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Klobuchar's Tough-on-Crime Past Finally Comes Back to Bite Her

Plus: South Carolina primary tallies, coronavirus claims two lives in Washington state, and more...


Klobuchar's prosecutorial past comes back to bite her (finally). But first: It's Biden vs. Bernie again ahead of tomorrow's Super Tuesday primaries. Former Vice President Biden took nearly half (48 percent) of the Democratic presidential primary votes in South Carolina, with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) earning 20 percent and former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg getting just 8 percent.

Buttigieg dropped out of the race on Sunday. Businessman Tom Steyer also ended his campaign over the weekend, after getting just 11 percent of the South Carolina vote.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) placed fifth in South Carolina, with just 7 percent of the vote, trailed by Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.) with 3 percent and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D–Hawaii) with 1 percent. Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg wasn't on the ballot.

Both Bloomberg and Klobuchar faced protests over the weekend, forcing Klobuchar to cancel her Sunday night campaign rally at a high school in Minnesota's St. Louis Park.

Black Lives Matter protesters were there to call out Klobuchar for the incarceration of Myon Burrell, who as a 16-year-old was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison. Burrell maintains his innocence, and evidence suggests he may have been wrongfully convicted in the death of 11-year-old Tyesha Edwards, who was killed by a stray bullet in 2002.

"Sen. Klobuchar was the county attorney during Burrell's first trial," notes WCCO. And while campaigning for president, Klobuchar has repeatedly cited the story of how she helped put Burrell away.

The Klobuchar campaign released a statement saying that "the campaign offered a meeting with the Senator" if the protesters would leave. "After the group initially agreed, they backed out of the agreement and we are cancelling the event."

In Alabama, protesters took a much different tack, silently standing and turning their backs toward Bloomberg as he spoke at a Selma church.

The Montgomery Advertiser reports:

Bloomberg was invited to speak during Selma's Jubilee, an annual event marking "Bloody Sunday" when hundreds of protesters were beaten and battered while marching across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in 1965.

Ryan Haygood, who turned his back on Bloomberg, told the paper:

I was sitting there really wrestling with the fact that 55 years ago 600 or more people assembled at this church and they prayed and prepared to be brutalized by Alabama state troopers about a half a mile up the bridge. Then comes Michael Bloomberg who when he was the mayor of New York City presided over those very kinds of police brutality practices and policies. So in my mind, I thought, though I was surprised to see him come through the doors, I thought he would use this space to atone for that….

And not only did he not do that, it was clear to me that he wasn't even going to address the issue at all. And so I wrestled with it. So I felt like I had to do something to acknowledge that that's not OK especially in this sacred space. This is a space that changed the world.

According to the Advertiser, around a dozen people "stood for about 30 seconds before Bloomberg realized what was happening. He paused, then stumbled over his words before picking back up with his speech"

Voters in 14 states and American Samoa will go to the polls tomorrow, with 1,357 delegates up for grabs. (To win the nomination, you need 1,991 delegates.) The states holding primaries will be Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, and Virginia.


  • The Trump administration is expanding a coronavirus-related travel ban "to include any foreign national who has visited Iran within the last 14 days," Vice President Mike Pence said on Sunday. "The US is also increasing the travel advisory for Italy and South Korea to Level 4—the highest level—advising Americans not to travel to specific regions in those countries hit hardest by the virus," reports CNN.
  • Two people in Washington state have died from the coronavirus. Ten cases have been confirmed there, all around the Seattle area in King County.
  • Yes, "2016 was the worst election ever," writes Jonathan V. Last at The Bulwark. But what if "every subsequent election is worse?"

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  1. Klobuchar’s prosecutorial past comes back to bite her (finally).

    Common sense cutlery control.

    1. Amy fans use combs to eat while in the Boundary Waters to reduce gear in their packs on portages.

    2. I got more shit on Klobacher if anyone wants it:
      There were two police shootings in Henipen county when she was DA when cops shot unarmed minority youths with no provacation that were never charged. Any other human being, other than a police officer would have been charged for at least manslaughter.

      She needs to be called to account for her decision not to change the officers the way Mohammed Noor was charged for killing a white woman by her successor.

      There shouldn’t be a policy that the first black or brown youth is free.

    3. If prosecuting murder cases is being “tough on crime”, what is being lenient?

      The description of the evidence that the person convicted does not really describe how the confession from the friend refutes what evidence was used to convict. Maybe the conviction was wrong but what is described does not suggest it is irrefutable. Nor does it change the fact that a black girl was murdered and Law Enforcement attempted to get justice for that.

  2. …and former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg getting just 8 percent.

    “Just the tip.”

    (Give me a break. This is probably my last chance to make an inappropriate joke.)

    1. Good joke.

    1. Minor detail; Biden is not a moderate, he is a democrat in favor of the federal government running every detail of your life.

      1. Oh I know. Biden is as Socialist as the rest of the Democrat candidates. He just cannot remember to discuss how Socialist he is.

        Biden is getting the Obama consolation prize vote.

  3. The Trump administration is expanding a coronavirus-related travel ban “to include any foreign national who has visited Iran within the last 14 days…”


    1. A clinic in the city of Bandar Abbas in southern Iran was torched on Friday due to suspicions that coronavirus patients from another city were quarantined in it, Al Arabiya reported Saturday.

