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Kim Foxx, the State’s Attorney Who Let Jussie Smollett Go, Has a Lot of Explaining to Do

"A case with the consequential effects of Mr. Smollett's should not be resolved without a finding of guilt or innocence."

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As an outraged public continues to wonder why Empire star Jussie Smollett is no longer facing charges for allegedly faking a hate crime, the National District Attorney's Association is criticizing prosecutor Kim Foxx for her decision to dismiss the case.

"When a prosecutor seeks to resolve a case through diversion or some other alternative to prosecution, it should be done so with an acknowledgment of culpability on the part of the defendant," the organization said in a statement. "A case with the consequential effects of Mr. Smollett's should not be resolved without a finding of guilt or innocence."

The group raises some very valid concerns about Foxx, the state's attorney. It was previously reported that Foxx recused herself from the Smollett case in February, but it appears she did not file the paperwork to do so officially. This meant that the judge could not appoint a special prosecutor to handle the case, and instead, Foxx's offices continued to be principally involved in bringing Smollett to justice. Her recusal was in no sense meaningful.

This matters, because Foxx had been in contact with supporters and relatives of Smollett—including Tina Tchen, a former aide to First Lady Michelle Obama. The relative and Foxx ostensibly discussed getting the Chicago police to turn the entire matter over to the FBI, which Foxx attempted in vain to make happen.

Tchen is not the only political friend Smollett and Foxx have in common: Sen. Kamala Harris (D­–Calif.), is another. Foxx has described Harris as mentor, and Harris appeared at a rally with Smollett and his sister, according to CBS Chicago.

There are obviously a lot of connections between politicians and Hollywood, and the existence of such connections does not prove that Foxx let Smollett off as some kind of favor. But Foxx herself has shot down one of the more plausible alternative explanations, which was that the case was simply not nearly as strong as the police had made it out to be. Foxx has maintained that the evidence was solid and that "this office believed that they could prove him guilty." For some reason, they simply did not want to.

Foxx's office has tried to spin the outcome as a win-win: Smollett forfeited a $10,000 bond and completed 16 hours of community service. But Smollett's attorneys have correctly pointed out that no formal agreement was ever reached, and Smollett was never required to admit guilt.

It would have been perfectly appropriate to show Smollett leniency. In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society. Community service and some sort of fine is a perfectly reasonable conclusion to this case—but only alongside an admission of guilt. Smollett inflamed the entire nation at a time when many people are especially concerned that hate crimes are increasing and President Trump has something to do with it. On its face, what happened to Smollett seemed to confirm this misleading premise. If the prosecutors believed Smollett was guilty, and that they could prove it, then they really should have compelled him to acknowledge that there are no ski-mask-wearing "MAGA country" mercenaries prowling the streets of Chicago in the middle of the night.

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290 responses to “Kim Foxx, the State’s Attorney Who Let Jussie Smollett Go, Has a Lot of Explaining to Do

  1. Smollett needs to hire OBL for his defense — the prosecution would be left shaking their heads in a sputtering mess.

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  2. Too black to fail.

    1. This so-called actor engaged in a criminal hoax, highly damaging to the reputation of many good people, and he should be immediately arrested, prosecuted, and jailed for his crimes. There is nothing wrong with a little corruption, but it should be used to jail criminals, not release them. Here at New York University, we cultivate contacts with certain figures and are proud to avail ourselves of those contacts when the circumstances are appropriate. See, for example, the documentation of our nation’s leading criminal “satire” case at:

      https://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com

      Our actions in this regard, incidentally, are a president, both legally and otherwise, for the way things should have been handled in the Smollett affair.

      1. Soave writes:

        “It would have been perfectly appropriate to show Smollett leniency. In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society. ”

        What he did could’ve started racial riots in $hitcago & maybe spread to other cities…..He should not be shown much leniency!

  3. Foxx’s office offered an explanation: She used the term “recuse” in its “colloquial” sense, not its legal sense.

    Yeah, really.

    What is it, amateur hour at the State Attorney’s office?

    1. Naw, Chicago only has professional cronies.

      1. What a freaking embarrassment.

        1. Only to outsiders. I bet just about everyone in city government is applauding her audacity.

          1. Not really. The citizens of Chicago are pretty provincial and have somewhat of a inferiority complex — Second City and all that. They don’t mind being corrupt and venial. They don’t like being considered the butt of a joke, though.

            And now they are.

    2. “She used the term “recuse” in its “colloquial” sense, not its legal sense.”

      It wasn’t rape-rape!

      1. Is there such a thing as “colliquial”, informal usage of a word like “recuse”? What a nitwit.

    3. Amos and Andy originated in Chicago too.

      1. and Bozo and Soul Train.

    4. Forget it Jake, its Chi-town.

  4. court of public opinion will out.

    1. I can smell the burn five states away.

  5. Bill Barr is in the same boat, maybe they should get together after work for a beer. Cases like this happen now and then and are usually resolved at the ballet box. I assume Ms Fixx is elected and that would be the best time to correct this and replace her.

    1. >>>Ms Fixx

      one thing leads to another

      1. Maybe Jussie’ll win, saved by zero prosecutions.

    2. “ballet box”

      Pants off dance off!

    3. Explain how Bill Barr is in the same boat? Other DoJ lawyers, including Rosenstein looked at the information regarding obstruction and also drew the same conclusion. How is that even close to what Foxx did?

      1. Let Jessie appoint his own prosecutor, hide the evidence and then maybe you’ll figure it out

        1. But he didn’t appoint his own prosecutor, and he didn’t hide the evidence.

      2. Obstruction of Justice is witness tampering, forging documents, perjury, threatening others so that they lie for you or simply asking them to lie for you, destruction of evidence….Trump did none of that , but HildaBeast did some of this in her e-mail crimes!

    4. No he’s not, not even close. OMG, get some help. Seriously.

  6. Well, at least Jussie Smollett is still black and gay and isn’t that punishment enough in Donald Trump’s AmeriKKKa? I’m sure his fame and fortune and ability to skate on the consequences of bad behavior are cold comfort indeed. Colin Kaepernick sympathizes.

