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Jo Jorgensen Is the 2020 Libertarian Party Presidential Nominee

What can libertarianism offer America in the midst of the economic crisis brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic?

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Jo Jorgensen, a senior lecturer in psychology at Clemson University, had such a wonderful time running as the Libertarian Party (L.P.) vice presidential candidate in 1996, on a ticket with Harry Browne, that she has contemplated taking a swing at the top slot ever since. On May 24, she won her party's nomination for president.

Reason's Brian Doherty spoke with Jorgensen by phone just before she was named the 2020 L.P. presidential nominee in an online convention. They spoke about how the party can appeal to Democratic and Republican voters and what libertarianism can offer America in the midst of the economic crisis brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Q: What do you think the Libertarian delegates want in a candidate this year?

A: They want what I'm selling: a candidate both practical and principled.

Q: COVID-19, though not something anyone was thinking about when this campaign began, is going to be the dominant issue. What's your take on it for a national electorate?

A: The [pandemic response] has been the biggest assault on our liberties in our lifetime, and it's two-pronged. There's the personal assault, with us all under house arrest. We can't go to our jobs, we can't go to funerals [and] weddings, we can't see our families.

Then there's the economic aspect. The fact that the government is bailing out companies with $2 trillion.…Whenever the government spends money, [it goes] to their friends, special interests, and lobbyists. It would be better if Americans got to keep their money. Let them decide which companies deserve money, not the government.

Q: Are there any aspects of a hardcore Libertarian message you think are just totally unpalatable to a typical voter?

A: I am supporting the Libertarian platform plank for plank. But what is not persuasive is someone just saying, "I'm for liberty and freedom" and that's all. The people who will be [convinced] by liberty and freedom for their own sake are probably already in the party. What we have to do is convince soccer moms, businesspeople, the average person that our ideas will work better.

Q: What are some other issues you'd expect to be front and center?

A: Health care is urgent—literally life or death. If we don't stop the path to single payer, it's going to be disastrous for the country. It's the most frustrating thing that [many Americans blame our health care issues on a failure] of free markets. I want to shout from the rooftops that we do not have a free market system in health care and how if we tried free markets, they would work.

I'd also talk about bringing the troops home and the environment. I'd stress that if you look around the globe [historically], you see wherever there is bigger government, there's more pollution. As far as global warming, I don't want to get in a debate about how we got here. I want to talk about how to get the cleanest Earth we can get, and if we don't want global warming, then nuclear power is the best option.

On immigration, I would put forward the message of the party platform. A lot of so-called immigrant crimes are not stealing money but just crossing the border. If you look at the economic impact overall, it's a net positive. I'd also like to mention I'm the granddaughter of three immigrants and my attitude is not "I'm the last one in, close the door behind me." I want the country more open to everyone, not for their sake but for America's sake.

Q: What would you say to Trump voters?

A: I would tell them you voted last time—sometimes for the first time or the first time in 20 years—because you were tired of the same old politicians and wanted something different. But he got into office and acted like all the others. He said he'd cut the government's size, and instead it's bigger. He said he'd get rid of the deficit, and he's going in the other direction. You wanted something new. [A Libertarian] is something new—not just another big-government spender.

This interview has been condensed and edited for style and clarity.

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  2. What we have to do is convince soccer moms…

    Soccer moms generally aren’t attracted to a message that they, not the state, are responsible for their offspring.

    Good luck bringing anyone into the fold, frankly. Everyone seems to want to vote for the politician who invents/creates a problem (other than burdensome government itself) to fix.

    1. Somewhere between 60-70% of the electorate will vote for any name with a D or R behind it. Ross Perot, the most successful 3rd party candidate of our lifetimes was only able to get around 19% in 1992 when he had debate access. Gary Johnson, the most successful LP candidate was only able to get 3.3% in a year where the D and R candidates were upside down on likeability. That was of course without debate access.

      The absolute ceiling for 3rd parties is probably around half of the undecided vote which itself isn’t enough to win. More realistically if she ran a perfect campaign she’s probably capped around 5%.

      The best we could hope for is to advance our message and start chipping away for many years now. The key to doing that is to get into the debates. That really should be the primary focus of the campaign.

