than Trump. Incontinence may be a side effect of a gastric bypass. Al Roker pooped himself at the White House.

  9. JesseAz   5 years ago

    New video in support of Kyle Rittenhouse

    https://bearingarms.com/came/2020/09/23/does-new-video-rittenhouse-self-defense/

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   5 years ago

      So bering arms is the only ple to read well thought out fairly coved story. Got it. (note this is not sarcasm the article is really well written and gives a good breakdownn. Thanks for the link)

      1. JesseAz   5 years ago

        Bearing arms has become a great site. They often have well written articles.

      2. Quo Usque Tandem   5 years ago

        Agreed; I hope the preliminary hearing is before November 3rd; more riots = better outcome for those who do not believe the government should fuck with the law abiding especially while it is accommodating rioters.

    2. Ron   5 years ago

      saw that video earlier its 11 min but well worth watching. a certain group of people will probably refuse to view it and my only complaint is they did add dramatic music and made some of the explosions louder than they probably were.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      Just a quick reminder that Kyle Rittenhouse had better directed fire under extreme duress than any of the cops that were involved in Breonna Taylor's death.

      Maybe he needs to be training these dudes on combat arms instead of sitting in jail for plugging commies that were trying to kill him.

  10. PurityDiluting   5 years ago

    A fire in suburbia before dawn destroyed a freshly vandalized residential garage where Donald Trump presidential campaign flags were displayed. It burned down the detached garage and totaled three vehicles inside. Minor damage was done to the house. Officers saw what appeared to be fresh spray paint on the garage that read “Biden 2020,” “BLM” and an “A” with a circle around it.

    The homeowner recalled a troubling experience her husband had about 10 days ago while working in downtown Minneapolis on a construction site. His pickup with the Trump flag was parked nearby, when someone “drove by slowly and took pictures,” she said, and feces was later left at his vehicle when he went on a water break.

    “We live in the greatest country in the world and the greatest thing about America is we have the right to say what we want to say and not be attacked for it, and that’s totally been violated,” Deana added. The couple said this is the first time they’ve ever put a political sign up, and with two small children at home, they say this likely is the last time. “If It’s really because of the flag, I wouldn’t have gotten it. I don’t want to deal with this at all,” Dennis said.

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   5 years ago

      That sucks for them the people that did it a blm. They have some forcefield that protects them from procecutions in blue states

    2. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      But people definitely tell the truth to pollsters, so you can totally believe the numbers.

    3. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      “We live in the greatest country in the world and the greatest thing about America is we have the right to say what we want to say and not be attacked for it"

      What kind of fascist would say this? How dare she contradict the march to Justice (and proscribed speech)?

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

        Let's call it the Long March to Justice. That has a nice ring to it.

    4. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

      “We live in the greatest country in the world and the greatest thing about America is we have the right to say what we want to say and not be attacked for it, and that’s totally been violated,” Deana added.

      Dumb bitch doesn't even know about the hate speech exception to the first amendment. Or that holding any political view to the right of Stalin is considered hate speech. /sarc

    5. JesseAz   5 years ago

      It was mostly peaceful parking.

      1. Griffin3   5 years ago

        No one needs more than two kinds of vehicles.

    6. CE   5 years ago

      right wing agitators, no doubt

    7. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      Those darn white supremacists are at it again.

  11. PurityDiluting   5 years ago

    "Ann Arbor, Michigan, lawmakers just voted to decriminalize psychedelic plants"

    Just in time for the election

    1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      "Now you can experience the world just like Joe Biden does!"

      1. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

        I'm picturing a theme park ride called "The Joe Biden Experience" that's basically just the tripy boat ride from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

        1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

          It closes at noon.

          1. Nardz   5 years ago

            Only on good days.
            Standard hours are 8 am to 9 am.
            Sometimes 8:30 am

        2. Dillinger   5 years ago

          geese everywhere.

  12. John   5 years ago

    Unless I am misunderstanding the facts, and with the media being as bad as it is it is hard to figure out the truth of things, I don't see how murder chargers are in any way warrented in the Taylor case.

    As I understand it, the cops identified themselves. It wasn't a no knock raid. Also, her and her husband were not in waiting in bed but at the door. And her husband fired first wounding one of the cops after they came through the door. Taylor was then killed in the resulting gunfight.

    Even if you assume the warrant was bad for some reason, the cops identified themselves and the husband shot first. That gave the cops a right to self defense. There is no way in hell you can charge them with murder for her death in the resulting gunfight. At most you could charge her husband with felony murder. That would be a stronger charge than the one against the cops.

    I get it that the drug war is terrible. But, charging that cop with murder would have been justice by mob. And if they can screw cops with justice by mob, they can screw anyone.

    I am not sure about the reckless charge. It seems like a real reach. But anyone who thinks the cop should be charged with murder either doesn't know the facts, understand what murder is, or just doesn't give a shit and wants every cop convicted no matter what.