  7. Anthony Anderson is happy for him. And the NCAAP just nominated him for an award.

    Amazing.

    We’re living in a world where the value system is being torn apart.

    Maybe Mr. Anderson should THINK about his position a little harder and why it’s bad for EVERYONE.

    1. He’s garbage. Kim Foxx is garbage. This is all tribal and political. Remember the mantra of the #resistance is “by any means necessary”. They have no morals, no values or principles they aren’t willing to abandon in the name of “speaking truth to power”. Actually they really have no morals or values whatsoever beyond what The Narrative demands of them. This is how it works. Smollett gets to keep on lying for a “greater good”.

      1. I’m afraid you’re right.

      2. Yet, there are people here at Hit & Run who excoriate those of us who call a spade a spade:

        Smollett is a beneficiary of People of Color Privilege.

        1. I’d say it’s something more like Woke privilege. Cultists always cover for each other, it’s what they do. They don’t extend the same generosity to those who left the plantation.

          1. Sure, there is that and there is also the fact that, where convenient, one specie of progressivism will ally itself with another.

            Nevertheless, libertarians should recognize that black people are far more apt to engage in socially dysfunctional behavior and not apologize for making the point.

            Libertarians should champion freedom of association and zealously defend white folk who choose not to associate with black folk.

            Championing freedom of association is good, per se.

            Championing anti-racism is evil, per se.

            1. Nevertheless, libertarians should recognize that black people are far more apt to engage in socially dysfunctional behavior and not apologize for making the point.

              Libertarians believe that individuals act (socially functional or dysfunctional), not groups of people. It’s a clear distinction that you fail to make.

              Libertarians should champion freedom of association and zealously defend white folk who choose not to associate with black folk.

              Why should I defend them? I’ll defend their right to do so, sure. But I see no reason to defend racism, and this is precisely what not associating with someone based entirely on their race is.

              Championing anti-racism is evil, per se.

              No. No it’s not. What about the anit-racist’s individual right to champion what they believe?

              1. We have to go here–

                Championing freedom of association is good, per se.

                Which you ignored, to understand why this–

                Championing anti-racism is evil, per se.

                is true.

                Championing freedom of association is good because it’s a right. We all have, and should defend the right to associate with those we wish so long as they wish to associate with us.

                One should not be forced to associate with people one does not wish to associate with. That is a violation of the NAP, a violation of individual rights, and an infringement on individual liberty.

                Championing anti-racism is championing forced association. Forced association is a violation of the NAP, a violation of individual rights, and an infringement on individual liberty.

                Therefore, by libertarian standards, championing anti-racism is evil. Not because of anyone’s race, but because it violates base principles.

                The best way to fight racism is by promoting freedom?.of association. Then people get to decide, individually, what is best for them. And THAT is best for everyone.

    2. What would Mr. Anderson say about a program entitled, “Whitish?”

      Nihilistic negro non-sense should be ceaselessly ridiculed.

      1. As should bigotry.

  8. “When a prosecutor seeks to resolve a case through diversion or some other alternative to prosecution, it should be done so with an acknowledgment of culpability on the part of the defendant,”

    The problem is that the defendant can’t credibly acknowledge culpability if they are coerced into doing so. This is a problem that pervades our justice system. A defendant who admits guilt sometimes does less time than he would if he were acquitted. Nobody can defend that.

  9. Getting attention: $3,500
    Having case dismissed and sealed: $10,000
    Pitting the CPD against prosecutors: Priceless?

    1. I see you’ve done your homework.

  10. So insulated in her own bubble of bullshit, she didn’t even realize how fucking stupid she was going to look to the outside world.

    1. Why start now?

    2. “What is this ‘outside world’ of which you speak?”

      1. The obvious cesspool of corruption that is Chicago vs the nominally non-corrupt rest of America.

    3. Who cares about the world when you have Michelle Obama’s gratitude?

      What I wonder is why she wanted it turned over to the FBI? Usually it’s the last thing a perp or his family would want, they’d want to keep it local. We know the FBI is a putrid partisan mess, but is it so bad Michelle Obama’s fixer can make a call to the FBI and get the whole thing dropped? How deep is the rot in the FBI?

      1. That stood out to me, too.

        That would seem to be very damning of the FBI… on top of what we already have seen of them.

        1. “That would seem to be very damning of the FBI… on top of what we already have seen of them.”

          Or confirming what we have already seen of them.

          Tchen: Hand it over to the FBI, Michelle and I know a guy….

      2. There’s a chance that she just didn’t wan to deal with it. She knew it would be bad local politics to pursue the case, but bad national optics to not pursue the case, so we wanted the feds to take it off her hands.

      3. “Someone” wanted it turned over to the FBI when that “someone” likely thought the attack was actually perpetrated by MAGA hat wearing white guys. Then, later, when that “someone” realized there wasn’t actually an attack, that “someone” just wants the whole thing to go away.

      4. Yes, good point.

  11. He was trying to stir up racial hatred and incite violence. It’s a much more serious crime than faking an attack, it has political implications.

    1. Yeah… I was going to say something about that “danger to society” bit.

      We accuse Trump of inciting violence, but lies like this are actually crimes AND they increase the tensions that do lead to violence.

      Pitting tribes against each other based on a lie IS a danger to society. Anyone whose spent any time in Chicago should be highly aware of that.

      1. and teh media ran with the racism story escalating teh whole lie. How many more people with MAGA hats were attacked after this lie was expanded on, and without a true legal result the lie can be continued and more people attacked

  12. Seems rather obvious the prosecutor knew it was a hoax but agreed with the sentiments behind staging it (Bad orange dude encourages racism!) so therefore didn’t want to actually try Smollett.

    What I don’t get is why not just decline to charge him at all? Surely they aren’t so lacking in work that they can’t afford to simply dismiss certain cases, especially ones where they agree with the perpetrator.

    1. It is yet another reminder of black social dysfunction.

      It is yet another reminder of the cess pools black run cities have become. Chicago, Detroit, Newark,…..

      1. no, but you should definitely considering ending your own life.

        1. Libertarian sites don’t defend, excuse, or otherwise justify black social dysfunction, slaver.

          Libertarian sites do support the proposition that anti-racists along with third generation welfare gimmiedats type of sub-humans should kill themselves.

