Georgia Can't Compel School Speakers To Promise They Won't Boycott Israel, Argues New Federal Lawsuit
Plus: Sanders tops Biden in new national poll, how federal housing policy is getting families evicted, and more...

Lawsuit seeks to overturn Georgia's Israel boycott law. Civil rights organizations are suing in federal court on behalf of documentary filmmaker Abby Martin, who was uninvited from a scheduled speaking engagement at Georgia Southern University after refusing to sign a pledge that said she would not boycott Israel.
"The organizers were afraid my pro-Palestine activism & film Gaza Fights For Freedom would violate Georgia's anti-BDS law," wrote Martin on Twitter in January. BDS stands for boycott, divestment, and sanctions.
"Modeled after the global South African anti-apartheid movement, the BDS movement's stated goal is to pressure the Israeli government to end its occupation of Palestinian territory," the Georgia Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-Georgia) explains.
"I will not forfeit my constitutional rights by signing this pledge," said Martin at a press conference yesterday.
The anti-BDS law in Georgia, passed in 2016, forbids government-run institutions in the state from contracting with people who can't or won't certify that they're not boycotting companies based in Israel or Israeli-controlled settlements or companies that do business with them. Georgia was the sixth U.S. state to say so, passing the measure not long after Mike Pence, then-governor of Indiana, signed a similar bill into law in his state. As of last year, 27 states had adopted similar laws.
In Georgia, "the law applies only to state contracts worth at least $1,000 and involves no investigation or extensive paperwork," explained the Atlanta Jewish Times back in 2017. "A potential contractor just has to sign a statement saying it does not boycott Israel."
Of course, not everyone finds that to be such a minor thing. Asking Americans to sign some pledge of allegiance to certain goods would be weird enough if we were talking about locally made products. Georgia is asking any contractor hired by a state institution to pledge to help prop up another country's businesses. It would be downright bizarre even if U.S. politicians didn't regularly and publicly perform ritual displays of reverence for Israel.
The new lawsuit against the University System of Georgia, filed Monday, comes from CAIR-Georgia, CAIR Legal Defense Fund, and the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund. Last year, CAIR helped overturn an anti-BDS law in Texas. In that case, the District Court for the Western District of Texas concluded that "the First Amendment does not allow" such a law.
"By canceling a journalist's speaking engagement on a college campus because she refused to pledge support for a foreign government, the State of Georgia has blatantly violated the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of speech," CAIR-Georgia Executive Director Edward Ahmed Mitchell said in a statement yesterday. "Every American has the constitutional right to engage in political boycotts, and the State of Georgia does not have the right to punish any American for doing so."
Earlier this year, a federal court dismissed a challenge to Arizona's anti-BDS law, but only on procedural grounds.
First Amendment lawyers disagree over the constitutionality of these bills, however.
"Decisions not to buy or sell goods or services are generally not protected by the First Amendment," wrote Eugene Volokh, Cornell law professor Michael C. Dorf, and Northwestern University professor Andrew M. Koppelman in a 2019 amicus brief for a case challenging Alabama's anti-BDS law. More:
As a general matter, a decision not to do business with someone, even when it is politically motivated (and even when it is part of a broader political movement), is not protected by the First Amendment. And though people might have the First Amendment right to discriminate (or boycott) in some unusual circumstances—for instance when they refuse to participate in distributing or creating speech they disapprove of—that is a basis for a narrow as-applied challenge, not a facial one. For this reason, Ark. Code Ann. § 25-1-503 is constitutional.
More from The Volokh Conspiracy on the matter here, here, and here, and from Reason's Jacob Sullum here.
ELECTION 2020
Bernie Sanders bests Joe Biden in latest poll:
For the first time, Sanders leads Biden in a national Quinnipiac poll. Previous poll was conducted right before Iowa and released Jan. 28.
Sanders 25% (+4)
Biden 17% (-9)
Bloomberg 15% (+7)
Warren 14% (-1)
Buttigieg 10% (+4)
Klobuchar 4% (-3)— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) February 10, 2020
See also: Where the 2020 Democrats stand on sex work decriminalization. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D–Hawaii) told Reason:
If a consenting adult wants to engage in sex work, that is their right, and it should not be a crime. All people should have autonomy over their bodies and their labor.
Most of the other candidates have been much more equivocal or publicly silent on the issue, including Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) and Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.). But Sanders and Warren are sponsoring a bill to study the effects of FOSTA, which made hosting content that "facilitates prostitution" a federal crime.
"I agree we could use more research," says Bella Robinson, sex worker and executive director of COYOTE Rhode Island. "But why would we trust the government?"
More here.
FREE MINDS
Federal housing policy is getting families evicted. The Washington Post reports on Taja Robinson, who was kicked out of her Silver Spring, Maryland, apartment for smoking cigarettes in the parking lot. The subsidized housing unit (and many others across the country) is acting in response to a U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development ban on smoking in public housing that includes any areas within 25 feet of a building.
"Banning public housing residents from smoking is unfairly discriminatory for a variety of reasons," University of Houston law professors Dave Fagundes and Jessica L. Roberts write in a 2019 essay published in the Northwestern University Law Review. They continue:
Because a violation could lead to eviction, the policy may well push many public housing residents out onto the street, ironically worsening health outcomes. The rule also intrudes into the private lives of smokers in public housing by forbidding them from engaging in lawful conduct in the sanctity of their homes. It singles out smokers for regulation in a way that validates stigma. Finally, HUD's smoke-free policy poses unappreciated distributional concerns, with the heaviest burdens falling on historically disadvantaged populations like the elderly, people with disabilities, certain racial and ethnic minorities, and the poor.
Read the whole essay here.
FREE MARKETS
Trump proposes getting the Food and Drug Administration out of tobacco regulation.
I'd need to know details, but this is potentially a good idea. Putting the FDA in charge of tobacco was a bad fit from day one. https://t.co/ekpdqaNPuK
— Jacob Grier (is not here) (@jacobgrier) February 10, 2020
QUICK HITS
- The Justice Department is suing the states of California and New Jersey, along with King County, Washington, over their sanctuary policies.
- Pentagon officials have upped the reported number of U.S. troops who sustained traumatic brain injuries in Iran's attack on an Iraqi military base last month to 109.
