Coronavirus

Florida and Texas Close Their Bars In Response to Surge in New COVID-19 Cases

Rising rates of new cases and hospitalizations have seen both states' governors reverse course on reopening businesses.

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Today, both Texas and Florida announced that they would be closing down their states' bars in response to a rise in the number of new coronavirus cases.

"It is clear that the rise in cases is largely driven by certain types of activities, including Texans congregating in bars," said Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) in a press release. "The actions in this executive order are essential to our mission to swiftly contain this virus and protect public health."

Bars in Texas were allowed to reopen May 22, provided they operated at 25 percent capacity. This was raised to 50 percent capacity in early June.

Abbott cited the state's positivity rate—meaning the percentage of coronavirus tests coming back positive—rising above 10 percent, and increasing numbers of COVID-19 patients in hospitals, as reasons for his reversal. The Texas Tribune reports that the state hit a record 4,736 hospitalizations on Thursday.

Hospitals in Houston and other metros report being at or near capacity. State officials and hospital leaders say Texas has enough intensive care unit (ICU) beds for now, but that new patients will outstrip hospital capacity if trends continue.

In addition to bars, Abbott's order closes rafting and tubing businesses—which were linked to an outbreak in Hays County—and requires restaurants to reduce their capacity from 75 percent to 50 percent.

It's a similar story in Florida, where rising case numbers and hospitalizations have seen Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) order that state's bars closed as well. The governor had previously allowed most bars in the state to open on June 3.

Florida's positivity rate has oscillated wildly from 5 percent to 18 percent over the past two weeks, but the trend has been unmistakably upwards.

Data collected by Florida International University (FIU) on South Florida hospitals, the Sun Sentinel reports, shows a surge in hospitalizations over the past two weeks, with places like Palm Beach and Miami-Dade County hitting record highs.

The FIU data shows more modest upticks in COVID-19 patients being admitted to ICUs or being placed on ventilators. "We are seeing slight spikes in ICU and ventilator use, and that's something to watch," Zoran Bursac, chair of FIU's Department of Biostatistics, told the Sun Sentinel.

Avik Roy of the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity noted on Twitter that Florida's rising hospitalizations are being driven mostly by younger people, who are less likely to need to be placed in ICUs and on ventilators.

Former FDA head Scott Gottlieb notes more gravely that mortality rates for younger patients in Florida are unusually high.

Both The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times have run stories on the recent spike in new coronavirus cases among younger people, both of which emphasized the youth's trips to the bar as a reason for this uptick.

The temptation is obviously to blame these state's case spikes on hasty reopenings. A cross-state comparison complicates that picture somewhat.

Colorado, where bars serving primarily drinks were allowed to open at reduced capacity last week, is seeing a minor uptick in new cases. South Dakota, which never implemented a lockdown order, is seeing its number of new cases go down. Meanwhile, states like Washington are seeing a big spike in new cases despite bars remaining closed in most of the state, and indoor dining being allowed only at reduced capacity. Parts of Pennsylvania, which has also been slow to reopen, are seeing spikes in new cases as well.

As always, the coronavirus pandemic continues to behave unpredictably, bedeviling efforts to find quick or simple policy responses.

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  1. Remember, anything is justifiable if you can save even a single life.

    1. “Whoever saves one life saves the world entire.”
      t. Oskar Schindler

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      2. Schindler must have been bad at math.

    2. “You begin saving the world by saving one person at a time; all else is grandiose romanticism or politics.”

      ― Charles Bukowski

      1. Only if you have the coof. If you have an elective surgery coming up that could save your life, then you’re SOL.

      2. “If your saving lives, save the meaty ones for last” – Jeffrey Dahmer.

    1. Putin has ensured his country remains a third world-level mess into the far distance future – every aspect of its government, society and economy rotten with corruption. By the time he had eliminated his final foe and enriched his last crony, dysfunction was hardwired into every level of the Russian state.

      So having won at that cost, my guess is he sought a legacy still possible after all the damage he’d done. What can you achieve when everything you’ve done makes achievement impossible?Empty nationalism and pretty malice was pretty much all that’s left. We’re lucky our corrupt demagogue is such an ineffectual incompetent buffoon.

