Election 2020

Tonight Will Be Bernie's Time in the Barrel

Expect Biden, Warren, Buttigieg, et al, to relentlessly attack the Vermont socialist, heart-attack survivor, and accused electoral misogynist.

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The drama at tonight's Democratic debate is going to be all about Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.), and not simply because he stands accused of electoral misogyny by rival progressive Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.), who says the self-described socialist told her privately in 2018 that a "woman couldn't win" the presidency.

The bigger reason is that Sanders is emerging as a legitimate—and possibly even the leading—contender for the nomination of a party to which he doesn't even belong. Each debate so far has featured a breakout candidate who draws the collective fire of the field and barely makes it off the stage (Kamala Harris, we hardly knew ye!). Tonight will be Sanders' time in the barrel and it's hard to imagine him emerging unscathed.

According to some recent polls of Democratic voters, Sanders is leading all candidates in early-voting states Iowa and New Hampshire. With the exception of Bill Clinton in 1992, no Democrat since 1976, when the current primary system came online, has won his party's nomination without placing first in either Iowa or New Hampshire. With Sanders polling so well in both, he has to be taken super-seriously, despite trailing former Vice President Joe Biden by 10 points in national surveys of Democratic voters and also doing worse than Biden in polls versus Donald Trump (Biden beats the incumbent by an average of 4 percentage points, Sanders by 3 points).

Just as in 2016, Sanders' persistence and unapologetically hard-left policies are filling mainstream Democrats with anxiety about electability. This is a 78-year-old senator who had a heart attack last fall and yet according to all national polls remains solidly in second place among the dwindling field of Democratic hopefuls. Back in 2016, Sanders rained on Hillary Clinton's coronation as the first female president by refusing to concede until the Democratic National Convention, almost certainly helping to suppress enthusiasm for her in a general election that was ultimately decided by fewer than 80,000 votes. The Democratic National Committee's hacked emails plainly showed that the party establishment was secretly working to knee-cap Sanders and mainstream party members have never really forgiven Bernie and his supporters for forcing the matter.

Add to that the single-mindedness of Bernie supporters. As Margaret Carlson notes in The Daily Beast, a Quinnipiac Poll from last fall found that half of Sanders' supporters said they wouldn't vote for anyone else in the field if the former mayor of Burlington wasn't the candidate. In an election that is almost certainly going to be won by a candidate who pulls less than 50 percent of the popular vote, Democrats are rightly worried that Sanders fans will either stay home or vote third-party as a protest vote.

Expect Sanders' opponents to attack him tonight by forcing him to say exactly how he's going to pay for all the giveaways he promises to everyone. More than any other Democratic contender, Sanders has promised more free stuff if elected president—free college (and canceling of all student debt), free (or heavily subsidized) housing, and especially free health care (he is the popularizer of Medicare for All). Back in 2016, Sanders laid out plans to increase taxes by about one-third, an enormous amount that still wouldn't pay for an ever-growing list of programs.

But this time around, Sanders is generally hostile to discussing how to cover costs. "You're asking me to come up with an exact detailed plan of how every American—how much you're going to pay more in taxes, how much I'm going to pay," he said last fall as Elizabeth Warren finally laid out a plan to pay for her version of Medicare for All. "I don't think I have to do that right now."

Warren's plummet in the polls coincided exactly with her attempts to explain how she was going to afford all the free stuff she was promising, so don't expect Sanders to offer any details when it comes to footing the bill. But that's exactly how Biden, Warren, South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.), and billionaire environmentalist Tom Steyer will work Sanders over. And in so doing, they will reveal not simply his lack of seriousness but their own party's larger inability to imagine a government that is actually affordable. As Reason's Peter Suderman noted in December, arguably the most-moderate Democratic candidate, Joe Biden, is already calling for tax increases that are twice as large as what Hillary Clinton proposed just four years ago. Expect him especially to call out Sanders for irresponsible spending in a way that simultaneously reminds people that Democrats want to raise taxes while clawing back some of the freebies proposed by the senator.

All of this is a gift to Donald Trump, who has unashamedly presided over the return of trillion-dollar deficits. In the general election, he will focus on his tax cuts and steer the conversation toward the idea that Democrats are the spendthrift party that will also choke off economic growth. He won't be correct, exactly, as the GOP has played a signal role in busting the federal budget for the entirety of the 21st century. But such rhetoric almost certainly will be effective, whoever manages to win the Democratic nomination.

