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Devin Nunes Sues CNN for Reporting Claims He Helped Meddle in Ukraine

"CNN is the mother of fake news," reads the introduction to Nunes' new lawsuit.

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Rep. Devin Nunes (R–Calif.) is making a name for himself as the most litigious doofus in Congress. His ranty lawsuits reveal a dangerous disrespect for the First Amendment and a willingness to censor legitimate criticism to advance his political goals.

In addition to pursuing lawsuits against Twitter, GOP strategist Liz Mair, the Twitter accounts @DevinNunesMom and @DevinCow, and reporter Ryan Lizza, Nunes is now suing CNN for alleged libel and slander. His suit, filed December 3 in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, calls a recent CNN story about him a "demonstrably false hit piece" and seeks $435,350,000 in damages.

This latest suit stems from a CNN story suggesting Nunes played a role in attempts, directed by President Donald Trump and his lawyer Rudy Giuliani, to convince Ukrainian authorities to investigate a business connected to 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and Biden's son Hunter. That request is now at the center of the current House impeachment inquiry into Trump. Nunes is the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, which has been overseeing the inquiry.

On November 23, CNN reported that Nunes may have had secret meetings in Vienna last year to discuss the Bidens with Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin. "Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December," lawyer Joseph A. Bondy told CNN.

Bondy represents Lev Parnas, the "Giuliani associate," who was indicted in October for alleged violations of campaign finance law. Parnas has pleaded not guilty.

Bondy told CNN that his client is willing to testify under oath that Nunes "had told Shokin of the urgent need to launch investigations into Burisma, Joe and Hunter Biden, and any purported Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election."

This would mean Nunes is now involved in investigating activity he had a hand in himself. Nunes, however, denies all of Bondy's allegations. But he's suing not Bondy or Parnas for making these allegations; he's suing CNN for reporting on them.

Here's how the introduction to Nunes' lawsuit against CNN opens:

CNN is the mother of fake news. It is the least trusted name. CNN is eroding the fabric of America, proselytizing, sowing distrust and disharmony. It must be held accountable.

That's a good indication of the tenor and substance of Nunes' entire lawsuit, which tries to make up for its lack of legal substance with bombastic culture-war rhetoric and partisan mudslinging.

The meat of Nunes' claim is the he never went to Vienna during the time period in question and has never met or talked to Shokin. But in order to turn this into a libel suit against CNN, he has to do more than simply show that such claims are false; Nunes must also prove that CNN acted with recklessness and intent to spread false claims as fact.

Parnas' claims about Nunes may well turn out to be falsehoods. But showing that CNN deliberately disseminated them in a malicious and intentionally misleading manner is another story. Look at the article's very title, to start with: "Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met with ex-Ukrainian official to get dirt on Biden." The story is presented from the start as Shokin's version of events, not something CNN has dug up and deeply reported on its own.

The article opens by stating that "a lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani told CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden."

That doesn't match up with Nunes' claim that CNN failed to present allegations against him as uncorroborated statements, or that the news outlet failed to offer relevant details about Parnas (like his pending criminal prosecution) that could cast doubt on the truthfulness of his claims.

Nunes accuses CNN of having "intentionally falsified" facts and claims "it was obvious  to everyone—including disgraceful CNN—that Parnas was a fraudster and a hustler." But the CNN story draws from on-the-record statements by a respected lawyer whose Trump-adjacent client is willing to testify, under oath, before Congress.

CNN's decision to cover this story and its presentation of the information—if a little sensationalist—were both within normal journalistic bounds. It is important to protect those boundaries from people like Nunes. If he gets anywhere in this lawsuit, media outlets and independent writers could face libel lawsuits whenever they report not just on claims that turn out to be wrong, but any claim that the outlet can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. The implications of so watering down the standards for libel are vast and alarming.

Essentially, Nunes wants to hold individual news outlets and reporters to the same impossible standards he's sought to impose on social media companies like Twitter. He wants there to be financial consequences for anyone relaying unverified messages by third parties—even if they are labeled as unverified messages by third parties—absent proof that this was done with malicious intent. Tasking publishers and platforms with determining the veracity of all the claims they transmit would more or less give political figures sole authority to spread information about themselves.

There may indeed be "obvious reasons" to doubt Parnas' testimony about Nunes, but that doesn't make Parnas offering it any less newsworthy, nor does it mean that his claims are, in fact, untrue. Plenty of criminals have been known to tell true tales on associates when their own asses are on the line. Moreover, Parnas might not even be a criminal; right now, he's merely been charged.

Nunes' lawsuit against CNN should dispel illusions that he's taking on Twitter as some sort of populist truth teller and warrior against anti-conservative bias in social media. Nunes is just a run-of-the-mill censor, unwilling to counter what he considers bad speech with more speech. He appears to want to crush anyone who dares discuss him in a manner he doesn't like.

Nunes' previous suit, in which he accused Mair of libeling him, claims Twitter is guilty of negligence for allowing Mair's comments to exist.

Section 230 of federal communications law prevents such a claim against Twitter, "whether the claim is brought as a defamation claim or as a negligence claim," notes Eugene Volokh. "Service providers don't have a duty 'to reasonably monitor and police the platform.'"

Volokh also points out that "Nunes argues that Twitter is discriminating in various ways against conservative speakers; but that is irrelevant to a § 230 defense. The statute was passed precisely to make clear that online service providers are immune from liability for others' speech even when they make editing choices about which speech to allow."

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  1. OK, so blatant lies are now ‘legitimate criticism’?

    1. Nunes is lucky he’s such a slimy piece of shit. He can use it to lube up when he let’s Trump fuck him in the ass.

      1. More gay sex obsession from the libs.

    2. Reason is fine with lies and defamation as long as Trump is the target.

      That climate “science” guy is fully protected by the propagandists as far as reason is concerned.

    3. Well, if you go by the First Amendment, then allot is Free Speech, regardless if it’s true or not.

      Speaking of the First Amendment it protects from Government Intervention of Speech, Expression, and the Press, Nunes IS an Elected Official, so an argument can be made that him using State Powers against anyone for Saying something about him is a violation of the First Amendment

      1. The Constitution protects most speech, with some exceptions, from criminal prosecution. It does not protect you from civil suits.

      2. There is nothing in the Constitution- absolutely nothing- that insists you should be free from civil liability for making objectively false claims.

        Moreover, as this sad article illustrates, giving media companies a license to print objectively false claims has created a scenario where we actually have people who don’t care that you made false claims- the false claims are OK as long as they are false but acceptably so.

        Sullivan is as big a debacle as Roe/Casey. Inane bullshit that dumb men thought would be limited to the inanities they specifically address. If only…

    4. Ok – so if I sent an email to CNN saying that I saw Joe Biden having sex with a sheep last year, would they report it? If they actually did, would they be libel?

      1. They’re not as crazy as you!

  2. How in the exact fuck does filing a defamation lawsuit have literally anything at all to do with the first amendment? Anyone is entitled to legal redress, and the first amendment doesn’t protect defamation.

    Stick to writing about things you actually know about, like getting fucked in exchanged for money.

    1. I lol’d at that last sentence.

    2. ENB is making a name for herself as the most air headed doofus at Reason.

      She’s giving Shikha a run for the money, anyway.

      1. Billy Binion would like a word…once he learns to speak coherent sentences

      2. She wont even make sandwiches for reason donations.

        She must nit know how to make a good sandwich.

