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Rand Paul Was Right to Delay Vote on Funding Bill for 9/11 First Responders

The Kentucky senator wants the Senate to consider offsetting spending cuts before approving limitless, automatic spending for the rest of the century.

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Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) is catching a lot of flak for demanding that the Senate actually debate an open-ended extension of the September 11 Victims Compensation Fund.

On Wednesday afternoon, Paul objected when Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D–N.Y.) attempted to pass the bill by unanimous consent—an expedited process that does not require each senator to record his or her vote.

"Any new spending that we are approaching, any new program that's going to have the longevity of 70, 80 years, should be offset by cutting spending that's less valuable," said Paul on the Senate floor. "We need to at the very least have this debate. I will be offering up an amendment if this bill should come to the floor, but until then I will object."

Sen. Mike Lee (R–Utah) also opposed passing the bill by unanimous consent.

The bill, H.R. 1327, would extend the life of the Victims Compensation Fund to 2090. (The fund is currently set to stop accepting claims by the end of next year.) It would also do away with any limited appropriations for the fund, instead paying out however much is necessary to cover eligible claims through 2092.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the bill would cost $10.2 billion over the next decade.

The first 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund operated from 2001 to 2003, and awarded $7 billion to the families of the 2,880 people killed in the attacks on that day, plus another 2,680 who were injured.

In 2011 the fund was renewed and expanded to cover anyone injured during the rescue and recovery efforts at the targeted World Trade Center, as well as those in proximity to the attacks who were injured or came down with other health problems, including cancer.

Since 2011, the fund has since given out $5.2 billion to nearly 29,000 claimants.

Despite Paul's objections, the permanent extension of the victim's fund will almost certainly pass. The Senate's reauthorization measure currently has 73 co-sponsors, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R–Ky.) has said he will put it to a vote before the August recess.

On Fox News, former Daily Show host and 9/11 first responder champion Jon Stewart accused Paul of "fiscal responsibility virtue signaling," saying the Kentucky senator's current concerns about the deficit were hypocritical in light of his support for 2017's tax cuts.

Stewart was not alone in this line of criticism.

These condemnations skate over Paul's rather reasonable position that the Senate should actually debate the bill and consider fiscal offsets before approving nearly a century's worth of effectively unlimited spending.

Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) made this same point last week when explaining why he voted against the victim fund's extension in the House:

And while it's true that Paul voted for a deficit-increasing tax cut, he has also consistently introduced legislation to cut spending across the board. Just last month, the Senate rejected a budget plan authored by Paul that would have cut federal spending by $183 billion in the coming fiscal year.

Libertarian-leaning folks like Paul want less spending, lower taxes, and smaller deficits. The senator has a record of supporting all three policies, even though the rest of Congress seems only able to muster support for one.


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President Donald Trump's attacks on "Squad" member Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.) escalated markedly Wednesday night at a North Carolina rally. Trump went on an extended rant against the congresswoman, declaring that she "looks down with contempt on the hardworking Americans, saying 'ignorance is pervasive in many parts of this country.'" He also said that "Omar has a history of launching vicious anti-Semitic screeds."

The president's riff sparked a chant of "send her back" from the crowd, which Trump did not discourage.

Both right and left condemned the crowd's behavior on Twitter:

Omar herself responded Wednesday night, tweeting a quote from poet Maya Angelou.


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The House voted to repeal the Affordable Care Act's "Cadillac tax" on high-end health plans by a commanding 419–6 vote. That measure, passed as part of the initial Obamacare legislation, imposed a 40 percent tax on employer-sponsored insurance plans worth $11,200 for individuals and $30,100 for families. It was scheduled to go into effect in 2022.

Both unions and businesses opposed the tax, as it raised the cost of providing fringe health benefits to employees.

Free marketeers are split on the tax. Many view it as just another way the government makes health care coverage more expensive. But some libertarians have offered tentative support for it. By taxing wages but not health benefits, they argue, the current tax code encourages an expensive, inefficient system of employer-sponsored insurance coverage. The "Cadillac tax" amounts to a partial rollback of this distortionary tax policy, the thinking goes.

Libertarian-leaning Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) voted against the tax's repeal.


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  1. Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) is catching a lot of flak for demanding that the Senate actually debate an open-ended extension of the September 11 Victims Compensation Fund.

    HE’S FILIBUSTER HAPPY!

