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'We Will Close the Border Permanently If Need Be': Reason Roundup

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screenshot from video at The Guardian

"We will close the Border permanently if need be," President Donald Trump tweeted Monday morning after a tumultuous weekend at the U.S.–Mexico border near Tijuana and San Diego. On Sunday, Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) agents used teargas on Central American migrants seeking asylum in the United States—a toxic cloud that wafted far past the minority of rioters and into a peaceful protest that included young children.

For hours after that, CBP shut down the busy port of entry to all legal foot and motor traffic. The port is normally privy to about 100,000 people a day, notes The Washington Post.

screenshot from CBP video

It's also where asylum-seekers can have their claims processed. The limit for processing claims there is 100 per day, though lately CBP has fallen far short of that. Saturday and Sunday saw just 40 people per day admitted to submit asylum claims.

Meanwhile in Tijuana, thousands of asylum-seeking migrants are camped out in a large and cramped sports arena, part of a caravan that started in Honduras. In the past two weeks, say Mexican authorities, their numbers have grown to more than 8,000—almost entirely in Tijuana and Mexicali. The mayor of Tijuana has declared it a humanitarian crisis.

During yesterday's chaos, "thousands stayed behind the sports complex," notes the Post. But a small portion held a protest against the slow pace of the asylum claim process. Among the protesters, "the majority of the group approached and gathered at the fence peacefully." But as protesters approached a pedesterian crossing,

Mexican police in riot gear blocked their way, and a scuffle broke out between police and a couple of dozen protesters. After the protesters were rebuffed, the situation grew more chaotic, with some migrants running across a dry canal and others trying to cross in different places.

CNN reports that about 500 people "overwhelmed police blockades"; 39 people were arrested by Tijuana police. As some ran toward the border, CBP agents fired tear gas and rubber bullets.

Here is CBP's statement: "Today, several migrants threw projectiles at the agents in San Diego. Border Patrol agents deployed tear gas to dispel the group because of the risk to agents' safety. Several agents were hit by the projectiles. The situation is evolving and a statement is forthcoming."

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  1. We will close the Border permanently if need be…

    Like they did to that missionary in India?

    1. Hello.

      What’s the problem? I don’t see a problem. Do you see a problem? Let them in! Let them play! Let them in!

      https://dailym.ai/2SefuA6

      Trump has to hold the line here.

      1. Indeed. I like that Trump is the bad guy, not the mob trying to infiltrate the border.

        If they refuse to abide by law, keep them the fuck out.

        1. There’s no question they will attempt to emotionally manipulate. Just look at the picture posted here.

          But don’t put the ones of the punks committing crimes.

        2. Yup.

          Try going and staying Japan without proper immigration or temporay visa paperwork. They will kick you the fuck out of Japan.

          1. “Try going and staying Japan without proper immigration or temporay visa paperwork. They will kick you the fuck out of Japan.”

            Try forcibly entering any international border. I promise you, the US media won’t be there to cry for you and engage in a wide spread propaganda blitz. No, no one will feel an inkling of sympathy while your neck is unceremoniously crushed into the pavement.

  2. Thanks for doing Roundup so well, Elizabeth!

  3. Jesse Kelly and Alex Jones could not be reached for comment.

    Court Again Rules That Cable Giants Can’t Weaponize the First Amendment
    Charter has been using the argument that their First Amendment rights are being violated as it fights off state lawsuits for its poor service. “It recently tried to use the First Amendment card again in a legal battle with Byron Allen’s Entertainment Studios Networks (ESN), which recently accused Charter of violating the Civil Rights Act of 1866 by refusing to carry TV channels run by the African-American-owned ESN,” reports Techdirt. “While Charter tried to have the suit dismissed by claiming that the First Amendment prohibits such claims because an ISP enjoys ‘editorial discretion,’ the ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit didn’t agree.” From the report:

    1. Twitter Permanently Bans Feminist For Writing That ‘Men Aren’t Women’
      What is insane to me, though, is that while Twitter knowingly permits graphic pornography and death threats on the platform (I have reported countless violent threats, the vast majority of which have gone unaddressed), they won’t allow me to state very basic facts, such as ‘men aren’t women.’ This is hardly an abhorrent thing to say, nor should it be considered ‘hateful’ to ask questions about the notion that people can change sex, or ask for explanations about transgender ideology. These are now, like it or not, public debates ? debates that are impacting people’s lives, as legislation and policy are being imposed based on gender identity ideology?

      1. One of the many great things about never using Twitter is that I never have to worry about being banned.

        1. OTOH, you are in effect already banned.

          1. Twitter is a fucking cancer on society. All they are are leeches off the work of others.

            1. It’s societal cancer all the way down!

        2. I am permanently banned, but Twitter doesn’t know it yet.

      2. That feminist should know that the Party does not allow ideological dissent.

      1. THIS IS ALREADY AN OFFICIAL LINK.

      2. I love calling old Bruce Jenner To watch the Lefties freak out.

        Its like if Gillespie wanted us to call him Nicholas, I would still call him Nick.

        1. I’ll call him Caitlin. A name you can change. Sex (or gender) not so much, eunuch or no.

          1. This.

          2. This.

  4. The port is normally privy to about 100,000 people a day

    I was wondering where those folks were doing their business.

    1. Just as long as they aren’t soiling American soil.

      1. They’re out to piss Trump off!

        1. Sad that the media is pooh poohing the issue.

    1. I’m healed!

      Finally a rehab facility that we can all support.

    2. The healing power of titties. Is there anything they can.t do?

      1. Just a bunch of stuff you wouldn’t want them to do anyway.

    3. Awesome news from Mexico. Hookers and blow save lives!

    4. Herpes lives matter.

  5. “Among the protesters, “the majority of the group approached and gathered at the fence peacefully.” But as protesters approached a pedesterian crossing,”

    For some people, No doesn’t mean No. It’s more of a soft maybe.

    1. I love Reason pulling the whole “majority non-violent” nonsense/

      You know what the majority of is ALSO non-violent?

      Cops.

      Don’t see them getting this benefit of the doubt about their transgressions.

      Nor should they receive it.

      1. It’s incredible the lengths they will go.

        Here’s the problem and Reason doesn’t seem to accept this: We don’t need low-skilled workers here in North America. It puts downward pressure on the working poor.

        You wanna let them in on compassionate grounds? Fine. But don’t use the economic angle because it’s dubious.

        1. Or in the least, they could stop being so disingenuous in their coverage. If our modern media were covering the Blitzkrieg they’d refer to the Nazi Panzer advance as “Ambitious Educated Immigrants.”

        2. Nearly all of these immigrants are not remotely qualified to receive US political asylum. They are poor not political enemies of their various home nations.

          The media does know this or should know this yet continues with the heart-string propaganda blitz that is not working against most Americans.

  6. Does this amount to an illegal monopoly by Apple? That’s what the U.S. Supreme Court will consider today

    Does that amount to an illegal monopoly by the U.S. Supreme Court?

    1. An excellent point, Rich. The government monopolies are pretty monopolistic.

    2. No, on its face, it is not a monopoly. The fact that I-phone geeks don’t want to consider another brand of hardware does not mean they are limited to only one provider.

      1. I would love another choice. Someone just has to match the security. Android ain’t doing it.

    1. +1000

    2. That’s what I never grasped.

      A fervent Marxist killed JFK. So, of course, it was the fault of the fucking Right? How?

      1. The right wing miasma surrounding Dallas hijacked Oswald’s brain.

      2. I think you DID grasp it.

    3. Lets also not forget that Mr Lane was also counsel for the People’s Temple. He picked winners.

      He was IN Jonestown during the Ryan visit that led to the whole mass suicide unpleasantness.