        Bitches usually dont.

        1. I would fix my “nit” glitch but realize the reason website is shitting itself again. The reply icons are replaced by little boxes at this time which indicates shitty website management like last year.

          No donations from me…again.

    3. “Anyone is entitled to legal redress, and the first amendment doesn’t protect defamation.”

      https://www.popehat.com/2016/06/11/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-the-first-amendment/

      See this part:
      “If you said something like “the First Amendment only stops the government from censoring you so it doesn’t apply to this civil case, which is one individual suing another.”

      Welcome back! You’re still wrong. The First Amendment limits your ability to sue people.”


  3. The meat of Nunes’ claim is the he never went to Vienna during the time period in question and has never met or talked to Shokin. But in order to turn this into a libel suit against CNN, he has to do more than simply show that such claims are false; Nunes must also prove that CNN acted with recklessness and intent to spread false claims as fact.

    Well, a normal human being might notice that CNN published false information which means they wanted to spread that information. As to recklessness, well, did they actually verify their information? If they did, it seems absurd that they would have published it.

    This special consideration for outlets having a lower burden than private individuals is already a pretty big giveaway for guys like Hurst, sorry I mean Koch, sorry I mean Soros, sorry I mean any fuck that owns an outlet to say pretty much anything they want without fear of being sued for libel.

    Now, I’m well aware there are some good reasons for that but the question remains if those reasons outweigh the clear end result of CNN publishing provably false information on their front page and retracting it a week later in a footnote on page 150.

    No offense, but this is literally one of the reasons why people consistently rate news outlets as less favorable than Donald Trump. They were given rather a lot of rope, and they tied it securely around their own necks.

    1. Oh, and none of this even begins to tackle the fact that CNN’s political bend couldn’t be more left-wing or Democrat, and that the person they published this about just so happened to be a ranking Republican.

      One might ask how often they publish provably false information about Democrats. I’d love to see a comparison of that, and hope it comes out in trial if it ever makes it that far (it won’t).

    2. I haven’t kept up with this story. Did CNN actually retract this?

      1. No idea, I use that as an example since retractions are pretty much always printed in places where no one will read them.

        Maybe if the law made them print their retractions on their front page (or home page) for a week or two they’d have incentive to stop making shit up or basing things on 4th hand speculation.

        1. My preference is to have the retraction/admission they lied take up the same amount of space in the same location as the offending article.

    3. ” As to recklessness, well, did they actually verify their information?”

      That’s not the legal standard for something being defamatory when the plaintiff is a public figure. The legal standard is: did they know or strongly suspect that it was false?

    4. Right, this is HOW media outlets lie: They search out somebody who’s telling the lie they want told, and publicize them.

      I mean, I’m actually fairly comfortable with the idea that the 1st amendment should be generally fatal to libel law. But let’s be real: News outlets really do libel people, and this is how they do it. By picking and choosing which lies by other people they publish.

      1. It’s NOT a lie. You’ve been snookered AGAIN. Nunes is a psycho, and a certain loser, if CNN sues for slander,

        Educate yourself

        WASHINGTON EXAMINER Giuliani associate prepared to tell Congress Nunes tried to get dirt on Biden from former Ukraine official

        An associate of President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is reportedly willing to tell Congress that Republican Rep. Devin Nunes met with a former Ukrainian prosecutor in an effort to dig up dirt on 2020 Democrat Joe Biden.

        “Mr. Parnas learned from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin that Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December,” … Parnas put Nunes in contact with Ukrainians who could help him get dirt on Biden and other Democrats. …
        Nunes “had told Shokin of the urgent need to launch investigations into Burisma, Joe and Hunter Biden, and any purported Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election.”

        MORE

        1. More dirt on Nunes the wacko …

          <a href="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nunes-sues-cnn-over-demonstrably-false-ukraine-reportThe Examiner also reports that the photos came from … NUNES!

          Did pro-Trumpers believe the birth certificate released by OBAMA? (lol) Are double-standard and moral hypocrisy no longer shameful in today’s GOP?

  4. Stick to writing about things you actually know about, like getting fucked in exchanged for money.

    Speaking of defamation … it was a blowjob and the $300 payment wasn’t technically pre-arranged.

    1. I heard it was $300 worth of lunch meat so she could make sandwiches.

      1. Roast beef?

    2. you’re getting robbed.

  5. This latest suit stems from a CNN story

    The link says “After the story published, Nunes disputed CNN’s report, telling far-right website Breitbart that it was “demonstrably false.””

    Is ENB just lying? Did she do any research at all for this?

  6. “CNN is the mother of fake news,” reads the introduction to Nunes’ new lawsuit.

    He’s not ENTIRELY wrong here.

    1. I rate this fact as MOSTLY TRUE.

  7. Hey Elizabeth, check out the DC Examiner’s article on this. That’s what real journalism looks like. Is Nunes litigious and a doofus? Yeah, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong this time (a phrase about broken clocks still right sometimes coming to mind).

    He can prove that he wasn’t in Vienna, something which CNN should have easily been able to verify, considering he’s a member of Congress and thus pretty easy to track. And as the Examiner’s article pointed out, while CNN’s written article might have covered its ass, its TV segment most certainly did not.

    And BYODB is 100% correct, it’s bullshit that the media has its’ own special set of speech rules that puts it beyond everyone else. The Covington kids are a perfect example of this.

    1. The Covington Kids are another great example, probably better than the George Zimmerman case in some ways (certainly more sympathetic victims).

      You see it all the time though. The public vs. private person distinction was intended to help curb this kind of thing, and it’s obvious that distinction is failing these days when the outlet being sued is able to flip the switch from public to private according to their own whim. That is, without a doubt, not how it is intended to function and it’s disgusting courts let this fly.

      1. Oh, I will at the very least admit that Nunes is quite certainly a public person by any test you’d care to use so his case is probably not a great hill to die on.

        The overall point is still valid though, even while Nunes isn’t a great case to bring up my problems with libel cases in general.

        1. amen, brother. I would pay good money to see CNN or NBC go the same way as Gawker via lawsuit

          1. Meh, I’d rather just watch them suffer their slow death. Better to keep other journalist in check. A quick one two punch and no one remembers and life carries on.

          2. Btw: CNN is owned by ATT now. Really shocked they have not cleaned house yet.

            Losing this defamation lawsuit might light the flame under ATTs ass.

        2. Discovery may show that they were knowingly publishing false material. With the Covington kid it was a complete lack of journalism for the most part and then after it was revealed he was just being a cool dude they refused to retract and correct the stories for quite a while if at all.

          1. Didn’t the Covington kid lose his suit against them or was that just a part? I seem to recall a part of the suit against CNN and WP was thrown out since it was the native guys statements they published and they were opinion, like “I felt threatened”.

            1. IIRC Sandman’s initial complaint was tossed because the initial reporting wasn’t about him specifically (they just used his face as an example of smirking white supremacy) and the later reporting on him specifically wasn’t as bad.

              I believe the covington class (well, a number of them anyway) are back at it as the defamed group.

            2. After being dismissed, the judge partly reinstated three of the 30-some counts of defamation as meeting criteria to proceed and the case has moved to discovery.

              I think they may also be appealing the dismissed counts as well since the judge’s decision ruled on the merits instead of the facts or something like that. Viva Frei (youtube) has a good analysis of all of it.

