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Democratic Governors Threaten Business Owners Who Reopen Ahead of Schedule

Plus: Most people started practicing social distancing well before the government forced them, Elon Musk plans to defy lockdown orders, and more...

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Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, issued a stern warning to small-business owners in his state: Reopen ahead of schedule and suffer the consequences.

"Dine-in restaurants that open in counties that have not been authorized to reopen will risk receiving a citation," Wolf wrote on Twitter. "These citations can ultimately lead to the loss of a restaurant's liquor license."

If local officials turn a blind eye to irresponsible reopening, the state will punish them by withholding stimulus funds.

"I won't sit back and watch residents who live in counties under Stay at Home orders get sick because local leaders cannot see the risks of #COVID19 and push to reopen prematurely," wrote Wolf.

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, also a Democrat, followed through on a similar threat, announcing that the health department would indefinitely close a restaurant that had opened for dine-in service over the weekend.

Texas has gone in a different direction. As frustration with the lockdown increases among some small-business owners, Gov. Greg Abbot, a Republican, has eliminated jail as a potential punishment for defiers. Meanwhile, the Dallas salon owner who was jailed for continuing to operate her business is now a free woman—and even gave Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Tex.) a haircut.

Media commentators who tend to be more positively disposed toward continuing the lockdowns tend to point out that the public is actually broadly supportive of them. Of course, the lockdowns affect everyone differently, and it might very well be the case that a small but vocal sector—small-business owners—feels differently. (Also, word choice matters here: Widespread public approval of social distancing measures, which could still be practiced even during a partial reopening, is not quite the same thing as support for a complete shutdown of the economy.)

While it's important for public officials to listen to health experts and reopen slowly in line with the guidance from the White House, heavy-handed enforcement in the face of mounting opposition is a questionable strategy. Bullying people into obedience isn't sustainable.

In any case, available evidence suggests that most people began to follow social distancing protocols before governments formally shut down public life. According to FiveThirtyEight:

But, at least on the front end of this crisis, Americans weren't deciding what to do based on politics. Americans living in red states appear to have taken the crisis plenty seriously; data shows that residents there were staying home well before their governors issued stay-at-home orders.

Cuebiq, a private data company, assessed the movement of people via GPS-enabled mobile devices across the U.S. If you look at movement data in a cross-section of states President [Donald] Trump won in the southeast in 2016—Tennessee, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina and Kentucky—23 percent of people were staying home on average during the first week of March. That proportion jumped to 47 percent a month later across these six states.

If defying social distancing orders were really a political statement, you'd think that the southeast would be a hotbed for dissent. Yet people in the six states we examined changed their behavior around mid-March, before the states' official stay-at-home orders. In fact, about 90 percent of the total change between early March and mid-April had occurred in the week before the stay-at-home orders were passed in each state.

This suggests that intimidating dissenters should not a critical component of a state government's strategy for enforcing quarantines.

FREE MINDS

Twitter announced Monday that it will add labels to certain tweets that contain misleading information about coronavirus:

These labels will link to a Twitter-curated page or external trusted source containing additional information on the claims made within the Tweet.

Depending on the propensity for harm and type of misleading information, warnings may also be applied to a Tweet. These warnings will inform people that the information in the Tweet conflicts with public health experts' guidance before they view it.

While false or misleading content can take many different forms, we will take action based on three broad categories:

  • Misleading information — statements or assertions that have been confirmed to be false or misleading by subject-matter experts, such as public health authorities.
  • Disputed claims — statements or assertions in which the accuracy, truthfulness, or credibility of the claim is contested or unknown.
  • Unverified claims — information (which could be true or false) that is unconfirmed at the time it is shared.

It's not clear exactly who will be making the determination about whether a tweet is false or misleading: the company says that it will rely on "trusted partners." Twitter is a private company and can do whatever it wants, but vetting the factual accuracy of every claim that appears on the platform is probably logistically quite hard.

FREE MARKETS

Tesla CEO Elon Musk will reopen his California factory in defiance of lockdown orders and is threatening to move his business to either Texas or Nevada, where the tax and regulatory environment is less hostile. According to CNN:

The decision follows the executive's sharp Twitter outbursts in recent weeks objecting to state lockdown orders meant to stem the spread of the novel coronavirus. In a tweet on Monday, Musk said he would be at the factory, "on the line with everyone else."

"If anyone is arrested, he tweeted, "I ask that it only be me."

Musk has argued that restrictions closing non-essential businesses put in place by Alameda County, where Tesla's Fremont factory is based, are overly aggressive and unconstitutional. On Saturday, the company filed a federal lawsuit against the county. Musk has also threatened to relocate Tesla's headquarters out of California and suggested he might move manufacturing from there as well.

In a statement Monday afternoon, county officials said they are negotiating with Tesla on a plan to reopen the plant more fully.

QUICK HITS

  • New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo released a plan to reopen his state.
  • Emergency room visits for non-coronavirus medical issues—asthma attacks, for example—are substantially down.
  • Los Angeles will reopen beaches on Wednesday, but only for physical activity.
  • White House staffers are now required to wear masks.
  • The Department of Justice is considering filing hate crime charges against Gregory and Travis McMichael, who were arrested for shooting and killing Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed black man who was out jogging.
  • Trump angrily cut his Monday press briefing short after CNN's Kaitlan Collins refused to back down when the president ignored her.

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  1. Reopen ahead of schedule and suffer the consequences.

    “Insolent creatures!”

    1. I am not replying to anyone in particular. Just here to say that Reason has become abysmally boring. Not cutting edge at all, considering the circumstances. Yawn, yawn, and I say this as a full fledged libertarian. These articles are milk toast, not addressing what is happening at all, in the face of full fledged fear mongering to fit a political agenda, wide spread media censorship, and Reason has nothing to say about this? Not even an opinion. Just regurgitation of, I don’t even know what.

      1. That’s why all the cool kids are Glibertarians now!

      2. Journalism, for the most part, was meant to be without opinion and sensationalism. Too many think they’re supposed to be our watchdogs, but that’s where the people lost power. Unfortunately there is so much to watch these days, nobody can keep up. Distraction is the goal and they are great at it.

        1. Reason magazine, for the most part has always been a libertarian publication. It has always (in the past,anyway) presented libertarian opinion and news as seen through a libertarian lens. Lately (especially since the election of Trump) they have become just another leftist screech fest. The few liberty oriented authors left are drowned out by the massive TDS and constant equivocations designed to avoid offending the hardcore left and anti-fa. There still libertarian voices out there and sometimes even here. I started reading reason in the late eighties, for context. Sorry, if this is too local for you all.

  2. heavy-handed enforcement in the face of mounting opposition is a questionable strategy

    They why do they keep doing it?

    1. It’s about power and ego, not health and reason

    2. Because it’s the only way most of them can get it up? Just thinking about fining people for daring to defy their edicts is enough to give most fascists a semi.

    3. Authoritarian boners?

    4. Because it is something and we must do something.

    5. because Freedom is Slavery?

