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Brett Kavanaugh Joins With Liberal Justices; SCOTUS Won't Hear Planned Parenthood Defunding Cases

"If Kavanaugh was going to deal a major blow to health care rights during his first session on the court, this would have been the case to do it."

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Newly confirmed Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh sided with the Court's liberal wing in declining to hear cases regarding two states' efforts to defund Planned Parenthood.

Both Louisiana and Kansas have been trying to block Medicaid funding from going to the group. Their most recent efforts came after the 2015 release of a series of videos that anti-abortion activists say show Planned Parenthood officials discussing the sale of fetal tissue for profit. Several lower courts have ruled in favor of Planned Parenthood, but the states filed a writ of certiorari with the Supreme Court.

In order for the Court to grant this petition, four justices would have needed to agree to a hearing. Only three did: Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, and Neil Gorsuch. The rest denied the petition, with Kavanaugh and Chief Justice John Roberts joining liberal Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor, and Stephen Breyer.

As USA Today notes, the Court's decision is a "setback" for conservatives hoping to defund Planned Parenthood, which is the largest abortion provider in the nation. Still, as National Review's Alexandra DeSanctis notes, the Court's decision had little to do with abortion funding itself:

The Supreme Court didn't side with Planned Parenthood, nor did it preserve the abortion provider's funding. It declined to hear the case at all, and the decision not to grant cert took no position on the merits of the case. Claiming that the decision in some way affirmed abortion funding is patently false.

Thomas claims that his colleagues were wary of inserting themselves into such a contentious issue. He wrote in his dissent:

So what explains the Court's refusal to do its job here? I suspect it has something to do with the fact that some respondents in these cases are named "Planned Parenthood." That makes the Court's decision particularly troubling, as the question presented has nothing to do with abortion….But these cases are not about abortion rights. They are about private rights of action under the Medicaid Act. Resolving the question presented here would not even affect Planned Parenthood's ability to challenge the States' decisions; it concerns only the rights of individual Medicaid patients to bring their own suits.

Anti-abortion activists heavily favored Kavanaugh's confirmation. "If Kavanaugh was going to deal a major blow to health care rights during his first session on the court, this would have been the case to do it," Tim Jost, an emeritus professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law, tells Politico.

Of course, Supreme Court justices don't always vote the way people expected them to. Former Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy, for instance, were both chosen by the conservative President Ronald Reagan. But both voted with their liberal colleagues on some key issues. And David Souter was nominated by George H.W. Bush, but he ended up taking mainly liberal stances.

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362 responses to “Brett Kavanaugh Joins With Liberal Justices; SCOTUS Won't Hear Planned Parenthood Defunding Cases

  1. Ferguson adds to The New York Times that instead of de-escalating the situation, police “made it way worse.”

    This is why Republican nominees must always be opposed. At all costs.

    1. Clipboard fail: Should have read: And David Souter was nominated by George H.W. Bush, but he ended up taking mainly liberal stances.

      1. So, because Republicans have not been so good at appointing reliably conservative justices, we should just cede control of the supreme court to the Democrats who have done a better job of appointing reliably liberal judges?

        1. YES! IT’S THE ONLY WAY TO BE SURE!

          1. You can be treated for severe hysteria.
            (But not for ignorance)
            Even in your gulag

  2. There sure is egg on a lot of faces today. No harm, no foul, though.

    1. No harm, no foul, though.

      Unless the eggs are in raw cookie dough.

    2. An egg broken on someone’s face will certainly result in no fowl.

      1. Pun of the week.

      2. Thread winner.

    3. DON’T YOU SEE. IT’S THE HANDMAIDS TALE ALL OVER AGAIN… wait, what?

  3. Resolving the question presented here would not even affect Planned Parenthood’s ability to challenge the States’ decisions; it concerns only the rights of individual Medicaid patients to bring their own suits.

    I’m no lawyer (or doctor) but it’s my understanding that judges (try to) rule on the narrowest of grounds possible.

    1. They’re all lawyers making sure their fellow lawyers can get fat and happy suing on the same stuff over and over.

    2. The law says NO Medicaid provider can be defunded.
      To block the Christian Taliban.

      1. Why should I be forced to fund PP with my hard earned money?

        1. You’ve just stated, publicly, that you are witlessly brainwashed.

          You aren’t forced to do any such thing. Typically, that means one has been exploited for your faith, and manipulated by a political elite,

          Anything else?

          1. The government funds Planned Parenthood. Where do you think the government gets its funds? Idiot.

            1. The government funds Planned Parenthood.

              THAT was ridiculed here.

              And here!

              And repeated EVERY time you repeated your same authoritarian THUGGISHNESS, slaver.

              1. You’re not very good at ridicule. My statement therefore stands. The government funds PP via Medicaid.

                1. You’re not very good at ridicule.

                  (sneer)

                  AGAIN! Vince Smith manipulated into demanding MOAR ABORTIONS
                  And PROMOTING PROGRESSIVES LIKE BERNIE AND ELIZABETH.

                  PAY ATTENTION, BABY KILLER
                  Title X Family Planning was passed under Nixon, for low-income Americans — to reduce MASSIVE abortions among the poor.

                  Low-income abortions have been cut by more than 50%
                  The program also provides testing for STDs and HIV.
                  Every dollar spent on Title X saves $6-7 (estimates vary) in Medicaid treatment, including childbirth.

                  End Medicaid.

                  Vince ALSO bamboozled into OPPOSING FREE MARKET OUTCOMES

                  ONE MORE TIME: Pre-Medicare/Medicaid, Americans always paid health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income, provided by thousands of “charity hospitals,” financed by churches, charities, and more.

                  THAT is a free market OUTCOME

                  PRO-LIBERTY libertarians are the ONLY ones seeking a transition back to free market OUTCOMES.
                  ANTI-GUMMINT GOOBERS ARE A MAJOR THREAT TO MY LIBERTY, free markets and humanity.

                  If Bernie and Elizabeth are the ONLY ones claiming to provide what PEOPLE WANT TO PAY FOR … None of your BELLOWING can save us.

                  As Christ weeps in silent shame.

                  1. When did I say I’m against charity hospitals?

                    1. When did I say I’m against charity hospitals?

                      (snort)
                      23 times, when you REJECT restoring them as the PRIVATE funded provider to the uninsured, regardless for income ot age … because you are TOTALLY opposed to free market OUTCOMES … and an anti-gummint slaver … who is PROVEN IGNORANT of both markets and liberty …. and from that ignorance you (witlessly) promote a TOTAL government takeover of health care. … as PROVEN IMMEDIATELY BELOW
                      John Galt Jr|12.12.18 @ 8:36PM

                      KEEP SHOWING EVERYONE HOW WACKY AND DISHONEST YOU AUTHORITARIAN-RIGHT SLAVERS ARE!

                      As PROVEN here.

                      And here!

                      And repeated EVERY time you repeated your same authoritarian THUGGISHNESS, slaver.

                      STILL stalking me, thug?

                    2. I’m for them being PRIVATELY funded. That means ending PUBLIC funding.

                2. You’re not very good at ridicule

                  Anti-gummint goober OPPOSES free-market outcomes.
                  TOTALLY ignorant of PRO-LIBERTY solutions.
                  FUCK THE POOR — BUT DEFEND THE ELDERLY (who vote)

                  In a free market — before Medicaid and Medicare — Americans willingly and freely financed health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income. Thousands of private “charity hospitals” were financed by a wide variety of churches, charities, fraternal and ethnic lodges. Much as Kiwanis/Eagles/Rotary still excel in private charity.

                  Healthcare for the less privileged traces to the 1500s, slaver.

                  ONLY pro-liberty libertarians seek a return to … INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, slaver.
                  Several different proposals all included a transition from government to private funding … because the private charity infrastructure must be rebuilt .. and the funds must transfer at the same pace as the restructuring.
                  The easiest to explain and do is a tax CREDIT for donations to private charity health care.

                  WAY too complex for you slavers. BELLOWING “Git gummint out” is all you can grasp.

                  *** Now, THINK, slaver. If Americans have always been willing to pay for universal treatment … and ONLY progressives are claiming to provide it …. WHO WINS? … Which is WHY anti-gummint = authoritarian slavers.

                  P.S. We’d also replace the ENTIRE safety net with tax credits. (smirk)
                  For over two centuries, we’ve called it “consent of the governed,” slaver.

                  Anything else?

                  1. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  4. What do “health care rights” have to do with PP getting Federal money?

    (PP pinky-swears that not a cent of FedBucks goes to abortions, so it can’t be that, right?

    There a new right to subsidized/free pap smears or mammograms?

    I mean, they’re fine things, but WTF is Reason of all places doing suggesting such things are a “right”?

    Or, well, what exactly is the thing that’s being euphemized as “health care rights”?)

    1. (Same thing WRT state money, for that matter.

      It might be bad to not fund PP. It might be a 1st Amendment issue to defund PP because of its positions, potentially.

      But there’s no “health care right” I can see involved here.

      Thomas speaks of a right to sue the states under the Medicare act.

      That’s not how the phrase “health care right” is normally used.)

    2. What do “health care rights” have to do with PP getting Federal money?

      Access.

      Removing funding reduces access to a service that is seen as an inalienable human right.

      The funding need not directly fund an abortion, but the funding goes to the organization that aids in women getting access to healthcare services related to abortion.

      1. “Federal funding doesn’t go towards abortions” is such a bullshit argument in the first place, though. Because money is fungible.

        The separation of funds in a non-profit organization is just as effective as the separation of smoking and non-smoking sections of restaurants. Hold on, I want to make a peeing section of the pool, too — don’t worry, you don’t have to swim in THAT section.

        1. Agreed, I was merely answering the question as I understand it would be answered by PP.

          1. They’re not as STUPID as you.

            This case dealt wit MEDICAID, and NO Medicaid provider can be defunded.

        2. “Federal funding doesn’t go towards abortions” is such a bullshit argument in the first place, though. Because money is fungible.

          LOL! How can a MASSIVE money loser (Medicaid) subsidizeanything?

          Are YOU the bullshitter, or just totally ignorant of elementary accounting?

          1. End Medicaid.

            1. Anti-gummint slaver OPPOSES free-market outcomes.
              Is TOTALLY ignorant of PRO-LIBERTY solutions.
              FUCKS THE POOR — BUT DEFENDS THE ELDERLY (who vote)

              Pay attention. I’ll go as slowly as possible,

              In a free market — before Medicaid and Medicare — Americans willingly and freely financed health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income. Thousands of private “charity hospitals” were financed by a wide variety of churches, charities, fraternal and ethnic lodges. Much as Kiwanis/Eagles/Rotary still excel in private charity.

              Healthcare for the less privileged traces to the 1500s, slaver.

              ONLY pro-liberty libertarians seek a return to … INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, slaver.
              Several different proposals all included a transition from government to private funding … because the private charity infrastructure must be rebuilt .. and the funds must transfer at the same pace as the restructuring.
              The easiest to explain and do is a tax CREDIT for donations to private charity health care.

              WAY too complex for you slavers. “Git gummint out” is all you can grasp.

              Now, THINK, slaver. If Americans have always been willing to pay for universal treatment … and ONLY progressives are claiming to provide it …. WHO WINS? … Which is WHY anti-gummint = authoritarian slavers.

              P.S. We’d also replace the ENTIRE safety net with tax credits. (smirk)
              For over two centuries, we’ve called it “consent of the governed,” slaver.

              Anything else?