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  1. the idea that Democrats are the spendthrift party that will also choke off economic growth. He won’t be correct, exactly, as the GOP has played a signal role in busting the federal budget for the entirety of the 21st century.

    Note how Nick has to change the subject from “spendthrift” to “busting the budget”, i.e., the deficit, in order to assert the claim is not correct. Such strawmanning is an implicit admission Trump is exactly correct (otherwise the strawmanning wouldn’t be necessary), which as we all know is the very best kind of correct.

    1. Reason will never admit what the real budget issues are. Instead they will blame military and tax cuts while ignoring the majority of the budget.

    2. Like Obamacare has nothing to do with it. Also, Reason neglected to mention that our betters in California have budgeted free healthcare for 27,000 illegal immigrant senior citizens. 1/3 of the nations welfare transfer and all of those nice grants, go to the state of California. Now add in DeBlasio’s NYC. Now lets bring back the SALT deduction.

    3. Back in 2016, Sanders rained on Hillary Clinton’s coronation as the first female president by refusing to concede until the Democratic National Convention, almost certainly helping to suppress enthusiasm for her in a general election.

      Haha! Right! THAT’s what dragged down the hag! Before that she had millions of enthusiastic voters clamoring to be scolded by her! If anything, the drama increased her visibility as a victim of the patriarchy but undercut the trust in the Donkey brand. Her identity politics trumped his communism with the hierarchy of the Ass party.

      1. Twelve percent of Bernie´s primary voters voted for Trump in the general election. That is one in eight. Remaining in the contest until the convention cannot but have hurt Hillary. Bernie should have conceded once the primaries concluded.

    1. One more pimp.

    2. Write it all down in a tear-stained letter.

  2. If we’re going to criticize Sanders for any of his past statements, we should focus on his earlier opposition to open borders. That comment — combined with the fact that he’s a straight white cis-male — prevents him from joining my top tier of Democratic candidates.

    Of course, I will support Sanders in November if he gets the nomination. Because Drumpf is literally the worst President ever.

    #VoteBlueNoMatterWho

    1. God damn it. You gave idiot liberal protestors a new chant. I hate you now.

    2. He’s an old man with a history of heart trouble. What if Tulsi is his VP nom? A vote for Sanders is a vote for the Russian asset!

      1. you mis-spelled ass.

        As in ‘dat ass’

  3. I just want to know if Bernie or someone who works for him ever used the word “imminent” at anytime. These are the important issues.

    1. You can bet they will. Climate change will be the new “imminent” threat or #NationalSecurity issue that doesn’t require Congressional approval.

      That’s the problem with expanding Presidential powers over health care, tariffs, or to make new wars. When the other side gets in charge they think their ideas of what needs to be done should be rammed through the same way.

      1. The lack of discernment in your thinking is truly impressive.
        Shallow dogma makes for the best analysis

        1. Better than ad hominem?

        2. Also, I can’t imagine where I might have gotten the ideas that:
          1) the role of the President in this country has been happening for at least the last 3 administrations
          2) the Democrats will seize an opportunity to push their agenda through whatever means necessary

          Which of those claims do you deny?

          1. 1) expansion of the role of the President has been happening….

  4. Grandpa Gulag is all those things but the one the reigns above all is that he’s a fricken COMMIE.

  5. Let’s not forget that Sanders isn’t just a socialist, a heart-attack survivor, and an accused electoral misogynist, he’s also an angry, bitter, hate-filled, profoundly ignorant old man who has never done a lick of work in his whole life and yet feels entitled to tell everybody else how the entire world should work. It’s almost impossible to find that sort of combination of arrogance, stupidity, self-righteous smugness and gob-smacking lack of self-awareness this side of Hollywood.

    1. Oops, should have said “It’s almost impossible to find that sort of combination of arrogance, stupidity, self-righteous smugness and gob-smacking lack of self-awareness this side of Hollywood…..or Stockholm.” Has anybody actually checked to see who Greta Thunberg’s grandfather is? Because I have a suspicion.

      1. It was widely reported yesterday that her father has written all of her Facebook and other social media posts. As expected, she is a victim of child abuse and manipulation. Poor creature!

        Greta’s Father – how dare you!

    2. In other words, he’s a typical socialist politician.

    3. >It’s almost impossible to find that sort of combination of arrogance, stupidity, self-righteous smugness and gob-smacking lack of self-awareness this side of Hollywood.