- Meanwhile, in New Hampshire:
In Hudson, N.H., Joe Biden tells a young boy "we should eliminate and transition away from the use of plastics." pic.twitter.com/zIuiHnn8U6
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) February 10, 2020
- Tom Steyer will see fellow Democratic presidential candidates' plans to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour and raise them one $22-per-hour minimum wage.
- Virginia legislators are advancing bills to usher in marijuana decriminalization, legal casinos, online sports betting, and new gun regulations. The state may also finally remove a law criminalizing sex between unmarried people from the books.
- Avalon condemns "the decentralization of the family" and David Brooks approves (and, of course, takes the opportunity to beat up on freedom and individualism again).
- A New York doctor is advancing a simple test that could help explain why many miscarriages happen. Zev Williams, director of the Columbia University Fertility Center "has a patent on the method of preparing and testing samples and anticipates he will work with a commercial partner to offer it to doctors across the country," reports NBC News. "Eventually, he hopes to further lower the cost."
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Trump proposes getting the Food and Drug Administration out of tobacco regulation.
They need to concentrate on vape products.
Hello.
The BDS movement is anti-semitism by other means.
While I tend to agree, this "We use our regulations on contractors to force feed policy" thing is tiresome. For years, bloating governments have been using this loophole to force private individuals to behave in ways that they could never otherwise legislate.
It's like one of my kids was rooting around in the garage and found one of my wood chisels, and used it to scrape paint off their skateboard. And now that trick has worked, they just use it everywhere, misusing my chisels to scrape gum off tables, and wedge doors open, etc.
So?
I 100% agree. I am completely supportive of Israel (if not every single thing their government chooses to do). However, I do find it a little odd to pass some of these anti-BDS laws.
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Pentagon officials have upped the reported number of U.S. troops who sustained traumatic brain injuries in Iran's attack on an Iraqi military base last month to 109.
So it's cause for war with Iran after all.
Wel yeah, but if only we had a real man in the White House.
What exactly is a TBI? Having served in the military and deployed to that region, I can tell you that the temptation to find any excuse to get out of there, if only for a little while, was powerful. If I see several people with headaches getting a trip to Germany or wherever then my head just might start hurting. Our military was shelled repeatedly in other wars and I don't recall ever reading or seeing anything about entire units knocked out for this. Most of these guys have been deployed several times with no end in sight and an increasingly unfavorable view of why they should be there in the first place. Just an opinion, I could be wrong.
Our military was shelled repeatedly in other wars and I don’t recall ever reading or seeing anything about entire units knocked out for this.
Ballistic missiles carry a significantly larger warhead than an artillery shell. The M795 155 mm shell weighs 47 kg and has an explosive charge of 11 kg. The Shahab-3 can carry a 1,200 kg warhead.
It is also possible that TBI was commonly misdiagnosed in other wars. It is a newer diagnosis, that is possible because of our better understanding of medical science.
Yep. I’m sure there were a lot of undiagnosed concussions and TBI in the past.
I recommend The Long Walk by Brian Castner. Briefly, TBI is the result of explosions sending pressure waves through the brain. Like sound, the pressure waves pass through solids and liquids. Also like sound, the waves pass through different materials at different speeds and refract at points where the material properties change. Since the brain is a complex combination of solids and liquids, that refraction causes micro-tears in the brain itself. Bulletproof helmets and walls provide protection from shrapnel but not from the pressure wave. If you can hear it, you're exposed to it. Distance is the only protection since the energy of the pressure wave is dissipated as the square of the distance.
The brain is well able to recover from a few isolated exposures but the experience in Iraq (especially in units like EOD) has been far higher in frequency and magnitude than in prior wars. In addition, I think we're seeing a lot of cases which were simply undiagnosed in prior wars.
That said, you are correct to be concerned about goldbricking. That's been a temptation in the service since at least the time of the Romans.
Thanks for that. I knew what TBI was in general, but I wondered if the threshold of what constituted one is lower than in the past. You all are correct, we take it seriously now. I don't necessarily disbelieve anyone complaining and certainly get checked out, but I also know Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen! 🙂
By the way, I should add that the pressure wave creates micro-tears in other body tissues, too. Lungs, muscles, internal organs, etc. The brain is different in that 1) it doesn't heal the way other tissues do and 2) the shape of the human skull acts as a sort-of lens increasing the refractive damage to the brain.
Hey, being part of the E-4 mafia is a time honored tradition. They key is to know when to stop and get the fucking job done, and when to sham.
You are wrong.
One thing you might have learned was let the medicals do their job.
In Hudson, N.H., Joe Biden tells a young boy "we should eliminate and transition away from the use of plastics."
Hunter's new business venture is paper straws?
They're doing a reboot of The Graduate.
Is it in Ukraine?
it is interesting that the Democrats think "we're going to shut down your jobs" is a winning strategy
Just like how I am sure their promise to ban fracking is going to go over so well in western and northern Pennsylvania. Did the forget November of 2016?
Let's see... they want to destroy the fracking/oil/coal industries, they want to kill the entire private medical insurance industry, they also want to kill the firearm industry, the vaping industry, and want to open the borders to every ragtag asshole who can crawl into the country. What happens to an economy when you cut millions of jobs (not to mention the jobs that depend on the jobs they want to cut) and then flood the economy with even more unemployed laborers again?
Didn't Reason post an article recently claiming what Appalachia (already high unemployment and depressed industry) needs is more immigrants?
One word...... "hemp"
Paper vaping paraphernalia
Well at least he has years of experience in the field this time; from sticking them in his nose.
Nice
Tom Steyer will see fellow Democratic presidential candidates' plans to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour and raise them one $22-per-hour minimum wage.
And the vote auction begins in earnest.
I'm holding out for $50.
Yang's is still better. Money for nothin' and your chicks for free.
I want my UBI
I want my, I want my, I want my UBIIIII... It works, maybe Weird Al can redo his parody I Want Hillbillies?
Steyer's made his money. What does he care if you can't find a job?
You can find a job if you really want to work
Georgia Can't Compel School Speakers To Promise They Won't Boycott Israel, Argues New Federal Lawsuit
Good. It's a stupid law that likely violates the 1st Amendment.
I bet these same "Civil Rights organizations" will be suing Commifornia for prohibiting state officials from doing business with the NRA. That is right after the lawsuit suing states for violating the 2nd Amendment.
Or suing San Antonio and Buffalo for refusing to contract with Chik-Fil-A for airport concessions because of what charities the CEO supports.
