Kochs

David Koch, R.I.P.

The free market philanthropist is dead at 79.

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David Koch, who along with his brother Charles ran one of America's most prominent political giving machines, has died at age 79.

Koch was one of four children of the oil industrialist Fred Koch, and along with his older brother Charles he became one of America's richest men through the growth of the family business. Due to the brothers' funding of political causes and candidates, the Kochs became betes noir of the American left. (Koch was for 36 years a trustee of the Reason Foundation, which publishes Reason magazine.) Often incorrectly described as a conservative or a Republican, David Koch was a lifelong libertarian whose work and giving reflected the values of free enterprise and limited government.

Born in Wichita in 1940, Koch earned undergraduate and graduate degrees in chemical engineering from MIT, where he also excelled in basketball. After working for outside companies from 1963 to 1970, including a stint at the management consulting firm Arthur D. Little, Koch began working in the family business in 1970 as a technical service manager at the subsidiary Koch Engineering for a salary of $16,000. He rose to be president of the division, and he went on to serve in various capacities in the set of privately owned family businesses, including president of Koch Engineering and Executive Vice President of Koch Industries. He retired officially last year because of his fading health.

In a 2005 interview for my book Radicals for Capitalism, Koch told me his father taught him that "big government was bad, and impositions of government controls on our lives and our economic fortunes was not good." In the mid-1960s, with encouragement from Charles, he attended the Freedom School, an early libertarian educational institution run by Robert LeFevre, whose variety of libertarianism rejected both political activism and violence, even in self-defense. While LeFevre was one of their earliest exposures to the organized libertarian movement, both brothers denied that they ever embraced his entire package of ideas. As they began financing, working with, and guiding libertarian institutions in the 1970s, their activism involved support and promotion for the pro-market Austrian school of economics exemplified by Ludwig von Mises and F.A. Hayek. Libertarian educational institutions, think tanks, legal action groups, grassroots activism, magazines, criminal justice reform efforts, and student groups all received largess and guidance from the Koch brothers from the 1970s through the present.

In the 1980 presidential campaign, when recently imposed campaign finance restrictions hobbled third parties' abilities to fundraise by severely limiting how much any single donor could give, David Koch took advantage of the fact that the rules allowed candidates themselves to self-finance as they wished: He became the Libertarian Party's vice presidential nominee. He and running mate Ed Clark got more than 1 percent of the vote, a party record that would go unbroken until 2016.

Koch told New York magazine during that campaign that he'd been excited by the previous Libertarian presidential run by Roger MacBride, saying the party was "advocating all the things I believed in. [MacBride] wanted less government and taxes and was talking about repealing all these victimless-crime laws that had accumulated on the books. I have friends who smoke pot. I know many homosexuals. It's ridiculous to treat them as criminals—and here was someone running for president, saying just that."

After winning the vice presidential nomination, Koch told the assembled Libertarian delegates that the party's members "represent the best hope for human freedom since the American revolution" and that "as a businessman, who's run a successful company, who's had to deal with the harassment and ridiculous interference of government in the affairs of my business….I can be particularly effective at communicating the libertarian ideas and concepts to the businessman." Koch listed the run as his "proudest achievement" in a 1987 MIT alumni newsletter.

In 1984 Koch co-founded Citizens for a Sound Economy, a free market advocacy and research organization that later split into FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity, both prominent players in 21st century Republican and libertarian circles in the pre-Trump age (though Koch was only directly involved with the latter). Koch continued to donate and to often serve on the boards of market-oriented advocacy groups, and the political operation funded and managed by him and Charles became notorious in the Obama age as the supposedly sinister face of money in politics.

As was his way, Koch mostly declined to participate in public controversies over his political beliefs or funding. But as he told me in that 2005 interview, he had come to see political philanthropy as finding "aggressive salesmen" who understand that you can have the best product in the world but if you aren't finding consumers to buy it, you need to do whatever it takes to sell it, including spending "staggering sums on advertising and promotion" in the mold of Procter & Gamble. You have to find talented people with good ideas, and try different approaches, to help generate political and philosophical change.

Koch was an inveterate experimenter in that process, to the great benefit of many libertarian institutions—he told me he'd been on as many as 20 boards at a time.

