George Mason Students Want Visiting Professor Brett Kavanaugh Fired Over Sexual Misconduct Allegations
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted."

George Mason University's Antonin Scalia Law School has hired Associate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh to teach a course for students studying abroad in England next summer. Some GMU undergraduate student activists want Kavanaugh's appointment rescinded, due to the sexual misconduct allegations made against him during his confirmation hearings.
These students are framing the issue as one of safety. George Mason, they say, will be an unsafe place if someone like Kavanaugh is affiliated with it.
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted," student Elijah Nichols tells WDVM. Nicholas also accuses the university's president of disregarding students' safety and well-being.
A change.org petition with more than 2,000 signatories calls on George Mason University to cancel Kavanaugh, change its practices around the gender equality law Title IX, and issue a formal apology to survivors. The Twitter feed of Survivors 4 Mason, the activist group organizing opposition to Kavanaugh, has retweeted several students who chided the school for being lenient to Kavanaugh.
George Mason President Angel Cabrera has thus far rebuffed the activist demands that he step in and override the law school's decision. Indeed, it would be insane to deny students the opportunity to learn from a member of the Supreme Court due to these allegations, at least some of which seem quite dubious in hindsight. It's also hard to see how Kavanaugh's presence actually impacts any current student's safety.
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A change.org petition with more than 2,000 signatories
Gives a number of reasons why students want college to be free.
Can we stop making change.org a thing?
Not in the selfie age.
It would be trivially easy for so-called journalists to stop citing it as if it was some form of valuable information.
Why they won't, speaks for itself...
Journalists are not statisticians.
2,000 people out of 200 million US adults is 0.001% of the population.
Not very democratic, eh?
Let's start a petition on change.org to shut down change.org.
This is the avenue the petitioners, whoever they are, chose. How is not not relevant?
I'd prefer that reporters get their information from bathroom graffiti.
I'm sure there are more than 2000 requests written on bathroom walls that are every bit as relevant.
One of the accusations was from when they were 16 and none of the people at the party can corroborate it. The second accusation was from a woman who was shit-faced at a frat party and somebody whipped their dick out and she's not even sure it was him. The third accusation came from Michael Avenatti and was blatantly false at face value, and she eventually abandoned the claim.
Fuck the media. Fuck academia.
They really are the enemy of the people.
I don't even like Kavanaugh. He was one of the worst people from the list of judges Trump chose from, but the way the press covered it was full-blown propaganda fake news so I get the desire to defend him.
Ditto all that.
Yup.
I know I only wanted to ensure he was confirmed because if this was successful that'd be far more dangrerous than anything Kavenaugh could do on the court.
Yup. I would have much preferred someone else, but the precedent set by his being rejected because of very weak accusations of misconduct would be really bad.
Indeed, since we're all damn well aware that this tactic would only be deployed against Republican appointees, conservative or otherwise.
When you preclude constitutionalists from being on the Supreme Court, one might ask what the role of that body is intended to be. Fortunately, ex-Presidents like Woodrow Wilson make it clear what that role is. Essentially, their role is to rewrite the constitution without amendments.
And before someone says that Democrats could put a constitutionalist on the court, well, no offense but you're an idiot. The entire Democrat worldview is staunchly progressive at this point, and progressivism is anathema to constitutionalism.
@BYODB
I don't know, there have been a few Democrats that have fallen from power because of #metoo. Al Franken is the first that comes to mind.
For me, Kavanaugh wasn't disqualified by the allegations, but rather by the fact that he threw a tantrum in the Senate and lied to them about his past. It's okay to have been a partier in high school. I don't think you have to be shunned for the rest of your life just because you drunkenly tried to have sex with someone once, when they weren't into it. But this guy bawled in front of the Senate, whined that what was happening to him was officially the worst thing ever, and tried to protect his fake boy-scout story. And then he threatened to strike back.
I don't even like Kavanaugh. He was one of the worst people from the list of judges Trump chose from, but the way the press covered it was full-blown propaganda fake news so I get the desire to defend him.
So you recognize that the reaction is irrational, but you stick to it?
A competent and qualified judge who is innocent does not respond with anger to a public accusation of attempted rape? What lies did Kavanaugh tell about his past?
Yeah. He's a big stinky doo doo head.
There is one provable lie. That he did not drink illegally when he was 18. That was more or less proven false. Though estimates are that around 80% of high school students did so. I do not hold it against him defying what was widely considered to be an unfair law, but I do dislike that he was not honest about it.
The questions about slang in his high school yearbook were inappropriate and embarrassing to Congress, and the claims that he lied involve so many assumptions that they clearly fall into the "unprovable" camp.
