Activists Want a Problematic Mural of George Washington Destroyed. It Will Cost a High School $600,000.
The artist wanted students to learn about Washington's flaws. How traumatizing.

A high school in San Francisco is considering three options for censoring a mural of George Washington deemed problematic by the local activist community: putting up a curtain (price tag: $300,000), painting over it ($600,000), or hiding it behind panels ($875,000).
No doubt San Francisco United School District could hire quite a few teachers in lieu of executing even the cheapest of those plans, but a 13-member working group asserts the mural must go. It "glorifies slavery, genocide, colonization, manifest destiny, white supremacy, oppression," and "doesn't represent SFUSD values of social justice, diversity, united, student-centered." It's also responsible for traumatizing students, according to the activists.
The truth is that George Washington High School's mural is provocative by design. It was painted in 1936 by a Russian-American artist named Victor Arnautoff, who held leftist sympathies. Arnautoff did not wish to blindly celebrate Washington while ignoring the less savory aspects of the American founding, and thus he depicted the first president working his slaves and sending men to confiscate Native American lands. It was an attempt to remind students that history is a lot messier than what they read in class.
"He put those ghastly gray pioneers literally walking over the dead body of an Indian to demonstrate that the settlement of the west was an act of conquest that involved the slaughter of Native Americans," Robert Cherny, a San Francisco State University professor, told the school district's board of education in 2018. "That was a very bold effort on his part to counter the kinds of textbooks that students were seeing."
Modern activist culture, however, is preoccupied with an ever-expanding definition of safety, which now includes emotional safety. To walk past a mural that depicts violence against Native Americans and people of color—even if that's what actually happened—is considered trauma-inducing, and the purpose of education is to mitigate discomfort. (This is a major theme of my new book, Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump, which was released this week and is available in book stores and online.)
"Why do we have to explain the pain caused by the visual offense that we see in that building that is supposed to be an institution for learning?" asked one woman at a public meeting about the issue on Tuesday.
"It's not in a museum, it's inside a school," lamented another speaker, who apparently did not understand the point of a school. "Our students, all of them, deserve better."
Other speakers, several of them Native American, expressed no objection to the mural, correctly pointing out that it was depicting "what actually happened."
According to National Review's James Sutton, most of the students want to keep the mural, or don't really care one way or another. The controversy is the work of "outside busybodies." Naturally, it looks like they are going to get their way. The school board is currently deciding between three different plans, all of which involve destroying the mural, or covering it up. A final decision is expected next week, reports The College Fix.
By the way, if you're wondering why it would cost several hundred thousand dollars to get rid of the mural, here's your answer: Officials are required to conduct environmental impact reports before they take any action.
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Quickest to defuse the situation? Get a conservative group to advocate for the mural's removal because it makes people doubt America's exceptionalism. Guaranteed crickets from the SJWs going forward.
By Jove, sir, you're a genius!
But to my knowledge, there's only one right-winger in San Francisco and he posts here are "sevo."
No wonder Sevo has nerves of steel!
I have a cheaper option. Spend about $20k to hire some Pinkerton to beat the living shit out of the local activist group.
Problem solved, and much mirth to be had by so many. Beating dirty hippies is it’s own reward.
Cheaper still: Look the other way while graffitists slowly graffiti it over.
Damn, I enjoyed that comment, Lastoftheshitferbrains.
It only took about a million attempts, but you actually wrote something that wasn't completely Trumperifically retarded.
Everything I say is brilliant. It’s just you. Although, to be fair, you get one right here and there yourself.
Honestly, at this point, you joke but we're at that point.
You sometimes have to beat bullies up.
Yup.
I think ANTIFA thugs should be beat within an inch of their lives 100% of the time when they attack people. If you allow bullies to get away with shit, they will only become more bold.
The reason the left has got so out of control is because sane people have been humoring their dumb ideas for decades to be "nice" to them. That shit needs to stop.
Hand all of them a ticket on Pinochet Airlines.
There's nothing quite like a nice helicopter ride!
Especially if it's free of charge. You don't have to pay until you return from your trip!
I would give commies free helicopter rides for sure... Commies like "free" stuff right???
Pretty much, though an even cheaper option would involve volunteers. Might even be able to raffle off positions in the goon squad.
