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Bernie Sanders Articulates His Libertarian Foreign Policy During CNN Townhall: Reason Roundup

Plus: Sanders on democratic socialism, Medicare for All, and what to do about Venezuela

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) answered audience members' questions about his policy views at a CNN townhall event Monday night, touting Medicare for All, free college tuition, and higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans—none of which are new or surprising political positions for the 2020 Democratic presidential candidate.

"I believe that healthcare is a human right, not a privilege, and we've got to guarantee healthcare to all our people as a right," said Sanders at the event, which was hosted by Wolf Blitzer.

During one of the more interesting moments, an audience member asked Sanders to explain why he believes socialism is better than capitalism. Sanders quickly asked the audience member to clarify that she meant democratic socialism rather than full-on socialism. Sanders was only game to defend the former, which he defined as "having, in a civilized society, the understanding that all of our people live in security and dignity." This, of course, is the watered-down and inoffensive definition of democratic socialism that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) has used when pressed.

Sanders made clear that when it comes to domestic issues, he thinks more government intervention is the answer to every public policy question. But on international affairs, the independent Democrat took a very different tone. As the townhall turned toward foreign policy, Sanders sounded downright libertarian. Sanders decried the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela and chided the regime of President Nicholas Maduro, whose government is no longer recognized as legitimate by the United States.

"What's going on in Venezuela is terrible," said Sanders. "People are living in hunger. I strongly believe there has to be an international humanitarian effort to improve lives for the people. I think the evidence is pretty clear the last election was not a free and fair election."

But Sanders did not believe the U.S. military should intervene in the country, in part because of the U.S.'s long and sordid history of making things worse.

"I'm old to enough to remember the war in Vietnam, and I was as active as I could, trying to keep the US from going to war in Iraq," said Sanders. "I think sometimes you have unintended consequences when a powerful nation goes in and tells people who their government will be. My view, whether it is Saudi Arabia, which is a despotic regime, or Venezuela, I think we've got to do everything we can to create a democratic climate, but I do not believe in U.S. military intervention in those countries."

And in a true display of principle, Sanders offered measured praise for President Trump's decision to meet with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un.

"I think the idea of going and meeting face-to-face with your adversaries is a good idea," said Sanders. "I would like the president of the United States to bring Iran and Saudia Arabia together, to bring the Palestinians and Israel together. So I wish the president the best of luck. This is a very important issue, and if we can get nuclear weapons out of the hands of Kim Jong-un that would be a very good thing."

Sanders' noninterventionist foreign policy stands in stark contrast to his hyper-interventionist domestic policy. Still, it was refreshing to hear a Democratic presidential candidate concede that Trump's break with the (often bipartisan) hawkish consensus in Washington, D.C., is good news.

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Speaking of Venezula, Maduro's government briefly detained several Univision journalists. Univision's Jorge Ramos was interviewing Maduro, who apparently took umbrage at a certain line of questioning and decided to prematurely end the conversation. Later, his staff took Ramos's phone away. The ordeal lasted three hours, according to CNN.

FREE MARKETS

Sanctions may have failed to cripple North Korea's economy, according to several analysts and prominent defectors quoted by The Wall Street Journal, which notes that "about 70% of North Korea's economy is now market-based, according to estimates from Kwak In-ok, a North Korea economy researcher at Sookmyung Women's University in Seoul. As sanctions have tightened, he said, illicit trade has expanded, helping to keep businesses running." More:

North Korean households now generate more than 60% of their income from informal market activities, according to Mr. Kim at Seoul National University in his recent book, "Unveiling the North Korean Economy."

Some residents pay fees to be exempt from showing up to their official state-assigned jobs, which offer paltry salaries. They then make money in the informal market economy, and hand over a portion to their official job's manager, who doesn't report their absence to higher officials, according to former residents and researchers.

One North Korean escapee who left the country in 2017 said he made a living by setting aside some shrimp and fish he caught while working at a seafood company to sell through the black market. Other families he knew made shoe soles and sold them to other families that made shoe tops.

"It's all capitalism there now," he said of North Korea.

Capitalism, it would seem, finds a way.

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  1. Today in Everyone Is Offended: “Chris Evans Helping Regina King Up the Oscars Steps Sparked a Debate About Male Feminism.”

    She should have been helping HIM.

    1. i don’t get it

      1. It’s a spoiler for the next Avengers movie.

    2. Hello.

      “Sanders quickly asked the audience member to clarify that she meant democratic socialism rather than full-on socialism.”

      Yeh. No.

      Time to push back on that too.

      Socialism is just socialism. Period.

      1. I’d like him or Alexandria Donkey Chompers to explain, in some detail, the difference between “Democratic” Socialism and “Icky” Socialism, such as Venezuela.

        1. Socialism is when the party is the Vanguard of the Proletariat exercising total power.

          Democratic socialism is when the party represents the 99% and so when they have power the people are represented whether they like it or not, so the party gets total power.

          See the difference?