      1. The highest voter turnout in my lifetime is 57% It hasn’t been over 60% in half a century. If everyone who didn’t vote in 2016 were to vote for Jo she’d win in a landslide

        1. Your assumption is that 40% that don’t vote are not voting because they are disassociated. The reality is that some are, but most probably simply don’t care and never will. I can’t imagine any of the latter group voting for someone they’ve never heard of if they suddenly decided to participate. It would certainly be a tall order to reach people that don’t care. They aren’t watching the debates either.

          1. People. who don’t vote should automatically be tallied as “None of the above”, which should also be a choice on every ballot. Want to stop encouraging ideological end members?

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  4. “But he got into office and acted like all the others. He said he’d cut the government’s size, and instead it’s bigger. He said he’d get rid of the deficit, and he’s going in the other direction.”
    No, he didn’t act like all the other politicians to date, in fact, he’s anything but your typical politician. He was also way more libertarian, unwittingly perhaps, than any other POTUS in the past half century.

    That said, she is right about the deficit, but this is a bit of a disingenuous argument for more reasons than one…

    1. “That said, she is right about the deficit, but this is a bit of a disingenuous argument for more reasons than one . . . “

      The Democrats in the House are so dismayed right now is because Trump’s actions on unemployment killed all Republican support for their $3.5 trillion stimulus bill. Now that unemployment has been extended, the leading alternative to the House Democrats’ $3.5 trillion spending bill is spending nothing.

      You’re right, and the question isn’t just how much spending there has been because of COVID-19. The question is how much spending there would have been if President Trump weren’t in office, and part of that answer is that President Trump has killed $3.5 trillion in spending just in past two weeks.

      Meanwhile, if Biden is elected, one of his central campaign promises is to spend $2 trillion over the next four years on his Green New Deal.

      https://reason.com/2020/07/16/bidens-new-green-new-deal-is-the-same-as-the-old-green-new-deal/

      That is spending that will not happen if President Trump is reelected.

      1. P.S. That Reason article I linked above claims that Biden doesn’t call his climate change plan “the Green New Deal”, but he does call it the Green New Deal on his campaign website.

        “Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face. It powerfully captures two basic truths, which are at the core of his plan: (1) the United States urgently needs to embrace greater ambition on an epic scale to meet the scope of this challenge, and (2) our environment and our economy are completely and totally connected.”

        https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/

      2. He blew up the sequester. Fuck him on spending. I’m to the point where I’d almost* welcome Biden becoming president if only for the fact Republicans would care about spending again out of sheer spite.

        *almost doing a lot of work in that sentence.

        1. The best thing to happen to the Republican Party was the influence that the Tea Party had on it. That wouldn’t have happened without Obama.

          I think the most dangerous thing for the future of this country is to send the message to Republicans that they can win in a year where they only tripled spending instead of increasing by the six times that the Democrats proposed. If there’s no reasonable option to control spending (aka the size of government) in an election we might as well just give up.

          I wouldn’t vote for Biden, but I certainly wouldn’t vote for a Republican that has the spending bona fides Trump has either. Nobody or LP gets my vote this year.

          1. The tea part has had onlt 1 candidate not ge sucked into the DC swamp. Tom massie

            1. I would add Rand Paul to that list. Not sure if Amash was technically a tea party person, but seemed to spin out of that (was supported initially by FreedomWorks).

              But you’re right, many of the others simply became swamp creatures. I’m looking at you Senator Cruz.

        2. Are you telling us about your feeling?

          I’m talking about facts.

          “A group of more than 100 Democrats wrote to [Nancy Pelosi] seeking a vote on a measure focused on extending a federal unemployment supplement during the pandemic, and Democrats from districts that President Trump won were showing jitters.

          We cannot keep saying take it or leave it because we know very well at this point the Senate has left it,” said Rep. Cindy Axne (D., Iowa).

          . . . .

          Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) previously estimated that roughly 20 Senate Republicans opposed the earlier, $1 trillion package and might not be amenable to any additional funding.

          —-August 19, 2020

          https://www.wsj.com/articles/next-steps-on-coronavirus-stimulus-package-divide-both-parties-11597839370?