      Rumors claimed that 10 infected people were transported from Qom, a religious city that has been the epicenter of the virus outbreak in Iran, to the Towhid Clinic, according to Iranian social media posts.

      The Iranian Fars news agency dismissed the claims of infected patients from Qom were being treated in the clinic as “unfounded rumors,” saying that the rumors “angered” some residents, who torched the clinic. The clinic does have a special ward for coronavirus, but the director of public relations at the University of Hormozgan Medical Sciences, Fatima Norouzian, told Fars that rumors about patients being in the clinic are “just a lie,” according to Al Arabiya.

      1. It’s a good thing the Iranian has such a good relationship with the citizenry, otherwise no one would believe their reporting that there were no coronavirus patients.

      2. And now, if there were any coronavirus patients there, they (and their doctors) are now distributed to unprotected burn wards around the area.
        Ah, the wisdom of crowds.

        1. If a mob burns down your building, odds are strong you don’t make it out to the burn ward.

    1. Since trump created the coronavirus, does this mean he should have called Nancy about the advisors death? Is WW4 imminent?!?

    2. Iran’s getting a regime change courtesy of Chinese bioweapons would be hilarious.

      1. +1000

  4. The new coronavirus Covid-19 will end up being the final curtain on China’s nearly 30 year role as the world’s leading manufacturer.

    “Using China as a hub…that model died this week, I think,” says Vladimir Signorelli, head of Bretton Woods Research, a macro investment research firm.

    China’s economy is getting hit much harder by the coronavirus outbreak than markets currently recognize. Wall Street appeared to be the last to realize this last week. The S&P 500 fell over 8%, the worst performing market of all the big coronavirus infected nations. Even Italy, which has over a thousan

    Enter the mysterious coronavirus, believed to have come from a species of bat in Wuhan, and anyone who wanted to wait out Trump is now forced to reconsider their decade long dependence on China.

    Retail pharmacies in parts of Europe reported that couldn’t get surgical masks because they’re all made in China. Can’t Albania make these things for you? Seems their labor costs are even lower than China’s, and they are closer.

    The coronavirus is China’s swan song. There is no way it can be the low-cost, world manufacturer anymore. Those days are coming to an end. If Trump wins re-election, it will only speed up this process as companies will fear what happens if the phase two trade deal fails.d cases now, did better last week than the U.S.

    1. Paging the NT Times 1919 Project:

      The Chinese government has facilitated the mass transfer of Uyghur and other ethnic minority1 citizens from the far west region of Xinjiang to factories across the country. Under conditions that strongly suggest forced labour, Uyghurs are working in factories that are in the supply chains of at least 83 well-known global brands in the technology, clothing and automotive sectors, including Apple, BMW, Gap, Huawei, Nike, Samsung, Sony and Volkswagen.

      This report estimates that more than 80,000 Uyghurs were transferred out of Xinjiang to work in factories across China between 2017 and 2019, and some of them were sent directly from detention camps.2 The estimated figure is conservative and the actual figure is likely to be far higher. In factories far away from home, they typically live in segregated dormitories,3 undergo organised Mandarin and ideological training outside working hours,4 are subject to constant surveillance, and are forbidden from participating in religious observances.5 Numerous sources, including government documents, show that transferred workers are assigned minders and have limited freedom of movement.6

      1. Paging Colin Kapernik:

        This report examines three case studies in which Uyghur workers appear to be employed under forced labour conditions by factories in China that supply major global brands. In the first case study, a factory in eastern China that manufactures shoes for US company Nike is equipped with watchtowers, barbed-wire fences and police guard boxes.

      2. In all, ASPI’s research has identified 83 foreign and Chinese companies directly or indirectly benefiting from the use of Uyghur workers outside Xinjiang through potentially abusive labour transfer programs as recently as 2019: Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Electric, General Motors, Google, H&M, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisense, Hitachi, HP, HTC, Huawei, iFlyTek, Jack & Jones, Jaguar, Japan Display Inc., L.L.Bean, Lacoste, Land Rover, Lenovo, LG, Li-Ning, Mayor, Meizu, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Mitsumi, Nike, Nintendo, Nokia, The North Face, Oculus, Oppo, Panasonic, Polo Ralph Lauren, Puma, Roewe, SAIC Motor, Samsung, SGMW, Sharp, Siemens, Skechers, Sony, TDK, Tommy Hilfiger, Toshiba, Tsinghua Tongfang, Uniqlo, Victoria’s Secret, Vivo, Volkswagen, Xiaomi, Zara, Zegna, ZTE. Some brands are linked with multiple factories.

        1. shit, if this ever hits the MSM those companies are fucking sunk. It won’t of course, because no one wants to be that guy, but if Nike or Microsoft are found to be using Holocaust slave labor, there’s gonna be a lot of pointed questions aimed at their leaders as to how much they know

        2. +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    2. Trump was right.

      1. +10000

    3. And here is the portion Welch and other freshman year economists will ignore..

      China ordered trade ships to return to china (medical goods) even though the goods had already been purchased by foreign companies. This is the problem of ignoring the risk posture of a supply chain heavily dependent on a foreign actor who doesnt believe in a free market.

      1. STFU, Welch explained.

  5. The US is also increasing the travel advisory for Italy…

    The pope coughed.