    1. Hello.

      Ariana Huffington is still around?

      Who knew?!

    2. Fuck sanctimonious Jon Stewart and the bratty NY State/City first responders he rode in on

      1. Too soon?

      2. The bill, H.R. 1327, would extend the life of the Victims Compensation Fund to 2090. (The fund is currently set to stop accepting claims by the end of next year.) It would also do away with any limited appropriations for the fund, instead paying out however much is necessary to cover eligible claims through 2092.

        Even the Veterans Health system does not allow all claims of service-connected disability to be filed forever. You have to file most claims within a short period of time after leaving the US Military.

        The First Responders to Sept. 11 evidently do have some health problems related to the collapsed buildings but they have NY health insurance and Union insurance which should cover everything.

        Some of these First Responders want cash. Did y’all also know that taxpayers paid out money to the civilians that died on 9/11? Yup. I guess regular life insurance would not pay out because it was a labelled a “terrorist attack” and insurance has all sorts of exemptions for War and Terrorism.

        The fund received 7,408 claim submissions from 75 countries. Awards were made in 5,560 of those cases and totaled over $7 billion.
        The fund received 2,963 death claims. This accounted for more than 98% of eligible families. Funds were distributed in 2,880 of these cases. The average award was $2,082,128 and went as high as $7.1 million.
        The fund received 4,445 personal injury claims. Funds were distributed in 2,680 of these cases. The awards ranged from $500.00 to $8.6 million.
        The money was tax-free.

        Statistics for Re-opened VCF (as of May 31, 2019):

        Since its re-opening in 2011, the VCF has received 50,170 total eligibility claims. Of that, 23,641 eligibility claims have been approved and 16,715 are still processing.
        More than $5.1 billion in compensation has been rendered.
        The lowest dollar value of a compensation decision was $86.07.

        September 11th Victim Aid and Compensation Fast Facts

        1. VA disability claims can be filed for as long as the disabled veteran is alive.

          HOWEVER, if you want to receive disability compensation pay from the time you separate/retire from the military it must be filed within 18 or 24 months (I can’t remember and can’t find the reference off-hand) from the time the veteran separates, otherwise they only draw disability from the time they’re approved and get no “back-pay”.

          The longer you wait from the time you separate/retire from the military, the harder it is to get approved as it becomes more difficult to prove that your condition is service related and not something you inccurred AFTER service.*

          *Exceptions (people whose conditions are automatically presumed to be service related): POWs, people with certain conditions who were at Camp Lejeune during a certain period, Gulf War vets, vets with ALS (was unaware of this exception), vets exposed to Agent Orange, and a few others.

  2. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the bill would cost $10.2 billion over the next decade.

    Let’s see if we can’t get that down to $9.11 billion.

    1. Every penny counts.

    2. Nice, but only if the law has a silly-acronym name too.

    3. “Since 2011, the fund has since given out $5.2 billion to nearly 29,000 claimants.”

      Considering 3000 people were killed, and about 6,000 injured, why are there 29,000 claimants? Note 5.2 billion/29,000 = $179,000 payout on average to each claimant.

      Paul and Amish are right to reject this, because it’s a racket whereby some people have managed to get lots of money when they should be paying it out of their own pocket. Even when soldiers die on the battlefield their families get a death gratuity of $12,420. The government isn’t paying compensation to victims of other natural disasters, crime, or other terrorist incidents, and it shouldn’t. They have the freedom to do what other victims do: sue the responsible party and collect it from them. Of course when the offender is in another country (like for Otto Warmbier who suffered death from Kim’s prisons) collecting is a problem.

  3. …Jon Stewart accused Paul of “fiscal responsibility virtue signaling,” saying the Kentucky senator’s current concerns about the deficit were hypocritical in light of his support for 2017’s tax cuts.

    Stewart to Paul on signaling: You’re doing it wrong.

    1. Your ignorance of Paul’s outrageous support for unpaid tax cuts exposes your ignorance of the principle involved here.

      Why do you support Trump’s GOP already adding more new debt than Obama did AFTER 8 years?

      How can you defend such a massive tax increase on your own children and grandchildren …without their vote or consent … a moral fraud first exposed by Thomas Jefferson, over 200 years ago? Catch up!

      1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano continues his exceptional chimpouts.