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   5 years ago

      You are aware that justice by mob the the only way they operate right? They don't use facts, logic, morality, law, data, or common sence. They use intimidation, lies, and false claim of victim hood.

    2. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

      "charging that cop with murder would have been justice by mob"

      Populism?
      Giving the people what they want?
      Good political maneuver?

      1. John   5 years ago

        Populism is not the same thing as justice by mob. The criminal justice system is not something that is supposed to be settled by democratic processes the way the political system is.

    3. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

      SAY HER NAME.

      1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   5 years ago

        Beetlejuice!

        1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

          Beetlejuice

          1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

            Beetlejuice

            1. Zombie Joe Biden   5 years ago

              You called?

              1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   5 years ago

                I like you

            2. Under_Pressure   5 years ago
      2. Anomalous   5 years ago

        Bloody Mary.

        1. Nardz   5 years ago

          Hihn!

          1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

            That is a bridge to far.

    4. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      Some people did some things.

    5. MikeT1986   5 years ago

      12 witnesses, 1 may have heard the announcement after multiple interviews.

      That said the problem is likely less the specific cops as the procedure used. Kicking in doors in the middle of the night increases the likelihood of things going violent by a lot.

      Focusing on a specific cop, or if they have racism in their hearts misses the problem of a lot of the procedures being risky, needlessly confrontational, and authoritarian. Training and culture playing a role in that as well.

    6. Jerryskids   5 years ago

      "Procedures were followed".

    7. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 years ago

      It was a no knock warrant, it is in dispute whether the cops sufficiently or even announced themselves. Taylor and her current boyfriend (not husband) were in bed watching TV when they heard a ruckus outside their door (maybe the cops yelling warrant, maybe them just banging on the door). The boyfriend legally armed himself to defend the home as his right. He did fire first when they cops burst through the door from all accounts I saw.

      Its the judges, lawyers and politicians who should hang mostly for working against an individuals right to be secure in their home. The fact is the cops had no evidence of drug dealing in the apartment. Taylor receiving packages/mail for the ex-drug dealing boyfriend while potentially suspicious, that should never be enough to secure a warrant. The cops should never had even requested a warrant on such flimsy evidence, not sure what a good penalty for that is though; it was after all their actions that spurred this shootout.

      1. John   5 years ago

        That is all true. But none of that makes the cop guilty of murder.

      2. A Thinking Mind   5 years ago

        Taylor receiving packages/mail for the ex-drug dealing boyfriend while potentially suspicious, that should never be enough to secure a warrant.

        It may be enough to justify a search of her apartment, actually. But they should actually serve the warrant as if they're a peace officer: knock when the person is at home, announce yourself, and then pull out the warrant and show it to them. And then search for the specific items as listed by the warrant searching only the areas authorized by the warrant.

        It's NOT enough to justify kicking in someone's door.

    8. CE   5 years ago

      except that her husband (boyfriend?) didn't murder anyone.

      1. John   5 years ago

        It is called felony murder. If he tried to murder a cop and his wife ended up dead as they fired back, he is the one guilty of murder.

        How many times does felony murder have to be explained to you dumb asses?

  13. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

    Easily 1000 protesters in NY blocking traffic in both directions as they cross the Manhattan Bridge. Someone yells at the double decker tourist bus, "Welcome to New York!"

    They need more of these protests right up to election day.

  14. Sevo   5 years ago

    As a result of bone-headed 'green' policies, CA's electrical power grid is so fragile and a day of 100* weather in the central valley beings 'rolling blackouts'. Further, Newsom confuses being elected with being crowned:

    "California Governor Signs Order Banning Sales Of New Gasoline Cars By 2035"
    [...]
    "California will phase out the sale of all gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035 in a bid to lead the U.S. in reducing greenhouse gas emissions by encouraging the state's drivers to switch to electric cars...."
    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/916209659/california-governor-signs-order-banning-sales-of-new-gasoline-cars-by-2035

    No, California won't. We don't have enough unicorns to ride.

    1. BYODB   5 years ago

      I'm sure it's just coincidence that it will restrict the travel of the poor to their local area, or where the government decides to let them go via trains.

      And of course they will continue to buy electricity from places that haven't cut the nuts off their own production. That's a given.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

        I’m sure it’s just coincidence that it will restrict the travel of the poor to their local area

        "Only a nobody walks in LA"

        1. Gray_Jay   5 years ago

          Chuck, they've nowhere to go, don't know what to do, don't even know the time of day. I guess it doesn't matter anyway.

          I always got Missing Persons and the Motels confused growing up.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

            The singer for Missing Persons was much hotter. And the message in their music is even more relevant...

            What are words for when no one listens anymore
            What are words for when no one listens
            What are words for when no one listens it's no use talkin' at all

    2. Illocust   5 years ago

      All it means is that people will start purchasing their cars about two inches over the border into a new state. California will ditch the requirement two minutes later when they realize how much tax money is flowing elsewhere.

      1. Earth Skeptic   5 years ago

        Well, that's assuming people will get permits to travel out of state, and approval to spend money from the state banking authority.