              1. So you’re against Medicaid yet attack me for being against Medicaid?

                1. My tone and boldface in defense of repeated verbal assaults and agggression … by a STALKER and a CYBER-BULLY

                  So you’re against Medicaid yet attack me for being against Medicaid?

                  ALSO A PSYCHO LIAR!

                  YOU say END Medicaid.

                  I say RESTORE FREE MARKET OUTCOMES — which REQUIRES a phased TRANSITION

                  NOW you ADMIT not knowing the difference!!!

                  You AUTHORITARIAN slavers are a THREAT to INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY and FREE MARKETS

                  (and too COWARDLY to defend your authoritarian THUGGERY)

                  1. It doesn’t need to be phased, and PP will do just fine without government money.

            2. Are YOU the bullshitter, or just totally ignorant of elementary accounting?

              End Medicaid.

              So … both. Thanks.

        3. Separation of smoking and non-smoking sections of restaurants results in a half empty restaurant and a long line out front..

      2. This is not an issue about health rights or abortions…It is about a private company that has been subsidized by the Govt. for decades breaking the law & then Govt. deciding they do not want to subsidize lawlessness!

        1. Note to foreign readers: “Government” in this context means looter politicians who have done something to please superstitious force-initiating constituents.

          1. Liberals are initiating force by forcing me to pay PP.

            BTW, pro choice men are cucks.

            1. You’re bat-shit crazy, just another brainwashed slaver.

              1. Ad hominem.

                Refute the two statements I made.

                P. S. It’s obvious you and Galt are the same guy.

                1. Refute the two statements I made.

                  HOW MANY TIMES?

                  Anti-gummint slaver – OPPOSES free-market outcomes.
                  TOTALLY ignorant of PRO-LIBERTY solutions.
                  FUCK THE POOR — BUT DEFEND THE ELDERLY (who vote)

                  In a free market — before Medicaid and Medicare — Americans willingly and freely financed health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income. Thousands of private “charity hospitals” were financed by a wide variety of churches, charities, fraternal and ethnic lodges. Much as Kiwanis/Eagles/Rotary still excel in private charity.

                  Healthcare for the less privileged traces to the 1500s, slaver.

                  ONLY pro-liberty libertarians seek a return to … INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, slaver.
                  Several different proposals all included a transition from government to private funding … because the private charity infrastructure must be rebuilt .. and the funds must transfer at the same pace as the restructuring.
                  The easiest to explain and do is a tax CREDIT for donations to private charity health care.

                  WAY too complex for you slavers. BELLOWING “Git gummint out” is all you can grasp.

                  *** Now, THINK, slaver. If Americans have always been willing to pay for universal treatment … and ONLY progressives are claiming to provide it …. WHO WINS? … Which is WHY anti-gummint = authoritarian slavers.

                  We’d also replace the ENTIRE safety net with tax credits.
                  For over two centuries, we’ve called it “consent of the governed,” slaver.

                  Anything else?

                2. Refute the two statements I made.

                  HOW MANY TIMES?

                  PAY ATTENTION, BABY KILLER … WHY DO YOU WANT MOAR ABORTIONS???
                  Title X Family Planning was passed under Nixon, for low-income Americans — to reduce MASSIVE abortions among the poor.

                  Low-income abortions have been cut by more than 50%
                  The program also provides testing for STDs and HIV.
                  Every dollar spent on Title X saves $6-7 (estimates vary) in Medicaid treatment, including childbirth.

                  End Medicaid.

                  Vince ALSO bamboozled into OPPOSING FREE MARKET OUTCOMES

                  ONE MORE TIME: Pre-Medicare/Medicaid, Americans always paid health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income, provided by thousands of “charity hospitals,” financed by churches, charities, and more.

                  THAT is a free market OUTCOME

                  PRO-LIBERTY libertarians are the ONLY ones seeking a transition back to free market OUTCOMES.

                  THINK! (lol) If Bernie and Elizabeth are the ONLY ones claiming to provide what PEOPLE WANT TO PAY FOR … None of your BELLOWING can save us.

                  ANTI-GUMMINT GOOBERS ARE A MAJOR THREAT TO MY LIBERTY, free markets and humanity.

                  As Christ weeps in silent shame.

                  1. To have fewer abortions, simply ban it.

                  2. You didn’t attempt to refute my statement that pro choice men are feminist cuck girly men.

      3. “access to a service”

        The usual double talk.
        Has anyone ever described a functional difference between “access to a service” and “a service”?

        “Access” is a term thrown in to pretend it not about exactly what it is about – getting another gimme from the government.

          1. The Loon is flirting with me again.

            1. Goober feels FLATTERED by being called out as a liar!
              (Trumpsters be kinda stoopid)

    3. There is also the suggestion that a particular NGO has a right to be supported from the public fisc despite what the elected officials of a supposedly sovereign state think about it.

      1. And of course there’s that. There’s having a right to exist, and then an organization existing in a space where it must exist.

    4. Reason didn’t suggest it. Reason quoted someone who suggested it. Grow up.

      1. “Leave Reason alone!” Cathy L cried…

        1. To be fair, she’s not wrong in this instance:

          “If Kavanaugh was going to deal a major blow to health care rights during his first session on the court, this would have been the case to do it,” Tim Jost, an emeritus professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law, tells Politico.

          You want to get your [t]reason magazine hate on, fine, but criticizing them for something someone else said is weak sauce.

    5. Planned parenthood doesn’t even do mammograms or pap smears. They get paid by Medicaid to hand referrals to other clinics when referrals aren’t even needed.

      1. BULLSHIT DIVERSION … CRAZY AS HELL … LIKE HERE

  5. “health care rights”

    You keep using that term, I do not think it means what you think it means.

    1. Only compete morons call the killing of a baby, “health care”.

      1. How DARE you sneer at a core founding principle of EQUAL … UNALIENABLE … GOD-GIVEN …. RIGHTS

        1. Yes, how dare anyone do or say anything that doesn’t meet with the approval of a tyrannical, raving lunatic.

            1. Fuck off Hihn.

              1. (Posted in defense of aggression by a thug in the Authoritarian Right.)

                Whiney snowflake(Fancylad) is AGAIN triggered by proof. Screeches ANOTHER infantile insult. His ilk has assaulted liberty form centuries: book burning, speech codes, dress coders, TV and Movie censorship, McCarthyism, the (un)Holy Inquisition, Trumpism …

            2. There is no right to healthcare, moron.

              1. There is no right to healthcare

                Nobody said there was!

                moron.

                (sneer)
                If you’d clicked the link, you wouldn’t have publicly humiliated yourself .. and MAY have grasped what the actual point is, slaver

              2. There is no right to healthcare

                Nobody said there was!

                moron.

                (sneer)
                If you’d clicked the link, you wouldn’t have publicly humiliated yourself .. and MAY have grasped what the actual point is, slaver

                1. Then what is this “God given” right you speak of?

                  1. There is no right to healthcare

                    Nobody said there was!

                    moron.

                    (sneer)
                    If you’d clicked the link, you wouldn’t have publicly humiliated yourself .. and MAY have grasped what the actual point is, slaver

                    Then what is this “God given” right you speak of?

                    (sneer)
                    If you’d clicked the link, you wouldn’t have publicly humiliated yourself .. ((NOW TWICE)) and MAY have grasped what the actual point is, slaver

                    NO, the universe does NOT disappear if you close your eyes and REFUSE to see ABSOLUTE PROOF

                    (Boldface and RIDICULE in defense of multiple assaults and aggressions … by a PROVEN stalker/bully … and a COWARD who refuses truth)

                    1. Stalker? No. This is a public forum, and I have the right to reply to any comment here as long as this website allows me to do so. Bully? No. Every comment you make is obnoxious, so the rest of us have every right to return fire.

      2. Well, there’s Vietnamese babies. What did draft-exempt Quaker Richard Nixon call killing them?

    2. Health care cannot be a right. A person has to provide that care. One person’s right cannot force an action on another.

      1. So … you say there are no property rights?

        1. And no right to Life?

          1. There is no right to coerce someone else to save your life, no. That would be slavery.

            1. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

        2. Who said there are no property rights?

          1. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

            1. Thanks for agreeing with me.

              1. (response to a stalker/bully/goober)

                Thanks for agreeing with me.

                (smirk)
                WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
                WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
                WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

                Roughly equivalent to your authoritarian bullshit on Medicaid, slaver.

                And since you NEED me to repeat even the SIMPLEST of logic …..

                1. It’s authoritarian to advocate that the government quit forcibly redistributing my hard earned money to bums who can’t afford healthcare? Lol. No, that would be libertarian.

                  1. HOW psycho can a slaver be??

                    And since you NEED me to repeat even the SIMPLEST of logic …..

                    It’s authoritarian to advocate that the government quit forcibly redistributing my hard earned money to bums who can’t afford healthcare?

                    One more time for the pathetic sack-of-shit liar. (NINTH TIME)

                    ONE MORE TIME: Pre-Medicare/Medicaid, Americans always paid health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income, provided by thousands of “charity hospitals,” financed by churches, charities, and more.

                    THAT is a free market OUTCOME

                    PRO-LIBERTY libertarians are the ONLY ones seeking a transition back to free market OUTCOMES.
                    ANTI-GUMMINT GOOBERS ARE A MAJOR THREAT TO MY LIBERTY, free markets and humanity.

                    THINK: If Bernie and Elizabeth are the ONLY ones claiming to provide what PEOPLE WANT TO PAY FOR … None of your BELLOWING can save us.

                    1. Charity hospitals are funded VOLUNTARILY, not by government coercion.

                      IDIOT.

  6. But I was assured that Bert Kavanaugh would literally tear down every PP location with his bare hands on Day One…

    1. That’s Robert Dear, coming up for a Presidential Pardon that will make him eligible for a job with the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives organized by George Waffen Bush before the asset-forfeiture Crash.

    2. Your fault for not knowing widely reported news, MotorSteve

  7. I’ll note that the justices who don’t vote the way you expect don’t seem to come from Dem Presidents…

    1. In a sense, Bannon should have been appointed at the SCOTUS.

  8. But I was promised that Kavanaugh, embittered by his confirmation battle, would carry a grudge and use it to turn into a warrior of right-wing vengeance!

    1. Yeah, you buy in to lots of stupid shit.

    2. So both sides were totally full of shit on Kavanaugh. I’m shocked, shocked…?..

      1. We didn’t need to look much further than the PATRIOT Act to figure out that The Kavenator wasn’t all he was being sold as. By either side.

  9. Coercive licensing of medical practice creates a blackmailable herd. Thus the Harrison Tax Act became a prohibition law. These mystical conservatives who seek to have guns pointed at doctors and pregnant women are the mentality that would defund the CDC and leave us at the mercy of biological terrorists with an equally religious agenda. Wizened Christian crones blocked medical inspection of working girls and banned sale of prophylactics near army bases in 1918. The result–bravely published in the Ladies’ Home Journal–was syphillis and gonorrhea in epidemic proportions throughout the 1920s and 1930s. Gorsuch has shown himself way more rational than his collectivist critics or superstitious supporters.

  10. Woops… Kavanaugh… hard to tell looters apart at times.

  11. I rejoiced when I heard the SCOTUS will not hear the Planned Parenthood case.
    Now even more of our excess capital can go to private companies who are politically connected.
    Now we can all sleep better at night knowing that cronyism capitalism is alive and well.

    1. Better that than crony Christianofascism.

      1. “Chrstianofascism”

        You and Hihn should get a blog.