          1. Tyranny of the majority.

        2. Socialism is failed democratic socialism. It’s all pretty and nice until kids are foraging in garbage trucks for food.

          1. ‘Democratic’ Socialism is the strategy to take over the USA since a tyrannical grab for power is not as likely to be successful.

            Having voters accept Socialists being elected to office has had mixed results.

        3. in democratic socialism the sheep get to vote.

          In the other kind only the wolves get a choice.

          Either way the sheep get eaten.

        4. Socialism is when a small group of thieves decide to steal from everybody else, Democratic Socialism is when everybody else decides they’d like to be thieves, too.

        5. Socialism is when a small group of thieves decide to steal from everybody else, Democratic Socialism is when everybody else decides they’d like to be thieves, too.

        6. Democratic Socialism is the citizens of Athens giving the death penalty to Socrates for encouraging independent thought.

      2. I’ve always seen “democratic socialism” as simply a strategy for foisting socialism on a people, basically by playing the Long Game.

  2. Today in Everyone Is Offended: “Chris Evans Helping Regina King Up the Oscars Steps Sparked a Debate About Male Feminism.”

    she should have helped him up the steps

    1. That would have been reverse female misogyny.

  3. “The secret lives of Facebook moderators” are pretty miserable, and make a strong argument that there are some jobs that no human being should have to do. Luckily, there’s such a thing as automation.

    why would i have this human being punch me in the arm when i could ask this robot to punch my entire body

    1. Fastest way to ensure that robots become self-aware and decide to kill humans is to have moderate social media

  4. Capitalism, it would seem, finds a way.

    now, the race to take credit

  5. Later, his staff took Ramos’s phone away.

    at least maduro didnt start tweeting with it like trump would have

    1. There is still time for Jeff or Tony to win dumb comment of the day, but strong entry into the race.

  6. Another high-profile hate crime looks like a hoax.

    i regret to inform everyone that i’ve been making up how much these hoaxes anger me.

  7. No good news today

    1. I mean…it is Trump’s fault that today is a slow news day!

  8. I think the evidence is pretty clear the last election was not a free and fair election.

    EVERGREEN STATEMENT HERE IN AMERICA.

  9. More bad economic news. This is particularly alarming even by the standards of the terrible Drumpf economy.

    Home Prices in 20 U.S. Cities Post Smallest Gain in Four Years

    Think things are bad in Venezuela? They’ll be even worse in the US if Mueller doesn’t remove Putin’s Puppet from office soon.

    #DrumpfRecession
    #UnbanPalinsButtplug

    1. PalinButtplug was banned?

      WHY DO I MISS EVERYTHING?!

      1. It sucks doesn’t it?

        Fortunately we now have “moneyshot” whose comments are quite explicitly modeled after Mr. Buttplug’s.

        #MoneyshotIsTheNewPalinsButtplug

        1. What did he do? I’m curious.

          1. Apparently he posted instructions on how to access kiddie porn. He got caught recently posting as “moneyshot” because he’s incapable of disguising his verbal tics.

            1. Wow. Palin. A pedo leftie.

              Projection personified that guy.

              1. Weigel is a truly sick motherfucker. He really should just give in to those suicidal impulses of his.

              2. I can’t imagine how you would know how to access that crap on the darkweb unless you were into it. It is so dangerous to have or be associated with it that only someone into would want any knowledge of even how to obtain it.

                I always knew there was something really off about him. So, this doesn’t totally surprise me. But it still is a bit shocking he is that depraved and that reckless.

            2. That is a fucking lie.

              Conservatives campaigned to have the Buttplug banned. They can’t take classic liberal views.

              1. This place is getting weirder and weirder.

              2. Yeah, Reason let him rant and rave on here for over ten years and then just one day banned him because conservatives demanded it. That sounds so plausible.

                1. Red Rocks is correct I remember seeing the gross pedo stuff before Reason nuked it and banned him.

              3. What’s up moneyshot? Do you have any economic links to share today? Any Stormy Daniels news?

              4. moneyshot|2.26.19 @ 10:37AM|#

                That is a fucking lie.

                Conservatives campaigned to have the Buttplug banned. They can’t take classic liberal views.

                Pay your bet then stop fucking kids screech.

                1. Can we actually exchange the order of those? Not discounting the importance of the bet or anything…

              5. That totally doesn’t sound like Palin’s Buttplug.

                1. He called himself “the Buttplug”

                  He not only referred to himself in the third person, but he did so to remind everyone that he REPEATEDLY chose a screen name that meant he was proud of being in the dark and covered in shit.

              6. Ah Reason… A few commenters who discuss things, a bunch of trolls with troll sock puppets, Reason staff with socks to increase web traffic, and Reason staff who write against Libertarian interests.

                What a website.

              7. That is a fucking lie.

                Normally the 13th Amendment prevents someone from getting owned like you did on a regular basis.

  10. So I wish the president the best of luck.

    Only Nixon could praise China.