    1. Did he turn his head first?

  6. Two people in Washington state have died from the coronavirus.


    1. Travel ban Seattle and Portland to prevent the spread of communism!

      1. +100000

        1. He’d have to go to Congress though. As you’re keen in pointing out, Congress has the power to control the migration of “free” people through A1S9C1.

          1. Wamp wamp.

            1. At least leo finally admitted that my citation of Article I, Section 9, Clause is correct.

              It’s a big step for him to admit stuff that scares him.

              1. Apparently you don’t understand sarcasm.

                Or do you actually think that Congress can regulate the movement (migration) of free people?

                1. Pretty sure it looks like you missed the sarcasm.

                  1. No, LC actually believes what I wrote, sort of. He actually thinks that Congress can regulate migration because of a slave trade clause in the Constitution, but even he won’t admit that if that’s the interpretation it means they could theoretically regulate citizens migration.

                    So he won’t answer the question, because it exposes that he is either a statist who believes Congress has the power to regulate migration or a believer in a living Constitution because he has to go back to an overly broad interpretation of the Naturalization clause to apply to his beloved controls on immigration (you know, SCOTUS precedent).

                    1. You’re a complete fucking moron of you think Congress wasn’t given the power by the constitution to regulate entry into the country.
                      The government is instituted to repel “invasion” but can’t do anything about “migration”.

                    2. You’re just not noticing all that stuff whizzing over your head, are you?

                      It’s wild–everyone else can see it, but you just keep blathering, oblivious.

                    3. But you’re not even relying on a the clause that LC likes to go on and on about. It’s fine if you want to use some other clause to defend your position. But that’s not what LC is doing and he deserves to hear about it every time he, incorrectly, brings it up.

                    4. Leo does not have a citation to support his position, whatever that is.

                      For the rest of us, we have Congress to regulate immigrants as of 1808.

                      Thanks Founders for enumerating that power in Article I, Section 9, Clause 1.

  7. Cuccinelli unlawfully appointed to head Citizenship and Immigration Services, judge rules

    A federal judge ruled Sunday that one of the Trump administration’s top immigration officials, Ken Cuccinelli, was unlawfully appointed to his post because of a decades-old law on federal vacancies.

    U.S. District Judge Randolph Moss ruled that Cuccinelli’s appointment as the acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) circumvented a law that said a senior government position could be filled only if the Senate first approved the individual.

    Since Cuccinelli was not legally eligible to serve as acting USCIS director, according to the judge, some of his decisions — including one that limited the access some asylum-seekers had to obtain legal counsel — could be voided.

    How are these judge not impeached on the spot? This judge cannot find a lack of authority for this rule to limit immigration except to say the bureaucrat issuing it should not have been in that job.

    1. You mean there are consequences for ignoring laws? Oh My God!

      1. No consequences for Obama, Hillary, Bill Clinton, LBJ, JFK, FDR….

        1. I know, I know. The world is so unfair to Trump.

          1. Has nothing to do with Trump.

            It will have something to do with Trump as he is reelected.

  8. “Yes, ‘2016 was the worst election ever,’ writes Jonathan V. Last at The Bulwark.”

    Of course. It was the first time in American history that a hostile foreign power hacked our election and installed one of its intelligence assets as President.


    1. PS — The Bulwark is a great site. I’m glad to see principled conservatives like Bill Kristol still have a home on the Internet.


  9. Wuhan closes makeshift hospital as new coronavirus cases in China drop sharply

    Hmm…. if the Commies had only told the truth from the beginning.

  10. North Korea launches unknown projectile, Seoul says

    unreason’s hope and dreams with Buttgeig?

  11. Nothing about Afghanistan?

    1. Oh shit now you did it Zeb and or $parcasmic are gonna cry at you for questioning Reason’s editorial choices…

      1. True libertarians only care about what Reason tells them to care about.

      2. I’m hoping there’s an article on it today. Maybe it’s too big for the Roundup, who knows.

        1. Oh shit, twice, you are in for it…

    2. thanks for raising it, I didn’t know an agreement had been made. It’s almost as if a corrupt media has an agenda or something *turns and stares at Reason*

      1. unreason wishes they were corrupt media.

        unreason would settle for media outlet.

      2. Reason absolutely needs to get something out on this. Any deserved criticism of Trump is more credible when you also give him deserved credit for the good.

        1. OMFG three times? $parcasmic is in this thread RIGHT NOW he’s gonna see this and start bitching at you any second man.

          1. Leo is an official trumpista now per sarcasmic.

            1. Wait til he finds out Leo is also me…

        2. When was the last time Reason had a full article on some of his deregulatory aspects? They’ve missed some very good deregulatory rule changes. The closest they came was last week’s “good, but not far enough!!!” article from what I can remember.

          1. +1000

    3. Too local.

  12. Crickets from green groups as Trump makes U.S. ‘global leader in emissions reductions.’ “Under President Trump, the United States led the world in reducing carbon-dioxide emissions in 2019, but don’t expect Greta Thunberg to give him a hug any time soon. International Energy Agency data released earlier this month showing that U.S. emissions dropped by 2.9% last tear failed to make an impression with Democrats, environmentalists and climate activists, who either shrugged off the data or argued that Mr. Trump’s climate-denialism was somehow thwarted.”