          1. see above. it’s really for the best. uncle cletus will miss you, but otherwise, we’ll all be better off, especially you. Why waste life like that?

      2. I refer you to New York under Boss Tweed or Chicago under Capone. Thoroughly white and far worse than their modern versions.

        Grow up.

      3. I refer you to New York under Boss Tweed or Chicago under Capone. Thoroughly white and far worse than their modern versions.

        Grow up.

    2. There was far too much political pressure for her to not charge him. The case was too open. This is the same reason that it was the newspapers that brought down Boss Tweed instead of the police. Police and prosecutors can be bribed. However, when everyone is looking, they are forced to do their jobs or pay the price. I’m only surprised that she would try this sort of thing. If she had given him a sweetheart plea deal, people will be ticked off, but in the end, no one was directly hurt, so it would die down. This? She is facing major corruption investigations.

    3. I thought the charges were brought by a Grand Jury. So Ms. Fixx was left with some serious forgivin’ to do if she wanted to maintain solidarity, she couldn’t just ‘not charge him’.

      And so she came to her Solomonic decision to ummm….just let him walk and do some shifty shit to pretend to NOT be behind the deal. It just wasn’t real graceful “shifty shit”. It was the District Attorneys office equivalent of, oh, I dunno…claiming to be attacked by two men in whiteface under ski masks with ball caps over them, at 2AM in a deserted part of Chicago in below zero temperatures…and draping a clothesline around your neck to call it a “lynching”. No, not very clever at all.

      “In its’ colloquial sense” my ass…even the corruption is stupid in Chicago, what a joke.

    4. You’re assuming that much thought went into it.

  13. The instant I read that Smollett still had a noose on his neck when people talked to him I realized that his story was complete horse shit.

    1. this. he needed a producer to iron out details

    2. As soon as you read that Smollett was attacked by MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporters who supposedly knew who the hell Jussie Smollett even was, the story becomes very damn dubious. And at 2 in the morning in downtown Chicago on one of the coldest nights of the year? Yeah, that never happened.

      1. He was set upon by unicorn hunters.

      2. Don’t forget the “attackers” were people who knew him personally and whom he had worked with. If it was a real attack, you’d think he would have said something like, “Hey X, hey Y?wtf is this? Are you guys serious?” It’s not like he claimed they were wearing masks?just hats. How did he not recognize them?

        1. Nigerian accents… both guys were pretty jacked… one was taller and one was shorter… two guys like my personal trainers… MAGA hats but black skin (and Nigerian accents)… Nope, didn’t see any distinguishing characteristics *except* *MAGA* *hats*.

          1. Hours of streetcam footage from 50 angles, no other MAGA hats.

          2. As bizarre as it sounds, the defense team is saying that the Nigerians were wearing whiteface makeup, which fooled Jussie into thinking the attackers were white.
            I kid you not!

        2. His lawyer just suggested they may have been wearing whiteface. No joke. I think he’s being represented by Algonquin J. Calhoun. Joke.

          1. Wow. That is some obscure pop culture.

          2. J. Cheever Loophole

          3. There’s actual video available too that can disprove this.

        3. And they threw bleach on him, because that’s a thing.

        4. His attorneys are claiming the brothers were in whiteface. Seriously.

        5. I mean there was a windchill of around-15 that night. EVERYONE was probably wearing a ski mask. He in fact said that they were wearing masks, and nothing about that is especially suspicious.

      3. When I read the “attacker” claimed Chicago was maga country I knew it was bullshit.

        I didnt know he set the whole thing up at the time, thought maybe he did get jumped and saw it as an opportunity.

        What Smollet actually did takes a type of person that is an evil sociopath. He planned it out, it wasn’t like his emotions got the best of him at the time and he fucked up.

        1. Not just plan it, but the stand up in public shamelessly and say, “See? I didn’t do it.”

          He didn’t even have the remorse (or sense) to pull an OJ and say, “Now I’m going to find the REAL bleach throwing MAGA wearing Nigerians.”

          We’re talking serious sociopath.

          1. He was also willing to offer testimony against two men who might have just happened to be in the area that night.

            1. Smollett is sick in the head. We’re talking very, very SICK IN THE HEAD.

        2. Yeah, I suspected it was a case of “I got hurt doing something stupid, so I’ll make a story about being mobbed by racists.” The fact that he actually planned this out in advance just makes it an extra level of scummy.

      4. Not just downtown Chicago… it was on the Gold Coast. A very liberal section of Chicago. It’s about the farthest you can get from Maga Country.

    3. That plus the fact that he barely had a scratch on his face and he never lost his phone, or his sandwich. I would guess if you got roughed up on the streets of Chicago at 2am on one of the coldest night of the year, you would know (and appear like you had been roughed up. Your phone and sandwich would also probably be gone

      1. Your phone and sandwich would also probably be gone

        The bleach was the tell for me. Not that the rest wasn’t but it was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Between others and myself, I’ve seen people sprayed with anhydrous ammonia, acetone, bleach, hot acid, PAVA (pepper) spray, CS (tear) gas both accidentally and on purpose.

        You might get bleached, tear gassed, or pepper sprayed and walk your way home. Unless you’re some manner of special forces badass, you’re going to *want* medical attention even after you get there. Unless you’re an international spy or a wanted felon, there’s no reason why you wouldn’t. You don’t get beat up, have a noose tied around your neck, and get dowsed in bleach by two people and then walk your way home and you don’t get beat up and dowsed in bleach as a hate crime and walk away looking like Jussie did. Unless whomever was assaulting you as a hate crime was going easy/light on you or the beating got interrupted.

    4. Most hate crimes hoaxes reek of unbearably bad Hollywood writing; David Mamet he ain’t.

      A noose! Bleaching of skin! This is MAGA country! It’s a wonder that the deplorables didn’t pull off his hijab, too.

  14. This idea of ‘it’s payback for all past injustices’ is a horrible strategy and will serve no one in the long run.

    1. What if it’s ‘it’s payback for all past injustices’ *all the way down*?

  15. How could the act of inflaming the entire nation NOT pose some actual danger to society?

    1. Yeah, that principle of harm thing is the joker in the deck, ain’t it?

  16. Why was Smollett allowed to perform “community service” working for Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/Push Coalition?