      2. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

        Nevada car dealer builds Hummer dealership on California border.

        1. Moonrocks   5 years ago

          Buy a Hummer while getting a hummer?

          1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

            Dude! Sounds like a great investment opportunity, car dealership and legal brothel in one. Throw in a Casino and it is one stop shopping.

            1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

              Then again considering how much sitting on your ass it usually takes when you buy a car, having a brothel and or casino to pass the time could be useful.

            2. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

              Don't forget the pot shop.

              1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

                Has Nevada legalized pot?

                1. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

                  As of 2017 recreational sales are legal there.

                  1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

                    Cool!!!

                  2. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

                    So you can get stoned, buy a car, gamble and visit a prostitute. Sounds like a good time.

                    1. Echo Chamber   5 years ago

                      and crush a car with a tank after shooting off an M-134

            3. Moonrocks   5 years ago

              They have those ABC stores in Nevada. Well, how about an ACC store, Anything you Can't do in California.

              1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

                Well Nevada does have the raiders now...

      3. KDN   5 years ago

        Yeah. Oregon, Nevada and Arizona car dealers must be thrilled with this idea.

        1. Sevo   5 years ago

          Predict whole new towns of motels at the range of the typical electric between SF and LA.

          1. KDN   5 years ago

            "And all rejoiced, from San Simeon to Kettleman City."

            Not sure where you set up for the Vegas traffic. Maybe do a car exchange lot in Primm.

            1. Gray_Jay   5 years ago

              Mind the Fiends at Bison Steve's. Sheriff Meyers is going to want his cut too.
              Amazing that game is 10 years old next month.

              Doesn't the A/C crush battery range, or has that been improved? I have driven Vegas to LA in July without A/C, and it was an experience I would prefer not to repeat.

              1. KDN   5 years ago

                That's a good question. I imagine it would.

                Though let's be honest, at the rate CA is going you won't be allowed to put A/C in a car by 2035.

                I can't believe that it's been nearly a decade and we still have no idea about the next Elder Scrolls. Skyrim might have been the biggest hit of the decade.

              2. Echo Chamber   5 years ago

                Running the heater also crushes the battery range.
                EVs are fair-weather cars

      4. ThomasD   5 years ago

        " people will start purchasing their cars about two inches over the border into a new state."

        Maybe. Or maybe California will refuse to title and/or register those newer model cars. Not so bad if you can claim some sort of residence elsewhere, or register them in another state as a business vehicle. But the average working stiff probably won't be so lucky.

        1. Echo Chamber   5 years ago

          or close all the gas stations

        2. vendacious   5 years ago

          Cali will just do what Florida did years ago and impose a ridiculous fee on vehicles transferred in from out of state

    3. Moonrocks   5 years ago

      Not a problem. Newsome will have a gasoline generator to charge his electric car up.

    4. Illocust   5 years ago

      Oh another way this will be hilariously bad. When this goes into effect Tesla is going to go under as their prices sky rocket. Right now electric car manufacturer's receive massive subsidies from gas manufacturer's. Once the care are no longer being sold into California, they won't need to buy the tithe, and Tesla buyers will have to foot their own bill.

    5. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

      "California will phase out the sale of all gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035 in a bid to lead the U.S. in reducing greenhouse gas emissions by encouraging the state’s drivers to switch to electric cars….”

      Banning the sale of all gasoline powered cars = "encouraging the state’s drivers to switch to electric cars?"

      1. Jerryskids   5 years ago

        Well, the key phrase here is "by 2035". In political terms, that's somewhere off in the distant future, long after the politicians making this pronouncement personally won't give a shit whether or not it happens.

      2. CE   5 years ago

        banning affordable gasoline powered cars = forcing more poor people to take public transit, to make the numbers go up

    6. CE   5 years ago

      and then they blame global warming for the blackouts.

  15. Jerry B.   5 years ago

    The War on Drugs killed Breonna Taylor. Until that’s generally accepted, nothing will change.

    1. ElvisIsReal   5 years ago

      A+

  16. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

    Not content to wait for the American people to vote for Joe Biden and for him to implement the Green New Deal (the voters just can't be trusted), the state of California has decided to start implementing the Green New Deal on its own.

    "California Governor Signs Order Banning Sales Of New Gasoline Cars By 2035"

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/916209659/california-governor-signs-order-banning-sales-of-new-gasoline-cars-by-2035

    2035 happens to be the year that Biden's Green New Deal would have us at 100% emissions free electricity production.

    Adding insult to injury, Newsom did it by executive order--presumably because he can't even get the shitheads in Sacramento to vote for it. I don't remember what became of the states suit to the Trump administration for revoking their ability to set emission standards that are higher than the EPA's, but this is precisely the kind of regulation that the Trump administration was trying to get ahead of when they challenged California's ability to regulate the auto industry.

    Gavin Newsom is effectively inflicting the Green New Deal on the rest of the country--and he isn't even using the California state legislature to do it. He's doing it with executive orders as the Governor of California.