  8. I find it amazing that Nunes is quick to throw out accusations but does not want to be accused himself. I cannot wait till the discovery phase and CNNs lawyers get to question Nunes under oath. They can start with all his phone records talking to Giuliana and the White House.

    1. “They can start with all his phone records talking to Giuliana and the White House.”

      That’d be relevant to CNN lying about him going to Vienna…how?

      Courts don’t just permit pointless fishing expeditions. You have to demonstrate SOME semblance of legitimacy to the case.

      1. Sadly, moderation exhibits the ignorance most liberals are growing up with. They think all these sideshow hearimgs regarding trump are how REAL court cases work.

      2. CNN did not say he went to Vienna, they said that a Giuliana associate reported he went to Vienna. The phone records would establish that he had a relationship with Giuliana and his associates and that the associates could be considered knowledgeable on Nunes involvement in the affair. This might include a Vienna meeting. Nunes was abroad at the time of the meeting and might have swung by. He has denied that, but he has not denied it under oath. Just saying.

        1. You said “they can start with ALL his phone records with Giuliani AND the white house.”

          No, they cant. They would need to have a clear and narrow need for those or a judge would deny the request. All nunes needs to do is provide any proof of his alibi, which he’s already done. He doesn’t need phone records to do that.

          1. I disagree. You could ask for the phone records to establish that Nunes knew Giuliani’s associates. Once this is established you could conclude he had a relationship with them and it was not unreasonable for the Giuliani’s associates to know of Nunes connection and so reasonable to report what they say about Nunes. Nunes has provided his own alibi and it has not yet be verified.

        2. “CNN did not say he went to Vienna, they said that a Giuliana associate reported he went to Vienna. ”

          So, CNN does not check any statement made by anybody? Doesn’t seem to bode well for them.

          “The phone records would establish that he had a relationship with Giuliana and his associates and that the associates could be considered knowledgeable on Nunes involvement in the affair.”

          Members of Congress aren’t that hard to keep track of. If I said Nancy Pelosi raped my child, would they run that statement on air? It is as factual as what they said about Nunes.

          “This might include a Vienna meeting. Nunes was abroad at the time of the meeting and might have swung by.”

          He has photographic proof to the contrary. He does not have to prove he was not there. CNN has to prove he was there since THEY made the claim.

          1. “CNN did not say he went to Vienna, they said that a Giuliana associate reported he went to Vienna. ”

            So, CNN does not check any statement made by anybody?

            HELLO? HELLO?
            THEY CHECKED THAT HE SAID IT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY REPORTED!

            YOU JUST LIED ABOUT THE WORDS YOU CITED!
            AND CNN ARE THE MORONS??

            Doesn’t seem to bode well for them.

            BETTER THA

            He has photographic proof to the contraryYOU DON’T CHECK STATEMENTS MADE BY YOUR TRIBE ,,, WHILE LYING ABOUT CNN? That does NOT bode well for you,
            NOW YOUR FUCJUP GETS WORSE!!

            CNN has to prove he was there since THEY made the claim.

            (snort) THEY CHECKED THAT HE SAID IT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY REPORTED!
            AND YOU CAN’T EVEN READ WHAT YOU QUOTED!!

  9. On November 23, CNN reported that Nunes may have had secret meetings in Vienna last year to discuss the Bidens with Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin.

    The word ‘may’ has the weight of collapsed star matter, I suspect.

    Oh, in Hunter Biden news, guess who didn’t who up in court today, because he ‘MAY’ not have wanted to disclose his financial dealings with Burisma?

      1. Apparently he’s claiming to be broke too…

        1. Doesn’t matter now, he didn’t show up to court so now she gets what she asked for automatically. I suspect he’d rather take it in the shorts for the child support than disclose his Burisma dealings.

          1. That seems to be the case. Of course, in a civil/family law litigation, financial information often has to be disclosed to the parties and the court. However, the information is usually kept confidential and used strictly for purposes of the litigation.

            Still, I don’t think that’s a risk Hunter Biden wanted to take. Not that it necessarily proves anything, but it has piqued my suspicion. I would not be surprised to eventually learn that Hunter’s financial ties to Burisma are far deeper than we know at the present moment.

        2. Coke and babies ain’t cheap.

          And he’s a moron.

          1. The apple don’t fall far from the tree.

    1. They only kept up with the “may” stuff in the written article. In the reported news on television they presented it as fact

    2. Well, I’m not sure why Hunter would be overly concerned about that since any financial information disclosed will apparently go under seal. *shrug*

      The judge in that case seems to be only concerned with the kid, or so he says, so I suspect he doesn’t want to get involved with any of the surrounding political interest in Biden’s finances.

      1. All it takes is one leak, and then I suspect Hunter is fucked for good, along with quid pro Joe.

        1. Yeah, Bill Cosby learned that lesson.

      1. That was a takedown of Diane Reynolds’ bullsjit.
        December.4.2019 at 4:10 pm

        And the goobers who swallowed it.

  10. CNN is the mother of fake news. It is the least trusted name.

    Regardless of the merits (or lack thereof) of Nunes’ lawsuit, this is just shockingly bad writing. I’d give it a failing grade in a middle-school paper. It should be dismissed for lack of effort alone.

    1. bragging about being a middle school teacher LOL

      1. I’m not a middle-school teacher. I’m a physician. I was saying I’d give it a failing grade even if I were a middle-school teacher.

        1. I was saying I’d give it a failing grade even if I were a middle-school teacher.

          What grade would you give this sentence?

          1. He has a certain combination of ineptitude and arrogance that leads me to believe he may be a real doctor.

          2. Unless you’re a hardass who doesn’t want to accept “I’d” into the vernacular, that statement is 100% grammatically correct.

            1. No comma after saying?

              1. There is no grammatical requirement or stylistic call for a comma in that position. There would be if I were writing in German, but that’s another matter entirely.

                1. “If I were” is antiquated. “Even” makes the statement nonsensical.

                2. It’s ok doc.

                  Medicals get two free passes. One is ethical so long as you don’t violate those rules.

                  The other is in writing and grammar. Don’t have time for that. You know about dragon errors.

                  chest pain

                  45 year old male with acute onset mid sternal….(midwestern) mid STERNAL…(myopia) types in mid sternal.

                  PERRLA.

                  No

                  Check

                  Check.

                  Thinks, we need CTA chest. Goes to radiology order page. Types in two paragraphs explaining clinical situation. Radiologist gets this tech typed in history: “Pain 786.50”

                  Radiologist on phone. You left your mike on. Three pages of nonsense. Delete.

                  Goes back to EMR now lost start again.

            2. CNN is the mother of fake news. It is the least trusted name.

              Now do this.

              1. HOW MANY BRAINWASHED PUPPETS SWALLOWED THE BULLSHIT ABOUT CNN’S NUINES REPORTING?

                **ALL OF THEM PROVEN FOOLS
                https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8038499

        2. Don’t let Sidd Finch try to drag you into defending your grammar or other irrelevancies. It’s a common Fifty-Center tactic when they’re trying to derail a thread and come up against a valid argument.

          1. Fifty-Center tactic

            A what?