The vast bulk of Koch's philanthropy was not political. It included hundreds of millions of dollars for cancer research (he was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1992) and major arts and sciences institutions, museums, schools, and public television, with much of his institutional philanthropy centered in New York City, his home for decades.

He is survived by his wife Julia and their three children.

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  1. Hurry up please, it’s closing time.

  2. I’m sure there will be celebration in some quarters that one of their bogeyman is no longer engaging in nefarious bogeyman plans, but he did a lot of good things in his life.

    1. The comments on his obituary in the Washington Post are just brutal.

      1. When your whole political program is to crush human liberty and make the state the arbiter of all things, someone spending a lot of money spreading the message of freedom is your worst nightmare.

        1. Plus it was just assumed that Koch was anti-gay, anti-immigrant, etc.

    2. Nova is the only reason I watched TV for the last couple decades.

      1. Oh, you’re one of those.

    3. Emanuel Goldstein is dead. They’re not going to celebrate that, now they have to pick a new Emanuel Goldstein. Because the 5 minute hates have to continue.

      1. Goldstein will never die; another, say his brother, will replace him right about now, if not sooner.

  3. And Democrats cheer.

    1. Not really. Well at least not the knowledgable ones. He was funding quite a few liberal groups like Third Way the last few years as Open Borders began to dominate his philosophy.

        1. I did state the knowledgable ones. I don’t include wapo comments in that bucket.

          1. “I did state the knowledgable ones.”

            Both of them?

      1. Precisely. By pointing out billionaire support for causes like open borders (Koch brothers), common sense gun safety (Bloomberg), and impeachment (Steyer), I’ve managed to convince several of my progressive friends to reconsider their opposition to “big money in politics.”

        #BillionairesKnowBest

        1. Natcons like OBL are so weird.

          1. Eunuchs such as yourself are pathetic and worthless

  4. Today we’ll be reminded how toxic people can be.

    1. My fact-checking organization rates this comment “True”.

    2. “Today we’ll be reminded how toxic people can be.”

      And willfully ignorant.
      Commie-kid used to post here regarding how ‘dirty’ the Koch money was, since Dad tried to do business with the Soviets.
      And then realized what scumbags there were, quit, and became convinced that the market did better at helping people than commie thugs could ever hope for.
      THAT supposedly tarnished David and Charles.

  5. Did he have dirt on the Clinton’s too?

    1. LOLOL

  6. Nooo… I figured it was coming though, since he had been out of the limelight while Charles was still active. Shame. Hopefully his legacy will live on.

  7. It’s a tragic day indeed.

    However, I’m confident Reason Magazine will remain the leading journal of billionaire-funded open borders advocacy.

    1. Someone needs to fight the good fight against governments limiting human freedom of movement by clinging to medieval concepts like territorial control.

        1. @OpenBordersLiberal-tarian Your a fucking retard and one of the other commenters is right. If your for open borders why don’t you take down the fence around your living space, leave your doors unlocked and open for anybody to come in? Bet you won’t you insufferable, scumfuck hypocrite.

          1. You’ve got quite a head on your shoulders there.

      1. When YOU take down ALL the fences and walls round about your home,remove the locks from all the doors, leave the keys in your cars’ ignition all the time, and never say a word to anyone who for any reason or no reason at all nips round to pay you a visit with no warning, no introduction, then lets you know he expects YOU to feed, clothe, house, and get him around where HE wants to go, THEN maybe my ears might loosen up just a tad bit to your ideas about open borders, no vetting, welfare for all who come…. even the huddled masses learning to live for free……

        Until then your phoney rhetoric is, well,phoney rattling in the wind.

  8. The vast bulk of Koch’s philanthropy was not political.

    Can that be said about other philanthropists? The government (“philanthropy” used loosely)?

  9. How is using big government to crush competitors at all “free market”? The dude and his brother sunk millions to squash competition. That’s the antithesis of free market.

    Ridiculous.

    1. Not saying this is untrue, but do you have some cites?

    2. Example?

    3. I, too, would like to see links to some examples of Koch using big government to crush their competition.

      1. The only thing I can think of is the solar panel tie-in charge they were advocating for with state regulators. They were looking to get a fee charged to people who tie in to the grid with solar panels to cover maintenance costs.

        1. I have no problem with that. That is the situation a lot of places. The last time I checked, solar users in CA receive 100% reimbursement for the energy produced, based on the rates they pay their utility, and not just for the value of the energy produced.