    1. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

      Just for reference:

      "California and a coalition of other states filed another lawsuit against the Trump administration Friday challenging its move to revoke their ability to set tougher auto emissions standards than the federal government.

      California was joined by 22 other states, Washington, D.C., and the cities of Los Angeles and New York in the suit challenging the administration’s September move to take away the state’s ability to set stricter emissions rules as part of an ongoing attack on government efforts to clean air pollution and fight climate change. It’s the latest jab in the legal battle between California and other like-minded states as they try to stymie Trump’s push to weaken a host of environmental regulations."

      ----Los Angeles Times, November 15, 2019

      https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-11-15/california-trump-administration-lawsuit-auto-emissions-climate-change

      1. Illocust   5 years ago

        If we are lucky this will actually mean that California loses its ability to control the auto industry. Californians have nothing against hypocrisy and will happily purchase cars elsewhere when the electrics are too expensive and unreliable. Which means that California regulators won't be able to control the car market through regulation anymore.

        1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

          Yeah it will be like firearms manufacturers. They'll build California compliant vehicles for California everyone else gets to continue to purchase the real McCoy.
          On a side note this will further kill California's ag industry. Like the Dairyman who moved to Idaho because of the draconian laws, the produce farmers will increasingly move to Arizona (which is already occurring).

          1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

            And Florida and other southern states.

        2. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

          Registering NEW out of state vehicles that haven't been approved by California's environmental review process is a woeful violation and well-enforced.

          When you go to register the vehicle, not only will they send you a letter insisting that you remove it from within California's borders, they'll fine you for the length of time that you fail to prove that it's no longer in the state.

          A lot of specialty motorcycles don't sell very many units, and the cost of going through California's emissions certification process is extremely expensive--so expensive that you can't cover the costs of it by selling only a few thousand motorcycles over the course of a number of years. So, what a lot of manufacturers do--if they don't expect to sell enough to justify California's cost--is they'll just restrict the sale of the vehicle to outside of California.

          If you go buy the motorcycle in Las Vegas, they will warn you not to register it in California until you get 10,000 to 15,000 miles on it. Plenty of motorcycles never get that much mileage on them. Once you get a certain number of miles, they'll let you slide--but not a new vehicle. If it's a new vehicle, they'll make you wish you'd never been born. They will fine you by the day until you prove that it's been sold to someone outside of California.

          And they won't tell you that at the DMV. They'll process you registration--and then you'll get a letter in the mail saying that your registration is revoked, and that you are ordered to remove the vehicle from California's borders and you will be fined x number of dollars a day until you do.

          1. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

            This is the absolute perfect beginners' bike.

            http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/TU250X/2019/TU250X.aspx

            Look at the asterix on the bottom:

            "*This model is not available in California."

            They are not fucking kidding, and they'll do the same thing to new gasoline powered vehicles come 2035 (or sooner).

            1. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

              The reason it isn't available in California is because they can't sell enough of them to justify the cost of going through California's regulatory process.

              That little 250 would do just fine going through California's regulatory process. It's just the cost and the fact that they don't sell enough of those low margin bikes to make it worth selling in California.

              1. Ron   5 years ago

                You think those regulations are rediculas look at the building regulations. In order for a fire rated material to be allowed in California it has to pay a $10,000 fee every year just to stay on the list, even after passing the fire testing. many products that were rated are no longer available because the companies don't want to pay the fee anymore. And people wonder why housing cost in California is through teh roof. All the fire regulation over the past 20 years have added at least 30% to construction cost

            2. ThomasD   5 years ago

              Yeah, that looks about like the first bike I ever rode.

              Think that one was a Honda though.

          2. Illocust   5 years ago

            How is that legal? How can California stop a legal product from crossing their borders without it being a violation of the commerce clause?

            1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

              Fuck you that's why. How dare you question your betters and isn't it so quaint you think the Constitiuton still applies to Emperor Palatine er I mean Newsom. Cue Galactic Senate scene where Padme despondently exclaims "so this is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause".

            2. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

              I'm not defending it. I hate it.

              I believe they're saying the product can't be registered by the DMV, and since you tried to register it, you're in trouble.

              If you want to park it in your backyard and plant a garden around it, you're probably free to do so--as long as you don't try to register it.

              I think it's also tied into their auto emissions standards that go back to air quality problems before CARB.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Air_Resources_Board

              Catalytic converters, and ending leaded gasoline, and all that stuff, as I recall or so I've heard, was spearheaded by California--and California had serious air quality issues as recently as the 1970s.

              The smog we see today is nothing compared to what I saw as a little kid. It was brown and thick. When you went outside, it stung your eyes like you'd been swimming in a pool with too much chlorine. When you turned on the air conditioner, you could see it coming through the vents in your air conditioning like brown tendrils. It was nasty, nasty shit, and they got rid of it.