  4. If, God forbid, Rand Paul is ever trapped in a burning building, maybe a $1 trillion tax cut will run in to save him. https://t.co/H3QGH1cc1F

    — Arianna Huffington (@ariannahuff) July 18, 2019

    The feels trumps math.

    1. Does anyone pay attention to her anymore? Didn’t she manage to piss off the liberals somehow recently? SEND HER HOME!

      1. she did piss off liberals when she got payed millions for her Huff-Post while all the writers were vollonteers, for some reason they didn’t know Arianna learned how to screw over people when she was married to Trump

        1. Arianna Huffington- Wikipedia

          Of course, she was not married to Trump. Her life reads like someone you should never believe or trust.

          She didn’t even know that her husband was gay.

    2. Forget it Fist, it’s Politicstown

    3. Apparently, she’s unaware that NOT TAKING other people’s money isn’t the same as just handing it out without oversight…

  5. “The House has killed a renegade attempt to impeach Trump, sponsored by Rep. Al Green (D–Texas).”

    I’m not discouraged. With Mueller having definitively proven collusion and obstruction, and with Drumpf running literal concentration camps, impeachment is inevitable.

    The walls are closing in. It’s the beginning of the end.

    #Resist
    #Impeach

    1. I think it might actually be the end of the beginning.

  6. So let me get this straight: Robert Reich is still a little bitch?

  7. But still, like air, I’ll rise.

    Her bulb head certainly has enough hot air floating in there to accomplish that feat.

    1. I got your rising air right here.

    2. She quoted Maya Angelou? I Know Why The Aged Turd Stinks.

    3. I need to tattoo that to my arm, just above the “and yet she persisted” I put there last summer.

    4. That would depend largely on the temperature.

  8. So let me get this straight: @RandPaul has no problem voting for billions in tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, but votes against providing health care for 9/11 first responders because he’s worried about the debt.

    — Robert Reich (@RBReich) July 17, 2019

    You did not get this straight.

    Tax cuts coupled with spending cuts. Never forget.

    1. And fuck how much do these people need? They’ve already spent over $12 B, right?

    2. You did not get this straight.

      Go ahead, make a massive fool of yourself, yet again.

      Tax cuts coupled with spending cuts. Never forget.

      Rand forgot. And you “think” that cutting taxes can be offset by TALKING about spending cuts!!!!

      Liberals borrow trillions to “pay for” free stuff.
      Conservatives and fake libertarians borrow trillions to “pay for” free tax cuts.

      So tell us,
      1) If your own children and grandchildren get FUCKED with ten trillion of new liabilities, WITHOUT THEIR VOTE OR CONSENT … do you seriously believe it matters whether the debt was caused by more spending or lower taxes? REALLY?

      2) Who manages your own personal budget?

      Left – Right = Zero

      1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano’s IQ = Zero

    1. Rumor has it some of those men were fucking Nazis!!!! I shit you not.

      1. *Wernher von Braun glances around nervously*

        “Vunce zee rockets go up, who cares vare zay come down? Zats not my department” says Wernher von Braun…

    2. And the person who wrote this somehow missed all the articles on the Internet and movies about women programmers at NASA, including the lead software engineer.

      1. There was an article in the latest National geographic about how all astronauts should be women when we take over the next planet since they only need to take some man juice with them and supposidly women are better at everything including pulling hair in cat fights which will happen

  9. And while it’s true that Paul voted for a deficit-increasing tax cut…

    [on knees looking up to heavens during rainstorm] BRITSCHGI!!!

  10. Since 2011, the fund has since given out $5.2 billion to nearly 29,000 claimants.

    29,000?? WTH? How many people died and were injured? Then again, I think we are still paying 4 or 5 people civil war veterans benefits. This should be exhibit A whenever a politician argues to send troops to settle a civil war in some shithole country.

    1. If you’re old enough to remember, Blocks and blocks were covered in ash and smoke, tens of thousands of people have long-lasting health problems because of this.

      1. The fund is for first responders, not everyone who breathed some bad air.

        1. Incorrect, according to the website:
          The September 11th Victim Compensation Fund (“VCF”) was created to provide compensation for any individual (or a personal representative of a deceased individual) who suffered physical harm or was killed as a result of the terrorist-related aircraft crashes of September 11, 2001 or the debris removal efforts that took place in the immediate aftermath of those crashes.