    1. Shit, then they’d have to recognize natural gas’ impact on dramatically improving the air quality and reducing air pollution. Environmentalists used to cheer natural gas, but now its a problem because it’s not as “clean” as the windmills (aka: California Condor cuisinarts).

  13. Pride and fear among Jews as Sanders and Bloomberg battle for historic nomination

    I mean, you hitch your wagon to two different Jewish tyrants, there might be some blow back.

    You know which other tyrant Jews hitched their wagons to, for it to only back fire?

  14. Economic disaster!!!

    Charles Koch current net worth: $55.2 billion’s benefactor had been stagnating in the $58,000,000,000 to $62,000,000,000 range because of Drumpf’s high-tariff / low-immigration policies. Now Mr. Koch is rapidly losing wealth because of the global viral plague that Drumpf personally caused.


  15. Yes, “2016 was the worst election ever,” writes Jonathan V. Last at The Bulwark. But what if “every subsequent election is worse?”

    The argument could and should be made that there are always terrible choices in candidates, but the 2016 options were nice enough to be transparent about it. It remains to be seen if subsequent candidates are similarly candid about their awfulness.

  16. Stocks rise as market attempts to rebound from massive losses last week

    Poor Boehm.

    I put in a pre-open market order to buy a bunch of stock at cheaper prices. Thanks!

    1. LOL

      Keep trying to spin this abysmal economy.


      1. I mean LC just admitted to having two jobs like AOC said. His regular job and a 2nd job as a trader.

        1. *scribbles thank you letter to AOC

          1. Use crayon so she’s able to read it.

            1. I will splash some cheap vodka on it, so she will be reminded of her bartending days.

    2. Sure you did.

      1. I bought and added all kinds of shit near the low on Friday. Struck gold on 700 shares of NCNA (pure luck).

        1. nice catch on the ncna.

  17. I saw where Jack Welch died and in looking up the story, I saw where “Trader Joe” Coulombe died the other day, too. Bernie Sanders must be so happy. Evil rich bastards giving people what they want when people should be instead forced to take what they need whether they want it or not.

    1. And wait in line for it.

    2. Bernie is still upset though that the government didn’t get 100% of the dead guys’ stuff.

      1. Bernie has not received his shipment of Commie pens and an iPhone from China yet.

  18. “A few years ago there was a revolution against the intelligentsia,” Bloomberg told CBS’ Scott Pelley. “People said, ‘you know, those people, particularly on the coasts, are trying to tell us what to do.’ They wanted a change. That explains Donald Trump. Now, people seem to have changed. This cycle, people want stability.”


    2. Now, people seem to have changed.

      He’s using the royal “people” here, presumably.

  19. Liberals freak out over twitter possibly changing ToS and becoming fair or even pro trump after GOP investor buys large stake in twitter.

    1. My favorite head smacker from the link: This is a step to “state run” media.

    2. i mean, they’d have to fire half of Twitter’s employees and replace them with decent people before I see any anti-republican/moderate bias going away.

    3. Singer is the founder of Elliott Management and is a Trump supporter now, although he didn’t start out as one, originally he was not in favor of President Donald Trump.

      Singer is reportedly unhappy with Dorsey’s leadership, including his split attention because he’s also in charge of Square, an payment company and that Dorsey wants to live part of the year in Africa.

      Talk about a pair of mangled sentences! The editing on that site is worse than on Reason!

  20. Maybe you heard over the weekend how trump claimed the Coronavirus a hoax? Apparently that was a hoax. Even FB had to fact check the claim.

    1. Why yes, I did hear it. Several times right here in these comments section! All by lefty trolls though, so I assumed it wasn’t true at the time.

  21. Churchgoers turn their backs on Bloomberg in protest during his remarks at service in Selma

    HAHAH. The Democrat Party cannot even buy Black American votes anymore.

    1. How does realclearscience relate to settled science?

      1. It is clearer, and uses actual science.

  22. The Trump administration came to an agreement with the Taliban. If all goes according to plan, the U.S. will withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan in 14 months.

    Even if there is still some uncertainty in this agreement, it’s vastly superior to policy under Bush and Obama, where withdrawing from Afghanistan was contingent on the Taliban coming to terms with the U.S. backed government of Afghanistan.

    As things stand now, if we’re leaving in 14 months, that means the pressure isn’t only on the Taliban to come to terms with the government of Afghanistan. The pressure is also on the government of Afghanistan to come to terms with the Taliban.

    P.S. Of course, we should leave in 14 months regardless of whether the Taliban lives up to their end of the bargain–because leaving is in the best interests of the United States.

    1. P. P. S Ken is a known liar and idiot.

      1. Ken correctly called Trump’s 2016 election win.

        1. Which doesn’t refute what I said in any way.

          Ken is a known liar and idiot.

          1. Context?

            1. something something economic figures a month ago.

              1. Is there a wiki I can use to stay up to date on the feuds and sock accounts?

                1. that was the extent of my caring I don’t even know who was correct. wiki would be funny though.

                  1. You don’t need a wiki – just know that any name you haven’t seen before is Tulpa. Ever seen MikeT1986 before? It’s Tulpa. Some of these shitpost threads get pretty surreal when you see four or five different poo-flinging monkeys flinging poo at each other and you realize they’re all the same person. It’s like a performance art piece during Free Paste Day at the retard store.