          1. Yeah, the “net metering” thing is unsustainable and a big subsidy. If you look at an electric bill, you can see that a big part of what you pay is for delivery services. That infrastructure still is being used, and paid for by other customers, when your solar panels are putting power onto the grid.

    4. wearingit
      August.23.2019 at 9:48 am
      “How is using big government to crush competitors at all “free market”? The dude and his brother sunk millions to squash competition. That’s the antithesis of free market.”

      Odds on the lefty fucking ignoramus lying?
      Naah; don’t take candy from babies.

      1. so let me get this straight. YOU say they (Koch Bros0 used government to crush competition. Then in the next sentence you claim “they”, the only pronominal antecedent I can see for the word THEY is the Koch Bros, “sunk” (should be “sank”) millions to quash competition.

        Which is it? Was it government money used to quash certain select businesses, or was it Koch Brothers money? Can’t be both.
        Logic fail. Claim/complaint falls flat.

        1. They could have used millions to buy Congressmen and get laws passed squashing their competition. But until I see a citation, I’m going to assume that this is just typical leftist projection, ascribing the sins of lefty moneybags to the other side.

    5. You are an unuseful idiot

    6. wearingit
      August.23.2019 at 9:48 am
      “How is using big government to crush competitors at all “free market”? The dude and his brother sunk millions to squash competition. That’s the antithesis of free market.

      Hey, lefty scumbag! Still waiting for your evidence!

  10. More Ayn Rand Fantasyland. Free market? My ass. Small government? Ha! Not when the Kochs faced any competition — they used BIG government, yes BIG government — just like symphony conductors as they then took full advantage of that good old corporate welfare. It won’t be today.. it won’t be tomorrow… But eventually the Koch Machine and their ilk will simply be remembered as nothing more than plutocrats protecting their own; which is nothing new in history. But they are not Libertarian. They just used some Libertarianism to play the masses of rubes who call like to call themselves Libertarians. They are, however, a propaganda machine.

    1. Steve_B
      August.23.2019 at 10:07 am
      “More Ayn Rand Fantasyland….”

      More bullshit from one more fucking lefty ignoramus, and still no evidence.

  11. The dude and his brother sunk millions to squash competition.

    Your link is broken. You do know how to use html don’t you?

  12. Damn. I don’t necessarily agree with every position the Kochs take, but they’re by far the most agreeable. They not only put a lot of money where their mouth is but they did a lot of work overseeing what their money was doing as well. He will be hard, if not impossible, to replace.

    1. I’ll be seriously disappointed if H n R goes away. I’ve learned a lot from this website, even though I give the posters shit.

      1. Hit & Run is deader than David Koch.

        KM-W killed it and replaced it with “Lamest”

    2. Seconded… well put.

    3. I wonder why Brian didn’t mention the Koch-Rothbard split. That’s a rather important event in the history of libertarianism. Oh, well, at least he mentioned Robert LaFevre. “This Bread Is Mine” is still one of the coolest titles ever for a libertarian book.

      1. Do you know what that was about?

        1. It is available for free at the Mises Institute. You should read it.

        2. Oh, did you mean the split? Sorry. The split was between pure libertarianism as espoused by Rothbard, and whatever hodgepodge of ideas the Kochs believed, that still allowed them to use lobbying to leverage government power to suppress their competitors.

          1. “…that still allowed them to use lobbying to leverage government power to suppress their competitors.”

            Hmm; claims from fucking lefty ignoramus; no evidence.

          2. I don’t know that much about the split, nor do I really care about picking a side.

            However, I think a less biased way of describing it might be “purist vs pragmatist”. The Kochs wanted to gain mainstream appeal and influence policy; Rothbard wanted to maintain strict adherence to principle (especially in regards to Mises/Austrian Economics).

            1. That’s a good way of putting it.

            2. Yep. Theorists are great. They often have great ideas, and often create great “spaces” to talk about ideas. But, in any kind of pluralistic system, it takes pragmatism to get things done.

              1. Depends on what one means by “get things done.” In politics, it’s usually bad things.

                1. That’s a good point. Often times, I would rather have “bad things” get done than “terrible things”. Pragmatism can at least sometimes prevent the absolutely terrible. When I get sick of both bad and terrible, I do like to fall back on principle though.