  11. North Korean households now generate more than 60% of their income from informal market activities…

    BREAKING NEWS: North Korea Failing State Because Of Free Market

  12. Two unrelated stories taken together go a long ways to explaining how Progs actually think and why they hate the 2nd Amendment so much.

    First, we have the Daily Beast doxing a pastry chef who works at one of Trump’s hotels in Florida as an evil Q conspiracy theorist. This women posted some conspiracy Q stuff on her personal social media account. There is no evidence or reason to believe that this has anything to do with her work or Trump even knows who she is. She is just an ordinary person who expressed an opinion. But the Beast takes great pride in doxxing her and sees it as a big story.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2…..-property/

    Then we have the case of a guy in Kentucky who had some lunatic pull a gun on him at Cosco for the crime of wearing a MAGA hat.

    http://spectator.org/the-lefts-rage-against-maga/

    Look at the two stories together the left’s modus operenti becomes clear. The media doxes people and uses the threat of mob violence to terrorize the public into submission. This is what fascism looks like. This is also why the left and the media hate the 2nd Amendment so much. If the public were disarmed this sort of thing would be much more effective.

  13. Univision’s Jorge Ramos was interviewing Maduro, who apparently took umbrage at a certain line of questioning and decided to prematurely end the conversation. Later, his staff took Ramos’s phone away. The ordeal lasted three hours, according to CNN.

    Jorge, likely, still thinks Trump is the REAL tyrant.

    1. Socialist apologists continue to say that Maduro and Socialism are being undermined by Trump and Capitalists, and that is why Venezuela’s Socialism is not working.

      Funny how the United States of America is undermined by Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, and other tyrants of the World and America is working out just fine.

      1. Socialism is the stronger system despite the fact that when both exist it is socialism that fails. The stronger system simply cannot exist on the same planet as the weaker one.

      2. It is also funny how socialism is the superior system yet somehow capitist countries always manage to ensure socialism fails. If socialism is so superior, you would think socialism would cause capitalist countries to fail not the other way around. Funny that.

        Capitalism is a failure yet somehow the US, the most notorious capitalist country in the world, is this all powerful nation that destroys any socialist country that tries to defy it.

        1. By your definition we’ve been a socialist country since the New Deal-Great Society.

          1. Not by my defintion at all. We have never been a purely free market country, no nation ever is. But we are certainly not socialist.

            1. I agree we’re not a socialist country. Medicare, expanded Medicaid, Obamacare subsidies, social security isn’t socialism.

              1. No they are not. They are socialist policies but it takes more than a few policies to make a country socialist within the ordinary meaning of the term.

              2. What in God’s name is your point?

                1. (that was to OP)

            2. Why obsess over labels?

              You’re right. We’re all mixed economies. Let’s stop beating each other over the head with terminology and argue about things that are real. How much or how little should the public sector be involved in healthcare, etc.

              1. Extremely little. Less than it is now.

                Happy?

              2. “…argue about things that are real. How much or how little should the public sector be involved in healthcare, etc.”

                We have. You lose, scumbag.

              3. “”Why obsess over labels?””

                Because you need labels to put people under so you can apply identity politics. Which is what you like doing.

            3. By definition, the USA has government control some of the means of production so we’re Socialist (Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, TARP).

              The difference is that many Americans are trying to end Socialism in the USA. Socialists in Socialist nations like Sweden are firmly in charge and have been for generations.

              If the USA was as Socialist as Socialists would like, they would not be trying to so hard to turn us Communist.

              1. How are Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and TARP means of production? What do they produce?

          2. America is more Stalinist than socialist.

            1. That might be the dumbest thing I have ever read. Stalin was a true believer socialist. He never gave up on communism or communist economics. What he gave up on was the international nature of communism and embraced nationalism.

              1. The New Deal was absolutely a copy of Stalinist policies and even to this day, almost every aspect of our economy falls under the purview of some regulatory board. It’s quite similar to Stalinism just without the ruthless dictator . They don’t set production targets but that’s the main difference.

                1. Of the Trump haters will claim he’s a ruthless dictator so there’s that.

                2. Did the New Deal create a terror state? Did it starve millons of farmers in the midwest to death? Not last I looked.

                  I don’t like the New Deal either. But it wasn’t Stalinist.

                  1. It absolutely was Stalinist. I’m talking about the economic system. Again, there’s no ruthless mass murdering dictator implementing it but the system was quite similar.

                    1. there’s no ruthless mass murdering dictator implementing it

                      Details.

                    2. The New Deal was more corporatist (had much on common with Mussolini’s economic policies) to the extent it had any coherent ideological basis.

        2. It is also funny how socialism is the superior system yet somehow capitist countries always manage to ensure socialism fails.

          I frequently liken socialism to racism/anti-Semitism. If “x” is so superior…why is “y” so easily and consistently able to “ruin” it?

          1. Socialism works (well it doesn’t, but people think it could) when everything is perfectly figured out and arranged. Capitalism works because nothing is perfect or organized from the top down and people have conflicting goals and limited information.