      You should check out Reddit then…

  6. Short of Trump being caught with a young girl or a dead boy, is there any circumstances where Bernie wins the general? He appeals to college students who want free shit and a certain kind of gentry left white person. That is it. Bernie has zero appeal to Hispanics or blacks or the white working class beyond being a Democrat.

    That being said, as weak as Bernie is, how weak must the other Democrats be for him to be such a threat to win the nomination?

    1. Short of Trump being caught with a young girl or a dead boy, is there any circumstances where Bernie wins the general?

      It seems the question should answer itself, but the fact that you’re forced to think about it is troubling, worrisome, and scary.

      That Bernie Sanders is a US Senator and a serious contender for a major party candidate for President rather than, at the least, locked in a set of stocks in the town square being pelted with rotten fruits and vegetables is a thought almost too depressing to think about.

      1. It really is. I don’t know what is wrong with people.

    2. “Short of Trump being caught with a young girl or a dead boy, is there any circumstances where Bernie wins the general?”

      If this situation in Virginia with their legislature ramming through fairly Draconian gun control bills, turns into something really nasty, and Trump goes full on ‘restore public order by any means necessary’, I can see enough conservatives saying fuck it, and staying home. I think that’s incredibly unlikely, but gun control is a wedge issue where I suspect Trump’s opinions and feelings don’t mirror his base’s.

      That said, they nominate Sanders, and a McGovern level ass kicking isn’t unlikely.

      1. Oh, and what Jerryskids said.

      2. I can’t see Trump ever endorsing gun confiscation. That would be political suicide. And there is no way he doesn’t know that.

        1. “Take the guns first, go through due process second.” See, https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second

          Was 2018 that long ago? If last year Satan hadn’t run out of 18-24 year old white incels willing to shoot up a Walmart or a Garlic Festival, we’d have a new federal assault weapon ban now.

          Trump isn’t a gun guy, and isn’t a constitutionalist. If he feels that ugly black rifles are causing enough bad press, he’s going to find some way to get rid of them. Like he did with bumpstocks. And thanks to him strong-arming BATFE on the bumpstock thing, he arguably might not have to go to Congress to do it.

          1. Comparing present Trump to prior Trump statements is a lunatic proposition.

            1. I’m not the guy trying to claim Trump won’t ever endorse gun confiscation. He has already.

              The situation in Virginia is deliberately being inflamed by the Governor and legislative leaders for some reason. The proposed bills are grossly in excess of prior restrictions, even in other states. When confronted by evidence that a sizable plurality of Virginians find these proposed restrictions unacceptable—something like 95 out of 110 Virginia counties have passed ‘firearms sanctuary proposals’, a la illegal immigration sanctuary proclamations—the Governor and Lege have doubled down with more Bill’s. Bills reiterating that police must enforce the law, that concealed carry will no longer be allowed within Capitol grounds, that there will be no grandfathering of allowed items subject to the ban.

              Take a look, and see if you think I’m right that this whole thing might get stupid if the bills are passed, and become law this July. Anywhere from 15 to 70,000 people are planning on marching to Richmond the 20th of January, for what’s usually known as Lobby Day.

              If it does get stupid, it might blowback on Trump.

              1. I can say from reading gun forums that people who supported Trump 4 years ago are less inclined to do so now. He had a lot of 2A support before, that has waned significantly with his bumpstock ban and his lack of action in advancing gun rights or at least helping defend them at the state level. Those people won’t vote blue, but they might decide not to vote at all.

                The upshot for libertarians is that more gun owners may realize that Republicans aren’t their allies and the only people in this country who consistently and unequivocally advocate for gun rights are libertarians.

                1. In comparison to any of the Donkeys Trump is GI Joe. So the gun guys might stay home, but the fear of oppression by the nutjobs will motivate plenty.

                  1. It might not be pro-Trump votes that Trump receives. It might be anti-socialist votes.

        2. He doesn’t have to endorse it, just do nothing about it. His record on gun control doesn’t give me a lot of faith he’s going to bat for Virginians.

    3. Bernie benefits from the big field as much as anyone. He wont do much better than the 20-30 percent of absolutely insane communists who occupy the democratic party, but thats all he needs, and those people will be with him until the end. Also helps that two lily white states get the party started.

      1. If the the party doesn’t rally around a single “anyone but Bernie” candidate, 30% could be enough to win him the nomination.