Commifornia -- good one. Unreason, Commifornia, you are just a fount of clever satiric names.
It's "unreason". They dont deserve capitalization.
don't hold your breath. it is bad law but the school also doesn't have to hire an anti semite to speak
There's a difference between a school willingly choosing to avoid associations with anti-semitic individuals, and a law telling the school they can't have anti-semitic people working for them.
a couple of things, The democrats are a total dumpster fire of terrible. Also did anyone read about the Bernie supporter driving into and attempting to murder people at a republican registration tent? Because I didn't. That fact that will never be a story as large as the Covington one tells you everything you need to know about the corporate press.
Pick your excuse:
1. too local
2. that's different
3. that's racist against vans
4. the tent was dressed provocatively, and was asking for it.
http://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/02/10/republicans-vow-revenge-at-ballot-box-after-volunteers-nearly-hit-by-van-1259988
Now, that's FUNNY!
Darn GOPers! Why'd they put that tent there?
Maybe they were displaying solidarity with the homeless?
It's not on the Google news feed today.
Oh, but the Republicans are wonderful, brave, morally upstanding people.
Compared to people who assault others, deface private and public property and run their vans through tents because the ones they are attacking support the wrong party? You draw the conclusion.
"Oh, but the Republicans are wonderful, brave, morally upstanding people."
You and that hag lost in '16; shut up and grow up.
Both sides!
The only difference between the alt-righter at Charlottesville and the Bernie supporter is that the alt-righter was successful. The left hates that.
And the Charlottesville incident was a single event, this is a growing trend among the progressives. Chain-locks, vandalism, destruction of private property, shooting US Senators practicing for a baseball game, attacking a US senator in his yard...
Punch a Nazi (but have no idea what real Nazism was and simply label anyone to your right as a Nazi).
Single incident, other than those mass shootings, maga-bombings, and whatnot. Just for once, I'd like to meet someone who supports Trump who doesn't live in an alternative facts universe.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-08-10/fbi-struggles-to-confront-domestic-terrorism-by-right-wing-groups
""maga-bombings,""
What maga-bombings?
He's talking about the idiot that made of bunch of non-functioning pipe bombs and sent them out to various media outlets.
That's what I was thinking but I wanted to hear it from him. Since there was no actual bombings, he's making shit up.
Or perhaps he's talking about something else.
I still don't think sending non-functioning plastic tubes with scary messages is illegal.
Depending on the message, maybe a threat crime.
That's like arresting people for some gun crime while holding plastic toy guns. They were either a functioning bomb or they were not a bomb.
A largely debunked story is your source? What mass shootings? A single mass shooting of a person who was a radical environmentalist also opposed to immigration, i.e. hardly what you would label a right winger (not many are radical environmentalist), whose main opposition to immigration was because of the environmental impacts of immigration? The shooter in the Gilroy case mentioned by your cited article was of Iranian decent who called white people "twats" on social media, who had also considered targeting religious (Christian mainly) organizations and Republicans. That sure sounds like a right-winger to me, a Persian who hates whites and wanted to target Christians and Republicans. A single bomber who may or may not have been actually alt-right.
James Hodgkinson and the Dayton shooter never existed in DOL's world. In DOL's world, only right-wingers are responsible for chaotic acts of murder and attempted murder.
The state may also finally remove a law criminalizing sex between unmarried people from the books.
Taking the virgin out of Virginia.
Alternate joke:
Virginia is for sinful lovers.
Virginia legislators are advancing bills to usher in marijuana decriminalization, legal casinos, online sports betting, and new gun regulations.
Had me then you lost me.
'The intelligence coup of the century’
Look at WaPo try and do actual news.
I would not be surprised if the CIA had ownership in a lot of technology that suppose to help keep you private.
There was some news years ago about every Cisco router going overseas was intercepted and "upgraded" by NSA engineers.
Snowden: The NSA planted backdoors in Cisco products
You know China does do the same thing but they dont have a media industry that wants to out what the Commies are doing.
Spies gonna spy.
"Tom Steyer will see fellow Democratic presidential candidates' plans to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour and raise them one $22-per-hour minimum wage."
I will criticize Democrats when they deserve it. And they're definitely wrong on this issue.
As a Koch / Reason libertarian, my primary objective is to make the richest people on the planet even richer. The minimum wage should, in fact, be $0.00 / hour. This, combined with unlimited, unrestricted immigration, would be the best possible economic environment for our benefactor Charles Koch.
#AbolishTheMinimumWage
The minimum wage should, in fact, be $0.00 / hour.
Amen. I know a group of sales people who work for $0.00 and hour. They’re on 100% commissions. If they don’t work, they don’t get paid. Or they can make $40,000 during the first five days of the month, and then go golfing for the next 25 days.
Precisely. But I'm not only talking about jobs with tips or commissions. If immigrants from Mexico are willing to scrub Charles Koch's toilets for $0.03 per day, that's just the free market at work.
The true minimum wage *is* $0.00. \That's what you're paid after you get fired since you're not worth what some union pimp thinks somebody ought to pay.
"The rule also intrudes into the private lives of smokers in public housing by forbidding them from engaging in lawful conduct in the sanctity of their homes."
It isnt their home. It is the taxpayers.
And to clarify...
Tobacco smoke causes damage to carpets and drywall. Just like we wouldnt allow residents of HUD housing to kick holes in the wall we shouldn't allow them to damage the residences in other ways. No issue with them smoking in parking lots or designated areas. But as a condition of free shit, don't wreck the free shit.
Yeah, my first apartment had No Smoking rules. And every hotel I've ever stayed at had no smoking rules. Why the Public Housing commissions can't do the same to protect their investment, is a confusing to me.
The obvious way to fix this is to sell off Public Housing, and if we must have welfare, give grants to states or to the unfortunate directly.
I 100% agree, but kicking her out for smoking in the parking lot?? Smoking is disgusting and should be disallowed in most places, but I grew up in the 80s when they still had ashtrays on everyone’s desk in the office. When I went to college the large lecture halls had ashtrays in the armrests of the seats, like on airplanes. The whole anti-smoking crowd has gone fucking crazy. I’m perfectly fine with making the take it outside, but now most of the areas “outside” are no-smoking as well. These people won’t be satisfied until they make smokes $20 a pack, or make them illegal all together.