            1. Haha. Little Jeffy doesn’t get it?!

    2. PROOFl Nonstopdrivel joins the LARGE pack of GOOBERS .,.. ALL SWALLOWING THE BULLSHITOF WHAT CNN REPORTED
      https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8038499

      Nunes puppets be as dumb as Octavio-Cortez’s puppets. More proof libertarians CORRECT for 50 years: Left – Right = Zero

  11. //Nunes must also prove that CNN acted with recklessness and intent to spread false claims as fact.//

    Because Jeff Zucker has never, ever pressured his network to push out indefensibly exaggerated bullshit in order to pass it off as fact.

    Nope. Never.

    1. GG….Question. What is to stop a wealthy person from just dragging a media organization into court, over and over and over again over false and defamatory reporting?

      I mean, someone with deep pockets could just use a legal team to bleed a media organization constantly, no?

      1. Question, Atlast: why have you AGAIN been suckered by right-wing LIES and HYSTERIA?

        https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8038499

  12. But he’s suing not Bondy or Parnas for making these allegations; he’s suing CNN for reporting on them.

    Sounds like cable news networks need a Section 230.

    1. NUNES IS BAT-SHIT CRAZY, WITH OVER TWO-DOZEN BRAINWASHED SUCKERS HERE … puppets dancing gaily on a string..

      CNN REPORTED WHAT GIULIANI’S ASSOCIATE WOULD RESTIFY ABOUT NUBNES IN VIENNAS. NOT THE BULLSHIT YOU SO EAGERLY SWALLOWED AND/OR SPREAD.

      HERE’S HOW THE ASSHOLES LIED ABOUT WHAT ENB REPORTED. THEY ALL CITE THE FIRST SENTENCE … IN ITALICS BELOW … BUT IGNORE THE DETAILS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING

      On November 23, CNN reported that Nunes may have had secret meetings in Vienna last year to discuss the Bidens with Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin. “Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December,” lawyer Joseph A. Bondy told CNN.

      Bondy represents Lev Parnas, the “Giuliani associate,” who was indicted in October for alleged violations of campaign finance law. Parnas has pleaded not guilty.

      Bondy told CNN that his client is willing to testify under oath that Nunes “had told Shokin of the urgent need to launch investigations into Burisma, Joe and Hunter Biden, and any purported Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election.”

      WIPE THE EGG OFF YOUR PUSS, GOBBERS.

      THIS LINKS to a summary of what CNN reported … with a linK to the actual report, PROVING that over two dozen crazed right-wingers here are either liars or suckers …. NO BETTER THAN ALEXANDRIA OLIVIO-CORTEZ AND HER OWN PUPPETS ON A STRING.

      Left – Right = Zero
      Libertarians and Independents are the ONLY non-psychos — in these days of Bellowing Blowhards, left AND right.

      God save America from BOTH of these scum

  13. //Nunes’ lawsuit against CNN should dispel illusions that he’s taking on Twitter as some sort of populist truth teller and warrior against anti-conservative bias in social media. Nunes is just a run-of-the-mill censor, unwilling to counter what he considers bad speech with more speech.//

    So, suing someone for defaming you is …. censorship? How exactly does that work?

    I get the sense Elizabeth Nolan Brown doesn’t quite understand the contours of defamation law.

    1. I get the sense Elizabeth Nolan Brown works on the side of the journalism industry that has a vested interest in keeping their liability for false reporting super low.

      1. I still don’t understand why, in the past few years, it has become so inordinately difficult for journalists to actually verify facts before publishing them. Isn’t that the point? If you can’t verify, don’t publish. Is that not Journalism 101?

        1. I think the Journalist’s motto is: If your mother tells you she loves you… assume she’s a Trump supporter and immediately assume she’s Putin’s Puppet.

          1. Diane. how many times can you get suckered on one page?
            Suckred on what ENB reported.
            Suckred on what CNN reported.

            Here’s the proof.
            https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8038558

            Will you apologize? Or .;. be shameless?

        2. I can tell you that the big reason is one of the pillars of journalism: timeliness.

          Publications want to be first to report a thing, and verification slows that down. Also, given that they’re financially failing across the board, the staff they might have once used for verification was fired a long time ago.

          There’s also the fact that virtually all journalism graduates want to ‘change the world’, so most writers today are scarcely different from their political advocacy brethren. It’s unclear if it was ever any different than it is today, but it seems the courts are viewing things a lot differently than they once did.

          1. Iowahawk on journliasts vis-a-vis the new Richard Jewel movie:

            leave current politics out of this. I’m sorry if the actual facts of the Richard Jewell case are at odds with the Hollywood trope of journalists as scruffy-but-saintly crusading truth-tellers, but this movie represents a long overdue reckoning.

          2. //Also, given that they’re financially failing across the board, the staff they might have once used for verification was fired a long time ago.//

            If that is the case, then the collective whining over the pushback they are receiving is rich, to say the least.

            1. If that is the case, then the collective whining over the pushback they are receiving is rich, to say the least.

              YOU are the whiny pussy …. YUGELY … rich to say the least. (lol)

              PROOF

        3. “I still don’t understand why, in the past few years, it has become so inordinately difficult for journalists to actually verify facts before publishing them. Isn’t that the point? If you can’t verify, don’t publish. Is that not Journalism 101?”

          It likely should make one ask “IF it is more difficult now then years ago” I have little reason to assume the press was more honest when it had more power.

        4. HOW M,ANY TIMES WILL YOU WHINE LIKE A PUSSY .. WITH TOTAL BULLSHIT

          I still don’t understand why, in the past few years, it has become so inordinately difficult for journalists to actually verify facts before publishing them. Isn’t that the point? If you can’t verify, don’t publish. Is that not Journalism 101?THIS is what ENB reported … PROOF you’re a brainwashed fool .,.. and self-righteous to boot.

          NEXT … PROOF you’ve also been suckerted on what CNN reported.

    2. I get the sense Elizabeth Nolan Brown doesn’t quite understand the contours of defamation law.

      You are a MASSIVEFUCKING LIAR on what she reported. You swallowed all the COCK SUCKERS who cited the first sentence (italics below) … and IGNORED THE FULL REPORTING

      On November 23, CNN reported that Nunes may have had secret meetings in Vienna last year to discuss the Bidens with Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin. “Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December,” lawyer Joseph A. Bondy told CNN.

      Bondy represents Lev Parnas, the “Giuliani associate,” who was indicted in October for alleged violations of campaign finance law. Parnas has pleaded not guilty.

      ****Bondy told CNN that his client is willing to testify under oath that Nunes “had told Shokin of the urgent need to launch investigations into Burisma, Joe and Hunter Biden, and any purported Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election.”

      SHAME ON YOU

      STILL CONFUSED? Biden MAY have does so … BECAUSE Lev Pamas will so restify. THAT IS GOOD JOURNALISM BY BOTH CNN AND ENB .. sneered at by hatred-spewing assholes.

  14. “A speaker who repeats another’s defamatory statement is not made immune from liability for defamation merely because another person previously made the same demeaning claim. See Flamm, 201 F.3d at 152 (“[T]he fact that a particular accusation originated with a different source does not automatically furnish a license for others to repeat or publish it without regard to its accuracy or defamatory character.”) (quoting Brian v. Richardson, 87 N.Y.2d 46, 54, 637 N.Y.S.2d 347, 660 N.E.2d 1126 (1995)); Cianci v. New Times Publ’g Co., 639 F.2d 54, 60–61 (2d Cir.1980)”

    If CNN published bullshit that it knew was bullshit, the fact that it was “merely reporting” the bullshit is completely irrelevant. That’s not censorship, that’s the law of defamation.