                    1. i generally applaud effort like that.

                    2. I think I just passed an initiation, I got accused of being Tulpa.

                      Now I need Hinh to write about me in bolds and I’m a real commentator.

                      I just don’t comment often, and haven’t followed the drama down here since like 2017. I was just hoping for a reasonpedia like this:

                    3. MikeT was here in 2019, so hes lying already.

                      I write down all the sock troll suspects because they use the same stupid lines like vince, tony, sarcasmic, leo, buttplug, bignose….

    2. the huge question is what are we going to do with all the equipment we have there. We can’t bring it all back, we’re talking about almost 2 decades of stuff, air mailing it all back would be outrageously expensive, and moving it to a port via land would mean going through Pakistan (all expensive, although slightly less so). I doubt we want to just give it away or leave it as salvage for the Afghanis, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens with all of it.

      This isn’t a new question by any means, and I think it might have been part of the reason Obama stayed in Afghanistan, no one wanted to be the one who bit the bullet and made the call to destroy/leave billions of dollars worth of equipment

      1. Pack up everything we can and convoy it all into Pakistan and then drive to Karachi to ship it out.

        It would be a huge mistake to leave a bunch of stuff for terrorists to get after they overthrow the puppet regime in Kabul.

        I just want the USA out and leaving under peace terms will work.

      2. no one wanted to be the one who bit the bullet and made the call to destroy/leave billions of dollars worth of equipment.

        But think of the speaking gigs that Lockheed and Northrop would give out for that order.

      3. One of the biggest reasons the communists defeated the nationalists in China was because as the Japanese retreated as the Russians chased them out, they left all that military hardware behind that they’d imported since the Japanese invaded Manchuria in 1931. The Russians handed all that captured hardware over to the communists, and so while the nationalists held the cities, they quickly realized their cities were surrounded by communists who were heavily armed with artillery.

        If we arm the Afghan government, I don’t know that we can arm them better than we armed ourselves. If our armaments weren’t enough to make a difference in the outcome, chances are the Afghan government won’t be able to use them to make much of a difference either. I suspect the Afghan government is more or less negotiating the terms of their surrender. Didn’t the same thing happen more or less in Vietnam? The South Vietnamese government didn’t have the support of the Vietnamese people either.

        Sometimes the best thing to do isn’t the best thing for everybody, and sometimes we’re forced to choose from a list of undesirable options. If the war couldn’t end until Afghanistan became like Puerto Rico, then the war would never end. There are questions there that I’ve never seen a neocon adequately answer with much other than the belief that democracy and freedom prevail everywhere, and anyone who believes otherwise is some kind of racist.

        1. Right but youre a known liar and censorious idiot who doesn’t understand internet revenue, and came into this thread two days later to cry

          1. Right but nobody cares. Just like they haven’t cared about it for the last three weeks while you’ve bitched and moaned about it. Move on and stop making your mental illness so apparent.

        2. That is absolutely correct Ken. The Communists were hurting for weapon supplies throughout the Sino-Jap War. Not only did they get captured Japanese weapons but they got new resupply from the USSR. Stalin did not want America having a toe-hold in Asia.

          The Nationalists had the USA supplying them with weapons.

        3. Plus, I am not against the strategy of fighting the new enemies outside territorial USA rather than inside it.

          We can do that by quickly striking at attackers and then withdrawing back to the safety of North America.

          Trump and other are 100% correct, that 19 years of war has severely weakened our military. Many of the hardened veterans with combat experience simply retire or leave rather than train the new recruits how to be good soldiers. Some stick around at least.

        4. If we arm the Afghan government

          they won’t know what to do with it. The US already arms the Afghan “government” and it’s like handing guns to retards.

          1. plus the Taliban will probably take over after we leave anyway (hopefully, cause the alternative would be ISIS’s remnants). So that would just be like leaving it for the Taliban but with extra steps.

    3. leaving is in the best interests of the United States

      Very much so, but I wonder if it had been some non-Trump person to work out the same withdrawal whether Trump supporters would say it was great or they would say it was a terrible deal because the US “gets nothing.” It was in the best interest of the US to stick with the Iran Deal too, but it didn’t, and for withdrawing, the US “gets nothing.”

      1. I appreciate the sentiment. I suspect a lot of Trump supporters back the President because his national interests philosophy comes across as patriotic despite being anti-neocon. To Trump’s credit, I’m not sure there’s a non-neocon alternative in the Republican party at the moment. And I’m not sure there’s a Democrat who would risk negotiating with the Taliban in an election year either. This may be an achievement that was only possible because Trump is in the White House.

  23. Democratic Sen. Doug Jones spent $3,500 on European trip, billed reelection campaign

    This Democrat knows he is voted out come November 2020.

    1. Unless you guys nominate the child molester again.

      1. Fuck off Screech

        1. Be fair, Shreeky is an expert on child molesters, being one himself.

        2. I was only trying to help.

          1. You are an expert on being a loser and a chomo.

          2. “Throw MAGA from the Train”

            Christ first it’s stalking a washed politico, then it’s a 30 year old movie reference, you must be a billion years old.