  14. ‘Sanders was only game to defend the former, which he defined as “having, in a civilized society, the understanding that all of our people live in security and dignity.”‘

    Oh, that’s it… well, why didn’t you say so in the first place? Who could argue with that?

    1. It is completely wrong to hate someone because of the color of their sking but totally okay to hate someone because of their good fortune or success in life.

      This is what socialists actually believe.

      1. I will NEVER stop hating skiers who dress in Neon green.

        1. At least they are not snowboarders.

      2. Actually, all the American socialists I know would argue that it’s not wrong at all to hate someone because of the color of their skin as long as that skin color is white. This is what they actually believe.

    2. What Sanders said is an aspiration, not a description of means and methods. It does really mean anything as a distinction between what he wants and “full on” socialism.

  15. I love Chris Evans so much. Why is he so wonderfil?

    1. What a horrible society we live in that a man helping a woman up some stairs would spark a debate. Some people seem to really want to create a world where no one helps or has any concern for anyone else. It is just gross.

      1. It’s weird. The linked article, which is BuzzFeed by the way, you can do better ENB, is not as angry as the title would lead you to believe.

        1. And usually the “outrage” consists of a few jackasses on Twitter.

      2. That’s not true John. Progressives want the government to be everyone’s helping hand

        1. Ruling.
          Ruling hand.

    2. He sure did give the Covington MAGA teens the tweet they deserved.

    3. You should check out Chris Evans’ Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/ChrisEvans

      A typical collection of rancid #Resistance #Woke rubbish.

      Very far from any kind of Captain America in real life.

      1. Here’s what Chris Evans, Captain America, thought of the Covington kids: http://twitter.com/ChrisEvans/…..9891320832

      2. Wait, I thought Chris Evans was a ginger haired English radio host.

  16. Line of the day on the internet; As of this morning Donald Trump has now been in Vietnam longer than Senator Blumenthal.

    1. +100

    2. Trump is probably being more successful at mitigating Communism’s spread and danger than JFK, LBJ, Nixon combined.

  17. I am disgusted with the level of transphobia in this country. It’s 2019!

    Across the U.S. transgender athletes are breaking barriers in high school, college, and pro sports and being embraced by teammates and fans. But resentments can still flare when transgender women start winning and dominating their sport.

    Transphobia among cisfemale athletes is especially offensive. If a transgirl or transwoman defeated you, it just means you need to work harder.

    #TransWomenAreWomen

    1. Don’t keep score, just give everyone a medal and move on.

    2. I too agree with the Progressives who say that women need to get to the back of the bus. Men Women with dicks belong up front. Sure, it may exactly reflect the old standard that existed before feminism but if that’s the price of making sure men women with dicks are in control of all spaces well that’s just an outcome that feminists are going to need to accept!

      In all seriousness though, at some point the transgender movement is going to explode every last bit of gains made by gays, lesbians, and yes even baseline feminists. They are slitting their own throats, and slowly some of them are starting to realize it.

    3. So OBL is really an East German.

  18. Sanders does not support an anti-interventionist foreign policy. He is all in on arming Ukraine and continuing sanctions against Russia. Not to mention that he was awfully silent about foreign intervention under the Obama administration.

    The only anti-interventionist Democrat running for president is Tulsi Gabbard. There is no way to polish the turd that is Bernie.

    1. ^This^

      Also, the 2016 Libertarian Party candidate, Gary Johnson supported US military intervention for “humanitarian war”.

      1. Yes. He also supported going after Kony in 2012. The Weekly Standard wrote a positive article about Johnson in 2012, commending him for supporting a permanent base in Afghanistan and support for “humanitarian” wars.

        http://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mc…..tarian-war

        http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2012/04/1…..s-element/

        1. So, I guess if we are going by the LP’s recent standards about what defines a non-interventionist, Bernie is a peacenick, whereas Tulsi Gabbard is dangerously radical, because she does not accept the foreign policy consensus.

          1. The LP: The Alternative that Wasn’t

  19. “The secret lives of Facebook moderators” are pretty miserable

    It’s an interesting article, but mostly exaggerated. If you read to the end you discover the job is actually pretty chill. Of course, the job is not for everyone. I think the article is trying to inflame hysteria about mental health and gun control. Having said that, the break time regime (total 1 hour) seems a bit harsh. But maybe that’s standard.

    1. I stopped reading when the article said the average salary at Facebook is $240,000. No credibility.

  20. “Today in everyone is offended”

    Not as pithy but it’s more like just a couple of people who are always offended by everyone

  21. “Today in Everyone Is Offended: “Chris Evans Helping Regina King Up the Oscars Steps Sparked a Debate About Male Feminism.””

    Wow these girls sure seem like a lot of fun!