      1. Biden hasn’t won yet.

      2. Funny how “nationalism” became a dirty word for the left after JFK was shot by a commie.

    2. Nope. We sent Stingers to kill Russian Troops. Accidentally bomb Russians in Syria. Oooppss.

      1. That Wagner Group column was warned before the festivities.

        No, there aren’t any Russian troops near Deir ez-Zor. What are you talking about? There certainly isn’t a motor-rifle battalion equivalent headed for your little Special Forces base. That would be silly.

        Then came the JDAM Arc Light…

  2. Greg Abbott disappoints.

    1. Greg Abbott has been coming up short for a few decades….

      1. I’d make “watch out for that tree!” joke but i’m nicer than that.

    2. Abbott is courting the very fickle Karen vote. My guess is that the Beto/Cruz election two years ago spooked Abbott and he thinks he has to kiss that demographic’s ass more than he has.

      I think he’s dead wrong, and flirting with killing a lot of businesses that barely survived Texas’s prior round of business restrictions.

      1. He was the most stubborn governor in the country with respect to treating the pandemic seriously. He’s changed course now because he doesn’t really have a choice unless he wants to be known by history as a mass murderer.

        The problem is the Trumptards didn’t care about the facts and were thus wrong. Thank God they probably only have a few more months to inflict that insane horseshit on the rest of us.

        1. Tell me about all the Trumptards that staff the WHO Tony.

          1. I’m concerned with the ones insisting that we ignore all expert bodies and listen to country music instead.

            1. Would that be the experts that said not to wear a mask (CDC and WHO) or the experts that said it wasn’t a big deal and wouldn’t spread far (WHO)?

              1. Congratulations on indicting the very concept of expertise. Surely you’re not surprised when your random non-expert sources of information are always wrong.

        2. Gosh Tony, if we’re talking about mass murderers, why not discuss Cuomo’s decision to Move KungFlu patients into nursing homes?

        3. Only partisan fucks like you could call someone who lets people make their own decisions a mass murderer while giving a pass to the piece of shit who forced old people to be housed with other infected old people.

          Never change Tony.

        4. This comment demonstrates why I have so little hope for this country. It reveals a damaging black-and-white view of the world. As if only Trump supporters are skeptical about masks. As if only Trump supporters went to bars. As if the government or a governor can independently cause deaths from COVID (in which case, Cuomo is going away for life).

          It’s trolling. It’s a very simplistic and childish way to approach the world. Social media and anonymous comment-posting have degraded our national dialogue to the point of absurdity. If you were sitting across a table from me, I cannot imagine you would have the balls to call me a “Trumptard.”

          I don’t support Trump, but I don’t like the lockdowns. Guidance on masks is uneven. Whichever side you are one, you can find a scientific study that supports your position. And the governor can recommend social distancing, but kids think they are immortal, so they pack into house parties and bars. We have a first amendment right to assembly.

          So take your Trumptard bullshit and your “mass murderer” absurdity and shove it up your ass. Go away. You are part of the problem.

    3. I found out too late in 2000, that the Governor in Texas doesn’t have much power. It’s all in the legislature.

    4. Lucky for me I had zero expectations from him so I can’t really be disappointed. It’s easier that way.

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  3. More tyranny.

    States dont have the power to close businesses nor be some Pope that you have to kiss a bureaucrat’s ring to be in business.

    Corporations are state created entities, so states have some regulation power.

    Regulation is NOT banning or closing down. That would mean states have absolute control over business and they dont have that power.

    After the Democrat Party burns out, Americans will be going after the tyrant RINOs too.

    1. My family business has not shut down nor had any retarded unsocial distancing since this hysteria began.

      More alcoholics and people looking for food than ever before. If customers want to wear masks, I wont stop them. I sure as hell would never demand any customers wear masks or stand in a manner we are all not comfortable with.

      1. Do you ever feel like the people around you are merely tolerating you?

        1. Tony is looking for common souls. How sweet.

        2. Tony, it’s more like people like us tolerating people like you. The moment we don’t, you will be gone.

          You only exist because we allow it.