    How can political activism be considered “community service”?

    1. “did we say service we totes meant organizing.”

    2. Those knobs weren’t going to polish themselves.

      1. Those stools weren’t going to push in themselves.

    3. She used “community service” in its colloquial sense?

    4. He should have been made to go pick up trash in a poor white neighborhood.

  17. “He a good boy that dindu nuffin.”

  18. It was previously reported that Foxx recused herself from the Smollett case in February, but it appears she did not file the paperwork to do so officially.

    Obviously the solution is mis-dismissal on the grounds of incompetence.

    1. Even corrupt prosecutors have prosecutorial discretion and even guilty hoaxers are protected from double jeopardy.

      1. Doesn’t double jeopardy mean brought to trial twice? He hasn’t been tried yet.

        1. A case can be dismissed with prejudice before it ever reaches trial, I believe.

  19. It’s funny, it’s like everyone suddenly realized Chicago is Chicago.

    1. Everywhere else it’s six degrees of Kevin Bacon. In Chicago it’s three degrees from inept *and* corrupt public officials. You can point to any side in this case and, in two jumps, connect them to their own separate federal indictment, investigation, or consent decree. Rahm Emanuel is the cleanest person in the room for chrissakes.

      1. “Rahm Emanuel is the cleanest person in the room for chrissakes”.

        I’m…wow. I just…I lived near Chicago for a few years, read the Trib every day, I knew about inept, I knew about corrupt. But yeah, that’s a shocking realization about Emanuel. Something I would never have thought possible. But…

        “Chicago is, like, the Florida of Illinois!”

    2. I really didn’t think they’d be so brazenly inept. My eyes have been opened.

      1. The only expertise most Chicago politicians have is getting elected. They lack most other, real world skills.

  20. It would have been perfectly appropriate to show Smollett leniency. In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society

    I don’t know what the right punishment for him would be… but Smollett was perfectly willing to send two innocent dupes to prison on false charges that he manufactured. That’s the most serious part of this case. I don’t give two shits about the media, the twitstorm, any of that shit is on the shoulders of people who reflexively believe any story that tickles their preconceived narrative.

    The real crime here is that Smollett was willing to press charges against the arrested subjects riiiight up until the second the po-po told him who they arrested.

    1. I don’t know what the right punishment for him would be

      Why doesn’t E/T ask him?

    2. No matter what factors you’re looking at, it would not be perfectly appropriate to show any leniency. The crimes aren’t that serious but the ramifications were. And he was willing to let other people take the blame and go to jail. I don’t see anything in the crime itself, the aftermath or the demeanor of Smollett to suggest that leniency would be appropriate.

  21. Compare and contrast with Trump. He continues on after worse gaffes than this, blithely “unaware” of any problems, tweeting out a storm. These amateurs apologize and make excuses.

    1. Trump is far less tribal and far less apt to engage in perverse socially dysfunctional behavior than the likes of Ms. Foxx or Michelle Obama or Smollett or the Rev. Al or the Rev. Jackson or Marion Barry or Michael Jackson or Maxine Waters.

      1. Libertymike: “i don’t like black people.”

        There – fixed it for you. Next time remember saying the above is more precise and concise.

        1. Some of my favorite social deviants are black…

          1. hey, at least you’re open about being trash. Loud and proud is better than hiding it. Makes it easier for people to avoid you. Good luck with the bigotry, oops, i meant, totally unreasonable accusations of racism from those damned coastal elites with our private school educations, disposable income, and expensive real estate.

            1. Protest harder milady.

              1. cute. looks like you trolled chemjeff earlier. you’re so funny and awesome. everyone likes you.

            2. *Libertymike points out Black actual racists*
              *itals calls him a racist for pointing out racists*
              Oh look, we’re fucking twitter now.

        2. What!?!? There are white dysfunctional Progessives?!?!?

        3. The only rational response to people like you is go F yourself.

  22. Too lazy to do the search; did he send the fake letter to the FBI?

    1. “No reasonable prosecutor ….”

  23. I’m waiting to see how this plays out and it may be interesting. Will the FBI get involved? Who knows, so I’ll wait for the fat lady to sing.

    1. Maybe he can join Hillary, Clapper, and the other Obama leftover better clingers.

      1. Who knew Hillary gave Obama the clap?

    2. Trump already announced the FBI is going to investigate the state’s attorney.

      1. Fats of Fury – good to know. Enjoy your evening !

  24. It would have been perfectly appropriate to show Smollett leniency. In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society.

    What if that person was trying to foment a race-war.

    1. Ah, but what if that person’s intention was to *improve* society?

    2. That would require a trial verdict, which would require pressing charges, which would require a prosecutor interested in exposing dirty laundry and losing her pension and the possibility of running for higher office.

    3. What if he was only doing it to provide some conveniently-timed publicity that might propel a dumb law through Congress to benefit the political career of a Chicago-connected politician?

      I mean, that’s okay, right?

    4. What if he was only doing it to provide some conveniently-timed publicity that might propel a dumb law through Congress to benefit the political career of a Chicago-connected politician?

      I mean, that’s okay, right?

  25. As a city, Chicago is indeed very lucky that this occurred during a bitter cold snap. Had this occurred in warm-enough weather, there would have been riots. There would have been buildings burned down and people beaten or even killed.
    This had potentially very dangerous consequences.

    1. This had potentially very dangerous consequences.

      Is that the threshold for a crime? Speech, press, open carry, many of the things we hold dear meet that criteria.

      1. The threshold for crime was false reporting. Not sure your question here. Are you claiming false police reports are free speech?

        1. I’m saying many things meet the criterion that they could have very dangerous consequences, that shouldn’t be a crime. I thought my statement was pretty clear.

          I’m sure that lying to police shouldn’t be a felony. I suppose their is some compelling reason to say that filing false police reports could be a problem if it happened frequently. An appropriate punishment would be to reimburse the police for the cost of the investigation in very rare cases, like this one. You shouldn’t go to jail over it.