BUT WEED TOTES COOL TO SMOKE!
/Lefty anti-cigarette tyrant
""These people won’t be satisfied until they make smokes $20 a pack, or make them illegal all together."'
They are only interested in the first so they can collect taxes. The want to ride the line but keep the cash cow alive.
That is why they keep hiking taxes as people stop using tobacco (and why they are now wanting to tax vape or ban it all together). They are addicted to the tobacco tax dollar, but they are getting diminishing returns. They claim they do it for the "children" or "health" but it is really about tax money and power.
When it's government, it's always about money and power.
It’s a tax on the poor. Poor people smoke proportionately more than rich people, and they are the ones who can least afford to pay for it. That’s why when the democratic governor of my State raised the taxes on cigarettes, and set an automatic ratchet to raise the tax every year into perpetuity, I sarcastically applauded him and told him it’s about damn time we made the poor pay their fair share.
""I sarcastically applauded him and told him it’s about damn time we made the poor pay their fair share.""
Ha!
I agree, tobacco taxes are regressive. Sin taxes usually are.
They're just doing it for their own good. It can't be regressive if they are doing it for the other people's own good, don't you know?
Ye shall not sin, for I shall make it too expensive.
Rich people smoke Cuban cigars and tobacco in pipes which is not taxed the same. Especially since Cubans are usually purchased by people traveling to Cuba or from countries where its legal to sell them.
No, it's actually not. It's their home just like your apartment is your home even though the landlord owns the building. You can give up some rights as a matter of contract but:
1. Your analogy of kicking holes in the wall to tobacco smoke damage ignores the fact that we use damage deposits instead of boot-bans to prevent wall kicking.
2. The smoke damage rationale is not a reasonable justification for a ban in the parking lot.
3 and most importantly. Public housing is an arm of the government and thus subject to different rules than private landlords.
Does that mean I can go in the bathroom while they are showering?
Yes. But only with a Biden like creepy smile on your face.
"...Because a violation could lead to eviction, the policy may well push many public housing residents out onto the street, ironically worsening health outcomes..."
Which is social engineering; really none of the government's business, nor the business of a "law" professor.
The rule also intrudes into the private lives of smokers in public housing by forbidding them from engaging in lawful conduct in the sanctity of their homes.
Breaking news: Taxpayer subsidization comes with strings.
Butt, butt, butt...
I smoke a pipe, therefore I don't have to deal with cigarette butts, and good pipe tobacco pairs much better with higher end bourbon and rye then cigarettes.
We need a bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Marijuana to tax and regulate.
Do away with ATF, put illegal gun running under Fbi
Im taking the "smarter, smaller" incremental approach, not the idealidtic " do away with it all" approach that is a non-starter
There should be no "illegal gun running" or any other Arms control laws in the USA.
The 2nd Amendment strictly prohibits it.
Under the 2A, I can build, buy, sell, use, travel with... any Arms that I wish to possess. Grenades, bombs, rifles, pistols, swords, knives, tanks, APCs, ships, aircraft, cannons, mines, any ammo....
BRAIN TRAUMA More than 100 US troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in Iran strike after Trump said no one ‘seriously hurt’
The Propagandists at unreason have not been updating us on this developing story. There are now 100 US service members treated for TBI.
No US service members were killed or immediately physically injured the when the Irianian military attacked the base in Iraq.
It's almost like Lefties and their Propagandists wish US service members were injured just to go after Trump.
Got to document ffg or benefits.
In hear some of them might also have been exposed to Roundup
But, lucky for us, you are there to keep watch on them all.
Grow up.
Its a new NEW unreason sock troll.
unreason staff are too chicken shit to openly post how upset they are that they are being criticized for being as horrible as they are.
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s rise in the Democratic presidential primary could come to a grinding halt after newly-surfaced audio from a 2015 speech he gave features him staunchly defending the controversial stop and frisk policy.
More than that, however, the language Bloomberg used in defending the policy is not going over well among Democratic voters.
"Ninety-five percent of murders—murderers and murder victims—fit one M.O. You can just take a description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops," he said during a speech to the Aspen Institute. "They are male, minorities, 16-25. That's true in New York, that's true in virtually every city (inaudible). And that's where the real crime is. You've got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed."
Bloomberg said. "Yes, that's true. Why do we do it? Because that's where all the crime is. And the way you get the guns out of the kids' hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them...
But Buttigiegs ancestors were slave owners on stolen land. Who is a woketarian to vote for?!?
Mayor Pete can atone for that by supporting reparations for slavery.
#LibertariansForReparations
The same way VA Governor blackface can.
I've got a proposal. His family didn't immigrate to the US until after slavery was abolished and he was the private club owner in Palm Beach to allow gay members.
New Hampshire's primary is today, but there's one town with 5 residents that votes at midnight and brags about their 100% participation.
The results:
Buttigieg - 1
Sanders - 1
Bloomberg (write in) - 3
Bloomberg would lose to Trump too.
I hope they put that authoritarian douche up against Trump for election 2020.
No way Black Americans are going to vote for a tyrant like Bloomberg that allowed stop-and-frisk and locked up tens of thousands of Black Americans into the new York penal system.
You seem to be assuming that Trump is willing to actually use "stop-and-frisk" against Bloomberg.
It will take some fancy rhetoric on Trump's part to take on Bloomberg without alienating that part of his base who might stay home because they think he's gone soft on crime.
That said, I actually believe that in November, Trump could quite possibly not only keep getting blue-collars whites out in droves but get possibly ten percent of black males turning out for him.
Done wrong, and he will not only leave the fence sitters who might crossover voting for whoever the Ds nominate he might end up alienating a significant portion of his base.
Anyone who supports "Stop-and-Frisk" is NOT an law & order kind of person. Stop-and-Frisk is 100% unconstitutional no matter what the courts say.
If you don't support the supreme law of this land, then you are not a law & order kind of person.
WOW! Bloomberg at 60%! Landslide!
Or maybe, just maybe, nobody cares, it is a democratic primary, not a real election.
Shocked that the DNC didn’t force the 5 person town to plug their results into some broke ass app on their iPad to send in the results.
An app too far...
He's overstating it, but not by much. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/ss/ss6809a1.htm?s_cid=ss6809a1_w#results
2016 CDC Morbidity and Mortality report on homicide for the year. It's lower for the minority groups than I remember in previous years, and I consequently suspect some Obama Administration screwing around with the data, but even so, it lists that about 2/3 of the homicide victims were black (~1/2) or Hispanic (~1/6). Violent crime is usually a minority endeavor.