As far as him getting angry. He was accused of attacking a woman. He was also assumed guilty despite having only half an accusation. We had a who and what but not where or when, which makes it completely impossible to disprove. This wouldn't hold up under any standard aside that of a lynch mob. He was then forced to endure a multi-hour interrogation about irrelevant facts as congresspeople went through his high school yearbook asking about slang. Any judge in history SHOULD be angry at the absurdity of the situation. In fact, I consider it appalling that the other Justices did not issue a statement expressing concern about the situation.
He never specifically made a claim about the legality of his drinking at age 18. He certainly didn't deny drinking when he was in high school. And while he said that when he was in high school there were seniors who were 18 and for whom the drinking age was 18 (which was true) he didn't specifically state that he was one of those seniors. It's worth noting that during the period when he was 18 and in high school, the drinking age in DC was still 18, so he certainly could have gone out drinking legally in DC during his senior year of high school.
Simon, you really are a piece of shit pretending to be an impartial thinker.
Oh Simple Simon, this old canard again. You truly are stuck on stupid. After the character assasination the treasonous democrat senators put him through, he should have had the right to duel each of them with pistols and outright kill them on the capitol steps. Just like in the old days.
That's how real men send to deal with mouthy lissants like you and your Marxist masters when they ran their mouths, like this. We do really need to go back to that.
This is total BS. So... a human being with entirely normal human reactions and flaws isn't qualified for the SCOTUS??? Every human being is not 100% honest all of the time, every single one. And every human being, except for maybe a few pychopaths, would be very upset if their reputation was assassinated. Maybe we should nominate a robot or an alien.
Your mother fucks border collies. If you get upset by that, it obviously means that it's true and you're a terrible person.
Makes just as much sense as that shit you wrote.
There were a third and fourth accusation from Avenatti.
Avenatti had two additional Declaractions dated 26 Sep 2018 signed by Julie Swetnick and 2 Oct 2018 with name redacted. The first declarant Swetnick did not stay on script with "her" declaration when interviewed by NBC. Then Avenatti posted the second 2 Oct declaration on Facebook which claimed the declarant knew and backed Ford and Swetnick in their claims with additional claims of her own. That declarant contacted NBC and told them that the posted declaration was not her words and that Avenatti was twisting her words.
According to Stormy Daniels, she dropt Avenatti after he could not account for funds raised by a crowdfunder he started in her name and he started a second crowdfunder without her permission. Avenatti filed a lawsuit in her name which she said she did not want.
Although our allies like Senator Feinstein did all they could, the inability to #CancelKavanaugh was probably the greatest failure of #TheResistance.
All is not lost, however. The next Democratic President should expand the Supreme Court to 11 or more members. Ideally we'll get at least 2 more libertarian-friendly RBG-style justices.
Isnt not locking him up the greater failure?
Hopefully this entire comment was satirical. Because if you're serious, it speaks poorly of your intelligence and/or education but certainly your knowledge of our Constitution. A President cannot expand the Supreme Court nor could Congress. It would, at the very least, require amending the Constitution.
Also, "libertarian-friendly RBG-style"? Ginsberg represents all that's wrong with this country today, and is about as far from libertarian as you can get without actually being named Joe Stalin. Fortunately, her age makes it likely that she won't survive the rest of Trump's term.
Actually, Congress has the power to set the number of Supreme Court justices. It's been as low as five and as high as 10, although neither for very long. It's been nine since 1869, and I think it'll be very difficult for Congress to change it now, since some conservative Democrats probably won't go along. Remember, FDR, despite majorities in both houses, couldn't pack the Court in 1937. It's hard to believe the current fractured Democratic party could manage it now.
There are conservative Democrats left in the senate?
That one guy from West Virginia, and that's it.
Good catch. Hopefully you're also correct in predicting the inability of the Congress to make the change.
It was satirical. OBL is a parody account.
"libertarian-friendly RBG-style justices."
Saves the big punchline for last. Nice.
I really cannot take anyone seriously who uses that "unsafe" mantra. And frankly, no one s responsible for providing anyone with happiness. That is not even rational expectation.
Save them from the wild, rampaging Kavanaugh!
There's more evidence Joe Biden has made women feel unsafe than Kavanaugh. Just sayin. Neither are sexual predators or dangers to anybody. Fuck these totalitarian assholes.
The democrat party tends to attract sexual predators, and sociopaths and psychopaths in general. Situational ethics and complete amorality will do that.
The Left always projects their crimes on the Right.
Every accusation from a Leftist is a confession.
Beware the creepy male feminist!
Politics tends to attract sexual predators, and sociopaths and psychopaths in general. Situational ethics and complete amorality will do that.
WoodChipperBob 4.5.19 1:46PM
Correct.
I really cannot take anyone seriously who uses that "unsafe" mantra.
I certainly feel like I should be able to challenge anyone who identifies as 'a survivor'. The number of people who use the phrase without realizing that it just points out their attacker's inadequacies rather than their own strengths is amazing.
Well, if you weren't a survivor, you'd be dead, no? I've always thought it was kind of weird too.