1) $600,000 to paint over a mural?! I'd bid $500,000 to do it.
2) God, how I hate the term "problematic" as a euphemism for "politically incorrect". Speak for yourselves, I see no problem.
If only the activists had to personally pay for the damage they do.
If only bad cops had to personally pay for the damage they do.
If only people could choose their government, or no government, and were personally liable for its damages.
Good old Spooner - but the Spooner who garbled his words was funnier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoonerism#Etymology
Like I said a few weeks ago when this was linked by one of our HnR commenters, I can't think of a more appropriate fate for the work of a protégé of that commie twat Diego Rivera than to be memory-holed by fellow leftists.
And hell, I'd paint over the damn thing for a mere $300,000.
Does that cover the cost of the permits, impact study, ect?
""Officials are required to conduct environmental impact reports before they take any action."'
Ha! I didn't see this until just now. I was joking about the impact study in my post. But CA delivers.
Was there a sarcasm tag at the end of that clause?
I'd be sure to do the job at night and be out of the state before sunrise. Cash payment up front.
With my airless sprayer I could easily knock that job out in less than two hours. For less than a thousand, plus $299,000 for the environmental impact study.
It is really true. It is a shitty painting. I hate to see any art destroyed but this time perhaps justice demands it.
Honestly, I think from an artistic standpoint, it's fantastic. There's a lot of really distinctive, iconic artwork that came out of the WPA during that period, and even though I despise the underlying, disingenuous political message of most of it, I think it's worth preserving for historic, cultural, and aesthetic reasons. The push to get it "cleansed" is fucking retarded, even if I disagree with the one-sided argument it's making.
To me, it's just appropriate that the left is once again eating its own now that it's ideologically cleansed its immediate surroundings of anything hinting of "right-wing" thought. It shows the pathological addiction these people have to being underdogs, even when they completely dominate the surrounding social and cultural environment.
I'd take WPA commie propaganda, which was at least grounded in a lot of classical art principles and managed to thread a message of optimism within its critical themes, over the degenerate, nihilistic artwork trends that have been a hallmark of the post-war decades. The mural in the same school that went up in 1968, for example, is really nothing more than a banal "Fuck YT" piece that's come to dominate leftist ideology in recent decades and has become increasingly derivative and self-referential.
You're 150 years old, aren't you, RedRocksRetard.
What was Millard Fillmore like?
Ask your mother, No Balls Penalty.
George Washington was offered absolute power - for life - and had the incredible strength of character to turn it down, He also would have won a 3rd (and 4th, and 5th) term as POTUS by near acclimation, and also turned that down. Which is antithetical to everything the commie scum hold dear, so no wonder they wanted to do a number on him
George Washington was offered absolute power
Surely not by the people over whom he would wield that power.
Those people never count.
No, but I have it on good authority that at various times, Washington turned down an offer By Galactus to wield the power cosmic, and later, the Infinity Gauntlet.
So there’s that.
Actually yes. He was essentially offered the presidency for life. If he had taken it, our government would resemble Europe's much more, with some heads of state ruling for decades. One of the greatest things about American politics is that no matter how much you hate the president, just wait a few years and he will be out.
POTUS by near acclimation
Acclamation. If he'd have won it by near acclimation, it would mean he'd have won by almost adjusting to the surrounding climate.
He also did not want any statues or paintings of him & his glories!
If the artist wanted to capture the whole Truth, he would've depicted Washington's slaves being freed upon his death & being taught to read & get further educated!
So let me see if I understand this. They want to pull down a left wing mural that depicts America’s founders as evil white imperialists, and wealthy left-wing San Franciscans will have to pay a whole lot of money for it.
Where do I sign up?
Right? I can't see how the commies don't love this. They're ALL ABOUT shit talking the Founders. This should be right up their alley.
I think this is late stage postmodernism. They're so crossed up on their non-logic that they are unable to continue connecting the dots.
It would appear so. That's the thing that always got me about leftists... Their own internal logic doesn't even hold up. Their views all contradict each other. It's fine to have an entire web of constructed views that are wrong, but work with each other... It's dumb, but I get it. Having views that all contradict each other is just WTF. Low IQ/emotional thinking at its best I guess.