"You’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed.”
Which says all you need to know about what Michael Bloomberg thinks of your rights as an individual and an American citizen. No, don't take guns out of the hands of those doing the killing; we need to disarm the victims.
I don't think Mini-Mikey really has a great shot. You think this is just the only clip? 🙂
Oh, I think he's absolutely terrible, both his candidacy chances and as a human being. I'm just pointing out what the CDC's stats say on violent crime and how they somewhat agree with his politically unfortunate and incorrect comments.
Mikey will have to console himself with bankrolling state and lower federal races, and achieving his desired social disorder that way. If Steyer had more charisma than a turnip, he might be a dangerous opponent for Trump.
My own suggestions for lowering violent crime are to take guns out of the hands of the violent. Preferably by keeping them locked up.
But Sanders and Warren are sponsoring a bill to study the effects of FOSTA
Sponsoring a bill, to study the effects of another bill??? Are these people fucking insane? It seems like the private sector has already studied the bill, and have determined that it should never have seen the light of day in the first place!
You don't want them to study a bill BEFORE they pass it, do you?
Or even read it.
"Tom Steyer will see fellow Democratic presidential candidates’ plans to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour and raise them one $22-per-hour minimum wage."
And that ignorant slut-twit AOC wants a 15-hour work week. It's like they're all talking out of their asses but only the farts are connecting.*
Why $7? Why not $10? Doesn't he know a 'living wage' is a moving target?
What will Warren do in response? Abolish debt and the concept of loans outright? Free mortgages and....a comb!?
What about Grandpa Gulag? Will he promise the bread lines won't be long? Americans are so lazy and spoiled that they don't want to wait one hour in line for bread? What has this country become?
And Wang? Will he increase his UBI to $1100? $1200?
The Democrat party of the United States of America is out of its illiberal, cotton pickin' mind.
*I have no idea what that means.
But trump wont balance the budget in 8 years so he is worse.
"But trump wont balance the budget in 8 years so he is worse."
So true....
These candidates wouldn't propose these policies if they didn't think a majority of their voters wanted them. See, Pogo's observation on wh the real enemy is.
Most Americans want other people to give them things, and they don't feel they should have to pay. Something, something, the public figured out it can vote itself rich...
Is it most Americans or most humans?
I don't care about how most people act in the context of asking why American politicians pander shamelessly with budget proposals. I care about how most Americans act. Though most people globally are probably worse about this than most Americans, and as politicians, and entities like Reason, lobby to bring more people from around the world to the US, where they will inevitably vote, this desire for free shit will get worse. So will our politicians.
""Why $7? Why not $10? Doesn’t he know a ‘living wage’ is a moving target? ""
A living wage is the first step to prevailing wages. A living wage will not be good enough.
Why did that NYC bathroom cost 2.2 Million? The term prevailing wage was used.
Ultra-rare snowfall carpets Baghdad
Global Warming, indeed!
it's 'climate change' you ignorant slut.
For the first time, Sanders leads Biden in a national Quinnipiac poll.
Keeping Venezuela out of the news pays dividends journalists will find they ultimately didn't want.
OMG! Major new Drumpf scandal!
Trump on coronavirus: "We only have 11 cases, and they're all getting better." It's 12 confirmed cases.
We need to #Impeach him again for telling such an indefensible lie about this deadly virus. He's clearly trying to downplay how inept his government's response has been.
#VoteDemocratToFightViruses
Nice try. However the dems willingness to blame Trump for every little thing makes the statement plausible. Sort stole your thunder on that one.
Duterte to Scrap U.S. Military Agreement in Rebuke of Trump
For some reason, the Filipinos always call the USA when the get invaded.
Sometimes so they can say "Please stop invading us."
Don't worry, we will return.
+1000
Hey Reason, how come your resident "campus speech/censorship" gadfly never has anything to say about a nationwide campaign of campus censorship designed to protect a foreign government?
Uh, maybe because BDS is the norm, not anti-BDS. In fact, anti-BDS only exists because almost every college promotes BDS.
That seem too obvious? Neither has a place in state govt
Think he means the China propaganda in the confusious centers.
I will not forfeit my constitutional rights by signing this pledge...
You know who else stood their ground against the Jews?
Imperator Nero?
Gessius Florus?
Pontius Pilate?
FDR?
Nebuchadnezzar II?
Al Sharpton?
The combined arab armies?
Wait, that's not right.
Senacharib?
Charles Lindbergh?
Officer told to ‘tone down’ gayness settles suit for $10.25M
That sure will buy a bunch of dicks!
I wonder if the Lefty MSM will discuss how this lawsuit settlement will take money from the SCHOOLZ?
Georgia cant force people to pledge to not boycott Israel, but California can boycott Georgia....
And New York can outlaw the NRA - - - -
Iran Again Fails to Put Satellite Into Orbit
Poor Persia. Rockets don't work on hatred of Infidels?
There is a limit to the altitude a flying carpet will reach.
Good!
awesome.
Allah Akbar!
They can't get it up.
"Modeled after the global South African anti-apartheid movement"
Fuck right off with that shit. Israel isn't my country, but it's OK under all the circumstances, and it's being attacked as racist by the same kind of people who call America racist, and who would target America if they could (if they haven't already).
http://www.dailywire.com/news/technocratic-racism-bloomberg-allegedly-advocates-for-targeting-minorities-in-explosive-audio
Yesterday a recording of a Mike Bloomberg speech at the Aspen Institute in 2013 that wasn't supposed to get out to the proles did get out. In the speech Bloomberg says that police have to target minorities because "that is where the crime is".
I so hope they nominate Bloomberg. Bloomberg is a perfect example of who the Democratic party is or at least who runs the party; a corrupt, dictatorial, incompetent, hypocritical racist. Bloomberg is the gentry left. If you had a Bloomberg Bernie unity ticket you would then cover the drooling college leftist retards and have a perfect ticket for the Democratic Party as it is in 2020.
It's one thing to go where the crime is and notice, disappointedly, how many nonwhites are engaging in crime.
But to say target minorities as such, is a step too far. Unless it's part of the description of a suspect. If the suspect is described as black and male you don't pat down young Asian women (no matter what kind of kink it serves).