  7. “The hope is that the next attorney general has drug policy ideas that are not straight out of the 1980s,” said Drug Policy Alliance Director Michael Collins.

    High on hope.

    1. Hope is dope.

  8. Twitter has added “deadnaming” to its list of unforgivable sins.

    I would change my name at random intervals just to get people in trouble.

    1. Can we go through Twitter to look for tweets about Prince’s work when he changed his name and report all of them for this sin? I’m sure there were retrospective’s of his work and none of them used the symbol for the work in that time frame.

      Dead naming mother fuckers.

    2. I want to get everyone in trouble who has referred to Trump as Drumpf. Can we get Oliver banned from Twitter for using the wrong name?

    3. I want to get everyone in trouble who has referred to Trump as Drumpf. Can we get Oliver banned from Twitter for using the wrong name?

  9. Trumps popularity just went up! Enforcing those immigration laws against all the propagandists in the media.

    USA USA USA

  10. Democrats whine endlessly about how “democracy has failed” when they lose elections, but THIS RIGHT HERE is democracy failing hard.

    You can vote for border security all you want, but it doesn’t count for a hill of beans when the Judge-Emperor clears his throat.

    @nytimes
    Breaking News: A judge ordered the Trump administration to resume accepting asylum claims from migrants no matter where or how they entered the United States https://nyti.ms/2DKVqlu

    1. This is where “And how many divisions does he have?” is a valid question.

    1. “It’s hard to miss the repeated notion in Tolkien that some races are just worse than others, or that some peoples are just worse than others,” Duncan says. “And this seems to me?in the long term, if you embrace this too much?it has dire consequences for yourself and for society.”

      “And don’t even get me started on Tolkien’s treatment of women and animals!”

      1. There is not a single gay or transgender character in the story!

        Well, ok, there are the elves….

        1. Sam Weis Crammee?

        2. The dwarves. The women grow beards.

    2. Of course.

      The Last Ringbearer demonstrates that convincingly.

  11. The mayor of Tijuana has declared it a humanitarian crisis.

    One that they would understandably very much like to shift to the other side of the border.

    1. The Mexicans are a bunch of racists after all. Oh wait, thats Americans.

    2. But I thought these were all doctors and lawyers and future journalists. Dreamers! See, there’s even a picture of a woman and her 2 children in the roundup.

  12. Nothing from Reason about Russia’s unlawful seizure of 3 Ukrainian boats near the Sea of Azov?

    An emergency UN Security Council meeting is scheduled for today. Ukraine is considering martial law to ready the country for further Russian agression.

    (Sorry unable to post links at this time)

    1. And, while tragic, still not a US concern. Much as the media wants us involved.

      1. Its something that does concern the USA and international peace but as you say, not something the USA get involved in no matter how much the media has a war boner.

    2. Two days before the Ecumenical Patriarch is expected to grant the Ukrainian Orthodox Church autocephality. Russia warned of violence if that happened?

      Ukraine has a large number of ROC parishes and the loss of Ukraine would knock the ROC down from largest EO church to about 4th largest (the Romanian Orthodox Church would become the largest) and be a serious blow to Russian propaganda claims to Ukraine.

  13. In the lawsuit, Fincher argues the deputies should have known the drug test could result in false positives, that it would have been unlikely for someone to leave a large bag of meth in plain sight and that the county improperly trained them how to identify illicit drugs.

    Indeed. Everybody knows only *crack* is disguised as blue cotton candy.

    1. I always strive not to have anything blue in my car when going on long trips.

    2. Everyone who ever watched Breaking Bad knows that real meth is blue!

  14. Strong breeze carried US-launched teargas deeper into Mexico. Migrants ran for hundreds of yards before escaping the cloud. #migrantcaravan
    ? Chris Sherman (@chrisshermanAP) November 25, 2018

    You know who else was the victim of a gas attack?

    1. Hondurans in Honduras?

      Hondurans in Mexico?

      French in France?

      Antifa in Portland?

    2. 100 yards?

      /NFL and CFL GM’s ears perk up.

      1. Good try Rufus, but nobody cares about the CFL. The fact that you picked the most “meh” color for your cup should tell you everything you need to know about the CFL.

        1. They felt the Beige Cup was too “out there”

        2. The CFL moonlights as a paint company also to make the rent.

          But….

          Our balls are bigger.

          1. Yes, moose balls are big. But that’s stretching the definition of “our.”

            1. God damn you are a sad try too hard loser.

        3. At least they no longer have the Rough Riders playing the Roughriders.

          1. lol.

            Nine teams. Two had the same name.

            Soooo Canadian.

      2. “look at that monkey run”

    3. My wife on Taco Tuesday?

    4. The people that shared a car with me yesterday?

    5. Everyone since elevators were invented?

    6. Slim Pickens and the railroad crew?

    7. Me. I’m a delicate petite fragile flower of a snowflake and flatulent emissions violate my olfactory senses.

    8. You know who else was the victim of a gas attack?

      Other than the majority of migrants who are innocent?
      Oh …. Tijuana residents?

  15. Migrants ran for hundreds of yards before escaping the cloud.

    Does federal law enforcement even register their collateral damage if it happens in another country?

  16. Truth? We have immigration to protect:

    Hoaxed: The ‘Illegal Alien Mom with Barefoot Kids’ Photo was a Setup ? Another Staged #FakeNews ProductionAfter further review, yesterday’s ‘horrific’ picture of a woman with barefoot children running from the US border wall was a hoax. In the background of the picture a group of men are posing for one camera man and another is running towards another camera man. In other areas, people are just standing around. The woman with the children was just a photo-op:

  17. Looks like final election tally is 116th Congress will be Democrats 233 and GOP 202. Current 115th Congress had 237 GOP and 196 Democrats.

    US Senate will be 53 GOP to 47 Democrat.

    Governors will be 27 GOP to 23 Democrats.

    1. In other words, the #BlueTsunami happened just like I said it would. It’s particularly impressive when you factor in all the close races in which the Republicans cheated their way to “victory,” like Florida Senate and Georgia Governor.

      #LibertariansForPelosi

      1. He failed to list all the staehouses that flipped. Or that the governors were a major flip.
        Or the combined popular House vote. where Democrats had a record-shattering 8% margin.
        DEEP trouble in the three states that gave Trump the Electoral win (by a tiny 38,000 voters combined)

    2. Add in Trump’s SCOTUS replacement of Scalia, Kennedy, soon to be Thomas, RBG, and possibly Breyer.

      MAGA!

      1. RBG is in fantastic health and will easily serve until the next Democratic President in 2021. Any speculation that she’s unhealthy is based on pure sexism, just like speculation on Hillary Clinton’s health in 2016.

        #LibertariansForRBG
        #SaveRoe
        #OverturnHeller

        1. RBG is a lich. She will serve until someone destroys her phylactery.

          1. Good luck with that. Her phylactery has been split into a million pieces and each piece was placed in the heart of a different dedicated progressive.

  18. Trump is right. Foreigners seeking to immigrate by FORCE should be kept out of the U.S. permanently. Whatever the desires of the “caravan” of illegals are, they need to be executed according to U.S. law, NOT according to immigrant desires. Also, has ANYONE thought even a little about where these immigrants will live, will they be able to get jobs, etc., etc. No, no one has. The libs go 100% on what their spleens tell them, which will end in disaster, which disaster libs will blame on others.

    1. He’s absolutely 100% correct.

      Some of those idiots had rocks at the ready.

    2. Also, has ANYONE thought even a little about where these immigrants will live, will they be able to get jobs, etc., etc. No, no one has.

      Why should someone have to prove these things before having the opportunity to migrate here?

      You and I are free right now to migrate to any state without having to prove to any authority that we have a job or housing lined up ahead of time. EVEN THOUGH it may mean that we don’t get jobs and become welfare leeches on the state government.