    4. John, I think the original expression involved a dead girl or a live boy.

      1. Why not both? He’s a commie, after all.

    5. I think that Bernie Sanders has the best shot at beating Trump in the general.

      Now here’s my disclaimer which is longer than the message… thanks modern internet…

      This is not to say that Bernie is “better” than Trump or that I want Bernie to win. This is my sober assessment of the current field of Democrats. No single so-called ‘mainstream’ democrat holds enough sway over the party as a whole, which leaves Sanders who still holds a fairly passionate base with, as you say, mainly college students who realized their $100,000 French Literature degree isn’t going to pay for itself. So by ‘best shot’ what I mean is, he’s the only candidate that seems to hold a passionate and consistent constituency. Right after him I would say Tulsi has the best shot– but only if she could magically win the primary. Tulsi has crossover appeal, is the most sane candidate, she has experience, but unfortunately she– like Bernie, lacks party and donor support- because she’s the most sane candidate.

  7. Hillary would be President if she’d thrown Sanders voters a bone or two (as opposed to the beach house and private jet rides she used to buy off Sanders himself), inducing them to put down their bongs and go to the polls. Or not vote for the Green Party while they were there. The election was that close.

    None of which means the party should let the Marxist anywhere near the candidacy, but maybe offer him the VP seat or, HHS Secretary.

    Hilarious that, in the woke era the best the Democratic Party can do for candidates are a pair of professional politician white guys, and a harpy whose greatest claims to fame are her fraudulent manipulation of affirmative action, and her plan to bankrupt America with medical spending.

    Bravo.

    1. whose greatest claims to fame are her fraudulent manipulation of affirmative action, and her plan to bankrupt America with medical spending.

      Maybe it’s just me, but I’m a lot more concerned about the financial regulation law she pushed than whether or not she’s a real Indian.

  8. “electoral misogyny” – band name?

  9. +100 for the creative headline referencing a graphic but hilarious joke.

    1. Amazed it took 2 hours before someone picked up on that.

  10. who says the self-described socialist told her privately in 2018 that a “woman couldn’t win” the presidency.

    Accusing the American people of misogyny apparently now itself counts as misogyny… for progressive leftists like Gillespie.

    1. She’s also claimed that she’s a Cherokee warrior, was fired for being pregnant, and that her kids went to public school. If Warren claims she was told something privately, it’s a lie.

      1. Gillespie’s interpretation of the statement reflects a dumb, leftist belief system on his part regardless of whether the statement is factual or hypothetical.

  11. I’m not in any way, shape, or form a Bernie Bro, but it really is pathetic that this cunt Warren has to resort to bullshit like this. I don’t believe for one second that Sanders said that to her, or anything like it.

    She’s an older, more dried-up version of Elizabeth Nolan Brown: pure unadulterated scum.

    1. She at least knows who the party is. Believe all victims and whatnot. She knows a vicious lie might be enough to sink Bernie and she’s not above trying it.

      It is a little gratifying to watch the nonsense identity politics the left created used to eat their own though. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

      1. Bunghole Bernie in the barrel; hopefully it will at least be entertaining as they all try to take him down.

        Seriously, if Biden ain’t it, there ain’t no way they will pull this off. Even then it will be very close.

  12. Warren (D–Mass.), who says the self-described socialist told her privately in 2018 that a “woman couldn’t win” the presidency.

    He probably also told her privately that she has “great gams”.

  13. Who can believe any polls when one has pinko Sanders beating Trump by 3% in the general election and another poll finds that Trump may get 30% of the black vote?

    1. Which poll has Trump getting 30% of the vote? The one on Breitbart filled out by White people who say they’re Black?

      1. Emerson at 35% support, Rasmussen at 34%, and CNN at 26%. Of course there is a difference between approval and I’m going to vote for you.

        https://www.newsday.com/opinion/commentary/black-voters-donald-trump-support-1.39184208

  14. It’s a last ditch effort by Warren to try and gain some steam before Iowa. I’m not sure how much Biden will go after Bernie, but Warren and Pete will. Warren and Pete need to build up steam before the primaries. Biden may try, but it’ll be some dementia laden rant.

    1. “…it’ll be some dementia laden rant”

      That or some creepy hair sniffing.

  15. It speaks volumes that Bernie Sanders, a socialist who has never held a job or worked a day in his life, might become the Democrat nominee. The Democrats learned NOTHING by the loss to Trump in 2016. If it’s Trump v. Sanders then Trump wins both the electoral vote (all that matters) and the popular vote. The Left is nothing if not insane …..