    6. Because they won’t be punished. Courts should be quick to knock this down, but they love power too.

    7. because columnists won’t go deeper than “questionable strategy”

  3. <i.If local officials turn a blind eye to irresponsible reopening, the state will punish them by withholding stimulus funds.

    Time for the people’s president to bypass tyrannical governors and go straight to the people!

    1. That’s my question, how much discretion does the executive branch have with the funds, can they just give it directly to the municipalities? Would love to have a ringside seat for that one.
      I still believe they have painted themselves in a corner and have no way out now. If they double down and start sending state police to enforce the orders they will look like tyrants that will cause a feedback loop. More people will resist the orders leading to more draconian measures leading to more resistance…even violent resistance, that will lead to violent enforcement.
      If they do nothing, then people will start realizing how precarious and dependent on them the power of government is which will lead to more disobedience and so on.
      All this started getting my conspiracy hackles up, that the dems where pushing to make this worse and trying to recreate the good old 30’s when all these social programs we still have today got started and then read an article about Biden wanting to emulate FDR!

      1. Another thing to keep in mind is that these are Executive orders. As such they did not go through the legislative process. They’ve never been presented as a bill, been discussed in committee or voted on. So are they laws? Is there a legal difference between defying an exec. directive and breaking a law. Like the funding issue these orders should be the work of the representatives and not the executive.

  4. I won’t sit back and watch residents who live in counties under Stay at Home orders get sick because local leaders cannot see the risks of #COVID19 and push to reopen prematurely…

    The people themselves, you see, have no say.

    1. Maybe there are health risks with staying home all of the time. I guess if you never leave your house you will live forever. Who knew?

    2. I won’t sit back

      Is that a threat to violate the Stay-At-Home Order?

  5. MAJOR #TRUMPRUSSIA UPDATE!!!

    Russia’s goal was never merely to elect Donald Trump,
    @FranklinFoer writes. It was to bring down American democracy. Now Vladimir Putin is poised to complete the mission he began four years ago.

    Don’t fall for the desperate conservative spin that China is the real problem. In fact, Russia remains the most urgent global threat.

    #LibertariansForGettingToughWithRussia

    1. By giving Russia power and saying the election was rigged… Liberals fight Russia… or something.

  6. Twitter announced Monday that it will add labels to certain tweets that contain misleading information about coronavirus…

    I knew we got to the stage that we know all there is to know about COVID-19.

    1. Settled science.

    2. Wonder if they will now start censoring people who use Chinese Virus. We know it is European!

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/andrew-cuomo-labels-coronavirus-the-european-virus-in-latest-press-briefing

      1. Wuhan is somewhere near Luxembourg, right?

      2. Since NYC is known to have been a vector for a lot of the early cases in other states due to tourists returning home, I’d say it’s appropriate for Americans to call C19 the “New York Ciy Virus.”

  7. Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat

    *golf clap*

    1. He’s like Punxsutawney Phil. He sticks he’s head out of his burrow and declares 6 more weeks of house arrest.
      What a douche

    2. those last nine letters likely painful

  8. One of these counties is Huntingdon County in Pennsylvania, which exceeds Governor Sheep’s-Clothing’s numerical limit for one reason: there are lots of cases in the state prison and hardly any anywhere else in the county. So local merchants are supposed to stay shut because a government-run facility can’t keep the virus from spreading in its own facility. Don’t they social-distance in the state prison? Or would that be cruel and unusual punishment?

    1. Yes they are. Because people in prisons and nursing homes in New York City are dying, healthy people in Kansas must be shut in their homes to stop it. This is what these people seem to actually think.

      1. Does anybody believe NYC would shutdown for Idaho if the roles were reversed?

        1. Hell no. If this stuff affected white men between the ages of 30 and 60 with normal testosterone levels, the country would have literally done nothing to stop it.

          1. From https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly-coronavirus-special-edition/2020/04/29/covids-war-on-women-489076 (third sentence of the article):

            “It’s true that more men are dying than women from Covid-19 around the world – but that’s not exactly cause for celebration.”

            I guess the owners of jezebel.com should hold off on popping those champagne corks…

        2. That’s a good idea. If schools in Idaho are closed because of excess snow, schools in NYC should be closed as well.

  9. On Saturday, the company filed a federal lawsuit against the county.

    I look forward to the United States Supreme Court deciding the constitutionality of lockdowns in a very narrow and ultimately useless ruling five years from now.

    1. I look forward to them refusing to consider it in the first place.

    2. It won’t be useless if we’re still hiding in our homes, waiting for a vaccine (and haven’t starved to death).

  10. Ban the CDC; they spread misinformation:

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

    There were 3 influenza pandemics in the 20th century, and there has been 1 so far in the 21st century. Local, national, and international health authorities regularly update their plans for mitigating the next influenza pandemic in light of the latest available evidence on the effectiveness of various control measures in reducing transmission. Here, we review the evidence base on the effectiveness of nonpharmaceutical personal protective measures and environmental hygiene measures in nonhealthcare settings and discuss their potential inclusion in pandemic plans. Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. We similarly found limited evidence on the effectiveness of improved hygiene and environmental cleaning. We identified several major knowledge gaps requiring further research, most fundamentally an improved characterization of the modes of person-to-person transmission.

    1. So what will work? Do we all become “bubble boys?” [I know, I know: don’t give them any ideas.]

      1. We don’t do anything about it. Life is dangerous, deal with it.

        1. But participation culture highlights how fragile humans are…

    2. but we have to participate in the theater of this, just like TSA.
      Why do you hate the performing arts?

      1. *** jazz fingers ***

        1. Just one finger

  11. The #DrumpfDepression continues to destroy the lives of working people.

    As Hospitals Lose Revenue, More Than A Million Health Care Workers Lose Jobs

    More. Than. A. Million. Lost. Jobs. And that’s just in health care!

    How can an economy recover when millions of people become unemployed within a couple months? Koch / Reason libertarianism provides the answer. And it’s exactly what we advised when the unemployment rate was too low: unlimited, unrestricted immigration.

    #OpenBordersWillFixEverything
    #ImmigrationAboveAll

    1. “More. Than. A. Million. Lost. Jobs.”

      But everyone was working two jobs, right? AOC said so.

      So all those people still have one job.

      1. No fucks given. These are the same assholes that choked off their own medical practices in favor of focusing entirely on coof coverage, and told people to stay home.

        Tell the governor to set up a field hospital solely for for coof patients, re-open your practice, or shut the fuck up and watch your practice die.

  12. Gee, We Can’t Imagine Why LA Jail Inmates Would Intentionally Infect Themselves With COVID-19, Either
    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2020/05/11/gee-we-cant-imagine-why-la-jail-inmates-would-intentionally-infect-themselves-with-covid-19-either-n389875

    Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva has presided over the release of 5,000 criminals from jail to prevent a potential “catastrophic” spread of COVID-19.

    1. I guess if it’s any consolation, a lot of these chollos will head home and infect their fat family members, so he might actually end up cutting down the number of illegal immigrants organically.