              I don't think anyone has really challenged CARB before Trump, but because a huge percentage of the vehicles sold in this country go to California, if they set the standards higher than the federal government, then the industry has to abide by California's standards. Meanwhile, people elsewhere in the country have no say in who's elected in California.

              No regulation without representation!

              1. Illocust   5 years ago

                I can see how a legislature might think themselves quite clever for making that distinction, but that seems like it should be ripe for lawsuits.

            3. Ron   5 years ago

              California did this to Diesel engines. a lot of equipment that had a lot of useful life left had to be scrapped since it couldn't meet the new regulations. some smaller constructions companies couldn't afford the new equipment and had to close.

    2. Sevo   5 years ago

      You been scooped, just up-thread

    3. CE   5 years ago

      All those COVID powers went to his head. Fortunately for Newsom, he's not up for reelection this year. Right now he's about as popular as your neighbor's dog doing its business on your front lawn.

  17. John   5 years ago

    Sure Hunter Biden accepted a do nothing job with a corrupt gas company in Ukraine that his father later got a prosecutor who was investigating them fired. He made up for it by taking money from the Chinese and being involved with human trafficking.

    Acting Deputy Chief of Mission, George Kent, raised concerns about conflict of interest issues with Hunter on the Burisma board. “Furthermore, the presence of Hunter Biden on the Burisma board was very awkward for all U.S. officials pushing an anticorruption agenda in Ukraine.”
    State Dept official Amos Hochstein warned that Hunter’s position on the Burisma board undermined US policy in Ukraine
    State department officials along with John Kerry were told to stay quiet about the Hunter Biden/Burisma issues.
    Hunter Biden was serving on Burisma’s board (supposedly consulting on corporate governance and transparency) when Zlochevsky allegedly paid a $7 million bribe to officials serving under Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Vitaly Yarema, to “shut the case against Zlochevsky.” Kent testified that this bribe occurred in December 2014 (seven months after Hunter joined Burisma’s board), and, after learning about it, he and the Resident Legal Advisor reported this allegation to the FBI.”

    Archer received $142,300 from Kenges Rakishev of Kazakhstan, purportedly for a car, the same day Vice President Joe Biden appeared with Ukrainian Prime Minister Arsemy Yasenyuk and addressed Ukrainian legislators in Kyiv regarding Russia’s actions in Crimea.
    Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.
    Hunter Biden opened a bank account with Gongwen Dong to fund a $100,000 global spending spree with James Biden and Sara Biden.
    Hunter Biden had business associations with Ye Jianming, Gongwen Dong, and other Chinese nationals linked to the Communist government and the People’s Liberation Army. Those associations resulted in millions of dollars in cash flow.”

    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ukraine%20Report_FINAL.pdf

    1. Don't look at me!   5 years ago

      It all sounds above board and totally legit.

    2. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   5 years ago

      When they go low, we go high... or something like that!

    3. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

      I wonder what it's like to be a feckless shithead who rides his daddy's coattails to money and influence?

    4. Commenter_XY   5 years ago

      The Bidens are corrupt AF. Just like the damned Clintons.

      1. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

        I learned it from watching you!

  18. BYODB   5 years ago

    Are the 'protests' still 'mostly peaceful', or are they actually peaceful this time?

    At this point, I'm surprised when people don't call the L.A. riots the 'L.A. Protests' retroactively.

    1. Minadin   5 years ago

      I still want to know why people are protesting / rioting in St. Louis or Chicago or Minneapolis (etc.) over a grand jury decision in Louisville, KY.

      1. CE   5 years ago

        especially when the grand jury decision wasn't racist but fit the facts.
        and the underlying case was a drug war/police militarization issue, not a racism issue in the first place.

    2. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

      They were referred to as "largely peaceful" on the news feeds I was watching last night. One newsperson even had the gall to say "Aside from the 2 police officers who have been shot, the protests have been largely peaceful".

      One wonders if 2 reporters were shot if the news would suddenly have a different way of describing the events.

  19. John   5 years ago

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/09/24/secret_report_how_cias_brennan_overruled_dissenting_analysts_who_thought_russia_favored_hillary_125315.html

    So it turns out the Russians wanted Hillary to win. What a shock. Gee maybe the Russians wanted a weak President who was going to strangle American petroleum production and get us even more involved in wars in the Middle East . Who knew?

    1. Mother's Lament   5 years ago

      "Who knew?"
      Everyone.

      Which is why their actions over the last four years amount to several coup attempts.

    2. Set Us Up The Chipper   5 years ago

      Anybody that aggressively pushes the Russia/Trump narrative is in league with the ChiComs...and their lackeys the DNC.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    And yet Walker's actions are consistent with this story—he called 911 saying someone had broken into this house and shot his girlfriend.

    Meanwhile, the cops' application for a search warrant specifically says they are "requesting a no-knock entry to the premises."

    It shouldn't be difficult for libertarian-minded people to see the obvious here, because they've seen it enough before.

  21. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

    If the Louisville police did decide—contra their search warrant—to announce themselves, then they obviously didn't do it in a manner that was sufficient for Walker and Taylor to understand what was happening.