          1. FFS, yes you should. It wastes money, manpower, and has potentially dangerous consequences. Do you REALLY think that file false police reports should be protected speech?

            But goddamn, how will anyone have any agency or any ability to express themselves without being able to report phony crimes? /sarc

            1. Yeah, because locking him up for a non violent offense doesn’t “waste money, manpower.”

              1. There’s nothing non-violent about filing false reports. It’s a form of assault, with police as the weapon.

    2. This had potentially very dangerous consequences.

      Is that the threshold for a crime? Speech, press, open carry, many of the things we hold dear meet that criterion.

  26. It’s racist to criticize Kim Foxx. The end.

    1. “i don’t understand why people have called me racist in the past, have never attempted to empathize with said accusers, and now i think it’s funny to straw man them on the internet. ” – translation.

      1. Omfg you’re so boring.

        1. hey look, someone tried to be serious and you responded with glib sarcasm….like every other alt right internet warrior.

          Empathy is for pussies, right?

          1. Hes right. You’re boring.

            1. cool story, bro.

            2. you spelled Jessie wrong.

          2. Fuck, you’re a dishonest little demagogue, aren’t you.

            1. It’s kind of sad to see dumbasses virtue signalling to each other on Twitter.

              Until you see how sad it is to see someone virtue signalling to THEMSELVES. Where’s the dopamine in that?

  27. The tag on the post here is “Hate Crimes”. Shouldn’t there be a tag for “Fake News”?

    1. “Fake hate crimes” probably deserves it’s own tag by now.

  28. I think faking hate crimes to try and sow division is a threat to the society.

  29. You’re going to have to step up your game if you want to troll here. It’s like you didn’t even try.

  30. C’mon, that headline should have read, Kim Foxx got some ‘splainin’ to do.

    Reason missed a big chance to get down with it and bank some street cred. Ow! Look out!

  31. C’mon, that headline should have read, Kim Foxx got some ‘splainin’ to do.

    Reason missed a big chance to get down with it and bank some street cred. Ow! Look out!

  32. This is getting fucking weird.

  33. 16 felony charges
    16 hours of ‘community service’
    Sounds about right, isn’t that what all those accused with 16 felonies get?

    Chicago
    $10,000
    let him go
    Sounds about right, isn’t that what all those accused with 16 felonies get?

    1. I’m curious what you think an appropriate punishment for lying to police should be.

      1. Lying to police:

        ” Have you kids been smoking weed tonight”? ““No sir, officer”!

        Swatting

        False rape accusations.

      2. Lying to police about a crime you staged for the purpose of impugning others deserves jail time. 2-3 years probably.

        1. Why though, who is the victim?

          If you think taxpayers are a victim, ok I guess, but fine him the cost of the investigation then and make the taxpayers whole.

          If you think the impugned others are victims, they should be able to file suit for their damages and be made whole, if they’ve actually incurred damages. Not sure that applies in this case.

          From a purely libertarian standpoint I have a problem with this “felony.” Whether Jussie belongs in jail or not seems to fall upon purely political lines (based on the comments here) which is pretty telling I think.

          1. When a group is impugned by lies, who is the victim?

            I mean, this was just “white guys who support Trump are racist, homophobic, violent sociopaths who will gang up and beat up a little black gay guy and throw bleach on him in the middle of the night”, so no real blood libel here, right?

            1. If you feel your reputation has been tarnished by Smollett then sue him. How does sending him to jail help Trump supporters other than in some sick twisted revenge type scenario?

          2. The purpose, as will all punishments (at least partly) is to serve as a deterrent to others.

            This was a pretty big hoax, 16 felonies, and very blatant, and staged for a number of big goals, is own self-aggrandizement, AND, the impugning of an entire population with a political viewpoint HE didn’t like.

            He should have been taught a lesson.

            Also, Foxx needs to go to jail for “obstruction of justice” (and perhaps others that were involved in this) because there ABSOLUTELY was obstruction of justice” here.

            1. AZGunowner…..agreed, especially about the obstruction of justice!

  34. It would have been perfectly appropriate to show Smollett leniency. In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society.

    Trying to cause the anti-conservative riots that, you, Soave, cover, is an actual danger to society

    1. If I stood on a street corner and yelled things with the intent to cause anti-conservative riots, would you consider that a crime?

      1. That depends. Did you call the police and tell it to them in an official capacity?

        1. you know, did you unquestionably commit a crime like this guy did? Why would you ask a dumbshit question like that?

          1. So because the government defined it as a crime, you think it should be a crime? “Congress shall make no law… Abridging the freedom of speech” leaves no wiggle room for lies. He did lie to the state I guess, we should probably string him up for that. You know as good libertarians, fighting for the poor state.

            Maybe he owns a bump stock. That’s a crime now, right?

            1. I didn’t think that even “as libertarians”, we were supposed to obey only the laws we agreed with.

            2. This is definitely not a free speech issue. The filing of the police report is an action, not speech.

      2. Leo K, you’re not allowed to intentionally lie and yell FIRE in crowded theater when there is not a fire, as people will likely be hurt in the evacuation. You are calling people to action, an action they need not take.

    1. call 1-800-273-8255

      1. OBL is a parody account

        1. No, I find his commentary incisive and informative.

          Of course, this is a sarcasm account, so…

    2. “The fact that you haven’t read the full report proves there’s devastating stuff in there….”
      Seriously? I haven’t read all the reports on the Loch Ness Monster either, I guess that proves it must be real.

      1. “Seriously? I haven’t read all the reports on the Loch Ness Monster either, I guess that proves it must be real.”

        Our newest lefty sock is SHOCKED! SHOCKED, I tell you:
        isn’t this a libertarian site?|3.28.19 @ 8:50PM|#
        “trump was neither exonerated nor indicted. neither dems nor republicans can claim vindication with the information we have available.”

        See? The imbeciles who fantasize about Lochy are still valid agents!
        Per Fancylad, this pile of shit is smelling very strongly of Hihnsanity.

        1. I was thinkin’ more like the Rev. Some of the attitudes…

          1. Yeah, the assholery is strong, but Hihn covered that pretty well, also.
            Perhaps the lack of ransom-note boldings tends toward the asshole.