  15. Reason seems to have replaced their staff with writers from CNN and MSNBC. How are blatant lies a form of legitimate criticism?

    1. How do you know they are “blatant?” Do you have the complaint; would love to see it!

      1. It’s actually quite an interesting read.

        Judge for yourself:

        https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/nunes-cnn.pdf

        1. Thanks! God, screenshots of tweets in a complaint.

          My favorite line: “CNN also knew from prior reporting that Parnas was a “hustler”, and not in the “good way”.” Seems like a pretty solid complaint sans the damages $$$.

          1. Also, can we talk about how the attorney for Nunes has an eartlink email address? lol

            1. Frills and decorative curtains aside, I think this pleading survives dismissal. On a motion to dismiss, you have to assume that all of the facts alleged are true. If Nunes’ allegations are presumed to be true, I think there is a cognizable legal claim. Publishers can be held liable for publishing facts they know to be false, even if they obtained those facts from a third party.

          2. Exactly! The prose is so laughably amateurish that one could almost imagine the filing was intended as parody. When you’re billing at three hundred bucks an hour in six-minute increments, you shouldn’t be producing such semiliterate dreck.

            1. I loved how Parnas was not just a wolf in sheep’s clothing, but a radioactive wolf. A most entertaining read.

            2. Yeah, but Nunes is a flanming assholke.
              If CNN sues for slander … a slam dunk.

              Uhhh, or were YOU suckered by so blatant a crock of shit?
              https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8038558

        2. How many times can Geraje Guzba make a TOTAL fool of himself on one page? As a witless tool of the political elites?

          Geraje Guzba
          It’s actually quite an interesting read.
          Judge for yourself:I judge …. you as a FOOL ,… AGAIN … And PROVE IT … AGAIN

          https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8038558

          Your sourcing SUCKS … only what you WANT to believe
          As you former instructors weep in silent shame.

    2. Because they got the blatant lies from a third party. Apparently, so long as you ensure there is a degree of separation, you can repeat deliberately false statements of fact with impunity. Of course, that has never been the law, but I suppose for those “journalists” too lazy to actually take responsibility to ensure their reporting is accurate, some leeway is required.

      If you can’t publish bullshit, well …. what the hell are you supposed to publish?

    3. Michael Suede … add HIM to the LONG list of brainwashed puppets … LIED on both CNN and ENB …, and SO self-righteous!!

      https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8038558“>You’ve had a large pie … SMOOSHED into your puss!

  16. I’m curious how the lawyers calculated 435 million dollars in damages. The rest of his “public service” career monetized?

    Also, can we get a link to the complaint? If Nunes has indisputable proof that he was not where CNN “reported” regarding this topic, that seems important and I would love to see if the complaint has that information.

    1. Also, can we get a link to the complaint?

      You must be new here.

      1. I prefer to stick with a digested version in a tweet from a blue checkmark.

      2. Nope, not me!

    2. Nunes and Jordan are raging psychos. And Trumptard supporters are like robots, mentally programmed to yell “Fake News” (or the equivalent) when they’ve lost and have no actual defense.
      Like Trump does.

      1. “Nunes and Jordan are raging psychos” (definitely not a psycho way to start)

        “And Trumptard supporters are like robots, mentally programmed to yell “Fake News” (but definitely not ‘raging psychos’) when they’ve lost and have no actual defense.”

        “Like Trump does” (and only Trump)

        1. Agression!!! PROOF!!! RECURSIVE LINK!!!!

        2. “Like Trump does” (and only Trump)

          Umm.and like you, as proven by your blatant lie on what I said.

        3. TheTyrannyBalllicker is Mike Hihn.
          Don’t expect anything from him that isn’t all-caps insane. He only calls people psychos because he is looking for fellow travellers.

          1. FANCYLAD d … REVENGE STALKER FUCKS UP … AGAIN!
            FIVE TIMES ON THIS PAGE!!!!

            Don’t expect anything from him that isn’t all-caps insane

            DID PSYCHO RESPOND TO ALL CAPS?
            NOW LOOK TO MY TOP OF THIS THREAD … ALL CAPS?

            He only calls people psychos because he is looking for fellow travellers

            STRIKE THREE!!
            ****CAPS FOR SELF-DEFENSE … AND RIDICULE ….HAVING JUST PROVEN HIM INSANE …. AND PSYCHO!!!! … WITH DELUSIONS OF ALL CAPS.

            WITH BWAAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAA for added ridicule, ,…
            WHICH WILL LIKELY ATTRACT ANOTHER REVENGE ASSAULT FROM THE INFANTILE THUG
            (snort)

            1. “NOW LOOK TO MY TOP OF THIS THREAD”

              Another fuck up!

              “HAVING JUST PROVEN HIM INSANE”

              You proved nothing! That’s fuck up number two…in just this one post!

              (chortle)

              1. Bend over, as I jam the proof up your lying ass.
                https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8036093

                A PROVEN psycho, stalking me down the page

                1. You just threatened rape…

                  1. Bend over, as I jam the proof up your lying ass.
                    https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8036093
                    Nardz

                    You just threatened rape…

                    Do alt-right “think” anyone can be raped by a …. URL LINK??? (snort)
                    That is WHY they’re goobers! (which is being kind)

      2. Says the raging psycho.

          1. Proof!

            1. That you’re a raging psycho I mean.

              1. That you’re a raging psycho I mean.

                CLICK THE LINK
                TWENTY SECONDS TO SEE PROOF … IN 7 STEPS … WHO THE PSYCHO IS.

                A STALKING PSYCHO
                WILL IT SEEK MORE REVENGE … FOR BEING OUTED AGAIN?
                Probably. Because blowhard cyber-bully. PROVEN.
                (sigh)

                1. Like a pack of wild dogs?

            2. Proof!

              (snort)

              1. You might have a drug problem

                1. Yeah, but not like you think. There’s some drugs he’s supposed to take to keep him sane and he keeps skipping his doses.

    3. Check out the DC Examiner’s reporting of this, he’s produced pictures of him meeting with leaders in Libya and Malta during the time CNN is claiming he was in Vienna. Meaning it would have been easy as fuck to check and verify that he wasn’t in Vienna at the time.

      1. Umm, the Examiner also reports that the photos came from … NUNES! And *I* have a link to … the REAL TRUTH,

        https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nunes-sues-cnn-over-demonstrably-false-ukraine-report

        Meaning it is easy as fuck for you to also tell us the photos came from … the absolute least reliable source possible.

        The Examiner also reported, earlier

        “An associate of President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is reportedly willing to tell Congress that Republican Rep. Devin Nunes met with a former Ukrainian prosecutor in an effort to dig up dirt on 2020 Democrat Joe Biden”

        At least you’re not biased!!

        1. So, just to be clear, you’re saying Nunes or someone working for Nunes photoshopped some photos to fabricate an alibi?

          Bold claim, Cotton.

          1. NO, YOU FUCKED UP AGAIN, BYODB! PULLED MORE BULLSHIT OUT OF YOUR ASS (AROUND YOUR HEAD)
            .
            WHAT I SAID, PSYCHO TRUMPTARD

            , the Examiner also reports that the photos came from … NUNES! And *I* have a link to … the REAL TRUTH,

            IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE PHOTOS ARE … THEY CAME FROM NUNES! HELLO, HELLO. NO CREDIBILITY!!!