      2. Biden?

        1. “Donald Trump barged in on Miss Teen USA contestants while they were changing clothes, and engaged in “creepy” dressing room banter with the girls — some as young as 15.”

          1. You got banned for posting child pornography. It’s why you keep hiding behind different screen names and it never works.

              1. No one is gonna click on any of your links, diddler.

                1. Your lost. Again I’m here to help.

                  1. So am I. It’s why I told you that.

      3. Why would they nominate you Buttplug, you’re a fucking commie.

      4. Bill Clinton is running for Alabama Senator?

  24. The head of the W.H.O. team that visited China said this week that China “took one of the most ancient strategies and rolled out one of the most ambitious, agile and aggressive disease-containment efforts in history.”

    The W.H.O.’s epidemic-modeling teams concluded that travel restrictions had slowed the spread of the virus outside China by two to three weeks.

    For the United States, the delay was probably far greater. Air-traffic data shows that flights from China to the United States dropped much more than they did to Europe.

    1. “Air-traffic data shows that flights from China to the United States dropped much more than they did to Europe.”

      Yeah, markets are individual people making choices, and markets don’t need government experts or populists working in the national interest to tell them to avoid non-essential travel to China in the midst of an epidemic.

      Meanwhile, airlines are reducing flights to China as demand for flights to China dry up–and fewer planes leaving for China also means fewer planes coming back to the U.S. from China. It may have been prudent to screen passengers from infected areas, but individuals making choices about the risks and benefits of travel to and from China are also highly effective at coming to the right conclusions.

      There’s this thing called an invisible hand, and the government mostly just gets in the way.

      1. Right but youre a known liar and censorious idiot who doesn’t understand internet revenue, and came into this thread two days later to cry.

      2. +1000

    1. Maybe instead of forming a Space Force, Trump should have formed an Enforcement Force and started asking for volunteers. All these people wringing their hands over “Whither Afghanistan?” could now do something more concrete than just bitching about the troop withdrawals.

    1. Walls are closing in!!

      1. Ukrainians know about walls, they lived on the wrong side of one for decades under the Commies.

        1. Also a perfectly good sword got dented on their walls.

    2. Yeah, I don’t think the question of what kind of action in the House Biden might face if he’s elected president has been fully vetted by registered Democrats.

      I hope it doesn’t become a campaign issue until or unless Biden is nominated because I’d rather see Sanders (and democratic socialism) fail to even win the nomination, and it’s not enough for me that Sanders fails because no one made a big deal about Biden’s activities in Ukraine. It’s far better if Sanders fails specifically because he’s a socialist.

      That being said, if Biden somehow becomes president and the Republicans win the House, they latter bunch are likely to be in a vindictive mood.

      1. Right but you’re a known liar and idiot. And now, a censorious asshole to boot lolol


      2. Biden did an interview with Chris Wallace yesterday.
        After referring to Trump derisively as a “stable genius” several times in one sentence, as a way of deflecting from his own errors and gaffes (like saying he’s running for senate), the interview wrapped up with Biden saying “thanks Chuck”

        1. At this rate, the Democrat ticket really will be “None of the Above”.

          Biden will likely the only candidate left standing and he will then give a concession speech after Trump beat him in a bid for the US Senate.

  25. I’ve been coming to Hit & Run (and whatever they’re calling it now) since about the time Kavanaugh and Gillespie came over from, so I have some perspective . . .

    For the title of “Worst Thread Ever” I nominate the following (from over the weekend):

    Don’t take care of it for us. These two trolls and their cast of a thousand socks are basically vandalizing your website.

    1. “Youre a known liar.”

      That guy owns you now Ken.

      1. Well, he did carry it all weekend then come in here and cry about it…

        1. My point exactly.

          1. Hey, everything else aside, when you’re right you’re right. And you’re right.

            Shorter Ken- “REASON, SAVE ME FROM THE WORDS” lolololo I’m going to get so much mileage out of this lololok

            1. “basically vandalizing your website”

              I will also point out that Ken is stupid and his argument vapid. Reason, as admitted by ENB, is driven by clicks. The MANY posts are worth more to them than his longwinded thread constipating bloviation, so his weak ass self-serving attempt to cast it as “vandalism” is not only wrong, it’s moronic and farcical.

    2. I second that. What a shit show that was. Made me re-think my views against involuntary commitments.

      1. I’m sure going in against your will was an ordeal.

    3. Keep crying liar, it’s just more proof that you know you lied.

      “ban him” instead of just fucking leaving. Super libertarian.

    4. What’s worse, retarded trolls, people who reply to retarded trolls with retarded post expecting something other than retarded, or people who have nothing better to do on a Saturday than post on a “news” website?

      1. “What’s worse”

        “$park¥ is the Worst”

  26. I saw the surj logo on the BLM sign so I thought I’d look them up – you thought self-loathing Jews were a thing, these are self-loathing human beings. If I were this fucked-up in the head, I probably wouldn’t like myself either.

      1. Imagine my shock that they are all white women

        1. How dare you! One of them is a they.

          1. Let me just say wouldn’t. Not a single one.

    1. That’s just groovy.

  27. After getting shellacked by former Vice President Joe Biden in the South Carolina primary, the democratic socialist presidential candidate is said to have boarded the wrong private jet during a campaign stop on Saturday.