      If you say “well we’re citizens so that’s different”, it just begs the question why citizenship should be a prerequisite for migration.

      1. Why should someone have to prove these things before having the opportunity to migrate here?

        Because the people who live here like it that way and have a right to make the rules by virtue of the US being a soveriegn state. If you want to change the law to let anyone who wants to come, good luck. But that is a policy and legal debate that you have yet to win. Until you do, you can’t complain about the government enforcing the law that its voters created.

        1. “The mob is always right”
          Isn’t that right John?

          1. No. People have soveriegnty. And legally enacted laws are valid unless you have a really compellling moral case that they are not. And sorry, but the US government exercising the same rights that every government in the history of civilization has exercised is something you don’t like but it is not immoral such that a rightfully enacted law making it so is invalid.

            You can’t win this argument and wouldn’t know how even if you could. So you just pretend everyone who disagrees with you holds a morally illegitimate position thus relieving you of the duty to win on the merits. S

            1. Just a long-winded way of saying “the mob is always right”

              1. Thank God the moral arbiter of truth and justice jeff is here to point us all in the right direction. Thank you St. jeff, the most righteous among us.

          2. What John said.

      2. In Canada, you have to demonstrate why we should let you in.

        It’s not easy to gain entry here. Dalmia would lose her shit.

        Of course, Trudeau that dope is doing his best to make it all ‘feely’ immigration when it suits him.

        Clown. Such a clown.

        1. In Canada, you have to demonstrate why we should let you in.

          Why should that be the case?

          I am sure you have the legal permission to drive from Alberta to Saskatchewan without having to prove to any authority in Saskatchewan why they should let you in.

          Why shouldn’t it be the same for migration across international borders?

          1. Jeff,

            Sovereign states… Laws…

            Back in the old days, you had to walk across the Baring Straits to get here. Things have changed.

          2. I am sure you have the legal permission to drive from Alberta to Saskatchewan without having to prove to any authority in Saskatchewan why they should let you in.

            Why shouldn’t it be the same for migration across international borders?

            Because citizens have rights that non-citizens do not have.

            Because citizens are footing the bills while non-citizens are not.

            1. Because citizens have rights that non-citizens do not have.

              Why should migration be one of those?

              Because citizens are footing the bills while non-citizens are not.

              Red herring. Just coming here, in and of itself, doesn’t cost anyone anything.

              1. Why should migration be one of those?

                Why should it not be? It’s been that way, you know, for the entire existence of humanity. If you have a good reason why it should not be, outside of feelings, feel free to make your case.

                Red herring. Just coming here, in and of itself, doesn’t cost anyone anything.

                Are they levitating and never touching a road or sidewalk? Never using a public water fountain or restroom?

                The “public” who paid for it, and thus owns it, ain’t the illegal.

          3. Is this a serious question?

            Not between citizens. It’s for non-citizens. If you’re looking for a Visa Canada asks why and what you’re bringing to the table.

            It changes with refugees which is why that term is being changed around and manipulated it seems.

            Jesus, NO country OWES anyone anything. It’s a privilege; not a right to come into a country. Follow their rules and laws or else….fuck off.

            1. Yes it’s a serious question. It gets at the heart of the disagreement. Why should migration be a right reserved only to citizens? “Because it’s always been that way” or “Because everybody else does it” aren’t satisfactory answers.

              1. No, they are fine answers.

                YOU want to change stuff but don’t want to be bothered to explain why it should be done outside of you thinking borders are mean or some such nonsense.

                Literally no country in the history of mankind has ever allowed it and none will in the future and none do now.

                1. Just like communists jeff wants to act like his moral utopia is the only legitimate way of life so he preens and proons and prowns and writes sternly worded Epistles to persuade the non-believers to convert to his religion.

                  Here is why I do not want them here. Because I do not. I do not want any poor person in the world who wants to move to America, have babies (who then become American citizens), and put political pressure on those of us with children and families and vested interests in this country to accede to their political demands… to come here. I do not see their utility, we have enough poor undereducated people. No thanks, do not need more. Case closed. Go back to El Salvador or Ethiopia or whever they are from.

        2. The US should let all the migrants in and meet them at the southern border with luxury buses to transport them to the northern border so they can get asylum in Canada.

          Let’s get some Canadian skin in the game!

          1. There’s a treaty (the 2004 Canada?United States Safe Third Country Agreement) that bans that.

            1. Is Mexico a signatory to that agreement? If so, they seem to be in violation.

        3. Not necessarily against your argument, but it is not, and has never been difficult to get into Canada . Went a bunch prior to them requiring passport, and a bunch after. Always easy peezy.

          An example as to just how easy it was long ago, we went there because the drinking age was lower than it was in PA. Driving through customs they asked “any weapons or drugs”…”no”…”what about that knife I can see in the center cup holder”…”it’s for opening boxes at work”…”what are you planning to do while in the country”…”we are staying for the weekend and heading to the bars”…”Ok enjoy your stay”.

          Nowadays when we go we have to show passports, but otherwise I haven’t had any trouble, I just don’t leave knives in plain sight like idiot 19 year old me. Never more than a 2-3 minute encounter to this day.

          1. Pretty much. My daughter and her husband immigrated to Canada from Venezuela because it was easier and faster than to immigrate to the US.

            1. Canada is a lot less regulatory than the US it sounds but I would need specifics.

              There are all kinds of ways to get in including paying. I know someone from Brazil who paid Quebec 180k to come in but she was an engineer and her husband a chef. So…of course it’s easy.

              But if you’re someone who wants to come ‘just because’ they won’t let you.

              As for the border, well, the same in reverse. I remember when it was just a couple of questions and off you went. Now we have to produce passports (free trade my ass) but I will get a Nexus card now.

              I do know some Americans though – freelance workers for example – who have a hard time coming in.

      3. The United States is a union of republics. In a republic, the people are sovereign. Citizenship means membership in the sovereign people. The Constitution is a treaty between those republics that permits free migration of citizens of the constituent republics. Aliens are not members of the sovereign people and subject to the immigration laws passed by the people’s representatives.

        These are basic principles of US civics. Leaving them unstated is not “begging the question”.

        1. Okay then. By your understanding, then, can the sovereign people ever be wrong? If so, who goes about telling the citizens that they are wrong?

      4. Why should someone have to prove these things before having the opportunity to migrate here?

        To not be a drain on us?

        Like it or not, immigration and charity aren’t the same thing.

      5. jeff with the feelz.

        Your ideology has about as much reality as Pokemon.

    3. “they need to be executed according to U.S. law,”

      CGN, I like the cut of your jib.

    4. Too bad you have no clue what the law actually is.
      Do you know the ONLY way to apply for asylum is inside the US?
      Contards rage and fume, as badly as progtards. And as dumb.
      But nice rant.

  19. The term “deadnaming” means to use a transgender person’s former name instead of their new, chosen name.

    What about stuff like “the artist formerly known as Prince”?

    1. The woman formerly known as Richard.

      1. You guys have something to tell us?

      2. She Who Must Be Obeyed.

    2. So what is it called when you tell someone “you are dead to me”?

        1. Someone will need to Walk us through the Deadsplaining.

          1. Yeah, hopefully they won’t get stuck with shitty writing after the 3rd season too.

            1. I hate that they fucked up that comic franchise.

              1. “here’s an idea, let’s have deaf character survive six years”

        2. So what is it called then when you have to explain Jerry Garcia to someone?

          1. Getting REALLY high.

    3. What about stuff like the former 2016 presidential loser known as Hillary Rodham Clinton ?

      1. What abut the nearly 10 million who voted against Trump?
        Plus his record setting “anti” vote (voted against Hillary, not for Trump)
        On the facts, Hillary may have been the only Dem he could (kinda) beat, By 38,000 votes.