            THEY COULD BE A DIFFERENT DATE THAN HE CLAIMS. … THE MOST OBVIOUS … IF YOU HAD A BRAIN, INSTEAD KISS-ASS LOYALTY TO YOUR AUTHORITARIAN RIGHT,

            HOW MANY UNPROVOKED ASSAULTS CAN YOU MAKE A TOTAL PUBLIC ASS OF YOURSELF ON THIS PAGE??

            YOU MADE THE SAME CLASS OF FUCKUP — BUT MUCH BIGGER — HERE:
            https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8036520

            ***GET A LIFE, DUDE. THIS ONE IS S-O-O-O-0 EMPTY

            1. “IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE PHOTOS ARE”

              Says the cyberbully in a discussion about…The photos!

              Another fuck up! He’s leaving them up and down this page!

              1. Another fucking lie

                >>”“IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE PHOTOS ARE”>

                TRUTH:
                >>”IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE PHOTOS ARE … THEY CAME FROM NUNES! HELLO, HELLO. NO CREDIBILITY!!!”

                Says the cyberbully in a discussion about…The photos!

                SELF-DEFENSE … WHICH IS WHY YOU LIED ABOUT MY WORDS.

      2. It’s a 2 hour flight from Malta to Vienna. He could have swung by on the trip.

        1. Good play!

          1. Not!

  17. Why is the Reason sandwich editor trying to write legitimate stories?

  18. Nunes was always one of the worst of Trump’s Hate Squad, and a crazed conspiracy nut, tied with Jim Jordan. They are the type whose Chicken-:Little hysteria justifies (to them) all manner of lies and evil. For the Fatherland.

    1. And Adam Schiff is just waiting to drop his treasure trove of evidence that Trump is a Russian robot any day now ….

      1. Schiff is just as bad. Only low information goobers support either party these days, whose loyalists re down to less than 40%, combined.

        But … why was it, when Trump’s many bankruptcies made him shut off by every US bank, as one of America’s worst credit risks … his only lender was Deutsche Bank, a convicted money launder for Russia. And why do actual public records show Trump then bought over $400 million in real estate, NONE with any mortgages. Do you think it should be investigated that a Russian money launder lent Trump nearly a ha

        1. Cont’d

          Do you think it should be investigated, that a convicted Russian money launder, Deutsche Bank lent nearly a half billion dollars … totally unsecured … to one of America’s worst credit risks?

          1. I don’t give a fuck who lends money to whom.

            I’m a libertarian, not a slaver.

            1. Libertarians don’t ignore hard proof that a billionaire President’s entire fortune was financed by Russia,

              Though,it is possible that a libertarian MIGHT use the word “slave” so ignorantly (to the issue)

              1. If that is hard proof his fortune was financed by russia, then your comments on these this website are diamond hard proof you’re a self absorbed sociopath.

                You’re biggest problem is thinking any of us actually care about you or what you say. We think the way you act is pathetic, the same way your family and ex wives do. When people fecetesiously ask you to die on here, what you need to know is that if you actually did none of us would care and neither would anyone you know.

                1. When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. -Socrates

                  If that is hard proof his fortune was financed by russia, then your comments on these this website are diamond hard proof you’re a self absorbed sociopath.

                  All based on public records .,.. so, you’re either full of shit … or babbled about something you never read.

                  In addition to the INFANTILE name-calling.
                  AND the unprovoked aggression so common by Authoritarians both right or Left

                  But Trump will give you a cookie

                  (My tone and boldface in self-defense of aggression and a snarling hissy fit)

                  1. What did Socrates say about raging psycho goobers?

                    1. When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. -Socrates

                      “Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do.” –Benjamin Franklin

                      “Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools speak because they have to say something”Plato

                      “A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding. When it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people’s business-Eric Hoffer

                      “Mass movements do not need a god, but they do need a devil. Hatred unifies the True Believers.” -Eric Hoffer, “The True Believers” (1951)

                      “Throughout human history, the worst moral atrocities have been committed by those manipulated to BELIEVE they are defending some “greater good” — the Collective, the State, the Master Race, the Party or a God. Zealots and fanatics. The militant self-righteous.” -Mike Hihn(1994)

                      “Trump is the enabler of the alt-right that was empowered by Ron Paul” -Mike Hihn, 2018.

                    2. Raging psycho goober answers a question about raging psycho goober with a bunch of quotes that say nothing about….raging psycho goobers!

                      That’s his 23rd fuck up on this page!

                      And this post is self defense from an aggressive cyber bully!

                      (chortle)

                  2. I don’t care about your prior statement, that’s why I only pointed out that if you wanthink to use “hard proof” like that…then we’ve all got hard proof you’re a self absorbed sociopath who Noone cares about, not even your own family.

                    1. UP YOUR ASS, DIZZLE
                      Here’s DOCUMENTED PROOF you’re full of shit.
                      https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8038558

                      Like all cyberbullies, he will now screech, sneer and whine that ir’ss ME … click the link, see the proof with your own eyes. what CNN really reported … and how ENB really reported on that,

                      we’ve all got hard proof you’re a self absorbed sociopath

                      PROVE IT … LIKE I DO … PUNK

                      A sociopath. by definition, is totally lacking in conscience,
                      Click my link, for PROOF … He KNEW the proof, when he denied it … total lack of conscience … refuses accountability for the consequences of his own action … a mortal mooch … like a progtard

                      My tone, attitude and boldface REFLECT the nature of the repeated aggressions and lies by my stalking assailant.

                      “Mess with a bull, get the horns.”
                      And a (smirk).

                2. You’re biggest problem is thinking any of us actually care about you or what you say

                  YOUR BIGGEST SELF-DELUSION IS THAT ANYONE GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK (other than your fellow thugs)

                  I post facts, wish is ALL I care about.
                  YOUR function is to be as nasty as you can … with unprovoked assaults …. because you got HUMILIATED on actual issues
                  A COWARD … BY DEFINITION

                  ***HERE;S WHAT A NASTY, LOW-LIFE, PIECE OF SHIT YOU ARE

                  We think the way you act is pathetic, the same way your family and ex wives do.

                  You’re just PISSED because YOUR MOM ENJOYED SLURPING MY COCK SO MUCH

                  (That was RIDICULE … as big a lie as yours … but mine was self-defense … yours was SCUM, punk)

                  1. “You’re biggest problem is thinking any of us actually care about you or what you say

                    YOUR BIGGEST SELF-DELUSION IS THAT ANYONE GIVES A FLYING FUCK WHAT YOU THINK (other than your fellow thugs)”

                    I know you are but what am I?

                  2. Haha. You’re triggered, bitch.

                    1. Triggered means … WHINING … what you just did, sonny.
                      And Sir Chortles.

              2. “billionaire President’s entire fortune was financed by Russia”

                It’s Hillary’s “foundation” that has the billions, not her directly, she was never President, and only a significant portion of her wealth comes from Russian uranium, not the whole thing.