          Considering dust and ash contained minute particles of EVERYTHING that was in the collapsed buildings, “bad air” drastically undersells what people inhaled.

        2. $parkY wrong again.

          1. No one is tried of laughing at him for it, and it seems to be happening far more frequently lolololol.

        3. You are quite literally incorrect, Sparky. Once again, you show both your supreme self confidence and unparalleled ignorance in one sentence.

      2. I’ve experienced trauma from watching it, I’d like a tax refund please

        1. Just retain the right attorney.

    2. Doesn’t that work out to about $1.8 million each?

    3. and the only people who will be alive by 2090 will be children born after all the brave heros got home and impregnated their wives. i don’t know why this all matters since we will all be dead by 2012

      1. +100

        Rand Paul should totally mention that as a reason to deny funding. Or use AOC’s stupid day of death.

    4. There was only one Civil War pensioner remaining back in 2018.

  11. More bad economic news.

    Netflix Falls Short On Q2 Subscriber Growth, Sees Shares Drop 12% After Hours

    The economy is so bad people cannot even afford the ten bucks per month or whatever Netflix charges.

    #DrumpfRecession

    1. Netflix should send everyone sign-up CDs in the mail every friggin’ day.

    2. Netflix needs to chill.

    3. Nah. People who were happy to pay Netflix $10 a month for a huge catalog of quality movies of a variety of ages and origins, plus a small, high quality set of compelling original content that was bingeable water cooler (or maybe social media, now?) pop culture discussion material are much less likely to find a withered husk of movie content and shotgun approach to new content among a sea of competitors who have been letting their dirt cheap content licenses to Netflix lapse and are withholding them either for unprofitable (to Netflix) new terms or in a bid to beef up their own library for a competing $10/mo service.

      Netflix had huge success because the content owners couldn’t see how valuable their catalog was or what appetite there was for streaming. Now that they’ve demonstrated how successful the model is, all those owners are salivating and will tank the market by trying to milk as much as they can out of it for themselves at the expense of the variety, convenience, and value that made Netflix so attractive to cord cutters in the first place. It’s a classic boom/bust cycle.

    4. Obama deal destroyed them.

  12. BREAKING: Here are the 2020 Democratic candidates who qualify for CNN’s debate…

    Two thousand twenty candidates sounds unmanageable.

    1. That’s certainly one way to get closer to true democracy.

  13. The White House and Congress are reportedly getting closer to a budget deal.

    The economy is moving full tilt, so now is the perfect time to run up a deficit.

  14. More kids in the U.S. and Britain would rather be YouTubers than astronauts.

    To be fair, Neil Armstrong may have chose differently if he had Fortnite and Grand Theft Auto instead of Howdy Doody.

    1. Kids these days. Being the first to floss on the moon seems like a reasonable life goal to me.

  15. Prosecutors have dropped sexual assault charges against actor Kevin Spacey.

    Yes but can they offer a way to go back and “fix” the House of Cards ending?

  16. Not a fan of Trump’s ploy here but I have little to no sympathy for Ilhan or the other three ignorant, illiberal whack jobs.

    1. You missed a few. There are 194 democrat reps, and plenty of shitheads on the other side too

      1. Yeh but those four….yeesh.

    2. War is Hell and War on Socialism is Hella Hell.

  17. Both right and left condemned the crowd’s behavior on Twitter…

    They are all CANCELLED.

    1. Does a Never Trumper like Jonah Goldberg count as the “right”?

      1. He was on the right before Trump was. And will be after.

        1. Only because he will call himself that, not because anyone on the right can stand him or wants to be associated with him.

          1. Whether or not he has friends on the right, his ideology is solidly there.

            1. I imagine that is what all you cuck appeasers like to tell yourself.

  18. Now it’s facing a deluge of privacy concerns.

    Facing? Boo.

    Also, all you idiots who used it are going to be so easy to identify in 20 years.

  19. Prosecutors have dropped sexual assault charges against actor Kevin Spacey.

    Netflix probably feels pretty silly right about now.

    1. Kevin Spacey probably doesnt need the trouble or money but he should sue until someone at Netflix loses their job.

  20. Senator Rand Paul recent courage on fiscal responsibility amazes me, mostly because it has eluded him so often in the past. But when it comes to people healthcare he is certainly willing to draw the line. He wants cut in the budget to offset the spending. I suggest he start with Federal funds going to Kentucky. A state listed as the second most dependent on Federal dollars. Kentucky takes in over $2 dollars of Federal money for every $1 they send to Washington.