  4. Every new beginning comes from some other beginning’s end.

    1. You been watching Human Centipede again?

    2. Or perhaps from worm castings

  5. How flat do you think you can make the curve?

    1. Enough already about your Peyronie’s disease

  6. This MUST be a Communist engineered virus; it doesn’t affect mass crowds trying to destroy the foundation of the country, but it is ruthless in small bars where someone tries to forget for a while what is being done to our freedoms.
    GOT TO BE communist. OK, maybe just democrat.

    1. GOT TO BE communist. OK, maybe just democrat.

      That’s bait right there.

      1. I just call them like I see them.
        The Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP), the predecessor of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, was formed in 1898.

    2. Texas is governed by Democrats now?

  7. Did they forget to clean out the A/C?

  8. Maybe the reason South Dakota is seeing cases drop is that it have a population of less than one million and is not a real destination spot. South Dakota practices social distancing in everyday activity without really trying. What states like Texas and Florida are finding out is that containing an epidemic in a large mobile population is more difficult and will require more interventions. Ideally these would be voluntarily imposed, but as we are seeing the government will step in at some point.

    1. I thought all the ‘protesters’ were headed there to blow up Mount Rushmore.

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      2. They took a wrong turn at the 84th Wall Drug sign

    2. And they didn’t have massive BLM “super spreader” protests.

    3. Now make up excuses for Washington and Pennsylvania spiking.

  9. Another wise, noble and ambitious decision to ensure the masses do not have fun or make money.
    Employing this fake COV-19 crisis was sheer genius to keep the filthy, near-illiterate people in line.
    It makes you wonder why our obvious betters didn’t think of this sooner.

  10. This article doesn’t mention it but another part of the order is that gatherings of 100 or more people are banned within the state of Texas unless the local authorities specifically approve. I cannot even process how insane that is. Let’s go over this again:
    – Any gathering of 100 or more people is supposedly unsafe unless
    – The local authorities approve.
    Not “unless measures X, Y, and Z are taken”, not “unless everyone can be confirmed to be COVID-free”. No, apparently the safety of large groups of people is not determined through any empirical means, but rather by the whims and feelings of the mayor (or county judge for unincorporated areas, just in case you thought living alone in the tumbleweeds would exempt you from such absurdities).

    The limit has a couple exceptions to it, all of which are apparently safe enough according to Abbott even if I can’t figure out what specifically is so much safer about them aside from their potency at the ballot box:
    Activities without any limits
    – Any industry the feds have marked as “essential”
    – Religious services of any kind
    – Local government operations
    – Child care services
    – Youth camps
    – Recreational sports programs
    Activities limited to “50 capacity” as defined by the owner
    – Professional and collegiate sports
    – Swimming pools
    – Water parks
    – Museums and libraries
    – Zoos, aquariums, naturals caverns and “similar facilities”
    – Rodeos and equestrian events
    – Amusement parks

    The mask is really starting to slip here. If all of these things are supposedly safe enough for hundreds of people to go to why are other, completely arbitrary, gatherings prohibited? Are political rallies less safe than sporting events? Is a family reunion less “essential” than a visit to a water park or a rodeo? Why is the mayor of any particular city qualified to make that call? If any of this were about public health, shouldn’t it be some kind of healthcare authority?

    Why is the percentage of revenue an establishment earns from sales of alcohol relevant to whether it must close completely or “merely” be capped at 50% capacity?

    Why are staff members not included in the 100 person cap unless they are manufacturing workers or office workers? Are manufacturing and office workers the only people capable of catching and transmitting COVID-19?

    I can’t wait to hear about all the cities that allow one type of political rally but fail to authorize any others. Thank god for our top men in Austin doing everything in their power to save just one life.

  11. Despite reaching surge capacity, four hospital CEOs said Thursday there’s no cause for “unwarranted alarm.”

    The average ICU occupancy rate at the world’s largest medical center is 70 to 80 percent, but higher rates aren’t unheard of.