    Knocking on the door once and then shouting "police" while bashing the door in should be plenty of warning for people who are sound asleep in the middle of the night to realize what's going on and OBEY.

    1. creech   5 years ago

      Yep, can't have two cops grab him by the arms as he leaves the house in the morning. No, someone might get hurt in the scuffle.

      1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

        Well we know if they did, and he resisted and was injured they'd still blame the cops. Maybe instead of blaming the cops the better answer is reducing victimless crime laws so cops have less power?

        1. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

          "the better answer is reducing victimless crime laws so cops have less power"

          Now that's just crazy talk.

          You're right though, people are focused on the wrong level of the problem. Cops are just acting on laws, get rid of the laws and you've solved the entire issue.

          I wonder how the Libertarian party has failed to capitalize on this. Young black men get locked up over drugs and guns more than anything else, you'd think we'd have a pretty appealing sales pitch for them.

    2. ThomasD   5 years ago

      This. Even if the cops did shout something the onus is not on the occupants it is on them to properly communicate what they are doing.

      As a general principle of liberty people should feel secure in their place of residence. Unless and until it is clear they knew what the cops were communicating then they are entirely justified in resisting an armed and forceful invasion of their home.

      Sadly that is not the currently accepted legal standard, but it should be, and if it were it would go a long way towards reducing the number of Breonna Taylors, Rhogena Nicholas and Dennis Tuttles.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    The one witness Cameron said heard the police announce themselves initially claimed they did not. It took two more interviews before he said he may have heard them announce one time.

    Ha, if true, I think we know who those interviews went.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    Easily 1000 protesters in NY blocking traffic in both directions as they cross the Manhattan Bridge. Someone yells at the double decker tourist bus, "Welcome to New York!"

    "Hey, I protestin' here!"

  24. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    He's reportedly charged with violating an anti-mask law… in a city where masks are now mandatory.

    Take that, Fauci!

  25. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    The September 20 deadline for a purported TikTok sale has already passed, but the parties involved have yet to settle terms on the deal.

    Whatever it takes to get that embarrassing Please Don't Make Me Vote for Joe Biden dance video buried.

  26. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    More research casts doubt on the idea that many people with COVID-19 will not develop symptoms.

    We must have a much larger coverage of antibody tests than I have been aware of.

  27. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    Ann Arbor, Michigan, lawmakers just voted to decriminalize psychedelic plants.

    They're pretending your trip is a form of racial equality demonstration.

  28. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    The Los Angeles Times editorial board rejects California's Prop 22...

    Okay.

    1. Sevo   5 years ago

      BTW, there have been no anti-22 ads that I've seen and the pro-22 ads are very well done.

  29. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

    Seattle Police Dept.
    @SeattlePD
    Officers have deployed pepper spray after protestors cut security cameras at the East Precinct.

    Even the cops are getting it wrong. Protestors don't cut security cameras. Protestors want to be seen and certainly want any police response recorded. Rioters cut security cameras because they are engaged in criminal activity.

    Destruction of public property is not 'peaceful'.

    1. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

      At this point anytime I see "protestors did [x]" I just assume "protestors" really means "rioters." Especially if "[x]" is something that would normally be called a crime.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      I'll just repost what I wrote last night regarding the "spontaneous" protests, which happened in all the usual places:

      Also, notice how this shit gets put down quick as a hiccup in Republican-run areas.

      The Democratic Party and the NeverTrumpers WANT this destruction to happen. It’s the mother of all astroturfs. They’re desperate for a Kent State moment, and you don’t get “spontaneous” protests popping off all at once unless that shit’s being funded and coordinated at higher levels. That Uhaul van rental John referenced above, and the supplies therein, didn’t pay for itself.

      They think this is what people want because they haven’t gone out en masse outside the major cities. But every time they do, they get pushed back on, and then they don’t return. So now they’re trying to pimp the QAnon storyline to try and explain why their Color Revolution isn’t gaining traction outside their deep blue havens. Colorado Public Radio hilariously had a story about how Parker, a southern suburb that’s about as normie as you can get, is somehow a massive haven of QAnon conspiracy-followers. It’s nothing more than a deflective cope-fest.

      1. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

        Colorado Public Radio hilariously had a story about how Parker, a southern suburb that’s about as normie as you can get, is somehow a massive haven of QAnon conspiracy-followers.

        Holy fucking shit, that is hilarious. I used to live in Parker, and you're right. It's about as white bread suburbia hell as it gets.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

          You want real hilarity? I've talked online with left-wingers who live in that area and love to bitch about how dumb and uncultured their conservative neighbors are. A bit more conversation tends to bring this kind of remark out: "As soon as my kid(s) graduate, I'm getting out of this hick town."

          I can't even accuse them of hypocrisy because they have literally no fucking self-awareness at all. They absolutely can make no connection whatsoever to the top-level schools in their district and the demographics of that same district. Ask them what was wrong with living in north Aurora and sending their kid to Hinkley, or in Park Hill and having them go to Manual, or in the Mapleton school district, and their brains lock up.