    1. Obama never had a real job either.

  16. Good grief, people. I dislike Sanders for his socialism and senility. But when he said “a woman can’t win the presidency”, he was most likely making a statement about what he thought was the sexism of the average American voter, not about the capability of women in general. That is, he holds American voters in as much disdain as Warren does, but Warren obviously can’t run on “I can’t win as a woman”.

    But don’t worry, when Warren loses, she’ll blame the misogyny of the American voter just like Sanders does.

    1. And make no mistake: Sanders and Warren agree with each other that everybody who doesn’t vote for them is a racist and worse than a Nazi.

      1. But IF when he said

        FTFY. Warren’s not known for honesty.

      2. Members of Warrens campaign stated she was know to exaggerate stories when asked about Bernie’s supposed comment

  17. Like “white women” didn’t vote for Clinton because they were doing what their [deplorable] husbands told them to do.

  18. who says the self-described socialist told her privately in 2018 that a “woman couldn’t win” the presidency.

    It’s possible, if not probable he said that, but in defense of Bernie, that doesn’t make him a misogynist.

    Perhaps he was reading the electoral tea leaves and believed (either rightly or wrongly) that Americans won’t vote for a woman. One can believe that a woman can’t win the presidency because you’re merely pointing out perceived sexism among the voting public.

    However, Bernie appears to deny he ever said it so…

    That evening in 2018, Sanders expressed frustration at what he saw as a growing focus among Democrats on identity politics,

    Aaaand as ENB pointed out a few weeks (months back) apparently “hard science”* shows that harping on identity politics is a clear winner for the Democratic party.

    *If you consider political science a hard science, that is.

  19. The U.S. election reminds me of Britain, as Bernie = Corbyn (with much more power). The BDS’s, or Brexit derangement syndrome screamers (most of the U.S. mainstream media Bloomberg as #1 and Reason as #2) insisted, every day, every week, every hour, every second that a new vote would secure “Remain”. A vote to leave would be pure racism and Britain would be run by a bunch of NAZI’s. Shit Reason endorsed Corbyn as moderate.

    Lets get 2020 done.

    1. Disagree. Corbyn is steeped in identity politics, where Sanders seems to avoid it. They’re really not alike at all.

      1. They’re both open Marxists who require a violent revolution to “undue” and “re-educate” capitalism/ists.

        1. oops..undo

    2. Let’s try not to emulate them and vote for some bullshit liar. Fingers crossed.

      1. First there would need to be some candidate who isn’t a bullshit liar. I’m not seeing any.

        1. I get it… all politicians lie so you’re going to vote for the one who is the most full of crap. It’s funny watching you bemoan the state of democracy while not realizing that you and others are exactly who is at fault.

          1. No, you don’t get it.

            1. Tell me more about how Dear Leader is the perfect truth-teller.

    3. Better yet, let’s stop having elections at all. I’m not convinced it does anything good for anyone to keep this bullshit up. Surely we have enough laws by now. What the fuck do we need a full time legislature or a president for?
      Make congress like jury duty, have them convene for a month every few years to do a budget and that’s it. Couldn’t be any worse than what we have now.

      1. With the Diane Reynolds Doctrine, you hold an election and anyone who shows up to run is arrested on the spot.

          1. Not enough woodchippers IMO, but we can’t let perfection be the enemy of greatness.

  20. I’m with you guys. I can’t even begin to explain how Trump is losing to an avowed socialist and apologist for the Soviet Union. Don’t these sheeple know that Bernie Sanders is going to turn the United States into Venezuela with all his Social Security and Medicare and free public schooling?

    Poll Date Sanders (D) Trump (R) Spread
    RCP Average 12/4 – 1/11 48.0 45.0 Sanders +3.0

    Jesus Christ! These are disturbing times when Dear Leader is losing to a modern day pig iron smelting Mao Zedong!

  21. The thing is Senator Sanders and President Trump share a lot and it would be difficult to predict how that affects the race. Trump divides the country by race, telling people that the foreigner are the source of their problems. Sanders divided by income, telling people the rich are the source of their problems. Is M4A any bigger lie than a wall that Mexico will pay for? Trump and Sanders each get away with a lot and their supporter never quit them. Each election cycle people bemoan the fact that they are voting for the lesser of two evils. A Sanders-Trump race would really push voting for the lesser evil to a new level.