But I really don't have a problem if people want to think of themselves as survivors rather than victims. And we should all probably support that if we want to discourage the placement of victimhood above all else.
Yea, except there's seemingly an entitlement that goes along with survivorhood that may not accompany victimhood...or maybe not.
This may be another case where people falsely assume that the loudest voices are the most representative. I think that most rape victims/survivors do just want to get on with life and aren't looking for special privilege because of what they have suffered.
And we should all probably support that if we want to discourage the placement of victimhood above all else.
This assumes that my opposition to the placement of victimhood above all else is because it's spelled v-i-c-t-i-m-h-o-o-d. Otherwise, they could just spell it however they like and continue placing it above everything else in their life an character. The idea behind being a survivor is that you go on living and that life has value outside whatever specific incident you survived. You aren't just another body to be counted as a statistic.
The idea behind being a survivor is that you go on living and that life has value outside whatever specific incident you survived. You aren't just another body to be counted as a statistic.
Well, that seems like the right way to deal with a traumatic event psychologically, no?
Well, that seems like the right way to deal with a traumatic event psychologically, no?
Right and is kinda opposite of being a mindless shambling corpse uttering "I'm a survivor." ever time somebody mentions something that even remotely relates to whatever calamity you supposedly survived.
Well, if you weren't a survivor, you'd be dead, no?
I survived the Parkland shooting. How about you?
The survivor's name was "Elijah". Isn't that a dude's name?
Was Kavanaugh accused of assaulting a dude? Gimme a break.
Elijah is a gaping vagina, so...
Why is it that this type of "survivor" never feels survivor's guilt?
Because it would be absurd for them to do so in most cases? Isn't survivors guilt when someone feels guilty because they survived and others didn't?
These students are just wildly virtue signaling to the law profession at large that they are down with the current zeitgeist of perpetually victimized snowflakes ready to sue. It's a lawyer's paradise! Of course the lawyers are ready and willing to promote this victimhood mentality!
Really we just need to have Homeland Security classify the Americans Bar Association as a terrorist organization.
That would fix em!
These students are framing the issue as one of safety.
LOL
It's just the magic word for students. Cops have their magic words that absolve them of all responsibility, students have their own.
Hmm, they both seem to be "safety."
So, what, do they think that Kav is going to be roaming the campus looking for drunk girls to molest?
He might trigger psychology professors to remodel their house in order to add a second front door. With all the added duplexes, he might trigger a downturn in the housing market. As a survivor of the 2008 housing bubble, I think we really should keep him off campuses. (JIC:/sarc)
What this is really Akita's is him being guilty of being a conservative, a white man, and a Trump nominee.
Would you feel safer around Judge Kav, or Amy Klobuchar?
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted."
Cabrera's response should be, "He's teaching the course, if you don't like it then you're quite free to unenroll"
I'd prefer her response to be, "you're fucking pathetic and if you think for one second I'm going to cave to the demands of whiny brats you're out of your goddam fucking mind"
And, if I read it right, he is teaching the course an ocean away from the main [US] campus.
The charge of "unsafe" is nothing but a pathetic excuse for someone to get their way from a position of being nothing more than a whiny-assed little bitch.
You should sign my change.org petition. That's what I want Cabrera's response to be too.
http://chng.it/KqRywCfkPb
The correct response to a law student who wants to persecute a citizen on unfounded, obviously false allegations is, "you are not fit to practice law in a free society, and unfit to study law at GMU, you are expelled."
The only student identified by name is an undergraduate, not a law student.
Here's a GMU article from October that identifies him as a freshman:
http://gmufourthestate.com/201.....nd-action/
Dear Elijah,
If the presence of a Supreme Court judge makes you feel unsafe due to allegations made against him, it is clear you are not yet fit to interact with students and academics in a campus environment, nor would you be suited for work in the legal system. Arrangements will be made for your transfer to online only classes.
Warmest regards and kindly fuck off,
GMU
P.S. - Childbirth is exceedingly traumatic to the most fragile of human beings. We all survived it. Unless you hauled your oppressor to his prison cell himself or tore their still-beating heart from their chest with your bare hands, you aren't a survivor any more than any given pawn is a survivor at a game of chess. People survived Nazi Germany. You declaring yourself a survivor is bullshit.
They'd hire slick Willie in a heartbeat.
People that don't live near GMU may not know that GMU is a VERY CONSERVATIVE school. It was founded specially to be a conservative school. They named the law school after Anthony Scholia. It does provide a quality education and an affordable price, but these aren't a bunch of crazy liberals. So if students at this school are uncomfortable with Brett Kavanaugh on campus that says something.
Yeah, it says anyone can be as bat-shit crazy as the proggy kids.
You're probably right. Because GMU is "very conservative", every student that goes there must declare an oath to conservatism. Just like Berkeley where all students must be whackjob lefties.