How much wall space are we talking about here? $600,000 is a lot of paint. I want to know where that estimate came from because I'll bet there is someone out there willing to do it for less.
If you really did want to know where that estimate came from, you'd've RTFA.
I see time frames and environmental impact studies mentioned, but estimate per square foot isn't anywhere
The estimates smell like BS to me - i.e. "please-don't-make-us-do-this" prices.
The cost of the actual painting would be an order of magnitude less than that, at most. I also have a hard time believing an EIR would actually be required since the mural is indoors. At most the report would say "the mural wouldn't be there anymore, which some people may not like."
What's also striking is that the estimate for a curtain is half what the estimate for paint is, which makes no sense. You can just have someone come in and paint, but a curtain is going to need an attachment detail designed by a licensed structural engineer and stamped by the State Architect - those prices seem exactly backward.
One caveat is that SFUSD (an institution I have myself worked for and bid construction jobs at) has an unbelievably onerous bid process and a pretty constricted construction market, so they tend to pay inflated prices for absolutely everything.
But at root, I don't think these estimates are real - they're inflated, wild-ass guesses intended to scare people.
The estimates smell like BS to me – i.e. “please-don’t-make-us-do-this” prices.
That's very likely. I'm somewhat surprised that one of the local SF art or history museums hasn't stepped in to say that they'll extract the mural, in sections, and add it to their collection. The cost to cut out the plaster without damaging the artwork would be higher than even what's being quoted to paint it over, since a contractor would have to restore the wall, but it's still an iconic work of art.
I’m somewhat surprised that one of the local SF art or history museums hasn’t stepped in to say that they’ll extract the mural, in sections, and add it to their collection.
That's an interesting idea. If a private non-profit did it, it might not even have to go through public contract code. Might save money, in the end. Might even be able to patch the wall back using the same details and avoid plan review.
They won't do that, though. I have yet to meet anyone at SFUSD who doesn't work exclusively off of flow charts and checklists.
The EIR would consists solely of 'this paint has been certified by so and so IH lab tech to not contain lead paint or asbestos'.
an hours worth of work by the tech - including driving time - and a $500 fee.
an hours worth of work by the tech – including driving time – and a $500 fee.
So, $20K?
Only 20k? You must be new at this.
The last paragraph is worth the price of admission. Don’t forget to wear your hazmat suits and FR to paint a mural.
That's a general description, I was looking for something more similar to what I would give a home owner when giving an estimate, separated by line item. A bottom line number and a few general details regarding local regulations tells me nothing.
I think I need to move to California and start an Environmental Impact Survey Delivery business.
I think I need to move to California and start an Environmental Impact Survey Delivery business.
It's awful. Don't do it.
Victor Arnautoff wanted to educate, the students want to destroy.
Some other reports I've read indicated that the majority of the students wanted it to stay or didn't care one way or another; there were outside agitators, however. It would be kind of a refreshing change of pace when students weren't the cause.
Don't blame the students, they don't care one way or the other. Blame whoever decided it was important for a "value" of the school district to be social justice.
Blame whoever decided it was important for a “value” of the school district to be social justice.
I.e. voters through their representatives on the school board.
Proving that Pinochet had the right idea.
It's not ALWAYS the right time to have a Pinochet in power... But it's not always NOT the time to have a Pinochet in power...
>>>It's also responsible for traumatizing students
someone explain how inanimate object verbs, please and thank you
"Exist" is a verb. Do you think inanimate objects can't exist?
debatable. do you believe they can traumatize?
What if it was animated? Like those kids books where you pull the tab and Georgie's arm moves to stab an Indian?
totes terrifying then.
a (reported) chick snapped at me back when chat rooms and dial up internets were a thing that Frisco was a town in Texas ... nice person
ZOMG, I want a book like that so bad now!
Also are you not traumatized by the inanimate fecal matter littering the streets of Frisco?
I would, but I'm too busy chasing my refrigerator. It runs, you see.
better catch it.
It "glorifies slavery, genocide, colonization, manifest destiny, white supremacy, oppression," and "doesn't represent SFUSD values of social justice, diversity, united, student-centered." It's also responsible for traumatizing students, according to the activists.
This is fucking retarded. It is a painting depicting life in another time period. It doesn't "glorify" anything. It is art.
