Brickbat: Hear Something, Say Something

Alison Hernandez, police and crime commissioner for Devon and Cornwall,  England, says women should call the 999 emergency number if someone wolf-whistles or cat-calls them on the street. Meanwhile, knife crime in England and Wales is at a record high, robberies are at their highest level since 2007, and less than one in 13 reported crimes leads to a prosecution.

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[Quo Usque Tandem]

I look at Great Britain [aka "garbage island"] as a fascinating experiment: what would happen if all the wokes and progressives got their way, where the slightest offense or disrespect is treated as a crime, where guns are essentially non existent, and the government can intrude into and govern virtually any aspect of your life as much as it wants. And then watch what happens.

[loveconstitution1789]

+1000

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

I saw a comparison of violent crime rates, and the lowest rate was still several times as high as the US rate. Britain was among the highest, something like 5 or 6 times the US rate.

Of course, different legal systems, different police systems, different customs. I also gather that Britain doesn't count a dead body as murder, no matter how obvious, until someone has been convicted; so if half the murders are unsolved, it cuts the murder rate in half.

But the violent crime rate and self-defense laws do seem to bear out "an armed society is a polite society", and strangely seems to apply even in the US, where the rudest most self-aggrieved people are those who claim to believe self-defense is evil.

[Brandybuck]

It used to be a nation with bobbies. Cops without guns. Now they patrol with assault rifles.

[darkflame]

So yeah, they only count murders that have been someone who's been convicted, but wait, it gets better. They also track murders by the year someone gets convicted, so for example if I kill 20 people over a decade and then get captured, their stats make it look like 20 people died the year I get convicted, not spread out over a decade. BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE. When the UK gives its statistics, it's not including North Ireland and Scotland. Coincidentally, would you like to guess the parts of the UK with the highest violent crime?

Yeah, so a lot of the UK's crime rate is based on guesswork, because they're doing everything possible to suppress that shit.

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

Interesting details. I wonder how they track violent crime; it seems ripe for huge cultural differences, although I doubt they consider cat calls and wolf whistles as violent crime yet.

[MatthewSlyfield]

"I wonder how they track violent crime"

If what's been said here about it is true, it sounds like they are trying to NOT track violent crime.

[darkflame]

In a different life I studied to be a cop, and got my degree in Criminal Justice. Didn't decide to actually make my money that way (this was back at the height of Ferguson & BLM), but there was plenty of interesting things to learn, we looked at how some other countries handled law enforcement and criminal court including Japan, the UK, Germany, and France.

I don't think most people realize how much depends on the culture of the country. For example, what Japan and Germany does, where there's greater respect for authority and a much more homogenous culture, would never work here in the USA for a number of reasons. Japan and the UK are both on islands, which makes enforcement of some laws much easier. France's legal structure is different at its very core from us, and while some things (like having most judges come from the defense rather than the prosecution, which is the US way) might work, others never would.

Just something to bear in mind when you hear the liberals screaming that we need to be more like Europe.

[Longtobefree]

Knife crime?
How many crimes have knives committed?
As many as guns did?
GB is turning into one of those time travel movies where you come back from the future to warn yourself to stop doing something stupid.
Watch and learn, young grasshopper - - - - - -

[Fist of Etiquette]

Meanwhile, knife crime in England and Wales is at a record high, robberies are at their highest level since 2007, and less than one in 13 reported crimes leads to a prosecution.

Just what are you trying to say, Oliver?

[Unicorn Abattoir]

It's Giuliani's method of broken windows policing. If you stop catcalling and wolf whistles, knife crimes will go down.

And while this may take care of cats and wolves, this doesn't even being to address goat groping.

[LarryA]

If someone is robbing or stabbing you, give them a good catcall and the Bobbies will come running. You'll be the one they arrest, of course.
Gives new meaning to "I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by six."

[Jerryskids]

Good God, man! I don't want to know about whistles and catcalls - that's just being distracted by trivial bullshit. But have they banned foie gras? Let's not lose sight of what's really important here!

[Real Books]

Why does every news story out of Great Britain these days sound like a Monty Python skit?

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

You do know that John Cleese made a lot of training movies, right? From Wikipedia:

With Yes Minister writer Antony Jay, he co-founded Video Arts, a production company making entertaining training films.

[Quo Usque Tandem]

I've seen a couple of those; only times I did not nob off during some bullshit leadership development kool aid session.

[MatthewSlyfield]

Because their government is being run by escapees from the flying circus?

[markm23]

Not escapees, rejects. People too stupid or too egotistical to recognize when what they are doing is the joke.

[TangoDelta]

Cat calls are pointless. It isn't like cats listen when called. Much easier to just shake the bag of treats or open a can of food and they'll be underfoot before you can blink.

[timtim]

but this time a team that is readily available to be deployed to areas that have become chaotic or crimes have been reported. Ireland assignment help