    “It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s,” Methodist Hospital CEO Dr. Marc Boom said. “That’s how all hospitals operate.”

    https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/houston-hospitals-ceo-provide-update-on-bed-capacity-amid-surge-in-covid-19-cases/285-a5178aa2-a710-49db-a107-1fd36cdf4cf3

    To put this in perspective…

    Only a third of the ICU is dedicated to Covid at the moment, and it hasn’t really grown the last week as a percent. Much of the ICU use is from the backlog of elective surgeries that were held off on during the first irrational panic. This created a huge backlog of need for ICU. Texas, and Arizona/Florida, already have surge plans in place that can grow 50% in Arizona (minimum, before reaching out to Plastic Surgery centers) and 89% in Florida. That gives a buffer of a 600% roughly now that elective surgeries are again being slowed down.

    And to be clear… it’s fine if you die from not getting your “elective” gall bladder removed/heart stint implanted. It’s just covid people are chicken little about.

  12. Oh DeSantis, you’d been doing so well.
    -1

  13. Any time they leave out actual numbers, I feel like we’re being gaslighted. What exactly is a “surge” in an area with 6 million people? Is it 3 new cases, 30 new cases, 300 new cases, 3,000 new cases?

    1. It is about 300 icu patients. I wont bother quoting how many live in Texas, because it hurts the narrative.

    2. Its all MSM lies.

      Any “surge” comes from more and more testing of people.

      Most Americans have likely been exposed to the KungFlu and we only have 124k deaths of people who died of something and were infected with Wuhanvirus.

      Out of 330 million Americans. 650k Americans die every year of heart disease.

      The plan for Lefties is to:
      1) Destroy life as we know it in the USA
      2) Stay in power via tyranny and silencing of dissenters
      3) Enable mail in voting for every voter so Trump can be beaten via corruption elections
      4) If Trump is somehow reelected after all these tactics, step-up violence

      1. “Any “surge” comes from more and more testing of people.”

        Not necessarily, though that’s certainly a factor. People have been locked up for months, now they’re getting out and about. This virus is pretty contagious, so it’s spreading. There was a PSU study published a few days ago that posits that the actual number of cases is 80 times what we think. It’s really contagious, but mostly harmless.

        This has been patently obvious for months, yet for some reason the states and the feds haven’t changed course. It’s easy to write that off as hubris, but it sure feels more nefarious than that.

        What’s so depressing is how many people – left and right – are buying into this BS. We’re being divided intentionally. We’re being pitted against one another, and it’s ripping the country apart. “Governing” is all but impossible; now elected officials are forced to pander to the mob, lest they be cancelled. People cheered when politicians were driven out of restaurants. People defended the mob that laid siege to Tucker Carlson’s house. People cheer mobs that are destroying public and private property.

        And it’s going to get worse no matter who wins in November.

  14. Gee its almost like Florida, the state where people went on the news proudly stating they don’t care/believe any of the Covid warnings/precautions and do whatever the heck they want, might be getting some blowback on that uncaring attitude.

    1. It’s almost like alarmists still dont understand statistics.

      1. Its almost like there’s a thing called viruses that spread diseases.

        1. What does that have to do with understanding statistics?

    2. More testing=more cases

      As this virus works its way thru the USA, some Americans will die, some will be hospitalized, and most will be just fine.

      Just like the Flu/Cold every year.

      1. So why does the US have more cases than any other country while also having one of the worst testing regimes? Do you even know what you’re saying, or are you just regurgitating some words Trump said in random order?

        1. Your cite fell off for worst testing regimes. Let me help you with that:

          https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand-map

          Here we see proof that Tony is an illiterate partisan fuck who lies about easily verifiable things.

    3. Just for the record: The United States Census Bureau estimates that the population of Florida was 21,477,737 on July 1, 2019.
      Please try to find a friend that can do math to explain to you what that means.

  15. I read a disqus comment from a hospital personnel who claimed that patients who arrive are now automatically tested for Covid. If they test positive, then they have to be isolated at an ICU even if they’re healthy and don’t require ventilators. Texas lifted restrictions on elective procedures (now reversed) and with the amount of people and demographics that they have, its small wonder their hospitals are be swamped.

    The media obsesses over new cases in big red states and will refuse to highlight the fact that 99% of them will be healthy and asymptomatic. Texas and Florida have more people to infect, and given that they reopened recently and tests are ramping up, 5,000 new cases and higher infection rate on young people wouldn’t be THAT unusual. More or comparable amount of people actually die in IL, NJ and MA despit having less people.