    According to TMZ, Sanders suffered “a momentary case of a campaign brain fart” as he accidentally boarded the wrong private jet during a campaign stop between South Carolina and Massachusetts. He is said to have been spotted making his way off of a Gulfstream jet before heading to the “Bay State” for a rally in the Boston Common. The Democratic frontrunner is campaigning in fellow rival Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s home state ahead of Super Tuesday, which polls show he is well-positioned to win.

    Meanwhile, on Wednesday, a Twitter user claimed that Sanders and his campaign staff took not just one but three private jets to travel between Charleston and Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, which is only a two-hour drive according to Google Maps.

    1. yes, but you see, driving is for the peasants. Flying should only be for the ruling class. God, it’s like you didn’t even read AOC’s New Green Deal or something.

    2. He’s entitled to use whatever jet he wants. There will be no such thing as private jets when his revolution takes over.

      1. It’s not that he has 1, or even 3 jets…it’s that the fucker is too senile to remember which private of the myriad jets to board.

  28. “A study published (PDF) this week by the School of Computer Science and Statistics at Trinity College Dublin found that the six major web browsers can be separated into three tiers in regards to out of the box privacy. The study looked at six browsers: Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Apple Safari, Brave Browser, Microsoft Edge, and Yandex Browser. A family of easily reproducible tests were uniformly performed with all six browsers.

    . . . .

    The study split the tested browsers into three categories based on its findings, with Brave in its own category:

    Used “out of the box” with its default settings Brave is by far the most private of the browsers studied. We did not find any use of identifiers allowing tracking of IP address over time, and no sharing of the details of web pages visited with backend servers.

    Brave is based on Chromium, which means you can run all the plug-ins that are compatible with Chrome. Why use another browser?

    1. Right but youre a known liar and censorious idiot who doesn’t understand internet revenue.

    2. Is Brave built by Crypto AG?

      1. Yeah, I don’t think they’re a CIA plot.

        Their crytocurrency is based on Etherium, and they incorporate Tor into the browser.

        Of course, if we can’t confirm that the browser confounds the Black Ops guys at the CIA, that doesn’t mean we should fall for the perfect solution fallacy.

        1. Right but youre a known liar and censorious idiot who doesn’t understand internet revenue, and came into this thread two days later to cry.

          . So what you think isn’t worth much.

    3. “Why use another browser?”

      Because Google has proven itself to be untrustworthy when it comes to helping government violate the Constitution and domestically spy.

      I think the founders of Brave might be on to something but I dont trust Google to not work against Brave because it uses Chromium browser.

      1. Chromium is free and open source. Everybody can see what’s in Chromium because of that. Brave uses Chromium, not Chrome, specifically. Chrome is what Google turns Chromium into after it adds its own proprietary software and branding.

        In other words, Google doesn’t own the software behind Brave, and they can’t add anything to Chromium without everyone knowing. That’s why they have Chrome. I know the branding is a little confusing, but, suffice it to say, because Brave is built on free and open source software, it’s safe from Google’s influence.

        1. I get the difference between Chrome and Chromium.

          I guess what I am saying is that I dont think the Deep State that unconstitutionally domestically spies on Americans will let there be browsers and encryption survive without their intervention.

          As we know from all the bugs in coding that allowed hacks for decades with Microsoft software, Google…. I would urge caution. Firefox is a stand alone company whose survival depends on having a good product and they have that. Google has all sorts of revenue streams, so they dont really care if their open sourced browser has coding holes in it that you can drive a NSA server farm through.

          But, as you say, we should not be beholden to a perfection fallacy.

          1. But Firefox fails in this test compared to Brave and to the best of my knowledge doesn’t implement Tor out of the box like Brave.

  29. The other cool thing about Brave is that you can set it up so that they send you some of the money they get for advertising to you. My understanding is that it gets cut into something like thirds–one third to the site owner, Brave keeps one-third, and they send you one third of the money. Over the past year, they’ve sent me about $50, which may not sound like much, but it’s more than enough to buy a digital subscription to Reason. (Yes, Reason is now a certified Brave creator, and, yes, you can withdraw the funds in U.S. dollars to your bank account)

    I think some of the biggest problems we have with the media (social media especially) are driven by their advertising model. Facebook, YouTube, etc. are essentially advertising platforms, and so their content decisions are mostly driven by the concerns of advertisers–who don’t want their advertising to appear next to your condemnation of affirmative action, gay marriage, illegal aliens, or abortion as if they were endorsing your views.

    In all media models before, the platform was in control of the content. The reason CBS didn’t offend the sensibilities of viewers in 1982 wasn’t because of the FCC. It was because their business model was completely driven by the concerns of advertisers, and advertisers didn’t want to offend the sensibilities of American audiences. Advertisers still come to the broadcast networks telling them what demographic they want to advertise to, and the networks still develop shows with the idea of attracting that demographic. Once the content escaped the control of the advertising platform, like it did with social media, the advertisers freaked. Much of the change in Facebook’s direction in recent years can be pinpointed to various advertisers getting upset about their advertising appearing near user generated content on controversial topics.

    Point being, the more we move back to a subscription model, the more the media starts catering to the tastes of consumers rather than the preferences of advertisers, and Brave can help us do that. When you take money away from advertisers and use it to subscribe or donate to a content creator of your choice, you are doing more to undermine the forces behind Facebook and Google than anything the government should do. AND you’re protecting your privacy better than you are with a lot of other mainstream browsers.