    1. Is M4A any bigger lie than a wall that Mexico will pay for?

      Yes. It’s several orders of magnitude more expensive than the biggest, most beautiful wall you can imagine.

      A Sanders-Trump race would really push voting for the lesser evil to a new level.

      I disagree. It doesn’t beat Trump vs. Clinton. Now if we could get Maxine Waters vs. Lindsay Graham . . .

      1. What you are missing about M4A and a Mexican financed wall is that both are fertilizer. It doesn’t matter what each costs. M4A will not happen and Mexico will not pay for a wall. Sanders and Trump supporters eat these promises up and really don’t care that what is promised will not happen. In this sense their supporter are very similar.

        1. What you are missing about M4A and a Mexican financed wall is that both are fertilizer. It doesn’t matter what each costs.

          Your first statement is true, and your second is false. That’s because “M4A will not happen and Mexico will not pay for a wall” are not parallel statements.

          Wall Reality: “We are building a wall as we speak, but Mexico is not going to pay for it.”

          M4A Reality: “We’re not going to have M4A, but we’re going to blow the bottom out of the budget trying and destroying what’s left of the American medical industry while we do it.”

          Similar, but the order of magnitude of the spending-for-no-reason matters.

          1. We are never going to get M4A as it is a non starter. It will not break the budget because it will never get started. It will take more that Sanders getting elected to ever get M4A going. Even the idea of a M4A for those that want it is a heavy lift. Remember that could not pass when the Democrats controlled two houses and the Presidency. Please don’t worry about M4A and the budget its not worth you time.

            1. While there’s truth in what you say, “don’t worry, he’ll totally fail to accomplish his goals” is not, to me, a resounding endorsement, and sort of reinforces my initial response that M4A is the bigger lie.

              If there’s some wave of anti-Republican sentiment that brings Sanders into the White House with majorities in both chambers of Congress, I wouldn’t count on M4A remaining purely hypothetical, especially now that ObamaCare has tacitly been called a failure while all the Dems are still campaigning on healthcare reform.

              Particularly when part of the plan is eliminating private health insurance (I like my Kaiser plan), that becomes to big for me to risk counting on him not really being serious.

    2. “Trump divides the country by race, telling people that the foreigner are the source of their problems. ”

      Stop lying.

  22. Bernie should wear a dress for today’s debate, plus he should be in redface.

  23. Bernie is going to turn the country into s socialist hellhole like Venezuela by expanding access to the most popular program in United States history and by raising the marginal tax rate on the 0.01% from where it is today to where it was in the dark days of the 1950s when the US was a commie cesspool where everyone ate rats and dug turnips out of the ground just to survive. Do people even understand American history? God!

    1. Bernie is going to turn the country into socialist hellhole like Venezuela by expanding access to the most popular underfunded program in United States history

      That one little word makes a huge different to the validity of your sarcasm.

      and by raising the marginal tax rate on the 0.01% from where it is today to where it was in the dark days of the 1950s

      No – that’s what Warren has claimed will cover M4A, the Green New Deal, Free College For All, and a nation-wide infrastructure renewal blitz.

      Sanders has admitted that his plan for M4A involves significant tax increases for the middle class.

    2. Yeah, Bernie’s no Commie! He just wants to enslave the underclasses through crippling taxation, put the government in charge of every aspect of our lives, make totalitarian Marxist pillars about inheritance confiscation into law (that isn’t applicable to he or his embezzling wife) and throw people in da gulags for owning too many deodorants!

      There’s no way he’ll ever turn us into that failed Latin American socialist dictatorship he’s always praising.

      1. Bernie’s agenda is pretty much a dead letter with Congress.

        1. You’re speaking like its still the pre-Obama era presidency where constitutional limits exist. If we’ve learned anything from Trump its just how far a president can go off the rails and still do as he pleases.

  24. They better be nice, or else Bernout will tell his psychopathic cultists to assault and shoot at them and then claim they were “incited” to violence by hearing things they didn’t agree with.

  25. The Democrats better hope Bernie doesn’t win the primary. I’d consider voting for Trump over that idiot and Trump is less than dog shit.

  26. it’s hard to know what would be worse, 4 more years of Trump or 4 years of Bernie.

    With Bernie It will come down to the congress, a divided or opposition congress and a non antagonist foreign policy might be the best we can hope for.

  27. You “forgot” to mention that Bernie is a dyed in the wool communist who wants to build gulags across America, for “reeducation” of the populace.

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