        1. Are you trying to get us all killed DesigNate?
          The demagoguery and petty hatred contained in that blog would achieve supermassive density, forming an internet black hole from which no reason or logic could ever escape.

          1. Pay attention, brainwashed Fancylad/Hater

            You’ve no doubt heard that the words “Wall of Separation between church and state” do not appear in the Constitution. WHY WOULD THEY HAVE TO?

            The words were Jefferson’s,. when asked what the founders intended. Danbury (CT) Baptists asked, because they feared the type of persecution and discrimination that Christians denominations had long suffered … from each other. SOME Christian leaders dismiss Jefferson ,… ON NO AUTHORITY BUT THEIR OWN. Some exploit the faith of their followers, equating faith in THEM with faith in GOD. But they literally have NO credible source on what the Founders intended. None at all. Zilch.

            I have the first three Presidents — and the UNANIMOUS US Senate in the 9th year of our founding (still prox half Founders). Treaties are the Law of the Land, equal to the Constitution. The Treaty of Tripoli was negotiated in Washington’s final year, signed by Adams, after UNANIMOUS ratification by the Senate. THOSE words are unmistakable.

            “The United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

            Cont’d

            1. Part 2 of 2

              Now the wacky bullshit!

              The funniest lie is that those words are a bad translation. To swallow THAT crap, one must believe that the Treaty was both negotiated and ratified ? IN ARABIC! (lol)

              “But the Founders were Christians.” Yes but you know that many came here to escape religious persecution in Europe. We’d suffered the Salem Witchcraft Trials here. And the biggie.

              The “Holy” Inquisition was still committing moral atrocities in Europe ? church and state united. Check it out. The State performed punishments decreed by the Church. It had many years to go, until roughly our Civil War.

              Today, church/state is invoked as “justification” to abuse individual liberties, originally by bigots. Consider marriage equality. Yes, the Holy Bible looks harsh on gays. But it also commands immediate death to all infidels (the Quran does not), even to killing your own brother, spouse, child or friend. (Deut 13) You must also stone to death all women who were not virgins when they married. Men okay, of course! (Deut 22)

              Any questions?

            2. Nobody here is arguing that we are a Christian nation, you idiot.

              1. How many times can you make a fool of yourself .. in a single day … on a single page,

                  1. ELEVEN TIMES, LOSER

                    Including all the repeats that you REFUSE to rebut.

                    The government funds Planned Parenthood.

                    THAT was ridiculed here.

                    And here!

                    And repeated EVERY time you repeated your same authoritarian THUGGISHNESS, slaver.

                    1. The government funds Planned Parenthood. Medicaid is the government. Duh.

                    2. The government funds Planned Parenthood. Medicaid is the government. Duh.

                      SLAVER wants government to fund ALL healthcare !

                      12TH REPEAT FOR THE STALKING SLAVER

                      End Medicaid.

                      Vince OPPOSING FREE MARKET OUTCOMES (sneer)

                      ONE MORE TIME for ignorant slavers: Pre-Medicare/Medicaid, Americans always paid health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income, provided by thousands of “charity hospitals,” financed by churches, charities, and more.

                      THAT is a free market OUTCOME

                      ***PRO-LIBERTY libertarians are the ONLY ones seeking a transition back to free market OUTCOMES.
                      Several different proposals all included a transition from government to private funding … because the private charity infrastructure must be rebuilt .. and the funds must transfer at the same pace as the restructuring.
                      The easiest to explain and do is a tax CREDIT for donations to private charity health care.

                      WAY too complex for right-wing BELLOWING slavers.

                      THINK! (lol) If Bernie and Elizabeth are the ONLY ones claiming to provide what PEOPLE WANT TO PAY FOR … None of your BELLOWING can save us.

                      ANTI-GUMMINT GOOBERS ARE A MAJOR THREAT TO LIBERTY and free markets

                      Left – Right = Zero
                      Libertarians have been NEITHER for 50 years … 50 years of defending liberty from psychos, liars and slavers.

                    3. “Slaver wants government to fund all healthcare!” Uh, that doesn’t make any sense. I said to end Medicaid because I don’t want the government to fund healthcare at all. Fall on your head one too many times?

                    4. (boldface for even CRAZIER aggression … by my crazed stalker)

                      YOUR MASSIVE FUCKUP IS DETAILED IN …. WHAT YOU “RESPONDED TO”

                      ONE MORE TIME for ignorant slavers: Pre-Medicare/Medicaid, Americans always paid health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income, provided by thousands of “charity hospitals,” financed by churches, charities, and more.

                      THAT is a free market OUTCOME

                      ***PRO-LIBERTY libertarians are the ONLY ones seeking a transition back to free market OUTCOMES. Several different proposals all included a transition from government to private funding … because the private charity infrastructure must be rebuilt .. and the funds must transfer at the same pace as the restructuring. The easiest to explain and do is a tax CREDIT for donations to private charity health care.

                      ****WAY too complex for right-wing BELLOWING slavers.

                      ****THINK! (lol) If Bernie and Elizabeth are the ONLY ones claiming to provide what PEOPLE WANT TO PAY FOR … None of your BELLOWING can save us.

                      ANTI-GUMMINT GOOBERS ARE A MAJOR THREAT TO LIBERTY and free market

                      The VERY worst are also self-righteous pricks. (smirk)

                    5. How am I not advocating free market outcomes? Earth to moron: I’m all for charity hospitals.

          2. from which no reason or logic could ever escape

            You’re assuming there would be any there to begin with.

        2. It’s called Separation, goobers.
          This is WHY we all laugh at you people.

          1. goobers
            Fuck off Hihn

            1. Precious snowflake is triggered again.
              And it IS called Separation, brainwashed goober.

            2. Fancylad|12.11.18 @ 5:44PM|#
              Fuck off Hihn

              You’ve already been publicly humiliated on this, hateful one. Here.

              Anything else?

        3. You and Hihn should get a blog.

          They could dedicate if to the First Amendment, and ridicule the New Inquisitioners (but not often enough to scare away thinking readers)

      2. Auschwitz never lacked funding.

        1. Relevance???

          1. PP kills, just as the Nazis did.

            1. PP kills, just as the Nazis did.

              THAT bullshit is exposed … where you REFUSE to look, pussy.

              1. What bullshit?

    2. Now even more of our excess capital can go to private companies

      I’m sure he blundered again. It is Uncle jay, But there are too many possibilities for this one.

  12. It seems that Roberts didn’t want to have to come up with another excuse like “Penaltax” and Kavanaugh got sick of being compared to Hitler. I guess punting was the best option in their minds?

    1. Cucks gonna cuck.

  13. This is actually one of the funny things about the Kavanaugh hysteria. He was always a moderate/squishy Republican type, but got made into a hardcore conservative like Scalia or Thomas by the left, and the right believed it, even though they should have known better.

    1. Most effective political marketing campaign in recent memory. Perhaps.

      1. Hey, Goobers. he SAID Roe v Wade was settled law!!
        it was major news everywhere EXCEPT Fox, Breitbart, Infowars, WND and Stormfront Pravda.

        1. Did you mean to post that in a different thread?

          1. No. I was highly motivated to humiliate you.
            Again.

            Are you SERIOUSLY ignorant that Kavanaugh SAID Roe v Wade is settled law, BEFORE being confirmed?
            It was major news everywhere EXCEPT perhaps Fox, Breitbart, Infowars, WND and Stormfront Pravda.

            1. He had to say it to get the two RINO hags to vote for him.

              1. NOW our resident slaver — Vince Smith — BRAGS that Kavanaugh SOLD HIS VERY SOUL to be placed on the Supreme Court.

                “Birds of a feather flock together.”

                (Why am I feeling cruel, like from kicking a cripple? Who is WAY above his class here))

                1. I see nothing wrong with lying in that situation.

                  1. I see nothing wrong with lying in that situation.

                    Few slavers would. But we libertarians have long warned about the total lack of moral standards by you, Kavanaugh, your Authoritarian Right … and the Authoritarian Left.

                    But it’s still scary that you are so PROUD to lack any conscience — as you’ve confirmed all down this page.

  14. Boy, those women running around in the red Hand Maid costumes must be really confused today.

    1. The cognitive dissonance must be making their heads feel like they’re about to explode.

  15. “can we have the abortion thing not be the first fucking thing I do around here please and thank you?”

    1. Well, yeah. Obviously.

      The fucking thing has to happen first, then you can have an abortion.

    2. At this point why wouldn’t he wait for Trump to appoint Amy before tackling these cases?

  16. Wait, wait, wait… this is unpossible! I was told under no uncertain circumstances that Kavanaugh’s appointment to the SCOTUS would be the end of legal abortion and the beginning of some kind of Handmaid’s Tale in real life hellscape. What gives?

    1. I applaud and share your ridicule of the uninformed and brainwashed goobers.
      WIDELY reported that Kavanaugh said that Roe v Wade is settled law. But they have their noses jammed up Judge Janine’s butt.

  17. I firmly believed, during his confirmation hearing, that the Left was working themselves into an unwarranted tizzy. In 10 years we will firmly view K. as more aligned with the Left than with the Right. In his core, he is a big government statist. This decision only reinforces my belief.

    1. In his core, he is a big government statist.

      This. Of course, they’re pretty much all big government statists.

      1. I think that’s sort of a requirement to get onto the court in most cases. Sometimes someone that thinks originalists might not be entirely nuts gets put on the court, and everyone lets it slide as long as there aren’t more than three of them.

        1. “Originalists” are FASCISTS, per Thomas Jefferson.

          1. Huh??

            Fascism was invented by Mussolini in 1920. TJ could not have opined on it.

            1. Umm, you seem to have confused the word with the form of government.
              A common error on the Authoritarian Right, because Hitler on the right.

              1. Hitler was a SOCIALIST.

                1. Umm, his rule had private property. And property is related to your contempt for free markets, which you professed over a dozen times here … and now deny your obvious ignorance.
                  Quite common on the Authoritarian Right ,.. though a different flavor among your kinship with the authoritarian left.

                  No offense. but I’d stay away from libertarians. We had you people scoped 50 years ago.
                  And a majority of Americans now agree.

                  You and the left are headed to where the dodo birds are now Extinction.

                  P.S. Fascism can be either on the left (Mussolini) or the right (Hitler)
                  Once there is an oppressive regulatory state, with private property, it tends to use that force to favor unions (Mussolini) or corporatism (Hitler), which you’ll learn in high school.

                  America is a milder form, with Democrats exercising power on behalf of unions. Republicans a coalition of corporatism and theocracy, both of which are are power-abusive (by definition)

                  1. There can be some private property in a socialist nation. Even Venezuela has some.

                  2. Hitlery was a STATIST.

                  3. Hitlery (Clinton) is a statist, and so was Hitler.

      2. It is the smart bet.

  18. And ? federal law says NO Medicaid provider can be defunded.

    And no informed person believes federal funds pay for abortion. Yes, funds are fungible, but a HUGE money-loser cannot subsidize ANYTHING! (duh) PP is the SOLE Medicaid provider for millions of inner-city women. Medicaid pays as little as $17 per visit, so many inner-cities have no other physicians at all (not enough privately insured to overcharge.) If you know accounting, PP can accept Medicaid BECAUSE abortions pay their overhead. All they need to recover on Medicaid is direct salaries ? no rent, utilities, indirect salaries, etc.

    PP’s is also funded for family-planning — an inner-city program passed almost unanimously under Ford, which has slashed inner-city abortion rates.