      1. You forgot to say, “I don’t want to sound racist, but…”

    2. Non-criminals remain in lockdown, however – – – – – – – – –

      (and have to provide their own jails and food)

  13. “If you look at movement data in a cross-section of states President [Donald] Trump won in the southeast in 2016—Tennessee, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina and Kentucky—23 percent of people were staying home on average during the first week of March”

    In other words, the Hillary voters in those states were staying home.
    Oh, and thanks for including [Donald] in the quote to make it clear which President Trump won those states.

  14. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo released a plan to reopen his state.

    Phase One: Beg the federal government for something
    Phase Two: Cry about federal government
    Phase Three: ???
    Phase Four: Get heaps of praise from journalists despite getting everyone unemployed and killed

  15. Emergency room visits for non-coronavirus medical issues—asthma attacks, for example—are substantially down.

    Asthmatics were faking it the whole time!

    1. The virus killed them all. We just haven’t found the bodies yet.

    2. Not surprising. Fear of death overcomes the insurance-paid medical provider visit that gets sympathy from ones friends and co-workers.
      However, most people don’t seek medical treatment for allergies, or even the flu even absent relentless “doctor offices will kill you” news bulletins. This is, of course, why no one can tell the real fatality rate from getting the “regular” flu or the “Chinavirus” that strikes so many mildly or asymptomatically.

  16. My fav part of this is the “credentialed expert”, Ferguson, has his credentials in theoretical physics, not disease.

    https://philbull.wordpress.com/2020/05/10/why-you-can-ignore-reviews-of-scientific-code-by-commercial-software-developers/

    The strategies being used to undermine SAGE advisers will be familiar to anyone who has worked in fields related to climate change or vaccination in recent decades. I will focus on one in particular here — the use of “experts” in other fields to cast doubt on the soundness of the actual experts in the field itself. In particular, this is an attempt to explain what’s so problematic about articles like this one, which are being used as ammunition for disingenuous political pieces like this one [paywall]. Both articles are clearly written with a particular political viewpoint in mind, but they have a germ of credibility in that the critique is supposedly coming from an expert in something that seems relevant. In this case, the (anonymous) expert claims to be a professional software developer with 30 years’ experience, including working at a well-regarded software company. They are credentialled, so they must be credible, right? Who better to review the Imperial group’s epidemiology code than a software developer?

    …Let’s not lose sight of the bigger picture here though. The point of the Lockdown Sceptics article is to challenge the validity of the Imperial code by painting it as shoddy, and presumably, therefore, to undermine the basis of particular actions that may have taken note of SAGE advice. For this to actually be the case, though, the Imperial group must have (a) evaded detection for over 10 years from a global community of competing experts; (b) be almost criminally negligent as scientists, by having ignored easily-discovered but consequential bugs; (c) be almost criminally arrogant to suppose that their unchecked/flawed model should be used to inform such big decisions; and (d) for the entire scientific advisory establishment to have been taken for a ride without any thought to question what they were being told. Boiling this all down, the author is calling several hundred eminent scientists — in the UK and elsewhere — complete idiots, while they, through maybe half an hour of cursory inspection, have found the “true, flawed” nature of the code through a series of noddy issues.

    This is clearly very silly, as even an ounce of introspection would have revealed to the author of that article had they started out with innocent motives. Their “code review” is no such thing however — instead, it is a blatant hatchet job, of the kind we have come to expect from climate change deniers and other anti-science types. The article author’s expertise in software development (which I will recognise, despite their anonymity) is of entirely the wrong type to actually, meaningfully, review this codebase, and is clearly misapplied. You may as well ask a Java UI programmer to review security bugs in the Linux kernel. To then rejoice in the fact that this has been picked up by an obviously lop-sided wing of the press and used to push a potentially harmful agenda, against the best scientific evidence we have, is chilling.

    1. https://lockdownsceptics.org/second-analysis-of-fergusons-model/

      ICL staff claimed the released and original code are “essentially the same functionally”, which is why they “do not think it would be particularly helpful to release a second codebase which is functionally the same”.

      In fact the second change in the restored history is a fix for a critical error in the random number generator. Other changes fix data corruption bugs (another one), algorithmic errors, fixing the fact that someone on the team can’t spell household, and whilst this was taking place other Imperial academics continued to add new features related to contact tracing apps.

      The released code at the end of this process was not merely reorganised but contained fixes for severe bugs that would corrupt the internal state of the calculations. That is very different from “essentially the same functionally”.

    2. https://medium.com/@timalmond/coding-stochastic-models-testing-and-bugs-ac85e26cce3d

      As an aside, we can’t even do the calculations by hand, because there is no specification for the function, so whether the code is even doing what it is supposed to do is impossible to tell. We should be able to take the specification and write our own tests and check the results. Without that, the code is worthless.

    3. The entire field of infectious disease modeling reminds me of climate modeling. Mathematical modeling of any sort is really multi disciplinary. You have to know the math, but then you also have to know how to code and know the underlying biology of the virus involved as well as more than a little bit about human behavior.

      No one person is going to know all of that. You would need a team of people. Moreover, it would be impossible to model an new virus because the biology isn’t known. Guys like Ferguson are just con men. They show up with some fancy math and a few credentials and sell easy answers to politicians wanting to “do something” without any regard to the limitations of modeling in general or few of the actual expertise necessary to do what is possible.

    4. Um, yes:

      (b) be almost criminally negligent as scientists, by having ignored easily-discovered but consequential bugs; (c) be almost criminally arrogant to suppose that their unchecked/flawed model should be used to inform such big decisions; and (d) for the entire scientific advisory establishment to have been taken for a ride without any thought to question what they were being told.

      https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/six-questions-that-neil-ferguson-should-be-asked

      In 2005, Ferguson said that up to 200 million people could be killed from bird flu. He told the Guardian that ‘around 40 million people died in 1918 Spanish flu outbreak… There are six times more people on the planet now so you could scale it up to around 200 million people probably.’ In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

      In 2009, Ferguson and his Imperial team predicted that swine flu had a case fatality rate 0.3 per cent to 1.5 per cent. His most likely estimate was that the mortality rate was 0.4 per cent. A government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a ‘reasonable worst-case scenario’ was that the disease would lead to 65,000 UK deaths.

      In the end swine flu killed 457 people in the UK and had a death rate of just 0.026 per cent in those infected.

      In 2002, Ferguson predicted that between 50 and 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. He also predicted that number could rise to 150,000 if there was a sheep epidemic as well. In the UK, there have only been 177 deaths from BSE.

      1. “As an aside, we can’t even do the calculations by hand”

        If you have a mathmatical problem with multiple variables and you create a program to solve it you must be able to insert variables that will give you a known answer. thats how you test programs. but if you can’t do that as they are saying then its not a good program its like making a program that gives you 2+2 = 5. its one thing to use a computer to give you pie to a billion spaces but another when it gives you nothing

    5. left this out

      https://philbull.wordpress.com/2020/05/10/why-you-can-ignore-reviews-of-scientific-code-by-commercial-software-developers/

      Second, there’s no saying that the taxpayer paid for most of the code (it could be funded by a charitable foundation like the Wellcome Trust for example), and the code will likely remain the IP of the author, but with Imperial retaining a perpetual license to it. Instead, the obligation for openness here comes from the publications that use the code….Note that some scientists are cagey about releasing their code fully publicly because they worry about competitors co-opting it (and not without good reason).