    1. Don’t they. Nothing says romance like “how dare you keep me from tripping up the stairs!!”

  22. “Sanders quickly asked the audience member to clarify that she meant democratic socialism rather than full-on socialism. Sanders was only game to defend the former, which he defined as “having, in a civilized society, the understanding that all of our people live in security and dignity. This, of course, is the watered-down and inoffensive definition of democratic socialism that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D?NY) has used when pressed.”

    “Civilized society” where “all people live in security and dignity” . . . except for shareholders and property owners, which he plans to drag away in chains if they resist the nationalization of their businesses and wealth. And he thinks this is perfectly appropriate if 51% of the people vote for it?

    That may be better than authoritarian socialism–in the same way that Chavez was qualitatively better with his popular mandate than Maduro is with his naked authoritarianism. Even the qualitatively better one led to a quantitative poverty rate skyrocketing to 90%, an inflation rate of over 4,000 percent, and mass malnutrition because an oil rich society can no longer feed its people.

    There isn’t really anything “inoffensive” about inflicting those kinds of outcomes on the American people by expropriating their property just because doing so is popular. It’s only inoffensive to the morally corrupted who have no sense of obligation to respect other people’s rights.

  23. Sanders quickly asked the audience member to clarify that she meant democratic socialism rather than full-on socialism. Sanders was only game to defend the former, which he defined as “having, in a civilized society, the understanding that all of our people live in security and dignity.”

    LOL, what the fuck does that even mean in practical terms?

    Oh, right, democratic socialism, like they have in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

    1. Security and dignity….by way of submitting to the state. They truly believe ‘free shit’ = freedom.

      1. “Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do” – Rudy Guiliani

    2. It means nothing but misdirection. It is a “don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain” moment.

    3. It’s the same as declaring health care a human right – since security, dignity, and healthcare all rely on someone else to provide them, it means we’re all slaves as far as Bernie is concerned. Doctors and hospitals and medicine cost too much? No worries, we’ve got men with guns who can force them to provide it for cheap. Those same men with guns can force “the rich” to pay the cheap price. As long as you pay the men with guns, everything else becomes affordable.

      1. That’s the reasoning. But I haven’t noticed health care becoming cheaper as it becomes more and more socialized because it’s a “right”. Doctors have many more patients to care for, visits to the ER involve longer waits, because even if they are providing it for cheap, the price the consumer pays isn’t cheap

        And after you get done paying the men with guns, the men with guns make you pay the insurance companies as well.

  24. Former Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen has taken plenty of hits from President Donald Trump. Now she’s delivering a few of her own.

    In a radio interview Monday, the ex-central bank chief questioned Trump’s comprehension of monetary policy as well as his understanding of basis economics.

    Asked if she thinks the president “has a grasp of economic policy,” Yellen flatly responded, “No, I do not.”

    “Well, I doubt that he would even be able to say that the Fed’s goals are maximum employment and price stability, which is the goals that Congress have assigned to the Fed,” she added in the interview with American Public Media’s “Marketplace.” “He’s made comments about the Fed having an exchange-rate objective in order to support his trade plans, or possibly targeting the U.S. balance of trade. And, you know, I think comments like that shows a lack of understanding of the impact of the Fed on the economy, and appropriate policy goals.”

    CNBC

    Yes, Trump is an economic idiot. But we knew that.

    1. Shouldn’t you be out collecting kiddie porn or something shreek?

      1. Loves Obama, squelches on bets AND is into kiddie porn?

        He’s a peach to bring home to mama!

      2. Quit lying you Trumptard.

        1. I only know what everyone says. You got banned and it wasn’t for nothing and I see no reason to believe that the people saying it was for posting instructions for how to access kiddie porn isn’t true. That is not something someone would make up.

          You do know you can get five years for a single picture of that stuff don’t you? And the FBI plays dirty. It is only by dumb luck they haven’t figured out your IP address and nailed you. You totally strike me as the kind of moron is thinks he is smart enough to get away with it.

          1. “Libertarians” hate me because I don’t suck Trump cock like you do.

            It is that simple.

            1. No, they are disgusted by you because you make children suck YOUR cock.

            2. People hate you because you are demented wierdo. Get help. Seriously.

          2. These are credible accusations and we must take them seriously no matter what.

            1. There are a ton of people who say it happened. There is no way to check because Reason would have deleted any posts like that. We do know that he got banned for some reason.

              One thing you can say for Reason is that they do not ban people lightly. They don’t ban you for being an asshole or having unpopular views. The only ban people for things like doxing or trying to shut down the site. So, clearly he did somthing like that.

              You tell me why the people claiming he got banned for kiddie porn would be making that up and not just saying why he was banned? Moreover, if he was banned for some other reason, why isn’t someone calling BS on the kiddie porn story?

              I see no reason to believe anything but that the accusation is true. Do you?

              1. I was making a tongue in cheek snarky remark alluding to the Kavanaugh accusers which Palin’s Buttplug and his ilk insisted we take seriously. And now the irony here is that he is accused of something we can’t really prove but it is being taken seriously. Love it!