    Perhaps Kavanaugh is savvy enough to know that defunding PP would punish a provider for performing a constitutionally protected procedure, not prevent a single abortion, would INCREASE inner-city abortions, and leave millions of inner-city women with no Medicaid provider (but they’re only black)

    The Christian Taliban will SCREAM that I DARE point out the woman’s unalienable right to Liberty is precisely equal to the fetal child’s unalienable right to Liberty … which is what unalienable MEANS! Some DARE to claim they’re constitutional conservatives. Abortion has been conducted, and fully legal, until the 1900s, when surgical abortion replaced herbal abortion. Yes, even in Biblical times.


    1. The Christian Taliban will SCREAM that I DARE point out the woman’s unalienable right to Liberty is precisely equal to the fetal child’s unalienable right to Liberty … which is what unalienable MEANS!

      Hey look, it’s Hihn! Back with your insanely preposterous notion that natural rights can’t be in conflict I see.

      1. The Christian Taliban will SCREAM that I DARE point out the woman’s unalienable right to Liberty is precisely equal to the fetal child’s unalienable right to Liberty … which is what unalienable MEANS!

        your insanely preposterous notion that natural rights can’t be in conflict

        (snort) YOU say the Founders were STUPID? On what authority?

        All unalienable rights are absolute — by definition (smirk) They include
        1) Life
        2) Liberty (a package of unnamed rights)
        3) Pursuit of Happiness (a package of unnamed rights)
        4) ALL rights not spelled out in the Constitution (a package of unnamed rights, that NO level of government may deny or disparage,

        So …
        What rights are included under Liberty?
        What rights are included under Pursuit of Happiness?
        What rights are included by the Ninth Amendment?
        HOW are all these never-named rights determined and applied (since the 1500s)?

        If two rights are in conflict, and both are absolute, how would YOU resolve the conflict?

        Why did you make such a total fool of yourself?

        Hey look, it’s Hihn!

        My name is not Hihn, despite your commitment to wacky conspiracies.
        Just an educated libertarian, ridiculing the Authoritarian Right for a half-century now.

        If you cannot grasp quantum physics, does that mean it’s preposterous?
        If you cannot understand nuclear fission, does it cease to exist?

        1. My name is not Hihn, despite your commitment to wacky conspiracies.

          Your name wasn’t Hihn when you were posting as “Michael Hihn”, either, or Elilis [sic] Wyatt, or Ellis Wyatt, or David Nolan, whatever. You spew a particular brand of obtuse nonsense which is either a calculated and cynical attempt to introduce rancor and disruption to any discussion here, or you have some kind of personality disorder. You foul up threads with long screeds that often swing between making half a point and segueing abruptly into non sequitur, accusations, and paranoia. Whoever you really are, if you genuinely have a point to make, you really are not managing to communicate it effectively to anyone. Of course, from your perspective, we’re all stupid and bad, and that’s why we don’t understand you, but I am telling you that your ability to communicate your ideas effectively is highly compromized by whatever problems you have.

          Alternatively, if you are spamming threads on purpose with confused garbage on purpose to disrupt discussion that you disagree with (which I suspect, given your use of various sock puppets), then I would hope that whomever is in charge of Reason comments admin might be receptive to a suggestion that should there be any evidence to support my theory, that you be blocked.

          1. Fuck off Hihn.

            1. Hey! That’s what I said!

              1. Does garlic still repel Hhin? *waves garlic*

                1. Four TOTAL LOSERS (so far)

                  What rights are included under Liberty?
                  What rights are included under Pursuit of Happiness?
                  What rights are included by the Ninth Amendment?
                  HOW are all these never-named rights determined and applied (since the 1500s)?

                  If two rights are in conflict, and both are absolute, how would YOU resolve the conflict?

                  (sneer)

                    1. Moderators, He’s here. The man formerly know as MIchael Hihn posting as John Galt Jr, and Ellis Wyatt, spewing his typical inarticulate, hate-filled garbage. Banish this man! I implore of you! Seemed to work once…..worth a shot.

                    2. Or, alternatively, give please give us the ability to mute certain annoying curmudgeons.

                    3. Right-wing oppression for centuries. The original snowflakes. Book burning, speech codes. TV and movie censorship, dress codes. McCarthyism. (un)Holy Inquisition, Trumpism ….

                    4. Liberals are the ones banning “hate speech” in other countries, you fool.

                    5. MOAR from wacky Vince!!

                      THIS is why I use boldface … and the slavers STILL cannot grasp the point

                      “Right-wing oppression for centuries.The original snowflakes. Book burning, speech codes. TV and movie censorship, dress codes. McCarthyism. (un)Holy Inquisition, Trumpism ….

                      Liberals are the ones banning “hate speech” in other countries,

                      (smirk)
                      1) Puts “hate speech” in quotes, but never in this thread

                      2) COWARDLY DIVERSION (“other countries”)

                      3) “Book burning, speech codes. TV and movie censorship, dress codes. McCarthyism. (un)Holy Inquisition, Trumpism ….”

                      you fool.

                      (Wyatt pees pants laughing at you)
                      (agan)

                    6. Liberals IN THIS COUNTRY want to overturn Citizens United, Like I said, libtards hate free speech.

                    7. COWARDLY DIVERSION (AGAIN)

                      You LIED abn9ut hate speech THEN … and AGAIN.
                      You lied about this country THEN … and AGAIN,

                      And you AGAIN reveal your compulsion for EXTREME DENIAL (a psychiatric disorder

                      ELLIS PUT IT IN BOLDFACE …. but you STILL REFUSE TO SEE IT.

                      “Book burning, speech codes. TV and movie censorship, dress codes. McCarthyism. (un)Holy Inquisition, Trumpism ….”

                      CAN YOU HEAR *ME*

                      ONE MORE TIME, Sluggo

                      WHO burned books?
                      WHO censored newspapers,
                      WHO censored TV. movies and books
                      WHO imposed dress codes.
                      WHO banned Rock and Roll (Ever see Footloose?
                      smirk)
                      WHO imposed McCarthyism?
                      WHO conducted the (un)Holy Inquisition?
                      SALEM WITCH CRAFT TRIALS?

                      And … WHEN WAS THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING? bwaaaaa haaaa

                      like I said, libtards hate free speech

                      WHILE IGNORING WHAT *HE* SAID … and AGAIN humiliating yourself, slaver.

                      Left – Right = Zero
                      That’s overall. On suppression of opposing views, the fascist right has NO equal.

                      Don’t forget the Canaanites!

                    8. Footloose is a fictional movie, you idiot.

                      I don’t see conservatives burning books or anything of the sort. Who are the speech fascists on college campuses? Liberals!

                    9. Footloose is a fictional movie, you idiot.

                      WHO BANNED ROCK AND ROLL, SLAVER?

                      I don’t see conservatives burning books or anything of the sort.

                      WHO DID IT, SLAVER?

                      Who are the speech fascists on college campuses? Liberals!

                      ONE MORE TIME FOR LIARS AND SLAVERS
                      COWARDLY DIVERSION (AGAIN)

                      You LIED abn9ut hate speech THEN … and AGAIN.
                      You lied about this country THEN … and AGAIN,

                      And you AGAIN reveal your compulsion for EXTREME DENIAL (a psychiatric disorder)

                      ELLIS PUT IT IN BOLDFACE …. but you STILL REFUSE TO SEE IT.

                      “Book burning, speech codes. TV and movie censorship, dress codes. McCarthyism. (un)Holy Inquisition, Trumpism ….”

                      CAN YOU HEAR *ME*

                      ONE MORE TIME, Sluggo

                      WHO burned books?
                      WHO censored newspapers,
                      WHO censored TV. movies and books
                      WHO imposed dress codes.
                      WHO banned Rock and Roll (Ever see Footloose? smirk)
                      WHO imposed McCarthyism?
                      WHO conducted the (un)Holy Inquisition?
                      SALEM WITCH CRAFT TRIALS?

                      And … WHEN WAS THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING? bwaaaaa haaaa

                    10. Cuck says what?

                    11. ONE MORE TIME, Trashmouth

                      WHO burned books?
                      WHO censored newspapers,
                      WHO censored TV. movies and books
                      WHO imposed dress codes.
                      WHO banned Rock and Roll (Ever see Footloose? smirk)
                      WHO imposed McCarthyism?
                      WHO conducted the (un)Holy Inquisition?
                      SALEM WITCH CRAFT TRIALS?

                    12. Inquisitions? What is the relevance of stuff from centuries ago?

                    13. Inquisitions? What is the relevance of stuff from centuries ago?

                      WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

                      CENTURIES BEFORE THE COLLEGE STUDENTS YOU SLAVERS WHINE ABOUT

                      WHO censored newspapers,
                      WHO censored TV. movies and books
                      WHO imposed dress codes.
                      WHO banned Rock and Roll (Ever see Footloose? smirk)
                      WHO imposed McCarthyism?
                      WHO conducted the (un)Holy Inquisition?
                      SALEM WITCH CRAFT TRIALS?

                      And … WHEN WAS THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING? bwaaaaa haaaa

                    14. Or, alternatively, give please give us the ability to mute certain annoying curmudgeons.

                      The thread is clear and undeniable.
                      You launched TWO unprovoked assaults, snowflake.

                    15. (Boleface in defense of verbal assault and aggression)

                      Why is this “hate-filled,” Mr, McGoo? Or are you trying to censor all opposing views, which your Authoritarian Right has done for centuries?

                      1)
                      What rights are included under Liberty?
                      What rights are included under Pursuit of Happiness?
                      What rights are included by the Ninth Amendment?
                      HOW are all these never-named rights determined and applied (since the 1500s)?

                      If two rights are in conflict, and both are absolute, how would YOU resolve the conflict?

                      2) The link, immediately above, goes directly to Fox News which indeed proves you wrong.

                      Anything else?

                  1. Definitions are more useful. I could spend all of eternity giving examples of odd numbers. But concepts are more useful than enumeration (or sneering) for odd numbers and individual rights. In ethics class I was taught that “a right is a moral claim to freedom of action.” This makes sense once you grok (kind of like a prerequisite course for credit) that freedom is the absence of coercion.

    2. Abortion has been conducted, and fully legal, until the 1900s, when surgical abortion replaced herbal abortion.

      Wrong. The UK’s Offenses Against the Person Act, 1861, made abortion a felony punishable by penal servitude for life.

      1. AKKK, I meant the 19th Century. Thanks for agreeing with my point!

        And in THIS country, the woman’s unalienable right to Liberty is precisely equal to the fetal child’s unalienable right to Life, That’s what unalienable MEANS!

        1. Neither the constitution (All persons born…) nor the Supreme Court ascribe a “right” to coerce pregnant women or their doctors at gunpoint. Just ask Robert Dear, Scott Roeder, Paul Jennings Hill, Michael Griffin or the at-large sockpuppet who killed Dr Barnett Slepian. (Paul, if you confess the statute of limitations will doubtless protect you).

          1. Don’t forget the Ninth Amendment … forbids ALL levels of government to deny or disparaeg ANY of the rights NOT named in the Constitution.

            1. There is no constitutional right to having the taxpayers foot the bill for your healthcare. The libertarian position is to end Medicaid altogether and to defund all health organization’s. They should run on the free market.

              1. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
                Wrong issue AGAIN, Vince

                1. The issue here is government funding of Planned Parenthood, which you are defending. Lol.

          2. How about my right to not subsidize PP? You fake libertarians are turning this into an argument about abortion when the issue is money.

            1. ANOTHER SCREWUP — NINE ON THIS PAGE!!!
              (so far)

              How about my right to not subsidize PP?