    Meanwhile CA reopened later and now it has more case and deaths than Texas or Florida. For all intents and purposes, it is he first victim bitten by the Floyd protests. This place had only 400ish deaths not that long ago.

    1. Even if a person tests positive and is asymptomatic, they’re still carriers and can spread to people who very well could end up NOT asymptomatic.

      1. You’re a food useful idiot. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

        1. Ok. You’re apparently a smart one. Are you claiming that an asymptomatic person with Covid is safe to do nothing at all different?

          1. We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

            “Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 Era,” New England Journal of Medicine

            1. That doesn’t say asymptomatic people are harmless or doesn’t infect other people.

              1. Life has risks. Anytime you venture outside your risk of catching some infection increases.

                Your parents failed you.

                1. My parents taught me to wash my hands and cover my face when I cough or sneeze.

                  Apparently that’s more then yours ever taught you.

                  1. Well, they didnt teach you to read or how important education was because you are falling for Lefty Propaganda.

                    1. And Im sure this entire site of Libertarian Propaganda can be trusted apparently.

                    2. Hahaha, imagine thinking this site was Libertarian Propoganda.

                2. Thank you for finally admitting you’re a piece of shit.

                  1. How does someone acknowledging reality make them a piece of shit?

              2. It also doesn’t say to fetishize mask-wearing, either.

                1. It’s the people who think basic safety precautions are unmanly who have the psychological problem.

                  1. You are correct, it is unmanly to be excessively safety conscious. This is one of the fundamental differences between men and women; by nature women are risk averse and want to be protected and taken care of. Not bad traits for ensuring offspring make it to adulthood, but horrible for governing a society. Men SHOULD BE strong and willing to sacrifice safety and security for progress and adventure, and more interested in the strongest and most intelligent survive than “fairness.” Unfortunately we are seeing the results of the feminization of society over the past hundred years (at least) giving us crap like seatbelt laws and mask nannies.

                    1. How about those very manly idiots confine their recklessness to themselves? Masks are to protect the people around you. I don’t know why this is so goddamn difficult. Maybe it has something to do with simian-brained preoccupations with masculinity signaling taking up the space where thoughts should go.

                    2. Masks are to protect the people around you.

                      We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

                      “Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 Era,” New England Journal of Medicine

                    3. Maybe it has something to do with simian-brained preoccupations with masculinity signaling taking up the space where thoughts should go.

                      “Simian-brained masculinity” is for survival of the fittest. “Thoughts” are for those who are in debt to the former for creating a society where they don’t have to worry about such things–hence, why every great society eventually falls into decadence and is eventually rolled like a bitch by those who take the former more seriously.

                    4. You’re just wrong about what science currently says about the effectiveness of masks. We wouldn’t have to debate anything if you would just go read up.

  16. “It is clear that the rise in cases is largely driven by certain types of activities, including Texans congregating in bars,” said Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) in a press release. This is speculation. It it not in any way ‘clear’.

  17. Wisconsin is another counterexample. The doors were thrown open on a state level on May 13th following the supreme court decision, and bars were open that night. Yes, some counties and cities may have implemented their own restrictions, but certainly not around here. Bars have been packed ever since, and events like races, etc. have been going on as normal for a few weeks. Of course masks aren’t required or used very much. Our cases haven’t increased inordinately since then, positive test rate actually dropped quite a bit (today was the highest in a while at a little over 5%), deaths have held steady or dropped (today was the second day in a week with no reported deaths). Not sure what the critical difference is, but I’ll take it.

    1. I honestly think there were certain parts of the country that this virus blew through back in December and January before anyone noticed. A lot of the midwest, most of California, etc… That’s part of the reason you aren’t seeing new cases.

      1. Most of CA isn’t seeing new cases, LA and OC has enough people to infect the southern half of the state in a hurry. And Arizona is right next door.

      2. That’s a theory, and it makes some sense based on what we are seeing now and prior to WuFlu becoming a thing (pretty severe flu going around early in the year, with at least one local school closing for a few days because of it, which I don’t recall happening before. But it doesn’t make much sense otherwise for a virus of foreign origin. Seems unlikely for something like that to sweep through middle America before manifesting itself in the cosmopolitan urban centers.