Assuming he was quoted correctly.
1. Pointing out that high crime areas are minority neighborhoods will not get you the minority vote.
2. Bloomberg was defending an unconstitutional policy.
Plenty for everyone to not like.
Pointing out the high crime in minority neighborhoods can be "anti-racist" if cited in the context of white neglect of communities of color.
Who do you think wanted the stiffer crack penalties in the first place?
So long as the punch-line is "whitey is racist," the set-up can be either "too many POC in prison" or "white neglect allows POC neighborhoods to suffer from crime."
Bloomberg is just engaging in the kind of collectivist thinking that leftist love. If black people have a greater chance of being a criminal, then in Bloomberg's view it is perfectly okay for police to target black people entirely on the basis of being black. It doesn't matter if you work on Wall Street and are wearing a suit, the police can treat you no differently than they would a someone wearing gang colors and who fits the description of a robbery suspect.
Indeed, that is the real difference between how the NYPD treated blacks and whites. Poor whites got treated badly just like poor blacks. But rich whites got a pass. Rich or well off blacks got treated just like they were poor. If you were black, you were getting harassed no matter what.
What's funny is stop and frisk was a continuation of Giuliani. Bloomberg didn't start it. Once that connection is made, I don't think Bloomberg stands a chance on team blue.
Stop and frisk is only necessary because of NYC's barbaric gun laws. New York makes it impossible for its citizens to be legally armed. As a result, mugging people is a good living for a criminal. Since the police cannot be everywhere at once, the only way the police could protect the public against muggings and street crime was to get the criminals before they committed the act. So, they engaged in stop and frisk and arrested anyone found with a weapon. This made mugging a risking endevour again because it meant risking getting stopped and frisked and arrested on your way to or after you had committed the crime.
If New York would just let their citizens defend themselves, street muggings would be a contact sport and something only someone with a death wish tried to do and there wouldn't be any need for stop and frisk. So the NYC liberals who whine about stop and frisk have only themselves and their idiotic attitude towards gun ownership to blame.
""Stop and frisk is only necessary because of NYC’s barbaric gun laws. "'
No, it's not necessary at all. But if high crime rates make it so, then there are plenty of examples of high crime rates where stop and frisk is "necessary" in pro gun cities and states.
You might be closer with the idea that NYers are not really allowed to defend themselves. Cops will arrest both parties and let the courts figure it out. The courts are not kind to you exercising that right either.
It was just an authoritarian solution to a crime problem. And that was one of Giuliani's more tame "solutions". I remember he would have the NYPD seize control of neighborhoods by block streets and requiring you to show ID before you could enter.
In cities that have decent gun laws, there are now "high crime areas" where street muggings and such happen with great frequency. There are high crime areas where people sell drugs and shoot one another over turf. But what you don't have is criminals coming into good neighborhoods and preying on people in the street. You only have that in New York City and other cities where they know their victim isn't going to be armed.
And understand stop and frisk was about protecting the people in the nice areas of New York from being mugged. The city couldn't care less about poor people.
""And understand stop and frisk was about protecting the people in the nice areas of New York from being mugged""
Uh no. It was about enforcing draconian gun laws. It was an unconstitutional search to see if anyone was violating NYC strict gun laws.
That was an added bonus. But the real purpose was to do something about the street crime in the good neighborhoods. The law abiding people are not going to carry a gun if it is against the law. So, the gun laws left them defenseless and made mugging them a good way for a criminal to make a living. The only way to stop them was for the police to engage in stop and frisk. You are missing my point.
No it wasn't the "bonus". They were clear at the time that it was about getting guns off the street.
John, I think you're just confusing two things from back then.
Stop and frisk was about guns.
Going after low level offenders (quality of life crimes) was Giuliani's way of trying to reduce crime over all. Broken windows theory.
John, Vic....Is it possible you are both right? SAF was started to get guns off the street and to look out for wealthy neighborhoods?
People who might have a gun on them to defend themselves would be treated the same as if they were the criminal praying on people.
I rewatched Death Wish 3 the other day. Amazing that this shit has been going on for decades, and there's a simple answer that the Dems won't try because it would mean admitting they were wrong.
Continued it and stepped it up on steroids.
When have you ever given as much leeway to a conservative who said something racially ambiguous? Never that I have seen on Reason.
Sorry, misread, thought you were Eric. However, is subsequent remarks about xerox is much less forgivable.
Between that and his speech from a couple of years ago talking about "selling" tranny bathrooms to the people in the Midwest, I have to wonder if Pete's connections in the DNC are leaking this shit to get Bloomberg to back off.
The biggest knee-slapper in his advertising is the implication that he can get Republicans and Democrats to work together. Sure, I can see neocon/neolib Monoparty backing his proposals since he's thoroughly one of them. But Congress the way it's constructed now? Forget it.
Tom Steyer will see fellow Democratic presidential candidates' plans to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour and raise them one $22-per-hour minimum wage.
Why not $50, you damn cheapskate? If everyone is getting a raise, I want one too.
"I will not forfeit my constitutional rights by signing this pledge," said Martin at a press conference yesterday."
No one should be compelled to forfeit their constitutional rights in order to speak.
Does Georgia Southern University insist that speakers forfeit their rights if they're anti-gay marriage, anti-affirmative action, or pro-border wall--on the basis that their speech might be (mis)construed as homophobic, racist, or xenophobic? Compelling someone not to say anything that could be (mis)construed as antisemitic would seem to fall under the same category.
Of course, if they compel three other groups to forfeit their free speech rights as a condition of speaking, that doesn't justify violating the rights of a fourth group, but if there were an argument for consistency here, they should probably NOT violate anyone's rights equally.
Embittered “Never Trump” Republicans tied to former Ohio Gov. John Kasich have secretly schemed to assist Joe Biden’s campaign — because they think he’s the only Democrat who can beat the president and help them get “revenge,” The Post has learned.
Emails obtained by The Post show that two top staffers from Kasich’s failed, 2016 primary campaign and Ohio’s former GOP chairman, a Kasich ally, were among those involved in efforts to boost support for the former vice president in last week’s botched Iowa caucus and Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary.
http://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/the-morning-briefing-lets-stop-calling-them-never-trump-republicans/
Churchill famously compared the Germans sending Lenin back to Russia as the same as releasing a deadly virus into the country. This isn't quite that grave. But, if sending Krystol and Kaisich to "assist" the Democrats isn't some Trump funded dirty trick, it should be. As if poor old Joe didn't have it hard enough with his crack head son and all, now he gets these retards showing up to "help".