                2. Chipper Morning Wood
                  August.23.2019 at 3:01 pm
                  “Depends on what one means by “get things done.” In politics, it’s usually bad things.”

                  Yeah, when called on bullshit, claim ‘they all do it’.

                3. “Depends on what one means by “get things done.” In politics, it’s usually bad things.”

                  All too often that is true. Maybe almost always true. No argument here. But even when the government does something right, like reducing regulation or whatever, it’s a result of pragmatists, on both side of the issue, coming to some kind of agreement. And yes, better not to have the regulations in the first place, and therefore no need for the government to do anything at all.

            3. Did it work or did the celebration of Koch’s passing just prove that it was a fool’s errand all along?

              1. We don’t live in libertopia, if that’s what you mean.

                I think the vitriolic celebrations of his passing might actually be more of an indication of his successes. Most of those celebrating are proponents of increased coerced collectivism. I’d be more concerned if they lamented his death.

                Again, I’m not vested in either side of the split. I think both camps are beneficial to the liberty movement.

    4. Well put. He will be missed.

    5. It’s going to suck in 50 years when the Koch Foundations have become founders of every Progressive cause

  13. “Koch began working in the family business in 1970 as a technical service manager at the subsidiary Koch Engineering for a salary of $16,000. He rose to be president of the division”

    His parents must have been so proud!

    The “free market” in promotions at Koch Engineering was very kind to Mr. Koch. Much like the “free market” in MIT admissions, I gather. No wonder he was such a fan.

    1. Such a sad little man you are.

      1. A big fan of silver-spooned right-wingers who try to spend their way (with inherited funds) to a place in the marketplace of ideas, are you?

        1. Nothing better to do with your time than post inane comments, usually copied and pasted, in an attempt to antagonize people so they will give you a little bit of the attention you so desperately crave. How sad and pathetic your life must be.

        2. “A big fan of silver-spooned right-wingers who try to spend their way (with inherited funds) to a place in the marketplace of ideas, are you?”

          A jealous loser hoping to make others as pathetic as you, are you?

          1. It’s comments like this that reveal Sevo as the anti-free market authoritarian that he is.

            1) Kirkland comments that Koch inherited his wealth and position;
            2) Sevo responds that Kirkland is a ‘jealous loser’.
            3) ‘Loser’ in this context refers to the status of being born without wealth.
            4) In a free market system, ‘winners’ and ‘losers’ are not defined by birth.
            5) In Sevo’s preferred system, inherited wealth is protected from the ‘jealousy’ of those born without, ‘losers’.
            6) Which aptly explains why Sevo has deluded himself into thinking Libertarianism is a weapon to be used to instituionalize his inherited wealth at the expense of those that work for a living.
            7) Which brings us around to the main reason there are so many like Sevo who completely misunderstand libertarianism, the Kochs used their money to pervert the libertarian movement into a weapon that those with inherited wealth and influence over government use to stifle competition and the free market. They have ‘redefined’ Libertarianism, much the same as Ayn Rand ‘redefined’ philosophy.

            1. Robes Pierre
              August.23.2019 at 3:31 pm
              “It’s comments like this that reveal Sevo as the anti-free market authoritarian that he is.”
              It’s comments like this that reveal the fucking lefty ignoramus Hihn invented another sock
              Fuck off, you pathetic piece of shit.

              1. Can’t argue with the logic…

                1. Robes Pierre
                  August.23.2019 at 6:06 pm
                  “Can’t argue with the logic…”

                  I know that, and you’re also very good at posting bullshit, as you did above.
                  Fuck off.

                2. Robes Pierre
                  August.23.2019 at 6:06 pm
                  “Can’t argue with the logic…”

                  BTW, shitstain, I see you ignored where your bullshit was again called out downthread.
                  Are you simply a lefty fucking ignoramus, or that and a liar besides?

            2. Mr. Koch claimed to be a libertarian but funded a lifetime of vote suppressors, gay-bashers, environmental predators, racists, drug warriors, military belligerents, misogynists, influence peddlers, anti-abortion absolutists, Muslim banners, corporate welfare providers, theocrats, corporate welfare recipients, influence purchasers, and military budget bloaters.

              With libertarians like that, who needed bigoted right-wing authoritarians?