          The reason we’re not even considering the House Democrats’ $3.5 trillion stimulus package under the guise of extending unemployment benefits is because the Republicans in the Senate oppose it. 20 out of 53 opposed the $1 trillion package championed by Mitch McConnell before President Trump extended unemployment benefits through the end of the election, and now that Trump took care to keep unemployed voters paid through election day, the prevailing opinion among Republicans is that the best amount to spend on future stimulus is zero. That is why 100 centrist Democrats in the House are calling Nancy Pelosi’s stimulus package dead in the water–that her $3.5 billion take it or leave it stimulus package is an ex-parrot.

          Why shouldn’t I believe that the Republicans killed a $3.5 trillion spending bill?

          Should I not believe my own lying eyes?!

          We are spending $3.5 trillion less on the worst recession since World War II than we would be otherwise because the Republicans refuse to spend it and because President Trump is in the White House. If Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden were in the White House, we would be spending substantially more than we are. The Democrats can’t get their stimulus spending passed because the Republicans refuse to support it–two months and change ahead of an election.

          Those are the facts, and choosing to spend nothing on stimulus under those circumstances is the best outcome we can reasonably hope for as fiscal conservatives.

      3. Indeed. Unfortunately, most people tend to ignore opportunity costs and potential alternatives in general, since most people focus only on what they can currently see, touch or feel. But a wise person considers every possible scenarios and potential outcomes.

        It’s obvious that Republicans in Congress are (generally speaking) spending less than Democrats in Congress, it’s not even a secret, it’s part of the latter’s credo. It’s also probable that Trump is the most fiscally conservative candidate from the 2016 GOP platform. As such, complaining about the deficit in that respect is indeed a false premise, since almost literally anyone (except for Ms. Jorgensen perhaps?) would have spent more than President Trump. Certainly his predecessor, certainly his 2016 opponent and most certainly Joe Biden.

        1. Except recent history proves what you say is false.

          Democrats had full control of federal government 2009-10 and faced economic calamity in the Great Recession/Financial Crisis and only spent less than 1/3 of what Trump/McConnell/Pelosi has this year.

          The ARRA of 2009 was $800 billion with 1/3 of that in payroll tax cuts.

          1. wow. Idiot actually believe the false math of ACA and Obama first 2 years.

            Hey dummy… what program had repayments in 2009 through 2011? What major program was passed in 2010? Why did Baseline budgeting under Reid become the standard to keep the 2009 outlays as the baseline?

          2. “what Trump/McConnell/Pelosi has this year.”

            Hi you need to look up what “veto proof ” means so you look less stupid.

            At least you admit it was Nancy’s fault though, finally.

      4. jo fails to recognize that every budget bill the last 4 years was veto proof.

        I don’t know why most libertarians refuse to recognize the structure of our government. It just makes them look dumb and partisan.

        1. We know what the best solution is to most problems, and it’s hard to understand why other people refuse it.

          Knowing the best solution makes us susceptible to the perfect solution fallacy, but just because neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are libertarian per se doesn’t mean that one of them isn’t profoundly superior to the other on issues like fiscal conservatism.

          We just don’t have the support we need for libertarian government yet, and settling for the lesser evil doesn’t drive anybody’s enthusiastic support. Still, killing a $3.5 trillion stimulus bill is fundamentally superior to not killing a $3.5 trillion stimulus bill.

          1. I agree. Things would be much worse under a dem controlled senate and presidency.

            The problem I have is people who decry a fascist king like president attribute all actions to him. They ignore congress and the problems there. It is maddening.

            The senate has no spine. Much of this due to the media narrative building. But pushing those issues onto the executive is just playing partisan games. I blamed Paul Ryan under Obama.

        2. The best thing an LP president could do if elected is veto every single bill. The ones were 2/3 of Congress agree are probably a lot less dangerous and a lot less expensive.

      5. And then we’ll have to move to freezing cold Mars when the Earth is too hot to live on anymore, with no Green Raw Deal.

        1. and just think how much that will cost

      6. Isn’t this a bit like saying Jack the Ripper should go to heaven because he didn’t kill as many people as Adolf Hitler? Voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil evil. Donald Trump is an incompetent moron wannabe dictator with nothing but disdain for every principle that people holding their nose to vote for him care about. The two party system can only keep everyone else out until enough people refuse to choose the form of their own destructor.

        1. No, it isn’t saying that at all.

          It’s saying that being a principled libertarian isn’t about never having to vote for someone that makes you feel uncomfortable. Being principled is about standing by your convictions even when it’s hard.