              YOU DON’T, SUCKER (snort)

              You fake libertarians are turning this into an argument about abortion when the issue is money.

              The Christian Taliban either way.
              It’s about conservatards (phony conservatives) being totally and hopelessly brainwashed by the political elite.
              Puppets dancing eagerly on a string.

              I’m embarrassed for you.

              1. Medicaid = my money. Duh.

    3. How can you claim to be a libertarian yet support the government forcing taxpayers to subsidize a private organization like PP? Psst. Libertarians are against that.

    4. John Galt, Jr. is a fake Bill Maher style “libertarian” who supports big government stealing from the taxpayers and giving to PP.

      End Medicaid.

      1. How can you claim to be a libertarian yet support the government forcing taxpayers to subsidize a private organization like PP? Psst. Libertarians are against that.

        YOU’RE THE IDIOT WHO SAYS END MEDICAID. WHICH IS NOT LIBERTARIAN … IT’S AUTHORITARIAN … NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU SPEW YOUR FASCIST LIES

        Elsewhere on this page. Or have somebody else explain fee markets and individual liberty, in words of one syllable

        1. Libertarians are for ending Medicaid. Medicaid is socialism. Let charities take care of the bums instead.

      2. Behold the Authoritarian Right lecturing ANYBODY from his ignorance of libertarian principles (hence boldface)

        fake Bill Maher style “libertarian” who supports big government stealing from the taxpayers and giving to PP.

        HOW MANY TIMES MUST I EDUCATE VINCE SMITH ON INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND FREE MARKET OUTCOMES???
        AND HIS BRAINWASHED WACKINESS ON PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING … WHICH IS MOSTLY MEDICAID ,… AND INNER-CITY FAMILY PLANNING, PASSED UNDER FORD, WHICH HAS SLASHED INNER-CITY ABORTIONS.

        These precious snowflakes are being manipulated into demanding INCREASED ABORTIONS
        As Christ weeps in silent shame.

        I assume you’re being exploited by your faith (which is the vast majority of suckers like you)

        1. It’s not the government’s job to help bums. Leave that to charity.

          “Which is mostly Medicaid”? Medicaid is socialism and should be repealed. I should not be forced to pay for some lazy bum’s healthcare with my tax dollars.

          Ford was a RINO. I’m not impressed by the fact that he signed the stupid bill. He also supported affirmative action and the ERA.

          I’m an atheist. Nice try, idiot.

          1. It’s not the government’s job to help bums. Leave that to charity.

            (snort)
            That’s MY point, You have NO CLUE how to restore that charity ,.. don’t give a shit about doing so ,… and repeatedly RIDICULE any attempts to do so.

            I’m an atheist. Nice try, idiot.

            Nobody say otherwise. (sneer)

        2. It’s not the government’s job to help bums. Leave that to charity.

          “Which is mostly Medicaid”? Medicaid is socialism and should be repealed. I should not be forced to pay for some lazy bum’s healthcare with my tax dollars.

          Ford was a RINO. I’m not impressed by the fact that he signed the stupid bill. He also supported affirmative action and the ERA.

          I’m an atheist. Nice try, idiot.

        3. It’s not the government’s job to help bums. Leave that to charity.

          “Which is mostly Medicaid”? Medicaid is socialism and should be repealed. I should not be forced to pay for some lazy bum’s healthcare with my tax dollars.

          Ford was a RINO. I’m not impressed by the fact that he signed the stupid bill. He also supported affirmative action and the ERA.

          I’m an atheist. Nice try, idiot.

  19. Kavanaugh is a Bush lackey and the Bush family has supported PP for generations. Kavanaugh will also side with liberals on immigration issues because the heir to the Bush political legacy is Mexican! Lololololol!

    1. Ah! National Socialist infiltrators announce their presence by calling communists liberals and demanding fetus-forfeiture for their Lebensborn Jugend-schule.

      1. #fuckoffhihn

        1. #PityTheFools

  20. Lol.

    It’s just funny okay?

  21. Pay for your own abortions

    1. That’s what happens, hopelessly brainwashed one.

      (Obama was born in Hawaii. His birth was announced in the local paper at the time .. but he was actually born in Kenya. George Soros’ grandfather was already scheming to get the Sotero guy elected President, so they planted the phony birth announcement, and three generations of Soroses then conspired to make their Chosen One the Leader of the Free World. Trump and Pence are spawns of Satan)

      1. Fuck off Hihn.

      2. I just went and got a passport.
        I don’t recall being able to prove citizenship through providing a “birth announcement” from the local paper.
        To date, we haven’t seen a legitimate version of a birth certificate. If one existed, you would think it would have been, quickly produced. In fact, the first one shown was removed and another, also of dubious sourcing, was released.
        People, all over the world take extreme measures to have their children considered an American citizen – ever hear of “birthright tourism”?
        And, let’s not forget, that the initiating event in this was the mini-bio, of 0blama’s own book, that he had to have seen, that listed him as being Kenyan. Why would he let it out with such a falsehood? Why can’t we see his college records to see if he was accepted as a foreign student? There should be passport records used when his mother moved him to Indonesia. Why haven’t we seen those?

        1. I don’t recall being able to prove citizenship through providing a “birth announcement” from the local paper.

          IT PROVES WHERE HE WAS BORN … WITHIN A WEEK OF HIS BEING BORN!!!

          (Do Trumpsters COMPETE to be wackier than even The Donald?)

        2. Obama, like most presidential candidates, got a copy of his birth certificate right around the time he announced his candidacy pretty much a year before he put it online for all to see. So why would he have had a fake copy produced when it wasn’t an issue??

          1. Because Trump is a psycho, then still learning how to brainwash his goobers.

      3. Newspapers in Kenya describe Obama as a Native Son, and his own literary agent repeated the stuff. This is no bigger deal than Lyin’ Ted being born in Canada. Then again, Ted’s campaign literature does not rub Texan’s noses in that fact, and he beat the pants off of Carbon Tax Beto, the NSDAP censorship advocate.

      4. Pay for your own birth control too, Galt.

        End Medicaid.

        1. AGAIN! Vince Smith manipulated into demanding MOAR ABORTIONS
          And PROMOTING PROGRESSIVES LIKE BERNIE AND ELIZABETH.

          Pay for your own birth control tooElsewhere on this page. Keep reading until it sinks in.

          PAY ATTENTION, BABY KILLER
          Title X Family Planning was passed under Nixon, for low-income Americans — to reduce MASSIVE abortions among the poor.

          Low-income abortions have been cut by more than 50%
          The program also provides testing for STDs and HIV.
          Every dollar spent on Title X saves $6-7 (estimates vary) in Medicaid treatment, including childbirth.

          End Medicaid.

          Vince ALSO bamboozled into OPPOSING FREE MARKET OUTCOMES

          ONE MORE TIME: Pre-Medicare/Medicaid, Americans always paid health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income, provided by thousands of “charity hospitals,” financed by churches, charities, and more.

          THAT is a free market OUTCOME

          PRO-LIBERTY libertarians are the ONLY ones seeking a transition back to free market OUTCOMES.
          ANTI-GUMMINT GOOBERS ARE A MAJOR THREAT TO MY LIBERTY, free markets and humanity.

          If Bernie and Elizabeth are the ONLY ones claiming to provide what PEOPLE WANT TO PAY FOR … None of your BELLOWING can save us.

          As Christ weeps in silent shame.

          1. “Moar” isn’t a word, idiot.

            1. “Moar” isn’t a word, idiot.

              ANOTHER FUCKUP!
              It’s a spelling that ridicules bellowing blowhards . Fairly common usage.

              moar
              1. A combination of “more” and “roar”. (smirk)

          2. Check yourself into a psych ward, okay.

            1. SNOWFLAKE WAS TRIGGERED! (sneer)
              Prove me wrong, THUG
              BE A MAN,

              The government funds Planned Parenthood.

              THAT was ridiculed here.

              And here!

              And repeated EVERY time you repeated your same authoritarian THUGGISHNESS, slaver.

              = = = = = = = = = = == = = = = = = = = == = = ==

              MY TONE AND BOLDFACE IN SELF-DEFENSE OF REPEATED VERBAL ASSAULTS AND AGGRESSION … BY A *PROVEN* SLAVER

              1. PP is paid by Medicaid. Medicaid = the government. Duh.

                1. EVASION AND DENIAL — WHAT YOU “RESPIONDED” TO
                  both are psychiatric disorders

                  1. Ad hominem.

          3. You have to get rid of Medicaid to have a “free market outcome.” Duh.

            1. You have to get rid of Medicaid to have a “free market outcome.” Duh.

              Pathetic sack-of-shIt LIAR. You said “end” it …which PRECLUDES A PHASED TRANSITION.

              WHY DID IT TAKE YOU SEVERAL HOURS AND OVER 30 COMMENTS TO REALIZE … YOU AGREE WITH ME! bwaaaaaaa haaaaaa

              WHY DID YOU SPEND ALL THAT TIME ATTACKING ,… YOURSELF?? (snort)

              I’m dong this ONLY to PROVE how wacky you anti-gummint slavers are.
              KEEP GOING … PLEASE.

              I’ve linked my blog to you … dozens of them (so far) are laughing HYSTERICALLY
              A few think it’s ME posting under your name, “Nobody can be THAT stupid in public,”

              Does your heath insurance cover an ego transplant?

              1. Why not just end it? Why does it have to be phased?

                1. Why not just end it? Why does it have to be phased?

                  SEVENTH REPEAT, ANTI-GUMMINT SLAVER

                  It is AGAIN your ignorance of free markets, and your contempt for its outcomes.

                  The private charity infrastructure .. which provided UNIVERSAL TREATMENT … and the private charities/churches/fraternals/foundations that funded it … no longer exist. It must all be rebuilt. Why can’t you grasp this?

                  No one can predict how long that will take, and in what order, So … how do we return the money from government toi private — at the same pace that the funds are needed or can be used? ONE MORE TIME ..”

                  My own preferred proposal is a tax CREDIT for all donations to that private rebuilding. Then, the dollars will transfer EXACTLY as the funds are restored … as determined by the voluntary actions of individual Americans.

                  And … again … also unlike your intellectually bankrupt Authoritarian Right, PRO-LIBERTY libertarians would privatize the ENTIRE “safety net” the same way — donations to ANY life support charity.

                  Sorry, I cannot dumb it down any further, The outcome is HATED by your authoritarian right, and the equivalent left.

                  CHOICE!!!!

                  A liberal might choose to support anything that helped anyone who walked in the door.
                  A conservative might prefe some sort of work requirement,.

                  Who the FUCK are YOU to deny such choice, slaver?
                  ,.

                  1. When did I ever say I oppose the idea of tax credits?

              2. I have no idea what your blog is. It’s probably just you talking to yourself aka sock puppets. Get help.

                1. WHINY POOR LOSER (smirk)

    2. Choor menh. Just repeal all laws regulating the practice of medicine at gunpoint! After that it’s “anything you say, Butch.”

  22. Good for Roberts and Kavanaugh. It past time to tell the misogynists in the legislatures of Louisiana and Kansas that they cannot hold poor women’s and children’s health care hostage to their need to control women. What Roberts and Kavanaugh may realize is that repealing abortion rights is to open real can of worms. We are talking about women’s rights to control their bodies and about a right that has been in place for over 50 years. In Ireland it took the death of only one women, Savita Halappanavar, to get the people to affirm the rights of women to make their own decisions. Would it take more deaths in America to get the same results?