Or it could be that these students are stupid regardless of whether the school is "conservative" or not.
Please tell us what the students' illogical arguments about Kavanaugh says!
It says law students should know you are innocent until proven guilty.
Actual GMU law professor here. First, only the economics and law school faculty lean conservative/libertarian, the rest of the university is just as liberal as your typical state college in a liberal part of the country. Second, law students haven't been protesting, these are undergrads.
Stop ruining liberals facts. It's their truth David. Respect their truth.
Look...it's not that I don't appreciate your comment, but this is the Internet. Unless you're an Instagram model or Hollywood celebrity, your "expert opinion" has no place here. Besides those social media heroes, the only comments I should see are the rantings of my ill-informed, ideological brethren.
I even find the idea of undergrads protesting like this disturbing. But I am a curmudgeon.
I like the idea of them protesting. But only because the logical extension of that idea is to bring in cops using them down with water cannons, shooting them with rubber bullets, and beating them with batons.
Every dirty hippie should learn it's place.
First, only the economics and law school faculty lean conservative/libertarian, the rest of the university is just as liberal as your typical state college in a liberal part of the country.
It's funny. When I hear someone say "[blah] is a VERY CONSERVATIVE school", I just assume they mean "well known economics/law/religious studies program" not "the majority of students, professors, and administrators are conservative."
It's the law students who should be protesting. Kavanaugh's performance during his confirmation hearing ruled out any possibility of an adequate judicial temperament. His presence on the Court results from overt partisanship in the appointment process. His remarks suggesting partisan revenge were disgraceful. Plenty for law students to protest.
"His presence on the Court results from overt partisanship in the appointment process."
Partisanship in a political process? Oh no!
"His remarks suggesting partisan revenge were disgraceful."
Why? He's not allowed to defend himself?
"Kavanaugh's performance during his confirmation hearing ruled out any possibility of an adequate judicial temperament."
How's he supported to react when he is accused of rape? If a female nominee were accused of exchanging sexual favors for her appointment, and got angry, I wonder how many people would be saying that she lacked judicial temperament? How do you think one of the female sitting justices would react if a lawyer arguing before her accused her of sexual impropriety?
Progtards expect cpsmervstices to act like punching bags for their abuse. Instead progtards should be beaten, or worse, for their impertinence. It's not like we want to beat and kill them. It's jiat that we owe it to them.
He is also likely a liar who perjured himself during his hearings for the appeals court.
likely a liar
Here come the spicy shitlib takes.
Your mother likely fucks border collies.
Question: how many of the 2,000 signatories on the change.org petition actually attend GMU?
How many could actually use a pen and sign a physical petition with their own name?
@ Olga: are you serious, or did I miss the pun?
GMU has 25000 undergrads. The school might be conservative by comparison to other universities but this says nothing about individual students. Your conclusion these speakers are conservative is unsupported and your assertion this means something is wrong.
"So if students at this school are uncomfortable with Brett Kavanaugh on campus that says something."
What does it say to you?
It says to me that there's a least one student at GWU that's an idiot. I suspect there's more....
It only takes one clueless proggie to start a petition. I'm pretty sure change.org isn't verifying the GMU enrollment status of of it's respondents.
So if students at this school are uncomfortable with Brett Kavanaugh on campus that says something.
That's true "if" the signers, or a large portion of them, are students at GMU. The petition itself does not assert that the signers are students.
it says that they have bought into the lies perpetrated by the far left. Not surprising, it IS a law school.
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted,"
Well, no. No one ever offered you a 'happy, safe place'.
Even Tony doesn't whine that the commentariat does not make him feel happy.
He does wine about having to provide for himself.
Yeah, and as far as I can tell Tony doesn't agree with this "safe space" shit in colleges either.
If they've lost Tony...
Indeed. In my 70-plus years of experience, "getting a good education" and "being in a happy safe place" are just about mutually exclusive.
I suppose there's a limited exception for those who think a "good education" means confirming what they already believe. Until reality teaches the lessons they should have learned.
Can just anyone set up a change.org petition? Could someone, for example, set up a petition calling on George Mason to smack down these intolerant bullies with their ludicrous claims of "feeling unsafe"?
Or maybe better, petition change.org itself to allow both yes and no votes on their petitions?
Why yes, anyone can. Here's my counter-petition:
http://chng.it/KqRywCfkPb
Has anybody noticed Robby's unnecessary and disingenuous virtue signaling in this piece?
If not, this is it:
"due to these allegations, at least some of which seem quite dubious in hindsight."
A writer, with any integrity, would not pen such progressive pablum. Yes, Robby's language is deferential to progressive precepts as his failure to assert that Ballsy Ford's allegations were not supported by any evidence whatsoever offers a lifeline to the proposition that the same were true.
Robby got hammered here for his assertions of credibility. for intelligent people it was dubious in foresight.
I was going to comment on that waffling passage.