  30. Nardz   5 years ago

    http://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1309135799011737601?s=19

    Biden already called another lid for the day.

    1. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   5 years ago

      Biden is so low-energy that it's a wonder he can still breathe...

      1. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

        He barely can. The other day he was clearly out of breathe from walking ~20 yards to a podium. At what point is making him continue considered elder abuse?

        1. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   5 years ago

          Is is already surreal and yes, it is elder abuse. Not that Biden doesn't deserve such a fate but still... we stopped hanging and beheading people on public places for similar reasons: it is simply distasteful.

        2. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   5 years ago

          So if Biden says I can't breathe will people think it's a blm chant or an actual medical complaint?

          1. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   5 years ago

            Hopefully, the former.

          2. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

            They'll blame COVID and make it Trump's fault for forcing Joe to campaign rather than just conceding the race.

            1. Formerly Cynical Asshole   5 years ago

              ^This^

  31. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   5 years ago

    Good, if 4 more years wasn't a given before... now it is!

  32. Nardz   5 years ago

    http://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1309091409002192897?s=19

    Black Lives Matter activists racially abuse black police officer in Los Angeles. This is the face of civility against anarchy.

  33. Nardz   5 years ago

    http://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1309142629007974412?s=19

    President Trump went to pay his respects to Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Leftists threw a tantrum.

    How disrespectful...

  34. Weigel's Cock Ring   5 years ago

    True confession: I had never heard the expressions “full lid” or “called a lid” before the comically pathetic Biden presidential “campaign”. In the highly unlikely event that he actually wins, I wonder if the overseas betting operations will be taking action on how many days he’ll actually serve as president before dying or stepping down. I think William Henry Harrison did 32 days.

    And I’d love to know how many hours a day Sleepy Joe sleeps on average. My guess is that on most days he’s out like a light by around 8 PM for a good ten hours.

    1. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   5 years ago

      There's an increasingly higher chance for him to expire during one of the debates... provided he gets there.

      1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

        Interestingly enough the leftist media is increasingly running stories on how bad Biden is doing with working class whites and minorities. Is it a sign they are trying to walk back their take that Trump is toast?

        1. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   5 years ago

          Apparently it is. If you check out the WaPo financed polls for Arizona and Florida (+1 and +4 pp for Trump), it certainly looks that way. They're literally backpedaling in time in order to save some face before their inevitable demise.

          1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

            Those same polls suggest Kelly is slipping as well.

  35. Nardz   5 years ago

    http://twitter.com/govkristinoem/status/1308867528224059398?s=19

    This is how we do social distancing in South Dakota.

    1. lap83   5 years ago

      Anti-Karen

      I love how chill she is. Imagine a beltway politician trying to do a PR stunt like that. We'd never run out of meme material

    2. Jason A   5 years ago

      She's hot, but she needed 2 shots to get that bird. Just saying. 😉

      1. Under_Pressure   5 years ago

        3 shots...
        Regardless, the comments on that tweet are amazing- sheltered idiots losing their minds. "You certainly aren't pro- bird life," "I hope you use the meat AND FEATHERS," "why can't you just just get meat from the butcher and kill beautiful wildlife," etc. PETA retweeted with some moronic commentary. A+ trolling by the MILF from SD.

  36. Nardz   5 years ago

    http://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1309089258809024513?s=19

    I’ve taken the trouble to rectify the more problematic elements of Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech.

    I’d be grateful if academics could now make the necessary revisions to the history books.

  37. Nardz   5 years ago

    http://twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status/1309003515025555456?s=19

    Floyd case could have led to serious reforms on body cams, arrest tactics, QI, decriminalization etc.

    Taylor case could have led to reform on no-knock warrants etc.

    Instead we will get blocked traffic, rioting, violence, deaths, Covid spread, lectures, division, & few reforms.

    1. ElvisIsReal   5 years ago

      The riots set real reform back decades.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 years ago

      Just a quick reminder that the Kentucky politician who introduced a bill to eliminate no-knock warrants was harrassed by Blantifa scum at the RNC.

  38. Nardz   5 years ago

    http://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1309148941485772807?s=19

    Memes. Hakuna matata.

  39. Nardz   5 years ago

    http://twitter.com/michellemalkin/status/1309103221579952131?s=19

    Throwing Molotov cocktails at police in the Pacific Northwest won't get you arrested.

    But singing psalms without a mask in Moscow, Idaho, WILL get you hauled off to jail in handcuffs.

    #anarchotyranny

    1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

      Moscow is the most progressive city in Idaho. It makes Boise look like a conservative haven in comparison. Pullman, WA, 17 mike's west is even worse.

      1. soldiermedic76   5 years ago

        The rest of Latah County would breath a sigh of relief if the Palouse suddenly opened up and swallowed Moscow.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

          Moscow - home of University of Idaho

          Pullman - home of Washington State University

          Even in red states, college towns make folks blue.