    6. It would definitely be much more user-friendly to document the equations, but does it mean that the code is bad? No.

      Does it mean that the *model* is bad? Probably.

      Thanks for staying on the case, Ra’s al Gore.

    7. To then rejoice in the fact that this has been picked up by an obviously lop-sided wing of the press and used to push a potentially harmful agenda, against the best scientific evidence we have, is chilling.

      This knob-gobbler clearly has a very different definition of “chilling.” It’s not “chilling” in the sense of being scary at all, unless one find dissenting opinions that challenge their preconceived biases to be scary, which this moron obviously does.

    8. Thanks for posting all of these links, though I won’t be able to dig into the ICL code until this weekend at best.

  17. Los Angeles will reopen beaches on Wednesday, but only for physical activity.

    To enforce this shark-like stay-moving-at-all-cost behavior, LA will release the beach hounds.

    1. but only for physical activity.
      Sex on the beach.

      1. Only for those of us who can do it from 6 feet away.

        1. So you heard about me?

        2. “Your mother been telling you stories about me again, eh?”

    2. Darn. I was going to go to the beach for mental activity.

      1. So this brings up the question of Yoga. Is Beach Yoga allowed?

        1. No one needs beach yoga. What we need is common sense beach control.

          1. I stand behind beach yoga.

    3. Where’s my $2000 check?
      Gimme gimme gimme gimme
      Who’s being the big bad meanie keeping me from that sweet $$$$?

    4. Or the bees. Or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you.

      1. +500 internets

    5. Anyone have any idea what the rationale is for this distinction between physical activity and inactivity? Is it just, “We have to look like we’re making sophisticated rules with fine distinctions, so we’d better keep it complicated”? Or is there some reason to think you transmit viruses better when you’re not moving than when you are?

  18. https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1259668521048571904

    Potential global inflection point. *BBC* now says the models were garbage, massively overstated risk and caused panic. Lockdown deaths soon on pace to exceed virus deaths in UK. Watch the whole thing.

    1. The funny thing is that they’re doing it to criticize Johnson. There’s no sincerity at all in what they’re talking about.

      These people attached goalposts to rocket launchers and fired away.

  19. White House staffers are now required to wear masks.

    WELL THAT’S NOT FUCKING MAGA AT ALL WTF

    1. What if they have some of Trumps catchy slogans printed on them? I want to see Dr Fauci rocking the “Lock her up” mask.

      1. What if they have some of Trumps catchy slogans printed on them?

        I think I see a “yuge” marketing opportunity here.

        The left has been trying to convince those MAGA deplorable types to knuckle under and wear the masks, I wonder how they’d feel about seeing a bunch of Trump supporters wearing MAGA masks? They should be happy, right? I mean, they’re finally wearing the damn masks, what could they possibly complain about?

  20. https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1259914887221907458

    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is now describing the coronavirus pandemic that originated in Wuhan, China as a “European virus.”

    He said this in today’s presser multiple times.

    Last month he lavished praise on the Chinese government for their efforts in combatting the virus.

    1. Somebody is sucking Chinese dick, hoping for a happy ending.

    2. I can understand how Republicans are portrayed as idiots, because let’s face it, they are. Even their most ardent supporters will admit that they are the Stupid Party.

      But how can Democrats ignore the fact that their party is evil? Leaving aside slavery, the Klan, abortion, race baiting, the Chicago Machine and Tammany, the Solid South and all that for a moment. The fact that they will openly betray their own people to shill for the CCP is actually celebrated by their own victims.
      It’s so blatant and right there, yet the outer party members are still screaming about the Russia hoax.

      1. The biggest idiot part of Republicans is that they consider their Democratic opponents not to be the 100% evil idiots that they are.

        1. Yup, and never underestimate the GOP’s ability to avoid an opportunity and seize defeat from the jaws of victory.

          The only reason the most evil organization in the West since the Nazis has been able to prosper like it does, is because it’s main opposition is selfish, disorganized, short-sighted and stupid.

  21. Robby doing the mourning lynx is 100 times preferable to ENB. Even with his usual “to be sure” crap.

    1. I disagree. I like that ENB focuses on what’s really important during a pandemic: access to abortion care.

      #AbortionAboveAll

      1. And sex workers. Don’t forget about the sex workers.

        1. Why do you think we need so many abortions?

          1. I’m convinced some are for it solely because it kills other people.

  22. The Department of Justice is considering filing hate crime charges against Gregory and Travis McMichael…

    By all fucking means, make them sympathetic, you idiots.

  23. Yea, let’s avoid vaccines we have out of fear of the lack of a covid vaccine.

    Measles vaccinations in U.S. children fall up to 60 percent since pandemic, CDC says
    https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/05/08/Measles-vaccinations-in-US-children-fall-up-to-60-percent-since-pandemic-CDC-says/8641588962260/?sl=4

  24. Trump angrily cut his Monday press briefing short after CNN’s Kaitlan Collins refused to back down when the president ignored her.

    Kaitlan: “Score!”

  25. Disney owns ABC.

    https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1259824085653164032

    THE MAGIC’S BACK: Visitors in face masks stream into Shanghai Disneyland as theme park reopens in high-profile step toward reviving global tourism that was shut down by coronavirus pandemic.

    1. https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1258603291166019584

      “Attacking China has now become the centerpiece for the upcoming 2020 election campaign by an increasingly desperate Republican Party and its vulnerable leadership,” Stephen Roach writes for
      @CNNOpinion

      1. https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1259772245012078594

        China has given a point-by-point rebuttal of the 24 “preposterous allegations and lies” that it said were fabricated by US politicians and media outlets to “shift the blame to China for their inadequate response to Covid-19.”

      2. They are really going to help the Democrats secure the significant voter segment that thinks the Chinese government is the misunderstood victim in all of this

        1. You mean NBA players?

      3. And that got tagged, right?

    2. https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1257890366201769985

      The Trump administration’s accusations that China is behind the coronavirus pandemic are reckless, dangerous, and could push the world to conflict |
      @JeffDSachs
      for
      @cnnopinion

      1. If it gets us out of the house, I am for it.

  26. More bad economic news.

    Reason.com’s benefactor Charles Koch earned $648,000,000 yesterday.

    How is that “bad news” you ask? Well, even with that admittedly respectable haul, he’s still down over $12 billion this year. And his total wealth is still below $50 billion.

    This. Is. Not. Normal.

    #OpenTheBordersToHelpCharlesKoch

    1. Made, not earned.

      1. “You don’t _make_ 648 million dollars, you _steal_ it.” – AOC (probably)

    2. It sure is special how Charles Koch shares his daily financial reports with you.

      1. It really isn’t. As you can see, I get them from Michael Bloomberg’s bloomberg.com.

        Speaking of Bloomberg, he’s yet another billionaire who wants Drumpf out of office. And when billionaires are united against you, you’re obviously a terrible President.