    1. No we are talking about FUNDING it, not taking away any of your rights. Taxpayer money is not all money.

    2. Huh.I read the article above and found this:
      “But these cases are not about abortion rights. They are about private rights of action under the Medicaid Act. Resolving the question presented here would not even affect Planned Parenthood’s ability to challenge the States’ decisions; it concerns only the rights of individual Medicaid patients to bring their own suits.”
      What article were you responding to?

      1. Learn what unalienable rights are

        1. What did he say that suggests he doesn’t understand the concept?

          1. If you have to ask, then you too are ignorant.

            1. It helps to start with “what is a right?” Then you can watch Lutheran National Socialists try to nail their qualifiers and faeces to that. I recommend Tara Smith, PhD, “Moral Rights and Political Freedom”, followed by her “Viable Virtues”. Tara teaches ethics at U. of Texas at Austin.

              1. I just use the Ninth Amendment, which forbids ALL: levels of government to deny or disparate ANY of the rights not enumerated in the Constitution.

                The I ask goobers to list what those unnamed rights are. EXPLODES their brain!

    3. Planned parenthood doesn’t provide healthcare. They kill babies, hand out referrals and donate to Democrats. They don’t do healthcare.

      1. Planned parenthood doesn’t provide healthcare. They kill babies, hand out referrals and donate to Democrats. They don’t do healthcare.

        (smirk) FOX NEWS says JesseAZ is full of crap, yet again.

        Planned Parenthood is a Medicaid Provider.

        THIS CASE WAS ABOUT MEDICAID FUNDING

        1. End Medicaid.

          1. Anti-gummint slaver – OPPOSES free-market outcomes.
            TOTALLY ignorant of PRO-LIBERTY solutions.
            FUCK THE POOR — BUT DEFEND THE ELDERLY (who vote)

            In a free market — before Medicaid and Medicare — Americans willingly and freely financed health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income. Thousands of private “charity hospitals” were financed by a wide variety of churches, charities, fraternal and ethnic lodges. Much as Kiwanis/Eagles/Rotary still excel in private charity.

            Healthcare for the less privileged traces to the 1500s, slaver.

            ONLY pro-liberty libertarians seek a return to … INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, slaver.
            Several different proposals all included a transition from government to private funding … because the private charity infrastructure must be rebuilt .. and the funds must transfer at the same pace as the restructuring.
            The easiest to explain and do is a tax CREDIT for donations to private charity health care.

            WAY too complex for you slavers. BELLOWING “Git gummint out” is all you can grasp.

            *** Now, THINK, slaver. If Americans have always been willing to pay for universal treatment … and ONLY progressives are claiming to provide it …. WHO WINS? … Which is WHY anti-gummint = authoritarian slavers.

            We’d also replace the ENTIRE safety net with tax credits.
            For over two centuries, we’ve called it “consent of the governed,” slaver.

            Anything else?

      2. They do defeat National Socialist Republican candidates. That by itself qualifies as protecting the economy from the decrease in life expectancy attending Crashes and Depressions–clearly an avoidable health hazard.

      3. Note to foreign readers: The Republican Party regards bombing women, kids, houses and villages in Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam and Iraq and shooting American teenagers over plant leaves–as “health care”

    4. Were you a guard at Treblinka?

      1. Infantile.
        But typical.
        Did he also stick out his tongue?

  23. So now I guess once we fund something we are required to do so for eternity, just because.

  24. Use taxpayer money to fund abortions: The libertarian stance.

    1. PROVE IT, brainwashed conservatard goober

      1. Go away, you nasty, cynical, pseudo-intellectual salvo of confused nonsense, obtuse accusations, and absurd formatting.

  25. You know who else was appointed and then did something else than expected?

    1. Jar Jar Binks?

    2. Chance the gardener?

    3. Osama bin Laden?

  26. Roberts and Kavanaugh are smart to dial back the appearance of partisanship.

    1. They understand the Supreme Court needs political capital to make BIG decisions…like overturning Roe v Wade.

        1. It would be UNLIBERTARIAN. Roe v Wade was copied from the 1972 LP platform 45 days after the electoral votes were counted. Libby Linebarger, of heavily libertarian Austin Texas, was the FEMALE attorney who argued the case during the election in which the LP had a FEMALE VP candidate. Denying certiorari is the Court’s way of saying only women should have a say in any of this. Glossolalia, murder and coercion aside, men add nothing to the discussion. Canada settled the entire question satisfactorily when Quebec, as Catholic as Ireland, quit letting male pederasts write laws to coerce women. Ireland, BTW, recently amended its Constitution to bar male pederasts from singling out women for coercion–much like the 9th and 14th Amendments do in These States and Dominions.

          1. Feminist cuck.

          2. Many libertarians are pro life, based on the reasoning that abortion itself violates the NAP.

            1. Many libertarians are pro life, based on the reasoning that abortion itself violates the NAP.

              FIFTH REMINDER of why that SHITS on equal, unalienable and/or God-given rights. Virtually ANY concept of individual liberty (sigh)

              As you troll fascism on a libertarian web site

              1. P.S,. NO libertarian would IMPOSE their pro-life views by state force.
                OR PRO-CHOICE PREFERENCE,

                THAT’S WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT!

                “THE MORAL IS THE CHOSEN”

                1. I totally disagree. If you are harming another human being, government should have every right to step in. I would consider abortion one of those cases. You happen to believe abortion is okay, but many don’t. One can be a libertarian and pro-life.

                  Idiot fake libertarian Gary “Jews should have to bake cakes for Nazis” Johnson alienated many potential voters by supporting legalized abortion. I talked to many conservatives who weren’t sold on Trump but voted for him in the end because Johnson’s abortion views were unacceptable. Libertarians should try to appeal to pro-life conservatives, whom they have more in common with, instead of to commie leftists. Duh.

                  1. STILL REFUSE TO CHALLENGE WHY YOU’RE AN ANTI-LIBERTY AUTHORITARIAN.

                    STILL DENY THE DEFINITION OF UNALIENABLE!!!!

                    All unalienable rights are absolute — by definition (smirk) They include
                    1) Life
                    2) Liberty (a package of unnamed rights)
                    3) Pursuit of Happiness (a package of unnamed rights)
                    4) ALL rights not spelled out in the Constitution (a package of unnamed rights, that NO level of government may deny or disparage,

                    So …
                    What rights are included under Liberty?
                    What rights are included under Pursuit of Happiness?
                    What rights are included by the Ninth Amendment?
                    HOW are all these never-named rights determined and applied (since the 1500s)?

                    If two rights are in conflict, and both are absolute, how would YOU resolve the conflict?

                    Why did you make such a total fool of yourself?

                    1. Infantile.

        2. I thought libertarians claimed abortion was a state issue. You’re a fraud.

          1. I thought libertarians claimed abortion was a state issue. You’re a fraud.

            Jammed THAT up your pathetic, statist ASS just below.

            (sneer)

            1. I don’t read your links.

              1. I don’t read your links.

                REFUSES ABSOLUTE PROOF
                PROUD TO BE A TYPICAL AUTHORITARIAN

        3. Ellis aka Galt, Jr., you are a fraud. Libertarians believe abortion is a state issue.

          1. FUCKUP #67!

            Libertarians believe abortion is a state issue.

            Only PHONY libertarians — like Ron Paul — DEFYING the Constitution that each state can have it’s own definition of human life.

            Ron promotes the KKK’s RACIST view of States Rights … the OPPOSITE of Federalism.

            PAY ATTENTION….. AGAIN, SLAVER

            You’ve endorsed MANY oral atrocities here. Do you now defend his SHAMEFUL bill that would have FORBIDDEN the Supreme Court to even CONSIDER challenges to DOMA?

            Would YOU make homosexuals the first group DENIED the defense of their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS since slavery?

            When your SHAMEFUL attempt FAILS .. would you then say “Rogue Judges overturned DOMA” … in violation of the 9th and 14th Amendments, the Supremacy Clause …. Balance of power between three CO-EQUAL branches, like your fellow slaver, Donald J Trump?

            In 1957, Ark Governor Orval Faubus activated his state militia … armed force to keep nine kids from registering at Little Rock’s Central High School.. President Eisenhower sent armed troops, ordered to use armed force if necessary … to defend nine black kids. Faubus caved.

            Later, Faubus defended his barbarity, said he was protecting the citizens of Arkansas from an “overreaching Supreme Court..”

            Ron Paul stands with Orval Faubus,
            SO DO YOU

            BY WHAT RIGHT DO YOU REPEATEDLY DISGRACE INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, SLAVER?

            1. Gay marriage is an equal protection issue; abortion is not. While I do support the right to privacy, I think it’s ludicrous that murdering the unborn was ruled to be covered by that principle. Overturn Roe, and let the states and people decide.

              1. Gay marriage is an equal protection issue; abortion is not.

                The right to Life and Liberty are precisely equal Now you fuckup what unalienable means..

                One more time.

                STILL DENY THE DEFINITION OF UNALIENABLE!!!!

                ALL unalienable rights are absolute — by definition They include
                1) Life
                2) Liberty (a package of unnamed rights)
                3) Pursuit of Happiness (a package of unnamed rights)
                4) ALL rights not spelled out in the Constitution (a package of unnamed rights, that NO level of government may deny or disparage,

                So …
                What rights are included under Liberty?
                What rights are included under Pursuit of Happiness?
                What rights are included by the Ninth Amendment?
                HOW are all these never-named rights determined and applied (since the 1500s)?

                *****If two rights are in conflict, and both are absolute, how would YOU resolve the conflict?

                This is Junior High stuff

                1. I do not believe abortion should be considered a ninth amendment right. It’s murder. The end.

                  Pursuit of happiness is not in the Constitution, moron.

                  1. (Posted in defense of ANOTHER aggression by an Authoritarian Right cyber-bully)

                    FUCKUP #70 BY THE THUG/STALKER

                    I do not believe abortion should be considered a ninth amendment right.

                    YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE 9TH AMENDMENT SAYS!!!

                    **** FIFTH TIME: WHAT DOES UNALIENABLE MEAN?

                    Pursuit of happiness is not in the Constitution, moron

                    (SNEER)
                    The Ninth Amendment that you know NOTHING about

                    Bend over RFLMAO

                    Ninth Amendment
                    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people

                    WHAT ARE THOSE “OTHER RIGHTS” … RETAINED BY THE PEOPLE … WHICH NO LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT MAY DENY OR DISPARAGE … AND YOU KNOW *NOTHING* ABOUT?

                    tap …; tap … tap …..; tap …

                    moron.

                    BWAAAAAA HAAAAAAA

                    What are THOSE rights … that GOOBERS (Like you and Ron Paul) say “aren’t in there,” SLAVER?

                    When will you
                    a) Learn the Constitution?
                    b) Graduate high school?
                    c) Stop stalking me?

            2. You’re a scumbag for attacking Ron Paul, btw. You, like that other fake libertarian huckster George Phillies (whom you sound a lot like), agree with him on 90% yet castigate him for minor stuff you disagree on yet forgive Gary Johnson for wanting to force Jews to bake cakes for Nazis. Ron Paul has forgotten more about economics than most of us will ever know, and he is the leading voice for liberty in America. He is anti-war, pro-capitalism, pro-gun, pro-free trade, etc. etc. etc. He’s also won elections unlike the Libertarian Party, and his son is going places. Accept it, and support the Paul revolution.

              1. You’re a scumbag for attacking Ron Paul, btw.

                PROVE IT — COWARD

                Do you now defend his SHAMEFUL bill that would have FORBIDDEN the Supreme Court to even CONSIDER challenges to DOMA?