5th Columnists in politics must be big business.
Waiting for the Biden/Romney unity ticket.
Bloomberg Romney third party ticket. I swear to God these people are so out of touch with reality they might try it and think they could win.
It's personal with Romney.
I suspect it has a lot to do with jealousy on his behalf, too.
Trump succeeded in becoming president where Romney failed. It was hard enough for someone like Romney to deal with failure. Why'd Trump have to rub salt in his wounds by doing what Romney couldn't?
Remember that scene in Amadeus when Salieri reveals the source of his hatred for Mozart?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYHJRhRym1U
"Why would God choose an obscene child to be his instrument?"
----Salieri
That's Romney.
Romney wanted to be what Trump is, but God chose an obscene child and gave him Romney's dream instead.
Better get over it, Romney, or when you get to heaven, God might make you Trump's roommate for eternity.
Very plausible re: Romney being jealous. And great movie, even with Pinto as the main character.
Pretty petty of Romney to be jealous considering how he basically threw the 2012 election.
I'd say it wasn't so much an issue of him throwing the election, as it was being backed and advised primarily by people in his own party that didn't really want him to win.
Kasich is on it! lol Biden should run away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
So recent developments show that US governments cannot refuse to to contract with people for supporting boycotts of Israel but they can refuse to contract with people for supporting the Salvation Army.
We live in absurd times.
actually the commerce dept forbids any us corporation from participating in ANY boycott unless expressly directed to do so (such as in the case of terrorist states like Iran)
So , govt decides not only who you can't trade with but who you MUST trade with.
"...Sanders tops Biden..."
Old man with free lollipops beats stumbling old man in race to get un-elected!
Is this a version of musical chairs?
Yeah, but when the music stops, Trump pulls the chair out from under you.
Insert, I mean look for, "Sanders tops Buttigieg" joke here.
Hey, if the government can't impose ideology, why bother having one?
David Brooks has a creepy mind.
Are we talking about speakers hired by the university itself, at its own initiative, or spekers invited by student groups under an open-forum policy? If the latter, there should *not* be any loyalty oaths.
There's a guy in the story below who allegedly open fired on the cops in NYC twice in 12 hours--and he's threatening to shoot more cops when he gets out of prison.
In the second attack, he allegedly stormed a precinct for the sole purpose of shooting at the police.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/10/alleged-bronx-cop-shooter-robert-williams-threatens-to-shoot-more-cops/
I'm reading elsewhere that the suspect was released from prison in 2017. He was in for attempted murder in 2002, and that episode also apparently ended in a shootout with the police.
When I see the term "sentencing reform", I tend to interpret it to mean that some of our mandatory sentences for drug crimes are way out of proportion. When I see someone who apparently does 15 years for attempted murder and goes on a shooting spree a couple years after being released, however, I don't think reducing his sentence in a mandatory way makes any more sense than increasing the sentence for marijuana possession in a mandatory way makes sense.
Some of the worst police abuses we've seen in recent decades came from liberal places like California and New York City, and they were thoroughly supported by what we now call progressive voters, who were fed up with prosecutors and lawmakers not doing enough about violent crime and failing to keep violent offenders locked in cages where they belong.
Giuliani's "stop and frisk" and "broken windows" policies didn't emerge in a vacuum. Didn't a lot of that come as a reaction to the policies of predecessors, like Mayor Dinkins? I appreciate that some progressives are now trying to argue that Dinkins wasn't nearly as much to blame for crime as people perceived and that Giuliani doesn't deserve as much credit as he's given by the general public for getting crime under control. Regardless, my point is that people's perceptions is what drives their support for the kinds of "stop and frisk" and "broken windows" polices that progressives now bemoan. If "sentencing reform" goes far beyond cutting mandatory minimums for relatively harmless drug crimes and gets into slashing sentences for violent criminals, expect the general public--progressive or otherwise--to take another hard turn to the right on the issue of the police and what they can get away with.
Some of the biggest abuses we've seen from police and the justice system have also come from liberal California. The "three strikes" law was one, and it was a reaction to prosecutors and judges not putting violent offenders away for longer periods of time. I remember reading about a guy getting his third strike on a strong arm robbery charge after he threatened to beat up a guy if he didn't hand over his pizza. Yeah, he got a life sentence for stealing a pizza.
The sex offender registry laws were the same way. Californians didn't think sex offenders were get long enough sentences, after they saw so many repeat offenders in the news, and the idea that these people were being let out of prison to live among us made them crazy. It's too bad that a 16 year old high school girl gets put on a registry as a sex offender for sending a picture to her high school boyfriend, like she's a serial child predator. If the general public had more faith that child predators were being put away and kept in cages where they belong, that wouldn't have been a thing.
Again, when I say I'm in favor of sentencing reform, I mean I'm in favor of getting rid of mandatory minimums for crimes that probably shouldn't even be felonies and maybe shouldn't be misdemeanors. Convince average people that "sentencing reform" is about letting violent offenders out of their cages sooner, and you'll quickly see them turn against it--and in favor of more, faster, stronger, harder, meaner, police.
That is what is wrong with all extreme ideologues, the all or nothing, my way or the highway, complete lack of pragmatism. And even libertarians and anarchist are susceptible (maybe even more so) as progressives and conservatives. Mandatory minimums do take away any discretion, and in many non-violent crimes, are not really defensible. However, when a radical judge gives a pedophile a 6 week jail term, with time served, people get upset. Or when a murderer gets parole rather then jail time, people are understandably upset. Finding the correct compromise is the answer, but to many are convinced of their own greater morality and therefore demand everyone else fall in line. Discretion is a good thing in most cases, but sometimes it can be abused. It is like immigration, you have the absolute open borders crowd and the absolutely no immigration crowd (though this latter group appears pretty diminutive except in the minds of the former crowd). The real solution is somewhere between, but to even suggest that, is to invite attack by both of the other groups.
Activist judges are a big problem--and mandatory minimums are likely an attempt to address that problem.
In California, another part of the problem was that California spends so much money on fat pensions for CalTrans workers, they don't build enough prisons. California was under federal order to release prisoners for years because overcrowding was so bad, it violated the prisoners' rights to be free from cruel and unusual punishment.