    2. Watching the Fed flail around trying to undo what Janet Yellen did at the Federal Reserve is among the biggest economic problems we have right now. The market started flailing when the Fed tried to stop maintaining Yellen’s level of purchases, and it was so bad, they had to stop. Meanwhile, the market can’t accurately price interest rates with almost a third of U.S. debt sitting at the Fed–encouraging the government to fund spending levels we probably couldn’t afford if Yellen and company hadn’t plunged headfirst into the Treasury market to begin with.

      Fuck Yellen.

      P.S. Maximizing employment is a shithead goal of the Fed. The primary goal of the Fed should be to protect against inflation. Listening to Yellen talk about this is like listening to Hitler complain about Stalin’s authoritarianism. Looking at Yellen’s tenure, you might think the purpose of the Fed was to bail out banks and keep the stock market as frothy and bubbly as possible.

      1. The Fed should not exist. America got along fine without it.

    3. OK, you’re back on your game.

      #DrumpfRecession

    4. Trump is ignorant of monetary policy, but I wouldn’t consider Yellen to be all that better informed. They both support loose money, so they should be allies. Why can’t those two numskulls be friends?

    5. Why did you come back after they banned you, pedo?

      1. He’s a classic liberal pedophile who doesn’t respect propert rights. Reason said leave. He ignored their request.

  25. Calling yourself a Democratic Socialist is like calling yourself a Republican Fascist. It may be true but why do it to yourself?

    Bernie = dumber than any Republican.

    1. “Bernie = dumber than any Republican.”

      That’s not true. There are Republicans that are even worse than Sanders.

    2. Actually democratic socialists like Bernie and AOC have a lot in common with us left-libertarians. AOC wants to #AbolishICE for example. And Bernie supports abortion access even in the 9th month of pregnancy.

    3. Calling yourself “moneyshot” after being banned for kiddie porn as “sarah palin’s buttplug” is like calling yourself “kid fucker”

      You can do it, but everyone will know you’re like Cathy and you fuck kids.

  26. “I believe that healthcare is a human right, not a privilege, and we’ve got to guarantee healthcare to all our people as a right,” said Sanders

    What do you mean, “our people”?

    1. You. You is his people. He rules over you.

      /slaps Rich’s propeller beanie off his head.

    2. And if the doctors won’t perform for the money we offer them, we’ll print more. And if they still won’t accept it, off to the medical re-education camp, er school.

      1. Yeah. I’ve wondered how a good or service that must be produced by someone else is a right. What about my right to not produce it.

    3. Americans. He’s a national socialist.

  27. Nice juxtaposition of Sanders extolling the virtues of the vision he has of democratic socialism with its reality in Venezuela.

    1. On no, Chavez isn’t democratic socialism!

      That’s . . . um . . . “corruption”. Yeah, see, they have the wrong guy driving the bus. There’s nothing wrong with the bus.

      1. Maybe he’s a democratic socialist in Hell.

  28. Bernie could win the nomination if the other candidates split the vote 36 ways. I’m as frightened by the prospect as you people are. Democrats need to pick someone credible to coalesce behind sooner rather than later.

    1. Bernie is being dragged to the left because now that the social justice warriors have chased the white, blue collar, rust belt voters out of the party and into Trump’s arms, the Democrat base is now further to the left than Bernie Sanders.

      Sooner or later, Democrats will come to realize that in order to win a national election, they’l need to woo Trump voters back. That’s hard when they can’t seem to stop themselves from demonizing Trump voters at every turn. I mean, what’s the point of being an SJW if you can’t demonize Trump voters?

      1. I read that 10 million Obama voters voted for Trump in ’16. Hello deplorables right?

      2. Bernie hasn’t changed his opinion on anything in 40 years. He made a bunch of young, bearded idiots think he could perform socialist magic (look what he did with that bird!), and a lot of them are still chasing the dream. His cult is smaller, but nobody else has a cult, and that’s what has me worried. He easily lost in a one-frontrunner field, but in a field of dozens?

        True Trump believers may form a larger or smaller cult, but they’re hardly enough to put Trump back in the White House, even if he does survive the looming shitstorm. I don’t want Bernie in the White House.

        1. Why was the primary only Bernie and Hillary? Because every other dem knew the DNC fix was in for Hillary and didn’t waste their time and money.

        2. Bernie Sanders’ Issue Positions

          Notice the gun control issue. Bernie tells his Vermont supporters that he is okay with guns (Because supposedly Vermont is very pro-gun) but wants strict gun control for everyone in the USA.

          In 1993, Sanders voted against the Brady Bill, which mandated federal background checks when buying guns and imposed a waiting period on firearm purchasers in the United States; the bill passed by a vote of 238?187

          In 1996, Sanders voted against a bill that would have prohibited police purchasing of tanks and armored carriers

          In 2005, he voted for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act. The act’s purpose was to prevent firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable for negligence when crimes have been committed with their products. As of 2016 Sanders has said that he has changed his position and would vote for legislation to defeat this bill -Wikipedia

    2. What do you have against Bernie? You can’t possibly think he’d lose to Drumpf, who moneyshot just proved is literally the worst President ever.