Acknowledging a thing existed is glorifying it according to the woke. Bad things in history must never be mentioned again.
At least not without unambiguous denunciations.
* "art"
Look, everything that is not forbidden is compulsory.
A curtain would cost $300,000? What the fuck would it be made of, solid gold?
And to think, leftists can't understand why normal people don't want the government controlling the economy.
If that is truly what they believe, that right there is probably the most ridiculous thing I will read all day.
Geometry proofs, anyone?
Six-foot-eight, weighs a fucking ton.
These children must be British.
six foot TWENTY fucking killing for fun
Now you can’t even criticize “slavery, genocide, colonization, manifest destiny, white supremacy, oppression," without glorifying them?
So when the “activists” criticize police violence they’re actually glorifying it. And the left has really been praising Trump this whole time?
Why don’t they do an environmental, and economic, impact study on stupidity and political extremism?
I can do that study, for $150,000.
Got that beat. I can do it for $2.3 million, plus overruns.
You have to think like the govt. here.
curtain (price tag: $300,000)
Where the hell are they getting this curtain? Restoration Hardware?
That US military supplier with the $2,000 commode seats.
$600K to paint over it?
I will do it for $100K.
"...To walk past a mural that depicts violence against Native Americans and people of color—even if that's what actually happened—is considered trauma-inducing, and the purpose of education is to mitigate discomfort..."
Do modern text books have blank pages where the history of, say, the French reign of terror used to be covered? The world wars?
BTW, turns out National Lampoon was but a harbinger...
By their statement of the working group, the SF school district does not value readable English.
there are not many people left in SF that speak English heck for that matter any place from Sacramento south
I wonder why this wasn't covered up back in the day, in pre-woke San Francisco. Wouldn't there have been a DAR chapter or something to object to the insults against Washington?
My best guess would be that they saw the mural, said "crappy picture, maybe if I ever have time to spare I'll say something," then they forgot about it.
In contrast, the SJWs always have time to spare and have long memories when it's convenient.
"Our students, all of them, deserve better."
"We are therefore inviting all of them to watch the 13-member working group commit seppuku."
According to the World Socialist Web Site, of all places, SFUSD deliberately stacked the group with mural opponents so it would get a pre-determined recommendation. The group also only had one member who was an actual alumni of the school, who naturally wanted the murals to stay up.
San Francisco sucks! You can never find a taxicab. Every asshole in the city jaywalks. Yuppies! Dot-commers! Twinkies! It's a fucking fruit farm! Nut-butter heaven. A silly symphony in Q, for query! Delivery trucks are always double-parked. There is virtually no street parking. The curbs are so high – fucking buttes! – I've fallen off them! Women who for the cant of the hills are unable to wear heels tend to run not because they're late but because it is too steep to walk normally! Every goddamn spot in the city is either uphill or down, so every human with a head is geometrically formalized at a steep angle like begoggled Harold Lloyd hanging from the hands of a clock! Who is surprised that the Mission District was created by pushing rubble into the bay? Rush-hour there is insane—a traffic-controller's nightmare. Staggered traffic lights are always red when you get to them, and so with endless combination of restricted left turns and one-way streets you have to drive for hours to get anywhere not straight ahead of starboard! It's the devil's chessgame! It's next to impossible to turn south, for if you get north of Market Street above Union Square and take a wrong turn, you can never get back!
Word.
Well, I guess that's Theroux's way of trying to look at the bright side.
Just another argument for disposing of the progtards and all their progtardedness. Or is it progtardery?
Either way, scrape them off.
Bumfuckville Alabama has practically no rush-hour traffic, I hear.
Wouldn’t know. I live in the NW. thankfully, not in Seattle or Portland. They’ve really gotten stuck on stupid anymore.
Says the mouth breathing Okie retard.
Can you imagine how NICE a place to live SF would be if it were filled with sane people from the midwest or south? It would almost be heaven on earth... Again. Like it was when my grandpa grew up there.
Aggressive bicyclists! Human poop everywhere! People who say "literally" in literally every sentence! Also, the girls are not that cute, except for the Asians. There I said it.
I'll do it for $20k, all inclusive.
Figure a couple days to drive out there, a day to sand the thing down, and a couple days to put up a couple coats of white paint . . .