    P.S. I understand the founder of Brave was pushed out of his perch at Mozilla by social justice warriors, who wouldn’t tolerate the fact that he gave money to support Prop 8, which was supposed to ban gay marriage in California.

    1. Right but youre a known liar and censorious idiot who doesn’t understand internet revenue

    2. “Point being, the more we move back to a subscription model, the more the media starts catering to the tastes of consumers rather than the preferences of advertisers”

      The reason HBO was able to show controversial shit for decades when the broadcast networks couldn’t wasn’t because of the FCC. It was because HBO’s business model didn’t include much in the way of advertising and CBS broadcasting’s business model was completely dependent on advertising. He who pays the piper gets to call the tune.

      Taking money away from advertisers and using it to subscribe to content creators moves the social media environment to more of a model like HBO and less of a model like CBS broadcasting. With Brave, you can contribute the money you collect from advertising directly to the YouTube channel, for instance, you want. If your favorite content creator at YouTube gets demonetized because of controversial content, don’t ask the government to go after Google. Use the money you earned browsing with Brave to contribute funds to the content creator whose content was demonetized.

      I received $50+ over the last year. A digital subscription to Reason for a year is $14.97. Yeah, you can make a difference.

      1. Right but youre a known liar and censorious idiot who doesn’t understand internet revenue

  30. Reminder: We are now in day #3 of the Reason blackout of Trump making a deal to end the war in Afghanistan after 18 years.

    1. unreason is just crafting their Propaganda to go all Neocon on this means to pull US troops out.

    2. Even America’s Test Kitchen is covering this up. Sad.

    3. WTFA!

  31. So now people realize that gun control makes mass incarceration worse?

  32. Los Angeles DA’s husband accused of pulling gun on Black Lives Matters protesters

    Jackie Lacey, L.A. County’s first black district attorney, has been the target of regular protests over the office’s handling of high-profile cases.

    Demonstrators knocked on the front door of L.A. County District Attorney Jackie Lacey at 5:40 a.m. PT when a man they identified as her husband, David Lacey, opened and pointed a weapon, according to Melina Abdullah, a professor of Pan-African studies at Cal State Los Angeles, and protest organizer Justin Marks.

    “We heard the gun cocking, and I thought I was being paranoid,” Abdullah told NBC News. “But then he opened the door, leading with the gun. He saw me and lowered it, pointing it at my chest.”

    “We don’t know how crazy he is, we didn’t know if he’d actually shoot me so we did” back up, Abdullah said. “I’m a mother of three kids, and I really don’t want to get to shot.”

    1. LOL – yeah, you’re a hostile crowd showing up unannounced and uninvited at somebody’s door in the early-morning darkness and when he arms himself before answering the door, he’s the crazy one. For somebody who claims she doesn’t want to get shot, she’s doing a pretty good impression of somebody who wants to get shot.

      1. angry mob at 5:40, yeah, you’re not wrong. I personally wouldn’t have opened the door, but I wouldn’t be surprised if these jaggoffs don’t try that stunt again

        1. Come out with a bigger gun.

      2. My favorite was this little bit:

        “I said: ‘Jackie Lacey has promised us a community meeting. We’re having it now. Could you please ask her to come out front?'”

        Not sure that’s how it works, kiddo. Btw, I wonder what her job prospects of “pan-African teacher” are gonna be when the school finds out she’s part of a mob outside of someone’s house at 5:30 in the morning. Even for Cali, I feel like that could affect her career

        1. The only appropriate response to that is “No I won’t ask her to come out front, but if you’re still here in 5 minutes I’ll be asking for someone to send an ambulance.”

          And yes, it will affect her career. She’ll be promoted to head of the Grievance Studies department for he incredible display of valor in the face of bigotry.

          1. It is funny that she had to clean out her underwear after she shit herself. The article politely left that part out.

            Ive lulled a gun on two people. The one guys shit himself as he ran away. The other guy shit himself after getting double tapped.

    1. Roberts: So, not a tax?

      1. awkwaaaaaard

        1. *Cue Twilight Zone theme song.

  33. So.

    “Black Lives Matter” is demanding the release of a criminal who was twice convicted of killing an eleven-year-old black girl.

    I guess not all black lives matter, just those of gangbanging thugs.

    1. *holds up picture of gangbanging thug, years before he became a thug*

      This innocent child is innocent!

  34. Two people in Washington state have died from the coronavirus.

    Sadly, one of them was not Kshama Sawant. This is a truly horrible disease.

  35. Jesus Christ – Klobuchar drops out of the race and within minutes they’re announcing 5 coronavirus deaths in Washington. How many people is she taking with her?

    1. Her entire campaign team I’m guessing. They have failed her for the last time.

      1. Give em the ol’ Hillary special.

  36. “Voters in 14 states and American Samoa will go to the polls tomorrow”

    Large numbers of those voters have already voted in “early voting” and so all these dropouts and the supposed Bernie-to-Biden momentum shift won’t change any of those votes.

  37. So Klobuchar just dropped out. Anyone else ever find it funny that she spent most of her time on stage pashing Pete for being inexperienced, yet he managed to do quite a bit better than she did?

    1. +1000

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