It is waffling.
It's Kavanaugh's fault for not proving false the vague allegations.
I realize that this is meant as sarcasm, but it is the position that many have chosen to take. The problem is that it is fuzzy logic at best:
Absence of evidence and the evidence of absence: Absence of evidence is an ambiguous term. If it is absence from ignorance, in that no one has ever carefully studied the matter, then it means next to nothing. If it is absence despite careful empirical study done in-line with the scientific method, then the absence of evidence itself can be considered a type of scientific evidence. If we inspect the room over and over and there is never any mice in the room, we can conclude with a high degree of certainty from the absence of mice that the room is not infested with mice. Here absence of evidence (or "the evidence of absence despite our looking for it" more specifically) is a type of evidence. http://factmyth.com/factoids/y.....-negative/
Considering that this has been investigated by 1000s of reporters who have a vested interest in proving Kavanaugh a liar and the FBI, and not a single item in the allegations has been determined to be true, I believe the allegations to have been PROVEN false.
"Isn't it true that, four decades ago, on a nonspecific date at a nonspecific time at a nonspecific place, you sexually assaulted a woman?"
"No."
"Prove it."
"Prove what?"
"Prove that you didn't do it. I'm seeing a lot of holes in your story, Mr. Kavanaugh..."
"due to these allegations, at least some of which seem quite dubious in hindsight."
Seemed like politically motivated slander to me at the time but in hindsight Robby now finds some of it quite dubious.
I guess he's progressing like Joe Biden.
No statement prefaced by "As a [victim/marginalized/x survivor/whatever]..." deserves any consideration at all. Seriously. If what you say requires that you first be granted special status, or some privilege, I can't respect it, from the git go.
+ 10,000
Good response.
I don't know, I can think of a few cases such as:
As a survivor of a socialist dictatorship, I think we should ship all Bernie Sanders' supporters to Venezuela for a month...
And then they come back? Now I feel unsafe.
Too broad.
"As a victim of the Cultural Revolution, the behavior of these students reminds me of the Red Guards" seems like it would be worth taking seriously.
The key is that it requires that one have actually have had an extraordinary experience that is directly relevant; that one is not claiming special status, but rather on-point experience.
word.
"It's also hard to see how Kavanaugh's presence actually impacts any current student's safety."
Confronted with a principled, Conservative Supreme Court Judge that their Progressive Elders failed to lynch, their delicate little snowflake heads might explode.
So there really is no DOWN side, per se.
"Fire him" is clearly HATE SPEECH as per "lock her up", and "learn to code". It must be STAMPED OUT.
You forgot "all lives matter."
"on both sides"
Time for college administrators to start telling offended students to find another university to attend that doesn't offend them so much....
First you'd have to find an administrator who would be given to taking that particular position. If they aren't entirely sympathetic to the students' demands, they at least don't want to make life hard for themselves, and that's how the mob rules. Any administrator who actually said that would be doxed, threatened, harrassed, and probably fired.
And someday these cretinous snowflakes will be safely running this country into the ground. Now they are mere digging a hole.
Some of them already are. Watch people with no experience of life, business, real communities etc, actually step straight out of their higher ed safe space and right into a government or political job as a bureacrat or activist.
"some of which seem quite dubious in hindsight."
Some?
gawd, even at Reason someone would say that.
Absolutely, "some" rather than "all". Ford's allegation was certainly plausible, albeit this distant in time pretty much unprovable (unless the third person alleged to have been in the room comes forward and says, "Yep, it happened about the way she said it did), and definitely unproven.
At least quote the whole sentence rather than the excerpt that makes it sound worse than it is:
at least some of which seem quite dubious in hindsight.
Now, I agree that it all seems quite dubious. What Robby says does allow for that possibility.
Robby deserves this criticism, but do it honestly.
Forget hindsight, the allegations were dubious from the start. They fell apart almost instantly.
I believe she added a second front door to her house.
Nothing like ostracizing a person, based on unfounded/unproven accusations! These students do not believe in Innocent until found guilty! They use dishonesty to attack those they do not agree with politically! They should be suspended if not removed from the school.
Yet there are credible rape accusitions against Virginia Lt.Gov. Fairfax, abd the students aren't afraid ti go to school in Va.
Wonder why.
(D-)
That's why
Easy, Jerry: Because Fairfax is a Democrat, like the other Democrat crooks, Bill and Hillary for example. Millennials and other ignorant, bothersome morons (see the Democratic Party) only get upset when the other party does something wrong! Let Bill Clinton rape God knows how many women, and the morons who make up Millennials and Dems will make sure they are protected.
Wait. GMU is IN Fairfax. This means something.
Yet there are credible rape accusitions against Virginia Lt.Gov. Fairfax, abd the students aren't afraid ti go to school in Va.