That has been a problem for decades. It's a symptom of one party government. When people will vote Democrat because of what's going on with social conservatives elsewhere in the country, the people in power can get away with murder. Elections should be decided on the basis of things like criminal justice administration, whether we spend money on prisons. The reason Sacramento can spend our money on bullet trains to nowhere instead of prisons is because voters in California get so wrapped up in what's happening elsewhere in the country.
Somebody says something stupid about "legitimate rape" elsewhere in the country, and suddenly letting violent offenders go free because there's nowhere for them to serve out their sentence becomes a non-issue. I don't know what we Californians can do.
. . . maybe we should all move to Montana!
We have Steve Bullock and Jon Tester, so it ain't all champagne (well at least Sparkling wine from the Bitterroot Valley or Billings) and caviar (paddlefish caviar from the Yellowstone River) up here.
Don't worry. We're not all coming to Montana.
I was just kidding!
Good because we are full (and so is my original home state of Idaho, at least according to my brother and parents).
I hate to break it to you. There are no dental floss tycoons.
Oh and Missoula (spell check keeps saying I am misspelling this and wants me to change it to Missouri???) is about as bat-shit crazy as Seattle and San Francisco, just much smaller. Oh and I figured you were kidding, so was I.
Yeah, but Missoula's a college town, so it makes sense that they'd be chock full of radical left-wingers.
I was honestly more surprised when my father-in-law told me that Billings tends to lean Republican, but I guess that's because so many jobs there are centered around the energy industry.
And agriculture, but less right then more rural areas.
Butte is another one that is far left, but it is a holdover from when it was a mining town and very pro-union. It is surprising that Kellogg and Wallace, ID, despite being extremely pro-union during the mining days, is now strongly right leaning.
mandatory minimums are likely an attempt to address that problem.
Mandatory minimums were enacted because wypipo are rayciss and can't be trusted to sentence impartially, so the decision was removed from their hands.
The backlash against mandatory minimums is because wypipo are rayciss and their laws are putting a disproportionate number of black people in jail.
to your point California crime rates are up with fewer prosecution due to AB47(?) you can now steal up to $800.00 worth and only be given a ticket, theft is thru the roof and now Gavin Newsom is talking about releasing criminals who have used guns in a crime. I think he only wants more gun crime so he can push for more gun control
They won't cut spending until there is no other choice--and maybe not even then.
You saw what happened to Detroit?
Before the Democrats in California voluntarily cut spending, it'll have to look worse than Detroit.
^This.
That's why you can't fret the deficit vs. tax revenues. The spending deficits, at state and federal levels, are not going to be reduced by giving them more of your money. It's never gonna happen that way.
Literally your guy here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taU95E6mJ7I
As usual this is happening in the clingers haven of Georgia! When will the bigots learn that their better will force tolerance down their pathetic necks! At least Georgia is attempting a law to stop bigoted clingers!
Wait... What did that say?... It's people protesting against the jews?.... Error... Abort... Retry...
As usual this is happening in the clingers haven of Georgia! The Georgia legislature is trying to stop their better from stomping on the necks of the clingers and end this racist occupation. The only way the isralies can show that they aren't racist is to let a the palistinians in and give them reperations, then go back to the surrounding areas! Iraq, Iran, ejypt, Syria, etc. All of those countries will be welcoming to the esralies, because as all us betters know Muslims are the only religion incapable of intolerance!
LMAO...nicely done.
I'm not going to be able to add anything about the constitutionality of anti-BDS laws that the wizards over at VC haven't already said, but just for the record, saying that they require a "pledge of allegiance" is just silly. They require a statement that the contractor does not and will not boycott Israel during the contract period. If this is a pledge of allegiance, then so is requiring a statement that a contractor does not discriminate against minority employees. Neither pledges allegiance, loyalty, or anything of the sort. These laws even explicitly state that not buying Israeli goods does not implicate the certification, when the refusal is because of a normal business decision. That's not to say that the laws are constitutional, or even wise, but they certainly don't require allegiance.
I don't see how telling a contractor they can't boycott Israel during the time of the contract is any different than requiring a contractor to not discriminate against gays during the contract period. It is the same thing. Take the term boycott out of it. What they are really saying is that business can't discriminate against Israelis if they want to do business with the government.
If I am not mistaken, the hacks over at VC have no problem with the government making such a requirement on contractors with regard to gays. The fact that they think it is different when done to benefit Israelis rather than gays just shows what hacks they are.
Not sure what Volokh post you're talking about but Eugene has explicitly stated that at least the Arkansas anti-BDS law is probably constitutional. This very article you're commenting on states that much, and links to VC posts on this topic. Meritless aspersions on Volokh aside, I agree that anyone who thinks non-discrimination requirements in contracts generally are constitutional but anti-BDS requirements are not needs to be able to justify that. One argument could be that the anti-BDS laws were adopted because of disagreement with BDS speech, and therefore are content-based, and further cannot satisfy strict scrutiny. That's assuming a lot, and the same argument could probably apply to a lot of other anti-discrimination laws. Those guys are a lot better at this than I am: EV literally wrote the book we used in a first amendment class I took, so I'm gonna defer to him on this.
>>The rule also intrudes into the private lives of smokers in public housing
if they were paying for their apartment they'd still have to be 26' away
They are probably paying for some of it. A lot of public housing is subsidized, not totally free.
What's the percentage of your payment required before your rights kick in?
"I'd need to know details, but this is potentially a good idea. Putting the FDA in charge of
tobacco*anything* was a bad fit from day one."FTFY
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"to end its occupation of Palestinian territory,"
You can't occupy the territory of a nation-state and people who did not exist prior to 1973.
THIS 1000X!!!
Bingo!
The funny thing about the BDS thing to me is that you're perfectly free to boycott Israeli companies and the companies that do business with Israel and you're perfectly free to divest yourself of investments in the same, but good luck trying to impose sanctions on them. Sanctions require government action so to the extent that you're supporting BDS you're supporting the idea that government should do something about people doing business with Israel. Well, they are - they're just doing the exact opposite of what you think they should be doing. What sort of principle is it when you're claiming the government shouldn't be able to discriminate against people who support BDS while at the same time you're demanding the government discriminate against people who oppose BDS? That's what sanctions are, you're just mad that they're sanctioning you instead of them.
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