Don't forget to figure in the certification classes, the sanding inspection, the paint testing, the paint inspection for each coat, the final walk-through and punchlist, the multiple training sessions on how to clean the surface once it's painted, the warranties and bonds, the scheduling consultant, the superintendent, the project manager, the project administrator, and the trailer to house them all.
$600k may not be enough . . .
White paint. Nice.
RACISM!
It's almost the perfect San Francisco story. Just up to the point of parody, but not quite over the edge. Very well done SF progs!
One of the things I hate about my younger self was that back then I thought everything that happened before I was born all happened in some big amorphous 'before-time' that only spanned a few years.
Manifest Destiny wasn't a thing until a good 40 years after Washington's death. He had nothing to do with that idea.
And the irony is that the Manifest Destiny theme was inserted as a post-hoc criticism by Arnautoff.
Robbie, please ask your editor to put "problematic" in the appropriate scare quotes in future headlines.
Compromise:
The people who want to get rid of the mural get to pick the method and then completely fund the project with donated funds.
Once they have the funds, they can cover it up or remove it in a manner compliant with local, state, and federal regulations.
After that happens, EVERYONE has to shut up about it.
I like the way you think.
Once they have the funds, they can cover it up or remove it in a manner compliant with local, state, and federal regulations.
Keeping in mind that state law allows nearly endless lawsuits demanding environmental impact studies for everything under the Sun if someone is determined to stop somebody else from doing what they're planning on doing.
On a completely unrelated note, how would I go about establishing a legal fund for the purpose of filing nearly endless lawsuits demanding environmental impact studies for everything under the Sun against these activists demanding the removal of this mural?
This is so convoluted it's almost fun. But how does a coat of paint or a curtain cost six figures? I just did my entire dining room for half those figures.
How much paperwork did you have to file concerning the pre-painting inspections regarding the presence of asbestos, lead paint, or other materials known to the State of California to cause cancer, (hint: everything is known to the State of California to cause cancer), the dust-abatement program, the fume-hood installations, the union contract and the minority set-aside program compliance, the certification of non-GMO free-range fair-trade paint brushes, the permission of the historical landmark commission, and the 412 other forms you have to file to make sure your painting was unobjectionable to all the dozens of community activist groups whose main source of income is to object to every little goddamn thing anybody wants to do unless you "hire" a member of their group as a "consultant" for the project with a fat envelope full of cash?
Shit, was I supposed to do that?
Welcome to California.
If it really cost you $150K to redo your dining room, in Oklahoma, someone took you to the cleaners.
Or did you mean it only cost a few hundred bucks for some cans of paint and a few paint rollers?
Hundreds. I liked the furniture I had. Coat of paint and some new wall stuff.
You really are clueless eh?
Breakdown of $600,000 cost to paint over the mural:
1) $10,000 = labor and materials to paint over.
2) $590,000 = cost of environmental impact reports.
The modern state is about enriching apparatchiks.
Effective immediately, in order to be sure not to trigger SJWs, all American history now begins in 2008 (or maybe 1960).
No, no, no. You have to START it with Trump, because he's an evil white man. The story must begin with an evil white man.
[…] destiny, white supremacy, oppression,” and traumatizes students. Options include “putting up a curtain (price tag: $300,000), painting over it ($600,000), or hiding it behind panels …,” reports Reason. That includes an environmental impact […]
So today's leftist snowflakes want to, um, whitewash a previous leftist assholes interpretation of American history?
Isn't that ironical, as Allanis Morrissette might suggest.
Ironic = poetic justice. Or, what goes around eventually comes around. Wonder what the next turn around will be?
"A high school in San Francisco is considering three options for censoring a mural of George Washington deemed problematic by the local activist community: putting up a curtain (price tag: $300,000), painting over it ($600,000), or hiding it behind panels ($875,000).
...
By the way, if you're wondering why it would cost several hundred thousand dollars to get rid of the mural, here's your answer: Officials are required to conduct environmental impact reports before they take any action.
"
They buried the lede. This is a sign of how far we've descended into #ClownNation.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars enriching apparatchiks to do environmental impact studies before painting a wall.
Honk, honk!
+1
This story is all kinds of fucked up.