                Would YOU make homosexuals the first group DENIED the defense of their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS since slavery?

                When your SHAMEFUL attempt FAILS .. would you then say “Rogue Judges overturned DOMA” … in violation of the 9th and 14th Amendments, the Supremacy Clause …. Balance of power between three CO-EQUAL branches, like your fellow slaver, Donald J Trump?

                In 1957, Ark Governor Orval Faubus activated his state militia … armed force to keep nine kids from registering at Little Rock’s Central High School.. President Eisenhower sent armed troops, ordered to use armed force if necessary … to defend nine black kids. Faubus caved.

                Later, Faubus defended his barbarity, said he was protecting the citizens of Arkansas from an “overreaching Supreme Court..”

                Ron Paul stands with Orval Faubus,
                SO DO YOU

                SHAME ON YOU

            3. For many years it was not clear that gay marriage was a constitutional right, btw. Comparing that issue to the Dixiecrats, segregation, and Jim Crowis just silly. BTW, Ron Paul has said that Jim Crow was unconstitutional.

              1. BTW, Ron Paul has said that Jim Crow was unconstitutional.

                I JUST PROVED HE’S FULL OF SHIT … A STATES RIGHTS BIGOT

                AND YOU RAN AWAY FROM THE CHALLENGE, PUSSY

              2. MORE COWARDLY EVASION (Ron Paul)

                PROVE IT

                Do you defend his SHAMEFUL bill that would have FORBIDDEN the Supreme Court to even CONSIDER challenges to DOMA?

                Would YOU make homosexuals the first group DENIED the defense of their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS since slavery?

                When your SHAMEFUL attempt FAILS .. would you then say “Rogue Judges overturned DOMA” … in violation of the 9th and 14th Amendments, the Supremacy Clause …. Balance of power between three CO-EQUAL branches, like your fellow slaver, Donald J Trump?

                In 1957, Ark Governor Orval Faubus activated his state militia … armed force to keep nine kids from registering at Little Rock’s Central High School.. President Eisenhower sent armed troops, ordered to use armed force if necessary … to defend nine black kids. Faubus caved.

                Later, Faubus defended his barbarity, said he was protecting the citizens of Arkansas from an “overreaching Supreme Court..”

                Ron Paul stands with Orval Faubus,
                SO DO YOU

                SHAME ON YOU BOTH

                EDUCATE YOURSELF — AND STOP STALKING ME

                1. PROVE IT — COWARD

                  ANOTHER fail by Vince.

                    1. (Posted in defended of multiple aggression .. by a COWARDLY, hit-and-run STALKER

                      MORE COWARDLY EVASION (Ron Paul)
                      AND INFANTILE …

                      PROVE IT!

                      Do you defend his SHAMEFUL bill that would have FORBIDDEN the Supreme Court to even CONSIDER challenges to DOMA?

                      Would YOU make homosexuals the first group DENIED the defense of their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS since slavery?

                      When your SHAMEFUL attempt FAILS .. would you then say “Rogue Judges overturned DOMA” … in violation of the 9th and 14th Amendments, the Supremacy Clause …. Balance of power between three CO-EQUAL branches, like your fellow slaver, Donald J Trump?

                      In 1957, Ark Governor Orval Faubus activated his state militia … armed force to keep nine kids from registering at Little Rock’s Central High School.. President Eisenhower sent armed troops, ordered to use armed force if necessary … to defend nine black kids. Faubus caved.

                      Later, Faubus defended his barbarity, said he was protecting the citizens of Arkansas from an “overreaching Supreme Court..”

                      Ron Paul stands with Orval Faubus,
                      SO DO YOU

                      SHAME ON YOU BOTH

                      LEARN WHAT “CUCK” MEANS (SNORT)

  27. For goodness sake.

    Planned Parenthood charges. They collect what they can for billable services.

    They are Medicaid providers which is state run. If they cannot meet requirements to bill for something like an exam and contraceptive prescription like any other provider, the state needs to prove the case for denial.

    The real problem is that PP has put up a wall between abortion and general GYN services. Strong abortion opponents will never buy that.

    1. They’ve been brainwashed. On damn near everything.
      That’s the downside of blind faith. Being the manipulated tool of a power elite.

    2. Note to foreign readers: “strong abortion opponents” means Christianofascist and Islamofascist men

      1. Actually MOOSE LIMBS are okay with abortion.

        Strong abortion opponents = real men who haven’t yet been cucked by the feminazi hags.

        1. Again, slaver, that was JAMMED UP YOUR ASS Here
          FOURTH NOTICE.

          Strong abortion opponents = real men who haven’t yet been cucked by the feminazi hags.

          I RESENT your view that “real men” are ignorant, bigoted, PROVEN SLAVERS. who can publicly humiliate themselves over 50 times on a singe page.

          Over half of them in only two comments
          here.

          And here!

          And repeated EVERY time you repeated your same authoritarian bullshit, slaver.

            1. PROOF vs infantile slaver

              1. Cuck.

                Why are you commenting under two different names?

                1. Libertarians stick together … defend the same values …. especially against AGGRESSION.
                  It’s called the Non-Aggression Principle.

                  Chill, Dude, no conspiracy there either

            2. DOEN’T KNOW WHAT “CUCK” MEANS EITHER!!!

  28. Let me quote a tweet:

    Alexandra DeSanctis
    ?
    CNN claimed this morning that the “Supreme Court sides with Planned Parenthood in funding fight.” In fact, SCOTUS denied cert in a case that had to do with standing, not with the merits of abortion funding. My post at @NRO:
    10:10 AM – 10 Dec 2018

    Short version: Denying cert should never be read as “siding with” one argument or the other in any given case. That’s not how any of this works.

    1. You are assuming they were acting in goood faith. How do you explain that all the commies lined up against hearing the case?

      Sorry, they are partisans. Maybe Kav and Robo are the only honest brokers?

      1. Sorry, they are partisans.

        But you’re not???

        all the commies lined up

        Is this still called shooting one’s self in the foot?

  29. ” So what explains the Court’s refusal to do its job here? ”

    Cucks gonna cuck.

    So much of the Right is always afraid of exerting their lawful authority, which correctly convinces the Left that they need feel no constraint to their lawlessness.

      1. It’s so cute that Hihn narrates his insane gibbering to us.

        1. THAT IS RIDICULE, STATIST THUG

  30. Clarence Thomas is such a fucking joke. The only bigger joke is his wife.

    It’s not judicial activism because the founders were all basically Jerry Falwell in powdered wigs.

    1. You could have phrase that better.

      Or simply said that originalists are for strict interpretation … unless it’s in-con-veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen-yent.
      Like, oh, Separation. They are such moral frauds.

      1. Seeing ideological Butabi brothers, Hihn and Tony, congratulate each other, makes me chuckle.

        1. ONLY FASCIST PARTISAN GOOBERS — LIKE FANCYLAD — SAY IT’S TREASON TO AGREE WITH A LIBERAL … ON ANYTHING … EVER.

          The precious snowflakes are LAUGHABLY IGNORANT that libertarians have been NEITHER right not left … for ovet 50 years, (snort)

          Note fancylad’s TOTAL lack of TOLERANCE for opposing views, which is why the right has practiced oppression for centuries … book burning, speech codes, Movie/TV/Book censorship, McCarthyism, the (un)Holy Inquisition, Trumpism … and the SHAME at Charlottesville.

          MAKE MY DAY, PUNK

          Left – Right = Zero

          1. “Left – right = zero” is another Hihn quote.

            As a math expert, I realize what you are saying is that left = right. That is nonsense.

            1. FUCKING STUPID …
              Algebra is taught in the 7th grade

              As a math expert, realize what you are saying is that left = right. That is nonsense.YOU’RE A MATH MORON! (snicker)

              Left – Right = Zero means they have EQUAL VALUE … WHATEVER VALUE ONE CHOOSES TO ASSIGN.

              “Left – right = zero” is another Hihn quote.Is that your excuse for being a total jackass.

              IT’S A COMMON QUOTE FOR ANYONE WHO WAS A LIBERTARIAN 30-50 YEARS AGO, (sneer)
              ALONG WITH

              A) Left and right are obsolete

              B) Republicans want government out of your wallet and into your bedroom
              Democrats want government out of your bedroom and into your wallet
              Libertarians want government in NEITHER

              THINK. A and B are just different ways of expressing …. wait for tit ……
              LEFT – RIGHT = ZERO

              You have weighed in on four different topics here ,…. apparently to punish us for HUMILIATING you on free-marker healthcare..

              Libertarians (and some others) have a phrase for that, too … BELLOWING BLOWHARD

              1. Yeah because Medicaid is free markets. Lol.

                1. Yeah because Medicaid is free markets. Lol.

                  SAD SACK LOSER

              2. “They have equal value” means left = right. Duh.

                1. “They have equal value” means left = right. Duh.

                  MASSIVE FUCKUP #53!

                  Is $5 worth of potatoes = $5 worth of gasoline?
                  Or … EQUAL VALUE, slaver?

        1. (sneer) State your case, coward and NOT as a 12-year-old on a hissy fit

          Or simply said that originalists are for strict interpretation … unless it’s in-con-veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen-yent.
          Like, oh, Separation. They are such moral frauds.

          Anything else, slaver/stalker?

          1. Yes, there’s one more thing.

            CUCK

    2. The founding fathers would be against government funding Planned Parenthood.

      1. The founding fathers would be against government funding Planned Parenthood.

        ANOTHER MASSIVE FUCKUP., VINCE SMITH

        1) I’ve already called out your MORAL HYPOCRISY for not including MEDICARE. You and your fucking ruling class has over $50 trillion in unfunded promises for Medicare … But Medicaid is so TRAGICALLY underfunded .. that … ONE MORE TIME ASSHOLE — PP is the ONLY healthcare provider for millions of inner-city women — but they’re merely black … because NO privater physician can afford to treat ANY Medicaid … unless there are enough privately insured to recover their losses from, with overchargjng. Seniors vote. Pore folk do not. SHAME ON YOU

        2) Then your fellow MORONS say that Medicaid subsidizes government funded abortion!!! YOUR PITIFUL BRAINS BELIEVE THE BIGGEST MONEY LOSER IN AMERICA CAN SUBSIDIZED ANYTHING … AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A MATH WIZARD … (snort) ,.. ABORTION SUBSIDIZE MEDICAID , BY PAYING ALL THE CLINIC OVERHEAD ….ACCOUNTING IS TAUGHT IN THE NINTH GRADE!

        3) The ULTIMATE Founding Father — Thomas Jefferson — said the Constitution is now WORTHLESS … Consent of the DEAD, not of the governed … rule by might not right, WHO IS BEING GOVERNED?

        This is a LIBERTARIAN web site.
        You are a CLOWN and a THUG, Slaver

        1. I don’t like Medicare either, but it’s not the same as Medicaid. Medicaid is straight up welfare. You at least have to pay into Medicare. It’s a forced insurance program. I would change Medicare by making it optional for younger people.

          1. EVASION
            ANOTHER RIGHT-WING SCREWUP!

            I would change Medicare by making it optional for younger people.

            That’s almost as fucked up as CATO. HOW WILL YOU PAY FOR IT?
            (Stop sneeriig, slaver)

            Every penny of SS revenue is budgeted and committed to pay benefits.
            In about a year, revenues will be insufficient, and the Trust Fund will be tapped
            In about 16 years, the Trust Fund will be depleted.

            You want to make that WORSE. by an impossible to forecast amount.
            Could YOU get elected on that

            Anything else you’ve been totally manipulated on?