    4. Ricardo Klement would approve.

  20. “How Wildfires Are Making Some California Homes Uninsurable”
    https://www.ziviews.com/2018/11
    /how-wildfires-are-making-some.html

    So what if you can’t get insurance? CA will force those living where fires don’t happen to subsidize your choice to live where your house is likely to burn down:
    ” If all else fails, they can get insurance from California’s property insurer of last resort, the FAIR Plan.
    […]
    FAIR Plan is operated by the industry ? without taxpayer dollars ? and is required to charge rates that reflect risk, so it is not some kind of bargain.”
    Yep, no taxpayer dollars, just dollars from every other purchaser of fire insurance.

    1. required to charge rates that reflect risk

      How *refreshing*!

      1. BTW, the article mentions that you can get insurance for just about any location, but it might become ‘unaffordable’, so that mandated (and subsidized) rate does NOT reflect the risk. It reflects the companies’ possible losses if they can’t sell insurance in CA.

        1. The facts on the ground are that many homeowners, if not most, were severely underinsured The ones in the North (the camp fire) I have several friends near there.

    2. If you live in the woods, occasionally the woods are going to burn down and take your house with it. Next thing you know, you are going to tell me living on the beach in Florida means you will lose your house to a hurricane every once in a while. That is just racism. Straight up.

      1. My dad lives in the Colorado Rockies. Because of wildfires in the area he had to do a bunch of work to keep his insurance. He cleared all the trees within a certain distance from the home among other things. Seems reasonable to me.

        1. Yeah but cutting down trees is violating nature and offending Gaia or something. Yeah, cutting a fire break around your house sounds pretty reasonable to me too. But, you and I like this thing called civilization and appearently the retards in California haven’t figured out to do the same. I swear to God some of them would end up back living in caves if left to their own devices.

          1. many of us who were raised in the forest like having the trees around us but then thats a risk we accept just like people in tornado ally or Earthquake country or hurricane zones. that said i do maintain the undergrowth. look at the pictures of Paradise the Trees are still there but the undergrowth and the houses that the undergrowth came in contact with is what was destroyed.

            1. It is the undergrowth that is the problem. It takes a lot to set a big tree on fire. The only way the big trees burn is if the undergrowth gets high and creates enough fire to ignite them. Cut the undergrowth and the trees are very unlikely to burn.

              It all comes down to managing the forrest. And sadly, the environmental movement is too stupid and fanatical to allow that to happen.

              1. In very dry forests like this, the fire races to the top, then jumps across the tops of trees. The underbrush is irrelevant. So you’re blowing smoke again. Just as crazy as Trump’s psychotic lie about raking the forests.

          2. It’s California, so I wouldn’t be surprised if some commune was living “off the grid” in a cave.

  21. Something I was kinda wondering about: okay, so according to the Left the migrants in the “caravan” are seeking asylum from violent oppression. That part I understand. But if that’s the case, why is the Left insisting they come to the U.S.?

    According to the Left, this is the worst fucking country on the planet. In two short years the Evil Drumpf has transformed the country into a combination of Nazi Germany and The Handmaid’s Tale. The government is racist top to bottom; cops hunt down and shoot minorities just for the fun of it.

    According to the Left, you could hardly call this country civilized; no free healthcare, no free Harvard education. FFS this country lets people own guns! And we haven’t even shut down Fox News!

    Jesus Tapdancing Christ, the road signs are in English! The very language of oppression!

    So why don’t the migrants go someplace decent and civilized, like the Socialist Worker’s Utopia that is Cuba?

    1. We only have 2 gender options on most government forms! We’re like, bigots and stuff…

      1. It is like the Holocoust. Don’t you remember that scene in Schindler’s List where the Nazis threw tear gas on the Jews as they tried to get into Germany?

      2. There ARE only two gender options, What confuses you on that?

    2. Because the migrants are going to vote in the Left, who will fix the place once and for all!

      Must I explain *everything*?

    3. I think you’re on to something. Maybe we can spread rumors in the caravan that the people who are being accepted for “asylum” are really being sent to the police academy for target practice.

    4. So why don’t the migrants go someplace decent and civilized, like the Socialist Worker’s Utopia that is Cuba?

      Several reasons. But mostly because you’re bat-shit crazy.

  22. People are rioting in France in large numbers over taxes and regulation and demanding actual freedom. You would think that a Libertarian magazine would find that to be a big deal and be cheering it on. And don’t tell me reason doesn’t cover foreign stories because they found the time a couple of weeks ago to do an entire story on a mayor in Africa saying bad things about gays.

    Reason’s response to France is silence and will likely be followed by some variation of “oh my God the peasents are revolting” and “but LePen”. Reason loves the idea of freedom but it doesn’t seem to interested in actually obtaining it in reality.

    1. When the credit card companies who don’t want to do business with gun stores and the social media companies who don’t want to ‘platform’ any non leftist finally get together and implement full economic sanctions against Reason’s political enemies, Reason will stay silent. Until they are eaten last, that is.

    2. I haven’t dug into the story yet, but as I understand it the taxes being protested are fuel taxes imposed because something something global warming. If so, the peasants are climate change deniers! Heresy!

      1. Burn the witc… Deniers!

      2. Burn the witc… Deniers!

      3. And the protestors are mostly unfashionable people from the country. A bunch of hicks are rioting because they refuse to slide into poverty to save the world from global warming. It is just such a surprise Reason will side with the government here.

        1. LOL, I wonder what the French word for “Deplorables” is? We’ll probably hear it on CNN, soon enough.

          1. “Les Deps”

            1. That’s also what they call Johnny Depp’s family.

              “Oh no, Les Deps are here.”

              1. Stop trying so hard, you aren’t funny.

          2. Les Miserables

        2. Socialism….take from the working class to allow the socialist elites to fly their private jets on carbon credits.

    3. “We’re here because we’ve had enough,” said Joel Mouilleseaux, 24, a student. “It’s always the same people who have to pay for the madness of others. We have to work to pay, work some more to pay some more and it’s been like that for years. It’s been like it since I was born, president after president, and now we’re saying, that’s enough.”
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      He said he had voted for an independent candidate at the last election. “Left, right, for me it’s the same, always the same. I want to be heard, listened to and have a response.”

      Source

      Someone actually gets it! I agree John. Would be good to see more coverage here.

      “Left, right, for me it’s the same, always the same.”
      – Michel Le Hihn (I couldn’t resist)

      1. When is the last time you saw people protest and riot because they actually wanted less government and freedom? i can’t think of any examples since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Can you? This is big deal.

        1. When is the last time you saw people protest and riot because they actually wanted less government and freedom?

          (lol) depends what they’re escaping from … as you then admit

          i can’t think of any examples since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Can you?

          Several.

      2. “La gauche moins la droite est ?gal ? z?ro. Oui, oui, mes brutes!!”

        1. Visage gras en r?ponse ? l’intimidation et ? l’agression”

          I have access to Google translate too, Chipper,

    4. “We’re here because we’ve had enough,” said Joel Mouilleseaux, 24, a student. “It’s always the same people who have to pay for the madness of others. We have to work to pay, work some more to pay some more and it’s been like that for years. It’s been like it since I was born, president after president, and now we’re saying, that’s enough.”
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      He said he had voted for an independent candidate at the last election. “Left, right, for me it’s the same, always the same. I want to be heard, listened to and have a response.”

      Source

      Someone actually gets it! I agree John. Would be good to see more coverage here.

      “Left, right, for me it’s the same, always the same.”
      – Michel Le Hihn (I couldn’t resist)

    5. Wow, that’s a lot to read into some particular topic not showing up on Reason’s blog.

      1. Reason has not said a word about these protest. Saying that reason has greated them with silence is not reading anything into the topic. It is stating a fact.