If it wasn't for George Washington there would not be a San Francisco (at least as we know it now) for there to be a high school to have a mural in.
Well there would be a San Francisco but it would be a part of Mexico so George Washington would not be on it nor would they have the freedoms that they do now!
San Franciscan leftists don't care for the study of history. As long as they deem it offensive (which is literally everything that has ever happened anywhere) they will demand its removal. It's not that they just don't like history, no, they try to CHANGE history to propagate their own demented schemes.
Hey man, if we hadn't stolen all that Magic Dirt from Mexico, it would be the richest and most powerful country on earth! But evil Anglos stole it all from the nice Hispanics, and only left them with a ton of super valuable land that DIDN'T have magic dirt... So they're poor and dysfunctional.
In other words GEORGE WASHINGTON BAD.
Jesus. Some days I really just can't even. How in gods name can something like this even be real? We really are living in clown world. The worst part of all is the $600K to slap paint over the top thing. It's just unbelievable. I don't know how big the thing is, but there is no way in hell it should be more than a grand in paint + labor.
I hate having not been born like 50-100 years earlier.
Better make it close to 200.
I think 50-100 was a nice combination of things. There were more modern conveniences, higher standard of living, etc... But things hadn't really got very bad. One was surely freer in 1800 than in 1900, but 1900 wasn't bad freedom wise... And you had telephones, cars, the light bulb etc already in their infancy, and a million other awesome things about to come into being.
That era really was the golden era of civilization in a lot of way. Now COULD BE if we ever got government in line. We'll see...
declare it a historical monument so it can't be destroyed. Let them move the school instead. Hiding from and destroying history doesn't eliminate the truth. We have created a monstrosity generation that will one day be in charge, like the hippies of the 60's are in charge now (i.e. the left). We're doomed..
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[…] sparin’ ’em ain’t cheap: Reason Magazine reports the school system will meet next week to discuss three options for ruining — I mean, […]
$600,000 to paint over it?
No debate there, I want to win the bid on that contract.
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How about if they make George Washington a black guy? Much cheaper and the mural can stay.
Not a one of you or your lame off-spring have half the balls George Washington did.
I suggest that someone grab the kids who find the mural or whatever scary or whatever and smash their faces into it. Call it the tree of liberty being watered by fucked faces.
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I have a better solution.
I'll drive over to Spokane and do it for one tenth the price quoted. Pay me Ten K up front, as I'll have to rent some equipment, establish a base, etc for the job. The other $50K in hand once its done.
It always amazes me how government can spend ten times what it should take toget anything done. I guess those firteen stupidvisors still need to eat, though, don't they? Funny thing, most of em look like they eat plenty well, and often.
It's the apparatchiks and lawyers that eat up the budget.
California. Quelle Surprise.
German rabble rose up recently, outraged at the idea of naming a train Anne Frank. During all this the train named Martin Luther zipped from burg to burg unmolested by hate screech.
Martin Luther was actually an important human being... Anne Frank was a random girl whose father most likely greatly embellished, or completely made up, a diary and published it after she died. I get the sentiment and all, but there's no comparing the 2. It's like comparing Val Kilmer to George Washington in terms of historical importance... Tombstone was a cool movie bro, and he had his day in the sun... But Val is simply not of much relevance compared to George Washington.
Yes, let's erase history and start all over. Unfortunately, there are not enough caves to house every activist numbskull.
[…] to an article by Robby Soave at Reason Magazine, the San Francisco Unified School District will meet next week, not to discuss if they should […]
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^^^YUP^^^^
It's all true.
Personally, I think Asians are the only ones that could give us a run for our money. They were legit ahead at different points... But 99.9% of the time in human history, the most advanced society on earth was either in Europe or Asia, with maybe a few brief moments where it was the Middle East.
I think what made us tromp Asia was mainly 2 things: Capitalistic ideas, and the concept of the scientific method. Once east Asia lifted those 2 ideas from us, they've been giving us a good run for our money.
Anytime somebody brings up cultural appropriation though, I always bust out "Well stop wearing clothing designed by my ancestors, give up your phone, toilet, the internet, car..." etc etc etc. Because it's all true. White men have done almost everything of any importance in the world., Asian men come in a distant 2nd, and everybody else is so far behind them it's not even funny.