    3. And when police assassins connected to the Brazilian president scandal is swept under the rug it’ll “gut Greenwald’s narrative”.

    1. Maybe we should all be filing false police reports if it keeps these assholes busy doing something other than shooting people.

      1. It’s a fact that the police CAN be prevented from shooting as many people as they currently do!

        Sadly, it involves dogs. Lots and lots of dogs, with targets painted on them.

      2. If Tony filed a police report that said you were holding someone captive and threating to kill them, is that ok?

  35. Hey, Right-Wing Robby:

    Should Pres. Trump have been interviewed under oath before a Republican prosecutor overseen by other Republican prosecutors issued a secret report on which a Republican government appointee based conclusory assertions that a Republican president should not be charged?

    Or is your concern about unresolved investigations predictably partisan and paltry?

    Right-wingers in unconvincing libertarian drag are among my favorite faux libertarians.

    Carry on, clingers.

    1. Hey, asshole:
      They found nothing. Your fantasy has been shown to be nothing other than left-wing lies.
      Fuck off, clinger.

      1. right on cue – as if you’re being satirical. that would be awesome.

        trump was neither exonerated nor indicted. neither dems nor republicans can claim vindication with the information we have available.

        Consider ending it all if you’re that angry about things.

        1. isn’t this a libertarian site?|3.28.19 @ 8:50PM|#
          “right on cue – as if you’re being satirical. that would be awesome.”
          Right on cue with bullshit

          “trump was neither exonerated nor indicted. neither dems nor republicans can claim vindication with the information we have available.”
          Lefty losers are determined to demand Trump be found “innocent”; he was found not guilty, which is all the law requires; he was ‘exonerated’, regardless of your lefty fantasies.

          “Consider ending it all if you’re that angry about things.”
          I’d prefer you die; you’d make the world a better and smarter place. But do it a ways off so you don’t keep stinking up the place.

          1. You should be using your time preparing to be replaced by your betters.

            1. “You should be using your time preparing to be replaced by your betters.”

              You might spend some time learning how not to be an asshole, asshole.

              1. How dare you expect Rev Asshole to be anything other than himself?

                Carry on, clinger.

            2. Another one feeding the crocodile convinced it will eat him last.

              Just in case, don’t forget to turn to us if the crocodile turns on you. We’ll be there for you, buddy.

        2. You’re fucking Hihn, aren’t you. Ban evading again, huh.

          1. Yeah, that stinks of scumbag, and the added evidence of but one more sock.

    2. “Right-wingers in unconvincing libertarian drag are among my favorite faux libertarians” – it appears a large percentage of comments here are made by vulgar, right wing “libertarians”

      1. There are more than you’d like, sure. But there are also plenty of serious libertarians like moneyshot.

        1. the obsession with immigration is mind boggling.

          1. Focusing on the wrong things is one of the reasons wingnuts get stomped in the culture war.

            1. “Focusing on the wrong things is one of the reasons wingnuts get stomped in the culture war.”

              Focusing on the wrong things is one of the reasons assholes like you and that hag lost, asshole.

        2. “But there are also plenty of serious libertarians like moneyshot.”
          *chef’s kiss*
          I love you OBL.

    3. Well said.

      Hey Art, are you having as much fun as I am laughing at the totally discredited #TrumpRussia denialists? If you haven’t already, you need to check out Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracey on Twitter. It’s cringe-tastic!

      #OlbermannWasRight

      1. Watching clingers’ premature celebrations has always been a great part of winning the culture war.

        1. “Watching clingers’ premature celebrations has always been a great part of winning the culture war.”

          Watching assholes celebrate a loss is one of the true enjoyments of educated people, asshole.

          1. Maybe he’s talking about the dems and the left that have been prematurely celebrating the end of Trump for two years.

        2. I wouldn’t get too smug about winning a culture war if I were you. Most cultures die from from the inside out.

        3. Watching the delusional Left crawl farther up their own asses to avoid seeing their failures never gets old.

          Keep on keep on bitterly clinging to the Russian collusion, Rev.

    4. Just from a personal perspective, it must piss the fuck out of Trump that Smolett got a get out of jail free card after Trump and his people were put through the ringer over nothing.

      Flynn is forced to plead guilty to horseshit, but Smolett isn’t even prosecuted ’cause . . . um . . . no one knows?

      Anyway, Trump cheering on the FBI and the Justice Departments going after Smolett is mostly just campaign posturing. Let the Democrats defend Smolett–that’s a win for Trump. See the focus stay on someone who falsely accused MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters of racism–that’s a win for Trump.

      Trump is bi-winning. Win here. Win there. Win, win everywhere. And it eats you up inside, doesn’t it.

      1. “Flynn is forced to plead guilty to horseshit, but Smolett isn’t even prosecuted ’cause . . . um . . . no one knows?”

        It’s the power of White privilege.

    5. “Right-wing Robbie,” good one.

    6. Haha, we’ll be able to fill dinner tables for years with your salt, hicklib.

      1. Replacing ineffectual wingnuts as America improves is its own reward . . . and fine entertainment.

        1. “Replacing ineffectual wingnuts as America improves is its own reward . . . and fine entertainment.”

          Watching assholes celebrate a loss is one of the true enjoyments of educated people, asshole.

        2. Throwing hicklibs in the woodchipper will dramatically improve America…and its IQ.

  36. I keep hearing this theory being floated that Smolett may have known his attackers but that doesn’t mean he paid them to attack him. Maybe they decided to beat the shit out of him without him paying them.

    . . . and then he just accused MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters of beating him up for other reasons?

    Why would he lie about not knowing his attackers?

    Why would he say they were racist Trump supporters?

    In criminal law, isn’t evasion considered evidence premeditation? Wouldn’t a prosecutor ask, If he really stabbed the victim in self-defense, then why did he hide the murder weapon?

    It may not be conclusive evidence, but a totally innocent party might call the police himself to report the murder and leave the knife in the open at the scene.

    Excuse me, but if you make up a bunch of horseshit about who attacked you and why, you open yourself up to the suspicion of being full of horseshit.