    6. Cholos, weed, gay butt sex, and Islamic terrorism for all, everyone else can pretty much go fuck themselves.

      That’s Reason’s definition of freedom.

      1. Did you see Welch bemoaning people’s lack of trust in government last week? Nothing says “libertarian” like wanting people to have faith and trust in government.

        1. “I’m a liberal.”

          -Matt “Welchie Boy” Welch

        2. Losing faith in government is good for the Dark Ones because people who lack trust and faith in government demand more government. People who have trust and faith in government are more self-reliant and need smaller governments.

    7. Reason loves the idea of freedom but it doesn’t seem to interested in actually obtaining it in reality.

      So they represent libertarians/Libertarians accurately then.

    8. I am pretty sure the French just like to riot and protest pretty much everything. It is a national passtime. I would not read too much into this, unions in France were protesting the government trying curb cut jobs and perks not even a few months ago.

  23. “If you want an iPhone app, you have to get from Apple’s own digital store. Does this amount to an illegal monopoly by Apple?”

    If I want to watch a Giants home game, I have to go to (whatever the field is called this year). Does this amount to an illegal monopoly by the Giants?

    1. Exactly what Aps is Apple refusing to sell? If Apple wants to make a habit of not selling Aps to IPhone users, I am quite sure Android will happily sell those aps and many others and take Apple’s customers who want them. Whatever you think of monopolies and the need for the government to prevent them, this is not a monopoly.

      1. Apple users can only install Apple approved apps from the Apple store on their devices. If you want apps that aren’t Apple approved then you need to ditch your iPhone for an LG or something.

        1. Exactly. They all do the same thing. If it ever gets to the point that using an IPhone means you can’t use aps that you want, then no one will be using Iphones. Since last I looked Apple planned to stay in business, I doubt that will happen. If there are some aps you can’t get with Apple, well sometimes you have to make a choice. You can’t buy a GMC sportscare or a Rolls Royce Pickup. That doesn’t mean either of those companies have a monopoly.

          1. They all do the same thing.

            Not really. I could write an app at home and run it on an Android phone. Can’t do that with Apple devices. The OS won’t let you install it unless Apple approves it.

            1. Apple has never played well with others. And they have over the years payed an enormous price for that. The are one of the few companies in history or maybe the only company that managed to lose out to a competitor despite having a much superior product. Back in the early 1990s when PCs first took off, Apple was orders of magnatude better than anything Microsoft made. It wasn’t until Windows 95 that Microsoft even got in Apple’s league. Yet, Microsoft ended up dominating the entire market in the early 1990s. And the reason for that was Microsoft made sure its product interfaced with every other company’s products as well as possible and Apple was proprietary as hell and refused to let other company’s software run on its IOS. It was short sighted, greedy and stupid. But it is a culture that still exists in Apple despite the enormous amounts of money it has cost them.

              1. Maybe it’s a winning strategy. They are swimming in money after all. Because their devices don’t play well with others, that encourages people to go all Apple. TI know plenty of people who have all Apple devices. iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple TV, etc. I could never afford it, that shit is expensive. But those who can, do.

                1. Apple has persuaded people that it’s cool to be ignorant with respect to using technology – as long as you use Apple’s technology. It’s a pretty neat trick.

                2. Microsoft was swimming in more money back in the 1990s. Apple is swimming in money today because they invented the smart phone. I doubt they make much money off of their computers. I find that their smart phones do play well with others or at least do so a lot better than their computers ever did. But if that ever changes and it gets to the point that there are usful aps that you just can’t get on an I-Phone, the I-Phone will go the way of the buffalo. As it is, I find that the I-phone and the OS that runs it to be significantly worse than the original models. It seems that every update to the OS makes it less functional. Frankly, the only reason I haven’t ditched my I-phone is out of habit and becuase I don’t use it enough for the lack of functionality to bother me enough to change. It seems to me at least that the Android is the superior product.

              2. Sorry, but speaking as a developer, that is simply false.
                I can write apps in at least 4 different programming languages, at home, which I can install on my own iDevice.
                I only need Apple approval if I want to distribute the app.

                1. I only need Apple approval if I want to distribute the app.

                  But if you can’t distribute it, you can’t make money. Yeah, that doesn’t matter if you are just making your own private aps, but most people don’t do that. Most people can’t make their own aps and those who do do so to distribute it and make money.

                2. I can write apps in at least 4 different programming languages, at home, which I can install on my own iDevice.

                  I was working with bad info then.

                  1. I just looked it up and you need to register with Apple before they will let you install your own apps onto your own phone. It costs a hundred bucks, and you have to constantly renew. What a pain in the ass.

                    1. That’s either new or not correct.
                      An Apple Developer account is (was?) free.
                      But even that should be avoidable with React Native and Expo.
                      Yes, you need to pay to distribute and you need to distribute to make money.

                      I’m not trying to cheerlead too much over Apple, but they’re not really the hermetically sealed world they’re often portrayed as.
                      I’ll say this, though ? the QC provided by the Apple process to get on the App Store gives a better user experience and less malware. I’m currently on Android for phone, iPad for tablet. The difference is profound.

                    2. You can sign sideloaded apps for seven days without the $100 yearly agreement. This was a compromise starting a few years ago.

                      Or you can jailbreak, which Apple actively works to disable. It is a massive pain. The angle that I am much more interested in is device ownership. They prevent this cryptographically to a rediculus extent. On my device, which I purchased. Do I own the keys? Do I own the device? I scream, for I do not know.

                    3. The angle that I am much more interested in is device ownership.

                      Ditto. I have a few ideas for apps I might code, but why bother if I need permission from the company that made my phone to try them out? Pisses me off.

                3. I only need Apple approval if I want to distribute the app.

                  This is not exactly true? you can distribute apps without Apple approval with MDM/MAM. No jail break required.

  24. Early blizzard throughout the midwest shuts down major highways and causes the cancellation of hundreds of flights, royally screwing up the Thanksgiving return travel plans of millions.

    “Global warming”, ROFLMAO. Bundle up bitches, it’s going to be a long, brutal-ass winter!

    1. That’s why we in the reality-based community now say “climate change” rather than “global warming.”

      #ILoveScience
      #AlGoreWasRightAboutEverything

      1. It’s a depressing little war of words. If anything ‘changes’ they’re right and everyone else is a denier. It’s not just weather anymore, every odd day is justification for the persecution of the deniers. It’s ammunition to eventually control every ounce of energy on the planet. Don’t worry, real top men will be in charge.

        1. Bailey had one of the strangest articles reason has ever had last week. He links to some government study about how the US has warmed so much over so many years. The study lists a parade of effects like longer growing seasons, all of which are positive. There is a reason why more people live in Africa than in Alaska or Siberia. It is the same reason why there is more fauna in a square mile of the Amazon than in the entire Danali National Park, warm climates support more life. Yet, somehow the earth getting warmer is going to be the end of man.

          Yeah, that makes sense.

          1. You people are so fucking stupid it’s painful.

            1. No Tony, you are fucking stupid. You are an idiot hick who never learned how and never wanted to think rationally about anything and just believe whatever suits you and your political masters tell you to believe. The fact that the earth was once much warmer than today and that life thrived then is just not something you are capable of comprehending.

              There is really no hope for you. You enjoy being stupid way too much to ever change.

              1. Jesus Christ man stop it. I am feeling embarrassed for you.

            2. “Tony|11.26.18 @ 11:33AM|#

              You people are so fucking stupid it’s painful.”

              This is Tony admitting he knows he is wrong but doesn’t want to lose the long standing argument.

              1. If you don’t know that “It’s cold where I’m standing right now” is not a refutation of the science of climate change, you are beyond help. You don’t want to know facts. You simply aren’t interested. So what’s the fucking point?