      Kamala Harris is still my first choice but I’d happily vote for Bernie if he gets the nomination.

      1. He looks like he gets dressed in a dumpster, and he can’t seem to muster anything resembling a smile without actually taking a painful shit in his diaper.

        1. Those are quite shallow reasons to oppose a politician.

          Plus, Drumpf is orange. I’ll take the uncombed-hair guy over the orange guy any day.

          1. Klobuchar ate a salad with a comb when her staff couldn’t find her a fork. Lots of hairdo-related stuff this time around.

          2. Beautiful people usually don’t go for politics.

      2. But Bernie said he was against Koch brothers immigration.

        Doesn’t that make him racist?

  29. Trump comes in last in expert presidential rankings survey
    By MATTHEW NUSSBAUM 02/19/2018 12:52 PM EST

    Barack Obama and Ronald Reagan are up, Bill Clinton is down and Donald Trump is off to a historically bad start ? and the greats, meanwhile, remain the greats.

    That was the finding of the 2018 Presidents & Executive Politics Presidential Greatness Survey, released Monday by professors Brandon Rottinghaus of the University of Houston and Justin S. Vaughn of Boise State University. The survey results, ranking American presidents from best to worst, were based on responses from 170 current and recent members of the Presidents and Executive Politics section of the American Political Science Association.

    Dead last? You Trumptards should be asahmed.

    (Politico)

    1. There it is. Scientific proof Drumpf is the worst President ever. But what else would you expect from a literal intelligence asset of a hostile foreign power?

      1. 2018 Presidents & Executive Politics Presidential Greatness Survey

        DAMN POINTY HEADED LIBERALS WITH ALL THERE BOOK LEARNIN!

        1. The thing is, it doesn’t even take an expert to see what a disaster Drumpf has been. The economy is in ruins. He’s making unforgivable foreign policy mistakes like urging a withdrawal from Syria. And he’s directly responsible for the rise in hate crimes like the one against Jussie Smollett.

          Worst. President. Ever.

      2. It’s also nice to see Obama’s rank increase. He personally created the strongest economy this country has ever seen. Also, he deserves no blame whatsoever for Russia hacking the election.

    2. Why are you disrespecting Reason’s request for you to leave? You got banned. Live by your principles and respect their property rights.

      1. Reason has my email address.

        For all I know some conservative asswipe in IT made an editorial decision on his own.

        fuck him — and you too.

        1. Oh so you clearly understand that they banned you as you admit, you just don’t care.

          So you were lying about being a classical and you don’t respect property rights.

          “For all I know some conservative asswipe in IT made an editorial decision on his own.”

          Which means you didn’t contact them to find out, you just decided to ignore their ban and say “fuck em.”

          Also I’m not a child so you would have no interest in fucking me.

        2. So it’s official:

          Moneyshot is Palin’s buttplug.

      2. Out of curiosity, what does it take to get banned here?

        1. He got banned for posting kiddie porn links.

          1. You lying piece of shit.

            1. Saw it myself you sad pedophile.

          2. That seems fair.

            1. Yeah I saw the posts, it was pretty sick.

            2. For once I agree with you Tony. That is just screwed up.

        2. Shriek got banned multiple times but stupidly lied and claimed he fogot password MULTIPLE TIMES imstead of admitting he got banned. It was comical watching him lie about it.

          1. He used to be shrike. I never heard what he did to get banned with that name. Then he came back as Palin’s butt plug and was that for a very long time. And now he has been banned with that name. He is a seriously depraved person.

            1. With no respect for property rights.

              1. Who refers to himself in the third person.

                1. Jimmy on Seinfeld?

                  1. Lololol I guess it isn’t unprecedented.

                2. “”Who refers to himself in the third person.”‘

                  Damn, it’s been Bob Dole all along.

            2. He used to be shrike. I never heard what he did to get banned with that name

              It wasn’t banned. The hicklib admitted to using burner emails to set up his logins, and had to change twice because he accidentally logged out and forgot which email address he used to set up the account. The posting of kiddie porn was the bannable offense.

              It takes a lot of Reason to ban your account. You have to completely shit up threads like Hihn or Mary Stack, or post kiddie porn like shriek. Other than that, they’ve been extremely lenient on what they’ll allow. For all the shit that they get, they could have easily shut down the comment sections entirely after the woodchipper incident just to save themselves any future headaches. That they allow as much discussion here as they do is a credit to their dedication to free speech.

              1. Reason would be out of business if it weren’t for commenters and the web traffic they provide along with the networking that this circle provides.

              2. That they allow as much discussion here as they do is a credit to their dedication to free speech.

                Nah, entirely irrelevant.

                They just don’t have enough confidence in their content to maintain pageviews (and ad revenue) without a comment section. Simply put, if an article has a comment section you get a lot of people that keep coming back. Without a comment section, it’s a “one and done” deal.