    1. Shitlib cries because MUH FREE MUNNY might be delayed a week.

  21. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/surge-in-voters-who-say-race-card-used-against-trump-for-political-gain

    Surge in voters who say the race card is used against Trump for political gain. It appears not everyone is a dumb as the Democrats and media thinks they are.

    1. Yes but can the Trump Card actually trump the Race Card?

      #Spades

      1. I sadly don’t get to play cards much anymore. But in the era of Trump, people should add a joker to the deck when they play Spades and call it the MAGA Trump card that beats even the Ace of Spades.

        1. Ace of Spades? Dog whistle!

          1. Lemmy was unavailable for comment.

            1. +1 killed by death.

  22. The White House and Congress are reportedly getting closer to a budget deal.

    Just like Admiral Yamamoto, only a few more zeroes away from winning.

    1. Very good

      1. “$park¥ is the Worst
        July.18.2019 at 10:02 am
        The fund is for first responders, not everyone who breathed some bad air.”

    2. yeah dude great line.

  23. Prosecutors have dropped sexual assault charges against actor Kevin Spacey.

    Now he can go back to Hollywood and get his career and reputation back.

    1. “$park¥ is the Worst
      July.18.2019 at 10:02 am
      The fund is for first responders, not everyone who breathed some bad air.”

  24. FaceApp—a smartphone application that adds years and beards to users’ selfies—was innocent fun for about a week. Now it’s facing a deluge of privacy concerns.

    No kidding? Who would have guessed?

    1. “$park¥ is the Worst
      July.18.2019 at 10:02 am
      The fund is for first responders, not everyone who breathed some bad air.”

  25. More kids in the U.S. and Britain would rather be YouTubers than astronauts.

    We can put a man on the moon but we can’t monetize the moon.

  26. Demands for the resignation of Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló have grown louder.

    This better not be a Black Ariel situation, Britschgi.

  27. The House has killed a renegade attempt to impeach Trump…

    SEND. HIM. BACK.

    1. Traitors!! I thought Trump is a Nazi. How can they kill an attempt to save America?

    2. Red Rover….?

  28. Rand Paul: This is an incredibly stupid hill to die on. Why would you waste any political capital on this?

    1. Not really. It is a chance to propose cutting spending in specific areas to fund 9/11 victims.

      I can’t think of a better chance to kill something.

      1. +100

      2. Seems like a quick way to give your adversaries ammunition to defeat you in the next primary. I would like Paul to remain in congress. Cutting this fund would mean absolutely nothing to our budget. Unless we’re talking about social security, medicare/medicaid and military spending… we are not talking about reducing spending in any meaningful way.

        This is a stupid hill to die on.

    2. Doesn’t Rand do that for every bill making kind of a bs show boating by Stewart

  29. FaceApp—a smartphone application that adds years and beards to users’ selfies—was innocent fun for about a week.

    It’s all fun and games until Ivan gets your CGI crow’s feet.

  30. These sex links are terrible.

    1. Worst porn room ever!!

  31. “Berkeley bans natural gas in new buildings, the first U.S. city to do so”
    […]
    “BERKELEY — Keeping its reputation of leading the country in environmental policies, Berkeley is banning natural gas in new buildings starting next year, becoming the first city in the country to do so.”
    https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/07/17/berkeley-bans-gas-piping-in-new-buildings/

    Leading the country in high heating costs, more accurately.

    1. Any chefs here? Is it possible to run a restaurant using electric ranges?

      1. I doubt any new restaurant buildings are being built in Berkeley.

      2. Wait for 10 minutes to get water to boil?? Umm, no.

    2. Berkeley doesn’t need heat.

    3. thats so f’ing stupid but it fits with the plans for the electricity companies to cut power every time there is a little wind. this is how socialist control the citizens by controlling the energy they use. Look at all the third world shithole companies they are always “loosing” power. Welcome to California the new shithole third world state. BTW this is why I don’t like the grid energy system to easy to control the entire country.

    4. Berkeley is also renaming “manholes” to “maintenance holes” to eliminate gender bias.

      A bunch of confused utility guys will be confused looking for “manholes” to preform maintenance.