  40. CE   5 years ago

    Another mass protest super spreader event, another COVID-19 spike on the way, to be blamed on reopening the bars too soon (again)

    1. Sometimes Bad Is Bad   5 years ago

      It's the college kids fault. Or labor day. Halloween is cancelled.

  41. Ken Shultz   5 years ago

    "No Murder Charges in Breonna Taylor Case; Protests Erupt Across U.S."

    This simply wasn't a case of murder.

    There are two issues here: prosecutors being in bed with the police and the drug war.

    1) The police wouldn't have even been there if it weren't for the drug war.

    2) Doesn't the old saying have it that a prosecutor can get a ham sandwich indicted by a grand jury?

    In this case, they probably sent it to a grand jury a) to keep the law enforcement unions from blaming them for prosecuting a case where officers were returning fire and b) to dodge responsibility for not prosecuting the officers with the worst offense possible.

    The solution to those two issues is not to prosecute the police for charges they can easily beat. The solution is to a) end the drug war and b) elect prosecutors that aren't in bed with the police.

    I swear, sometimes angry mobs are downright unreasonable!

    1. Jerry B.   5 years ago

      I'd really be interested in knowing the demographics of the Grand Jury.

  42. Dillinger   5 years ago

    six in the morning, police at my door.

  43. Dillinger   5 years ago

    also of course there weren't going to be murder charges. something north of "one idiot lit up the neighbor's walls and he's out on bail" would have been nicer.

    1. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

      This case is why bodycams need to be mandatory everywhere. There's too much unknown, and that means we could have cops who did absolutely nothing wrong or we have cops who are guilty of manslaughter. That's a pretty big delta, some footage would be nice.

      1. Dillinger   5 years ago

        indeed. an aside, Body Cam was an awesome show.

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

      one idiot lit up the neighbor’s walls and he’s out on bail

      If that is not a rap song lyric then it should be.

      1. Dillinger   5 years ago

        I dropped Ice-T in the comment above it.

  44. Rob Misek   5 years ago

    In this post truth age, the facts don’t matter, only emotions do.

    That’s probably why nobody’s asking which of the officers guns killed Taylor.

  45. XM   5 years ago

    The warrant was no knock. But the cops knocked. Whether they also announced themselves is in dispute.

    That's it. No knock raids are legal, and if I shoot at cops who are busting into my home and they return fire and hit one of my family members, they cannot be tried for murder - unless they acted negligently. The discourse on no knock raids or whether Taylor was involved in the drug trade are separate issues.

    Reason overrules emotions and causes. Reason mandates that none of the police officers should charged with murder, and wipes away unfounded charges that they shot a woman because she was a black woman sleeping in her bed.

    Reason dissipates when it caves to the mob. And the libertarians at the academic level have stood by them from the very beginning. Is it any wonder that Jorgensen is nearly invisible in polls? You can't have a "live and let live" society without an underlying structure. You need something to ensure that no one illegally invades my space and my decision and intrudes upon agreements because it's "racist". You need police more in a libertarian state. Look at BLM, you think they respect your decisions?

    1. Rob Misek   5 years ago

      If someone was killed because cops fired blindly, as opposed to seeing and engaging a shooter and missing, isn’t that negligence causing death?

      1. Fat Mike's Drug Habit   5 years ago

        The same standard has to be applied to citizens defending themselves. The cops didn't say they were shooting to neutralize a violent criminal, they were shooting to defend themselves. It would make sense that self defense rules apply in that situation.

        If I'm defending myself, miss a shot and accidentally kill someone, am I a murderer? Am I guilty of manslaughter?

        I honestly don't know the answer to that, and it probably varies greatly based on jurisdiction. The point is that cops shouldn't get special rules applied to them in defensive shooting situations; self defense is self defense whether you have a badge or not.

        1. Rob Misek   5 years ago

          I think that the crime is shooting blindly.

          That isn’t the same as aiming and missing.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 years ago

        isn’t that negligence causing death?

        That is the exact reason the court invented QI. Even if the standard is the same, it doesn't apply to police.

    2. Jerry B.   5 years ago

      If there were no war on drugs, this never would have happened. That’s what we need to be focusing on.

      1. Rob Misek   5 years ago

        With that logic, If there were no laws at all there would be no crime.

        Easypeasy

  46. Natural Born Deplorable   5 years ago

    Only one of a dozen of Taylor's apartment building neighbors said they may have heard the cops announce themselves before shots rang out.

    And Michael Brown's hands were in the air and he was saying "don't shoot."

  47. Ezra MacVie   5 years ago

    Stop.
    The.
    Drug.
    War.
    Now.

  48. Fist of Etiquette   5 years ago

    Second.

  49. Rufus The Monocled   5 years ago

    Hello.

    Say her name!

    /kneels. Lowers head crying. Looks up with one eye to see if anyone's watching. Increases emotional outburst. Raises fist.

    Burn it all down!

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