              1. “Mr. Koch claimed to be a libertarian but funded a lifetime of vote suppressors, gay-bashers, environmental predators, racists, drug warriors, military belligerents, misogynists, influence peddlers, anti-abortion absolutists, Muslim banners, corporate welfare providers, theocrats, corporate welfare recipients, influence purchasers, and military budget bloaters.”

                One more fucking lefty ignoramus with one more pile of lies and zero evidence.
                Fuck off, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

        3. You fantasize about winning the “culture war” so you can orally rape others.

          1. That’s really all he does

            He should be #metooed

    2. Wait just a second there, Art. Are you suggesting David Koch didn’t have the stellar SAT score that got David Hogg into Harvard?

      1. An entire lifetime of getting stomped by liberal-libertarian progress in America has made some clingers quite cranky.

        Not that what they think will matter much as America improves.

        1. You didn’t even attempt to answer the question.

          Did you mistakenly reply to the wrong post?

          1. He got distracted by fantasizing about shoving his dick in your mouth.

    3. We all don’t come from poverty, Rev.

  14. “You have to find talented people with good ideas, and try different approaches, to help generate political and philosophical change.”
    True then, true today. Let’s get on with it.

  15. How to feel about the death of one of the most calamitously destructive humans to ever exist. HUMMMM.

    But he did give money to opera and shit.

    1. Come on, Tony. You must be aware of David Koch’s promotion of open borders — the position the Democratic Party is rapidly embracing. That’s far more important than his funding of the fine arts.

      1. But far less important than his promotion of climate change denial. Open borders isn’t actually a thing, you see, and if it were, the problem would simply be a market concern. Of course Republicans insist on making it a racial issue.

        1. Tony, why are you such a climate conservative?

        2. You have a source on climate change denial? He never denied it’s happening.

        3. You really think the world would be all unicorns and rainbows if there weren’t people who opposed the conventional wisdom on climate change? “most calamitously destructive humans to ever exist” is ridiculously hyperbolic even if he was dead wrong about climate change.

          1. “…“most calamitously destructive humans to ever exist” is ridiculously hyperbolic even if he was dead wrong about climate change….”

            And if it does represent a real risk, it’s dead certain that the way to fix it is NOT government activity.:
            “U.S. Achieves Largest Decrease in Carbon Emissions…Without the Paris Climate Accord ”
            […]
            “As his final virtue-signaling performance as President, Barack Obama entered the United States into the Paris Climate Accord. The Obama administration celebrated the agreement, which curiously bypassed the traditional congressional ratification process, as a great political accomplishment. Since the accord’s bylaws prevent members from leaving until 2020, Obama officials swore it was “Trump-proof.
            Trump’s decision to withdraw the U.S. from the accord received widespread condemnation and provoked outrage among establishment Democrats, the international community, and climate alarmists everywhere.”
            (Obo was under the mistaken belief that he was king)
            “But last week, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) analyzed data and released a chart based on research by the 2018 BP Statistical Review of Global Energy and University of Michigan economist Mark Perry indicating that the United States achieved the largest decline in carbon emissions in the world for the 9th time this century. AEI reported that in 2017, U.S. carbon emissions decreased by more than 42 million tons. Despite departing from the Paris agreement, the U.S. significantly reduced its carbon footprint this year. This remarkable success can be attributed to substituting natural gas for coal. We’re upholding our end of the contract and we’re not even signees anymore!”
            https://capitalresearch.org/article/u-s-achieves-largest-decrease-in-carbon-emissionswithout-the-paris-climate-accord/

        4. Climate Change Denial isn’t actually a thing, you see, and if it were, it would be irrelevant to the climate

        5. I’ll start believing that climate change is a serious concern when people who tell me it’s a super serious-y concern stop buying mansions along the ocean.

          1. And I’ll start believing that Tony is seriously concerned about climate change when he demonstrates some curiosity regarding the science behind it.

            1. I’m not a scientist myself but I am confident I know more about climate science than any of the deniers here.

              Science is not “I read only Judith Curry because she makes me feel better.”

              1. Tony
                August.24.2019 at 1:49 pm
                “I’m not a scientist myself but I am confident I know more about climate science than any of the deniers here.”
                You certainly are not a scientist and have no idea what the term “science” means.
                Fuck off and die.

          2. Rich neighborhoods will get levees. That’s one among many benefits of being rich.

        6. Obama dropped bombs on nations, utilized secret drone kill lists and spied on the American people. But David Koch is a monster!