                1. MORE MASSIVE FUCKUPS BY A TYPICAL MIND-CONTROLLED TRUMPTARD/STALKER, SHMANCYLAD!!

                  1) WACKO SAYS TRUMP IS A FUCKING LIAR … CLAIMING TO BE A BILLIONAIRE. harrumph

                  It’s Hillary’s “foundation” that has the billions,

                  (sneer) 2) NET WORTH OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION IS $234 MILLION … PER THOSE LEFTWING COIMMIES AT ….. FORBES! (OMFG)
                  https://www.forbes.com/companies/bill-hillary-and-chelsea-clinton-foundation/#241e26857aa3

                  (In all fairness, left-wing goobers are just as eager to be brainwashed …. also docile pawns of a political elite)

                  (Boldface in self-defense of repeated unprovoked aggression, by a stalking cyber-bully … who also swallowed the Uranium One bullshit … so likely also swallowed Obama born in Kenya … and Trump’s “landslide victory” in the Electoral College .. and …. )

                  1. Lol good one Hihn! Hilarious even!

          2. I really cannot decipher what you are trying to say.

            1. Thanks for the heads up! I copy-pasted my comment into MS Word, which analyzed it as written to the reading level of a 10th grader.

              And, since you don’t know what an unsecured loan is … and read at a 9th grade level (or lower), I can’t dumb it down much lower.

              But again, thanks for the heads up.

              1. “I copy-pasted my comment into MS Word, which analyzed it as written to the reading level of a 10th grader.”

                That’s a really fucking weird thing to do.

                  1. Cowardly evasion

                1. That’s a really fucking weird thing to do.

                  Which is why I ridiculed him!

                  1. Whoosh!

                    1. And why I OBVIOUSLY ridiculed YOU also.
                      Now again. (smirk)

                    2. You don’t even realize what’s going on here goober.

                    3. You don’t even realize what’s going on here

                      .(smirk) From the top

                      1) Guzba admitted he was incapable to “decipher” a 9th grade reading level.

                      2) I ridiculed his lack of reading competence, A SUPPORTED ARGUMENT

                      3) You sad it was weird of me … To PROVE Guzba was semi-literate … IN SELF-DEFENSE.

                      4) So I riculled YOU, also a SUPPORTED ARGUMENT,

                      5) Which WHOOOOSHED OVER YOUR HEAD

                      6) So I riculed you AGAIN .. also supported,

                      7) You make ANOTHER infantile snark,

                      You don’t even realize what’s going on here

                      Ummm … the all-too-common pattern of a BELLOWING BLOWHARD … non-stop hissy fits … in self-righteous zeal … TOTALLY DEVOID OF ANY SUBSTANCE … against SUPPORTED ARGUMENTS

                      Like all Authoritarian mentalities, both left and right.
                      “I am manly, hear me ROAR!”

                      What’s going on is … repeated and snarky aggression … by a THUG … who does not realize how infantile you look ARE.

                      Show us more of your character and maturity?

                    4. “in self-righteous zeal”

                      The cyber bully is a cat calling the kettle black…another fuck up!

                      I said it was fucking weird that you copy pasta your post into a word document, and you thought I was calling someone else weird.

                      “Which is why I ridiculed him!”

                      Another fuck up! That’s the 74th time on this page!

                  2. LAME

                    1) Guzba admitted he was incapable to “decipher” a 9th grade reading level.

                    2) I ridiculed his lack of reading competence, A SUPPORTED ARGUMENT

                    3) You sad it was weird of me … To PROVE Guzba was semi-literate … IN SELF-DEFENSE.

                    4) So I riculled YOU, also a SUPPORTED ARGUMENT,

                    5) Which WHOOOOSHED OVER YOUR HEAD

                    6) So I riculed you AGAIN .. also supported,

                    7) You make ANOTHER infantile snark,

                    You don’t even realize what’s going on here

                    Ummm … the all-too-common pattern of a BELLOWING BLOWHARD … non-stop hissy fits … in self-righteous zeal … TOTALLY DEVOID OF ANY SUBSTANCE … against SUPPORTED ARGUMENTS

                    Like all Authoritarian mentalities, both left and right.
                    “I am manly, hear me ROAR!”

                    What’s going on is … repeated and snarky aggression … by a THUG … who does not realize how infantile you look ARE.

                    Show us more of your character and maturity?

                    1. Can you put this post of yours in a word document and tell me what level of education it is?

                    2. Only if you’re STUPID enough to say the reading level is beyond your comprehension, as claimed by Geraje Guzba, and supported by you ,.. and if I CHOOSE to AGAIN ridicule your lack of even junior high literacy … and …. why would you publicly repeat and reveal your lack of reading skills, seven times now?.

                      This time … do you REALLY admit … PUBLICLY … that you cannot understand THIS proof that you LIED, in the seven steps I listed, which are easily confirmed in the thread?

                      My turn. Do you giggle, when typing such childish nonsense?

              2. “Sugarcane grubs like sugar – obviously – but scientific studies have revealed that many species of grubs have started preferring the taste of artificial sugars. The number of grubs ravaging cane plantations in recent years has increased in number, prompting concerns that manufacturers of pesticides are conspiring with manufacturers of sweetener to lure these biological predators into cane plantations by lacing pesticides with artificial sweeteners. It is a win-win scenario for both market players, as pesticide manufactures profit from the sale of their product, while the artificial sugar industry destroys its largest competitors.”

                That was also easy to read, but it’s a complete load of horseshit that I made up. Get it?

                Thanks for playing, fuckstick.

                1. That was also easy to read, but it’s a complete load of horseshit that I made up. Get it?

                  I “get” that you totallyy changed to a new excuse, even more lame, when you were both called out and ridiculed. Which is Strike Two..

                  And …. ummmm …. Yours is written at a reading grade level of 18.8, which is college student in the first year of grad school.
                  Strike Three. You’re Out

                  1. I’m sitting here laughing my ass off at the image of you copying and pasting everyone’s comment into a word document.

                    1. This is definitely the funniest hihnfected thread I can remember.
                      Usually they’re just repetitive and boring

                    2. I’m sitting here laughing my ass off at the image of you copying and pasting everyone’s comment into a word document

                      ANOTHER FUCKUP!!!
                      RIDICULES ME … AGAIN … FOR DEFENDING MYSELF … WITH PROOF … AND SUPPORTED ARGUMENTS …. INSTEAD OF HIS SNARKY, CHILDISH CHORTLING … TOTALLY DEVOID OF SUBSTANCE.

                      WOULD HE RIDICULE … JEWS, FOR WHINING … ABOUT GAS OVENS?

                      A rape victim for …. whining to the cops?

                      Is he a bigger fool here?
                      or here? https://reason.com/2019/12/04/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-for-reporting-claims-he-helped-meddle-in-ukraine/#comment-8036346

                    3. This post is stupid. You should copy and paste it into a word document in self defense.

                    4. Same here = laughing my ass off at the image of you copying and pasting everyone’s comment into a word document.

                      S/he is harmless, Sir Chortles. Usually I just scroll down past the screeds. I look at Liberty’s comments sort of like a Rorschach test; it is the only way they are comprehensible.

                    5. Thoughtful readers … politically independents … skip all the whining … click the provided links … scan or read the proof … form independen judgements … AND sees who is posting facts, documented with sources … and who merely flings personal assaults … on a libertarian siure, where NON-AGGRESSION is the primary value … and AGGRESSION is the authoritarian value..