    1. The Left have reinvented themselves as the Klan 2.0
      Out with cross burnings on lawns, in with race-baiting and hate crime hoaxes.
      But the effects are the same. To terrorize minority communities. To create the perception that they are under perpetual attack by a white supremacist majority.
      And the goals are the same. To sow the fear, hatred, and resentment of identity politics to divide and conquer us.
      They are societal cancer.

      And by perpetrating crime and getting away with it, Jussie is now a Hero of the People.

      The question is not why the question is when this cancer will multiply to every street corner in every leftist shithole in the country?

    2. There is a $3,500 check written by Small-it to the Nigerians in evidence.

      1. Weren’t they his trainers?

        The people making this claim are saying the check was for legitimate training services.

  37. It is simple – he has friends in high places.

    THERE IS NO RULE OF LAW ANYMORE.

    Only the rule of men (or women, to be more politically correct).

    If the American people had any ba$$s anymore they would tar and feather Foxx and run her out of town on a rail.

    But then, if the American people still had any ba$$s we would have already started shooting.

    1. “THERE IS NO RULE OF LAW ANYMORE.”

      This.

      1. And when Trump pardoned Sheriff Arapio…. Trump a motherfucker govt agent who found guilty of violating constitutional rights . Yall are so fucking blind that you condemn your own judgment because you’re too dim to keep track of all your prior opinions.

        1. “And when Trump pardoned Sheriff Arapio…. Trump a motherfucker govt agent who found guilty of violating constitutional rights.

          Is it possible for you to post without lying?
          Trump is constitutionally permitted to pardon anyone.
          And was not found guilty of your fevered fantasies.
          Pathetic pile of shit…

        2. I was a critical of Trumps pardoning of Joe, but then I’ve been a longtime critic of Joe since as an AZ resident I’ve seen firsthand what an evil person he is.

          “Sherriff” Joe has blood on his hands and should have ended up like Mussolini.

          But you are just a frothing at the mouth raving simpleton.

        3. This is whataboutism at its finest. An unrelated party performing an unrelated act is somehow supposed to excuse this?

          Plus, most libertarians condemned Trump for pardoning that asshole. Rational people will also condemn this prosecutor for essentially dismissing this case without any attempt to make the man admit to his own guilt.

    2. Agreed with AZ Gunowner again.

  38. FOXX SMELLETT

  39. Smollett forfeited a $10,000 bond and completed 16 hours of community service.

    The guy did an hour of community service for each felony! How much more do you savages want?!?

    1. He completed the community service before he was attacked.

      Good planning.

      1. They should let people build up credit like that in the event they’re ever called before the King. It could be like a bank account.

  40. And if charges ARE being dropped, what is the rationale for having him fofeit the $10,000 bond? Did he, in fact, violate any conditions that the bond was meant to have him adhere to?

    1. According to his attorney, he wasn’t going to get that money back any way. The way it works in that jurisdiction, they only post a fraction of the bond and they don’t get that part back. At least, that is what Geragos said on Adam Carolla’s podcast.

      So they literally offered up nothing. Fake community service. Fake “bond forfeit”.

      It cost him 10 grand, but that’s peanuts next to going to trial, and that $10,000 was already gone anyway.

      And in return they not only dropped all the charges without even asking for a public apology, they are fighting tooth and nail to make sure all the records are and remain sealed to prevent anyone from learning the details of what he actually did and how strong the evidence actually is.

  41. “the National District Attorney’s Association is criticizing prosecutor Kim Foxx for her decision to dismiss the case.

    “”When a prosecutor seeks to resolve a case through diversion or some other alternative to prosecution, it should be done so with an acknowledgment of culpability on the part of the defendant,” the organization said in a statement. “A case with the consequential effects of Mr. Smollett’s should not be resolved without a finding of guilt or innocence.””

    Really, the entire DA’s Association went out of its way to opine on this case? Presumably because they want us to think most prosecutors would never indulge in such shenanigans.

    Yeah, you’re above all that and it only happens in *very rare* cases.

    1. Well, that whole “…but *I’M* one of the good ones” thing is a preferred stance of a lot of male feminists and white race allies. They are willing to admit that others of their intersectional demographic are bad, but…

  42. Clearly another beneficiary of what privilege? Put another way, who do you have to blow to get off? On another point, how would that work? I mean is the punishment cunnilingus and/or fellatio since as a homosexual he would find either unpleasant. I’m going with $10k and 69 as double jeaporndy so he had to walk.

  43. ” the National District Attorney’s Association is criticizing prosecutor Kim Foxx for her decision to dismiss the case.”

    Has the Democratic Party started attacking the leaders of the association as white supremacists yet?

    1. No, but give Sharpton and Farrakan a bit of time; there must be cameras around there.

    2. That organization is controlled by people who fight criminal justice reforms that most libertarians support. This is the same group who fights to keep prosecutors from any consequence for rigging trials by not turning over evidence. The same people who try to frustrate drug law reform. The same people who try to keep bad science in the courtroom. The National District Attorney’s Association is a conservative political group.

      1. So we should allow the hoax crime accusers to carry on? Thats libertarian?

        1. You should ask yourself why you took a such special interest in this case. It’s not unusual for people to get diversion. You should be concerned about the heavy hand of the prosecutor. If the light touch of a prosecutor sets you off you might be a libertarian. There was no real victim here.

          1. Might “not” be a libertarian.

          2. Ordinary Person|3.29.19 @ 8:03AM|#
            “You should ask yourself why you took a such special interest in this case.”

            Because it’s a lefty shitbag alike you who was caught faking a ‘hate crime’. You knew that, but in your never ending campaign to promote lefty imbecility, you were acting like you didn’t.
            Fuck off.

  44. “It would have been perfectly appropriate to show Smollett leniency. In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society. ”

    Punish a Hero of the People like Jussie?
    He only helped raise awareness of the threat of white supremacy.

    1. Hell, he was willing to CREATE the “threat of white supremacy”, at some (very small) risk to himself.

  45. “It would have been perfectly appropriate to show Smollett leniency. In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society. ”

    Ok. Then why was Rita Crundwell, the Dixon, IL treasurer sentenced to 19 years and 7 months in prison for embezzlement? She was no danger to society. Oh. She is white. Right. Black justice. Black privilege. Disgusting. Obamas. Harris. Booker. Jackson.