        #BillionairesKnowBest
        #VoteBidenToHelpBillionaires

        1. No one cares.

      2. Lol, I love it when OBL gets Jeff’s knickers in a twist.

  27. Twitter must be tired of being treated as a neutral platform provider and want to be be regulated as a publisher instead. That’s the only reason I can think of why they would want to exercise editorial control over people’s tweets.

    1. Um, you do understand that section 230 SPECIFICALLY says that sites have the freedom to moderate user generated content by whatever standards they want, right? If you started up a forum for knitting and exercised “editorial” control banning articles about Crochet, you would be fully within your rights. If you had a political platform, you could get rid of any non-republican article. This was always the purpose of 230- not to require “neutrality” but to encourage the proliferation of platforms.

      1. They won’t be happy until the government regulates internet providers in their own political interests.

      2. The fact that you think arbitrary rules modification is a standard is one thing. The fact that you ignore that it has been stretched to include contract modifications (Megan Murphy lawsuit) and other legal protections just shows your ignorance.

    2. It’s going to get interesting if Twitter starts tagging Trump’s tweets.

  28. I’m going to enjoy watching them get kicked out of office next election. Along with those RINOs who are Democrat snakes. Seriously they better hope their citizens only vote them out.

  29. https://www.foxnews.com/media/mike-huckabee-coronavirus-lockdown-who

    “Mike Huckabee: Leaders backing ongoing lockdowns should skip paychecks until people can return to work”

    Ugh, hello! Telling people they aren’t allowed to work, thereby saving millions of grandmothers is an ESSENTIAL SERVICE. Would you tell a NURSE or a FIREMAN that they shouldn’t be paid? I never.

    1. The lockdown assholes are making me agree with Mike Huckabee. That alone makes them loathsome.

    2. The screaming isn’t going to start online till the teachers start getting fired.

  30. It’s not clear exactly who will be making the determination about whether a tweet is false or misleading: the company says that it will rely on “trusted partners.”

    “Top. Men.”

    1. Liberals, socialists, fascists; the usual suspects.
      As long as they have a proved track record of hating individual freedoms, they are qualified.

  31. Twitter announced Monday that it will add labels to certain tweets that contain misleading information about coronavirus:

    Twitter also announced that it would tag WHO tweets from January that were clearly wrong.

    Good policy Twitter.

    1. it would not* in regards to WHO.

      1. A trusted partner.

      2. The funny thing is how this will backfire. If Twitter labels something fake news then those who distrust Twitter will flock to them. Kinda of like when I was in middle school, I didn’t want a CD if it didn’t have the parental advisory sticker.

  32. An exercise for our Constitutional scholars:

    Consider this WESTERN STATES PACT in the context of “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, … enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State … unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”

    1. Typo in that right off the bat
      “the honorable Nancy Pelosi”
      I don’t know how you start evil retarded cunt with an “h”

  33. “Napolitano Proposes That University Of California Drop Its ACT/SAT Requirement”
    […]
    “… If UC is unable to either modify or create a test that can be available for fall 2025 freshman applicants from California high schools, the President recommends that UC eliminate altogether its standardized testing requirement for admissions for California students.”…”
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2020/05/12/napolitano-proposes-that-university-of-california-drop-its-actsat-requirement/#4ed17e9d5ace

    Disregarding the value of ‘certification’, the fact remains that, like any good, the seat available at UC are scarce; they must be rationed by some criteria.
    So you’ll now get one of those seats ’cause you’re cute? ‘Cause you know somebody?

    1. GPA is one criteria. The chief criteria I would use. But the proggies will also take into account extra-curricular activities like volunteering for proggie causes.

      In other words, the exact same criteria they’ve always used, except one.

      1. “GPA is one criteria. The chief criteria I would use. ”

        This is why people laugh at you, you’d use a meaningless stat that varies widely and is evidence of nothing because of qualitative differences in schools.

    2. Here’s the ugly truth behind this proposal.

      California eliminated affirmative action years ago via a public initiative. (Of course it took a public initiative because the elites in charge would never remove that policy).

      Fast forward to today and now the UC campus populations are predominantly asian, followed by caucasion. This is unconscionable to the diversity-worshippers.

      One of the reasons for this admissions disparity is SAT scores. These groups tend to score better on those tests*. Thus, we can see that by eliminating the tests as an entrance requirement, a return to more diversity will be achieved.

      *to be fair, kids from these backgrounds are more likely to get SAT training courses which run into the $1000s and do in fact help you get a better score.

  34. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo released a plan to reopen his state.

    Fuck you Rico. the state belongs to the people, not Governor NippleRings.

  35. Why can’t the dummies who are scared of their own shadows stay home instead of telling others what they can and cannot do?

    Oh, right. Because if you go out in public without express government authorization, you want the elderly to die. Silly me.

    1. For some people there is no greater pleasure or meaning in life than that found in virtue signaling. I think it is partially the result of having a secular society. These people have no meaning or purpose in their lives and will latch onto anything that allows them to feel a part of a common cause for good and gives them a sense of moral superiority over some designated other.

      1. “How DARE you!”

      2. The Children of the Revolution
        https://quillette.com/2018/12/18/the-children-of-the-revolution/

        “Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart,” wrote James Baldwin, “for his purity, by definition, is unassailable.” This observation has been confirmed many times throughout history. However, China’s Cultural Revolution offers perhaps the starkest illustration of just how dangerous the “pure in heart” can be. The ideological justification for the revolution was to purge the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), and the nation more broadly, of impure elements hidden in its midst: capitalists, counter-revolutionaries, and “representatives of the bourgeoisie.” To that end, Mao Zedong activated China’s youth—unblemished and uncorrupted in heart and mind—to lead the struggle for purity. Christened the “Red Guards,” they were placed at the vanguard of a revolution that was, in truth, a cynical effort by Mao to reassert his waning power in the Party. Nevertheless, it set in motion a self-destructive force of almost unimaginable depravity.

        1. Mao’s decision to use China’s youth as his vanguard was, by fortune or foresight, instrumental to the revolution’s initial success. The young may be pure in heart, but they are also high on emotion and short on life experience. Simply put, they are natural philistines. Still in their identity-forming years, China’s young had few barriers to a complete identification with the Red Guards. Conformity and intolerance of dissent followed naturally. When students were not attending rallies and struggle sessions, they spent endless hours studying and discussing Mao’s Little Red Book. As Lu Li’an, a former Red Guard, explained, “We were taught only about revolution so when we read the works of propaganda literature we really wanted to be at the head, at the vanguard of revolutionary history.” With undeveloped mental immune systems, their soft skulls were fertile ground for Mao’s secular Manichaeism. Manichaeism reduces society, with all the diversity and complexity of human experience, to a blunt dichotomy: light and darkness, good and evil, right and wrong, radical and reactionary. “There is no middle way!” became a popular slogan. Ideologies like these are intellectually and morally vapid, yet their simplicity and certainty are alluring, especially to the young. Thus, Mao’s child revolutionaries could—with youthful exuberance and clarity of purpose—chain a teacher to a radiator and bludgeon him to death with an iron bar, or force a teacher to eat nails and feces, among other tortures.