                      When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.
                      -Socrates

                      “Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do.”
                      –Benjamin Franklin

                      “Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools speak because they have to say something”
                      Plato

                      “A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding. When it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people’s business
                      -Eric Hoffer

                      “Mass movements do not need a god, but they do need a devil. Hatred unifies the True Believers.”
                      -Eric Hoffer, “The True Believers” (1951)

                      “Throughout human history, the worst moral atrocities have been committed by those manipulated to BELIEVE they are defending some “greater good” — the Collective, the State, the Master Race, the Party or a God. Zealots and fanatics. The militant self-righteous.”
                      -Me (1994)

                      Left – Right = Zero

              3. Just a hint, most newspapers target a 4th grade reading level. Good enough for most Americans. Maybe too much for President Trump but good enough for the rest of us.

                1. Major daily newspapers target a 9th grade reading level, which I’ve done for over 20 years of published (freelance ) op-eds

                  But you nailed it on Trump!!!

                  1. Huh, weird, since most newspapers average out to 11th grade. I guess you write for the dumber publications. 9th grade is generally the lowest end of the spectrum, with some really bad publications targeting 8th.

                    1. BELLOWING BLOWHARD … LAUNCHES ANOTHER MINDLESS INSULT ..,. BASED ON …. NOTHING …. MORE WIND OUT HIS ASS …. THE AUTHORITARIAN PRICK HATES LIBERTARIANS … STALKING US LIKE ANY TYPICAL CYBER-BULLY

                      GOOGLE DOC S PROVIDES FREE READING GRADE LEVELS — FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT USE MS WORD OR EQUIVALENT.

                      IT’S CALLED THE “Flesch-Kincaid Index” BY WE PROFESSIONALS.

                      Here’s the clearest reasons I can find … within your low IQ limits.

                      “My journalism instructors in J-School always said the news pages are written at a sixth to eighth grade level to insure most readers can understand the point. *****The issue is not dumbing down the readers, but making the appeal of the newspaper accessible to as many as possible. Simplicity is critical”

                      “Ideally you want to strike a balance so the person who didn’t finish high school can understand it, without insulting the intelligence of a college graduate”
                      ((much more complex than your simple-mindedness))

                      Trump blasts 10th grade Flesch Scale reading level NY Times. Can he even understand it?
                      ((sneer))

                      Compare with YOUR assholery

                      I guess you write for the dumber publications. 9th grade is generally the lowest end of the spectrum, with some really bad publications targeting 8th.1) Your grade levels were pulled out if your ass, around the side of your head.

                      2) The purpose is to MAXIMIZE READERS!!!! NOT DUMBNESS, DUMMY

                      3) I DID SAY “MAJOR DAILY NEWSPAPERS” … who (of course) are among the most dedicated to seeking the highest number of .,.. PAID SUBSCRIBERS!!! …. DO YOU KNOW THE POPULATION PROFILES FOR MAJOR URBAN AREAS?

                      My own first paper was local, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Ohio’s largest. The Sunday Op-Ed Editor mentored me, and taught me how to rate Reading Grade Level, helpful when I later began submitting nationwide. Do I believe an editor of Ohio’s largest newspaper, or some blowhard I INSTANTLY knew was full of shit?

                      Anything else?

                    2. Are you accusing BYODB of farting?

                    3. Was I way above your reading level again?

                      Or are you still just stalking me, as punishment for exposing your inability to read at a 9th grade reading level, that you created this sock for your revenge assaults?

                    4. Lmao. Door opened and then slammed shut by byodb

          3. Tell us more of this amusing story!

            1. Public records also show that Trump sold two mansions, each at nearly a 100% profit, nearly double what he paid, less than two years earlier, bought by Russian owners. That’s not PROOF of money laundering, but is a lot more money from Russia.

              One more.
              Are you aware that Trump’s Electoral College “landslide” was …. ready? … 39,000 voters, in three states combined. How much influence was NEEDED by .,.. Russia, Wikileaks and Comey?

              1. That’s a technical foul!

  19. I wonder if we will see a discussion of this case in the Volokh Conspiracy….

    1. Why do you feel this is a constitutional issue?

      1. It’s a Constitutional Crisis!

        1. Diversion.

          1. It’s like everyone else is playing in overtime and you’re still in preseason.

            1. Diversion

              1. Strike 3! You’re out!

                1. COWARDLY diversion

  20. Nunes is the mother of all FAKE humans. He’s also a fascist, authoritarian, anti-U.S. Constitution, anti-American TRAITOR (like ALL modern-day Republicans).

  21. Fake human? So a robot or a lizard?

  22. BEAR THIS IN MIND: In our system, doofi (the plural of “doofus,” from the original Latin) with a claim (good, bad, or ugly) and a filing fee can present their prayers for relief in a court of competent jurisdiction. CNN seems to have a mindset pre-ordained by its ideological bent, and this seriously impacts the accuracy of its reportage.

    1. You make this “conclusion” based on … nothing … before any trial or ruling … which makes you the doofus.

      1. Fuck off, Hihn.

  23. JFC, you trolls are annoying. It doesn’t matter whether CNN knowingly used a lying liar to push their anti-Nunes bias – in order to prove defamation you have to prove damage to one’s reputation and shitweasel politicians simply cannot clear that hurdle. You’re perfectly free to call any random member of Congress out there a criminally insane goat-fucking child molester and it’s going to be less damaging to his reputation than calling him a member of Congress.

    1. Good point. Buy what if you called him Sarah Palin’s Buttplug? Oh wait, that would be the same thing.

  24. Good reporting. There is something refreshing about one pack of looters tearing pieces out of another gang just as disgusting, dishonest and dispensable. Remember their claims as you vote Libertarian.

    1. Because …. still true …. Left-Right = Zero
      A growing majority of Americans now agrees.
      Today’s partisan tribes are so vicious and hateful, because most of the sane voters have abandoned any loyalty to either. (More independents are now ex-GOP than ex-DEM)

      1. I. Get. It. Now!

        Rape – holocaust = hihn

        The square has been circled!

        1. Lame-Ass diversion from

          Because …. still true …. Left-Right = Zero
          A growing majority of Americans now agrees.
          Today’s partisan tribes are so vicious and hateful, because most of the sane voters have abandoned any loyalty to either. (More independents are now ex-GOP than ex-DEM)

          Thus confirming his similarity to the Authoritarians on the left.

          1. Lame-ass=hihn?

  25. He’s got the same right to file libel lawsuits against CNN as the climate change activist has to file lawsuits against the National Review. Both are public figures. Swings both ways.

    1. Well, yeah. Now let’s see who wins.

    2. One would think. Now I have to go back and look at how Reason is covering both…

  26. This free speech warrior is also suing a cow.

    1. A cow running a Twitter account. That’s pretty impressive for a cow.

  27. Hey lawyers,

    I sometimes get physically sick and end up throwing up in my mouth a little when I read some of the arguments made by these Dear Leader supporters in the comments. Therefore, Because of the significant pain and suffering I am suffering, do you think I can sue John and his buttfucker boyfriend OBL for 5 billion dollars or is that too little?

    John: What did Dear Leader do? He was just rooting out corruption in Ukraine, which is something every President has done in the past

    {projectile vomit} uhhggghhh… Jesus Christ! My stomach.

    1. Not funny.

    2. John has alwats been bat-shit crazy … perhaps the most totally brainwashed of the Authoritarian Right goobers here. The danciest puppet on the alt-right string.

      Now I’m confused on what you are.

  28. This article incorrectly says Nunes is the top R on Judiciary when he is on Intel. Better change before he sues for an obvious fabrication.

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