      Fun fact: Very few women work as utility workers.

  32. “Libertarian-leaning folks like Paul want less spending, lower taxes, and smaller deficits. ”

    Name one democrat doing the same thing.

    1. But unlike the Republicans, the Democrats mean well. And that is all that matters

      /sarc

      1. >>>less spending, lower taxes, and smaller deficits

        (R) doesn’t want this anymore either if it ever did

        1. I disagree. I think they still WANT it, they’ve just been shown by the Democrats and their base that you catch more voters by plying them with “free” stuff, paid for by “the government.” Therefore, the Republicans just don’t actually DO anything about it…it would hurt them with bribable voters in the next election…

          1. >>>just don’t actually DO anything about it

            saying same thing here … if want, would do.

        2. That tax cut must have been a figment of my imagination…. or was it just pennies? Eh, who cares right?

  33. Why are we paying millions in damages for 9/11 healthcare? Why not just give them access to the VA system? Surely that would be cheaper.

    1. Fuck that. Then these freeloaders will overwhelm medical care for veterans causing even more VA death panels.

    2. The firemen and policeman of NYC have one of the best gold-plated health insurance plans in America. If a policeman gets cancer, his health insurance plan will cover the expenses. I’m confused as to why this fund exists.

  34. “”•More kids in the U.S. and Britain would rather be YouTubers than astronauts.””

    Is this what winning the culture war that Rev Hate keeps speaking of looks like?

  35. “You may shoot me with your words,
    You may cut me with your eyes,
    You may kill me with your hatefulness,
    But still, like air, I’ll rise.

    -Maya Angelou https://t.co/46jcXSXF0B

    — Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) July 18, 2019″

    She’s not a victim of a racist society. She’s an over-privileged politician. Fuck her and every other politician in Washington.

    1. Maybe Trump will nickname her “Airhead Omar”?

  36. >>>attacks on “Squad” member

    just stop w/the moniker bullshit

    also I see Jonah Goldberg can’t figure out how to not be haughty on twitter so that’s funny.

  37. >>>Montana Gov. Steve Bullock

    here come the Sex Pistols?

  38. Iran state TV: Iranian forces seize foreign oil tanker, crew

    reason does not think high-seas piracy is a big deal, I guess.

    Too local.

    Obama gave pallets of cash to criminals.

    1. “Obama gave pallets of cash to criminals.”

      (sigh) It was their own money. Part of a successful deal, according to the EU and Russia, who are also parties to the deal, and BOTH say Trump lied and fucked up by breaking it … the first of Trump’s unbroken chain of foreign policy debacles.

      Making deals requires that both parties have something to gain. DUH. That’s not weak, except to bullies, thugs and despots.

      Let us know when Trump cuts a deal… including the EU, Russia and China. (lol)

      1. Yea and Iran listened so well they had rockets built in 14 days… I want to believe in the NAP but most who do are gullible losers ready to open wide

        1. Do you have anything even remotely relevant to what I said?

          Do you REALLY deny it was their own money, which had been seized? AND from more than just the United States?

          “Let us know when Trump cuts a deal… including the EU, Russia and China. (lol)”

      2. Why did it have to be cash, instead of a bank transfer?

        1. Why do you ask? Or are you as ignorant of deal-making as Trump is.

          Cash allows instant acceptance by both sides. duh
          Not everyone has such total trust as you do, in Obama.

  39. “And while it’s true that Paul voted for a deficit-increasing tax cut, he has also consistently introduced legislation to cut spending across the board. Just last month, the Senate rejected a budget plan authored by Paul that would have cut federal spending by $183 billion in the coming fiscal year.”

    Rand’s typical bullshit (like his father’s) saw him screeching about the deficits … while approving a tax cut which added twice as much debt.

    “Libertarian-leaning folks like Paul want less spending, lower taxes, and smaller deficits. The senator has a record of supporting all three policies, even though the rest of Congress seems only able to muster support for one.”

    OMFG
    How does one support smaller deficits … by supporting unpaid tax cuts?

    Back when libertarians were … libertarian … we’s never say anything so totally ignorant of elementary economics and elementary school arithmetic. NEVER claim that unpaid tax cuts are “keeping more of our own money.” We knew (and taught) that that is stealing our own children’s money … without their vote or consent, as first attacked by … Thomas Jefferson.