      3. “ For some people there is no greater pleasure or meaning in life than that found in virtue signaling. I think it is partially the result of having a secular society”

        Like religious people who need to take every opportunity too tell everybody that they’re religious, and everyone else must be, as well?

        Signal on.

        1. Don’t go forgetting vegans and cross-fitters now.

    2. … you want the elderly [and coloured people] to die

      FTFY

      1. Yes. These same people pride themselves on being able to reframe any given issue into one about People of Color™. This phrase only exploded in popularity because it could be used as a mechanism for silencing dissent.

    3. I can give you the answer for why (note these are not my opinions):

      There is a highly transmissible disease. There is a minimum amount we all must interact with the world, for some of us (Frontline jobs) it’s higher than others. The more you go out and potentially help spread it (externality) the higher risk everyone is in.

      Also by not shutting these things down you’re forcing people to go back to jobs that put them at risk who could otherwise safely be collecting UE.

      1. I support an UBI until the crisis abates. My point is that if people want to go back to work, they should be allowed to. You can’t suspend civil liberties just because of an external threat.

        1. We’re all endangered by your activity Matthew, how dare you?

          I’m in that lovely place in the venn diagram of: Take the virus seriously (ripped through my house hold, my wife got quite sick, I didn’t); Terrified about the government overreach; watching the savings and life I’ve built since graduating start to crumble.

    4. Because it’s not about them staying home, everything they need to do is essential. It’s about everybody else clogging the roads and spreading the virus by not staying home.

      1. Did I say people should go out just for the fun of it? What I oppose is the suspension of civil liberties that has accompanied this virus.

        1. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of the people shaming everybody by taking photos of people in the park or calling the cops. Nobody is too scared to do what they want to do. The hysteria isn’t real for many of the people perpetuating it it’s just a political bludgeon at this point. When this first started I thought it went across party lines now I’ve seen nothing but polls and data suggesting this is a partisan issue at this point.

  36. “Musk has argued that restrictions closing non-essential businesses put in place by Alameda County, where Tesla’s Fremont factory is based, are overly aggressive and unconstitutional. On Saturday, the company filed a federal lawsuit against the county. Musk has also threatened to relocate Tesla’s headquarters out of California and suggested he might move manufacturing from there as well.”

    It’s my understanding that the state of California had already given Tesla the okay to reopen the facility. This is all about local bureaucrats in Alameda County (Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco) asserting their own right to keep Tesla closed.

    And when I say that the progressives that run this county are ALL about signaling and a never-ending social justice war, I’m not exaggerating. Sending Democrats to Sacramento because some Republican elsewhere in the country says something stupid about “legitimate rape” isn’t even the half of it.

    One excellent example of this was their reaction to Proposition 8 (the referendum banning gay marriage) when that was passed in California. Their first reaction was to try to ban political advertising in the state because they claimed Mormons from Utah had flooded the state with misinformation (this was eight years before Trump and “fake news”), but their other reactions were even more telling.

    They tried to ban circumcisions and Happy Meals in reaction to gay marriage being banned.

    To an outside eye, this seems a bizarre and unlikely explanation, but in their minds, banning the ability of parents to circumcise their children and lashing out at the ability of parents to buy their children Happy Meals at McDonalds–that was a perfect and precise retributive reaction to “Breeders” (their slur for heterosexuals who have children) voting to ban gay marriage.

    Their arguments quickly devolved into counter arguments about whether banning circumcision was antisemitic and about whether Happy Meals was sometimes the only affordable option for poor single mothers, but the rationale they gave for those arguments in the first place were mostly just horseshit. They were lashing out at people with children for voting to ban gay marriage–and that’s all it was really about.

    In their minds, right now, reopening the economy is a grass roots, Republican issue that President Trump and white supremacists in Michigan are in favor of–and that is why they oppose reopening the economy in Berkely, Oakland, San Francisco, and Alameda County. Don’t get distracted by bullshit arguments about the relative merits of safety and the economic costs–when those aren’t really the issues. Because President Trump and the Republicans want to reopen the economy, they oppose it–and that’s all there is to it as far as they’re concerned.

    Resist!

    1. That’s why Trump’s head fakes are so entertaining … the media has to flip-flop their arguments with gaslighting dialed up to 11.
      Imagine living in a country without institutionalized ADHD

      1. Like I wrote down below, it really isn’t about Trump at all. It really is about the media’s and the Democrats’ reaction to Trump.

        I’ll give President Trump credit for dancing in a mine field for two months without stepping on a single mine. There were a million ways he could have made a mistake and been blamed for it. The fact that he didn’t can’t just be dumb luck. The president is competent.

        Most of this really is just about the Democrats and the news media breathlessly sure that this was their chance to get rid of him. Just continue to criticize, abuse reality, and resist everything he does–and his support will evaporate underneath him as the economy goes south.

        So they end up doing things like opposing the reopening of a manufacturer on bullshit resistance objections–even as 30 million Americans have filed for unemployment? Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

        If President Trump came out tomorrow in opposition to cannibalism, the news media and the Democrats might call him xenophobic for it, invite people to immigrate here from Papua New Guinea, and propose creating a national monument for the victims of kuru.

    2. Alameda County (Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco)

      Alameda County = Oakland/Berkeley. San Francisco is San Francisco County, on the other side of the Bay.

      But this supports the rest of what you say – locally much of Oakland/Berkeley considers itself a purer kind of Left compared to the fake-Left Capitalists of San Francisco, like Newsom, Pelosi, and Feinstein. The signalling that Oakland and Berkeley are the wokest places on the planet is of primary importance in local politics (Berkeley High is debating no longer doing its annual performance of The Vagina Monologues because it others women who lack vaginas, but they’ll probably just modify it to include trans people and POCs).

      But there’s also a local-politics element in the geographical imbalance of the obviously-gerrymandered Alameda and Contra Costa Counties.

      Fremont, where Tesla’s factory is (the old Toyota factory), is the opposite side of the county from Oakland (almost in Santa Clara County), and skews way more conservative. The county is absolutely dominated, however, by the people of the Oakland-Berkeley hills who look down on the more industrial areas of south county (Hayward, Union City, Fremont) and the more agricultural/suburban areas of east county (Livermore, Pleasanton), which also skew more conservative.

      Part of what Musk is doing locally is playing Alameda County off against San Joaquin County (next county inland from Alameda), which actually leans conservative and is letting Musk run his factories 24/7.

      It’s going to be interesting to watch.

  37. I’ve been having fun with this whole mask thing. I go grocery shopping with a black bandanna over my face, black shades, a black baseball cap, and a black hoody. I’ve considered strapping on a six-shooter (in a black leather holster of course) being that I live in an open carry state, but that would likely cause more hassle than I feel like dealing with.

    1. You could consider attaching a sign to the holster to the effect “The safety of our customers is our top priority.”

      1. Round here the cops respond to complaints about open-carry, even though it is perfectly legal. The hassle isn’t worth the fun.