            3. Still “believing” in science, you ignorant totalitarian?

            4. My masters the Dark Ones send you their greetings, Tony.

          2. Only to those who are too stupid to move away from their seashore villas (they are rich and they vote too).
            Or to those who build houses in pine forests, fail to clear the underbrush, and then are shocked when a fire burns them out.

            1. Africa is a lot bigger than Alaska and Siberia.

              1. Not by much. Siberia is enormous.

              2. And the population density in Africa is much greater.

        2. It’s a depressing little war of words. If anything ‘changes’ they’re right and everyone else is a denier. It’s not just weather anymore, every odd day is justification for the persecution of the deniers. It’s ammunition to eventually control every ounce of energy on the planet. Don’t worry, real top men will be in charge.

          I’d like to see somebody like Bailey at least state what, if anything, could disprove “climate change” to them. What can be shown to demonstrate that the theory simply is not the case? Because, as it stands, EVERYTHING “proves” it.

          Christianity has more internal falsifiability than climate change theory does.

    2. Next thing you know, there will be senators throwing snowballs to “disprove” global warming.

      Your joke, and your lack of understanding, is not new.

      1. “You dont understand!!!” He screeched

    3. “Global warming”, ROFLMAO. Bundle up bitches, it’s going to be a long, brutal-ass winter!

      So Trump is not the only one to fuck up the difference between climate and weather?
      Find a high school kid to explain it. Probably a senior.

      ROFLMAO

  25. Border Patrol: crowd confronts agents
    A group of about 100 people trying to illegally cross the border Sunday near the San Ysidro port of entry threw rocks and bottles at U.S. Border Patrol agents, who responded by using pepper spray and other means to force the crowd back into Mexico, federal officials said.

    1. Heh 2013. Do not remember this.

  26. When will our King fix his broken immigration laws?

  27. The brown menace certainly did not time its invasion well for Trump with respect to election 2018.

    1. I thought this whole thing was just a fignment of the evil right wing’s imagination that was dreamed up for the election? That was the talking point last week. These people shouldn’t even exist according to you.

      1. No it wasn’t. You’re a moron. There’s no point in talking to you. Not me, not your offspring, not characters on fucking Sesame Street. You are beyond help.

        1. I’m pretty sure John never reproduced.

          1. You’re egging on Tony now?!

            Holy shit! Look at yourself. What are doing?

        2. Is it time yet for NPC John?

          NPC John: printf (“random right wing talking point’)
          Response: Wait, that’s not right
          NPC John: printf (“YOU ARE STUPID”) || printf (“STOP CALLING ME RACIST”)

          1. Jeff,

            Don’t try using words like snowflakes or terms like NPC. You clearly don’t know what they mean and think they are just another way of saying “I don’t like your opinion”. It is not funny or clever when you do it. It is just painfully embarassing.

          2. I didn’t realize he got to you that much.

            1. He slaughtered him. Three times today. On dfferent pages.

              1. Just like Dumbfuck Hihnsano’s cancer slaughtered his brain cells.

  28. The U.S. abortion rate has hit another record low, according to the latest data. The numbers cover 2015 and were released last week.

    Women and children hardest hit.

    You just know the Left is spinning this as “lack of access to women’s healthcare”, but given the demographics of low-cost abortion clients, every child PP doesn’t abort is another future Democrat voter. Why are the Dems such avid proponents of the idea that colored people People Of Color shouldn’t reproduce?

    1. You just know the Left is spinning this as “lack of access to women’s healthcare”

      That’s what the crazy assholes are doing when they defund Planned Parenthood. ALL their fevenuie is for … family planning! .. and Medicaid,

      In many inner-cities, PP is the ONLY health care provider for Medicaid. Doctors cannot afford to take Medicaid unless there are enough to privately insured to overbill. PP can do it because the abortions pay the overhead, thus subsidizing the Medicaid.

      Low-information voters have been brainwashed to believe federal dollars subsidize abortions, because …. (laughing hysterically) … MONEY IS FUNGIBLE! Yes it is. But NEVER do money LOSERS subsidize money- MAKERS!!!

      So … they want to punish planned parenthood for performing a constitutionally protected procedure ,.. which will not stop a single abortion … and remove the only health care provider for millions of inner-city women…. then again, they’re mostly blacks. Even Christ would be ashamed.

  29. “On Sunday, Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) agents used teargas on Central American migrants seeking asylum in the United States?a toxic cloud that wafted far past the minority of rioters and into a peaceful protest that included young children.”

    A minority of rioters?

    Here’s what the Wall Street Journal is reporting:

    Customs and Border Protection officials temporarily closed a busy border crossing and used tear gas to disperse hundreds of Central American migrants in the Mexican city of Tijuana who made a rush for the border fence. Women and children were among those affected by the use of tear gas, migrants said.

    The border patrol said it deployed the gas after several of its agents were hit by projectiles.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/tr…..543245603?

    I hope the criminals who attacked our border patrol agents can be identified, prosecuted, serve an appropriate sentence in a federal prison for assault in the U.S., and are deported back to their countries(s) of origin.

    Some 500 rioters tried to rush across the border, our border patrol used nonlethal measures to turn them back after being attacked with projectiles, but we’re talking about a “minority” of rioters for some reason?

    WTF?

    1. How are you a “rioter” if you were not throwing rocks and you know rioting? All of the rioters were rioting or else they would not have been rioters. The writing in reason is just amazing sometimes.

      1. Why should honest rioters have to pay the price for what a minority of rioters are doing?!

        Is that what we’re supposed to think?

        The “minority of rioters” comment is out there in left field somewhere. It’s just bluster.

        If Trump said something like that, she’d be on him like a wet blanket.

      2. What’s an honest rioter supposed to do if he doesn’t want to get tear-gassed?

    2. WTF?

      ANOTHER crazy fuckup!!

      A minority of rioters?

      Jam your head up your ass and continue.

      Here’s what the Wall Street Journal is reporting:
      … and used tear gas to disperse hundreds of Central American migrants in the Mexican city of Tijuana who made a rush for the border fence

      Hundreds is a minority of FIVE THOUSAND

      n a federal prison for assault in the U.S.

      Tijuana is in Mexico!
      Why would you put them in a costly prison INSTEAD OF DENYING THEM ENTRY????

  30. Guy says he was profiled in a department store on Sunday.

    He says he went up to the perfume counter and said he wanted to buy some perfume for his girlfriend for Christmas. The lady behind the counter asked him, “How much do you have to spend”?

    End of story.

    I hear people say things these days, and it makes me think the whole world has gone mad. I’m starting to dread the future. Somebody needs to invent the warp drive and quick. Where’s the Elon Musk of warp drives?

    1. Where’s the Elon Musk of warp drives?

      Putting out a battery fire.

      1. I’ve heard it argued in that past that time travel is impossible because if it were possible, people from the future would have already populated things like the crucifixion or crowded the Battle of Gettysburg.

        Maybe that’s another way out, though, and if it is, maybe they just don’t want us to know. Maybe escaping by time travel is so great, they don’t want anybody else to know about it–so we don’t all flood in and ruin it for them.

        A world where people claim discrimination because a salesperson asks them how much they have to spend, though–I want a better place. I remember a better place. Jesus, the Democrats who retake the White House someday will Bernie Sanders and company look like moderates.

        How much is a Swiss or Kiwi passport?

    2. Guy says he was profiled in a department store on Sunday.

      He says he went up to the perfume counter and said he wanted to buy some perfume for his girlfriend for Christmas. The lady behind the counter asked him, “How much do you have to spend”?

      Same guy, next week: They are profiling me, Nobody will come up and help me when I am trying to make a purchase!