          Every “libertarian” who opposes making the government smaller if making the government smaller requires them to vote for President Trump–is not a principled libertarian.

    2. I think you are really deluding yourself if you think that President Trump is in any way libertarian. He is purely transactional and generally transactional to his benefit.

      1. If killing a $3.5 trillion stimulus bill isn’t libertarian, what is?

        1. Is clearing protesters from a park libertarian? Are tariffs libertarian? Are farm subsidies libertarian? Is separating families and caging children libertarian? I could go and you could go on, but what the point. Too many commenter will work too hard to see a libertarian in Trump.

    3. He was also way more libertarian, unwittingly perhaps, than any other POTUS in the past half century.

      This idea that Trump is somehow “libertarian” because he occasionally makes the right choice needs to stop. I doubt Trump has an ideology beyond playing to his base and infuriating the libs.

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  6. “What can libertarianism can [sic] offer America in the midst of the economic crisis brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic?”

    The same thing we offered America before the pandemic: unlimited, unrestricted immigration. But there’s really no need for a Libertarian Party since the Democrats have embraced our fundamental, non-negotiable issue.

    #ImmigrationAboveAll
    #VoteBidenForOpenBorders

    1. and the one with the greatest voter appeal

  7. But he got into office and acted like all the others. He said he’d cut the government’s size, and instead it’s bigger.

    Trump brought the most profligate spending and welfare/handout programs ever for any POTUS in any one term.

    The economy has cratered due to his incompetence.

    ABC News/YouGov has his approval rating at just 32% – below that of even Joe MCarthy AFTER his fellow Senators told him to STFU about calling out the “Deep State commies” of his day.

    1. LOL! Lower than McCarthy?!

      As a student of history I know there were absolutely no “communists in the government” back then, but that Russians are controlling our government right now.

      #TrumpRussia
      #LibertariansForGettingToughWithRussia

    2. “Trump brought the most profligate spending and welfare/handout programs ever for any POTUS in any one term.”

      Where does spending originate?

      1. With Nancy. It’s why fake buttplug 2 is so upset, he has nothing to go after Trump for on spending because Nancy was in charge of it.

        1. You idiots actually believe Senate and POTUS approval isn’t needed for spending bills?

          1. After the house passes it of course.

            And of course depending on the vote even Presidential approval is unnecessary.

          2. every spending bill has been veto proof dummy.

            1. Yeah, the normal excuses for excusing his D comrades don’t work rhis time.

      2. If Trump/GOP wanted to squash spending bills all they have to do is refuse to let it come up for a vote like they did with Obama’s SCOTUS pick.

        Your response is so lame. Its like you don’t believe the GOP was fully complicit in this runaway spending.

        NANCY TRICKED US! SHE’S A WITCH!

        1. Ah so it’s Trump’s fault Nancy spends. Got it.

          1. The diddler excuses D abuses.

      3. Does it matter if a Republican Senate and Republican President aren’t willing to stop the spending from the House?

        1. Yes it sure does.

        2. Considering the purpose of replying to the pedophile is to make him look stupid and shame him, yes pointing out that he and his party are culpable is absolutely essential.

        3. the senate yes. But they too have been passing with over a 66% threshold. The senate should be condemned for their part. As should the media for playing up the dying children narrative anytime the senate does attempt to reign on spending.

        4. Leo Kovalensky II – “It doesn’t matter what Democrats do because Republicans BAD!!!”

          1. that’s basically what the idealists here preach.

          2. More accurately…. Democrats tell us they are going to spend like drunken sailors. It shouldn’t be surprising when they do.

            Republicans at least feign concern for the debt, yet almost always increase spending. I don’t see any reason to keep falling for it.

            1. The main reason for increased spending is the default of baseline budgeting which grows the budget at 3.4% every year as the baseline. It needs to be ended. So instead of attacking the President who has hardly had a say in the matters, let’s attack Congress so they change their behavior instead. All you’re doing is allowing Congress to avoid the political feedback of their overspending by continually blaming the wrong party in the Executive.

              1. I’d happily agree. Congress sucks. The Democrat controlled house and the Republican controlled Senate both suck. Both have been spending like drunken sailors.