    Is this why the libertarian brand is rejected by 91% of libertarians (Per Cato’s survey?)

    Liberals borrow trillions to pay for free stuff.
    Faux conservatives and faux libertarians borrow trillions to pay for free tax cuts.

    Oh, the shame.

    1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano saw “Paul” and had an immediate spergout.

      1. I’ll try to dumb it down.

        $500 Tax Revenue
        – 600 Government Spending
        =100 deficit

        After $50 tax cut. (SOME will need a calculator!)

        $450 Tax Revenue
        – 600 Government spending
        =150 Deficit

        Now… is a $150 deficit worse than a $100 deficit? To you and the Paulistas?

        Why is that NOT a tax increase on Rand’s own children and grandchildren (and on yours)?

        And; thanks for proving my point!

        Liberals borrow trillions to pay for free stuff.
        Faux conservatives and faux libertarians borrow trillions to pay for free tax cuts.

        Oh, the shame.

        Anything else?

        1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano thinks he’s making a point, proves that he can’t see the name “Paul” without sperging out.

          Next he’ll link to his own stupidity as proof of his idiocy.

        2. revenue went up not down

          1. WOODCHIPPER SAYS THE TAX CUT SHOULD BE EVEN MORE!!!
            Does he also believe the federal government taxes and spends less than $1,000 each? (He’d have to believe that!)

            Who else is proud that Trump’s GOP has already added motre new 8-year debt than Obama added AFTER 8 years ?

            Who else was dumb enough to believe Trump’;s bat-shit crazy bullshit campaign promise to pay off the ENTIRE debt in the same 8 years?

            Progressives borrow trillions, to “pay for” free stuff.
            Conservatives borrow trillions to “pay for” free tax cuts.
            BOTH steal from their own children, both with supreme self-righteousness, as eager tools of the ruling class.

    2. Fuck you, cut spending. The federal government keeps setting new records for tax collections. There is no revenue problem, there is a SPENDING problem, you microcephalic jackass.

      -jcr

      1. (smirk) Deficits are caused by more spending than revenue. THUS … elementary school arithmetic SHOULD tell you they can be reduced or eliminated by
        a) taxing more OR
        b) spending less
        c) OR a combination .

        Liberals borrow trillions to “pay for” free stuff.
        Conservatives borrow trillions to “pay for” free tax cuts.
        Then they each brainwash their own puppets, and send them out into the world to spread their bullshit.

        That’s why God invented libertarians … instead God unleashing a second flood … to eliminate the moral atrocities which again prevail.

  40. And while it’s true that Paul voted for a deficit-increasing tax cut

    TAX CUTS DON’T CAUSE DEFICITS YOU MORONIC SHITSACK! SPENDING CAUSES DEFICITS!

    Seriously, how many goddamn times does it take before you assholes grasp this fact?

    1. lol. perfect question.

      1. How TOTALLY fucking stupid can two people be????
        SCARY.

        1. Look in the mirror and you’ll have the answer, Dumbfuck Hihnsano.

          1. Now three of them!,

            1. You mean the three times you have me on your Enemies List, Dumbfuck Hihnsano?

        2. Ask your mom and dad. They produced you, after all.

          -jcr

          1. Any more right-wing psychos say we can eliminate ALL taxes tomorrow … not cut a dime of sending. … without increasing the deficit?

            (Just as gullible as the puppets controlled by Bernie and Elizabeth!)

            1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano REEEEEEEEEs into the void that is his empty skull and friendless life.

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  44. This asshat waits til the most opportune time for headlines to display his stupidity. Gladly voted for the tax scam that put 2 trillion more onto the debt without care.

    He’s a fake, dishonest “libertarian” that is a granstanding asshat.

    1. He inherited it. Goobers BELEEB that such tax cuts “allow me to keep my own money” …. totally ignorant that it’s money stolen from their children! As gullible as Berniebots and Elizabethbots,
      And no better than AOC!!!

      1. Wearingshit and Dumbfuck Hihnsano, two spergs of a feather, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEing together.

  45. Billions upon billions. Where is this money really going?

  46. “And while it’s true that Paul voted for a deficit-increasing tax cut”

    No it’s not. Reason is right to call for an honest conversation, but that starts with knowing that tax cuts don’t add to the deficit.

    And if you want that 9/11 money to be there in 70 years, you better have that conversation about spending choices now.

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