            1. Sell off government assets to pay for it.

            2. Many things could easily be done to add funds to the trust fund to pay the people who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives.

              1. Many things could easily be done

                You FAIL to name one … as always

                1. I did name one. Scroll up.

  31. Wow. Color me embarrassed. I don’t have any idea how I’m ever going to unload these wire coat-hangers now.

  32. So I don’t even have a problem with abortion being legal… But what I wanna know is, why do these wanks get to use my money to kill their babies? Indirectly I know, but a dollar in their coffers is a dollar they can use for whatevs.

    Also, as a man, where are MY abortion rights??? We need to start fighting for a father right to abort his children! There’s no way it’s fair for a women to get to stick a man with a lifetime of child support for a kid he doesn’t want! If I’d knocked up some skank with a nice rack in my early 20s, why should I not be able to choose to kill the baby too? If a mother can abort a kid she doesn’t want, the father should have the same right!

    Maybe THIS is the fight the right should take on to troll the fuck out of leftists… There’s actually a lot more sense and logic in it than most of their arguments on most subjects…

    1. So I don’t even have a problem with abortion being legal… But what I wanna know is, why do these wanks get to use my money to kill their babies?

      (snort)
      You have been SO totally brainwashed.
      And your second sentence shows your first one to be a lie. Shameful con man.

      The rest is typical bat-shit crazy from the Authoritarian Right.

      1. No, I’m just trolling. I really don’t care if people have abortions. I’m not religious.

        It’s not because I can’t see the moral arguments from people who are anti abortion… It’s more a practical matter, whether it is morally right or wrong. Most people that have abortions shouldn’t be breeding. They’re generally too young to be having kids, crazy disaster case people nobody thinks should have kids, welfare cases, or sometimes people who just don’t want children, which would make them shitty parents anyway if forced to do it. Even if it is morally wrong, it is a practical good, as morally wrong things often can be.

        When I was younger I probably would have had an abortion if I had an accident with the wrong person… At this point in my life, I don’t know what I would do. It would be 99% dependent on how crazy the broad was I think, but with a stronger leaning towards having the kid than when I was saaay 18.

        But there is no reason my money should be paying for it. The same goes for free condoms, STD tests, and whatever other crap PP does with my money.

        1. ONE MORE TIME FOR THE TERMINALLY BRAINWASHED (vek)
          TAXPAYER DOLLAR DO NOT PAY FOR ABORTIONS. THE REST IS YOU BEING MANIPULATED
          (except Medicaid does pay to save life of the mother — like all other women/insuranace)

          YOU HAVE BEEN TOTALLY BRAINWASHED TO OPPOSE …. FREE MARKET OUTCOMES
          Title X Family Planning was passed under Nixon, for low-income Americans — to reduce MASSIVE abortions among the poor.

          Low-income abortions have been cut by more than 50%
          The program also provides testing for STDs and HIV.
          Every dollar spent on Title X saves $6-7 (estimates vary) in Medicaid treatment, including childbirth.

          ONE MORE TIME: Pre-Medicare/Medicaid, Americans always paid health care for the uninsured, regardless of age or income, provided by thousands of “charity hospitals,” financed by churches, charities, fraternal and ethnic lodges –just as Kiwanis/Eagles/Rotary still do heavy charity support. (Fraternals were financiing indigent health care in the 1500s)

          THAT is a free market OUTCOME
          PRO-LIBERTY libertarians are the ONLY ones seeking a transition back to free market OUTCOMES.

          ANTI-GUMMINT GOOBERS (aka authoritarians) ARE A MAJOR THREAT TO LIBERTY, FREE MARKETS AND SIMPLE HUMANITY.

          THINK!
          If Bernie is the ONLY one claiming to provide what PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS PAID FOR, WILLINGLY … NO amount of anti-gummint BELLOWING can save us. Consent of the governed. Will of the people.

          SUPPORT INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND FREE-MARKETS, Slaver

          1. Taxpayers do pay for abortions. PP gets money for non-abortion services, which allows it to spend more donations on abortion.

            Furthermore, many states fund abortion directly with tax dollars, including California, where I live. So you are once again wrong.

            1. Taxpayers do pay for abortions. PP gets money for non-abortion services, which allows it to spend more donations on abortion.

              I just jammed THAT up your ass HERE

              Abortion subsidizes Medicaid … so you’re now MORE stupid on health care.

              Pay attention

              1) Medicaid pays 20-30% less than Medicare, . as little as $17 per visit.

              2) Roughly 1/3 of all doctors refuse Medicaid Medicaid eligibles have a HIGHER uninsured rate than private sector.

              3) PP is the SOLE Medicaid provider in many inner-cities — not enough privately-insured for doctors to recover their losses by overcharging.

              4) Accounting 101 (high school) PP can take Medicaid ONLY because abortions pay all the clinic overhead. Ask a high school kid about direct vs indirect costs

              5) YOU CALL YOURSELF AS MATH EXPERT … SO HOW CAN THE BIGGEST MONEY LOSER IN AMERICAN HEALTHCARE SUBSIDIZE ANYTHING, slaver?

              Furthermore, many states fund abortion directly with tax dollars, including California, where I live. So you are once again wrong.

              FUCK YOU, PSYCHO. California was the FIRST state to audit all the public health spending — after the PSYCHO video about baby parts.

              Googfe the Hyde Amendment, then wipe the egg off your puss.

              Cont’d

              1. Part 2/2

                (How can the same government have over $50 trillion in unfunded promises for Medicaid ? but underfund Medicaid so tragically?)

                Political healthcare, slaver.

                SENIORS VOTE. PORE FOLK DO NOT

                THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, for my first OPPORTUNITY here to expose the TOTAL MORAL BANKRUPYCY of (some) on the religious right, a minority of them. The Christian Taliban.

                Bless you, slaver.

                Left – Right = Zero
                Libertarians REJECT both … for 50 years
                Now, so does a growing majority of Americans.
                Your time has expired … and now following the path of dinosaurs and the dodo bird.

                Anything else?

                1. 1. I’m an atheist.
                  2. People on Medicare aren’t bums. People on Medicaid are. Medicare isn’t free money, stupid. Screw Medicaid.

              2. I don’t click on your links.

              3. The Hyde Amendment does not apply to states. Idiot. Medi-Cal pays for abortions.

                1. The Hyde Amendment does not apply to states. Idiot. Medi-Cal pays for abortions.THN ITP;S NOT MEDICAID. (SNORT)

                  1. I didn’t say it was. Idiot.

              4. So if PP makes a ton of money on abortions, then I don’t see why they need the Medicaid funding. How about they provide birth control for free and then overcharge the abortion sluts to make up for the loss?

                Also, I thought PP claimed abortion is a very small part of what it does, but as you’ve explained, that’s how they make all their money. Lol.

                Anyway, the issue is irrelevant. It is morally wrong for the government to give PP money whether or not the money funds abortion. Medicaid is theft and should be repealed.

                1. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES

                  So if PP makes a ton of money on abortions, then I don’t see why they need the Medicaid funding.

                  They don’t need it. They do it because they are medical professionals, with compassion ,… not selfish pig conservatards who SNEER at the word “humanitarian”

                  How about they provide birth control for free and then overcharge the abortion sluts to make up for the loss?

                  THEIR CHOICE, SLAVER (vomit)

                  Also, I thought PP claimed abortion is a very small part of what it does,

                  PROCEDURES NOT DOLLARS, GOOBER

                  but as you’ve explained, that’s how they make all their money. Lol.

                  ANOTHER FUCKUP Lemme ‘splain it for you Lucy

                  Imagine a surgical clinic on a slow day. They do one quadruple bypass surgery. and set four broken legs. The bypass was 20% of their procedures,

                  So YOU then ASS-ume that it’s 20% of their revenues.

                  Conservards

                  1. How compassionate of PP to take my money! Lol. Moron. It shouldn’t be “their choice” to receive Medicaid money. Defund them, especially since “they don’t need it.”

                    Also, providing abortions isn’t “compassion.” PP was founded on the premise of exterminating the black population, btw.

                    So abortion is 2% of PP’s procedures but 90% of their revenue? It’s nice that they get rich off of killing people.

                    1. COWARDLY DIVERION

                      AGAIN

                  2. What’s a conservard, libtard?

              5. As the great libertarian scholarly genius Ron Paul, a medical doctor, has pointed out, the poor were well taken care of before Medicaid and would be well taken care of if we get rid of Medicaid tomorrow.

                1. Vince Smith|12.13.18 @ 1:36AM|#
                  As the great libertarian scholarly genius Ron Paul, a medical doctor, has pointed out,

                  He’s a fucking slaver, like you.
                  And THRIVES on suckers like you

                  the poor were well taken care of before Medicaid and would be well taken care of if we get rid of Medicaid tomorrow.

                  Same fuckup as you .. but a doctor should not be so stupid. THE ENTIRE CHARITY INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DESTROYED BY MEDICAID BECAUSE … WAIT FOR IT … IT WAS NO LONGER USED!

                  DO YOU AND RON EVER WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO … BUGGY WHIPS? lol

                  Did you swallow his crazy bullshit to “Repeal the income tax … replace it with nothing … run 99% of the federal government with FICA taxes?”

                  He never mentions the FICA part , because even many of his dumbass cult would smell the steaming bullshit. (Plus, 45% of Medicvare is subsidized by the INCOME TAX HE’D REPEAL … BUT YOU ARE NOT A TOTAL GOOBER!!)

                  Do you support the FUCKHEAD bragging that he sponsored a bill tat would have forbidden SCOTUS from even CONSIDERING any challenges to DOMA?

                  I KNEW YOU’D BE A PAULISTA CULTIST! Fucking fags would be the first group DENIED the defense of constitutional rights …. since ‘dem fucking nigger slaves! (/sarc)

                  Show us MORE, slaver!!!

                  1. “Repeal the income tax and replace it with nothing” sounds libertarian to me.

                    1. Did you swallow his crazy bullshit to “Repeal the income tax … replace it with nothing … run 99% of the federal government with FICA taxes?”

                      He never mentions the FICA part , because even many of his dumbass cult would smell the steaming bullshit. (Plus, 45% of Medicare is subsidized by the INCOME TAX HE’D REPEAL … BUT YOU ARE NOT A TOTAL GOOBER!!)

                    2. He would cut government. The government would run on tariffs as it did before 1913.

                  2. Medicaid = theft.

                    1. ANOTHER cowardly diversion … after SIX fuckups on the issue and facts

                      STILL STALKING ME

                    2. Jesus Hihn, just go away! You’re such a fucking nut. I don’t want the government stealing my money to pay for shit I don’t want to pay for. With all my new found pocket money I would in fact donate to charities that supported some things the welfare state currently does… But I’d donate to ones that had a mission I could agree with. For instance, places that help actual helpable people get back on their feet and into the work force.

                      You’re not even remotely libertarian on soooo many things. I’m not either on some stuff, like open borders, but at least I’m not a bleeding heart tool like you, I actually have common sense.

  33. After the CDC is defunded, I’ll be eager to listen to whining from surviving members of God’s Own Prohibitionists about how much better things will be after Planned Parenthood is also defunded. The Supreme Court could strike down all licensing of doctors and dentists as an even better alternative. And since the Gee-Oh-Pee insists on an Amendment to force coathanger abortions on women, why not add the Atlas Shrugged Amendment to the LP platform: “And Congress shall make no laws restricting or abridging the freedom of production and trade?”

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