                The President doesn’t have to sign any spending bill. Whether it’s a veto-proof majority or not, I see his signature as agreeing to the spending. Trump deserves criticism for not reducing the deficit which he claimed was a priority as a candidate. If nothing else, he could simply NOT sign the bills and then I would agree that the blame lies entirely with Congress. But he didn’t and it doesn’t.

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  8. Too bad this interview didn’t happen until after Jo instructed us that we all have to be “actively anti-racist.”

    Blankenship 2020!

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  9. Turns out I hate Republicans and I’d like to thank Trump for that.

    1. I figured it out with Bush 2.

    2. The moment Trump leaves office, even Republicans will hate Republicans.

  10. Q: What do you think the Libertarian insert political party name here delegates want in a candidate this year?

    A: They want what I’m selling: a candidate both practical and principled.

    I’ve heard of softball interviews, but Anthony Fauci has a faster pitch than this.

    1. Because “A: a psychology professor no one thinks is qualified to be president” isn’t a very strong answer?

      And last time the LP ran a two-term governor and actual successful businessman, and people nitpicked a few interview questions.

      1. The interviewer asked a gotcha question, no doubt, but falling into it wouldn’t have been so cringe had Johnson not looked baked out of his mind.

  11. No questions on he “anti racist” statement?

    Quite the bit of journalism there. Just her statement that caused the most outrage.

  12. Q: Are there any aspects of a hardcore Libertarian message you think are just totally unpalatable to a typical voter?

    A: No free stuff.

  13. A lot of so-called immigrant crimes are not stealing money but just crossing the border.

    Is she dumb? Crossing is civil, it is not counted in the criminal numbers.

    1. And yet every crossing makes Baby Donald cry.

      1. Yes, you totes have no team.

  14. you see wherever there is bigger government, there’s more pollution. As far as global warming, I don’t want to get in a debate about how we got here. I want to talk about how to get the cleanest Earth we can get,

    Free market America has the most net gain in cleaner emissions. What the fuck is she talking about? It also appears she is for government actions here.

    1. Health care is urgent—literally life or death.

      So her biggest take aways here…

      Open immigration, action on climate, health care for everyone without mention of costs….

      How does she differ from Biden?

      1. She probably doesn’t go around sniffing other women’s hair, and knows where she is most of the time.

        1. Female libertarian. Don’t assume so quickly 😉

      2. Obviously you didn’t bother to read what she said or else you’re intentionally arguing straw men.

        “Open” immigration is a plank on the LP platform. It shouldn’t be surprising that their candidate supports it.

        The only “action” on climate she mentioned was expanding nuclear power options. Do you see that as a bad thing? Seems like a market solution if the government simply gets out of the way by allowing nuclear again.

        “Health care for everyone?” Her only mention was that we have do everything possible to avoid single payer and trust markets.

        If we don’t stop the path to single payer, it’s going to be disastrous for the country. It’s the most frustrating thing that [many Americans blame our health care issues on a failure] of free markets. I want to shout from the rooftops that we do not have a free market system in health care and how if we tried free markets, they would work.

        Just admit that you don’t like her because she’s not Trump and move along.

        1. Yes, I read it. I read what her priorities were, which is what I stated. Her platitudes are merely platitudes. That’s it. She has no real conviction in any of her statements.

          I know you feel like you have to support someone just because they have LP in their name.

          First, not every libertarian supports open borders in present of a welfare state. Quite frankly if you do you are a fucking idiot, full stop. The two do not mix. It doesn’t take even a high school graduate to realize that.

          Environment. She made the claim big government makes more pollution. She is wrong here. And you fucking failed to recognize it. The US has done more to curb emissions than any other country on the planet. You can counter that by China, but that’s not what her claim was. She off handily mentioned one source of power, Nuclear, while ignoring all other forms of pollution. You’re just being dishonest here.

          Health care is not our highest priority. She should have focused on it being a free market. Because when you say Health care is a necessity, it leads to it being a right and being funded by the government.

          You really don’t think deep on any issues at all Leo. You used to not be this facially limited, but you are now.

          1. I know you feel like you have to support someone just because they have LP in their name.

            I don’t. She hasn’t earned my vote yet. I’d like to hear some more details about where she stands on the issues. I know for certain which 2 candidates I won’t be supporting, though.

            Health care is not our highest priority. She should have focused on it being a free market.