  31. So just exactly what are we supposed to do at the border with the arrival of this migrant parade?

    Do we secure it, regardless of any manufactured “refugee crisis” and make any and every one go through application for asylum [for which they may well be rejected], and thus control the entry?

    Or should be take pity on the poor refugees and just let them in, all the while ignoring the inevitable outcome of thousands of subsequent columns proceeding from every point of the globe that represents what has been called a hole of shit?

    1. Moral hazards exist in every realm of human endevor except immigration according to reason.

    2. Trump’s rumored agreement with the incoming Mexican president makes a ton of sense because it solves the fundamental problem with our asylum process–it takes years to get an asylum claim adjudicated through the courts, and so the 70% of people claiming asylum get in without even having their claim validated by the courts.

      Once they get in, many never bother showing up for their court date. They just become illegal aliens unless they’re caught and deported.

      Trump’s agreement with the incoming president would have asylum seekers coming in through our border with Mexico remain in Mexico until their asylum hearing. That would do two things:

      1) It makes it so that people don’t just get in for claiming asylum without their claim being validated by the courts.

      2) It would discourage illegals and bogus asylum seekers from coming to the U.S. by way of Mexico–something neither the U.S. nor Mexico wants.

      1. Trump’s rumored agreement with the incoming Mexican president

        That was almost immediately denied as another lie by Mexico (like the N Korean agreement that never was)

        1. Fuck off Hihn

          1. Why do you hate facts that are “”inconvenient” to your gang?
            Why are you so authoritarian?
            Who’s Hihn?

            1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano pretends I don’t own him like Kunta Kinte.

              1. Right-wing authoritarian says he’s a slaveholder, and apparently proud if.
                Typical.

                1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano admits he got owned like Kunta Kinte.

      2. And now that the pressure is on Mexico, that might actually work/ get them to cooperate.

        And if they stay in Mexico, they do not have any grounds to claim rights or legal representation here.

        And no one really wants to live in Mexico any way; if this is effectively enforced it may serve to discourage persons from doing what has tended to work for them up to now.

        Interesting possible outcome to this assault of the migrants. Of course there is still the old tried and often true way, of just finding a place to cross and not get caught. Will this eventually take a wall?

      3. Once they get in, many never bother showing up for their court date. They just become illegal aliens unless they’re caught and deported.

        And of course, it’s the same sob story–“There’s violence and gangs, we aren’t safe!” Shit, by that logic, Canada should be obligated take in the entire south side of Chicago.

  32. If anybody has a link to the ‘trophy pic’ of the drug warriors, proudly posing next to the contraband cotton candy their elite training and experience enabled him to interdict, I would love to see it.
    How could several deputies all be so incompetent as to lock up grandma for months over what was so obviously what she said it was?
    And we’re supposed to trust these retards to make split second, life or death decisions?

  33. Wait, people were rioting to get IN to the US?

    1. It’s such a stark contrast when you’re driving down I-15 through San Ysidro (San Diego being wealthy as fuck) and the hills of Tijuana rise up against the sky–covered in what look like shacks to us.

      Why should people across an arbitrary divide be so poor? Why isn’t the land on the other side of the border just as expensive as our own?

      A lot of it has to do with our government being better than theirs at its most libertarian function–which is to protect our rights, property and otherwise. I suppose it’s ironic if the people of Mexico despise Trump, but they wouldn’t have so many problems if their government were as good as ours is at protecting their rights.

      1. Relevance none.

        1. Just like most of Dumbfuck Hihnsano’s posts.

          1. How is it relevant?

            1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano burps irrelevancies, whines about irrelevance.

              1. Cowardly evasion.

                1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano whines about evasion while desperately evading.

                  1. How is it relevant?

                    1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano burps irrelevancies, whines about irrelevance.

  34. Likely the first Trump diversion from GM’s 15% layoffs, 5 plant closings, shifting production to Mexico and China, and slashing new capital investments.

    1. as goes GM so goes 1975?

      1. Isn’t that Hihn?

        I think you’re talking to Hihn.

        It’s like walking around with your fly open. If I ever do that, I want somebody to tell me.

        If I’m talking to Hihn, likewise. Nobody wants to walk around with their fly open, and nobody really wants to talk to Hihn.

        1. like once a year I can’t resist.

          1. The Temptation of Trolls

            1. Trolls post meaningless bullshit like you did, to initiate aggression by promoting their holy cause, or by attacking non-followers of their cult.

              Posting a factual news story is not trolling. But if it makes you “feel like a nut man …” go for it, Dude.

              1. Nice trolling.

              2. Mr. Hihn, if I ask nicely (and not say anything about you molesting your fellow nursing home patients), will you add this sock to your enemies list?

                1. If you think that’s asking Hihn nicety, then you’re as psycho as all the other cyber-bullies of your ilk.
                  You Trumptards have already thrown over a dozen hissy fits over … a news story.
                  Trump’s base in action. The precious snowflakes were triggered in their safe zone.

                  It’s not just Berkeley students shouting down mere disagreement.
                  Left – Right = Zero/

                  1. What the hell are you talking about Hihn?

                    Regarding me being a part of Trump’s base, please see if you can find a single post I ever made that could be construed as being even slightly favorable to the Orange One. You’re just making stuff up. Which would be pretty much par for the course for Reason’s Grand Elected Dumbfuck.

                    Sneer.

                    1. At least you’re not threatening ass-rape like you used to. So there’s that.

                    2. At least you’re not threatening ass-rape like you used to. So there’s that.

                      We already knew you’re a psycho.

                    3. If you think that’s asking Hihn nicety, then you’re as psycho as all the other cyber-bullies of your ilk.

                      What the hell are you talking about Hihn?

                      “If you thought that was asking Hihn nicely. then you’re as psycho as the other cyber-bullies of your ilk.”

                      Which you’ve just confirmed.

                  2. Dumbfuck Hihnsano’s IQ = Zero

          2. like once a year I can’t resist.

            Spouting mindless gibberish like this?`

            as goes GM so goes 1975?

            WTF??

            Nolan should have mentioned the diversions and typical childishness from Trumptards.

            1. your day decided by how well/poorly GM does?

              1. Follows total gibberish with gross stupidity.
                Sneers at the thousands of workers losing their jobs.
                Trumptards scurry like cockroaches.

                1. One more ‘cute’ Hihn sock.
                  Fuck off, Hihn.

            2. Dumbfuck Hihsano citing his own sockpuppets.

              1. Really? Only dumbfucks refer to another comment in the discussion … in a discussion forum?
                Who knew?

                1. Yes, when it’s obviously your sockpuppet, you are a dumbfuck for referring to it, as you say.

                  1. But you’re not a dumbfuck for swallowing tribal bullshit?

                    1. Since I haven’t done that, your question is moot.

                      And you are still a dumbfuck.

                    2. You swallowed the mob’s claim that absolutely everyone who opposes Trump can only be one person, named Hihn.

                      Punk

                    3. Wrong, dummy. He’s merely pointing out that you can never contain all of your… “colorful”… character tics, so it’s pretty easy to tell which socks are yours.

                    4. Dumbfuck Hihnsano admits he’s a dumbfuck.

                    5. As 12-year-old boys they compared dicks to feel manly.
                      As “adults” they compete to see who can launch the most vicious zingers.
                      Instead of comparing duicks, they now compare pricks.

                    6. Dumbfuck Hihnsano admits he has the emotional development of a 12-year-old boy.

                    7. Literacy challenged. (sneer)

                    8. Dumbfuck Hihnsano admits he can’t read. (chortle)

        2. Yes, he keeps popping up with varying nome de guerre; but after just a bit of pillory and you soon find out that a Hihn is a Hihn, by any other name.

          1. nom de guerre; we could use an auto correct that translates now and then

            1. “David Nolan” is a re-tread, but “Trump diversion” was a tell.