        1. I think you should give it a try. And when the cops show up, just pull out your gun so you can show them there’s no bullet in the chamber.

          1. Try [ALT] + F4 for some cool cheats.

          2. Remind me of the last time you added something to a conversation other than a childish insult.

            1. Says the guy who had to be browbeaten into dropping the 24/7 teenage girl bitch mode.

              1. All he does is cry like a bitch.

    2. pantyhose mask and a crowbar…to enforce social distancing

    3. We should all don Halloween-style masks of our favorite fascist Governor who is forcing this upon us.

    4. “That would likely cause more hassle than I feel like dealing with.”

      With all that black, the gun strapped on might actually make people less anxious. Wearing all that black might make ’em afraid you’re anti-fa. With the gun, you’re probably not. They might rather shop with someone who’s strapped than someone who’s anti-fa level crazy.

  38. I’m a little confused here. Maybe a Trumpster could clarify.

    If you wear a mask then you’re a virtue-signalling Hillary voter, yet the White House is recommending that people cover their faces. So if you follow advice from the White House then you voted for Hillary? That doesn’t make much sense.

    1. Neither do you. Seek help for your TDS and fuck off.

      1. I’m serious. One the one hand people are wearing masks to off their liberal credentials, but on the other hand White House health experts are telling people to cover up. So which is it?

        I figured a wise Trumpster like yourself could resolve the contradiction instead of calling names like a child.

        Haaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaa! Who am I kidding?

        1. Nobody takes you serious or gives a shit about you.

          1. So you can’t explain the contradiction either. Color me unsurprised.

            Oh, and your mom gives a shit about me. All night long.

            1. His mom is a night nurse at a psych hospital?

              1. And she’s got a scat kink.

              2. If Sarcasmic is into her, she must be a 280 lb heavily bearded man in a diaper.

            2. Nobody takes you serious or gives a shit about you.

        2. I wear a mask to the grocery store and the liquor store because those are the only two places I’m allowed to go and they won’t let me in without the mask. So I’m signaling that I want to buy food and alcohol.

        3. sarcasmic
          May.12.2020 at 10:59 am
          “I’m serious…”
          I don’t doubt that you are; that simply explains why you are considered a worthless POS.
          Try treatment for your TDS and perhaps your view of reality, facts and logic will return.
          Until then, you are nothing other than a Trump-focused, dimbulb TDS victim.
          Grow up.

  39. https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1259995568929202180

    Only the government could cause 1 million unemployed health care workers during a pandemic.

    Hospitals Lose Money During Pandemic; Healthcare Workers Face Layoffs, Cut Hours : NPR

    1. Vote for the democrats, and get this level of health care competence forever.

      (this political reaction to a virus is actually a free 45 day trial of US socialism)

  40. U.S. Officials Have Declassified List Of Obama Officials Who Were Involved In ‘Unmasking’ General Flynn
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-u-s-officials-have-declassified-list-of-obama-officials-who-were-involved-in-unmasking-general-flynn

  41. Thread:

    https://twitter.com/wretchardthecat/status/1259993339929059328

    Beijing’s political style of fighting was optimized for the Davos-dominated, media indoctrinated world. They invested in all the respectable places. Hollywood, universities, media outlets. Trump is waging asymmetrical warfare against this infrastructure with considerable effect.

  42. https://twitter.com/wretchardthecat/status/1259878869181464582

    This never made the news till after Obama’s term was over. Then the NYT reported it.

    Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations
    At least 18 C.I.A. sources were killed or imprisoned in China between 2010 and 2012, one of the worst intelligence breaches in decades.

  43. ” Bullying people into obedience isn’t sustainable.”

    How about propaganda and incessant fear-mongering?

    1. Now you’re on to something!

  44. My friends last week: “Why are red states opening back up! We can’t open up until the case count goes to zero! Stay inside! Stay inside!”

    My friends this week, same friends: “Oh good my blue state is starting to open up.”

    1. Sounds like you need some new friends.

      1. Only two colors. Doesn’t sound diverse.

    2. https://twitter.com/SteveKrak/status/1260222176583704576

      NY, NJ, CT, MA and DC have been under strict lockdown “stay at home” orders for weeks. Combined, they account for just 12% of the U.S. population.

      Yesterday they accounted for 44% of NEW coronavirus deaths in America. But tell me again about those dumb Southern red states?

      1. Don’t forget MD.

  45. “While it’s important for public officials to listen to health experts and reopen slowly”

    Is it? It becomes very dangerous when these “experts” we’re basing public policy upon start wandering outside their very narrow scope of expertise. The health experts can tell us about the virus and what individuals can do to minimize the spread, but their expertise ends there. Anything beyond that, public policy recommendations etc., is nothing more than their personal opinion, which should carry no more weight than anyone else’s.

    1. ^^ THIS.

  46. Not The Bee:

    H.R. 6666: COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr6666

    1. Constitutionally speaking, they’re certainly reaching and testing for something bigger.

  47. Here’s the news that should really be driving the political coverage right now:

    As of January 29, President Trump’s approval rating stood at 49%.

    The state lock downs due to COVID-19 and their impact on the economy began around March 20.

    Between March 20 and the end of April, about 30 million Americans filed for unemployment benefits.

    As of April 28, President Trump’s approval rating stood at 49%.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx

    Over time, that may change, but it usually doesn’t take people very long to blame the president for anything bad that happens. George H. W. Bush didn’t lose in 1992 because he’d done anything dreadful. The economy went south on him for reasons beyond his control, but people blame the emperor when bad things happen–it’s been that way since the Sumerians.

    President Trump’s job approval may change, and I’ll adjust my hypothesis to fit new data as it comes in, but my preliminary read is that Americans are associating lock downs with Democrats and reopening the economy with President Trump–and that’s why they don’t blame President Trump for the economy being bad.

    If you look at the polling data, Trump’s approval ratings actually took a hit, initially, but they seem to have recovered in-line with the Democrats going full retard on the lock-downs. I’m not even sure it’s President Trump that’s driving the bus on this. The Democrats by way of Cuomo, Newsom, and Whitmer became early and earnest advocates for lock-downs, and the news media heaping praise on them for it may have created an association in the public’s minds between locking-down the economy and support for Democrats.

    If the Democrats don’t change that perception, they may be in a lot of trouble come November, when the virus itself won’t be much of an issue anymore–and righting the economy will be the only issue that really matters. Who thinks swing voters (unemployed or otherwise) will break for Democrats who cheered for locking the economy down over the virus–when the virus doesn’t matter anymore? He laughs best laughs last, and the economic impact of this will far outlast the virus itself.

    1. With the media against him, many voters will end up believing Sen. Patti Murray that Trump royally screwed up the response and killed the economy. Forgetting of course that Murray’s state of Washington actually led off the royal screwing by being unprepared.

    2. Ken, I accidentally fat fingered the flag. Sorry!

      1. I don’t think anybody at Reason actually checks the abuse queue anyway.

  48. There’s a 5,000 word article coming from Reason on this whole Flynn, Russia, Obama, FBI thing, right?

    You guys after just waiting for all the info to come out, right? No sense in giving us dribs and drabs like with the whole Russian collusion thing.