    2. This virus was brought by foreigners and people traveling from outside the USA.

      Texas has a huge immigrant and illegal population. KungFlu and bad health dont mix.

      Wisconsin does not have the numbers of foreigners in their midst.

      Georgia has the busiest airport in the World and huge populations of new Americans. Only 2k have died in Georgia. Hardly anyone wears masks here.

      1. How does the virus tell where its victims are from?

        1. Documentation that is in proper order

          The ability to know things that only Americans can know. eg Who is a better American – Ted Williams or Ted Bundy? How much does it cost to fill up your gas tank? Dem or Rep?

  18. I will seriously laugh my ass off if a bunch of these woke protesters, who were largely younger and scolding people for wanting to break lockdown because it might have stopped the luxury gay space communist fun ride, end up getting sick and overwhelming the medical system.

    I guess dying to bring about universal healthcare is one way to help the cause.

    1. You’ll laugh your ass off if the American healthcare system gets overwhelmed by a novel deadly pandemic? I must go to one of your parties.

      1. I’ll laugh my ass off if your fellow leftists die coughing up their lungs for social justice.

  19. I’m going to assume that Florida Man has a still in the swamp behind his house, so it won’t be too much of an impact to him.

  20. This should mean Reason owes viewers an apology, right?

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  23. No mention of the super spreader BLM protests with massive crowds?

    Lol, even Reason is afraid to print the whole truth.

  24. This is on young people being young people, not the governor.

    1. It’s on every politician who turned a virus into a political football, and who gave permission to people to defy common sense and ignore their own and other people’s safety in the name of the fundamental freedom to get a perm. This eternal existential battle being waged on FOX News for the sweet dear fetuses has turned all your brains into twitching mush. And that stops being cute when it starts to affect me, something libertarians understood before Tucker gave them permission to be psychopaths.

        1. Calling liberals hypocrites won’t protect you.

      1. I love that you guys keep pushing the perm and Applebee’s thing like millions upon millions of people didn’t lose their jobs or businesses. Really puts the truth to all your lying about caring for the little guy.

        Oh and you can come off your high horse pretending you give a fuck about the health and safety of your fellow man.

  25. yes, and Florida counties fight coronavirus surge by closing beaches.

  26. I know that it may seem odd that cases are surging in Washington state even though bars are mostly closed here, but it actually makes perfect sense because a) The Eastern half of the state is overwhelmingly Republican and they’ve bought into the idiotic culture war against masks as some form of government overreach and also b) Outbreaks in the prison populations because the guards are likely Republicans who buy into the aforementioned culture war.

    1. Or, it could be because Seattle is a filthy sewer and a bunch of Marxists were running around breathing in each other’s fetid stench for the last couple of weeks.

      1. Nope, only republicans. It’s the only explanation.

  27. Tony et al. see no problem demanding (forcing with threat of violence) others modify their behavior so that he feels safe. Tony is less inclined to stay at home, wear a mask and take it upon himself to avoid infection by others.

    Unfortunately that kind of thinking leads to authoritarianism. But Tony is a fan of authority, so that’s not a problem for him. It’s only a problem if you think living your life for others is immoral.

  28. This is just crazy. To do this to businesses who are just getting back on their feet is really unbelievable.

    I fear these asshole politicians will think nothing of shutting down the economy a second time. After all, they ain’t paying for it.

    Just crazy.

  29. Hey, Christian. Did those businesses shut themselves down?

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  31. So we are going to destroy most of the economy based on the fact that more people are being tested for this not very dangerous disease. Many of these new “cases” are asymptomatic. Based on Sweden’s example, we should not have closed anything anyway. The lessons our idiot leaders are teaching us are that if law abiding citizens need to go to the streets and destroyed property and terrorized the cities to get the right thing to be done. Now these idiots think they can mandate whatever the hell they want whenever they want to based on their own, proven to be faulty judgement.

  32. You mean there has been an uptick in Seattle, the city with it’s own dedicated 24-hour police-free protest zone? Houston, with a huge memorial service for George Floyd? Dallas, which saw large protests in recent weeks?

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