              1. Because NOBODY has ever noticed that Trump throws a massive diversion every time he must divert from a negative news report … if one follows only Fox, Infowars and Breitbart. (smirk)

                It is sad that Nolan is one of only three libertarians commenting on a libertarian website (if this latest hissy fit is accurate)

                1. What’s really sad is Dumbfuck Hihnsano citing his own sockpuppets like the prissy little bitch that he is.

        3. Yes, it Hihn in one of his many socks. as if his idiocy won’t be recognized,

    2. The Monday closure of GM’s plant in Oshawa, Ontario, was confirmed late Sunday by an official familiar with the decision. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk publicly ahead of the announcement.

      They are closing plants in Canada you psycotic half wit. And Gm’s problems have nothing to do with Trump

      Too many GM factories are devoted to making slow-selling cars and the company can no longer afford to keep them all operating without making some tough decisions. But the political atmosphere might limit realistic choices for the Detroit automaker.

      Industry analysts are already plotting out possible targets for GM, including its sprawling Lordstown plant in northeastern Ohio. The car produced there is also is built in Mexico. The once-bustling factory already has lost two of its three shifts and 3,000 union jobs since the beginning of last year.

      http://fox17online.com/2018/11…..beginning/

      1. They are closing plants in Canada you psycotic half wit

        You mentioned one, which is totally irrelevant, and makes you the psychotic

        And Gm’s problems have nothing to do with Trump

        Who said they did?

        Industry analysts are already plotting out possible targets for GM, including its sprawling Lordstown plant in northeastern Ohio

        Lordstown has been announced. Try to keep up
        Ohio is not in Canada.

        1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano’s having another bitchfit.

        2. There he goes…how many socks does this make?

          1. Trumptards get nasty, when they’ve been crushed on the topic.
            Then they bellow they were not crushed … on a topic they’re still too chicken-shit to address.
            As the adults in the room just smile.

            1. it’s true, I am smiling at how silly you look by admitting you have to use sockpuppets.

              1. How did I admit such as thing. Be specific, goober. Show us how stupid you people are.
                (smirk)

                (as the adults in the room smile)

                1. How did you admit you needed sockpuppets?

                  By obviously using then of course. Even moreso by denying it.

                  If your argument had any merit you wouldn’t need to play silly games like lying about using sockpuppets to agree with yourself.

                  1. CAUGHT RED-HANDED … RAZZLED CALLED OUT AS A PSYCHO LIAR …. CHALLENGED … FAILS! … WITH AN EVEN CRAZIER PSYCHO LIE!!

                    Emphasis added for the other retards here.

                    I am smiling at how silly you look by admitting you have to use sockpuppets.

                    How did I admit such as thing. Be specific, goober.

                    How did you admit you needed sockpuppets? By obviously using then of course. Even moreso by denying it.

                    “Of course” are the craziest words there!!

                    Show us how stupid you people are.
                    (smirk)

                    THAT stupid!!!

                    For goobers: In his crazed mind …. If I say he’s a total psycho … if he denies it … then he has admitted it

                    War is Peace/Freedom is Slavery/Ignorance is Strength

                    1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano bitch-fitting his stupidity again.

            2. As the adults in the room just smile.

              All the adults in your room just smile because they’re wacked out of their minds on anti-psychotics!

  35. BTW, in China, Buick is considered a luxury car, on a par with BMW, but I’m sure they’re not built in union factories in the US and shipped to China.

    1. Umm, Buicks are already imported from China. Compacts and SUVs.
      What does that have to so with shipping many more jobs to China?
      Why did you ignore the jobs shifted to Mexico?
      Why did you prove Nolan correct?

      1. Fuck off, Hihn.

        1. You’ve already fucked UP ….. (sneer)

          Who’s Hihn, delusional one?

          1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano’s still ass-mad that I owned him like Kunta Kinte on gun control.

            1. Come on; the bold faced type [yelling], the random [and usually irrelevant] references, mirroring insults; classic Hihn. You’ve only left out left + right = 0.

              1. It’s Left Right = Zero
                A libertarian slogan for 50 years.
                Commonly used by those who have been libertarian for at least 30 years.
                That pisses off the authoritarian mentality on both obsolete sides. And uninformed goobers.

                1. “It’s Left – Right = Zero”

                  And it’s stupid and wrong, which is why we laugh at you for using it Hihn.

                  1. (snort)
                    “That pisses off the authoritarian mentality on both obsolete sides. And uninformed goobers”

                    THIS goober is PISSED that he got called out for fucking up what the words are.

                    1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano having another bitchfit.

                2. John Galt is back|11.26.18 @ 2:12PM|#
                  “It’s Left – Right = Zero”

                  Fuck off, Hihn

                  1. No hes correct as confirmed by the heller decision.

  36. I can’t believe Reason is printing this trash and posting a left-wing propaganda photo. Why not post a photo of the degenerates throwing bottles and rocks at the border patrol? If I had my kids anywhere near a mass of criminals, and we got caught in a cloud of tear gas, shame on me for putting my family at risk.

    1. It’s all a vast conspiracy. But you seem to have missed much of the report.

      shame on me for putting my family at risk.

      Umm, they’re escaping something much worse, so the trash is yours. Would you have joined FDR in refusing thousands of Jews escaping Nazi Germany, thus forcing them back to the gas ovens?

      1. Umm, they’re escaping something much worse

        Dumbfuck Hihnsano admits Central Americans make their countries worse.

        1. Dumfuck goober confuses dictators with their victims.
          They get SO pissed when their bullshit is exposed.

          1. “Dumfuck”

            Dumbfuck Hihn can’t even spell “dumbfuck.”. What a dumbfuck!

            1. Damn. He should be able to spell it! After all, he says he was an officially elected dumbfuck. (Can’t link to his statement anymore b/c Reason scrubbed all his ravings from the site.)

          2. Dumbfuck Hihnsano still assmad that no one buys his bullshit.

  37. I generally don’t mind calling people what they want to be called.

    If someone wants to call himself Charlamagne tha God, well, I guess that’s OK. And if they can call themselves Charlamagne, they can call themselves Charlene.

    But the idea that referring to Charlamagne that God by his birth name – Lenard Larry McKelvey according to Wikipedia – should get you banned from Twitter, says enough about Twitter’s Orwellian policies that I don’t want to go near them.

    I mean, “deadnaming” sounds like something out of that Newspeak style manual in “1984.”

    1. Is “intentional cyber-bullying” also Newspeak?
      Did you just say that War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and commit Ignorance is Strength?

      1. No, he said you’re a pantywaist who bitches about bullying while bullying people with your sockpuppets.

        1. He didn’t say a single word about me, chump …. which makes you the bully … and a psycho

          1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano whines about bullying because he’s a prissy little bitch.

            1. Like those fucking Jews complained about the gas ovens?

              1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano compares himself to a Holocaust victim again.

                1. Hahahaha. It is a Hihnfection!

      2. John Galt is back|11.26.18 @ 2:18PM|#
        “Is “intentional cyber-bullying” also Newspeak?’

        No, it’s just buillshit whining by pathetic losers, loser.
        Fuck off, Hihn.

  38. If you swapped the populations of Mexico and
    Japan, in a few years, Mexico would have high speed rail and Japan would have donkeys.
    It isn’t magic dirt upon which a country sits that makes countries successful or prosperous, it’s people.
    The more third-worlders you let in, the more third-worldly your country becomes.
    Close the border and throw away the key.

    1. How do you explain America becoming the richest and most advanced country on earth during a long-term period of relatively unchecked immigration?

      1. Awesome white people leading the charge.

        1. PROUD to be a racist!!
          DEFENDS slavery!!!!
          (vomit)

          1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano burps more stupidity.

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