    1. Broke: Flynn plead guilty
      Woke: The government coerces guilty pleas all the time, nothing new here. You clearly only care because Flynn is white, you racist.

    2. I think they’ve written about it from the perspective of we should be outraged that the FBI does this type of shit to everyone. But many on this website coughWelchcough believed in this conspiracy hook line and sinker the whole time.

      1. Agreed. They frequently argue the big picture using specific examples–frequently going in-depth to show us the wrongs and abuses of government.

        I’d suggest to Reason that this is a great, timely, and visible example.

        1. Might be too much of a local story to merit much coverage here.

    3. Why? Would you actually read it?

  49. Still waiting for an explanation of requiring both masks and six foot anti-social distancing.
    The six foot random number was supposedly because a ‘regular’ (not N95) mask was useless in preventing C19.
    Now that those same masks are magically effective, we still have to stay six feet apart. WHY??!
    A non-N95 mask collects your warm, moist exhalations, and keeps them right in front of your mouth and nose. Now back when facts were facts and not science denial, a warm, moist environment was the ideal breeding place for all germs and bacteria, and a few viruses.
    Other than the political winds, what changed?
    I believe in personal freedoms, and individual decisions.
    But if we are going to allow the fascists a bit of control, we at least need to demand an explanation of why both.

    1. FYTW.

    2. They’re carrying out this farce in the face of their initial overreactions so as to be able to continue to claim that it was both the correct thing to do and claim credit for whatever happens in the end not being worse.

      1. They have people so panicked. Worse than that, being a Karen convinced that the country should stay closed forever has become a way of showing your membership in team “orange man bad”. And once politics and particularly the dislike of Trump gets involved, there is no reasoning with people.

        1. I think it’s less about Trump than it is about their own (meaning the governor’s) elections. They are ultimately all motivated by staying in power by whatever means necessary.

          I’m not aware of much of it yet, but I think they are gearing up for opposition in November to their COVID response. You can bet the Republican candidates will make this an issue in November. The Dem governors up for election need to keep the people scared so that they can claim that they acted appropriately 6 months from now.

          1. In Pennsylvania, Governor Wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing is term-limited and the election isn’t until 2022 anyway.

        2. And as to the “Karen” phenomenon, they’ve been appealing to compliance with stay at home orders as some form of patriotism. Which is disgusting to me, since traditionally patriotism in the US has meant doing whatever is necessary to protect liberty.

          Everyone wants to do something that they can claim is bigger than them. For the Karens out there, staying home and watching Netflix all day while playfully posting on social media about the “sacrifice” of not getting a haircut is a sacrifice they’re willing to make. I’m guessing there aren’t a lot of blue collar Karens who are actually feeling the impact of an economic shutdown.

  50. While it’s important for public officials to listen to health experts”

    why listen to people who have been wrong this entire time. they can’t even make up their mind about mask and its a fact you don’t need mask outdoors or in your own home or in your own car. i saw a meme the other day that said
    “wearing a mask while in your car is like wearing a condom while alone in bed”

    1. I’m not disagreeing that the experts are making it up as they go, but our knowledge of this has changed. To protect you, the mask still doesn’t help, but since the bug can apparently be spread unknowingly, the mask keeps you from passing it along.

      Don’t confuse science (a search for ever-better understanding) with policy (often based on out-of-date science).

      1. .. the mask keeps you from passing it along.
        Total bullshit.

        1. Not only is it total bullshit, but the hilarious Catch-22 the lefties have put themselves in is that they’re still claiming hardly anyone has contracted the virus.

          Well, the last time I checked, you can’t pass along something that you don’t actually have. Right? I mean, duuuuuuh, even someone who never went to college can probably understand that concept.

          1. There’s a differences between being infected and showing symptoms. Just like mono (if you can think back that far), if you get it as a kid, it passes with almost no symptoms, but you definitely had it. Get it as an adult and you are in for one miserable time.

          2. And please don’t call me a lefty. Or even a moderate.

            Libertarian, free marketer, open borders, yes, but socialism will be the death of this country if we don’t put an end to social security, medicare, etc. very soon.

        2. I’m not understanding the mask thing either. How come the virus can get through the mask to infect you, but it can’t get through the mask to be spread? Is there a “one way” sign on the mask that the virus obeys?

      2. Kindly shut the fuck up thanks.

      3. Sorry folks, but when spit leaves your mouth, it’s as rather large droplets that can get stuck on things like the fibers of your mask. That’s what you are protecting others from.

        OTOH, particularly without a mask covering your mouth, a small number of the droplets will dry enough to remain airborne long enough to dessicate and then stay almost permanently airborne – that’s what the N95 mask protects against. Most likely for most of us non-medical people, the number of single floating virus particles that we’re around are so low that the odds of infection are minimal – so we don’t need those fancy masks.

        Is that any better?

  51. Take a look at the CV19 case map, then the electoral college map. As a simple political matter, keeping the high CV19 areas locked down isn’t going to hurt Trump, because he wasn’t going to get any votes from NY, NJ, MA etc. to begin with.

    1. But we have a national economy. So the media/DNC’s job is to convince the now unemployed auto worker in Michigan that his vote last election for Trump was foolish and led to his unemployment this year. In the swing states, it only will take a few voters to change their minds and we have President Biden/VP Klobuchar for 4 years.

      1. So that’s where Trump needs to focus his efforts. But he can write off NY and California right now.

        1. But the Popular Vote!

  52. Los Angeles will reopen beaches on Wednesday, but only for physical activity.

    They are hastily moving the signs “No Thinking Beyond This Point” from the polling places to the beach.

    1. Literal thought crime.

  53. >>Los Angeles will reopen beaches on Wednesday, but only for physical activity.

    meditation is crime.

  54. “but vetting the factual accuracy of every claim that appears on the platform is probably logistically quite hard.”

    No its not its Twitter, all the claims are disputed

  55. Could Reason please stop with the incessant headlines on the articles on the documents and findings of #Obamagate!!1! Sheesh, there are other more important things going on.

  56. It’s not clear exactly who will be making the determination about whether a tweet is false or misleading: the company says that it will rely on “trusted partners.”
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    The Ministry of Truth, obviously.

  57. we have a national economy. So the media/DNC’s job is to convince the now unemployed auto worker in Michigan that his vote the last election for Trump was foolish and led to his unemployment this year. In the swing states, it only will take a few best seo service in jaipur voters to change their minds and we have President Biden/VP Klobuchar for 4 years.

    1. No, if elected, Biden won’t be President in six months. His VP will be President.

  58. FYI, CNN’s Kaitlan Collins was not ignored by the President. She was called on after the Asian Bitch was slapped down and instead of asking her question she differed to the Asian Bitch to continue her combative Pseudo questions. Trump told her that. When she refused to acknowledge that and kept talking, he ended the conference.

    Perhaps her colleagues could ask her to either stay out, shut up, or actually ask her question when called on next time.

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