            She did.

            Because when you say Health care is a necessity, it leads to it being a right and being funded by the government.

            Apparently only in your mind. That’s why it’s called a straw man. She never said healthcare is a right or that government has any place in it. She specifically said that single-payer is dangerous, which would lead most people to think that she doesn’t think of healthcare as a right to be provided by the government. Or at least anyone without an agenda to distort her position to prop up their preferred candidate.

            If you’re actually worried that she’s too much like Biden, then wouldn’t that be good for Trump? It’s hard to argue that she’s going to “steal” votes from Trump if she’s the same as his opponent.

  15. What we have to do is convince soccer moms

    President Jorgensen will stop the epidemic of child sex-trafficker kidnappings at Target and Kohls.

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    3. I can’t keep track any more. Are we trying to get the vote of soccer moms, NASCAR dads, or brick-throwing protestor cousins?

      1. NASCAR dads are okay now that they’ve banned the Confederate battle flag.

    4. and creepy guys following you around in Target and the Goodwill and then going to the parking lot at the same time and then not doing anything

    5. And lose the support of the LP Age of Consent Caucus.

  16. “I am supporting the Libertarian platform plank for plank. . . .On immigration, I would put forward the message of the party platform.”

    I hope she knows it’s okay, even healthy, to deviate a little bit from the LP national platform. Most Libertarian voters are never going to read through it, so it’s meaningless to defer to it and draw attention away from your own campaign’s messaging. No other party is this obsessed with fidelity to their platform [committee].

    1. Wasn’t the interview before her nomination? LP candidates usually reassure the delegates that they will hew to the platform or suffer the charge that they aren’t “real” libertarians.

  17. In one interview I heard her towing the line of outright conspiracy theory regarding COVID-19. Just because the government overreacted does not mean COVID-19 isn’t dangerous. Not that she’s worse than any of the other purists vying for the slot.

    I might be be writing in Amash/Gabbard.

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  18. What can libertarianism can offer America in the midst of the economic crisis brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic?

    Besides open borders and open prisons?

  19. You go, Jo! I love the excitement you are generating.

    1. The most interesting story about her so far is that she somehow managed to get bitten by a bat and needed a rabies shot.

  20. Ms. Jorgensen’s response to the Covid-19 pandemic is pathetic. It essentially amounts to I going to put my hand on my ears, go woo-woo-woo and pretend that the virus does not exist. As President what role would she play in the response? She said that people need to make their own decisions, but did not say if the government should provide any advice. She could say get your doctors advice, but you doctor is likely looking to the CDC to provide advice for his patients. People are looking to FDA to advise on treatments and vaccines. Ms. Jorgensen could say that people should all get subscriptions to JAMA , the Lancet, etc, and read the papers themselves and make a decision. Again her response was pathetic.

  21. I’ll be looking forward to polls suggesting independents want something other than the Rep/Dem choice and then after the election with the Libertarian Party getting 3% of the vote.

    1. You’re very optimistic in your 3% prediction. I mean, I hope she does well and “steals” lots of votes from the major parties… I just don’t see it happening.

      1. 1% tops, if it doesn’t rain.

  22. If you can hear me way down at the bottom of the thread, Doherty, thanks for the interview. I’d like to read more about this crazy broad.

    1. I want to talk about how to get the cleanest Earth we can get

      Dog whistling to SMOD’s Earth-clensing demographic. Shrewd.

    2. Whoops wasn’t meant in reply.

      1. Kind of apropos though

  23. It’s either Jo, a write in or withhold my vote. I simply could not vote for Trump or Biden and maintain a clear conscience.

  24. I don’t have the heart to read the article yet. Has the LP foisted another closet leftist upon us in the name of stopping muh Drumpf?

    1. No, actually she’s a pretty no-compromise libertarian, unlike Johnson.

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  26. I voted for Gary Johnson last time, not the Libertarian Party. It was a great attempt to legitimatize a third party. The third party just wasn’t legitimate. This time it will be Trump, not the Republican Party.

  27. Spending is the genie out of the bottle. Global warming is a globalist scheme replaced by covid, the great “reset”. Healthcare is a lack of leadership, more free ponies. What I want to know is do we prosecute them and starve them out or does the swamp get a pardon? Or do they get a Ceaușescu send off.

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