I haven't looked at the case in quite a while but, last I looked, this is untrue. There are calls for him to resign based on rumors that he sexually assaulted a woman (or two), but no one, not even the women themselves, are accusing him of anything criminal, let alone credibly. The fact that he could still be held criminally culpable for the actions they alleged and that they weren't pursuing them criminally undermined their credibility, IMO.
I don't know Fairfax from Adam, and while having a D after his name could be a factor, it could also be infighting and absent any motivation or other evidence that due process or whatever has already been usurped, I'm loathe to usurp or make mockery of the criminal justice system in this case. Stupid to do it to Fairfax, stupid to do it to Kavanaugh, slightly less (but still very) stupid to do it to Thomas, even pretty stupid to do it to Slick Willy (for the one case in which it was done).
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted." And my answer to you is: SO WHAT that you are insulted? That's life - get used to it...or don't. Either way, you are an embarrassing snowflake.
Same students probably believe Smollett and love the Green New Deal.
They are stupid.
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted," student Elijah Nichols tells WDVM.
I never expected a university to be a happy place. I made it one, but that's a different issue. I wish they realized how wimpy and privileged that they sound.
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted."
Your lack of reasoning skills, and complete lack of knowledge of the American Judicial and political system, insults me. I hereby withdraw any part of my federal taxes that assist you in any way.
(Damn, I wish my mail order meds would arrive - - - )
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted."
Then leave.
The university, indeed the world, will be a better place without all the hypersensitive snowflakes.
In other news, they've invited Joe Biden to deliver their commencement address.
There is nothing more annoying and useless than the whining of college students. They have yet to pay a bill, rear a child, or do anything else in the adult realm, and yet they believe their opinions matter. Kavanaugh did NOTHING WRONG, and they know it. I'll assume these blithering idiots supported both Bill and Hillary Clinton, both of whom are career criminals LITERALLY!! Time for these social, intellectual and fact-free ignorant babies to turn to their school work to get good grades, and make the tens of thousands of dollars their parents are spending sending them to a good college.
fuck you, Elijah Nichols.
Yeah, what a brat. An assault victim doesn't want to be taught by someone facing multiple, credible sexual assault allegations. How unreasonable.
Seriously though, the inability of some of you trash types to empathize with other human beings is astounding.
i'm a trash type because you don't know what "credible" means? If Elijah is serious he is too fragile for law school.
multiple, credible sexual assault allegations.
Shitlib claims unfounded and unsupported allegations are credible.
The "victim" is in the US, Kavanaugh will be teaching in the UK. Don't that's the dude's concern. Plus no allegations were ever made that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted a dude. I think Elijah is safe, LOL
And none of the multiple allegations were credible. Give me a freaking break.
There are multiple, credible allegations that your mom fucked an entire college football team, too.
who cares what happens to brett kavanaugh? He's not a libertarian. Sure, some of the allegations turned out to be false, but some appeared to be credible. Not sure i would want him drinking around my daughter. If these students don't want to learn from him, who cares?
what was the credible allegation? The girl alleges he was with her at a party that she can't remember when it was or where it was. The people she said were there said they never remember such an event. Kavanaugh was away for a modest portion of the summer it was alleged to have happened. lucky for her she couldn't remember when it occurred.
Maybe she was assaulted by somebody, but no credible evidence exists that kavanaugh did.
Lastly, the accuser said she left the house after it happened, leaving her best friend there. What type of person would do that? I've just been assaulted and feared for my physical safety. I'll run away and leave my best friend there alone with the two bad guys. If that's true, she's a piece of crap.
Another thing that causes me to question the credibility of the allegation is that, if she fled the house, leaving her friend there and not telling her she was leaving, wouldn't the friend have wondered, "Hmm, I wonder where Christine went?" and asked her about it the next day? If it were a small unmemorable gathering that was just like any number of small unmemorable gatherings, I would have no problem believing that the various people who attended would have no specific recollection of it, even if it had been the only party in which that specific group of attendees had been at together. But I can't come up with a credible scenario where Christine disappears from that small gathering and her friend doesn't notice. Which results in only one possibility that I can think of that could make this possible - her friend had a poor memory. But even with that possibility, it seems that a friend with a poor memory would say, "I have no specific recollection of that party, but it sounds like the sort of gatherings I attended in high school, and it's possible that it happened and I don't remember it," rather than, "I don't remember any party like that."
The student Left would force me to run, screaming from the Democratic Party if the Trump GOP wasn't even worse.
There are other parties.
None that matter.
Joe Biden taught at my university's law school. I graduated from their engineering school prior to him being there. What can I get?
as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education
Perhaps when you go to law school you should expect to learn about things such as due process, innocent until proven guilty, evidence, hearsay, etc.
due process, presumption of innocence, right to cross examine accuser, etc are features and guarantees that a criminal defendant has in a criminal court. i.e. the government can't lock you in a cage before going through said procedures.