                But with or without a comment section, there are no free speech or Free Speech issues to be had. Heck, they could have a draconian moderating policy where they only allow proscribed views and dissidents who are so over-the-top they strawman themselves, and it still wouldn’t be a free speech issue.

                1. Heck, they could have a draconian moderating policy where they only allow proscribed views and dissidents who are so over-the-top they strawman themselves, and it still wouldn’t be a free speech issue.

                  This is a disingenuous framing of the concept that justifies censorship as long as it’s not the government doing it.

    3. You’re a fucking retard!

    4. “Dead last? You Trumptards should be asahmed.”

      Hey, turd!
      1) DeVos
      2) Gorsuch
      3) Kavanuagh
      4) Ajit Pai, end net price fixing
      5) Major reduction in the growth of regulations
      6) Dow +30%
      7) Unemployment at 3.8%
      8) The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high
      9) Got repeal of the national medical insurance mandate.
      10) Withdrawal from Paris climate agreement.
      11) Not sure about the tax reform; any “reform” that leaves me subisdizing Musk’s customers is not what I hoped for. Let Musk run a company for once.
      12) In the waning days of 2017, the Trump administration pulled its support for the $13 billion Hudson Tunnel project.
      13) More than 16,000 jobs have been cut from the federal leviathan
      14) MIGHT have a deal to de-nuke NK.
      And finally:
      15) Still making lefties steppin and fetchin like their pants is on fire and their asses are catchin’

      Get lost. Again.
      In fact, make the world a smarter place: Die.

      1. DeVos what? Gorsuch what? Do you even know what you’re copy/pasting about?

        All of those things are terrible except the ones that Trump had nothing to do with.

        1. Potato/potahto

          Love all those except Kavanaugh. I’m hoping to be wrong but he’s part of the machine, no doubt in my mind.

        2. Poor Tony hates that SEVO is correct about how great Trump is.

          Maybe someday Tony will post that one accomplishment of Obama and Bill Clinton.

      2. “13) More than 16,000 jobs have been cut from the federal leviathan”

        Sevo is this really true? Where did you get this I’d love to be able to cite it.

        1. Trump Has Cut Federal Payroll by 24,000 Jobs

          In December 2016, the month before Trump took office, there were 2,810,000 civilians employed in the federal government. That has now dropped by 24,000 to the current 2,786,000.

          1. I seem to recall Federal employees were going to quit than work for Trump. I’m surprised it’s not higher
            #Liberalsarealltalk

          2. I seem to recall Federal employees were going to quit than work for Trump. I’m surprised it’s not higher
            #Liberalsarealltalk

  30. “Bernie Sanders Articulates His Libertarian Foreign Policy”

    You gotta be FUCKING kidding me!!!!!!

    1. I got dyslexic for a second and I thought it was Palin’s Buttplug posting.

  31. “The secret lives of Facebook moderators” are pretty miserable, and make a strong argument that there are some jobs that no human being should have to do. Luckily, there’s such a thing as automation.

    Except that it doesn’t work that great. Either too many false positives or too many false negatives. That’s why Facebook is shelling out so much for humans.

    1. If a company as large as Facebook that has so much riding on the need to moderate content properly can’t get AI to work, we are very long ways from AI being particularly useful in most areas. Certainly longer away than AI’s proponents claim.

      1. Sounds like you have unrealistic expectations built up by reading too much pop-science journalism, and not enough actual science journalism.

        Among the actual science journalism, we get excited when a robot can correctly identify a sheep.

        1. I have very realistic expectations. And the pop science people drive me crazy. That was my point. Sorry that wasn’t clear.

    2. “Luckily, there is such a thing as automation…” for policing red light violations?

      Soave,think about what you wrote there really hard and how much automation policing stuff makes things “better” in other situations.

      1. To be fair, that’s not a problem with the technology, that’s a problem with bad actors configuring them in dishonest ways.

        1. Your point is?

  32. “Speaking of Venezula, Maduro’s government briefly detained several Univision journalists.”

    Darn US sanctions!

    1. I meant to mention that, so thanks for bringing it up.

      No media outrage and demands for the USA to do something after Maduro has journalists kidnapped in Venezuela?

      1. They are still trying to figure out how to make Trump look bad in the reporting.

  33. COTDAMMIT ROBBY

    The fcvking Socialist that loved the Soviet Union now is a ” (Foreign Policy) Libertarian “. Because Reason reasons.

    Just when I thought I was back in on Robby, he pushes me back out

  34. Nothing on the born alive bill? This is claims to have libertarian principles but it oddly ignores when democrats kill bills to justify killing babies.

    Enjoy your abortions feminazis

  35. In times of crisis, its good to know that the government can help rescue us and keep us safe from the elements.

    Yes. Of course I am just kidding. In times of crisis, its good to know that we can count on the local strip club to rescue us and keep us safe from the elements. Same as it ever was.

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