          The entirety of the democratic base would revolt if the insane “green new deal” was ever implemented in this nation. Sky rocketing housing and energy prices would one day drive up homeless population in big states. Oh wait, that’s happening already.

          1. What are those things Trump has been dropping on countries? Flowers?

            And he deliberately targets civilians in contravention of international law, just as he said he would do in his campaign.

            1. “And he deliberately targets civilians in contravention of international law, just as he said he would do in his campaign.”

              Wanna bet shitbag here has, oh, vox as a cite for this?

    2. “How to feel about the death of one of the most calamitously destructive humans to ever exist.”

      Well, Stalin’s and Mao’s deaths were quite pleasing.
      You’re certainly not in the same league, but please die and we can at least celebrate that.

    3. I got over the death of FDR a long time ago.

    4. How to feel about the death of one of the most calamitously destructive humans to ever exist. HUMMMM.

      Hey everyone, another student of history in our midst.

    5. Jamie Gorelick is dead???

    6. Wait, George Soros (an actual Nazi sympathizer) is dead too?

      1. +100

    7. “How to feel about the death of one of the most calamitously destructive humans to ever exist.”

      I am pretty sure you do not even truly think that. But even if i am wrong, why the need to post this on his obituary?

      I sincerely think you’re worth better than that.

    8. Aside from being ignorant, you’re also a vicious prick.

  16. Not a fan of Scott Greer, but he has a point here.

    1. Damn. There be some harsh people commenting there. Sort of sounds like a whole lot of those commenting here at Reason (from whatever “side”).

    2. I’m sure it’s true of some public libertarian figures. But a lot of people came to libertarianism through an interest in drug law reform and social liberalization.

      1. I came here because of the women.

        1. This place is like a used car lot in that regard… you’ll be happier if you don’t ever check under the hood.

        2. It worked for a few people.

    3. LOL Holy shit. Literally buttsex, weed, and Mexicans.

  17. Reading the comments in the various media outlets on Koch’s death one would expect Stalin, Mao et al would have kinder thoughts expressed.

    So much hate for a man that virtually 100% of the posters know nothing more about him than the screeds left like road apples on kerb of the interweb.

    1. The hate the left shows for anyone who disagrees with them on anything is appalling. I didn’t agree with Obama or Clinton but I never gave the hatred the left are showing. I will say I’m not sure if Hillary has evil intent or will just do anything to be president but thankfully she failed

      1. Birthers say what?

        (Birthers, not Birchers. Birchers was with the Kochs, not the Obamas.)

        1. “Birthers say what?”
          We know what asshole bigot say.

          “(Birthers, not Birchers. Birchers was with the Kochs, not the Obamas.)”
          One more fucking lefty ignoramus lie.

  18. Reason should abolish its utterly useless and often disgusting comment section.

    1. Libertarianism should be about a clean, agreeable one-way conversation.

    2. “Reason should abolish its utterly useless and often disgusting comment section.”

      Reason should ban fucking nitwits like this.

    3. I’ll grant it’s often disgusting. But uselessness depends on what you want to use it for.

  19. Good riddance. The most damaging thing he did was advocate for open borders and mass immigration in order to ensure a supply of cheap labor and suppressed wages.

    This dimwit helped import millions and millions of 3rd world socialist voters. Was he actually dumb enough to think that his efforts furthered the preservation of liberty, rather than its destruction?

    1. “The most damaging thing he did was advocate for open borders and mass immigration in order to ensure a supply of cheap labor and suppressed wages.”

      Wrong, wrong, wrong. It’s disappointing to see people on the world’s best libertarian site promoting discredited Bernie Sanders talking points.

    2. “This dimwit helped import millions and millions of 3rd world socialist voters. Was he actually dumb enough to think that his efforts furthered the preservation of liberty, rather than its destruction?”

      Yes, he was a good bit more intelligent than you.

  20. NPR / All Things Considered gave him a surprisingly even-handed eulogy, this morning. Dunno if he was a contributor, but they definitely left off the 5-minute hate.

    1. It’s not saying much, but I think NPR is at least less terrible than the major TV networks and the NY Times when it comes to political slant and bias.

      1. Hahaha. NPR is horribly Lefty. It’s not always their comments but what stories they pick and like all Lefty Propaganda, you can always see the pushed Narrative.