  46. SA Foxx got a $400,000 pay day from Soros.

  47. Affirmative action justice. Jussie got his reparations. And he’s GAY too boot. Two get out of jail free cards. Oughta be codified. The more disconnected and oppressed you are by white hetero privilege, the more do-overs you get.

  48. There’s gotta be a Nigerian book deal or reality show in this somewhere.

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  50. Robby you don’t know anything about criminal law if you think people who go through pretrial diversion are required to admit guilt. This idea that “if the prosecutor thought he could prove the case then he should have required an out of court admission of guilt in order to go through diversion” is just your opinion and absolutely nothing more. It’s never done like that. The whole point of pretrial diversion is that you never get to the part where there’s an admission of guilt. Making people admit guilt outside the courtroom is nothing I’ve ever seen. It’s completely within the power of a prosecutor to decide if a person is eligible for diversion. This is sour grapes because of politics. The MAGA scum and their criminal president took a special interest in this case.

    1. WTF did you just write?

      He paid two guys to attack him and made about as bog of deal about racist, homophobe as possible.

      What a dumb as shit post

      1. I’m don’t speak retard. What did you say?

        1. Ordinary Person|3.29.19 @ 7:50AM|#
          “I’m don’t speak retard. What did you say?”

          Oh, you’re fluent in retard and lies.
          Fuck off, you pathetic piece of shit.

    2. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel and Chicago PD Superintendent Eddie Johnson are outraged over Smollett’s hoax and took a special interest in this case because they are MAGA scum supporting a criminal president?

      I would pay to see you stand in Eddie Johnson’s face and say that.

      1. According to Eddie Johnson one reason he’s pissed is because Smollett’s stupidity excites and delights the actual racists and makes it harder for real victims of racist violence to come forward.

  51. “Chicago official says city is seeking $130,000 from “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett to cover police investigation costs”, Midland Reporter-Telegram (mrt), 28 Mar 2019.

    CHICAGO (AP) ? Chicago official says city is seeking $130,000 from “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett to cover police investigation costs.

    Jussie Smollett $130,000 – News

    Jussie Smollett told to pay $130,000 to police
    BBC News? 4 hours ago
    Jussie Smollett has been ordered to pay $130,000 (?99,000) to cover the cost of the investigation into an alleged assault on him in January in Chicago.

    Jussie Smollett update: City of Chicago asks Jussie Smollett to pay for $130,000 cost
    KABC 7 Los Angeles? 11 hours ago
    The City of Chicago has sent a letter to the attorneys representing Jussie Smollett.

    1. The State strikes back… and the fucking president sicced the FBI on him. It’s fraud to mail letters with make believe words!!!

      1. “The State strikes back… and the fucking president sicced the FBI on him. It’s fraud to mail letters with make believe words!!!”

        Scumbag, I’m waiting for your impassioned defense of Manafort, who is guilty of nothing other than fake words.

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  53. ‘In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society.’

    You mean like possibly inciting a race war?

    1. Right??? This wasn’t some nobody playing a harmless practical joke that ended up technically being illegal. This was serious shit, obviously with political motivations.

  54. Calls for explanation are inherently racist.

  55. “In general, we should not send people to prison unless they pose some actual danger to society”

    I don’t know what mental gymnastics you did to reach the conclusion that Smollett doesn’t pose actual danger to society, but had he not been stupid and succeeded with his hoax, innocent people could have been jailed wrongly for a long time. They could have been wrongly convicted too.

    1. Exactly this. Fabricating a violent felony is on par with conspiracy to commit a kidnapping, because that’s exactly what the police are going to do to whoever they identify as a suspect.

  56. Celebrity justice in America…meanwhile citizens with misdemeanor charges get thousands in fines, incarceration time, months of community service and classes…justice is dead in this country unless you’ve got a lot of money…

  57. The entire left has come mentally undone. Smollett and Foxx are just the latest examples of the nonsense. I guess now they can continue looking for those evil Trump, MAGA hat wearing attackers. LOL

  58. RAHM EMANUEL BLAMES TRUMP FOR ALLEGED SMOLLETT CRIME

    http://tinyurl.com/yxfs9c3e

    Of course it’s Trump’s fault. Because Orange Man Bad.

  59. Just another example of the bullshit 2 tiered justice system we have now.

    This guy should be getting crucified for what he did. With how the black community acts over these types of things, this could have caused fucking riots with millions in property damage, people being hurt or killed, etc. This wasn’t some practical joke gone wrong. We’re lucky that kind of stuff didn’t happen.

    This stupid whore is just letting him off because she’s black, and a Democrat stooge. There must be a way for somebody to reverse her decision on this? I can’t imagine there isn’t a procedure for charging people in cases where people are negligent/corrupt in their duties, in this case not filing charges?

  60. Article states “Community service and some sort of fine is a perfectly reasonable conclusion to this case:.

    I disagree with that. This was very reckless, and could have easily resulted in innocent Trump supporters/people with MAGA hats/white people or any perceived as such getting attacked in retaliation. This was very dangerous race baiting. Smollet definitely should do time.

  61. Surely, there would have been buildings burned down and people beaten or even killed.
    This had potentially very dangerous consequences!

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  65. “this investigation was done honestly, competently and independently.”

    “No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear,” he said. “I know there were many opinions expressed by people who were not part of the investigation ? including people in government ? but none of that mattered to us. Opinions are irrelevant, and they were all uninformed by insight into our investigation because we did our investigation the right way.”

    “our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case,” he said.

  66. I disagree that this would have been enough punishment. Had they found people to pin this on, would he have given up his story? I doubt it. People that say a fake crime happened deserve the punishment that someone would have gotten had they taken the fall. If they’re willing to lie and get an innocent person jail time, they deserve the same.

  67. False accusers such as Smollett are very much dangers to the public; the fact that they employ police to wield guns against innocent people rather than do so themselves makes zero difference, morally or legally.

    If Foxx does not go to prison for corruption, then I hope somebody does something about her.

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