No one has a right to due process, or presumption of innocence with prospective or current employers. In that context, you have no rights at all. The employer can hire/fire you for any reason s/he sees fit. It's really annoying when people try to apply criminal court standards outside of the context of criminal court.
Like other rights, there is a legal aspect and a cultural aspect*. And this was a federal appointment. Accusations of impropriety that are capable of destroying a persons reputation should be given appropriate scrutiny. No, the Kavanaugh circus was not a court of law trial (legal), but it was a trial in the court of public opinion (cultural). Baseless accusations should not prevent an appointment to a government office, likewise for any other job.
*take freedom of speech as another example. No, the government cannot legally stop me from saying what is on my mind. That is the legal aspect. A private entity such as Twitter, however, can legally prevent me from using their service so long as they are not in violation of their own terms of service because said terms of service is essentially a contract. If they make that contract too limited in the content that is allowed on their forum it is not conducive to the open exchange of ideas, and is therefor against the notion of freedom of speech. That is the cultural aspect.
"Baseless accusations should not prevent an appointment to a government office, likewise for any other job."
- because you say so? Also, some of the allegations were indeed credible.
There is no presumption of innocence in the cultural court of law, or whatever you wanna call it. I know of nothing in the constitution that guarantees you such a right. You have no due process rights as a job interviewee.
You may not like that your boy's name got smeared, but that doesn't mean he gets extra-constitutional rights.
Besides, kavanaugh is dirty conservative - loves executive power in a very unlibertarian way.
You'll note that I said "should not" with regard to the cultural aspect. I made an explicit distinction between culture and law. You seem very dense and not at all in favor of freedom in any fundamental sense.
Rebel Scum: **stomps heels while pulling pig tails saying** "you seem very dense and not at all in favor of freedom in any fundamental sense."
-cute.
I think employers should be able to hire/fire on whatever basis they wish. apparently that's not freedom in your world.
I think you lack reading and comprehension skills. I never said that employers should be legally restricted from hiring and firing as they please. As an employer you have every right to hire and fire, outstanding contractual obligations notwithstanding. I said that culturally we should give scrutiny to accusations of malfeasance so as to avoid making outcasts of innocent people.
Additionally I am sure you understand the concept that "politics is downstream from culture", which is to say if we start accepting such standards in a paradigm where an ostensibly limited government ignores the boundaries of its founding charter, we are well on the road to the cultural tyranny becoming legal tyranny.
"I think you lack reading and comprehension skills." - cool story.
"I said that culturally we should give scrutiny to accusations of malfeasance so as to avoid making outcasts of innocent people."
- no, what you said is above. here is it in quotes: "Perhaps when you go to law school you should expect to learn about things such as due process, innocent until proven guilty, evidence, hearsay, etc." - this implied that you thought criminal due process rights should apply to the "court of public opinion"
"Additionally I am sure you understand the concept that "politics is downstream from culture", which is to say if we start accepting such standards in a paradigm where an ostensibly limited government ignores the boundaries of its founding charter, we are well on the road to the cultural tyranny becoming legal tyranny."
- what founding charter was violated in this case? What standards are we accepting? How do they differ from the cultural standards we had, say, 100 years ago? And cite your source.
This was an undergrad not a law student from the description in the article.
Random noise from some idiot getting more attention than it deserves
Progressive education has won. Degrees given away for being a tardo blancmange.
They can do whatever they want with no consequences unless alumni get pissed off. Somehow I doubt students won't apply because Kavanaugh can't teach a course.
The toad brained kid is the insult.
Our Nation is facing a crisis that can not be overstated. We have been witness to our young joining our military services, and fighting in long terrible wars with honor, bravery, reflecting the best that our Nation has. Sadly, we have also been witness to snow flakes screaming and whining that they need save spaces on college campuses because they do not want to hear opinions that do not mirror theirs. Now we have these students at one of our Nation's most prestigious Universities trying to have a sitting USSC judge fired because they are afraid for their safety. As another poster rightly pointed out the allegations against Kavanugh were specious to begin with, and frankly DiFi forever tainted her reputation and ruined her legacy with her despicable conduct before, during, and after the Kavanaugh Senate confirmation.It is beyond ones ability to understand how any cogent student at George Mason could not be aware that the allegations against Kavanaugh were nothing but a reprehensible political attack by desperate partisans.So, on one hand we our future being represented by future leaders that are courageous responsible and represent a great future for the United States. But countering that we have...well...snow flakes.
additionally, we have old white trash folks like Travis losing their minds, writing long diatribes full of grammatical errors and misspellings. Thankfully, most people don't have to take him seriously.
And pseudo libertarian progtards like you thinking they are somehow clever.
Hint: you are not.
Thankfully, nobody here takes your verbal spew seriously, goatfucker.
You lost me at "one of our Nation's most prestigious Universities". The only time George Mason counts as "prestigious" is when someone mistakes it for one of the other schools in the DC area that start with George.