        Take a new aggregator that simply posts daily links for people to choose from. Much less biased based on its design.

        The fact that you don’t see that explains more about you.

      2. Well, yeah. PBS’ nightly news is also better than all cable news.

    2. Public media knows where their bread is buttered.

    3. Dunno if he was a contributor

      Not sure about personal money, but Koch Industries, yes.

  21. Is it a private funeral or can anyone from anywhere in the world crash it?

  22. ““You have to find talented people with good ideas, and try different approaches, to help generate political and philosophical change.””

    The Kochs are the worst thing ever to happen to the libertarian movement.
    1) Their version of ‘libertarianism’ happened to coincide with the interests of billionaires who welded immense power over government;

    2) Their money flooded out every competing idea in libertarianism;

    3) Unable to be heard over the, pompous and well funded, sycophants that parroted the official line, most libertarians gave up;

    4) Libertarians can’t gain any traction among the voters because the official libertarian dogma pushed by the Kochs primarily benefits the small class of people who inherit substantial wealth and family connections at the expense of people who work for a living.

    The libertarian movement would greatly benefit from the removal of the big money and the return to the free market of ideas which preceded the Koch’s.

    1. “The Kochs are the worst thing ever to happen to the libertarian movement.
      1) Their version of ‘libertarianism’ happened to coincide with the interests of billionaires who welded immense power over government;”
      Fucking lefty ignoramus claims, again, no evidence,

      “2) Their money flooded out every competing idea in libertarianism;”
      So idiots like you were ignored as you would have been anyhow?

      “3) Unable to be heard over the, pompous and well funded, sycophants that parroted the official line, most libertarians gave up;”
      Fucking lefty ignoramus claims, again minus evidence.

      “4) Libertarians can’t gain any traction among the voters because the official libertarian dogma pushed by the Kochs primarily benefits the small class of people who inherit substantial wealth and family connections at the expense of people who work for a living.”
      Fucking lefty ignoramus claims, again minus evidence.

      “The libertarian movement would greatly benefit from the removal of the big money and the return to the free market of ideas which preceded the Koch’s.”
      And the removal of fucking lefty ignoramuses like you.
      Fuck off.

  23. Justin Raimondo deserved more column space than you have devoted to a man that Raimondo had to convince to embrace the gay rights movement.

    1. How did it advance the cause of liberty to embrace the bake the cake, sell us the flowers, take our wedding pictures, can’t keep me out of your public accommodation, gotta hire me, can’t fire me, or I’ll sic the government and social media mobs on you to ruin your life and business movement?

  24. You’d think we’d just beat Hitler the way that reddit is reacting.

    And it all stems from the climate cultist being pissed he had the audacity to find science that didn’t support the cult.

    1. “And it all stems from the climate cultist being pissed he had the audacity to find science that didn’t support the cult.”

      Religions do not take kindly to heretics.

  25. At least he can’t give any more money to that Mango Moron in the White House.

    1. KWlib
      August.23.2019 at 5:45 pm
      “At least he can’t give any more money to that Mango Moron in the White House.”

      One more case where we can really hope TDS is fatal.

    2. That’s God-Emperor TRUMP to you, commie.

  26. I didn’t know him well, but he was a very nice man.

  27. “In a 2005 interview for my book Radicals for Capitalism, Koch told me his father taught him that “big government was bad, and impositions of government controls on our lives and our economic fortunes was not good.” ” Fred Koch also said in 1938 that “Although nobody agrees with me, I am of the opinion that the only sound countries in the world are Germany, Italy and Japan, simply because simply because they are all working and working hard.” https://books.google.com/books?id=qmx-AgAAQBAJ&pg=PT38 that anti-communism led many supposedly “small government” types into apologetics for Hitler is something American right-wing “libertarians” don’t like to mention, but it is still a fact.

    1. DavidS-T
      August.25.2019 at 4:11 am
      “…that anti-communism led many supposedly “small government” types into apologetics for Hitler is something American right-wing “libertarians” don’t like to mention, but it is still a fact.”

      Hmm; didn’t see any apologetics for Hitler there, besides which blaming the sons for a father’s supposed sins is a typically scummy lefty process.
      Maybe you’re lying since you’re a scumbag lefty hoping to sail under a false flag?

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