These young morons need to attend law school to learn about the rules of evidence and tainted testimony. It appears that George Mason University isn't the place to learn actual law.
you mean they should learn how to incorrectly apply the standards of a criminal court to a job interview? Where'd you get your JD?
Things you should probably learn in Law School:
1) The accused is innocent until _proven_ guilty.
2) The seriousness of the alleged offense does not weight justice toward a guilty verdict. It weights justice toward due diligence in determining the correct verdict.
It's too bad that the folks that signed the petition are not yet clear on these things.
job interviews are not criminal courts. You have no right to due process in a job interview or in the court of public opinion. In the context of an interview for the privilege of being a USSC justice, Kavanaugh had 0 rights as a candidate. They didn't have to consider him at all or interview him at all....for any reason they saw fit.
It looks like you Judge Animal House apologists just can't understand the difference between a criminal trial, and pretty much any other context.
Apparently you don't understand the difference between a job interview and a Supreme Court confirmation hearing
A public lynching isn't a criminal court either but it's still wrong. And a Supreme Court confirmation hearing isn't a job interview.
Due process and innocent until proven guilty are moral standards not just legal ones applicable to a court of law. It might be legal for the government to publicly shame you and destroy your reputation but it's still wrong.
This character that's so insulted claims (apparently) to be a survivor. While he(?) doesn't specify of what, my guess would be abysmal parenting, given his obvious inability to separate fact from fiction.
Under his "reasoning", if someone alleges him to be a brain-damaged moron, it must be true. Right?
Well he apparently survived high school so there's that.
2,000 signatures; however, are those 2,000 signatories students at George Mason or students in the law school. If not, go away...very very far away!
sure don't know much about the law, for law students...SPLC candidates???
As a survivor
*looks down* Yep, I'm still alive.
As a survivor, gfy.
TDS is a very serious disease that disturbs the brain's frontal lobes.
Recent studies have show that TDS is rampant in large urban coastal cities and college campuses.
At present, there is no known cure.
"to experience a happy, safe place,"
No place that she's at could ever be happy.
Can't we, at some point, just tell these lunatics to fuck off and die? That's the only decent and rational response.
The postmodern Left weaponizes compassion against the compassionate, turning it into a club to beat them into submission.
Wherever there is trust making society better, there are Leftists betraying that trust for political power, and thereby reducing the level of trust and the good it does for society.
They are a malignant societal cancer.
"As a survivor, as a student who comes to this university, and expects to have a good education, to experience a happy, safe place, I am insulted."
People with past personal trauma are the last ones who can be objective over risk assessment.
But note that even on it's own terms, her statement is bullshit.
If she really felt "unsafe", her base emotion would be *fear*, not "insult", which is an expression of the base emotion of anger over having a perceived right or privilege violated.
The complaining student isn't a "she". The name of the student is Elijah. It's a dude.
kavanaugh wasn't accused of sexually assaulting a dude. what a crock of baloney
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These students who are rich enough to attend Geaorge Mason to get the "law education" have to be the most weak minded, lily-livered F***s with the spine of a gecko on the planet. Most of the allegations against Kavanaugh were dubious? Every F*****g one of these allegations were not only dubious, but they were also completely fictional. Not one allegation stood.
These student protesters. what they do to me is convince me I need to invest in Kleenex, because the amount of crying and whining is only going to get worse in this era of made up victim/identity politics...
The students protesting are undergraduates, not law students. The law students are probably pretty pleased to be having a sitting Supreme Court justice come teach at their law school.
Undergraduate students today do all the protesting and leave schools with worthless degrees unable to spell or do simple math. I work with them daily and their inability to write using correct grammar is shocking. When you get an email with the word "here" used instead of "hear" it is a bit puzzling but when you get an email saying "I hered that this project is now...." it is very sad. We are graduating idiots with thousands of dollars of debt who will never pay it off because they are too stupid or "entitled" to keep a job.
If a law student can't recognize Blasey Ford as the prototype of an unreliable witness, he or she gas no business pursuing a legal career.
I guess they don't teach "Due Process" at the Antonin Scalia Law School @ Duke; but then again, it is Duke.
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Why can't these students imagine themselves as victims of false allegations, like it is increasingly obvious that Brett Kavanaugh was falsely accused?
Do they self-identify with the false accusers?
These are law students?
Why can't these students imagine themselves as victims of false allegations, like it is increasingly obvious that Brett Kavanaugh was falsely accused?
Do they self-identify with the false accusers?
These are law students?
When did the standard of proof become simply an allegation? There is not a shred of evidence to support Dr. Ford but who cares lets continue to persecute the man because we lost the fight to keep him off the court. I hope every student whomis calling for his dismissal one day finds themselves the victim of unsupported allegations and are forced to fight to save their career and personal lives so they will fully appreciate the world they created.